Re: [Gimp-user] bewildered newbie query

[Partha Bagchi]

I presume you are asking me about "official build". Michael can tell
you more about it.

It's the build provided by GIMP maintainers. If that build does not
include jp2 support, you'll have to ask Michael.

My builds obtained from my website have jp2 support built in.

HTH,
Partha


On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Neal Weissman  wrote:
> what do you mean by 'official build' - i installed the gimp 2.8 on windows
> 10 from the official gimp site five days ago. although several reviews
> implied that 2.8 does have .jp2 capability i see no tangible manifestation
> of such.
>
>
> /s/ Neal Weissman
>
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Partha Bagchi  wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps.
>>
>> I assumed that the official build would have it built in as mine does.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Michael Schumacher 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On 10/03/2015 07:28 PM, Partha Bagchi wrote:
>> >
>> >> Of course GIMP can open jp2 files. Where did you hear that it cannot?
>> >
>> > It does that if JPEG-2000 support is compiled in. This is not
>> > necessarily so for all builds out there.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Regards,
>> > Michael
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Re: [Gimp-user] bewildered newbie query

[Neal Weissman]

what do you mean by 'official build' - i installed the gimp 2.8 on windows
10 from the official gimp site five days ago. although several reviews
implied that 2.8 does have .jp2 capability i see no tangible manifestation
of such.


/s/ Neal Weissman

On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Partha Bagchi  wrote:

> Perhaps.
>
> I assumed that the official build would have it built in as mine does.
>
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Michael Schumacher 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 10/03/2015 07:28 PM, Partha Bagchi wrote:
> >
> >> Of course GIMP can open jp2 files. Where did you hear that it cannot?
> >
> > It does that if JPEG-2000 support is compiled in. This is not
> > necessarily so for all builds out there.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Michael
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Re: [Gimp-user] bewildered newbie query

[Partha Bagchi]

Perhaps.

I assumed that the official build would have it built in as mine does.

On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Michael Schumacher  wrote:
>
>
> On 10/03/2015 07:28 PM, Partha Bagchi wrote:
>
>> Of course GIMP can open jp2 files. Where did you hear that it cannot?
>
> It does that if JPEG-2000 support is compiled in. This is not
> necessarily so for all builds out there.
>
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] bewildered newbie query

[Michael Schumacher]

On 10/03/2015 07:28 PM, Partha Bagchi wrote:

> Of course GIMP can open jp2 files. Where did you hear that it cannot?

It does that if JPEG-2000 support is compiled in. This is not
necessarily so for all builds out there.


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Re: [Gimp-user] bewildered newbie query

[Partha Bagchi]

Of course GIMP can open jp2 files. Where did you hear that it cannot?

