Re: [Gimp-user] Driving me crazy!!!

[Richard]

Note that unlike an analog dodge/burn, digital dodge/burn tool can be 
configured to affect shadows, midtones, or highlights.  Check which mode is 
currently active in the toolbox options and experiment to find which one works 
better for what.


Also, since GIMP processes the image in RGB space, dodge/burn operations affect 
each channel independently and this will sometimes cause unwanted hue shifts 
when dealing with mixed RGB tones.  E.g. doing a midtones or shadows burn on a 
pixel of RGB #ff8000 (orange) will cause it to fade to red and stop, not a 
darker orange followed by brown and black.  If you want to preserve 
hue/saturation while using dodge/burn you may want to consider decomposing the 
image into a colorspace that separates greyscale from chroma (like YCC).


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I've been using the burn tool, it works to remove part of the shadow on their
faces but they always end up looking deformed lol

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[Gimp-user] Driving me crazy!!!

[ghart89]

Thank you for all the help Here is one of the edits i was able to do with it
all!!! And why i never thought about cropping it, i'll never know!!! lol

Attachments:
* http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/344/original/DSCN0624_(2).JPG
* http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/345/original/DSCN0633_(3).JPG

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[Gimp-user] Driving me crazy!!!

[ghart89]

>You are right. Changing the part you want changes the parts you DON'T
>want
>to change. That's why we try to get the light right when the shot is
>being
>taken. Some people even use the little flash on their camera to "fill
>in"
>the shadows when photographing people outdoors in strong light.
>
>Try playing around with the "Dodge and Burn" tool in GIMP. Dodge means
>to
>hold back the light i.e make and area brighter. You would use this in
>the
>shadow areas of the people. Burn means to increase the light or make
>an area
>darker.
>
>Feather your brush and start slowly, exposure at about 10%. Ctrl+Z
>will
>cancel the effect and you can start over. Practice on something that
>you
>don't want to keep.
>
>Rick S.
>

I've been using the burn tool, it works to remove part of the shadow on their
faces but they always end up looking deformed lol
>-Original Message- 
>From: ghart89
>Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 7:07 PM
>To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
>Cc: notificati...@gimpusers.com
>Subject: [Gimp-user] Driving me crazy!!!
>Thank you. When it comes to pictures, i want them to look as perfect
>as
>possible.  I feel like the background and their skin are really
>bright. But
>when
>i try to darken it the shadows on their faces get dark and you lose
>the
>detail
>:(

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[Gimp-user] Driving me crazy!!!

[ghart89]

>If that were my picture,  I would
>
>1.  crop away most of the wall, left right and above your subject.
>2.  I would crop away the subjects from the waist down.
>3. As it appears that you shot this face on,  the crop would give you
>that
>portion of the subject scene that was of interest. 
>4.  Edit to get the faces as correct as possible.   The faces are 99%
>of
>what anyone looking at this will focus on. 
>
>5.  As a P.S.   Next time fill the view finder with your subject, move
>them
>away from the wall, and use a flash for fill lighting (or other
>lighting
>devices as available). 
>
>With that said,  it is a good effort by someone learning.  Keep
>practicing,
>reading, and asking questions.  
>
>-Original Message-
>From: gimp-user-list [mailto:gimp-user-list-boun...@gnome.org] On
>Behalf Of
>ghart89
>Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 10:06 PM
>To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
>Cc: notificati...@gimpusers.com
>Subject: [Gimp-user] Driving me crazy!!!
>
>I am new at photography, and i recently took some engagement photos
>for a
>friend. I have been trying to edit a few of the pictures that are
>super
>bright (they wanted to take pictures at 11 am.) can anyone help me
>figure out how to edit the pictures without washing them out?
>
>Attachments:
>*
>http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/341/original/DSCN0624.JPG
>
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Thank you, ill try that!

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Re: [Gimp-user] Driving me crazy!!!

[Ed]

If that were my picture,  I would

1.  crop away most of the wall, left right and above your subject.
2.  I would crop away the subjects from the waist down.
3. As it appears that you shot this face on,  the crop would give you that
portion of the subject scene that was of interest. 
4.  Edit to get the faces as correct as possible.   The faces are 99% of
what anyone looking at this will focus on. 

5.  As a P.S.   Next time fill the view finder with your subject, move them
away from the wall, and use a flash for fill lighting (or other lighting
devices as available). 

With that said,  it is a good effort by someone learning.  Keep practicing,
reading, and asking questions.  

-Original Message-
From: gimp-user-list [mailto:gimp-user-list-boun...@gnome.org] On Behalf Of
ghart89
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 10:06 PM
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Cc: notificati...@gimpusers.com
Subject: [Gimp-user] Driving me crazy!!!

I am new at photography, and i recently took some engagement photos for a
friend. I have been trying to edit a few of the pictures that are super
bright (they wanted to take pictures at 11 am.) can anyone help me
figure out how to edit the pictures without washing them out?

Attachments:
* http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/341/original/DSCN0624.JPG

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Re: [Gimp-user] Driving me crazy!!!

