Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond and g_rdf in vacuum
On 10/28/13 3:30 AM, Santu Biswas wrote: Not working is too vague a symptom for anyone to guess what the problem is, sorry. Mark On Oct 24, 2013 9:39 AM, Santu Biswas santu.biswa...@gmail.com wrote: dear users, I am performing 500ps mdrun in vacuum for polypeptide(formed by 10-residues leucine) using gromacs_4.5.5(double- precision) using opls-aa/L force field.Input file for 500ps mdrun is given below title= peptide in vaccum cpp= /lib/cpp ; RUN CONTROL integrator = md comm_mode= ANGULAR nsteps = 50 dt= 0.001 ; NEIGHBOR SEARCHING nstlist = 0 ns_type = simple pbc = no rlist = 0 ; OUTPUT CONTROL nstxout = 1000 nstvout = 1000 nstxtcout = 0 nstlog= 1000 constraints = none nstenergy = 1000 ; OPTION FOR ELECTROSTATIC AND VDW rcoulomb = 0 ; Method for doing Van der Waals rvdw= 0 ; OPTIONS FOR WEAK COUPLING ALGORITHMS tcoupl = V-rescale tc_grps= Protein tau_t= 0.1 ref_t = 300 gen_vel= yes gen_temp = 300 Using the 500ps trajectory if i run g_hbond_d for calculating the number of hydrogen bonds as a function of time using index file(where atom O and atom N H is used) it is not working. Also if i used g_rdf_d with pbc=no using the 500ps trajectory it is also not working. I do not know why this is happening. -- santu -- Thanks Mark for your reply. Using the 500ps trajectory i want to calculate the number of hydrogen bonds as a function of time in vacuum .For this calculation i have uesd g_hbond_d -f traj_0-500ps.trr -s 500ps.tpr -n index.ndx -num hbond-num.xvg -dist dist.xvg -ang angle.xvg With what groups? Can there be any hydrogen bonds between those groups? Is there a bug fixed in a version of g_hbond that isn't 2 years old? Did a shorter trajectory work because it took less time? Does doing only one of three analyses help things to work? You'd be much closer to a solution if you'd tried some simplifications and done some detective work already ;-) Programm was running .After 1 hour it was still running but there was no output. If I calculate the number of hydrogen bonds as a function of time in water (no vacuum) using the same command line then there was no problem. Same problem when I used g_rdf in vacuum.The commad line I have used g_rdf_4.5.5 -f traj.trr -s 500ps.tpr -n index.ndx -o rdf.xvg and also checked with -nopbc with the same command line. RDF of what, in vacuum? What groups did you use? The programm is running but in the output file nothing is written. If I used g_rdf in water using the same command line there was no problem. OK - but does your analysis make sense in vacuum? Mark Thanks Mark for your reply In the index file I mentioned C=O oxygen atom and N-H hydrogen atom. Now I want to calculate the distance between O atom and N-H hydrogen atom using g_rdf in vacuum. Similarly using the same index file I want to calculate the number of hydrogen bonds as a function of time in vacuum using g_hbond. Yes there is a H bond between C=O oxygen atom of i-th residue and N-H hydrogen of i+4-th residue. I also checked with shorter trajectory there is also same problem . Please let me know If there are any mistakes. Does your system have a non-zero size? That is, are all the box vectors a somewhat reasonable value? They are, of course, irrelevant for the simulation (assuming pbc = no for in vacuo), but for analysis, you need a sensible box. If you don't, you can recenter the trajectory using trjconv -box -center. -Justin -- == Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Fellow Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences School of Pharmacy Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601 University of Maryland, Baltimore 20 Penn St. Baltimore, MD 21201 jalem...@outerbanks.umaryland.edu | (410) 706-7441 == -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_hbond and g_rdf in vacuum
dear users, I am performing 500ps mdrun in vacuum for polypeptide(formed by 10-residues leucine) using gromacs_4.5.5(double-precision) using opls-aa/L force field.Input file for 500ps mdrun is given below title= peptide in vaccum cpp= /lib/cpp ; RUN CONTROL integrator = md comm_mode= ANGULAR nsteps = 50 dt= 0.001 ; NEIGHBOR SEARCHING nstlist = 0 ns_type = simple pbc = no rlist = 0 ; OUTPUT CONTROL nstxout = 1000 nstvout = 1000 nstxtcout = 0 nstlog= 1000 constraints = none nstenergy = 1000 ; OPTION FOR ELECTROSTATIC AND VDW rcoulomb = 0 ; Method for doing Van der Waals rvdw= 0 ; OPTIONS FOR WEAK COUPLING ALGORITHMS tcoupl = V-rescale tc_grps= Protein tau_t= 0.1 ref_t = 300 gen_vel= yes gen_temp = 300 Using the 500ps trajectory if i run g_hbond_d for calculating the number of hydrogen bonds as a function of time using index file(where atom O and atom N H is used) it is not working. Also if i used g_rdf_d with pbc=no using the 500ps trajectory it is also not working. I do not know why this is happening. -- santu -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond and g_rdf in vacuum
Not working is too vague a symptom for anyone to guess what the problem is, sorry. Mark On Oct 24, 2013 9:39 AM, Santu Biswas santu.biswa...@gmail.com wrote: dear users, I am performing 500ps mdrun in vacuum for polypeptide(formed by 10-residues leucine) using gromacs_4.5.5(double-precision) using opls-aa/L force field.Input file for 500ps mdrun is given below title= peptide in vaccum cpp= /lib/cpp ; RUN CONTROL integrator = md comm_mode= ANGULAR nsteps = 50 dt= 0.001 ; NEIGHBOR SEARCHING nstlist = 0 ns_type = simple pbc = no rlist = 0 ; OUTPUT CONTROL nstxout = 1000 nstvout = 1000 nstxtcout = 0 nstlog= 1000 constraints = none nstenergy = 1000 ; OPTION FOR ELECTROSTATIC AND VDW rcoulomb = 0 ; Method for doing Van der Waals rvdw= 0 ; OPTIONS FOR WEAK COUPLING ALGORITHMS tcoupl = V-rescale tc_grps= Protein tau_t= 0.1 ref_t = 300 gen_vel= yes gen_temp = 300 Using the 500ps trajectory if i run g_hbond_d for calculating the number of hydrogen bonds as a function of time using index file(where atom O and atom N H is used) it is not working. Also if i used g_rdf_d with pbc=no using the 500ps trajectory it is also not working. I do not know why this is happening. -- santu -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond for trajectory without having box information
According to the suggestion I added the box to the trajectory using -box option of trjconv, using the following commands: trjconv -f traj.xtc -s md.tpr -box 0.9 0.9 0.9 -o traj_box.xtc then using the g_hbond on the output trjectory (traj_box.xtc) run successfully but gives the wrong number of H-bonds between the proteins atoms. I have also tried to process the output trajectory (traj_box.xtc) with trjconv using -pbc mol -ur compact options before using g_hbond, but again I have got wrong number of H-bonds. Please help me to rectify the error. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:19 AM, bipin singh bipinel...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot Prof. David. I will try this. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:45 AM, David van der Spoel sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote: On 2013-07-19 06:26, bipin singh wrote: Hello all, I was using g_hbond to calculate H-bonds for a trajectory made from several individual snapshots from MD simulation, but because this trajectory does not have the coordinates/information for simulation box, g_hbond is giving the following error: Fatal error: Your computational box has shrunk too much. g_hbond_mpi can not handle this situation, sorry. Please let me know, if there is any way to rectify this error. you can add a box to your trajectory using trjconv. -- David van der Spoel, Ph.D., Professor of Biology Dept. of Cell Molec. Biol., Uppsala University. Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Sweden. Phone: +46184714205. sp...@xray.bmc.uu.sehttp://folding.bmc.uu.se -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/**mailman/listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/** Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchhttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchbefore posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/**Support/Mailing_Listshttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- *--- Thanks and Regards, Bipin Singh* -- *--- Thanks and Regards, Bipin Singh* -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond for trajectory without having box information
On 7/19/13 4:17 AM, bipin singh wrote: According to the suggestion I added the box to the trajectory using -box option of trjconv, using the following commands: trjconv -f traj.xtc -s md.tpr -box 0.9 0.9 0.9 -o traj_box.xtc then using the g_hbond on the output trjectory (traj_box.xtc) run successfully but gives the wrong number of H-bonds between the proteins atoms. I have also tried to process the output trajectory (traj_box.xtc) with trjconv using -pbc mol -ur compact options before using g_hbond, but again I have got wrong number of H-bonds. Please help me to rectify the error. A 0.9-nm cubic box is likely too small to correctly accommodate even an amino acid, let alone an entire protein. -Justin On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:19 AM, bipin singh bipinel...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot Prof. David. I will try this. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:45 AM, David van der Spoel sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote: On 2013-07-19 06:26, bipin singh wrote: Hello all, I was using g_hbond to calculate H-bonds for a trajectory made from several individual snapshots from MD simulation, but because this trajectory does not have the coordinates/information for simulation box, g_hbond is giving the following error: Fatal error: Your computational box has shrunk too much. g_hbond_mpi can not handle this situation, sorry. Please let me know, if there is any way to rectify this error. you can add a box to your trajectory using trjconv. -- David van der Spoel, Ph.D., Professor of Biology Dept. of Cell Molec. Biol., Uppsala University. Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Sweden. Phone: +46184714205. sp...@xray.bmc.uu.sehttp://folding.bmc.uu.se -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/**mailman/listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/** Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchhttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchbefore posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/**Support/Mailing_Listshttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- *--- Thanks and Regards, Bipin Singh* -- == Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Fellow Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences School of Pharmacy Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601 University of Maryland, Baltimore 20 Penn St. Baltimore, MD 21201 jalem...@outerbanks.umaryland.edu | (410) 706-7441 == -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond for trajectory without having box information
Sorry for my silly mistake. I have a doubt regarding the expected difference in total No. of H-bonds calculated with whole a MD trajectory (protein+solvent box) and H-bonds calculated with concatenated frames (only protein) from a MD trajectory. I mean, will the number of H-bonds present at a particular time in a MD trajectory (protein+solvent), should be exactly same as number of H-bonds calculated using trajectory made of concatenated frames (only protein) from (if we look at number of H-bonds present at same point of time in both). Because I am not getting the exact match between the two, there is random difference of 1-3 H-bonds at some point of time. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote: On 7/19/13 4:17 AM, bipin singh wrote: According to the suggestion I added the box to the trajectory using -box option of trjconv, using the following commands: trjconv -f traj.xtc -s md.tpr -box 0.9 0.9 0.9 -o traj_box.xtc then using the g_hbond on the output trjectory (traj_box.xtc) run successfully but gives the wrong number of H-bonds between the proteins atoms. I have also tried to process the output trajectory (traj_box.xtc) with trjconv using -pbc mol -ur compact options before using g_hbond, but again I have got wrong number of H-bonds. Please help me to rectify the error. A 0.9-nm cubic box is likely too small to correctly accommodate even an amino acid, let alone an entire protein. -Justin On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:19 AM, bipin singh bipinel...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot Prof. David. I will try this. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:45 AM, David van der Spoel sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote: On 2013-07-19 06:26, bipin singh wrote: Hello all, I was using g_hbond to calculate H-bonds for a trajectory made from several individual snapshots from MD simulation, but because this trajectory does not have the coordinates/information for simulation box, g_hbond is giving the following error: Fatal error: Your computational box has shrunk too much. g_hbond_mpi can not handle this situation, sorry. Please let me know, if there is any way to rectify this error. you can add a box to your trajectory using trjconv. -- David van der Spoel, Ph.D., Professor of Biology Dept. of Cell Molec. Biol., Uppsala University. Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Sweden. Phone: +46184714205. sp...@xray.bmc.uu.sehttp://folding.bmc.uu.se -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/**mailman/listinfo/gmx-users htt**p://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/**listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/** Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchh**ttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/** Mailing_Lists/Searchhttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchbefore posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Listshttp://www.gromacs.org/**Support/Mailing_Lists http://**www.gromacs.org/Support/**Mailing_Listshttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- *--- Thanks and Regards, Bipin Singh* -- ==** Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Fellow Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences School of Pharmacy Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601 University of Maryland, Baltimore 20 Penn St. Baltimore, MD 21201 jalemkul@outerbanks.umaryland.**edu jalem...@outerbanks.umaryland.edu | (410) 706-7441 ==** -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/**mailman/listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/** Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchhttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchbefore posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/**Support/Mailing_Listshttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- *--- Thanks and Regards, Bipin Singh* -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond for trajectory without having box information
On 7/19/13 6:55 AM, bipin singh wrote: Sorry for my silly mistake. I have a doubt regarding the expected difference in total No. of H-bonds calculated with whole a MD trajectory (protein+solvent box) and H-bonds calculated with concatenated frames (only protein) from a MD trajectory. I mean, will the number of H-bonds present at a particular time in a MD trajectory (protein+solvent), should be exactly same as number of H-bonds calculated using trajectory made of concatenated frames (only protein) from (if we look at number of H-bonds present at same point of time in both). Because I am not getting the exact match between the two, there is random difference of 1-3 H-bonds at some point of time. I suspect that the issue stems from having to manually set the box. I don't understand why you would have to do this after running a simulation in explicit solvent. Did you just extract the protein coordinates from the explicit simulation? If so, I don't see how the box information would be omitted. You can get spurious H-bonds across PBC if you are manually setting a bad box size in a given frame or series of frames. Without the exact sequence of commands from what you have done, it's pure guesswork. -Justin On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote: On 7/19/13 4:17 AM, bipin singh wrote: According to the suggestion I added the box to the trajectory using -box option of trjconv, using the following commands: trjconv -f traj.xtc -s md.tpr -box 0.9 0.9 0.9 -o traj_box.xtc then using the g_hbond on the output trjectory (traj_box.xtc) run successfully but gives the wrong number of H-bonds between the proteins atoms. I have also tried to process the output trajectory (traj_box.xtc) with trjconv using -pbc mol -ur compact options before using g_hbond, but again I have got wrong number of H-bonds. Please help me to rectify the error. A 0.9-nm cubic box is likely too small to correctly accommodate even an amino acid, let alone an entire protein. -Justin On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:19 AM, bipin singh bipinel...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot Prof. David. I will try this. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:45 AM, David van der Spoel sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote: On 2013-07-19 06:26, bipin singh wrote: Hello all, I was using g_hbond to calculate H-bonds for a trajectory made from several individual snapshots from MD simulation, but because this trajectory does not have the coordinates/information for simulation box, g_hbond is giving the following error: Fatal error: Your computational box has shrunk too much. g_hbond_mpi can not handle this situation, sorry. Please let me know, if there is any way to rectify this error. you can add a box to your trajectory using trjconv. -- David van der Spoel, Ph.D., Professor of Biology Dept. of Cell Molec. Biol., Uppsala University. Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Sweden. Phone: +46184714205. sp...@xray.bmc.uu.sehttp://folding.bmc.uu.se -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/**mailman/listinfo/gmx-users htt**p://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/**listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/** Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchh**ttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/** Mailing_Lists/Searchhttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchbefore posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Listshttp://www.gromacs.org/**Support/Mailing_Lists http://**www.gromacs.org/Support/**Mailing_Listshttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- *--- Thanks and Regards, Bipin Singh* -- ==** Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Fellow Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences School of Pharmacy Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601 University of Maryland, Baltimore 20 Penn St. Baltimore, MD 21201 jalemkul@outerbanks.umaryland.**edu jalem...@outerbanks.umaryland.edu | (410) 706-7441 ==** -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/**mailman/listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/** Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchhttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchbefore posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/**Support/Mailing_Listshttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- == Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Fellow Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences School of Pharmacy Health
[gmx-users] g_hbond for trajectory without having box information
Hello all, I was using g_hbond to calculate H-bonds for a trajectory made from several individual snapshots from MD simulation, but because this trajectory does not have the coordinates/information for simulation box, g_hbond is giving the following error: Fatal error: Your computational box has shrunk too much. g_hbond_mpi can not handle this situation, sorry. Please let me know, if there is any way to rectify this error. -- *--- Thanks and Regards, Bipin Singh* -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond for trajectory without having box information