On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Neal Weissman  wrote:
> i solicited the gimp forum because I thought that gimp might open the .jp2
> files, but we are indeed digressing from the purpose of this forum. my
> tablet does not have an external keyboard and the touchpad keyboard lacks
> many keys found on a physical keyboard - ESC is absent in particular. i
> also don't have a physical mouse. as you say, this discussion has
> progressed well beyond the purpose of this forum so i will make do with
> your helpful suggestion that i should not be using "slideshow." Thank you
> for your help. however, i will tell you that i have invoked 'add all' and i
> do see the content of the first few pages *only* - and only in full screen
> - by tapping the screen.
>
>
> /s/ Neal Weissman
>
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 2:31 AM, Bob Long  wrote:
>
>> Neal Weissman wrote on 03/10/15 15:00:
>>
>> > i've attached a .png screen capture; hopefully you can see it.
>> >
>> > you can see that the .gz unzipped to 517 .jp2 files. i can only reason
>> > to deal with these 517 sequential files as a slideshow .. can you think
>> > of another way?
>>
>> We are getting off topic here for a GIMP list, anyway...
>>
>> A slideshow does not seem to be the way to do it. There is no guarantee
>> that you will have finished reading the page before the next image appears.
>>
>> Simply open the first "page" (or the page you are up to) of the book as
>> a single image in Irfanview. Not as a slideshow. Then when you have read
>> the page there should be left/right arrows on a toolbar. Or, use
>> left/right arrows on the keyboard.
>>
>> Show us a screen shot when you open that first image.
>>
>> But I see you have selected the slideshow without automatic timed
>> advance, so it should work that way.
>>
>> Once you start the slideshow, do you actually see the content of the
>> "page"?
>>
>> Have you done "Add all" to select all the images for the slideshow?
>>
>> >  i can see no way to display a slide show other than 'fullscreen';
>> > fullscreen seems to be the only way that irfanview will display a
>> > slideshow. but fullscreen obliterates access to the the touchpad
>> > keyboard and the iv toolbar and obliterates access to almost everything:
>> > the only option that i can still control is 'shutdown' and 'restart'!
>> > ... nor do i have a mouse.
>>
>> Again, what device are you using? Is it some sort of tablet without
>> physical mouse or keyboard?
>>
>> > although i repeatedly opted for it, the toolbar does not contain the
>> > buttons for 'next page' and 'previous page' - even if i were able to
>> > access it.
>>
>> When you say you don't have a mouse, do you mean you don't see a mouse
>> pointer when in full screen? That's possible. Hitting the "ESC" key
>> should exit slideshow mode, I think.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Long
>>
>>
>> > /s/ Neal Weissman
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Bob Long > > > wrote:
>> >
>> > Neal Weissman wrote on 03/10/15 02:32:
>> >
>> > > irfanview is indeed lauded for being plenary but i haven't had
>> success
>> > > with it: irfanview's toolbar should as you say contain a “proceed
>> to the
>> > > successor page” button but i don't see it - i only see a “progress
>> to
>> > > the next *file* ” button. also, the toolbar appears only in one or
>> two
>> > > views - the default view is full screen which does present the
>> toolbar.
>> >
>> > I don't understand your distinction between successor "page" and
>> "file".
>> > You say your "book" consists of many images, one per page. As far as
>> > image editors/viewers are concerned, an image is a file (ignoring
>> > complications like layers).
>> >
>> >
>> > I've never known Irfanview to default to starting full screen, but
>> it is
>> > an option in the preferences, anyway.
>> >
>> > Even when you are in full screen, the left and right keyboard arrows
>> > navigate backwards/forwards to the next image in the directory.
>> >
>> > Attempting to read a book by individual images seems to be the root
>> > problem. Perhaps try converting them to something like an .epub
>> e-book
>> > format and then use an e-book reader. I've not ever done that from
>> > images, but there are converters out there. But even that will have
>> > difficulties, given the text will not be able to flow to suit screen
>> > size.
>> >
>> > > and iv is most unfriendly to touchpad keyboards. thus, iv has thus
>> far
>> > > been of no use to me although it was one of the first that i tried
>> -
>> > > that's why i'm still searching. (btw, many softwares - including
>> > > Windows! and Google's Gmail- are inconsiderate of touchpad
>> keyboards.)
>> >
>> > Can't help you there. What exactly is the device you are using?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Bob Long
>> >
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Re: [Gimp-user] Layers

[Olivier]

Thanks for your positive opinion! It's a pleasure.

Olivier

2015-10-03 16:14 GMT+02:00 Ross Martinek :

> I have found The Book of Gimp, by Olivier Lecarme and Karine Delvare to be
> a marvelous resource, well worth the money for a new GIMPer, especially if
> you are coming over from the dark side >}:^{D> (Adobe Photoshop).
>
> Ross
>
> On Oct 3, 2015, at 7:21 AM, Ofnuts wrote:
>
> > On 03/10/15 12:40, Martin Odile wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>
> >> I need to increase the sharpness in some of my photographs but I cannot
> find the "Value" function in the "layers" menu.
> >>
> >> Could you let me know where to find it.
> >>
> >> Thanks very much in advance.
> >
> > I wonder what makes you think there is a "Layer>Value" menu entry in
> Gimp. You must have been reading the wrong manual.
> >
> > To increase sharpness, see "Filters>Enhance>Sharpen" or the more evolved
> "Filter>Enhance>Unsharp mask".
> >
> > See
> http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-imaging-photos.html#gimp-using-photography-sharpness
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Re: [Gimp-user] Layers

[Ross Martinek]

I have found The Book of Gimp, by Olivier Lecarme and Karine Delvare to be a 
marvelous resource, well worth the money for a new GIMPer, especially if you 
are coming over from the dark side >}:^{D> (Adobe Photoshop).

