[Gimp-user] Changes in select and fill tools in 2.4, and a few new problems
In GIMP 2.2, If I use a selection tool (such as rectangle, elipse, freehand, etc) then once the selection is made and I release the mouse button, I can click and drag the contents of that selected area. However this behaviour has changed in 2.4 and trying to drag the selection now just moves the selection outline rather than the contents itself (previously done by holding Alt down while dragging). Is there any way to restore the old behaviour or do I now have to hold down keys to drag contents? Also, if I select an area and then choose the fill tool, 2.4 only fills that area if I click directly on it while previous versions would let me click anywhere on the entire layer to make the fill. Can this behavior anso be restored (it still works as expected when drawing gradients in selections)? It makes matters worse when you select an area with low alpha values and the marchin ants outline either doesn't appear or only covers tiny areas. And on the subject of filling, am I right in percieving filling to be notably slower than it was in 2.2? Another annoyance is that I no longer seem able to hold the Ctrl key down while clicking on a palet colour to set the background colour. Can this also be restored? Additionally, I've encountered an annoyance that has appeared in 2.4. When saving an image as a JPG, the first dialogue to pop up is the large one asking for the file name and path. Then, the next one to appear is the one with the JPEG settings, which of course has an option to preview the image before saving. However, the large save dialogue is now always above the window containing the image so you can't actually see the image unless you drag the save dialogue off of the screen. The JPEG settings window still goes behind the image window, it's only the 'save' dialogue that won't go below it. Can this be fixed? Oh, I also notice that when I use the quick eye dropper in the colour dock, the colour it sets is wrong. It's lighter than the actual colour I clicked on. The main eye dropper tool sets the colour correctly so is this a bug? This is all in GIMP 2.4.2 on Windows XP so I'm not sure if that last issue applies to any other platforms. _ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/connect.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_newways_112007 ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Changes in select and fill tools in 2.4, and a few new problems
On Nov 26, 2007 7:48 PM, Shin Diggar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In GIMP 2.2, If I use a selection tool (such as rectangle, elipse, freehand, etc) then once the selection is made and I release the mouse button, I can click and drag the contents of that selected area. However this behaviour has changed in 2.4 and trying to drag the selection now just moves the selection outline rather than the contents itself (previously done by holding Alt down while dragging). Is there any way to restore the old behaviour or do I now have to hold down keys to drag contents? Ctrl-Alt-Drag to cut the selection and drag it. Alt-Shift-Drag to copy the selection and drag it. The rectangle select and ellipse select tools are not cooperative with these, though. Also, if I select an area and then choose the fill tool, 2.4 only fills that area if I click directly on it while previous versions would let me click anywhere on the entire layer to make the fill. Can this behavior anso be restored (it still works as expected when drawing gradients in selections)? Shift+Click instead, or set the 'fill entire selection' radiobutton in the tool options. It makes matters worse when you select an area with low alpha values and the marchin ants outline either doesn't appear or only covers tiny areas. And on the subject of filling, am I right in percieving filling to be notably slower than it was in 2.2? Another annoyance is that I no longer seem able to hold the Ctrl key down while clicking on a palet colour to set the background colour. Can this also be restored? You are trying to use the new Palette color selector instead of the Palette editor. The palette editor retains that functionality; the Palette color selector never had it (I agree that it should.) Additionally, I've encountered an annoyance that has appeared in 2.4. When saving an image as a JPG, the first dialogue to pop up is the large one asking for the file name and path. Then, the next one to appear is the one with the JPEG settings, which of course has an option to preview the image before saving. However, the large save dialogue is now always above the window containing the image so you can't actually see the image unless you drag the save dialogue off of the screen. The JPEG settings window still goes behind the image window, it's only the 'save' dialogue that won't go below it. Can this be fixed? Oh, I also notice that when I use the quick eye dropper in the colour dock, the colour it sets is wrong. It's lighter than the actual colour I clicked on. The main eye dropper tool sets the colour correctly so is this a bug? They both set the color correctly. The difference is the difference between the displayed color (after color adjustment), and the image color before adjustment. Since the colordock eyedropper picks colors from the screen, it returns the color that is actually displayed, while the eyedropper tool/ ctrl+click with a paint tool returns the color that is stored in the image. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Changes in select and fill tools in 2.4, and a few new problems