On 2013-07-19 06:26, bipin singh wrote: Hello all, I was using g_hbond to calculate H-bonds for a trajectory made from several individual snapshots from MD simulation, but because this trajectory does not have the coordinates/information for simulation box, g_hbond is giving the following error: Fatal error: Your computational box has shrunk too much. g_hbond_mpi can not handle this situation, sorry. Please let me know, if there is any way to rectify this error. you can add a box to your trajectory using trjconv. -- David van der Spoel, Ph.D., Professor of Biology Dept. of Cell Molec. Biol., Uppsala University. Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Sweden. Phone: +46184714205. sp...@xray.bmc.uu.sehttp://folding.bmc.uu.se -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond for trajectory without having box information
Thanks a lot Prof. David. I will try this. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:45 AM, David van der Spoel sp...@xray.bmc.uu.sewrote: On 2013-07-19 06:26, bipin singh wrote: Hello all, I was using g_hbond to calculate H-bonds for a trajectory made from several individual snapshots from MD simulation, but because this trajectory does not have the coordinates/information for simulation box, g_hbond is giving the following error: Fatal error: Your computational box has shrunk too much. g_hbond_mpi can not handle this situation, sorry. Please let me know, if there is any way to rectify this error. you can add a box to your trajectory using trjconv. -- David van der Spoel, Ph.D., Professor of Biology Dept. of Cell Molec. Biol., Uppsala University. Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Sweden. Phone: +46184714205. sp...@xray.bmc.uu.sehttp://folding.bmc.uu.se -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/**mailman/listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/** Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchhttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchbefore posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/**Support/Mailing_Listshttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- *--- Thanks and Regards, Bipin Singh* -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_hbond
# This file was created Fri May 24 13:03:14 2013 # by the following command: # g_hbond -f traj_all_md.trr -s md_0_1_next1.tpr -num bovin_hnum.xvg # # g_hbond is part of G R O M A C S: # # Green Red Orange Magenta Azure Cyan Skyblue # @title Hydrogen Bonds @xaxis label Time (ps) @yaxis label Number @TYPE xy @ view 0.15, 0.15, 0.75, 0.85 @ legend on @ legend box on @ legend loctype view @ legend 0.78, 0.8 @ legend length 2 @ s0 legend Hydrogen bonds @ s1 legend Pairs within 0.35 nm 0 74 517 2 73 515 4 69 515 6 69 529 8 78 525 10 74 517 12 68 516 14 68 524 16 71 520 hi, anybody can tell me at here if Hydrogen bonds Refers to the middle column: 74,73,69,69,78,74,68,68,71 Thank you ! maggin -- View this message in context: http://gromacs.5086.x6.nabble.com/g-hbond-tp5008507.html Sent from the GROMACS Users Forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
Hi Maggin, The middle column is the total number of hydrogen bonds in your system under the definition of the hydrogen bonds criteria you have defined (here you used the default value). The third column is the number of acceptor-donor paris in the system. The first column is the simulation time, your trajectory file are saved every 2 ps right? If you use xmgrace bovin_hnum.xvg, you can easily find what's the meaning of the second and third column. Pan 2013/5/24 maggin maggin.c...@gmail.com # This file was created Fri May 24 13:03:14 2013 # by the following command: # g_hbond -f traj_all_md.trr -s md_0_1_next1.tpr -num bovin_hnum.xvg # # g_hbond is part of G R O M A C S: # # Green Red Orange Magenta Azure Cyan Skyblue # @title Hydrogen Bonds @xaxis label Time (ps) @yaxis label Number @TYPE xy @ view 0.15, 0.15, 0.75, 0.85 @ legend on @ legend box on @ legend loctype view @ legend 0.78, 0.8 @ legend length 2 @ s0 legend Hydrogen bonds @ s1 legend Pairs within 0.35 nm 0 74 517 2 73 515 4 69 515 6 69 529 8 78 525 10 74 517 12 68 516 14 68 524 16 71 520 hi, anybody can tell me at here if Hydrogen bonds Refers to the middle column: 74,73,69,69,78,74,68,68,71 Thank you ! maggin -- View this message in context: http://gromacs.5086.x6.nabble.com/g-hbond-tp5008507.html Sent from the GROMACS Users Forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
Hi, Just to clarify: The third column are the number of acceptor-donor pairs that fulfil the distance criterion but not the angle criterion. Erik On 24 May 2013, at 09:06, CHEN Pan evan.pan.c...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Maggin, The middle column is the total number of hydrogen bonds in your system under the definition of the hydrogen bonds criteria you have defined (here you used the default value). The third column is the number of acceptor-donor paris in the system. The first column is the simulation time, your trajectory file are saved every 2 ps right? If you use xmgrace bovin_hnum.xvg, you can easily find what's the meaning of the second and third column. Pan 2013/5/24 maggin maggin.c...@gmail.com # This file was created Fri May 24 13:03:14 2013 # by the following command: # g_hbond -f traj_all_md.trr -s md_0_1_next1.tpr -num bovin_hnum.xvg # # g_hbond is part of G R O M A C S: # # Green Red Orange Magenta Azure Cyan Skyblue # @title Hydrogen Bonds @xaxis label Time (ps) @yaxis label Number @TYPE xy @ view 0.15, 0.15, 0.75, 0.85 @ legend on @ legend box on @ legend loctype view @ legend 0.78, 0.8 @ legend length 2 @ s0 legend Hydrogen bonds @ s1 legend Pairs within 0.35 nm 0 74 517 2 73 515 4 69 515 6 69 529 8 78 525 10 74 517 12 68 516 14 68 524 16 71 520 hi, anybody can tell me at here if Hydrogen bonds Refers to the middle column: 74,73,69,69,78,74,68,68,71 Thank you ! maggin -- View this message in context: http://gromacs.5086.x6.nabble.com/g-hbond-tp5008507.html Sent from the GROMACS Users Forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_hbond : autocorrelation funciton
Hello, I am calculating the hyrogen bond life time my system using g_hbond in Gromacs. Program calculate the hydrogen bond life time from the autocorrelation function. Program calculate the hydrogen bond autocorrelation function with the hydrogen bond criteria. What quantity program use such as distance between donor-acceptor, to calculate the autocorrelation function? Thanks Nilesh -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond : autocorrelation funciton
On 4/14/13 7:21 PM, Nilesh Dhumal wrote: Hello, I am calculating the hyrogen bond life time my system using g_hbond in Gromacs. Program calculate the hydrogen bond life time from the autocorrelation function. Program calculate the hydrogen bond autocorrelation function with the hydrogen bond criteria. What quantity program use such as distance between donor-acceptor, to calculate the autocorrelation function? This is an adjustable option. Please read g_hbond -h. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond : autocorrelation funciton
-ac: average over all autocorrelations of the existence functions (either 0 or 1) of all hydrogen bonds. Program collect the data 0 or 1 along time? nilesh On 4/14/13 7:21 PM, Nilesh Dhumal wrote: Hello, I am calculating the hyrogen bond life time my system using g_hbond in Gromacs. Program calculate the hydrogen bond life time from the autocorrelation function. Program calculate the hydrogen bond autocorrelation function with the hydrogen bond criteria. What quantity program use such as distance between donor-acceptor, to calculate the autocorrelation function? This is an adjustable option. Please read g_hbond -h. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond : autocorrelation funciton
On 4/14/13 8:00 PM, Nilesh Dhumal wrote: -ac: average over all autocorrelations of the existence functions (either 0 or 1) of all hydrogen bonds. Program collect the data 0 or 1 along time? The presence of a hydrogen bond is a binary function. Either it exists (1) or does not (0). Whether or not a hydrogen bond exists depends on distance and angle criteria. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_hbond
Hello, I am calculating the hydrogen bond life time for my system, ionic liquids. I am calculating the hydrogen bond life time using g_hbond in Groamcs. Attached the plot p(t)vs time and the exponential decay is not sooth. Can you tell why is there is lot of noise. Nilesh -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
Yes. On 3 Apr 2013, at 04:07, Nilesh Dhumal ndhu...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote: Hello, I am calculating the hydrogen bond life time for my system. Do program consider the hydrogen bond criteria for calculation of autocorrelation function? Nilesh -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_hbond
Hello, I am calculating the hydrogen bond life time for my system. Do program consider the hydrogen bond criteria for calculation of autocorrelation function? Nilesh -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond and contact
To clarify: the -hbn output is not very indicative of how many contacts there were since some of them could be present in one frame but absent in 99. The -num option, however, provides the number of contacts over time, and its time average probably tells you much more in this case. What version of g_hbond are you using? I remember there were several bugfixes over the last 6 months or so. With the latest version(s) I believe that the -merge flag has no effect on contact analysis, which is correct. Erik On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:20 AM, Kavyashree M wrote: I am sorry There is no 7ws Its a typographic error. What I wanted to ask was - I am comparing two simulations S1 and S2 for contacts at a given cut off I used g_mdmat and g_hbond to calculate it. g_hbond outputs: of -num and -hbn was considered. 1. -hbn output was analysed to calculate how many contacts each atom has from both S1 and S2. 2. -num output graph was compared from both S1 and S2. g_mdmat output: of -no was considered. 3. -no output was analysed from both S1 and S2 using the third column or the second Y value which gives total contacts of each atom. It was observed that 1 and 3 matched exactly giving the same number of contacts each atom has (in the whole simulations). indicating that the number of contacts each atom has was more in S2 than S1. But the graph from 2 indicated that the number of contacts (along the trajectory) in S1 was higher than S2. My doubt is: The number of contact per atom follows S2 S1 while number of contacts per time follows S1 S2. I am unclear as to what I have to conclude from this observations. - I used the same cutoff throughout. - There has not been any swapping of the trajectory while analysing. Thank you Kavya On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 1:09 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote: On 3/4/13 1:10 PM, Kavyashree M wrote: On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote: When measuring contacts, you don't measure one group, you measure the number of contacts that occur between groups A and B, which considers all atoms in those two groups. I gave a group of hydrophobic atoms in both cases The command I gave - g_hbond_46 -fx.xtc-s x.tpr-contact -n x.ndx - r 0.4 -hbm o.xpm -hbn o.ndx -num o.xvg my index file contained a group of hydrophobic atoms. which I supplied in the x.ndx. You don't define contacts in an index group, you define atoms that may or may not make contacts with others. The one I mentioned here is the output index file from the g_hbond (4.6 version) - o.ndx. [ contacts_C_CA_CB_CD_CD1_CD2_CE_CE1_CE2_CE3_CG_CG1_CG2_CZ_*** *CZ2_CZ3_CH2 ] 5 7ws 5 10 5 14 5 18 5 22 5 24 5 27 5 30 5 35 5292 5296 530 There's something very wrong with this index file. How did you generate it? The presence of a repeated atom number (5) and a nonsensical one (7ws) leads me to believe that you've done something incorrect. Did this come from g_hbond? It looks like the output of -hbn, which is only useful for decoding hbmap.xpm, nothing else. I did not generate this. The tool (g_hbond) generated this index file. It is the -hbn output. OK, then I still don't know what 7ws is, but the only purpose for this file is to provide a key to the existence matrix in hbmap.xpm. Your previous description indicated that you were using it for some other analysis, which would not be appropriate. The other thing worth mentioning here is something that was posted to the list just a few hours ago, that the output of g_hbond -contact may not agree with other methods of calculating contacts, especially in the case of -merge vs. -nomerge. -Justin From this second section Total contacts was extracted for each atom and compared with that from a second simulation. These contacts was matching with the contacts of the 3rd column from g_mdmat output - @ legend string 0 Total/mean @ legend string 1 Total @ legend string 2 Mean @ legend string 3 # atoms @ legend string 4 Mean/# atoms #resratio tot mean natm mean/atm 1 1.001 1110.991110.991 2 1.244 10 8.0411 8.041 3 1.166 1311.147111.147 4 1.036 1110.615110.615 While the time dependent contacts in the xvg file shows that the first simulation has more contacts than the second one.. That shouldn't be unexpected. Two independent simulations have no guarantee of doing the same thing, that's why sampling is so important. Thank you kavya -- ==**== Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540)
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond and contact
Sir, I used gromacs 4.6. I got the point - index file will tell how many contacts an atom has made during the trajectory. Whether it has made a contact with an atom only in once or all the time, in the whole trajectory, it will be mentioned. Am I right? So from the problem I had, can I say that no. of contact/atom had increased in S2 while the no. of contact/time decreased? Its a bit confusing though! Thank you kavya On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote: To clarify: the -hbn output is not very indicative of how many contacts there were since some of them could be present in one frame but absent in 99. The -num option, however, provides the number of contacts over time, and its time average probably tells you much more in this case. What version of g_hbond are you using? I remember there were several bugfixes over the last 6 months or so. With the latest version(s) I believe that the -merge flag has no effect on contact analysis, which is correct. Erik -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond and contact
On Mar 5, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Kavyashree M wrote: Sir, I used gromacs 4.6. I got the point - index file will tell how many contacts an atom has made during the trajectory. Whether it has made a contact with an atom only in once or all the time, in the whole trajectory, it will be mentioned. Am I right? Yes. So from the problem I had, can I say that no. of contact/atom had increased in S2 while the no. of contact/time decreased? That depends. If 'contact' means unique interactions and 'atom' means e.g. all atoms in in your system, then yes. Its a bit confusing though! Thank you kavya On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote: To clarify: the -hbn output is not very indicative of how many contacts there were since some of them could be present in one frame but absent in 99. The -num option, however, provides the number of contacts over time, and its time average probably tells you much more in this case. What version of g_hbond are you using? I remember there were several bugfixes over the last 6 months or so. With the latest version(s) I believe that the -merge flag has no effect on contact analysis, which is correct. Erik -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond and contact
Thank you Sir. On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote: On Mar 5, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Kavyashree M wrote: Sir, I used gromacs 4.6. I got the point - index file will tell how many contacts an atom has made during the trajectory. Whether it has made a contact with an atom only in once or all the time, in the whole trajectory, it will be mentioned. Am I right? Yes. So from the problem I had, can I say that no. of contact/atom had increased in S2 while the no. of contact/time decreased? That depends. If 'contact' means unique interactions and 'atom' means e.g. all atoms in in your system, then yes. Its a bit confusing though! Thank you kavya On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote: To clarify: the -hbn output is not very indicative of how many contacts there were since some of them could be present in one frame but absent in 99. The -num option, however, provides the number of contacts over time, and its time average probably tells you much more in this case. What version of g_hbond are you using? I remember there were several bugfixes over the last 6 months or so. With the latest version(s) I believe that the -merge flag has no effect on contact analysis, which is correct. Erik -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/**mailman/listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/** Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchhttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchbefore posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/**Support/Mailing_Listshttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/**mailman/listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/** Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchhttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchbefore posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use thewww interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/**Support/Mailing_Listshttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_hbond and contact
Dear users, I used the following tool for finding the contacts g_hbond_46 -f a.xtc -s a.tpr -contact -n a.ndx -r 0.4 -hbm a.xpm -hbn a.ndx -num a.xvg From the index file, the number of contacts of each atom was extracted. This and the xvg output was compared with another simulation. It was found that the number of contacts was more in 2nd simulation compared to the first. But When I compared xvg file it was showing the opposite behaviour. The contacts was also calculated using g_mdmat for the same cutoff and it was agreeing with the numbers I got from in index output of g_hbond. Why is this difference in index and xvg output? Also the xvg file looks like - s0 legend Contacts @ s1 legend Pairs within 0.4 nm 40007496 0 40027513 0 40047605 0 40067531 0 40087573 0 40107546 0 40127544 0 40147526 0 40167530 0 40187496 0 40207526 0 .. Thank you kavya -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond and contact
On 3/4/13 11:25 AM, Kavyashree M wrote: Dear users, I used the following tool for finding the contacts g_hbond_46 -f a.xtc -s a.tpr -contact -n a.ndx -r 0.4 -hbm a.xpm -hbn a.ndx -num a.xvg From the index file, the number of contacts of each atom was extracted. This and the xvg output was compared with another simulation. It was found that the number of contacts was more in 2nd simulation compared to the first. But When I compared xvg file it was showing the opposite behaviour. These statements don't make any sense. How did you determine that the number of contacts in simulation 2 was greater than simulation 1, but then the .xvg files showed the opposite? The number of contacts come from the .xvg files? Perhaps you simply swapped your files during analysis. The contacts was also calculated using g_mdmat for the same cutoff and it was agreeing with the numbers I got from in index output of g_hbond. Why is this difference in index and xvg output? An index group is a list of atom numbers. The .xvg output is whatever you tell it to be, in this case, the number of contacts within the group selected. -Justin Also the xvg file looks like - s0 legend Contacts @ s1 legend Pairs within 0.4 nm 40007496 0 40027513 0 40047605 0 40067531 0 40087573 0 40107546 0 40127544 0 40147526 0 40167530 0 40187496 0 40207526 0 .. Thank you kavya -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond and contact
