Off-line deverloper workflow?

2013-06-27 Thread Woody Wu
Hi,

I have a colleague who has to left our office for three month, but still
need to work on the project which is hosted on our in-office git
repository. Problem is that our company has firewall, it's not possible
or not allowed to access the company LAN outside the building.  So I
want to ask you expert, can you suggest a best practice of git workflow
that suitable to my situation?

Thanks in advance.

-woody

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Re: Off-line deverloper workflow?

2013-06-27 Thread Fredrik Gustafsson
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 08:46:56PM +0800, Woody Wu wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have a colleague who has to left our office for three month, but still
 need to work on the project which is hosted on our in-office git
 repository. Problem is that our company has firewall, it's not possible
 or not allowed to access the company LAN outside the building.  So I
 want to ask you expert, can you suggest a best practice of git workflow
 that suitable to my situation?

There's a number of ways that git can communicate with an other git
repo. However, communication needs access. You can for example e-mail
changes or sen them as files manually with git sneakernet functionality.
However those cases would be as bad (or worse) than to open your
firewall.

The best solution would be a remote repository outside your firewall
where your inhouse team and your outhouse developer can share stuff with
eachother. However the securitry for this special project will be lower.
(Maybe this isn't an important project to you, I don't know). This
repository can be at your inhouse-site, at your developer or at some
third part. Use ssh with keys and passphrases to communicate.

Keep in mind that a git repository contains all of your source history.
Your security for that source code will be whatever security your
outhouse developer has. If he fails with his security, there's no
meaning with having great inhouse security.

If this isn't an option I would suggest that you establish an encrypted
sneakernet (for example over UPS/bike messengers/whatever) between your
developer and your office. Or just ask yourself if your security
settings really is sane.

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Re: Off-line deverloper workflow?

2013-06-27 Thread Johan Herland
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Woody Wu narkewo...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a colleague who has to left our office for three month, but still
 need to work on the project which is hosted on our in-office git
 repository. Problem is that our company has firewall, it's not possible
 or not allowed to access the company LAN outside the building.  So I
 want to ask you expert, can you suggest a best practice of git workflow
 that suitable to my situation?

If he can set up an SSH server on his machine (outside the company
network), then he can set up a mirror repo on his machine, where you
can push changes from the office to him, and pull changes from him
back into the office. Of course, you will probably need to synchronize
this with him, especially if he's travelling and frequently offline or
changing IP addresses. Also you need to be able to make outbound SSH
connections through the company firewall, but AFAICS that is usually
allowed.

His work repo is then a local clone of the mirror repo, and when he's
ready to publish some work to you, he pushes it to the mirror repo,
and asks you to pull from the mirror repo.

If the source code is not secret, you could even synchronize through
GitHub or some other repo hosting service, which would be even easier
to set up.


Hope this helps,

...Johan

 Thanks in advance.

 -woody

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Re: Off-line deverloper workflow?

2013-06-27 Thread Woody Wu
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 08:06:05AM -0500, Tim Chase wrote:
 On 2013-06-27 20:46, Woody Wu wrote:
  I have a colleague who has to left our office for three month, but
  still need to work on the project which is hosted on our in-office
  git repository. Problem is that our company has firewall, it's not
  possible or not allowed to access the company LAN outside the
  building.  So I want to ask you expert, can you suggest a best
  practice of git workflow that suitable to my situation?
 
 It would help to know a little more about the information flow and
 the starting conditions.
 
 - Was a clone of code made before leaving your office or does your
   colleague need to obtain the initial copy too?

Yes, he had a clone already.

 
 - How securely do you need to transfer matters?  (email?  shared
   external service like Dropbox/Box.com/etc)

I prefer email.

 
 - How frequently do updates need to be made?
 

Maybe once several days.

 - In which direction do commits flow?  Just from your colleague back
   to the office, or are there other updates happening in the office
   that your colleague needs to pull down to keep in sync?

Bi-direction, means my colleague and my in-house team need to modify the
code.

 
 Without such answers, it's a little hard to suggest more than
 transmitting either patch files or bundles using any of the following:
 email, a shared cloud drive, a shared host out accessible on the net,
 or sneakernet media (flash-drive or CD/DVD, perhaps via the postal
 system), or possibly other means.
 
 You may want to read more at
 
   git help format-patch
   git help am
   git help bundle
 
 -tkc
 
 
 
 

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Re: Off-line deverloper workflow?

2013-06-27 Thread Woody Wu
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 03:14:05PM +0200, Johan Herland wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Woody Wu narkewo...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have a colleague who has to left our office for three month, but still
  need to work on the project which is hosted on our in-office git
  repository. Problem is that our company has firewall, it's not possible
  or not allowed to access the company LAN outside the building.  So I
  want to ask you expert, can you suggest a best practice of git workflow
  that suitable to my situation?
 
 If he can set up an SSH server on his machine (outside the company
 network), then he can set up a mirror repo on his machine, where you
 can push changes from the office to him, and pull changes from him
 back into the office. Of course, you will probably need to synchronize
 this with him, especially if he's travelling and frequently offline or
 changing IP addresses. Also you need to be able to make outbound SSH
 connections through the company firewall, but AFAICS that is usually
 allowed.

Outbound ssh to me is not a problem, but inbound ssh to him may be a big
problem. You know hotel firewall or some home ADSL don't allow that.

 
 His work repo is then a local clone of the mirror repo, and when he's
 ready to publish some work to you, he pushes it to the mirror repo,
 and asks you to pull from the mirror repo.