Ross

On Oct 3, 2015, at 7:21 AM, Ofnuts wrote:

> On 03/10/15 12:40, Martin Odile wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>>  
>> I need to increase the sharpness in some of my photographs but I cannot find 
>> the "Value" function in the "layers" menu.
>> 
>> Could you let me know where to find it.
>> 
>> Thanks very much in advance.
> 
> I wonder what makes you think there is a "Layer>Value" menu entry in Gimp. 
> You must have been reading the wrong manual.
> 
> To increase sharpness, see "Filters>Enhance>Sharpen" or the more evolved 
> "Filter>Enhance>Unsharp mask".
> 
> See 
> http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-imaging-photos.html#gimp-using-photography-sharpness
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Re: [Gimp-user] bewildered newbie query

[Neal Weissman]

i solicited the gimp forum because I thought that gimp might open the .jp2
files, but we are indeed digressing from the purpose of this forum. my
tablet does not have an external keyboard and the touchpad keyboard lacks
many keys found on a physical keyboard - ESC is absent in particular. i
also don't have a physical mouse. as you say, this discussion has
progressed well beyond the purpose of this forum so i will make do with
your helpful suggestion that i should not be using "slideshow." Thank you
for your help. however, i will tell you that i have invoked 'add all' and i
do see the content of the first few pages *only* - and only in full screen
- by tapping the screen.


/s/ Neal Weissman

On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 2:31 AM, Bob Long  wrote:

> Neal Weissman wrote on 03/10/15 15:00:
>
> > i've attached a .png screen capture; hopefully you can see it.
> >
> > you can see that the .gz unzipped to 517 .jp2 files. i can only reason
> > to deal with these 517 sequential files as a slideshow .. can you think
> > of another way?
>
> We are getting off topic here for a GIMP list, anyway...
>
> A slideshow does not seem to be the way to do it. There is no guarantee
> that you will have finished reading the page before the next image appears.
>
> Simply open the first "page" (or the page you are up to) of the book as
> a single image in Irfanview. Not as a slideshow. Then when you have read
> the page there should be left/right arrows on a toolbar. Or, use
> left/right arrows on the keyboard.
>
> Show us a screen shot when you open that first image.
>
> But I see you have selected the slideshow without automatic timed
> advance, so it should work that way.
>
> Once you start the slideshow, do you actually see the content of the
> "page"?
>
> Have you done "Add all" to select all the images for the slideshow?
>
> >  i can see no way to display a slide show other than 'fullscreen';
> > fullscreen seems to be the only way that irfanview will display a
> > slideshow. but fullscreen obliterates access to the the touchpad
> > keyboard and the iv toolbar and obliterates access to almost everything:
> > the only option that i can still control is 'shutdown' and 'restart'!
> > ... nor do i have a mouse.
>
> Again, what device are you using? Is it some sort of tablet without
> physical mouse or keyboard?
>
> > although i repeatedly opted for it, the toolbar does not contain the
> > buttons for 'next page' and 'previous page' - even if i were able to
> > access it.
>
> When you say you don't have a mouse, do you mean you don't see a mouse
> pointer when in full screen? That's possible. Hitting the "ESC" key
> should exit slideshow mode, I think.
>
> --
> Bob Long
>
>
> > /s/ Neal Weissman
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Bob Long  > > wrote:
> >
> > Neal Weissman wrote on 03/10/15 02:32:
> >
> > > irfanview is indeed lauded for being plenary but i haven't had
> success
> > > with it: irfanview's toolbar should as you say contain a “proceed
> to the
> > > successor page” button but i don't see it - i only see a “progress
> to
> > > the next *file* ” button. also, the toolbar appears only in one or
> two
> > > views - the default view is full screen which does present the
> toolbar.
> >
> > I don't understand your distinction between successor "page" and
> "file".
> > You say your "book" consists of many images, one per page. As far as
> > image editors/viewers are concerned, an image is a file (ignoring
> > complications like layers).
> >
> >
> > I've never known Irfanview to default to starting full screen, but
> it is
> > an option in the preferences, anyway.
> >
> > Even when you are in full screen, the left and right keyboard arrows
> > navigate backwards/forwards to the next image in the directory.
> >
> > Attempting to read a book by individual images seems to be the root
> > problem. Perhaps try converting them to something like an .epub
> e-book
> > format and then use an e-book reader. I've not ever done that from
> > images, but there are converters out there. But even that will have
> > difficulties, given the text will not be able to flow to suit screen
> > size.
> >
> > > and iv is most unfriendly to touchpad keyboards. thus, iv has thus
> far
> > > been of no use to me although it was one of the first that i tried
> -
> > > that's why i'm still searching. (btw, many softwares - including
> > > Windows! and Google's Gmail- are inconsiderate of touchpad
> keyboards.)
> >
> > Can't help you there. What exactly is the device you are using?
> >
> > --
> > Bob Long
> >
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Re: [Gimp-user] bewildered newbie query