Sir, From Index file which gives the unique contacts - First section the list of atoms I want to analyse [ C_CA_CB_CD_CD1_CD2_CE_CE1_CE2_CE3_CG_CG1_CG2_CZ_CZ2_CZ3_CH2 ] second section : the unique contacts of each atoms with others [ contacts_C_CA_CB_CD_CD1_CD2_CE_CE1_CE2_CE3_CG_CG1_CG2_CZ_CZ2_CZ3_CH2 ] 5 7ws 5 10 5 14 5 18 5 22 5 24 5 27 5 30 5 35 5292 5296 530 From this second section Total contacts was extracted for each atom and compared with that from a second simulation. These contacts was matching with the contacts of the 3rd column from g_mdmat output - @ legend string 0 Total/mean @ legend string 1 Total @ legend string 2 Mean @ legend string 3 # atoms @ legend string 4 Mean/# atoms #resratio tot mean natm mean/atm 1 1.001 1110.991110.991 2 1.244 10 8.0411 8.041 3 1.166 1311.147111.147 4 1.036 1110.615110.615 While the time dependent contacts in the xvg file shows that the first simulation has more contacts than the second one.. I hope I am clear this time. Thank you kavya On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote: On 3/4/13 11:25 AM, Kavyashree M wrote: Dear users, I used the following tool for finding the contacts g_hbond_46 -f a.xtc -s a.tpr -contact -n a.ndx -r 0.4 -hbm a.xpm -hbn a.ndx -num a.xvg From the index file, the number of contacts of each atom was extracted. This and the xvg output was compared with another simulation. It was found that the number of contacts was more in 2nd simulation compared to the first. But When I compared xvg file it was showing the opposite behaviour. These statements don't make any sense. How did you determine that the number of contacts in simulation 2 was greater than simulation 1, but then the .xvg files showed the opposite? The number of contacts come from the .xvg files? Perhaps you simply swapped your files during analysis. The contacts was also calculated using g_mdmat for the same cutoff and it was agreeing with the numbers I got from in index output of g_hbond. Why is this difference in index and xvg output? An index group is a list of atom numbers. The .xvg output is whatever you tell it to be, in this case, the number of contacts within the group selected. -Justin Also the xvg file looks like - s0 legend Contacts @ s1 legend Pairs within 0.4 nm 40007496 0 40027513 0 40047605 0 40067531 0 40087573 0 40107546 0 40127544 0 40147526 0 40167530 0 40187496 0 40207526 0 .. Thank you kavya -- ==**== Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.**vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justinhttp://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin ==**== -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/**mailman/listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/** Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchhttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchbefore posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/**Support/Mailing_Listshttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond and contact
On 3/4/13 12:04 PM, Kavyashree M wrote: Sir, From Index file which gives the unique contacts - First section the list of atoms I want to analyse When measuring contacts, you don't measure one group, you measure the number of contacts that occur between groups A and B, which considers all atoms in those two groups. [ C_CA_CB_CD_CD1_CD2_CE_CE1_CE2_CE3_CG_CG1_CG2_CZ_CZ2_CZ3_CH2 ] second section : the unique contacts of each atoms with others You don't define contacts in an index group, you define atoms that may or may not make contacts with others. [ contacts_C_CA_CB_CD_CD1_CD2_CE_CE1_CE2_CE3_CG_CG1_CG2_CZ_CZ2_CZ3_CH2 ] 5 7ws 5 10 5 14 5 18 5 22 5 24 5 27 5 30 5 35 5292 5296 530 There's something very wrong with this index file. How did you generate it? The presence of a repeated atom number (5) and a nonsensical one (7ws) leads me to believe that you've done something incorrect. Did this come from g_hbond? It looks like the output of -hbn, which is only useful for decoding hbmap.xpm, nothing else. From this second section Total contacts was extracted for each atom and compared with that from a second simulation. These contacts was matching with the contacts of the 3rd column from g_mdmat output - @ legend string 0 Total/mean @ legend string 1 Total @ legend string 2 Mean @ legend string 3 # atoms @ legend string 4 Mean/# atoms #resratio tot mean natm mean/atm 1 1.001 1110.991110.991 2 1.244 10 8.0411 8.041 3 1.166 1311.147111.147 4 1.036 1110.615110.615 While the time dependent contacts in the xvg file shows that the first simulation has more contacts than the second one.. That shouldn't be unexpected. Two independent simulations have no guarantee of doing the same thing, that's why sampling is so important. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond and contact
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote: When measuring contacts, you don't measure one group, you measure the number of contacts that occur between groups A and B, which considers all atoms in those two groups. I gave a group of hydrophobic atoms in both cases The command I gave - g_hbond_46 -fx.xtc-s x.tpr-contact -n x.ndx -r 0.4 -hbm o.xpm -hbn o.ndx -num o.xvg my index file contained a group of hydrophobic atoms. which I supplied in the x.ndx. You don't define contacts in an index group, you define atoms that may or may not make contacts with others. The one I mentioned here is the output index file from the g_hbond (4.6 version) - o.ndx. [ contacts_C_CA_CB_CD_CD1_CD2_**CE_CE1_CE2_CE3_CG_CG1_CG2_CZ_**CZ2_CZ3_CH2 ] 5 7ws 5 10 5 14 5 18 5 22 5 24 5 27 5 30 5 35 5292 5296 530 There's something very wrong with this index file. How did you generate it? The presence of a repeated atom number (5) and a nonsensical one (7ws) leads me to believe that you've done something incorrect. Did this come from g_hbond? It looks like the output of -hbn, which is only useful for decoding hbmap.xpm, nothing else. I did not generate this. The tool (g_hbond) generated this index file. It is the -hbn output. From this second section Total contacts was extracted for each atom and compared with that from a second simulation. These contacts was matching with the contacts of the 3rd column from g_mdmat output - @ legend string 0 Total/mean @ legend string 1 Total @ legend string 2 Mean @ legend string 3 # atoms @ legend string 4 Mean/# atoms #resratio tot mean natm mean/atm 1 1.001 1110.991110.991 2 1.244 10 8.0411 8.041 3 1.166 1311.147111.147 4 1.036 1110.615110.615 While the time dependent contacts in the xvg file shows that the first simulation has more contacts than the second one.. That shouldn't be unexpected. Two independent simulations have no guarantee of doing the same thing, that's why sampling is so important. Thank you kavya -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond and contact
On 3/4/13 1:10 PM, Kavyashree M wrote: On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote: When measuring contacts, you don't measure one group, you measure the number of contacts that occur between groups A and B, which considers all atoms in those two groups. I gave a group of hydrophobic atoms in both cases The command I gave - g_hbond_46 -fx.xtc-s x.tpr-contact -n x.ndx -r 0.4 -hbm o.xpm -hbn o.ndx -num o.xvg my index file contained a group of hydrophobic atoms. which I supplied in the x.ndx. You don't define contacts in an index group, you define atoms that may or may not make contacts with others. The one I mentioned here is the output index file from the g_hbond (4.6 version) - o.ndx. [ contacts_C_CA_CB_CD_CD1_CD2_**CE_CE1_CE2_CE3_CG_CG1_CG2_CZ_**CZ2_CZ3_CH2 ] 5 7ws 5 10 5 14 5 18 5 22 5 24 5 27 5 30 5 35 5292 5296 530 There's something very wrong with this index file. How did you generate it? The presence of a repeated atom number (5) and a nonsensical one (7ws) leads me to believe that you've done something incorrect. Did this come from g_hbond? It looks like the output of -hbn, which is only useful for decoding hbmap.xpm, nothing else. I did not generate this. The tool (g_hbond) generated this index file. It is the -hbn output. OK, then I still don't know what 7ws is, but the only purpose for this file is to provide a key to the existence matrix in hbmap.xpm. Your previous description indicated that you were using it for some other analysis, which would not be appropriate. The other thing worth mentioning here is something that was posted to the list just a few hours ago, that the output of g_hbond -contact may not agree with other methods of calculating contacts, especially in the case of -merge vs. -nomerge. -Justin From this second section Total contacts was extracted for each atom and compared with that from a second simulation. These contacts was matching with the contacts of the 3rd column from g_mdmat output - @ legend string 0 Total/mean @ legend string 1 Total @ legend string 2 Mean @ legend string 3 # atoms @ legend string 4 Mean/# atoms #resratio tot mean natm mean/atm 1 1.001 1110.991110.991 2 1.244 10 8.0411 8.041 3 1.166 1311.147111.147 4 1.036 1110.615110.615 While the time dependent contacts in the xvg file shows that the first simulation has more contacts than the second one.. That shouldn't be unexpected. Two independent simulations have no guarantee of doing the same thing, that's why sampling is so important. Thank you kavya -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond and contact
I am sorry There is no 7ws Its a typographic error. What I wanted to ask was - I am comparing two simulations S1 and S2 for contacts at a given cut off I used g_mdmat and g_hbond to calculate it. g_hbond outputs: of -num and -hbn was considered. 1. -hbn output was analysed to calculate how many contacts each atom has from both S1 and S2. 2. -num output graph was compared from both S1 and S2. g_mdmat output: of -no was considered. 3. -no output was analysed from both S1 and S2 using the third column or the second Y value which gives total contacts of each atom. It was observed that 1 and 3 matched exactly giving the same number of contacts each atom has (in the whole simulations). indicating that the number of contacts each atom has was more in S2 than S1. But the graph from 2 indicated that the number of contacts (along the trajectory) in S1 was higher than S2. My doubt is: The number of contact per atom follows S2 S1 while number of contacts per time follows S1 S2. I am unclear as to what I have to conclude from this observations. - I used the same cutoff throughout. - There has not been any swapping of the trajectory while analysing. Thank you Kavya On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 1:09 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote: On 3/4/13 1:10 PM, Kavyashree M wrote: On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote: When measuring contacts, you don't measure one group, you measure the number of contacts that occur between groups A and B, which considers all atoms in those two groups. I gave a group of hydrophobic atoms in both cases The command I gave - g_hbond_46 -fx.xtc-s x.tpr-contact -n x.ndx -r 0.4 -hbm o.xpm -hbn o.ndx -num o.xvg my index file contained a group of hydrophobic atoms. which I supplied in the x.ndx. You don't define contacts in an index group, you define atoms that may or may not make contacts with others. The one I mentioned here is the output index file from the g_hbond (4.6 version) - o.ndx. [ contacts_C_CA_CB_CD_CD1_CD2_CE_CE1_CE2_CE3_CG_CG1_CG2_CZ_*** *CZ2_CZ3_CH2 ] 5 7ws 5 10 5 14 5 18 5 22 5 24 5 27 5 30 5 35 5292 5296 530 There's something very wrong with this index file. How did you generate it? The presence of a repeated atom number (5) and a nonsensical one (7ws) leads me to believe that you've done something incorrect. Did this come from g_hbond? It looks like the output of -hbn, which is only useful for decoding hbmap.xpm, nothing else. I did not generate this. The tool (g_hbond) generated this index file. It is the -hbn output. OK, then I still don't know what 7ws is, but the only purpose for this file is to provide a key to the existence matrix in hbmap.xpm. Your previous description indicated that you were using it for some other analysis, which would not be appropriate. The other thing worth mentioning here is something that was posted to the list just a few hours ago, that the output of g_hbond -contact may not agree with other methods of calculating contacts, especially in the case of -merge vs. -nomerge. -Justin From this second section Total contacts was extracted for each atom and compared with that from a second simulation. These contacts was matching with the contacts of the 3rd column from g_mdmat output - @ legend string 0 Total/mean @ legend string 1 Total @ legend string 2 Mean @ legend string 3 # atoms @ legend string 4 Mean/# atoms #resratio tot mean natm mean/atm 1 1.001 1110.991110.991 2 1.244 10 8.0411 8.041 3 1.166 1311.147111.147 4 1.036 1110.615110.615 While the time dependent contacts in the xvg file shows that the first simulation has more contacts than the second one.. That shouldn't be unexpected. Two independent simulations have no guarantee of doing the same thing, that's why sampling is so important. Thank you kavya -- ==**== Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.**vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justinhttp://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin ==**== -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/**mailman/listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/** Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchhttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchbefore posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use
[gmx-users] g_hbond existence matrix
Dear users, I have a little confusion - The hbmap.xpm file gives the existence of each hydrogen bond. The file mentions - c #FF /* None */, o c #FF /* Present */, Meaning - character space in white colour means Hbond not present character o in red colour means Hbond is present. In addition, the file also contains white coloured o what is this? Thank you Kavya -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond existence matrix
On 1/24/13 11:03 AM, Kavyashree M wrote: Dear users, I have a little confusion - The hbmap.xpm file gives the existence of each hydrogen bond. The file mentions - c #FF /* None */, o c #FF /* Present */, Meaning - character space in white colour means Hbond not present character o in red colour means Hbond is present. In addition, the file also contains white coloured o what is this? There are only two characters in the .xpm file, a space and an 'o' as you noted above. The font color that appears in your terminal is whatever you have set it to be; there is no significance of different colored letters in the .xpm file. There either is a hydrogen bond in a frame (in which case you see 'o') or there is not (and thus a blank space). -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond existence matrix
Thank you for the clarification. On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote: On 1/24/13 11:03 AM, Kavyashree M wrote: Dear users, I have a little confusion - The hbmap.xpm file gives the existence of each hydrogen bond. The file mentions - c #FF /* None */, o c #FF /* Present */, Meaning - character space in white colour means Hbond not present character o in red colour means Hbond is present. In addition, the file also contains white coloured o what is this? There are only two characters in the .xpm file, a space and an 'o' as you noted above. The font color that appears in your terminal is whatever you have set it to be; there is no significance of different colored letters in the .xpm file. There either is a hydrogen bond in a frame (in which case you see 'o') or there is not (and thus a blank space). -Justin -- ==**== Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.**vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justinhttp://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin ==**== -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/**mailman/listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/** Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchhttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchbefore posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/**Support/Mailing_Listshttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond index
On 12/19/12 9:37 AM, Kavyashree M wrote: Dear users, While using g_hbond, does it make any difference if I give option 18 and 1 or 1 and 18? Order does not matter. I wanted to find the hydrogen bonding of a group of residues with the whole protein so I had an index of this group. When I give the option as 18 (index number) and 1 (whole protein), I get several messages Hm. This isn't the first time I found this donor (...,...) But later it does calculates. does this mean that it is double counting those interactions? What is group 18? Be mindful of the g_hbond requirement that the chosen groups must be completely unique or completely overlapping. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond index
Sir, I thought that the order should not matter but when I used 18 - 1 and 1 - 18 the graph were slightly off. Group 18 is a set of residues in that protein with some unique property. I wanted to see the variation of Hbond of these residues with the whole protein. so group 18 is a subset of group 1. Thank you Kavya On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote: On 12/19/12 9:37 AM, Kavyashree M wrote: Dear users, While using g_hbond, does it make any difference if I give option 18 and 1 or 1 and 18? Order does not matter. I wanted to find the hydrogen bonding of a group of residues with the whole protein so I had an index of this group. When I give the option as 18 (index number) and 1 (whole protein), I get several messages Hm. This isn't the first time I found this donor (...,...) But later it does calculates. does this mean that it is double counting those interactions? What is group 18? Be mindful of the g_hbond requirement that the chosen groups must be completely unique or completely overlapping. -Justin -- ==**== Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.**vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justinhttp://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin ==**== -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/**mailman/listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/** Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchhttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchbefore posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/**Support/Mailing_Listshttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond index
On 12/19/12 11:43 AM, Kavyashree M wrote: Sir, I thought that the order should not matter but when I used 18 - 1 and 1 - 18 the graph were slightly off. Group 18 is a set of residues in that protein with some unique property. I wanted to see the variation of Hbond of these residues with the whole protein. so group 18 is a subset of group 1. You see a difference likely because you are invoking the command incorrectly (with overlapping index groups) and it is affecting the way the donor and acceptor arrays are constructed. The proper method of analysis is to monitor H-bonds within group 18 and then between group 18 and whatever part of the protein that does not overlap with it. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond index