 
 If the source code is not secret, you could even synchronize through
 GitHub or some other repo hosting service, which would be even easier
 to set up.
 
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 ...Johan
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
  -woody
 
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Re: Off-line deverloper workflow?

2013-06-27 Thread Johan Herland
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Woody Wu narkewo...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 03:14:05PM +0200, Johan Herland wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Woody Wu narkewo...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have a colleague who has to left our office for three month, but still
  need to work on the project which is hosted on our in-office git
  repository. Problem is that our company has firewall, it's not possible
  or not allowed to access the company LAN outside the building.  So I
  want to ask you expert, can you suggest a best practice of git workflow
  that suitable to my situation?

 If he can set up an SSH server on his machine (outside the company
 network), then he can set up a mirror repo on his machine, where you
 can push changes from the office to him, and pull changes from him
 back into the office. Of course, you will probably need to synchronize
 this with him, especially if he's travelling and frequently offline or
 changing IP addresses. Also you need to be able to make outbound SSH
 connections through the company firewall, but AFAICS that is usually
 allowed.

 Outbound ssh to me is not a problem, but inbound ssh to him may be a big
 problem. You know hotel firewall or some home ADSL don't allow that.

In that case, you will need either:

A) A third machine, accessible from both you and him (preferably over
SSH), where you can store the repo. I don't know what your company
infrastructure looks like, but maybe it's possible to setup a server
in the DMZ outside your company firewall?

B) Use a more manual mechanism like emailing bundles (as explained by
Jean-Noël).


...Johan

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Re: Off-line deverloper workflow?

2013-06-27 Thread Woody Wu
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 03:43:51PM +0200, Jean-No?l Avila wrote:
 Le 27/06/2013 14:46, Woody Wu a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 I have a colleague who has to left our office for three month, but still
 need to work on the project which is hosted on our in-office git
 repository. Problem is that our company has firewall, it's not possible
 or not allowed to access the company LAN outside the building.  So I
 want to ask you expert, can you suggest a best practice of git workflow
 that suitable to my situation?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 -woody
 
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 For a short time, I had the same issue. We came up using git
 bundle to bundle changes and exchange them via email.
 
 The setup was to work in two separate branches. The roaming
 developper started a new branch when leaving. After some work, she
 sent the commits on her branch as a bundle file. The origin merged
 the branch extracted from the developper's bundle and sent back the
 bundle of the changes on origin since the last merge.
 
 No doubt that both side need to understand well the workflow of
 fetch/merge. Bundle files can be encrypted for better security.
 
 Hope this helps.

Many thanks, this method sounds suitable to me. I will go the learn
anything about 'bundle'.

Have a nice day!

 
 JN

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Re: Off-line deverloper workflow?

2013-06-27 Thread Tim Chase
On 2013-06-27 20:46, Woody Wu wrote:
 I have a colleague who has to left our office for three month, but
 still need to work on the project which is hosted on our in-office
 git repository. Problem is that our company has firewall, it's not
 possible or not allowed to access the company LAN outside the
 building.  So I want to ask you expert, can you suggest a best
 practice of git workflow that suitable to my situation?

It would help to know a little more about the information flow and
the starting conditions.

- Was a clone of code made before leaving your office or does your
  colleague need to obtain the initial copy too?

- How securely do you need to transfer matters?  (email?  shared
  external service like Dropbox/Box.com/etc)

- How frequently do updates need to be made?

- In which direction do commits flow?  Just from your colleague back
  to the office, or are there other updates happening in the office
  that your colleague needs to pull down to keep in sync?

Without such answers, it's a little hard to suggest more than
transmitting either patch files or bundles using any of the following:
email, a shared cloud drive, a shared host out accessible on the net,
or sneakernet media (flash-drive or CD/DVD, perhaps via the postal
system), or possibly other means.

You may want to read more at

  git help format-patch
  git help am
  git help bundle

-tkc





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Re: Off-line deverloper workflow?

2013-06-27 Thread Jean-Noël Avila

Le 27/06/2013 14:46, Woody Wu a écrit :

Hi,

I have a colleague who has to left our office for three month, but still
need to work on the project which is hosted on our in-office git
repository. Problem is that our company has firewall, it's not possible
or not allowed to access the company LAN outside the building.  So I
want to ask you expert, can you suggest a best practice of git workflow
that suitable to my situation?

Thanks in advance.

-woody

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For a short time, I had the same issue. We came up using git bundle to 
bundle changes and exchange them via email.


The setup was to work in two separate branches. The roaming developper 
started a new branch when leaving. After some work, she sent the commits 
on her branch as a bundle file. The origin merged the branch extracted 
from the developper's bundle and sent back the bundle of the changes on 
origin since the last merge.


No doubt that both side need to understand well the workflow of 
fetch/merge. Bundle files can be encrypted for better security.


Hope this helps.

JN
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Re: Off-line deverloper workflow?

2013-06-27 Thread Junio C Hamano
Jean-Noël Avila avila...@gmail.com writes:

 For a short time, I had the same issue. We came up using git bundle
 to bundle changes and exchange them via email.
 
 The setup was to work in two separate branches. The roaming developper
 started a new branch when leaving. After some work, she sent the
 commits on her branch as a bundle file. The origin merged the branch
 extracted from the developper's bundle and sent back the bundle of the
 changes on origin since the last merge.

 No doubt that both side need to understand well the workflow of
 fetch/merge. Bundle files can be encrypted for better security.

Yes, the above describes exactly what bundle was invented for.
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