Re: [Gimp-user] How is 16 bit GIMP doing?
On Monday 21 June 2010 14:11:58 Martin Nordholts wrote: On 06/21/2010 08:00 PM, John Culleton wrote: And what is the priority/schedule for CMYK? We know we need CMYK sooner or later, but higher bit depths and non-destructiveness is much more important. So first good support for the latter, then we can begin looking into proper support for the former IMO. Maybe in a stable version 6-8 years from now with the current pace of development. / Martin Hey, I may not live that long :). Krita has had CMYK for years. But of course Krita lacks the full feature set of Gimp. Maybe some of that Krita code could be lifted for Gimp, just as InDesign lifted important features from TeX. -- John Culleton Wexford Press Create Book Covers with Scribus Printable E-book 38 pages $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How is 16 bit GIMP doing?
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 5:02 PM, John Culleton wrote: Hey, I may not live that long :). Krita has had CMYK for years. But of course Krita lacks the full feature set of Gimp. Maybe some of that Krita code could be lifted for Gimp, just as InDesign lifted important features from TeX. The debate on what ID lifted and what it didn't will never stop, eh? There seems to be a recently growing trend to solve GIMP's bottlenecks by introducing external plug-ins that do some fancy stuff and run in 16bpc mode, e.g.: http://www.mm-log.com/blog/2010-07-09/adaptive-saturation-curve-labcurves You might like getting Mike to code quick patch-ups, no? Of course, mating the goat and the wilber would be preferable. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How is 16 bit GIMP doing?
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Ken Warner wrote: Is it still being worked on? If so, is there any word on availability? When it's ready is the best you can get :) Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How is 16 bit GIMP doing?
On 06/21/2010 05:31 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Ken Warner wrote: Is it still being worked on? If so, is there any word on availability? When it's ready is the best you can get :) There is more to say. Right now the top priority is to get GIMP 2.8 released. The current goal is late 2010. GIMP 2.8 does not have support for high bit depths. Once GIMP 2.8 is out, we will start phasing out the legacy 8-bit-per-channel code and replace it with GEGL. In other words, we will start for real to introduce support for high bit depths in GIMP. There is no schedule of this work, so a date cannot be given. It is reasonable though to expect this work to go on for say 2-4 years. Regards, Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Automatic tab style and removed tab title bar ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How is 16 bit GIMP doing?
On Monday 21 June 2010 12:49:00 Martin Nordholts wrote: On 06/21/2010 05:31 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Ken Warner wrote: Is it still being worked on? If so, is there any word on availability? When it's ready is the best you can get :) There is more to say. Right now the top priority is to get GIMP 2.8 released. The current goal is late 2010. GIMP 2.8 does not have support for high bit depths. Once GIMP 2.8 is out, we will start phasing out the legacy 8-bit-per-channel code and replace it with GEGL. In other words, we will start for real to introduce support for high bit depths in GIMP. There is no schedule of this work, so a date cannot be given. It is reasonable though to expect this work to go on for say 2-4 years. Regards, Martin And what is the priority/schedule for CMYK? -- John Culleton Wexford Press Create Book Covers with Scribus Printable E-book 38 pages $5.95 http://www.scribd.com/doc/24676863/ http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How is 16 bit GIMP doing?
On 06/21/2010 08:00 PM, John Culleton wrote: And what is the priority/schedule for CMYK? We know we need CMYK sooner or later, but higher bit depths and non-destructiveness is much more important. So first good support for the latter, then we can begin looking into proper support for the former IMO. Maybe in a stable version 6-8 years from now with the current pace of development. / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Automatic tab style and removed tab title bar ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How is 16 bit GIMP doing?
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:00 PM, John Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com wrote: And what is the priority/schedule for CMYK? I think 2-4 years is more than enough for CMYK (hopefully). Meanwhile, give separate+ a go. It gets the job done, and very reliable. Latest version supports clipping paths, and saving to CMYK TIFF, JPEG, and PSD. I'm not sure about reading those files back into Gimp, but I think it was mentioned somewhere it can be done. I've never needed to do it myself, though, so you're on your own. I've given an overview of the color management in Gimp and part of it covers basic separate+ usage: http://www.brankovukelic.com/post/513356271/gimp-color-management-for-dtp -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How is 16 bit GIMP doing?
On 6/21/10, Branko Vukelic wrote: Meanwhile, give separate+ a go. Or CMYKTool Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How is 16 bit GIMP doing?
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On 6/21/10, Branko Vukelic wrote: Meanwhile, give separate+ a go. Or CMYKTool Prokudine, Veering a bit OT now, I've tried to use CMYKTool, and got an impression it was a bit redundant for separate+ users. Does it have anything to add (or do anything differently)? -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How is 16 bit GIMP doing?
On 6/22/10, Branko Vukelic wrote: Meanwhile, give separate+ a go. Or CMYKTool Prokudine, Vukelic? :) Veering a bit OT now, I've tried to use CMYKTool, and got an impression it was a bit redundant for separate+ users. Does it have anything to add (or do anything differently)? Well, if you *have* used CMYKTool, you couldn't possibly fail to notice the big thing called live soft proof or the small thing called displaying per-channel ink density value for the point under mouse pointer (right below the big thing) :-) Or how CMYKTool allows creating CMYK files in a color-unmanaged way, which is also desirable in some cases (implemented by a request, in fact). I don't see how either of them make the other one redundant. Wise people use both, depending on what they are trying to achieve. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How is 16 bit GIMP doing?
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On 6/22/10, Branko Vukelic wrote: Meanwhile, give separate+ a go. Or CMYKTool Prokudine, Vukelic? :) Sure. I don't see how either of them make the other one redundant. Wise people use both, depending on what they are trying to achieve. I will take your advice to heart, oh wise one! :) -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
