gnhlug-jobs mailing list moderation
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 2:29 PM, a message from Courtney Homer [EMAIL PROTECTED] was posted to the gnhlug-jobs mailing list. It had no Linux-related content. She quickly followed up with an apology to the list-owner address, saying she mistakenly sent her message to the wrong list. That list originally had a hold every post for moderation configuration. I don't know/remember how/why that got changed to allow any post from any subscriber. It might have been an oversight when we switched to liberty from rouge. In any event, I've switched it back to the hold every post model, which should prevent such mistakes from getting through in the future. I should be able to tend the moderator queue myself (it's a very low traffic list), but if some other people want to volunteer to assist, I won't say no. :) -- Ben ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: gnhlug-jobs mailing list moderation
I believe it's easy enough to setup mailman to require Linux in the body of the message. This would deal with both spam and non-linux job apps. Add a few other possible whitelist keywords (ie, Redhat, Fedora, Ubuntu, Suse, Python, Ruby, PHP) and in the rejection message specify that only job apps for Linux-related jobs are allowable... Automatic moderation. On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Sep 11, 2008, at 16:42, Ben Scott wrote: I should be able to tend the moderator queue myself (it's a very low traffic list), but if some other people want to volunteer to assist, I won't say no. :) I was perplexed as well, thanks for the follow-up. Yeah, if you want to handle the load, bless your heart. But I'd rather deal with one bad post every two years than have to do any moderation. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/ ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: gnhlug-jobs mailing list moderation
I think looking for various words can produce both false positives and false negatives. And you still won't catch everything. Using your abbreviated list as an example, there's no perl, open source, or kernel keywords. Also, not all jobs are technical (marketing, sales, ...) Not that we've seen requests for these jobs, but we would be interested in them. If mailman would score messages for reviewers, then that might help. But reviewers might also get lazy and just click buttons rather than reviewing each article. Without a lot of AI, I think it would be more effective to just review each message. --Bruce Arc Riley wrote: I believe it's easy enough to setup mailman to require Linux in the body of the message. This would deal with both spam and non-linux job apps. Add a few other possible whitelist keywords (ie, Redhat, Fedora, Ubuntu, Suse, Python, Ruby, PHP) and in the rejection message specify that only job apps for Linux-related jobs are allowable... Automatic moderation. On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Sep 11, 2008, at 16:42, Ben Scott wrote: I should be able to tend the moderator queue myself (it's a very low traffic list), but if some other people want to volunteer to assist, I won't say no. :) I was perplexed as well, thanks for the follow-up. Yeah, if you want to handle the load, bless your heart. But I'd rather deal with one bad post every two years than have to do any moderation. ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: gnhlug-jobs mailing list moderation
On Sep 11, 2008, at 21:12, Bruce Dawson wrote: Without a lot of AI, I think it would be more effective to just review each message. Would it be reasonable to give messages a pass based on a filter, and require moderation if they fail that pass? -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: gnhlug-jobs mailing list moderation
Bill McGonigle wrote: On Sep 11, 2008, at 21:12, Bruce Dawson wrote: Without a lot of AI, I think it would be more effective to just review each message. Would it be reasonable to give messages a pass based on a filter, and require moderation if they fail that pass? -Bill Sure; for now. Invariably, spammers will discover it, and we'll have to throttle everything then. BTW: I've added myself as a moderator of the jobs list. --Bruce ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: gnhlug-jobs mailing list moderation
[reply to multiple messages] On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And it was an on-topic post, in the sense it was for a computer technician. The list charter is quite explict about requiring Linux. If someone wants Dice.com, they know where to find it. :) (I took the liberty of explicitly expanding Linux to Linux, Unix and/or Open Source in the list description as all this happened.) On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I'd rather deal with one bad post every two years than have to do any moderation. That list gets maybe one or two messages during a busy month. I get other listmaster crap daily. Granted, most of it I delete on sight, but point is, if we're worried about conserving listmaster time, gnhlug-jobs isn't the place to start trimming the budget. :) On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 8:12 PM, Arc Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe it's easy enough to setup mailman to require Linux in the body of the message. Given the low volume of traffic, I'm not worried about it. This would deal with both spam and non-linux job apps. We counter the spam problem by a combination of: 1. Mail from non-subscribers is silently discarded. 2. Subscribe attempts must respond to a confirmation message. So far, that's kept the spammers out. Of course, it means you have to subscribe to post, but I consider that a feature most of them time. :) -- Ben ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