Ok thank you. kavya On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote: On 12/19/12 11:43 AM, Kavyashree M wrote: Sir, I thought that the order should not matter but when I used 18 - 1 and 1 - 18 the graph were slightly off. Group 18 is a set of residues in that protein with some unique property. I wanted to see the variation of Hbond of these residues with the whole protein. so group 18 is a subset of group 1. You see a difference likely because you are invoking the command incorrectly (with overlapping index groups) and it is affecting the way the donor and acceptor arrays are constructed. The proper method of analysis is to monitor H-bonds within group 18 and then between group 18 and whatever part of the protein that does not overlap with it. -Justin -- ==**== Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.**vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justinhttp://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin ==**== -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/**mailman/listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/** Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchhttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchbefore posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/**Support/Mailing_Listshttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_hbond routine
Dear gromacs users, in the Gromacs manual pages (version 4.5.3 page 211) there are the criteria to have an Hbond. r 0.35 nm, where r is the Donor-Acceptor distance alpha 30°, where alpha is the Hydrogen-Donor-Acceptor angle in the Manual page for g_hbond (version 4.5.3 page 275) it is written Hydrogen bonds are determined based on cutoffs for the angle Acceptor - Donor - Hydrogen (zero is extended) and the distance Hydrogen - Acceptor and even in the file that exits by using the option -dist the xaxis label is Hydrogen - Acceptor Distance (nm) but I think this is the Donor-Acceptor distance because it seems too big to be the Hydrogen-Acceptor distance. Which distance is it? Thank you very much, Velia -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond routine
On 11/30/12 10:41 AM, Velia Minicozzi wrote: Dear gromacs users, in the Gromacs manual pages (version 4.5.3 page 211) there are the criteria to have an Hbond. r 0.35 nm, where r is the Donor-Acceptor distance alpha 30°, where alpha is the Hydrogen-Donor-Acceptor angle in the Manual page for g_hbond (version 4.5.3 page 275) it is written Hydrogen bonds are determined based on cutoffs for the angle Acceptor - Donor - Hydrogen (zero is extended) and the distance Hydrogen - Acceptor and even in the file that exits by using the option -dist the xaxis label is Hydrogen - Acceptor Distance (nm) but I think this is the Donor-Acceptor distance because it seems too big to be the Hydrogen-Acceptor distance. Which distance is it? It depends on what you select. You control whether it is the H-A or D-A distance using the -da flag. By default, it is a D-A distance. There is small output bug was reported this morning and there is an open Redmine issue for it. It is low-priority, but will be fixed sometime in the future. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_hbond
Hi I have an alcohol system and I want to calculate the number of H bonds during the trajectory. My atom type labels are C2-C2-C2-CO-OH-HO. CO denotes carbon bonded to oxygen, OH denotes alcohol oxygen, and HO denotes alcohol hydrogen. In g_hbond how do I specify my groups to consider for H bonding. If I uses group 0 which is the whole system it says that I have twice as many acceptors as donors, which shouldn't be the case. Cheers Gavin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
On 9/28/12 8:53 AM, Gavin Melaugh wrote: Hi I have an alcohol system and I want to calculate the number of H bonds during the trajectory. My atom type labels are C2-C2-C2-CO-OH-HO. CO denotes carbon bonded to oxygen, OH denotes alcohol oxygen, and HO denotes alcohol hydrogen. In g_hbond how do I specify my groups to consider for H bonding. If I uses group 0 which is the whole system it says that I have twice as many acceptors as donors, which shouldn't be the case. g_hbond uses atom names (not types) to determine what is considered a donor, acceptor, or H atom. If there is a problem with the number of acceptors or donors, then there is a problem with the way the atoms are named. Without seeing the [atoms] section of the topology or relevant snippet of the coordinate file, it's hard to say what's going on at this point. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D. Research Scientist Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_hbond
Hello, How can I add chlorin atom as a acceptor in g_hbond. I am using Gromacs VERSION 4.0.7 NIlesh -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
Nilesh Dhumal wrote: Hello, How can I add chlorin atom as a acceptor in g_hbond. Either modify the source code (the search_acceptors routine in gmx_hbond.c) or make a dummy structure/topology that lists the Cl atoms as O. The program searches for acceptors by atom name only (O and/or N if using -nitacc), so you can probably trick it into thinking that's what they are. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
As suggested by David I extended the simulations (total of 25ns) for a single chain polyacid in 5500 water molecules and tried to calculate the H-bond ACF. I get the same negative lifetime for Hbonds between COOH groups and water. Is it that the g_hbond ACF giving weird results for this case. For chains with COO- and COOH groups (50% each), I got positive life times of Hbond. Ayy ideas on how to solve this will be of great help. I am using 4.0.7 version. The command line I gave was g_hbond -f traj.xtc -s traj.tpr -n index.ndx -ac and chose the polyacid and the water as the two groups. ACF 22057/22057 Normalization for c(t) = 0.0217714 for gh(t) = 4.35398e-06 Hydrogen bond thermodynamics at T = 298.15 K Fitting parameters chi^2 = 0.0146697 Q = 0 -- Type Rate (1/ps) Time (ps) DG (kJ/mol) Chi^2 Forward-0.271 -3.687-666.000 0.0146697 Backward -2.291 -0.437-666.000 One-way 0.101 9.882 10.207 Integral0.034 29.376 12.907 Relaxation 0.063 15.803 11.370 Thankyou for any help, Dr. M. S. Sulatha Dept. of Chemical Engineering IIT-Madras India On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:12 AM, sulatha M. S mssula...@gmail.com wrote: I did not get a warning here. I also have simulations (20ns) of copolyacids where again it gave me negative life time. These runs are well equilibrated with respect to energy and Rg of the polymers. The system is a 20 repeat unit chain in approx. 5500 water molecules. I have done simulations in which 10 units are COO- and the remaining 10 as COOH along the chain. With a 10ns trajectory, the average life time of H-bonds is positive.Only in the case of unionized acid I am getting a negative life time. Did you look at the ACF graph? It could be constant at 1 or 0. Yes, the ACF decays to 0 and remains constant in all cases Thankyou for any help, Dr. M. S. Sulatha Dept. of Chemical Engineering IIT-Madras India -- David van der Spoel, Ph.D., Professor of Biology Dept. of Cell Molec. Biol., Uppsala University. Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Sweden. Phone: +46184714205. sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se mailto:sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se http://folding.bmc.uu.se -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists What is the value for free energy of H-bonding. -- David van der Spoel, Ph.D., Professor of Biology Dept. of Cell Molec. Biol., Uppsala University. Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Sweden. Phone: +46184714205. sp...@xray.bmc.uu.sehttp://folding.bmc.uu.se -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
Dear David, Yes it is DGact. The DGeq follows from the fraction of COOH that are not forming hydrogen bonds, option -nhbdist. So, I need to use the equation (9) and (10) from your paper to calculate the equilibrium constant and free energy of H-bonding. Another question I have is, for a polycarboxylic acid system in water (COOH groups as side chains) for a 10ns run, I got the following as the output where the life time of the H-bond (between the polyacid and water) is negative. Is this correct? This means that the ACF has not equilibrated and you need much longer sims. You probably got a warning about it. I did not get a warning here. I also have simulations (20ns) of copolyacids where again it gave me negative life time. These runs are well equilibrated with respect to energy and Rg of the polymers. The system is a 20 repeat unit chain in approx. 5500 water molecules. I have done simulations in which 10 units are COO- and the remaining 10 as COOH along the chain. With a 10ns trajectory, the average life time of H-bonds is positive.Only in the case of unionized acid I am getting a negative life time. ACF 22057/22057 Normalization for c(t) = 0.0217714 for gh(t) = 4.35398e-06 Hydrogen bond thermodynamics at T = 298.15 K Fitting parameters chi^2 = 0.0146697 Q = 0 -- Type Rate (1/ps) Time (ps) DG (kJ/mol) Chi^2 Forward-0.271 -3.687-666.000 0.0146697 Backward -2.291 -0.437-666.000 One-way 0.101 9.882 10.207 Integral0.034 29.376 12.907 Relaxation 0.063 15.803 11.370 Thankyou for any help, Dr. M. S. Sulatha Dept. of Chemical Engineering IIT-Madras India -- David van der Spoel, Ph.D., Professor of Biology Dept. of Cell Molec. Biol., Uppsala University. Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Sweden. Phone: +46184714205. sp...@xray.bmc.uu.sehttp://folding.bmc.uu.se -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists What is the value for free energy of H-bonding. -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
On 2011-12-12 09:54, sulatha M. S wrote: Dear David, Yes it is DGact. The DGeq follows from the fraction of COOH that are not forming hydrogen bonds, option -nhbdist. So, I need to use the equation (9) and (10) from your paper to calculate the equilibrium constant and free energy of H-bonding. Yes. Another question I have is, for a polycarboxylic acid system in water (COOH groups as side chains) for a 10ns run, I got the following as the output where the life time of the H-bond (between the polyacid and water) is negative. Is this correct? This means that the ACF has not equilibrated and you need much longer sims. You probably got a warning about it. I did not get a warning here. I also have simulations (20ns) of copolyacids where again it gave me negative life time. These runs are well equilibrated with respect to energy and Rg of the polymers. The system is a 20 repeat unit chain in approx. 5500 water molecules. I have done simulations in which 10 units are COO- and the remaining 10 as COOH along the chain. With a 10ns trajectory, the average life time of H-bonds is positive.Only in the case of unionized acid I am getting a negative life time. Did you look at the ACF graph? It could be constant at 1 or 0. ACF 22057/22057 Normalization for c(t) = 0.0217714 for gh(t) = 4.35398e-06 Hydrogen bond thermodynamics at T = 298.15 K Fitting parameters chi^2 = 0.0146697 Q = 0 -- Type Rate (1/ps) Time (ps) DG (kJ/mol) Chi^2 Forward-0.271 -3.687-666.000 0.0146697 Backward -2.291 -0.437-666.000 One-way 0.101 9.882 10.207 Integral0.034 29.376 12.907 Relaxation 0.063 15.803 11.370 Thankyou for any help, Dr. M. S. Sulatha Dept. of Chemical Engineering IIT-Madras India -- David van der Spoel, Ph.D., Professor of Biology Dept. of Cell Molec. Biol., Uppsala University. Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Sweden. Phone: +46184714205. sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se mailto:sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se http://folding.bmc.uu.se -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists What is the value for free energy of H-bonding. -- David van der Spoel, Ph.D., Professor of Biology Dept. of Cell Molec. Biol., Uppsala University. Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Sweden. Phone: +46184714205. sp...@xray.bmc.uu.sehttp://folding.bmc.uu.se -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
I did not get a warning here. I also have simulations (20ns) of copolyacids where again it gave me negative life time. These runs are well equilibrated with respect to energy and Rg of the polymers. The system is a 20 repeat unit chain in approx. 5500 water molecules. I have done simulations in which 10 units are COO- and the remaining 10 as COOH along the chain. With a 10ns trajectory, the average life time of H-bonds is positive.Only in the case of unionized acid I am getting a negative life time. Did you look at the ACF graph? It could be constant at 1 or 0. Yes, the ACF decays to 0 and remains constant in all cases Thankyou for any help, Dr. M. S. Sulatha Dept. of Chemical Engineering IIT-Madras India -- David van der Spoel, Ph.D., Professor of Biology Dept. of Cell Molec. Biol., Uppsala University. Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Sweden. Phone: +46184714205. sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se mailto:sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se http://folding.bmc.uu.se -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists What is the value for free energy of H-bonding. -- David van der Spoel, Ph.D., Professor of Biology Dept. of Cell Molec. Biol., Uppsala University. Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Sweden. Phone: +46184714205. sp...@xray.bmc.uu.sehttp://folding.bmc.uu.se -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_hbond
Dear gromacs users, I did a g_hbond -ac analysis on a 10 ns trajectory of a polycarboxylate in water. Following is the output I obtained for the polycarboxylate H-bondign with water ACF 36008/36008 Normalization for c(t) = 0.00709164 for gh(t) = 7.09124e-07 Hydrogen bond thermodynamics at T = 298.15 K Fitting parameters chi^2 = 0.000661899 Q = 0 -- Type Rate (1/ps) Time (ps) DG (kJ/mol) Chi^2 Forward 0.300 3.334 7.513 0.000661899 Backward1.608 0.622 3.350 One-way 0.089 11.284 10.536 Integral0.039 25.374 12.544 Relaxation 0.062 16.080 11.413 I have read David paper (2006) on thermodynamics of H-bonding. In the paper two delta G values are mentioned. one is the Gibbs energy of activation (dG#) and another is the free energy of H-bonding. In the output given from the -ac analysis, which dG values do these correspond to? I assumed dG given for the forward rate correspond to the energy of activation. Is it correct? What is the value for free energy of H-bonding. Another question I have is, for a polycarboxylic acid system in water (COOH groups as side chains) for a 10ns run, I got the following as the output where the life time of the H-bond (between the polyacid and water) is negative. Is this correct? ACF 22057/22057 Normalization for c(t) = 0.0217714 for gh(t) = 4.35398e-06 Hydrogen bond thermodynamics at T = 298.15 K Fitting parameters chi^2 = 0.0146697 Q = 0 -- Type Rate (1/ps) Time (ps) DG (kJ/mol) Chi^2 Forward-0.271 -3.687-666.000 0.0146697 Backward -2.291 -0.437-666.000 One-way 0.101 9.882 10.207 Integral0.034 29.376 12.907 Relaxation 0.063 15.803 11.370 Thankyou for any help, Dr. M. S. Sulatha Dept. of Chemical Engineering IIT-Madras India -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
On 2011-12-12 07:41, sulatha M. S wrote: Dear gromacs users, I did a g_hbond -ac analysis on a 10 ns trajectory of a polycarboxylate in water. Following is the output I obtained for the polycarboxylate H-bondign with water ACF 36008/36008 Normalization for c(t) = 0.00709164 for gh(t) = 7.09124e-07 Hydrogen bond thermodynamics at T = 298.15 K Fitting parameters chi^2 = 0.000661899 Q = 0 -- Type Rate (1/ps) Time (ps) DG (kJ/mol) Chi^2 Forward 0.300 3.334 7.513 0.000661899 Backward1.608 0.622 3.350 One-way 0.089 11.284 10.536 Integral0.039 25.374 12.544 Relaxation 0.062 16.080 11.413 I have read David paper (2006) on thermodynamics of H-bonding. In the paper two delta G values are mentioned. one is the Gibbs energy of activation (dG#) and another is the free energy of H-bonding. In the output given from the -ac analysis, which dG values do these correspond to? I assumed dG given for the forward rate correspond to the energy of activation. Is it correct? What is the value for free energy of H-bonding. Yes it is DGact. The DGeq follows from the fraction of COOH that are not forming hydrogen bonds, option -nhbdist. Another question I have is, for a polycarboxylic acid system in water (COOH groups as side chains) for a 10ns run, I got the following as the output where the life time of the H-bond (between the polyacid and water) is negative. Is this correct? This means that the ACF has not equilibrated and you need much longer sims. You probably got a warning about it. ACF 22057/22057 Normalization for c(t) = 0.0217714 for gh(t) = 4.35398e-06 Hydrogen bond thermodynamics at T = 298.15 K Fitting parameters chi^2 = 0.0146697 Q = 0 -- Type Rate (1/ps) Time (ps) DG (kJ/mol) Chi^2 Forward-0.271 -3.687-666.000 0.0146697 Backward -2.291 -0.437-666.000 One-way 0.101 9.882 10.207 Integral0.034 29.376 12.907 Relaxation 0.063 15.803 11.370 Thankyou for any help, Dr. M. S. Sulatha Dept. of Chemical Engineering IIT-Madras India -- David van der Spoel, Ph.D., Professor of Biology Dept. of Cell Molec. Biol., Uppsala University. Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Sweden. Phone: +46184714205. sp...@xray.bmc.uu.sehttp://folding.bmc.uu.se -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_hbond -hbn
Hi Gmxers, I used g_hbond -n protein.ndx -hbn output.xvg to get the index of all the atoms forming H-bond with the protein, but since H-Bonds should be dynamic as time evolves, I should see changing number of HBonds in the output.xvg which I have not seen yet. Kinda confused. Thanks, Yao -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond -hbn
Yao Yao wrote: Hi Gmxers, I used g_hbond -n protein.ndx -hbn output.xvg to get the index of all the atoms forming H-bond with the protein, but since H-Bonds should be dynamic as time evolves, I should see changing number of HBonds in the output.xvg which I have not seen yet. Kinda confused. The output of -hbn is an index file, not an .xvg file. The index file can be mapped to the output of -hbm, which is an existence matrix of the hydrogen bonds. Some may swap simultaneously, so you may not see dramatic changes in the output of -num (the number of hydrogen bonds). -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_hbond frames
Hi Gmxers, I ran g_hbond between my protein and water for a 3ns trajectory with 2 fs integration step but found the error, Cannot calculate autocorrelation of life times with less than two frames, I am quite sure my system is just a regular protein in a cubic water box. And the size of trajectory is big with no error messages when finished. So it should not be just a couple of frames. Anyone met this before? Thanks, Yao -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond frames
Yao Yao wrote: Hi Gmxers, I ran g_hbond between my protein and water for a 3ns trajectory with 2 fs integration step but found the error, Cannot calculate autocorrelation of life times with less than two frames, I am quite sure my system is just a regular protein in a cubic water box. And the size of trajectory is big with no error messages when finished. So it should not be just a couple of frames. Anyone met this before? Without providing the exact command you used, there's little anyone can do to help. In addition, you may want to run gmxcheck on your trajectory to make sure there are no corrupt frames. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_hbond
Hi everyone! I have some questions on g_hbond. According to Manual 4.5.4, hydrogen-bonds are counted/determined by g_hbond based on angle and distance cut-offs. The distance cut-off is based on the acceptor-donor distance. However, the online manual says that the distance is based on Hydrogen - Acceptor distance? The link to the online manual is as follows: http://manual.gromacs.org/online/g_hbond.html I am using Gromacs 4.5.3. I found out that g_hbond does not give the correct counts due to a bug http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2011-May/061249.html I am fairly new to using Gromacs with limited knowledge in programming. How do I get this bug fixed with my current version? How can I patch the fix suggested above? The other question will be. Does the most recent version has the g_hbond fixed? I use Gromacs via Cygwin. Just in case I install the the new version, I would like to keep my old one. Is it ok, or do I have remove it? Thanks. Bernard-- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_hbond