[Rick Strong]

Just paying it forward.

I'm a newbie to GIMP too, but used Adobe CS for many years.
Over the years, I have been helped many, many times by folks on lists just 
like this. (Remember Pagemaker?)
I've found that the lists that endure have a "smile in their voice" and say 
"please" and "thank you" a lot.


Cheers,
Rick S.



-Original Message- 
From: Joel Rees

Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 7:42 AM
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Driving me crazy!!!

whoa!

On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Rick Strong <rnstr...@primus.ca> wrote:

You are right. Changing the part you want changes the parts you DON'T want
to change. That's why we try to get the light right when the shot is being
taken. Some people even use the little flash on their camera to "fill in"
the shadows when photographing people outdoors in strong light.

Try playing around with the "Dodge and Burn" tool in GIMP. Dodge means to
hold back the light i.e make and area brighter. You would use this in the
shadow areas of the people. Burn means to increase the light or make an 
area

darker.


I have been looking for that tool for ages! Now I know what it's
called, I can find the documentation and figure out how to make it
work.


[...]


Thank you, ghart for starting the thread, and of course, Rick, for
chiming in at the right time.

This is why we sign up for these lists. Trying to help others, we get
helped in turn. Way cool.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Driving me crazy!!!

[Joel Rees]

whoa!

On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Rick Strong  wrote:
> You are right. Changing the part you want changes the parts you DON'T want
> to change. That's why we try to get the light right when the shot is being
> taken. Some people even use the little flash on their camera to "fill in"
> the shadows when photographing people outdoors in strong light.
>
> Try playing around with the "Dodge and Burn" tool in GIMP. Dodge means to
> hold back the light i.e make and area brighter. You would use this in the
> shadow areas of the people. Burn means to increase the light or make an area
> darker.

I have been looking for that tool for ages! Now I know what it's
called, I can find the documentation and figure out how to make it
work.

> [...]

Thank you, ghart for starting the thread, and of course, Rick, for
chiming in at the right time.

This is why we sign up for these lists. Trying to help others, we get
helped in turn. Way cool.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Driving me crazy!!!

[Noel Stoutenburg]

ghart89 wrote:

I am new at photography, and i recently took some engagement photos for a
friend. I have been trying to edit a few of the pictures that are super bright
(they wanted to take pictures at 11 am.) can anyone help me figure out how
to edit the pictures without washing them out?


You might check some of the Youtube tutorials on using GIMP for image 
correction. You might find this video,  
particularly useful.


ns

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Re: [Gimp-user] Driving me crazy!!!

[Rick Strong]

You are right. Changing the part you want changes the parts you DON'T want 
to change. That's why we try to get the light right when the shot is being 
taken. Some people even use the little flash on their camera to "fill in" 
the shadows when photographing people outdoors in strong light.


Try playing around with the "Dodge and Burn" tool in GIMP. Dodge means to 
hold back the light i.e make and area brighter. You would use this in the 
shadow areas of the people. Burn means to increase the light or make an area 
darker.


Feather your brush and start slowly, exposure at about 10%. Ctrl+Z will 
cancel the effect and you can start over. Practice on something that you 
don't want to keep.


Rick S.

-Original Message- 
From: ghart89

Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 7:07 PM
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Cc: notificati...@gimpusers.com
Subject: [Gimp-user] Driving me crazy!!!


Your attachment is a JPG so I assume that's what your camera produced.

1. Open your photo in GIMP.
2. Save it under a new name.
2b. If you know how to make a duplicate layer, start by making a
duplicate
layer and work on that.
3. Crop out the extra wall on the left and right sides.
4. Go to Colors > Levels on the menu.
5. Make sure the Preview box has a checkmark in it.
6. Move the CENTER slider at the top, where it says 1.0, a bit to the
right
until it says .80.
7. Look at the results. Adjust it either way to your taste.
8. Save the GIMP file as an .XCF.
9. Export it as a JPG (File > Export AS) or anything else.

Next time, (the wedding?) if you have to photograph people outside in
bright
sunshine, have an assistant hold up a large white sheet or piece of
white
paper on the shadow side of the person or couple. That way the shadows
won't
be quite so dark. You should be able to see a difference before you
take the
picture.

Also, have your couple stand further away from the wall so that their
shadows are cast on the ground and the wall is out of focus.

Forget about perfection. You have done the important job of
photographing
the happy couple.

Cheers,
Rick S



Thank you. When it comes to pictures, i want them to look as perfect as
possible.  I feel like the background and their skin are really bright. But 
when
i try to darken it the shadows on their faces get dark and you lose the 
detail

:(

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Re: [Gimp-user] Driving me crazy!!!

[Partha Bagchi]

My advice to you is to make sure that your monitor is calibrated before you
decided whether an image is bright/dull etc.