The alt+shift+drag and ctrl-alt-drag doesn't work for me (gimp 2.4.2 on linux). I didn't find any way to change the mouse shortcuts but maybe I have just not searched enough, if anybody could point me to a right direction I'd be grateful. cheers On 11/26/07, David Gowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 26, 2007 7:48 PM, Shin Diggar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In GIMP 2.2, If I use a selection tool (such as rectangle, elipse, freehand, etc) then once the selection is made and I release the mouse button, I can click and drag the contents of that selected area. However this behaviour has changed in 2.4 and trying to drag the selection now just moves the selection outline rather than the contents itself (previously done by holding Alt down while dragging). Is there any way to restore the old behaviour or do I now have to hold down keys to drag contents? Ctrl-Alt-Drag to cut the selection and drag it. Alt-Shift-Drag to copy the selection and drag it. The rectangle select and ellipse select tools are not cooperative with these, though. Also, if I select an area and then choose the fill tool, 2.4 only fills that area if I click directly on it while previous versions would let me click anywhere on the entire layer to make the fill. Can this behavior anso be restored (it still works as expected when drawing gradients in selections)? Shift+Click instead, or set the 'fill entire selection' radiobutton in the tool options. It makes matters worse when you select an area with low alpha values and the marchin ants outline either doesn't appear or only covers tiny areas. And on the subject of filling, am I right in percieving filling to be notably slower than it was in 2.2? Another annoyance is that I no longer seem able to hold the Ctrl key down while clicking on a palet colour to set the background colour. Can this also be restored? You are trying to use the new Palette color selector instead of the Palette editor. The palette editor retains that functionality; the Palette color selector never had it (I agree that it should.) Additionally, I've encountered an annoyance that has appeared in 2.4. When saving an image as a JPG, the first dialogue to pop up is the large one asking for the file name and path. Then, the next one to appear is the one with the JPEG settings, which of course has an option to preview the image before saving. However, the large save dialogue is now always above the window containing the image so you can't actually see the image unless you drag the save dialogue off of the screen. The JPEG settings window still goes behind the image window, it's only the 'save' dialogue that won't go below it. Can this be fixed? Oh, I also notice that when I use the quick eye dropper in the colour dock, the colour it sets is wrong. It's lighter than the actual colour I clicked on. The main eye dropper tool sets the colour correctly so is this a bug? They both set the color correctly. The difference is the difference between the displayed color (after color adjustment), and the image color before adjustment. Since the colordock eyedropper picks colors from the screen, it returns the color that is actually displayed, while the eyedropper tool/ ctrl+click with a paint tool returns the color that is stored in the image. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user -- LEGENY Jozef ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Changes in select and fill tools in 2.4, and a few new problems
Hi, On Mon, 2007-11-26 at 21:41 +1030, David Gowers wrote: Ctrl-Alt-Drag to cut the selection and drag it. Alt-Shift-Drag to copy the selection and drag it. The rectangle select and ellipse select tools are not cooperative with these, though. They are. After you committed the selection by pressing Enter. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Changes in select and fill tools in 2.4, and a few new problems
On Nov 27, 2007 6:31 AM, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Mon, 2007-11-26 at 21:41 +1030, David Gowers wrote: Ctrl-Alt-Drag to cut the selection and drag it. Alt-Shift-Drag to copy the selection and drag it. The rectangle select and ellipse select tools are not cooperative with these, though. They are. After you committed the selection by pressing Enter. They are not. I specifically tried that before my first reply, and it made no difference. I had to switch to a different selection tool before they would work. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Changes in select and fill tools in 2.4, and a few new problems
David Gowers wrote: They are. After you committed the selection by pressing Enter. They are not. I specifically tried that before my first reply, and it made no difference. I had to switch to a different selection tool before they would work. Works fine for me. What is different on your system? Michael -- GIMP http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Changes in select and fill tools in 2.4, and a few new problems
Hi, On Tue, 2007-11-27 at 09:33 +1030, David Gowers wrote: They are. After you committed the selection by pressing Enter. They are not. I specifically tried that before my first reply, and it made no difference. I had to switch to a different selection tool before they would work. Definitely works for me. For 2.6 we hope to eliminate the need to confirm the selection before it can be floated. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Changes in select and fill tools in 2.4, and a few new problems
Hi Sven, On Nov 27, 2007 9:40 AM, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Tue, 2007-11-27 at 09:33 +1030, David Gowers wrote: They are. After you committed the selection by pressing Enter. They are not. I specifically tried that before my first reply, and it made no difference. I had to switch to a different selection tool before they would work. Definitely works for me. Actually, now I try it again on a different picture, it works for me too. Looks like I was trying to cut out an empty part earlier. For 2.6 we hope to eliminate the need to confirm the selection before it can be floated. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