Hi everyone! I have some questions on g_hbond. According to Manual 4.5.4, hydrogen-bonds are counted/determined by g_hbond based on angle and distance cut-offs. The distance cut-off is based on the acceptor-donor distance. However, the online manual says that the distance is based on Hydrogen - Acceptor distance? The link to the online manual is as follows: http://manual.gromacs.org/online/g_hbond.html I am using Gromacs 4.5.3. I found out that g_hbond does not give the correct counts due to a bug http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2011-May/061249.html I am fairly new to using Gromacs with limited knowledge in programming. How do I get this bug fixed with my current version? How can I patch the fix suggested above? The other question will be. Does the most recent version has the g_hbond fixed? I use Gromacs via Cygwin. Just in case I install the the new version, I would like to keep my old one. Is it ok, or do I have remove it? Thanks. Bernard-- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
Mr Bernard Ramos wrote: Hi everyone! I have some questions on g_hbond. According to Manual 4.5.4, hydrogen-bonds are counted/determined by g_hbond based on angle and distance cut-offs. The distance cut-off is based on the acceptor-donor distance. However, the online manual says that the distance is based on Hydrogen - Acceptor distance? The link to the online manual is as follows: http://manual.gromacs.org/online/g_hbond.html It should be the donor-acceptor distance. There was some discussion on this a few weeks ago. The code I am using Gromacs 4.5.3. I found out that g_hbond does not give the correct counts due to a bug http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2011-May/061249.html I am fairly new to using Gromacs with limited knowledge in programming. How do I get this bug fixed with my current version? How can I patch the fix suggested above? I wouldn't bother. That would require cherry-picking a commit from the git repository. Just upgrade to the latest version of Gromacs and it will be fixed. The other question will be. Does the most recent version has the g_hbond fixed? I use Gromacs via Cygwin. Just in case I install the the new version, I would like to keep my old one. Is it ok, or do I have remove it? You can maintain different versions concurrently as long as they are in discrete locations and you configure your environment to access the proper one (i.e. by sourcing the right GMXRC file). -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
Justin A. Lemkul wrote: Mr Bernard Ramos wrote: Hi everyone! I have some questions on g_hbond. According to Manual 4.5.4, hydrogen-bonds are counted/determined by g_hbond based on angle and distance cut-offs. The distance cut-off is based on the acceptor-donor distance. However, the online manual says that the distance is based on Hydrogen - Acceptor distance? The link to the online manual is as follows: http://manual.gromacs.org/online/g_hbond.html It should be the donor-acceptor distance. There was some discussion on this a few weeks ago. The code Oops, forgot to finish that thought. Someone came into my office... Where I was going was that the code is very convoluted and I honestly can't follow it, so hopefully a developer can confirm the proper action so the documentation can be updated. -Justin I am using Gromacs 4.5.3. I found out that g_hbond does not give the correct counts due to a bug http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2011-May/061249.html I am fairly new to using Gromacs with limited knowledge in programming. How do I get this bug fixed with my current version? How can I patch the fix suggested above? I wouldn't bother. That would require cherry-picking a commit from the git repository. Just upgrade to the latest version of Gromacs and it will be fixed. The other question will be. Does the most recent version has the g_hbond fixed? I use Gromacs via Cygwin. Just in case I install the the new version, I would like to keep my old one. Is it ok, or do I have remove it? You can maintain different versions concurrently as long as they are in discrete locations and you configure your environment to access the proper one (i.e. by sourcing the right GMXRC file). -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote: Steven Neumann wrote: One question for Glycine it is easy to assess 3 possible hbonds which can create as hydrogen is only one atom as a side chain. How about other amino acids and their maximum hbonds they can create? Any OH or NH group is a donor, any lone pair is an acceptor (though obviously not modeled explicitly in MD). The ability of MD force fields to agree with reality in this respect is debatable, but should come close. -Justin Thank you Justin. Can you please clarify me something and tell me whether I am wrong. This is what I obtained from calulating hbonds between 10 ligands and Glycine. Each ligand serve 8 OH group (flavanoid) : *Reading file md.tpr, VERSION 4.5.4 (single precision) Specify 2 groups to analyze: Group 0 ( r_96) has 7 elements -* this is my Glycine - 7 atoms (side chain - Hydrogen) *Group 1 (LIG) has 510 elements-* these are 10 ligands, 51 atoms each, 8 OH group *Select a group: 0 1 Selected 0: 'r_96' Select a group: Selected 1: 'LIG' Checking for overlap in atoms between r_96 and LIG Calculating hydrogen bonds between r_96 (7 atoms) and LIG (510 atoms) Found 81 donors and 112 acceptors * ** *81 donors? It should be 80 when I have 10 ligands with 8 Oh group... Am I right?* *112 acceptors? 7 atoms of my Glycine x 12 possibilities?* ** *trn version: GMX_trn_file (single precision) Reading frame 0 time0.000 Will do grid-seach on 11x11x11 grid, rcut=0.35 Last frame 2000 time 10.000 Average number of hbonds per timeframe 0.642 out of 4536 possible - that is understood = (112x81)/2* ** *So how many possibilities has Glycine in order to create hbond? Shall I choose just a side chain which is hydrogen?* ** *Steven* Steven On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Steven Neumann s.neuman...@gmail.commailto: s.neuman...@gmail.com** wrote: Thank you for clarification Justin!!! The Manual is not as clear as you :P Steven On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote: Steven Neumann wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote: Steven Neumann wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote: Steven Neumann wrote: Hi Gromacs Users, I have calculated hydrogen bonds and collisions between my ligands and every single residue using g_hbond. Looking at the criteria adpoted by Gromacs I found impossible that number of hydrogen bonds were higher than number of collisions... And what is interesting in one of my residue I obtained result like this... All Hbonds with Glycine - 1872, All Collisions 704. Does anyone know how is it possible? I don't know how any of your numbers are possible (1872 H-bonds forming with a glycine?), or what you are defining as a collision and how you calculated it. Please provide the exact commands that you're using. If you're equating a contact (e.g. from g_mindist) with a collision, then realize that the default criteria for a contact are very different than the geometric criteria for a hydrogen bond. -Justin -- ==** __== Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu http://vt.edu/ http://vt.edu/ http://vt.edu/ | (540) 231-9080 tel:%28540%29%20231-9080 tel:%28540%29%20231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem http://www.bevanlab.biochem/**.
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
On 1/09/2011 6:14 PM, Steven Neumann wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote: Steven Neumann wrote: One question for Glycine it is easy to assess 3 possible hbonds which can create as hydrogen is only one atom as a side chain. How about other amino acids and their maximum hbonds they can create? Any OH or NH group is a donor, any lone pair is an acceptor (though obviously not modeled explicitly in MD). The ability of MD force fields to agree with reality in this respect is debatable, but should come close. -Justin Thank you Justin. Can you please clarify me something and tell me whether I am wrong. This is what I obtained from calulating hbonds between 10 ligands and Glycine. Each ligand serve 8 OH group (flavanoid) : /*Reading file md.tpr, VERSION 4.5.4 (single precision) Specify 2 groups to analyze: Group 0 ( r_96) has 7 elements* -/ this is my Glycine - 7 atoms (side chain - Hydrogen) /*Group 1 (LIG) has 510 elements*-/ these are 10 ligands, 51 atoms each, 8 OH group /*Select a group: 0 1 Selected 0: 'r_96' Select a group: Selected 1: 'LIG' Checking for overlap in atoms between r_96 and LIG Calculating hydrogen bonds between r_96 (7 atoms) and LIG (510 atoms) Found 81 donors and 112 acceptors */ *//* /81 donors? It should be 80 when I have 10 ligands with 8 Oh group... Am I right?/ You are assuming g_hbond knows what you know - that only your ligand hydroxyls can do effective H-bonding. However, g_hbond can only look at the atom names of the groups you give it. Algorithms do what you say, not what you mean, unfortunately. 81 = 1*1 + 8*10, since NH from glycine is a donor. /112 acceptors? 7 atoms of my Glycine x 12 possibilities?/ Methylene atoms cannot accept hydrogen bonds! See g_hbond -h. N and O from glycine are acceptors. 112 = 2*1 + 11*10 Mark *//* /*trn version: GMX_trn_file (single precision) Reading frame 0 time0.000 Will do grid-seach on 11x11x11 grid, rcut=0.35 Last frame 2000 time 10.000 Average number of hbonds per timeframe 0.642 out of 4536 possible - *that is understood = (112x81)/2/ // /So how many possibilities has Glycine in order to create hbond? Shall I choose just a side chain which is hydrogen?/ // /Steven/ -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_hbond
Hi Gromacs Users, I have calculated hydrogen bonds and collisions between my ligands and every single residue using g_hbond. Looking at the criteria adpoted by Gromacs I found impossible that number of hydrogen bonds were higher than number of collisions... And what is interesting in one of my residue I obtained result like this... All Hbonds with Glycine - 1872, All Collisions 704. Does anyone know how is it possible? Steven -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
Steven Neumann wrote: Hi Gromacs Users, I have calculated hydrogen bonds and collisions between my ligands and every single residue using g_hbond. Looking at the criteria adpoted by Gromacs I found impossible that number of hydrogen bonds were higher than number of collisions... And what is interesting in one of my residue I obtained result like this... All Hbonds with Glycine - 1872, All Collisions 704. Does anyone know how is it possible? I don't know how any of your numbers are possible (1872 H-bonds forming with a glycine?), or what you are defining as a collision and how you calculated it. Please provide the exact commands that you're using. If you're equating a contact (e.g. from g_mindist) with a collision, then realize that the default criteria for a contact are very different than the geometric criteria for a hydrogen bond. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote: Steven Neumann wrote: Hi Gromacs Users, I have calculated hydrogen bonds and collisions between my ligands and every single residue using g_hbond. Looking at the criteria adpoted by Gromacs I found impossible that number of hydrogen bonds were higher than number of collisions... And what is interesting in one of my residue I obtained result like this... All Hbonds with Glycine - 1872, All Collisions 704. Does anyone know how is it possible? I don't know how any of your numbers are possible (1872 H-bonds forming with a glycine?), or what you are defining as a collision and how you calculated it. Please provide the exact commands that you're using. If you're equating a contact (e.g. from g_mindist) with a collision, then realize that the default criteria for a contact are very different than the geometric criteria for a hydrogen bond. -Justin -- ==**== Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.**vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justinhttp://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin ==**== -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/**mailman/listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/** Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchhttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchbefore posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/**Support/Mailing_Listshttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists My system is made of 10 ligands and one protein. I used command: g_hbond -f md.trr -s md.tpr -n res91.ndx -num 91with10LIGbonds.xvg Where I specified in the index file two groups: 10 ligands and Glycine residue. So I have calculated hbonds (second column) and collisions (third column) and then I made a sum of all frames during 100 ns simualtion time (one frame every 50 ps) obtaining 1872 hbonds and 703 collisions between Glycine and 10 ligands. I did it with every residue to assess binding affinity of different amino acids. Criteria for collision is distance 3.5 A, and fo hbond distance 3.5 A and angle. So when calcualting hbond and collisions the number of hbonds has has to be smaller while collision takes into account hbonds as welll. I obtained results like this for all other residues which seems to be correct. Am I right? Steven -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
Steven Neumann wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote: Steven Neumann wrote: Hi Gromacs Users, I have calculated hydrogen bonds and collisions between my ligands and every single residue using g_hbond. Looking at the criteria adpoted by Gromacs I found impossible that number of hydrogen bonds were higher than number of collisions... And what is interesting in one of my residue I obtained result like this... All Hbonds with Glycine - 1872, All Collisions 704. Does anyone know how is it possible? I don't know how any of your numbers are possible (1872 H-bonds forming with a glycine?), or what you are defining as a collision and how you calculated it. Please provide the exact commands that you're using. If you're equating a contact (e.g. from g_mindist) with a collision, then realize that the default criteria for a contact are very different than the geometric criteria for a hydrogen bond. -Justin -- ==__== Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu http://vt.edu/ | (540) 231-9080 tel:%28540%29%20231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.__vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin ==__== -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/__mailman/listinfo/gmx-users http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/__Support/Mailing_Lists/Search http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/__Support/Mailing_Lists http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists My system is made of 10 ligands and one protein. I used command: g_hbond -f md.trr -s md.tpr -n res91.ndx -num 91with10LIGbonds.xvg Where I specified in the index file two groups: 10 ligands and Glycine residue. So I have calculated hbonds (second column) and collisions (third column) and then I made a sum of all frames during 100 ns simualtion time (one frame every 50 ps) obtaining 1872 hbonds and 703 collisions between Glycine and 10 ligands. I did it with every residue to assess binding affinity of different amino acids. Criteria for collision is distance 3.5 A, and fo hbond distance 3.5 A and angle. So when calcualting hbond and collisions the number of hbonds has has to be smaller while collision takes into account hbonds as welll. I obtained results like this for all other residues which seems to be correct. Am I right? No. The second column is not inclusive of the first. It counts the number of atoms that are within hydrogen bonding distance, but do not meet the criteria because of the angle between D-H-A. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
Steven Neumann wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote: Steven Neumann wrote: Hi Gromacs Users, I have calculated hydrogen bonds and collisions between my ligands and every single residue using g_hbond. Looking at the criteria adpoted by Gromacs I found impossible that number of hydrogen bonds were higher than number of collisions... And what is interesting in one of my residue I obtained result like this... All Hbonds with Glycine - 1872, All Collisions 704. Does anyone know how is it possible? I don't know how any of your numbers are possible (1872 H-bonds forming with a glycine?), or what you are defining as a collision and how you calculated it. Please provide the exact commands that you're using. If you're equating a contact (e.g. from g_mindist) with a collision, then realize that the default criteria for a contact are very different than the geometric criteria for a hydrogen bond. -Justin -- ==__== Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu http://vt.edu/ | (540) 231-9080 tel:%28540%29%20231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.__vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin ==__== -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/__mailman/listinfo/gmx-users http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/__Support/Mailing_Lists/Search http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/__Support/Mailing_Lists http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists My system is made of 10 ligands and one protein. I used command: g_hbond -f md.trr -s md.tpr -n res91.ndx -num 91with10LIGbonds.xvg Where I specified in the index file two groups: 10 ligands and Glycine residue. So I have calculated hbonds (second column) and collisions (third column) and then I made a sum of all frames during 100 ns simualtion time (one frame every 50 ps) obtaining 1872 hbonds and 703 collisions between Glycine and 10 ligands. I did it with every residue to assess binding affinity of different amino acids. I forgot to mention in the previous message that there is no value in summing the hydrogen bonds over time. Some of those H-bonds may be distinct, and others may be the same H-bond that has broken and subsequently re-formed. I doubt anyone would find real value in saying that 10 ligands formed 1872 H-bonds with glycine over a trajectory. -Justin Criteria for collision is distance 3.5 A, and fo hbond distance 3.5 A and angle. So when calcualting hbond and collisions the number of hbonds has has to be smaller while collision takes into account hbonds as welll. I obtained results like this for all other residues which seems to be correct. Am I right? Steven -- Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote: Steven Neumann wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edumailto: jalem...@vt.edu wrote: Steven Neumann wrote: Hi Gromacs Users, I have calculated hydrogen bonds and collisions between my ligands and every single residue using g_hbond. Looking at the criteria adpoted by Gromacs I found impossible that number of hydrogen bonds were higher than number of collisions... And what is interesting in one of my residue I obtained result like this... All Hbonds with Glycine - 1872, All Collisions 704. Does anyone know how is it possible? I don't know how any of your numbers are possible (1872 H-bonds forming with a glycine?), or what you are defining as a collision and how you calculated it. Please provide the exact commands that you're using. If you're equating a contact (e.g. from g_mindist) with a collision, then realize that the default criteria for a contact are very different than the geometric criteria for a hydrogen bond. -Justin -- ==**__== Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu http://vt.edu/ | (540) 231-9080 tel:%28540%29%20231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.__**vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justinhttp://vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin http://www.bevanlab.biochem.**vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justinhttp://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin ==**__== -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/__**mailman/listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/__mailman/listinfo/gmx-users http://lists.gromacs.org/**mailman/listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/__**Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchhttp://www.gromacs.org/__Support/Mailing_Lists/Search http://www.gromacs.org/**Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchhttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users-request@**gromacs.orggmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/__**Support/Mailing_Listshttp://www.gromacs.org/__Support/Mailing_Lists http://www.gromacs.org/**Support/Mailing_Listshttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists My system is made of 10 ligands and one protein. I used command: g_hbond -f md.trr -s md.tpr -n res91.ndx -num 91with10LIGbonds.xvg Where I specified in the index file two groups: 10 ligands and Glycine residue. So I have calculated hbonds (second column) and collisions (third column) and then I made a sum of all frames during 100 ns simualtion time (one frame every 50 ps) obtaining 1872 hbonds and 703 collisions between Glycine and 10 ligands. I did it with every residue to assess binding affinity of different amino acids. I forgot to mention in the previous message that there is no value in summing the hydrogen bonds over time. Some of those H-bonds may be distinct, and others may be the same H-bond that has broken and subsequently re-formed. I doubt anyone would find real value in saying that 10 ligands formed 1872 H-bonds with glycine over a trajectory. -Justin Obviosuly, but it can provide you some information about binding affinity - some ligands remains close to some residues longer than the others so by sum of this values you can assess residues with higher binding affinity. Steven Criteria for collision is distance 3.5 A, and fo hbond distance 3.5 A and angle. So when calcualting hbond and collisions the number of hbonds has has to be smaller while collision takes into account hbonds as welll. I obtained results like this for all other residues which seems to be correct. Am I right? Steven -- ==**== Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.**vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justinhttp://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin ==**== -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/**mailman/listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/** Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchhttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchbefore posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