On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 7:12 PM, ghart89  wrote:

> >What did you want to do to the images? What sorts of edits are you
> >thinking
> >of doing?
> >On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 12:45 PM Alexandre Prokoudine <
> >alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Just basic, make it a little less bright. But when i do that the shadows on
> their faces get so dark you loose facial detail :( When i lighten the
> shadows
> their faces look weird
>
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[ghart89]

>What did you want to do to the images? What sorts of edits are you
>thinking
>of doing?
>On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 12:45 PM Alexandre Prokoudine <
>alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote:

Just basic, make it a little less bright. But when i do that the shadows on
their faces get so dark you loose facial detail :( When i lighten the shadows
their faces look weird

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[ghart89]

>They don't look super-bright to me. Just a tad too much highlights in
>a few
>places. Did you shoot to JPEG or RAW?
>
>Alex
>
>26 нояб. 2016 г. 21:14 пользователь "ghart89" 
>написал:

I feel like the background is really bright and their skin tone. When i darken
it the shadows in the background and on their faces get really dark. What would
you do to the picture? I'm really detail oriented, and want them too look as
good as possible.

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[ghart89]

>Your attachment is a JPG so I assume that's what your camera produced.
>
>1. Open your photo in GIMP.
>2. Save it under a new name.
>2b. If you know how to make a duplicate layer, start by making a
>duplicate
>layer and work on that.
>3. Crop out the extra wall on the left and right sides.
>4. Go to Colors > Levels on the menu.
>5. Make sure the Preview box has a checkmark in it.
>6. Move the CENTER slider at the top, where it says 1.0, a bit to the
>right
>until it says .80.
>7. Look at the results. Adjust it either way to your taste.
>8. Save the GIMP file as an .XCF.
>9. Export it as a JPG (File > Export AS) or anything else.
>
>Next time, (the wedding?) if you have to photograph people outside in
>bright
>sunshine, have an assistant hold up a large white sheet or piece of
>white
>paper on the shadow side of the person or couple. That way the shadows
>won't
>be quite so dark. You should be able to see a difference before you
>take the
>picture.
>
>Also, have your couple stand further away from the wall so that their 
>shadows are cast on the ground and the wall is out of focus.
>
>Forget about perfection. You have done the important job of
>photographing
>the happy couple.
>
>Cheers,
>Rick S


Thank you. When it comes to pictures, i want them to look as perfect as
possible.  I feel like the background and their skin are really bright. But when
i try to darken it the shadows on their faces get dark and you lose the detail
:(

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Re: [Gimp-user] Driving me crazy!!!

[Rick Strong]

Your attachment is a JPG so I assume that's what your camera produced.

1. Open your photo in GIMP.
2. Save it under a new name.
2b. If you know how to make a duplicate layer, start by making a duplicate 
layer and work on that.

3. Crop out the extra wall on the left and right sides.
4. Go to Colors > Levels on the menu.
5. Make sure the Preview box has a checkmark in it.
6. Move the CENTER slider at the top, where it says 1.0, a bit to the right 
until it says .80.

7. Look at the results. Adjust it either way to your taste.
8. Save the GIMP file as an .XCF.
9. Export it as a JPG (File > Export AS) or anything else.

Next time, (the wedding?) if you have to photograph people outside in bright 
sunshine, have an assistant hold up a large white sheet or piece of white 
paper on the shadow side of the person or couple. That way the shadows won't 
be quite so dark. You should be able to see a difference before you take the 
picture.


Also, have your couple stand further away from the wall so that their 
shadows are cast on the ground and the wall is out of focus.


Forget about perfection. You have done the important job of photographing 
the happy couple.


Cheers,
Rick S.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Driving me crazy!!!

[Pat David]

What did you want to do to the images? What sorts of edits are you thinking
of doing?
On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 12:45 PM Alexandre Prokoudine <
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote:

> They don't look super-bright to me. Just a tad too much highlights in a few
> places. Did you shoot to JPEG or RAW?
>
> Alex
>
> 26 нояб. 2016 г. 21:14 пользователь "ghart89" 
> написал:
>
> > I am new at photography, and i recently took some engagement photos for a
> > friend. I have been trying to edit a few of the pictures that are super
> > bright
> > (they wanted to take pictures at 11 am.) can anyone help me figure
> out
> > how
> > to edit the pictures without washing them out?
> >
> > Attachments:
> > * http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/341/original/DSCN0624.JPG
> >
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Re: [Gimp-user] Driving me crazy!!!

[Alexandre Prokoudine]

They don't look super-bright to me. Just a tad too much highlights in a few
places. Did you shoot to JPEG or RAW?

Alex

26 нояб. 2016 г. 21:14 пользователь "ghart89" 
написал:

> I am new at photography, and i recently took some engagement photos for a
> friend. I have been trying to edit a few of the pictures that are super
> bright
> (they wanted to take pictures at 11 am.) can anyone help me figure out
> how
> to edit the pictures without washing them out?
>
> Attachments:
> * http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/341/original/DSCN0624.JPG
>
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[Gimp-user] Driving me crazy!!!

[ghart89]

I am new at photography, and i recently took some engagement photos for a
friend. I have been trying to edit a few of the pictures that are super bright
(they wanted to take pictures at 11 am.) can anyone help me figure out how
to edit the pictures without washing them out?

Attachments:
* http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/341/original/DSCN0624.JPG

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