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Re: [Gimp-user] Contrast inadequate with tool descriptions

2016-09-24 Thread Judy Wilson


On 09/24/2016 06:46 PM, Jan Kandziora wrote:

Am 25.09.2016 um 01:05 schrieb Judy Wilson:

I love this list, have followed it for years, though most is way over my
head, I'm a 73 year old female GIMP lover!

I do a lot of photo editing, and like to change tools rapidly, and want
to learn the keyboard shortcuts. Right now when I mouse over a tool in
the tool box, the pop-up shortcut is white on gray and I can hardly read
it. Is there a way to change this?


Colors and size of the tools are controlled by the theme selected. You
can change the theme in Edit->Preferences->Theme.

If there isn't any theme but the default one, you have to install
additional themes. How to do that depends on the operating system of
your computer. Which one do you use?

Kind regards

Jan



Thanks, got what I need. Just changed something in Colors in my System 
Settings. Now I am happy! And thanks Jan, my husband is named Jan!


Judy
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Re: [Gimp-user] Contrast inadequate with tool descriptions

2016-09-24 Thread Jan Kandziora

Am 25.09.2016 um 01:05 schrieb Judy Wilson:
> I love this list, have followed it for years, though most is way over my
> head, I'm a 73 year old female GIMP lover!
> 
> I do a lot of photo editing, and like to change tools rapidly, and want
> to learn the keyboard shortcuts. Right now when I mouse over a tool in
> the tool box, the pop-up shortcut is white on gray and I can hardly read
> it. Is there a way to change this?
> 
Colors and size of the tools are controlled by the theme selected. You
can change the theme in Edit->Preferences->Theme.

If there isn't any theme but the default one, you have to install
additional themes. How to do that depends on the operating system of
your computer. Which one do you use?

Kind regards

Jan


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[Gimp-user] Contrast inadequate with tool descriptions

2016-09-24 Thread Judy Wilson

I love this list, have followed it for years, though most is way over my 
head, I'm a 73 year old female GIMP lover!


I do a lot of photo editing, and like to change tools rapidly, and want 
to learn the keyboard shortcuts. Right now when I mouse over a tool in 
the tool box, the pop-up shortcut is white on gray and I can hardly read 
it. Is there a way to change this?


Thanks from Judy in Belize!
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Re: [Gimp-user] Color mismatch when an image is printed

2016-09-24 Thread James Moe

On 09/23/2016 02:28 PM, Pat David wrote:
>   I'd search the online manual, except... There is no search function!
> Thus rendering the manual somewhat useless for finding specific topics.
> 
> http://imgur.com/a/mnhLn
> 
  Ah. Thanks.
  I had started at , followed the DOCS link to
, and then to .
No search function at that destination.
  The image shows the home page of . And, yay!, a
search option.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Most current version of GIMP

2016-09-24 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr

On 09/24/2016 15:19, Elle Stone wrote:
> On 09/24/2016 07:24 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
>> * FPC Music Ministry  [09-24-16 05:55]:
>>> In order to ensure I have the latest version of GIMP, should I
>>> uninstall previous versions before downloading and installing the
>>> most recent version?
>>>
>>> I currently have 2.8.4 on my computers.
> 
> Whether you need to uninstall previous versions probably depends on what
> operating system you are running. On Linux your package manager takes
> care of making sure there are no file clashes between the old and new
> versions.
> 
> On Windows, at least for Partha's builds (http://www.partha.com/,
> right-hand column notes - Partha has 2.8.14 available for 64-bit
> Windows), yes you should uninstall the old version (the portable version
> can be run without interfering with previous installations).
> 
> If you have a lot of custom settings in your configuration folder, you
> might want to make a backup of the config folder. People running GIMP on
> Windows would hopefully have more details.

I use Gimp for Windows (currently have Gimp installed on Win 8.1 x64 and
Win 10 x64) and just install over older versions. I've never had an
issue with this method (on any version of Windows I've used The GIMP on).

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>> returning this to you per your posted instructions although i find it
>> impossible to completely comply as i do not have possession of many of
>> the
>> copies.  if this was not your intention, you should post w/o the *stupid*
>> trailer, or stop using work related product for personal reasons.
>>
>>
> 
> Trailers such as the above do seem oddly out of place when posted to an
> open mailing list that's duplicated many times over on many servers.
> 
> But it's entirely possible that the OP uses GIMP at work and *for* work,
> so assumptions to the contrary aren't really warranted.
> 
> If someone else already answered the OP's original question, please
> excuse my two-cent's worth!

Perhaps, but it's still a ridiculous disclaimer, though.

> 
> Elle

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Re: [Gimp-user] Most current version of GIMP

2016-09-24 Thread Elle Stone


On 09/24/2016 07:24 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* FPC Music Ministry  [09-24-16 05:55]:

In order to ensure I have the latest version of GIMP, should I uninstall 
previous versions before downloading and installing the most recent version?

I currently have 2.8.4 on my computers.


Whether you need to uninstall previous versions probably depends on what 
operating system you are running. On Linux your package manager takes 
care of making sure there are no file clashes between the old and new 
versions.


On Windows, at least for Partha's builds (http://www.partha.com/, 
right-hand column notes - Partha has 2.8.14 available for 64-bit 
Windows), yes you should uninstall the old version (the portable version 
can be run without interfering with previous installations).


If you have a lot of custom settings in your configuration folder, you 
might want to make a backup of the config folder. People running GIMP on 
Windows would hopefully have more details.



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returning this to you per your posted instructions although i find it
impossible to completely comply as i do not have possession of many of the
copies.  if this was not your intention, you should post w/o the *stupid*
trailer, or stop using work related product for personal reasons.




Trailers such as the above do seem oddly out of place when posted to an 
open mailing list that's duplicated many times over on many servers.


But it's entirely possible that the OP uses GIMP at work and *for* work, 
so assumptions to the contrary aren't really warranted.


If someone else already answered the OP's original question, please 
excuse my two-cent's worth!


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Re: [Gimp-user] Color mismatch when an image is printed

2016-09-24 Thread Rick Strong

I wasn’t meaning a photograph printing store, I was referring to a printing 
shop that prints posters, flyers, books, etc. on paper. Like with a printing 
press. However, if what the man wants is photo prints printed by someone else, 
then yes, sRGB is most likely what he needs to send. 

In any and all cases, ask what they want and send them that. After you have 
calibrated your monitor, of course.

Rick S.

From: Pat David 
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 8:37 PM
To: Rick Strong ; James Moe ; gimp-user-list@gnome.org 
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Color mismatch when an image is printed

Don't send CMYK to a photo print shop unless they specifically ask for it. The 
majority of high end US print shops want sRGB for photo prints (not books or 
offset printing - in that case I'd let them do the conversion unless you know 
what you're doing). 

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 8:35 PM Rick Strong  wrote:

  I would start by buying a monitor colour calibration device like a SPYDER
  regardless of who is doing the printing, yourself at home or a print shop.
  Google SPYDER. It's simple to use, fast and accurate. There are others.

  If you are sending files out to a print shop send CMYK images in North
  America. The preference in Europe I think is LAB. Check with your printer.
  Try the US Sheetfed/un-coated profile at home or anything that matches your
  paper and gets you close to your calibrated monitor image.

  Rick S.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Error in opening psd files

2016-09-24 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine

24 сент. 2016 г. 0:37 пользователь "Steve Kinney" написал:

> The GIMP includes a filter that converts the visible image to CMYK
> layers, and the result can be exported as a CMYK TIFF file.

Only if one installs a 3rd party plugin called separate+.

Alex
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Re: [Gimp-user] Most current version of GIMP

2016-09-24 Thread Patrick Shanahan

* FPC Music Ministry  [09-24-16 05:55]:
> In order to ensure I have the latest version of GIMP, should I uninstall 
> previous versions before downloading and installing the most recent version?
> 
> I currently have 2.8.4 on my computers.
> 
> -
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> Director of Music & Organist:
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> 901 NE J Street, Bentonville, AR 72712, USA
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returning this to you per your posted instructions although i find it
impossible to completely comply as i do not have possession of many of the
copies.  if this was not your intention, you should post w/o the *stupid*
trailer, or stop using work related product for personal reasons.


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[Gimp-user] 2# Color Management and Photoshop (was: gimp-user-list Digest, Vol 60, Issue 25)

2016-09-24 Thread Klaus Gölker

Hello, I´ve missed one point: when printing, another setting in the dialog
Color Settings mentioned below may be of interest: in my German speaking
GIMP it´s "Farbanpassung der Drucksimulation", which is about Color Adaption
for Printing Simulation: here you can choose Saturation-Perception-Absolute
Colormetric-Relative Colormetric. The default Perception ist what I would
suggest at first, but you may try something else. If you do so, it may be
important to mark ~Printing Simulation in ~Working Mode (I´m not shure about
the expressions, first dropdown menu in the window Color Management).
Another point mentioned earlier is: if the monitor had not been calibrated
correctly, the color deviations may habe been written to the image. Using
menu Colors>Hue/Saturation: Hue might help, when preselectig the color range
you want to correct.
Regards

Klaus Goelker

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Betreff: AW: Color Management and Photoshop (was: gimp-user-list Digest, Vol
60, Issue 25)

Standard color profile for photos and images is none or sRGB. Photoshop
imports images from scanners and cameras, which usually produce images based
on that standard sRGB. As far as I can remember, even if you create an 24
Bit image in PS, sRGB is used when saving. Another standard is the Adobe
proprietary Adobe RGB, which is  a "broader", more colorful variety of the
standard RGB (sRGB) color profile, mostly used for printing. You can
download the Adobe RGB color profile for free from Adobes website (just do a
search for Adobe RGB in a searchengine), save it to disc and implement it in
GIMP: menu Edit>Preferences>Color Management.
If an image is in Adobe RGB, opening the image in GIMP results in a warning
message, asking whether you want to keep Adobe RGB or convert it to sRGB. 
You may try setting Adobe RGB as default in the menu mentioned, or just open
your image in Adobe RGB and print.
Regards

Klaus Goelker
E-Mail: klausgoel...@gmail.com
www: goelker.lima-city.de

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   2. Re:  Color mismatch when an image is printed (James Moe)
   3. Re:  Error in opening psd files (Steve Kinney)
   4. Re:  Error in opening psd files (Alexandre Prokoudine)
   5. Re:  Error in opening psd files (Partha Bagchi)

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 16:13:06 +
From: Pat David 
To: James Moe , gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Color mismatch when an image is printed
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

This is a complex problem wrapped in a short-ish email...

Is your monitor calibrated and profiled? Did you also generate a profile for
your printer? If not it's not going to be possible to accurately gauge or
anticipate what your prints will look like compared to what you see on your
monitor. :( On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 8:34 PM James Moe 
wrote:

> opensuse 42.1
> linux 4.1.31-30-default x86_64
> gimp 2.8.16
>
> Color profile: sRGB
> Printer Driver description: EPSON PictureMate PM 225 with driver Epson 
> PictureMate PM 225, Epson Inkjet Printer Driver (ESC/P-R) for Linux
>
> I have a Epson PM225 inkjet color printer.
>
> I have printed images previously with the printer and there was no 
> noticeable difference in color. The printer has been not used for 
> several months. There has likely been some GIMP updates during that time.
>
> Currently, when I print an image that has a blue sky, the printed 
> color has a strong green tint to it, not really close to the displayed 
> blue sky at all. Other images have printed similarly with the green tint.
>
> I have tried changing ink cartridges. No difference.
>
> The online manual mentions that the display uses RGB while printing is 
> CMYK. It does not discuss what to do there is a mismatch between the two.
>
> Any suggestions about what may be done to correct the color issue?
>
> --
> James Moe

[Gimp-user] Most current version of GIMP

2016-09-24 Thread FPC Music Ministry

In order to ensure I have the latest version of GIMP, should I uninstall 
previous versions before downloading and installing the most recent version?