Steven Neumann wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote: Steven Neumann wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote: Steven Neumann wrote: Hi Gromacs Users, I have calculated hydrogen bonds and collisions between my ligands and every single residue using g_hbond. Looking at the criteria adpoted by Gromacs I found impossible that number of hydrogen bonds were higher than number of collisions... And what is interesting in one of my residue I obtained result like this... All Hbonds with Glycine - 1872, All Collisions 704. Does anyone know how is it possible? I don't know how any of your numbers are possible (1872 H-bonds forming with a glycine?), or what you are defining as a collision and how you calculated it. Please provide the exact commands that you're using. If you're equating a contact (e.g. from g_mindist) with a collision, then realize that the default criteria for a contact are very different than the geometric criteria for a hydrogen bond. -Justin -- ==== Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu http://vt.edu/ http://vt.edu/ | (540) 231-9080 tel:%28540%29%20231-9080 tel:%28540%29%20231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem. http://www.bevanlab.biochem./vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin http://vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin http://www.bevanlab.biochem.__vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin ==== -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users http://lists.gromacs.org/__mailman/listinfo/gmx-users http://lists.gromacs.org/__mailman/listinfo/gmx-users http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search http://www.gromacs.org/__Support/Mailing_Lists/Search http://www.gromacs.org/__Support/Mailing_Lists/Search http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users-request@__gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists http://www.gromacs.org/__Support/Mailing_Lists http://www.gromacs.org/__Support/Mailing_Lists http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists My system is made of 10 ligands and one protein. I used command: g_hbond -f md.trr -s md.tpr -n res91.ndx -num 91with10LIGbonds.xvg Where I specified in the index file two groups: 10 ligands and Glycine residue. So I have calculated hbonds (second column) and collisions (third column) and then I made a sum of all frames during 100 ns simualtion time (one frame every 50 ps) obtaining 1872 hbonds and 703 collisions between Glycine and 10 ligands. I did it with every residue to assess binding affinity of different amino acids. I forgot to mention in the previous message that there is no value in summing the hydrogen bonds over time. Some of those H-bonds may be distinct, and others may be the same H-bond that has broken and subsequently re-formed. I doubt anyone would find real value in saying that 10 ligands formed 1872 H-bonds with glycine over a trajectory. -Justin Obviosuly, but it can provide you some information about binding affinity - some ligands remains close to some residues longer than the others so by sum of this values you can assess residues with higher binding affinity. The average number of hydrogen bonds over time will tell you the same thing, with much greater precision. There are a maximum number of H-bonds that glycine can participate in, since it only has backbone groups to contribute, so if you find that, on average, there are 2.5 out of a possible
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
Thank you for clarification Justin!!! The Manual is not as clear as you :P Steven On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote: Steven Neumann wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edumailto: jalem...@vt.edu wrote: Steven Neumann wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote: Steven Neumann wrote: Hi Gromacs Users, I have calculated hydrogen bonds and collisions between my ligands and every single residue using g_hbond. Looking at the criteria adpoted by Gromacs I found impossible that number of hydrogen bonds were higher than number of collisions... And what is interesting in one of my residue I obtained result like this... All Hbonds with Glycine - 1872, All Collisions 704. Does anyone know how is it possible? I don't know how any of your numbers are possible (1872 H-bonds forming with a glycine?), or what you are defining as a collision and how you calculated it. Please provide the exact commands that you're using. If you're equating a contact (e.g. from g_mindist) with a collision, then realize that the default criteria for a contact are very different than the geometric criteria for a hydrogen bond. -Justin -- ==**== Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu http://vt.edu/ http://vt.edu/ | (540) 231-9080 tel:%28540%29%20231-9080 tel:%28540%29%20231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem. http://www.bevanlab.biochem./**vt.edu/Pages/Personal/** justin http://vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin http://vt.edu/Pages/Personal/**justinhttp://vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin http://www.bevanlab.biochem._**_vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin http://www.bevanlab.biochem.**vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justinhttp://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin ==**== -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org** http://lists.gromacs.org/**mailman/listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users http://lists.gromacs.org/__**mailman/listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/__mailman/listinfo/gmx-users http://lists.gromacs.org/__**mailman/listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/__mailman/listinfo/gmx-users http://lists.gromacs.org/**mailman/listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/**Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchhttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search http://www.gromacs.org/__**Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchhttp://www.gromacs.org/__Support/Mailing_Lists/Search http://www.gromacs.org/__**Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchhttp://www.gromacs.org/__Support/Mailing_Lists/Search http://www.gromacs.org/**Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchhttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users-request@**gromacs.orggmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users-request@__gr**omacs.org http://gromacs.org/ mailto:gmx-users-request@**gromacs.orggmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org . Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/**Support/Mailing_Listshttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists http://www.gromacs.org/__**Support/Mailing_Listshttp://www.gromacs.org/__Support/Mailing_Lists http://www.gromacs.org/__**Support/Mailing_Listshttp://www.gromacs.org/__Support/Mailing_Lists http://www.gromacs.org/**Support/Mailing_Listshttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists My system is made of 10 ligands and one protein. I used command: g_hbond -f md.trr -s md.tpr -n res91.ndx -num 91with10LIGbonds.xvg Where I specified in the index file two groups: 10 ligands and Glycine residue. So I have calculated hbonds (second column) and collisions (third column) and then I made a sum of all frames during 100 ns simualtion time (one frame every 50 ps) obtaining 1872
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
One question for Glycine it is easy to assess 3 possible hbonds which can create as hydrogen is only one atom as a side chain. How about other amino acids and their maximum hbonds they can create? Steven On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Steven Neumann s.neuman...@gmail.comwrote: Thank you for clarification Justin!!! The Manual is not as clear as you :P Steven On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.eduwrote: Steven Neumann wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edumailto: jalem...@vt.edu wrote: Steven Neumann wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote: Steven Neumann wrote: Hi Gromacs Users, I have calculated hydrogen bonds and collisions between my ligands and every single residue using g_hbond. Looking at the criteria adpoted by Gromacs I found impossible that number of hydrogen bonds were higher than number of collisions... And what is interesting in one of my residue I obtained result like this... All Hbonds with Glycine - 1872, All Collisions 704. Does anyone know how is it possible? I don't know how any of your numbers are possible (1872 H-bonds forming with a glycine?), or what you are defining as a collision and how you calculated it. Please provide the exact commands that you're using. If you're equating a contact (e.g. from g_mindist) with a collision, then realize that the default criteria for a contact are very different than the geometric criteria for a hydrogen bond. -Justin -- ==**== Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu http://vt.edu/ http://vt.edu/ | (540) 231-9080 tel:%28540%29%20231-9080 tel:%28540%29%20231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem. http://www.bevanlab.biochem./**vt.edu/Pages/Personal/** justin http://vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin http://vt.edu/Pages/Personal/**justinhttp://vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin http://www.bevanlab.biochem._**_vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin http://www.bevanlab.biochem.**vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justinhttp://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin ==**== -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org** http://lists.gromacs.org/**mailman/listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users http://lists.gromacs.org/__**mailman/listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/__mailman/listinfo/gmx-users http://lists.gromacs.org/__**mailman/listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/__mailman/listinfo/gmx-users http://lists.gromacs.org/**mailman/listinfo/gmx-usershttp://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/**Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchhttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search http://www.gromacs.org/__**Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchhttp://www.gromacs.org/__Support/Mailing_Lists/Search http://www.gromacs.org/__**Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchhttp://www.gromacs.org/__Support/Mailing_Lists/Search http://www.gromacs.org/**Support/Mailing_Lists/Searchhttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users-request@**gromacs.orggmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users-request@__gr**omacs.orghttp://gromacs.org/ mailto:gmx-users-request@**gromacs.orggmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org . Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/**Support/Mailing_Listshttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists http://www.gromacs.org/__**Support/Mailing_Listshttp://www.gromacs.org/__Support/Mailing_Lists http://www.gromacs.org/__**Support/Mailing_Listshttp://www.gromacs.org/__Support/Mailing_Lists http://www.gromacs.org/**Support/Mailing_Listshttp://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists My system is made of 10 ligands and one protein. I used command: g_hbond -f md.trr -s md.tpr -n res91.ndx -num 91with10LIGbonds.xvg
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
Steven Neumann wrote: One question for Glycine it is easy to assess 3 possible hbonds which can create as hydrogen is only one atom as a side chain. How about other amino acids and their maximum hbonds they can create? Any OH or NH group is a donor, any lone pair is an acceptor (though obviously not modeled explicitly in MD). The ability of MD force fields to agree with reality in this respect is debatable, but should come close. -Justin Steven On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Steven Neumann s.neuman...@gmail.com mailto:s.neuman...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for clarification Justin!!! The Manual is not as clear as you :P Steven On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote: Steven Neumann wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote: Steven Neumann wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote: Steven Neumann wrote: Hi Gromacs Users, I have calculated hydrogen bonds and collisions between my ligands and every single residue using g_hbond. Looking at the criteria adpoted by Gromacs I found impossible that number of hydrogen bonds were higher than number of collisions... And what is interesting in one of my residue I obtained result like this... All Hbonds with Glycine - 1872, All Collisions 704. Does anyone know how is it possible? I don't know how any of your numbers are possible (1872 H-bonds forming with a glycine?), or what you are defining as a collision and how you calculated it. Please provide the exact commands that you're using. If you're equating a contact (e.g. from g_mindist) with a collision, then realize that the default criteria for a contact are very different than the geometric criteria for a hydrogen bond. -Justin -- ==__== Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu http://vt.edu/ http://vt.edu/ http://vt.edu/ | (540) 231-9080 tel:%28540%29%20231-9080 tel:%28540%29%20231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem http://www.bevanlab.biochem/. http://www.bevanlab.biochem./__vt.edu/Pages/Personal/__justin http://vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin http://vt.edu/Pages/Personal/__justin http://vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin http://www.bevanlab.biochem. http://www.bevanlab.biochem./vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin http://vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin http://www.bevanlab.biochem.__vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin ==__== -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org__ http://lists.gromacs.org/__mailman/listinfo/gmx-users http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users http://lists.gromacs.org/__mailman/listinfo/gmx-users http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users http://lists.gromacs.org/__mailman/listinfo/gmx-users
[gmx-users] g_hbond simple question
Hi Guys, I am using g_hbond to analyze hbond between two groups. The manual says All hydrogen bonds between the two groups are analyzed. Does that mean even those hbonds do not hbond to neither of the two groups are still under consideration? Thanks, Yao -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond simple question
Yao Yao wrote: Hi Guys, I am using g_hbond to analyze hbond between two groups. The manual says All hydrogen bonds between the two groups are analyzed. Does that mean even those hbonds do not hbond to neither of the two groups are still under consideration? If it doesn't form a hydrogen bond, then it's not a hydrogen bond. A hydrogen bond is defined by the criteria described in the manual. If those criteria are not satisfied, the group does not form a hydrogen bond with whatever other group is examined at that time. -Justin -- Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_hbond
Hi, I am little confused about setting up the two groups in g_hbond. 1. Are the two groups corresponding to the donor (N) and the acceptor (O) atoms? I want to measure the lifetime, angle and distance of the triplet N-HO hydrogen bond. Is this the triplet that the manual talks about? Thanks for your insight. Simon -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_hbond
Hi, To help clarify my previous g_hbond question, I have these two groups in my index file [ a_100_a_101] # 100 is N, #101 is H 100 101 [ a_200 ] # 200 is O 200 when I ran g_hbond, I got Found 1 donors and 2 acceptors. The part that I don't quite understand is why it says 2 acceptors. Did I set up the groups correctly? Again, hope this clarifies my question. Thanks for your insight. Simon -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_hbond
From g_hbond -h OH and NH groups are regarded as donors, O is an acceptor always, N is an acceptor by default, but this can be switched using -nitacc. Dummy hydrogen atoms are assumed to be connected to the first preceding non-hydrogen atom. The two groups are to find hbonds between group A and group B. If you want to find hbonds within group A, then you specify an index group that contains group A two times. I think that you want: [ group ] 100 101 200 Then give group 2x as the identical index group. PS, there were problems with g_hbond a few months ago reported on list, I suggest that you check to ensure that these problems were fixed. Chris. -- original message -- Hi, To help clarify my previous g_hbond question, I have these two groups in my index file [ a_100_a_101] # 100 is N, #101 is H 100 101 [ a_200 ]# 200 is O 200 when I ran g_hbond, I got Found 1 donors and 2 acceptors. The part that I don't quite understand is why it says 2 acceptors. Did I set up the groups correctly? Again, hope this clarifies my question. Thanks for your insight. Simon -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_hbond/g_sas - how is it calculated?
