Re: [Gimp-user] Question About Recreating a Drop Shadow

[Rick Kline]

Kevin,

I took a close look at the file, and the drop shadow has a 4 pixel wide cutout 
in it. A bit non-standard. I was able to recreate the appearance of the 
original text/drop shadow with the following workflow:

Make a copy of the file. Work with the copy.

1. Select your text layer, edit text to say “THEARTIST” (this is the step I 
can’t easily do without knowing what the font is)
2. Filters menu, Light and Shadow >, Drop Shadow…   (creates a new, 
editable Drop Shadow layer)
Offset x = 8
Offset y = 8
Blur radius = 15
Color = Black
Opacity = 60
Note: I zoomed way in to determine that the blank area in the drop shadow is 4 
pixels, so:
2a. Make sure the text layer is still selected.
3. Choose the Fuzzy Select (magic wand) tool
Hold Shift and click on each letter in turn until all are selected
4. Select menu, Grow, Grow selection by: 2 px
5. Move tool
Click in selected area
alt (or option) right arrow twice (should move selection two pixels to 
the right
alt (or option) down arrow twice (should move selection two pixels down
6. Select new drop shadow layer
7. Edit menu, Cut (or CTRL (or command) x)
8. Select menu, None
9. Turn off old Drop Shadow layer

That should do it. 

I’m working on an iMac with GIMP 2.8.20

Rick K

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> On May 9, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Kevin Cozens  wrote:
> 
> On 2017-05-09 02:40 PM, Amber Sunder wrote:
>> I'm new to using GIMP and am trying to edit the work of the person in my
>> position previous to me. She used a drop shadow on the title of the page
> [snip]
>> This isn't your normal drop shadow, so I'm not sure how she created it!
> [snip]
>> this particular document was created using GIMP
> 
> GIMP includes a filter to add drop shadow to an item. There are (or were) 
> some filters let you create text with a drop shadow.
> 
> You said the drop shadow on the image you are dealing with is not "normal". 
> What is different about it? If the image was created by GIMP it may be 
> slightly different than a drop shadow created by Photoshop (or some other 
> editing program) but it was most likely created using the built-in drop 
> shadow features of GIMP.
> 
> -- 
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> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] What's the term? ...

[Steve Kinney]

On 05/09/2017 03:28 PM, Dave C via gimp-user-list wrote:
> for a transparent image that highlights relevant components within? I’m
> using “ghost drawing” but I know that’s not right.
> 
> What is the word I’m searching for?

Do you mean a "vignette?"  This general idea:

http://www.francescomilanese.com/ENG/gimp/3-vignette-darkening-the-edges-of-an-image-in-gimp-tutorial.html

If so that's it.

You can also do other sneaky things to make the "foreground" subject of
an image stand out, for instance copy your base image, slightly blur it
and slightly reduce its contrast and/or color saturation (a tiny bit
will do the trick), and add a layer mask to it.  Use a radial gradient,
black to white, centered on the part of the image you want to emphasize
and viola:  It pops.

:o)


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Re: [Gimp-user] Question About Recreating a Drop Shadow

[Steve Kinney]

On 05/09/2017 04:10 PM, Kevin Cozens wrote:
> On 2017-05-09 02:40 PM, Amber Sunder wrote:
>> I'm new to using GIMP and am trying to edit the work of the person in my
>> position previous to me. She used a drop shadow on the title of the page
> [snip]
>> This isn't your normal drop shadow, so I'm not sure how she created it!
> [snip]
>> this particular document was created using GIMP
> 
> GIMP includes a filter to add drop shadow to an item. There are (or
> were) some filters let you create text with a drop shadow.

With your text layer selected, do Filters > Light and shadow > Drop
shadow.  Tweak the settings, try it, undo, adjust again, etc. until you
get what you are after or determine that this filter won't do it.

You might also want to try some of the effects at Filters > Alpha to
logo.  Note that the results come out as layers, and you can remove,
change opacity, or otherwise edit the individual layers to tweak the
result.  If the strange drop shadow was originally made with one of
these scripts, you should be able to get an exact duplicate without too
much trial and error.

An "abnormal" drop shadow may or may not be reproducible with a filter
or script; but it's not hard to do these things by hand.

Basic drop shadow:

* Create your text with the Text tool; size and position it as required.
 Note that you can alter letter spacing, line spacing, alignment inside
the text box (left, center, right or justified) with a tool in the Tool
Options dock when the Text tool is active and a text layer is selected.

* In the Layers dock, make a copy of your text layer.  Change the color
of the original (lower) text layer to black by drag-and-drop from the
color tool while that layer is selected.  Or, use the shadow color of
your choice.

* Next, with the lower (shadow) layer selected, right click that layer's
icon in the Layers dialog and do "Discard text information."  It is now
a normal image layer that you can do awful things to.

* Still with the shadow layer selected in the Layers dialog, turn on the
Move tool, click on the image canvas window to make it active, and use
your keyboard arrow keys to offset the shadow layer from the text layer,
positioning it to function as a drop shadow.

* Do Filters > Blur > Gaussian Blur to give your shadow a soft edge.
Play with different blur values, move the layer around a bit, etc. until
it starts to look right (Ctrl+z is your friend - instant easy undo).
You may also want to adjust the shadow layer's opacity via the slider at
the top of the Layers dock.

I don't know what's unusual about the drop shadow you are duplicating,
but variations on the method presented above should allow you to
duplicate most anything that can be called a drop shadow.

> You said the drop shadow on the image you are dealing with is not
> "normal". What is different about it? If the image was created by GIMP
> it may be slightly different than a drop shadow created by Photoshop (or
> some other editing program) but it was most likely created using the
> built-in drop shadow features of GIMP.

Verily:  If we could see the original you are trying to duplicate, the
method used might be obvious.  Or at least a way to do the same thing
should not be hard for the gang here to come up with.

:o)

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP ---> Pixi: suggested name change

[Marco Ciampa via gimp-user-list]

On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 08:39:53PM +0100, gimp-users.mbou...@spamgourmet.com 
wrote:
> Joshua Coppersmith-Heaven wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >
> >GIMP is a great programme, but it is not a great name. Changing its
> >identity to something more likeable will help to get more users, and
> >potentially more developers.
> >
> >There is a commercial image editor called Pixie (with an e), but not
> >Pixi. This makes sense, as long as the software remains a pixel-based
> >editor.
> 
> How about the Pixel Image Manipulation Program? Similar to the current name,
> but emphasises that it's a pixel rather than vector image editor.
> 
> (No, of course I'm not serious!)

That was a good one! :-)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Question About Recreating a Drop Shadow

[Rick Kline]

Ah, there we go.

Besides the wood background, it looks like three layers to me: The black text 
front layer, a light drop shadow the average color of the wood, and a darker 
drop shadow behind that.

Do you have a layered copy of the image? i.e. the original GIMP FILE? I (or 
someone else) could probably edit the file and get it back to you reasonably 
quickly.

I highly recommend making a copy of the file, and work on the copy. If there’s 
only one drop shadow(s) layer behind the text, try turning off the text by 
clicking the eye next to its layer thumbnail, and see if the shadow is, indeed, 
two shadows. If so, and you have AT LEAST the editable text layer and the wood 
background, then I’d suggest making two copies of the text layer, and move them 
to slightly right and down, with the lowest layer moved the farthest, to 
recreate the spacing of the original shadow(s). Then use the eyedropper tool to 
select the light grey for the middle text layer and change the text to that 
color, and do the same for the bottom layer, using the darker grey.  That 
should get you pretty close. May want to apply some blur to the shadow layers, 
but that’s up to you.

Anyhoo, that would be my initial approach, given a file with at least the wood 
and text layers.

Once you’re happy with the result using “THE MUSICIAN” you can easily edit the 
text layers to become “THE ARTIST” and you should be good to go.

Hope that helps.  If you want to shoot me the layered GIMP file, or a link to 
it, I’d be glad to give it a shot, or at least take a look at the layers to see 
what you have going on.

Rick K

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> On May 9, 2017, at 4:01 PM, Amber Sunder  wrote:
> 
> My apologies! That link wasn’t intended to direct you to the page, it’s 
> merely a part of my email signature. See below for ‘The Musician’ title that 
> needs to be changed. If you have any idea how to recreate that, or how I can 
> find the settings for that particular drop shadow within GIMP so I can copy 
> and recreate them, I would greatly appreciate your help!
>  
> Thank you!
>  
> 
>  
>  
> AMBER SUNDER
> OFFICE MANAGER/EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT
>  
>  
>  
> P. (615) 742-0099
> A. The Orbison Building
>  1625 Broadway, STE 600
>  Nashville, TN 37203
>  
> 
>  
> JOSH TURNER  I DIAMOND RIO  I 
> ASHLEY CLEVELAND 
> MEGAN DAVIES  I RAQUEL COLE 
> 
>  
>  
> From: Rick Kline [mailto:r...@kline.ms] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 2:59 PM
> To: Amber Sunder 
> Cc: Rick Strong ; gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Question About Recreating a Drop Shadow
>  
> Like Rick Strong, I don’t see a drop shadow. The only web page you’ve listed 
> is >, and I don’t see “The 
> Musician” link anywhere on the page. Can you point us in the right direction, 
> please?
>  
> Rick Kline
>  
>  * * ** *** *  * * 
> It’s better to wave at a stranger than to ignore a friend
>  * * ** *** *  * * 
>  
> On May 9, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Amber Sunder  > wrote:
>  
> Hey Rick!
> 
> 
> 
> Sorry for the confusion! I guess I was a bit vague in my initial inquiry. I 
> was just hoping there was a way to find one drop shadow's settings to apply 
> them to another drop shadow that I was unaware of. It's the drop shadow on 
> 'The Musician' - I need to change that title to 'The Artist,' but unlike 
> Photoshop, it doesn't just adjust the drop shadow when you edit text since 
> the drop shadow is a layer in itself. If you have any idea how I can recreate 
> this drop shadow, I would GREATLY appreciate your help!
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> [cid:image002.jpg@01D2C8D0.2788B870 ]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Strong [mailto:rnstr...@primus.ca ]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 2:14 PM
> To: Amber Sunder >; 
> gimp-user-list@gnome.org 
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Question About Recreating a Drop Shadow
> 
> 
> 
> Which drop shadow are you referring to? There isn't one on your corporate 
> page.
> 
> 
> 
> Rick S.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> 
> From: Amber Sunder
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 2:40 PM
> 
> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org 
>  >
> 
> Subject: [Gimp-user] Question About Recreating a Drop Shadow
> 
> 
> 
> Hello!
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Gimp-user] Question About Recreating a Drop Shadow

[Kevin Cozens]

On 2017-05-09 02:40 PM, Amber Sunder wrote:

I'm new to using GIMP and am trying to edit the work of the person in my
position previous to me. She used a drop shadow on the title of the page

[snip]

This isn't your normal drop shadow, so I'm not sure how she created it!

[snip]

this particular document was created using GIMP


GIMP includes a filter to add drop shadow to an item. There are (or were) 
some filters let you create text with a drop shadow.


You said the drop shadow on the image you are dealing with is not "normal". 
What is different about it? If the image was created by GIMP it may be 
slightly different than a drop shadow created by Photoshop (or some other 
editing program) but it was most likely created using the built-in drop 
shadow features of GIMP.


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| powerful!"
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Re: [Gimp-user] Question About Recreating a Drop Shadow

[Rick Kline]

Like Rick Strong, I don’t see a drop shadow. The only web page you’ve listed is 
>, and I don’t see “The Musician” 
link anywhere on the page. Can you point us in the right direction, please?

Rick Kline

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> On May 9, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Amber Sunder  wrote:
> 
> Hey Rick!
> 
> 
> 
> Sorry for the confusion! I guess I was a bit vague in my initial inquiry. I 
> was just hoping there was a way to find one drop shadow's settings to apply 
> them to another drop shadow that I was unaware of. It's the drop shadow on 
> 'The Musician' - I need to change that title to 'The Artist,' but unlike 
> Photoshop, it doesn't just adjust the drop shadow when you edit text since 
> the drop shadow is a layer in itself. If you have any idea how I can recreate 
> this drop shadow, I would GREATLY appreciate your help!
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> [cid:image002.jpg@01D2C8D0.2788B870]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Strong [mailto:rnstr...@primus.ca]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 2:14 PM
> To: Amber Sunder ; gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Question About Recreating a Drop Shadow
> 
> 
> 
> Which drop shadow are you referring to? There isn't one on your corporate 
> page.
> 
> 
> 
> Rick S.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> 
> From: Amber Sunder
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 2:40 PM
> 
> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> 
> Subject: [Gimp-user] Question About Recreating a Drop Shadow
> 
> 
> 
> Hello!
> 
> 
> 
> I'm new to using GIMP and am trying to edit the work of the person in my 
> position previous to me. She used a drop shadow on the title of the page "The 
> Musician," but the title is being changed to "The Artist." This isn't your 
> normal drop shadow, so I'm not sure how she created it! My question is - is 
> there a way to recreate a drop shadow using existing settings? And where can 
> I find the settings for the initial drop shadow to duplicate it on "The 
> Artist"? In Photoshop, this wouldn't be an issue for me at all, but this 
> particular document was created using GIMP, which I'm not very familiar with, 
> so I would appreciate any suggestions or assistance!
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks so much!
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP ---> Pixi: suggested name change

[gimp-users . mbourne]

Joshua Coppersmith-Heaven wrote:

Hi all,

GIMP is a great programme, but it is not a great name. Changing its
identity to something more likeable will help to get more users, and
potentially more developers.

There is a commercial image editor called Pixie (with an e), but not
Pixi. This makes sense, as long as the software remains a pixel-based
editor.


How about the Pixel Image Manipulation Program? Similar to the current 
name, but emphasises that it's a pixel rather than vector image editor.







(No, of course I'm not serious!)

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[Gimp-user] What's the term? ...

[Dave C via gimp-user-list]

for a transparent image that highlights relevant components within? 
I’m using “ghost drawing” but I know that’s not right.


What is the word I’m searching for?

Thanks,
Dave
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Re: [Gimp-user] Question About Recreating a Drop Shadow

[Amber Sunder]

Hey Rick!



Sorry for the confusion! I guess I was a bit vague in my initial inquiry. I was 
just hoping there was a way to find one drop shadow's settings to apply them to 
another drop shadow that I was unaware of. It's the drop shadow on 'The 
Musician' - I need to change that title to 'The Artist,' but unlike Photoshop, 
it doesn't just adjust the drop shadow when you edit text since the drop shadow 
is a layer in itself. If you have any idea how I can recreate this drop shadow, 
I would GREATLY appreciate your help!



Thanks!



[cid:image002.jpg@01D2C8D0.2788B870]





-Original Message-
From: Rick Strong [mailto:rnstr...@primus.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 2:14 PM
To: Amber Sunder ; gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Question About Recreating a Drop Shadow



Which drop shadow are you referring to? There isn't one on your corporate page.



Rick S.



-Original Message-

From: Amber Sunder

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 2:40 PM

To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org

Subject: [Gimp-user] Question About Recreating a Drop Shadow



Hello!



I'm new to using GIMP and am trying to edit the work of the person in my 
position previous to me. She used a drop shadow on the title of the page "The 
Musician," but the title is being changed to "The Artist." This isn't your 
normal drop shadow, so I'm not sure how she created it! My question is - is 
there a way to recreate a drop shadow using existing settings? And where can I 
find the settings for the initial drop shadow to duplicate it on "The Artist"? 
In Photoshop, this wouldn't be an issue for me at all, but this particular 
document was created using GIMP, which I'm not very familiar with, so I would 
appreciate any suggestions or assistance!



Thanks so much!





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Re: [Gimp-user] Question About Recreating a Drop Shadow

[Rick Strong]

Which drop shadow are you referring to? There isn't one on your corporate 
page.


Rick S.

-Original Message- 
From: Amber Sunder

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 2:40 PM
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: [Gimp-user] Question About Recreating a Drop Shadow

Hello!

I'm new to using GIMP and am trying to edit the work of the person in my 
position previous to me. She used a drop shadow on the title of the page 
"The Musician," but the title is being changed to "The Artist." This isn't 
your normal drop shadow, so I'm not sure how she created it! My question 
is - is there a way to recreate a drop shadow using existing settings? And 
where can I find the settings for the initial drop shadow to duplicate it on 
"The Artist"? In Photoshop, this wouldn't be an issue for me at all, but 
this particular document was created using GIMP, which I'm not very familiar 
with, so I would appreciate any suggestions or assistance!


Thanks so much!

AMBER SUNDER
OFFICE MANAGER/EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT

[mod logo (color)]

P. (615) 742-0099
A. The Orbison Building
1625 Broadway, STE 600
Nashville, TN 37203

[DOTTED LINE FOR EMAIL SIGNATURE 2]

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ASHLEY CLEVELAND
MEGAN DAVIES I RAQUEL 
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[Gimp-user] Question About Recreating a Drop Shadow

[Amber Sunder]

Hello!

I'm new to using GIMP and am trying to edit the work of the person in my 
position previous to me. She used a drop shadow on the title of the page "The 
Musician," but the title is being changed to "The Artist." This isn't your 
normal drop shadow, so I'm not sure how she created it! My question is - is 
there a way to recreate a drop shadow using existing settings? And where can I 
find the settings for the initial drop shadow to duplicate it on "The Artist"? 
In Photoshop, this wouldn't be an issue for me at all, but this particular 
document was created using GIMP, which I'm not very familiar with, so I would 
appreciate any suggestions or assistance!

Thanks so much!

AMBER SUNDER
OFFICE MANAGER/EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT

[mod logo (color)]

P. (615) 742-0099
A. The Orbison Building
 1625 Broadway, STE 600
 Nashville, TN 37203

[DOTTED LINE FOR EMAIL SIGNATURE 2]

JOSH TURNER I DIAMOND RIO I 
ASHLEY CLEVELAND
MEGAN DAVIES I RAQUEL 
COLE


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Re: [Gimp-user] How do I put diacritics in text?

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi Alex,

please reply to all recipients - see
http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/computers/netiquette/email/reply-to-list.html

. I'm CCing the list.

On Tue, 9 May 2017 11:17:08 +1000 Alex Bell  wrote:

> Thanks, Shlomi. The problem is fixed.
>

Great! You're welcome.
 
> But I have had so many responses and am a new member of the group, so I 
> need to ask - it is customary to respond to every reply?
> 

You can make a single reply thanking everyone who responded.

> Regards, Alex
> 
> On 8/05/2017 6:54 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> > Hi Alex!
> > 
> > On Mon, 8 May 2017 18:11:20 +1000
> > Alex Bell  wrote:
> >   
> >> I'm afraid I have minimal knowledge of GIMP; I only use it to design
> >> simple covers for the ebooks I design for the free ebook library at
> >> www.mobileread.com.
> >>
> >> The ebook I'm about to start working on is 'The Adventures of Elizabeth
> >> in Rügen'. As you can see the u in Rügen has an umlaut, but I can't work
> >> out how to produce that with GIMP. The text is white on a black
> >> background, so I can't make an image of the text and use that.
> >>
> >> Can anyone tell me how to put diacritics in text?
> >>  
> > 
> > I have no problem inserting a "ü" using my compose key in GIMP (fedora 26
> > x86-64). See:
> > 
> > http://www.shlomifish.org/Files/files/images/gimp--text-with-unicode-u-umlaut.png
> > 
> > GIMP should support many unicode codepoints given font support. Try using a
> > compose key or pasting the text into the GIMP text tool.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Shlomi
> >   
> 



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