I currently have 2.8.4 on my computers.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Color Management and Photoshop (was: gimp-user-list Digest, Vol 60, Issue 25)

2016-09-24 Thread Klaus Gölker

Standard color profile for photos and images is none or sRGB. Photoshop
imports images from scanners and cameras, which usually produce images based
on that standard sRGB. As far as I can remember, even if you create an 24
Bit image in PS, sRGB is used when saving. Another standard is the Adobe
proprietary Adobe RGB, which is  a "broader", more colorful variety of the
standard RGB (sRGB) color profile, mostly used for printing. You can
download the Adobe RGB color profile for free from Adobes website (just do a
search for Adobe RGB in a searchengine), save it to disc and implement it in
GIMP: menu Edit>Preferences>Color Management.
If an image is in Adobe RGB, opening the image in GIMP results in a warning
message, asking whether you want to keep Adobe RGB or convert it to sRGB. 
You may try setting Adobe RGB as default in the menu mentioned, or just open
your image in Adobe RGB and print.
Regards

Klaus Goelker
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www: goelker.lima-city.de

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   1. Re:  Color mismatch when an image is printed (Pat David)
   2. Re:  Color mismatch when an image is printed (James Moe)
   3. Re:  Error in opening psd files (Steve Kinney)
   4. Re:  Error in opening psd files (Alexandre Prokoudine)
   5. Re:  Error in opening psd files (Partha Bagchi)

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 16:13:06 +
From: Pat David 
To: James Moe , gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Color mismatch when an image is printed
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

This is a complex problem wrapped in a short-ish email...

Is your monitor calibrated and profiled? Did you also generate a profile for
your printer? If not it's not going to be possible to accurately gauge or
anticipate what your prints will look like compared to what you see on your
monitor. :( On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 8:34 PM James Moe 
wrote:

> opensuse 42.1
> linux 4.1.31-30-default x86_64
> gimp 2.8.16
>
> Color profile: sRGB
> Printer Driver description: EPSON PictureMate PM 225 with driver Epson 
> PictureMate PM 225, Epson Inkjet Printer Driver (ESC/P-R) for Linux
>
> I have a Epson PM225 inkjet color printer.
>
> I have printed images previously with the printer and there was no 
> noticeable difference in color. The printer has been not used for 
> several months. There has likely been some GIMP updates during that time.
>
> Currently, when I print an image that has a blue sky, the printed 
> color has a strong green tint to it, not really close to the displayed 
> blue sky at all. Other images have printed similarly with the green tint.
>
> I have tried changing ink cartridges. No difference.
>
> The online manual mentions that the display uses RGB while printing is 
> CMYK. It does not discuss what to do there is a mismatch between the two.
>
> Any suggestions about what may be done to correct the color issue?
>
> --
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> moe dot james at sohnen-moe dot com
> 520.743.3936
> Think.
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Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 19:33:55 -0700
From: James Moe 
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Color mismatch when an image is printed
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

On 09/22/2016 09:13 AM, Pat David wrote:
> Is your monitor calibrated and profiled? Did you also generate a 
> profile for your printer?
>
  The monitor is not calibrated.
  How do I create a profile for a printer?

> If not it's not going to be possible to accurately gauge or anticipate 
> what your prints will look like compared to what you see on your 
> monitor. :(
>
  Well that may be.
  It does not explain the printer's distinct

[Gimp-user] Barely skilled user - How to put a clear layer with test on top of a .gif image

2016-09-24 Thread rich2005

>I am looking for a way to add a layer to a gif image upon which I can
>add
>text, a layer that is transparent and will not move or flash, like
>writing
>on a window behind which there is action.

Try this demo video https://youtu.be/QZBMyKZJVlo 8 minutes

Uses one of Ofnuts scripts, interleave-layers which you can find at

http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimp-tools/files/scripts/

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[Gimp-user] Error in opening psd files

2016-09-24 Thread enzoorsi

>No longer have a copy of Photoshop—I just remember the manual talking
>about it, and that they seemed to have several different color
>standards available.
>
>Sorry my memory of it is no better. It was at least two decades ago
>that I last had to deal much with different color standards. Steve
>Kinney posted that PS uses LAB, which fits my memories, but I seem to
>recall there were one or two others available, at least for printing.
>
>And regardless of whether you use RGB or LAB, printing will be CYMK.
>IIRC (and I may not) LAB is closer to CYMK.
>
>Ross

Hi,
but in GIMP how is possible to export in CYMK before printing?

Thank you!!

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Re: [Gimp-user] Contrast inadequate with tool descriptions

Re: [Gimp-user] Contrast inadequate with tool descriptions

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