Hi, I have a question related to the calculation of hydrogen bonds in Gromacs. As I read in Manual it comes from the distance between donor and acceptor ( = 0.35 nm) and the angle =30 degr beween hydrogen and acceptor. The question is - why 30 degr? How is it related to the reality? The second thing is the claculation of the accessible surface area (g_sas) of the molecule for instance? It is not explained in manual and I am really curious how g_sas makes these calculations. As my supervisors do not know the gromacs their questions are always about such details :) However, I think it is really important to understand what you are really doing using commands in Gromacs which provide you with really detailed results. Thank you in advance, Jan -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond/g_sas - how is it calculated?
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Marzinek, Jan j.marzine...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: Hi, I have a question related to the calculation of hydrogen bonds in Gromacs. As I read in Manual it comes from the distance between donor and acceptor ( = 0.35 nm) and the angle =30 degr beween hydrogen and acceptor. The question is - why 30 degr? How is it related to the reality? It's a default value, you can change it when you need. The second thing is the claculation of the accessible surface area (g_sas) of the molecule for instance? It is not explained in manual and I am really curious how g_sas makes these calculations. As my supervisors do not know the gromacs their questions are always about such details :) However, I think it is really important to understand what you are really doing using commands in Gromacs which provide you with really detailed results. All I can say is that, practice and problems are a good teacher. Thank you in advance, Jan -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- Best Regards, lina -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond/g_sas - how is it calculated?
Marzinek, Jan wrote: Hi, I have a question related to the calculation of hydrogen bonds in Gromacs. As I read in Manual it comes from the distance between donor and acceptor ( = 0.35 nm) and the angle =30 degr beween hydrogen and acceptor. The question is - why 30 degr? How is it related to the reality? Hydrogen bond strength decreases with distance between the donor and acceptor and with deviation from linearity. A survey of crystallographic structures shows that these are generally accepted criteria. There is literature on this that dates back many decades. The second thing is the claculation of the accessible surface area (g_sas) of the molecule for instance? It is not explained in manual and I am really curious how g_sas makes these calculations. I'd suggest you look at the citation provided in the PLEASE READ AND CITE THE FOLLOWING REFERENCE section printed when running g_sas :) -Justin As my supervisors do not know the gromacs their questions are always about such details :) However, I think it is really important to understand what you are really doing using commands in Gromacs which provide you with really detailed results. Thank you in advance, Jan -- Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_hbond in 4.5.4 gives wrong output
Dear all, g_hbond of gromacs4.0.7 and 4.5.4 gives different outputs in average hbond number. Is there any fix to g_hbond of 4.5.4? Any suggestions are appreciated. Bests, Bert -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond in 4.5.4 gives wrong output
Bert wrote: Dear all, g_hbond of gromacs4.0.7 and 4.5.4 gives different outputs in average hbond number. Is there any fix to g_hbond of 4.5.4? Any suggestions are appreciated. This is a known bug and is present (as far as I know) in all 4.5.x versions. There is no fix yet. -Justin Bests, Bert -- Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_hbond error
Hello gmx-users !! I tried using g_hbond tool to analyse h-bonds on my system. I could successfully execute the tool for two of my systems. But the third system should the memory problem. Below I have pasted my command and its output. *$ g_hbond -s ../md0-20.tpr -f 40-50.trr -n index_2.ndx -num hbnum.xvg -dist hbdist.xvg -ang hbang.xvg -life hblife.xvg -nice 0 -xvgr No option -sel Reading file ../md0-20.tpr, VERSION 4.0.7 (single precision) Specify 2 groups to analyze: Group 0 ( System) has 95687 elements Group 1 ( HNP) has10 elements Group 2 ( PE) has 192 elements Group 3 ( HP) has 216 elements Group 4 ( CPE) has 9 elements Group 5 ( SOL) has 95235 elements Group 6 ( Cl) has25 elements Group 7 ( N_H) has 126 elements Select a group: 5 Selected 5: 'SOL' Select a group: 7 Selected 7: 'N_H' Checking for overlap in atoms between SOL and N_H Calculating hydrogen bonds between SOL (95235 atoms) and N_H (126 atoms) Found 31795 donors and 31795 acceptors --- Program g_hbond, VERSION 4.0.7 Source code file: smalloc.c, line: 147 Fatal error: Not enough memory. Failed to calloc 31795 elements of size 4 for hb-hbmap[i] (called from file gmx_hbond.c, line 186) --- I Solve Problems (Pulp Fiction) : Cannot allocate memory Making hbmap structure...* Kindly help. -- Chandan kumar Choudhury NCL, Pune INDIA -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
Interesting. I can't see why that wouldn't be possible in theory, but there is a part of the code that would need rewriting, however. Erik Nilesh Dhumal skrev 2011-04-12 04.11: I tried to use contact and -da together with following command g_hbond -f 3.trr -s 3.tpr -n hbond19.ndx -nonitacc -noda -r 0.5 -contact -num I am getting following error. Fatal error:Can not analyze contact between H and A: turn off -noda Nilesh On Mon, April 11, 2011 5:05 pm, Nilesh Dhumal wrote: Is it possible to find number of hydrogen bonds using g_hbond by considering the distance between Acceptor-hydrogen instead of the distance between Acceptor-Donor atoms. Nilesh On Mon, April 11, 2011 3:32 pm, Erik Marklund wrote: Try the -contact option. Erik Nilesh Dhumal skrev 2011-04-11 17.12: Is there any way to specify clorin and florin atoms as a receptor. Nilesh On Mon, April 11, 2011 11:08 am, Justin A. Lemkul wrote: Nilesh Dhumal wrote: Hello, I am trying to calculate number of hydrogen bond (O-H---CL)in my system. I use the following command g_hbond -f 3.trr -s 3.tpr -n hbond18.ndx -nonitacc -num Output file hbnum.xvg shows zero number of hydorgen bond. Can you tell me why its showing zero no. A strong peak is found in rdf between H and CL at 2.0 A. Chlorine is not considered a receptor in g_hbond. -Justin I am using Gromacs 4.0.7 version. Nilesh -- Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- --- Erik Marklund, PhD student Dept. of Cell and Molecular Biology, Uppsala University. Husargatan 3, Box 596,75124 Uppsala, Sweden phone:+46 18 471 4537fax: +46 18 511 755 er...@xray.bmc.uu.sehttp://folding.bmc.uu.se/ -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- --- Erik Marklund, PhD student Dept. of Cell and Molecular Biology, Uppsala University. Husargatan 3, Box 596,75124 Uppsala, Sweden phone:+46 18 471 4537fax: +46 18 511 755 er...@xray.bmc.uu.sehttp://folding.bmc.uu.se/ -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_hbond
Hello, I am trying to calculate number of hydrogen bond (O-H---CL)in my system. I use the following command g_hbond -f 3.trr -s 3.tpr -n hbond18.ndx -nonitacc -num Output file hbnum.xvg shows zero number of hydorgen bond. Can you tell me why its showing zero no. A strong peak is found in rdf between H and CL at 2.0 A. I am using Gromacs 4.0.7 version. Nilesh -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
Nilesh Dhumal wrote: Hello, I am trying to calculate number of hydrogen bond (O-H---CL)in my system. I use the following command g_hbond -f 3.trr -s 3.tpr -n hbond18.ndx -nonitacc -num Output file hbnum.xvg shows zero number of hydorgen bond. Can you tell me why its showing zero no. A strong peak is found in rdf between H and CL at 2.0 A. Chlorine is not considered a receptor in g_hbond. -Justin I am using Gromacs 4.0.7 version. Nilesh -- Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
Is there any way to specify clorin and florin atoms as a receptor. Nilesh On Mon, April 11, 2011 11:08 am, Justin A. Lemkul wrote: Nilesh Dhumal wrote: Hello, I am trying to calculate number of hydrogen bond (O-H---CL)in my system. I use the following command g_hbond -f 3.trr -s 3.tpr -n hbond18.ndx -nonitacc -num Output file hbnum.xvg shows zero number of hydorgen bond. Can you tell me why its showing zero no. A strong peak is found in rdf between H and CL at 2.0 A. Chlorine is not considered a receptor in g_hbond. -Justin I am using Gromacs 4.0.7 version. Nilesh -- Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
Nilesh Dhumal wrote: Is there any way to specify clorin and florin atoms as a receptor. Modify the code. -Justin Nilesh On Mon, April 11, 2011 11:08 am, Justin A. Lemkul wrote: Nilesh Dhumal wrote: Hello, I am trying to calculate number of hydrogen bond (O-H---CL)in my system. I use the following command g_hbond -f 3.trr -s 3.tpr -n hbond18.ndx -nonitacc -num Output file hbnum.xvg shows zero number of hydorgen bond. Can you tell me why its showing zero no. A strong peak is found in rdf between H and CL at 2.0 A. Chlorine is not considered a receptor in g_hbond. -Justin I am using Gromacs 4.0.7 version. Nilesh -- Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
Try the -contact option. Erik Nilesh Dhumal skrev 2011-04-11 17.12: Is there any way to specify clorin and florin atoms as a receptor. Nilesh On Mon, April 11, 2011 11:08 am, Justin A. Lemkul wrote: Nilesh Dhumal wrote: Hello, I am trying to calculate number of hydrogen bond (O-H---CL)in my system. I use the following command g_hbond -f 3.trr -s 3.tpr -n hbond18.ndx -nonitacc -num Output file hbnum.xvg shows zero number of hydorgen bond. Can you tell me why its showing zero no. A strong peak is found in rdf between H and CL at 2.0 A. Chlorine is not considered a receptor in g_hbond. -Justin I am using Gromacs 4.0.7 version. Nilesh -- Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- --- Erik Marklund, PhD student Dept. of Cell and Molecular Biology, Uppsala University. Husargatan 3, Box 596,75124 Uppsala, Sweden phone:+46 18 471 4537fax: +46 18 511 755 er...@xray.bmc.uu.sehttp://folding.bmc.uu.se/ -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
Is it possible to find number of hydrogen bonds using g_hbond by considering the distance between Acceptor-hydrogen instead of the distance between Acceptor-Donor atoms. Nilesh On Mon, April 11, 2011 3:32 pm, Erik Marklund wrote: Try the -contact option. Erik Nilesh Dhumal skrev 2011-04-11 17.12: Is there any way to specify clorin and florin atoms as a receptor. Nilesh On Mon, April 11, 2011 11:08 am, Justin A. Lemkul wrote: Nilesh Dhumal wrote: Hello, I am trying to calculate number of hydrogen bond (O-H---CL)in my system. I use the following command g_hbond -f 3.trr -s 3.tpr -n hbond18.ndx -nonitacc -num Output file hbnum.xvg shows zero number of hydorgen bond. Can you tell me why its showing zero no. A strong peak is found in rdf between H and CL at 2.0 A. Chlorine is not considered a receptor in g_hbond. -Justin I am using Gromacs 4.0.7 version. Nilesh -- Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- --- Erik Marklund, PhD student Dept. of Cell and Molecular Biology, Uppsala University. Husargatan 3, Box 596,75124 Uppsala, Sweden phone:+46 18 471 4537fax: +46 18 511 755 er...@xray.bmc.uu.sehttp://folding.bmc.uu.se/ -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
When running g_hbond -h, I see the following, among other things: -[no]da bool yes Use distance Donor-Acceptor (if TRUE) or Hydrogen-Acceptor (FALSE) Hope that helps. Erik Nilesh Dhumal skrev 2011-04-11 23.05: Is it possible to find number of hydrogen bonds using g_hbond by considering the distance between Acceptor-hydrogen instead of the distance between Acceptor-Donor atoms. Nilesh On Mon, April 11, 2011 3:32 pm, Erik Marklund wrote: Try the -contact option. Erik Nilesh Dhumal skrev 2011-04-11 17.12: Is there any way to specify clorin and florin atoms as a receptor. Nilesh On Mon, April 11, 2011 11:08 am, Justin A. Lemkul wrote: Nilesh Dhumal wrote: Hello, I am trying to calculate number of hydrogen bond (O-H---CL)in my system. I use the following command g_hbond -f 3.trr -s 3.tpr -n hbond18.ndx -nonitacc -num Output file hbnum.xvg shows zero number of hydorgen bond. Can you tell me why its showing zero no. A strong peak is found in rdf between H and CL at 2.0 A. Chlorine is not considered a receptor in g_hbond. -Justin I am using Gromacs 4.0.7 version. Nilesh -- Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- --- Erik Marklund, PhD student Dept. of Cell and Molecular Biology, Uppsala University. Husargatan 3, Box 596,75124 Uppsala, Sweden phone:+46 18 471 4537fax: +46 18 511 755 er...@xray.bmc.uu.sehttp://folding.bmc.uu.se/ -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- --- Erik Marklund, PhD student Dept. of Cell and Molecular Biology, Uppsala University. Husargatan 3, Box 596,75124 Uppsala, Sweden phone:+46 18 471 4537fax: +46 18 511 755 er...@xray.bmc.uu.sehttp://folding.bmc.uu.se/ -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond
I tried to use contact and -da together with following command g_hbond -f 3.trr -s 3.tpr -n hbond19.ndx -nonitacc -noda -r 0.5 -contact -num I am getting following error. Fatal error:Can not analyze contact between H and A: turn off -noda Nilesh On Mon, April 11, 2011 5:05 pm, Nilesh Dhumal wrote: Is it possible to find number of hydrogen bonds using g_hbond by considering the distance between Acceptor-hydrogen instead of the distance between Acceptor-Donor atoms. Nilesh On Mon, April 11, 2011 3:32 pm, Erik Marklund wrote: Try the -contact option. Erik Nilesh Dhumal skrev 2011-04-11 17.12: Is there any way to specify clorin and florin atoms as a receptor. Nilesh On Mon, April 11, 2011 11:08 am, Justin A. Lemkul wrote: Nilesh Dhumal wrote: Hello, I am trying to calculate number of hydrogen bond (O-H---CL)in my system. I use the following command g_hbond -f 3.trr -s 3.tpr -n hbond18.ndx -nonitacc -num Output file hbnum.xvg shows zero number of hydorgen bond. Can you tell me why its showing zero no. A strong peak is found in rdf between H and CL at 2.0 A. Chlorine is not considered a receptor in g_hbond. -Justin I am using Gromacs 4.0.7 version. Nilesh -- Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- --- Erik Marklund, PhD student Dept. of Cell and Molecular Biology, Uppsala University. Husargatan 3, Box 596,75124 Uppsala, Sweden phone:+46 18 471 4537fax: +46 18 511 755 er...@xray.bmc.uu.sehttp://folding.bmc.uu.se/ -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_hbond output
@ legend length 2 @ s0 legend Hydrogen bonds @ s1 legend Pairs within 0.35 nm 0 0 0 200 0 0 400 2 1 600 0 3 800 0 2 1000 1 0 : -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond and 4.5.2 version