[Neal Weissman]

i've attached a .png screen capture; hopefully you can see it.

you can see that the .gz unzipped to 517 .jp2 files. i can only reason to
deal with these 517 sequential files as a slideshow .. can you think of
another way?
 i can see no way to display a slide show other than 'fullscreen';
fullscreen seems to be the only way that irfanview will display a
slideshow. but fullscreen obliterates access to the the touchpad keyboard
and the iv toolbar and obliterates access to almost everything: the only
option that i can still control is 'shutdown' and 'restart'! ... nor do i
have a mouse.
although i repeatedly opted for it, the toolbar does not contain the
buttons for 'next page' and 'previous page' - even if i were able to access
it.


/s/ Neal Weissman

On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Bob Long  wrote:

> Neal Weissman wrote on 03/10/15 02:32:
>
> > irfanview is indeed lauded for being plenary but i haven't had success
> > with it: irfanview's toolbar should as you say contain a “proceed to the
> > successor page” button but i don't see it - i only see a “progress to
> > the next *file* ” button. also, the toolbar appears only in one or two
> > views - the default view is full screen which does present the toolbar.
>
> I don't understand your distinction between successor "page" and "file".
> You say your "book" consists of many images, one per page. As far as
> image editors/viewers are concerned, an image is a file (ignoring
> complications like layers).


> I've never known Irfanview to default to starting full screen, but it is
> an option in the preferences, anyway.
>
> Even when you are in full screen, the left and right keyboard arrows
> navigate backwards/forwards to the next image in the directory.
>
> Attempting to read a book by individual images seems to be the root
> problem. Perhaps try converting them to something like an .epub e-book
> format and then use an e-book reader. I've not ever done that from
> images, but there are converters out there. But even that will have
> difficulties, given the text will not be able to flow to suit screen size.
>
> > and iv is most unfriendly to touchpad keyboards. thus, iv has thus far
> > been of no use to me although it was one of the first that i tried -
> > that's why i'm still searching. (btw, many softwares - including
> > Windows! and Google's Gmail- are inconsiderate of touchpad keyboards.)
>
> Can't help you there. What exactly is the device you are using?
>
> --
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Re: [Gimp-user] Layers

[Ofnuts]

On 03/10/15 12:40, Martin Odile wrote:

Hi,

  


I need to increase the sharpness in some of my photographs but I cannot find the "Value" 
function in the "layers" menu.

Could you let me know where to find it.

Thanks very much in advance.


I wonder what makes you think there is a "Layer>Value" menu entry in 
Gimp. You must have been reading the wrong manual.


To increase sharpness, see "Filters>Enhance>Sharpen" or the more evolved 
"Filter>Enhance>Unsharp mask".


See 
http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-imaging-photos.html#gimp-using-photography-sharpness

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[Gimp-user] Layers

[Martin Odile]

Hi,

 

I need to increase the sharpness in some of my photographs but I cannot find 
the "Value" function in the "layers" menu.


 

Could you let me know where to find it.


 

Thanks very much in advance.


 

Odile Martin

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Re: [Gimp-user] What happened to Gimp?

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi Belleo,

do you remember which version of GIMP you used on the previous systems you had?
The latest stable GIMP has been in version 2.8.x since 2.8.0 was released around
2012
- three years ago (see https://github.com/GNOME/gimp/commits/master/NEWS ), and
not too much changed in the UI there.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 17:09:55 +0200
Belleo  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> Sorry if this is a rant. I've been on the brink of pulling all my hairs out
> over the last couple weeks.
> 
> So I've been a heavy gimp user for years. And I have developed some amazing
> graphics with this software. Loved it, preached about it and swore by it.
> 
> However, I recently purchased the latest Macbook Pro, OS Yosemite, and I feel
> like my design world has been shattered.
> 
> The interface of the latest GIMP installed has been anything but pleasant. It
> looks and functions very clunky. Everything seems so much more complicated.
> For example, adding text has become a pain. There is a static box that hovers
> over the text as you type and it is so annoying. It is painfully difficult to
> move the text box around to your desired location, right now I have to drag
> the edges out to move the text box.
> 
> To top all of this off, all my exported images come out blurry and distorted.
> Is there a way I can get my old gimp back??? My livelihood depends on me
> creating beautiful graphics and I am not ready to fork over thousands of
> dollars for Adobe.
> 
> 



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