Dear Justin, maybe following information helps you. When I evaluated the number of hydrogen bonds between two different groups, particularly, water and frozen atoms of the siloxane surface I got the same results with both version of GROMACS, 4.0.3 and 4.5.2.GreetingsZuzanaOn 02/15/11, Zuzana Benkova zuzana.benk...@savba.sk wrote:Hello Justin, I was using cubic boxes. GreetingsZuzanaOn 02/15/11, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote:Justin A. Lemkul skrev 2011-02-09 23.03:Zuzana Benkova wrote:Dear GROMACS users,I have used g_hbond of version 4.5.2 to analyze number of hydrogen bonds in water. I got the average number per time frame and number of water oxygen atoms equal to 0.839. When I used g_hbond of version 4.0.7 I got 1.677, which is twice the former value. TIP3P model predicts over 3 hydrogen bonds per one water molecule. I am a bit puzzled. If I multiply the digit from version 4.0.7. by 2 I get the expected number. That is why I supposed that the number of 1.677 means per one water oxygen and per one water molecule means 2x1.677 since two water molecules participate at one hydrogen bond.However, I do not know yet if my interpretation is correct and how to interpret the number obtained by version 4.5.2.I would appreciate any help. Thank you in advance.Try pulling the latest stable development version. This issue was reported in 4.5.1:http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2010-October/054905.htmlbut not fixed until after 4.5.3 was released:http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2010-December/056406.html-JustinGreetingsZuzanaAre people who are reporting this error using a triclinic boxes or cuboid boxes. That information may help my bugfixing.-- ---Erik Marklund, PhD studentDept. of Cell and Molecular Biology, Uppsala University.Husargatan 3, Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Swedenphone: +46 18 471 4537 fax: +46 18 511 755er...@xray.bmc.uu.se http://folding.bmc.uu.se/-- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.orghttp://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-usersPlease search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting!Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org.Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond and 4.5.2 version
Hi, That suggets it's related to the new merge-on-the-fly-code and not the pbc handling. And it's me, not Justin, who's fixing and probably creating the bugs. :-) Cheers, Erik Zuzana Benkova skrev 2011-02-16 19.58: Dear Justin, maybe following information helps you. When I evaluated the number of hydrogen bonds between two different groups, particularly, water and frozen atoms of the siloxane surface I got the same results with both version of GROMACS, 4.0.3 and 4.5.2. Greetings Zuzana On 02/15/11, *Zuzana Benkova * zuzana.benk...@savba.sk wrote: Hello Justin, I was using cubic boxes. Greetings Zuzana On 02/15/11, *Erik Marklund * er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote: Justin A. Lemkul skrev 2011-02-09 23.03: Zuzana Benkova wrote: Dear GROMACS users, I have used g_hbond of version 4.5.2 to analyze number of hydrogen bonds in water. I got the average number per time frame and number of water oxygen atoms equal to 0.839. When I used g_hbond of version 4.0.7 I got 1.677, which is twice the former value. TIP3P model predicts over 3 hydrogen bonds per one water molecule. I am a bit puzzled. If I multiply the digit from version 4.0.7. by 2 I get the expected number. That is why I supposed that the number of 1.677 means per one water oxygen and per one water molecule means 2x1.677 since two water molecules participate at one hydrogen bond. However, I do not know yet if my interpretation is correct and how to interpret the number obtained by version 4.5.2. I would appreciate any help. Thank you in advance. Try pulling the latest stable development version. This issue was reported in 4.5.1: http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2010-October/054905.html but not fixed until after 4.5.3 was released: http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2010-December/056406.html -Justin Greetings Zuzana Are people who are reporting this error using a triclinic boxes or cuboid boxes. That information may help my bugfixing. -- --- Erik Marklund, PhD student Dept. of Cell and Molecular Biology, Uppsala University. Husargatan 3, Box 596,75124 Uppsala, Sweden phone:+46 18 471 4537fax: +46 18 511 755 er...@xray.bmc.uu.se http://folding.bmc.uu.se/ -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- --- Erik Marklund, PhD student Dept. of Cell and Molecular Biology, Uppsala University. Husargatan 3, Box 596,75124 Uppsala, Sweden phone:+46 18 471 4537fax: +46 18 511 755 er...@xray.bmc.uu.sehttp://folding.bmc.uu.se/ -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond and 4.5.2 version
Justin A. Lemkul skrev 2011-02-09 23.03: Zuzana Benkova wrote: Dear GROMACS users, I have used g_hbond of version 4.5.2 to analyze number of hydrogen bonds in water. I got the average number per time frame and number of water oxygen atoms equal to 0.839. When I used g_hbond of version 4.0.7 I got 1.677, which is twice the former value. TIP3P model predicts over 3 hydrogen bonds per one water molecule. I am a bit puzzled. If I multiply the digit from version 4.0.7. by 2 I get the expected number. That is why I supposed that the number of 1.677 means per one water oxygen and per one water molecule means 2x1.677 since two water molecules participate at one hydrogen bond. However, I do not know yet if my interpretation is correct and how to interpret the number obtained by version 4.5.2. I would appreciate any help. Thank you in advance. Try pulling the latest stable development version. This issue was reported in 4.5.1: http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2010-October/054905.html but not fixed until after 4.5.3 was released: http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2010-December/056406.html -Justin Greetings Zuzana Are people who are reporting this error using a triclinic boxes or cuboid boxes. That information may help my bugfixing. -- --- Erik Marklund, PhD student Dept. of Cell and Molecular Biology, Uppsala University. Husargatan 3, Box 596,75124 Uppsala, Sweden phone:+46 18 471 4537fax: +46 18 511 755 er...@xray.bmc.uu.sehttp://folding.bmc.uu.se/ -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond and 4.5.2 version
Hello Justin, I was using cubic boxes. GreetingsZuzanaOn 02/15/11, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote:Justin A. Lemkul skrev 2011-02-09 23.03:Zuzana Benkova wrote:Dear GROMACS users,I have used g_hbond of version 4.5.2 to analyze number of hydrogen bonds in water. I got the average number per time frame and number of water oxygen atoms equal to 0.839. When I used g_hbond of version 4.0.7 I got 1.677, which is twice the former value. TIP3P model predicts over 3 hydrogen bonds per one water molecule. I am a bit puzzled. If I multiply the digit from version 4.0.7. by 2 I get the expected number. That is why I supposed that the number of 1.677 means per one water oxygen and per one water molecule means 2x1.677 since two water molecules participate at one hydrogen bond.However, I do not know yet if my interpretation is correct and how to interpret the number obtained by version 4.5.2.I would appreciate any help. Thank you in advance.Try pulling the latest stable development version. This issue was reported in 4.5.1:http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2010-October/054905.htmlbut not fixed until after 4.5.3 was released:http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2010-December/056406.html-JustinGreetingsZuzanaAre people who are reporting this error using a triclinic boxes or cuboid boxes. That information may help my bugfixing.-- ---Erik Marklund, PhD studentDept. of Cell and Molecular Biology, Uppsala University.Husargatan 3, Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Swedenphone: +46 18 471 4537 fax: +46 18 511 755er...@xray.bmc.uu.se http://folding.bmc.uu.se/-- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.orghttp://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-usersPlease search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting!Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org.Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_hbond and 4.5.2 version
Dear GROMACS users,I have used g_hbond of version 4.5.2 to analyze number of hydrogen bonds in water. I got the average number per time frame and number of water oxygen atoms equal to 0.839. When I used g_hbond of version 4.0.7 I got 1.677, which is twice the former value. TIP3P model predicts over 3 hydrogen bonds per one water molecule. I am a bit puzzled. If I multiply the digit from version 4.0.7. by 2 I get the expected number. That is why I supposed that the number of 1.677 means per one water oxygen and per one water molecule means 2x1.677 since two water molecules participate at one hydrogen bond. However, I do not know yet if my interpretation is correct and how to interpret the number obtained by version 4.5.2. I would appreciate any help. Thank you in advance.GreetingsZuzana -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond and 4.5.2 version
Zuzana Benkova wrote: Dear GROMACS users, I have used g_hbond of version 4.5.2 to analyze number of hydrogen bonds in water. I got the average number per time frame and number of water oxygen atoms equal to 0.839. When I used g_hbond of version 4.0.7 I got 1.677, which is twice the former value. TIP3P model predicts over 3 hydrogen bonds per one water molecule. I am a bit puzzled. If I multiply the digit from version 4.0.7. by 2 I get the expected number. That is why I supposed that the number of 1.677 means per one water oxygen and per one water molecule means 2x1.677 since two water molecules participate at one hydrogen bond. However, I do not know yet if my interpretation is correct and how to interpret the number obtained by version 4.5.2. I would appreciate any help. Thank you in advance. Try pulling the latest stable development version. This issue was reported in 4.5.1: http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2010-October/054905.html but not fixed until after 4.5.3 was released: http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2010-December/056406.html -Justin Greetings Zuzana -- Justin A. Lemkul Ph.D. Candidate ICTAS Doctoral Scholar MILES-IGERT Trainee Department of Biochemistry Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond results inconsistent between v4.0.7 and v4.5.1
Hi All: Has there been further resolution on the difference between g_hbond in v 4.0 and 4.5 (I'm running 4.5.3)? For counting water-water (tip4p) h-bonds in a box of 506 waters I get the following nhbdist output, which appears to neglect pbc since there are such a large number of unbound donor-H (and the other columns are consequently too low): @title Number of donor-H with N HBs @xaxis label Time (ps) @yaxis label N @TYPE xy @ view 0.15, 0.15, 0.75, 0.85 @ legend on @ legend box on @ legend loctype view @ legend 0.78, 0.8 @ legend length 2 @ s0 legend 0 HBs @ s1 legend 1 HB @ s2 legend 2 HBs @ s3 legend 3 HBs @ s4 legend Total 0.0e+00 706 174 132 0 438 1.0e-01 708 163 140 1 446 2.0e-01 707 168 137 0 442 3.0e-01 712 161 136 3 442 4.0e-01 713 165 134 0 433 5.0e-01 709 169 133 1 438 6.0e-01 705 169 137 1 446 7.0e-01 699 169 142 2 459 8.0e-01 710 167 133 2 439 9.0e-01 700 189 122 1 436 1.0e+00 707 169 136 0 441 1.1e+00 705 163 144 0 451 1.2e+00 707 171 133 1 440 1.3e+00 709 158 145 0 448 1.4e+00 718 155 138 1 434 1.5e+00 711 164 137 0 438 1.6e+00 713 160 139 0 438 1.7e+00 702 181 129 0 439 1.8e+00 707 162 142 1 449 1.9e+00 706 167 139 0 445 2.0e+00 709 168 135 0 438 2.1e+00 708 167 136 1 442 2.2e+00 708 171 133 0 437 2.3e+00 709 162 140 1 445 2.4e+00 698 171 142 1 458 2.5e+00 701 177 133 1 446 2.6e+00 706 177 129 0 435 2.7e+00 708 178 126 0 430 2.8e+00 698 187 127 0 441 2.9e+00 700 190 120 2 436 3.0e+00 703 176 131 2 444 3.1e+00 702 181 127 2 441 3.2e+00 694 184 134 0 452 I've tried playing with different index assignments, and I get what appears to be a reasonable output for 0 HBs by making the two groups appear different, excluding the dummy atom from one. Although, because the program then double counts, the other columns don't convey the intended information. Robin -- Robin C. Underwood Chemistry Department 560 Oval Drive West Lafayette, IN 47907 -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond results inconsistent between v4.0.7 and v4.5.1
Hi, No. But I hope to get it done this week. Thanks for the reminder. Erik Robin C. Underwood skrev 2010-12-05 19.19: Hi All: Has there been further resolution on the difference between g_hbond in v 4.0 and 4.5 (I'm running 4.5.3)? For counting water-water (tip4p) h-bonds in a box of 506 waters I get the following nhbdist output, which appears to neglect pbc since there are such a large number of unbound donor-H (and the other columns are consequently too low): @title Number of donor-H with N HBs @xaxis label Time (ps) @yaxis label N @TYPE xy @ view 0.15, 0.15, 0.75, 0.85 @ legend on @ legend box on @ legend loctype view @ legend 0.78, 0.8 @ legend length 2 @ s0 legend 0 HBs @ s1 legend 1 HB @ s2 legend 2 HBs @ s3 legend 3 HBs @ s4 legend Total 0.0e+00 706 174 132 0 438 1.0e-01 708 163 140 1 446 2.0e-01 707 168 137 0 442 3.0e-01 712 161 136 3 442 4.0e-01 713 165 134 0 433 5.0e-01 709 169 133 1 438 6.0e-01 705 169 137 1 446 7.0e-01 699 169 142 2 459 8.0e-01 710 167 133 2 439 9.0e-01 700 189 122 1 436 1.0e+00 707 169 136 0 441 1.1e+00 705 163 144 0 451 1.2e+00 707 171 133 1 440 1.3e+00 709 158 145 0 448 1.4e+00 718 155 138 1 434 1.5e+00 711 164 137 0 438 1.6e+00 713 160 139 0 438 1.7e+00 702 181 129 0 439 1.8e+00 707 162 142 1 449 1.9e+00 706 167 139 0 445 2.0e+00 709 168 135 0 438 2.1e+00 708 167 136 1 442 2.2e+00 708 171 133 0 437 2.3e+00 709 162 140 1 445 2.4e+00 698 171 142 1 458 2.5e+00 701 177 133 1 446 2.6e+00 706 177 129 0 435 2.7e+00 708 178 126 0 430 2.8e+00 698 187 127 0 441 2.9e+00 700 190 120 2 436 3.0e+00 703 176 131 2 444 3.1e+00 702 181 127 2 441 3.2e+00 694 184 134 0 452 I've tried playing with different index assignments, and I get what appears to be a reasonable output for 0 HBs by making the two groups appear different, excluding the dummy atom from one. Although, because the program then double counts, the other columns don't convey the intended information. Robin -- --- Erik Marklund, PhD student Dept. of Cell and Molecular Biology, Uppsala University. Husargatan 3, Box 596,75124 Uppsala, Sweden phone:+46 18 471 4537fax: +46 18 511 755 er...@xray.bmc.uu.sehttp://folding.bmc.uu.se/ -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
[gmx-users] g_hbond -ac -life
Dear gromacs users I used g_hbond -f .trr -s .tpr -n .ndx -ac -life. Can anyone clarify last 2 columns in hblife.xvg and last 4 columns hbac.xvg files by details. Also, I want to know what is difference between p(t) in hblife.xvg and c(t) in hbac.xvg file? which of them is more suitable for HB lifetime? any help will highly appreciated -- gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists