date:20230504

added note this was installed as per 4.9 release notes.

---
Change the handling of accelerator maps. Gtk no longer supports changing these 
from the menus and the save no longer writes out the accelerators that have 
their default values, so to assist users editing them we have generated default 
ones that we include with GnuCash and have disabled saving when quitting 
GnuCash. At startup GnuCash will check for the presence of the file 
accelerator-map in 
GNC_CONFIG_HOME
 and if it's not found will copy in the default one.
--

So if you delete your existing accelerator-map file and restart Gnucash, it 
will copy the default one which you can modify

Saludos Cordiales

Murugan

From: gnucash-user 
 on behalf of 
Murugan Muruganandam 
Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2023 9:46 PM
To: jbonn...@internode.on.net ; 
gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Lost Keyboard Accelerator feature

please use the attached accelerator map file.  some of the tags have changed, i 
tried it in windows the following keys and it works fine

(gtk_accel_path "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleRadioAction/0" 
"1")
(gtk_accel_path "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleRadioAction/1" 
"2")
(gtk_accel_path "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleRadioAction/2" 
"3")

Saludos Cordiales

Murugan

From: gnucash-user 
 on behalf of 
jbonn...@internode.on.net 
Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2023 6:17 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Lost Keyboard Accelerator feature

HI All,

I am experiencing this same problem as Michael with key actions for the
register display options on Windows. The file with the commented-out lines
is still present but seems to be ignored. The key accelerator for Double
line mode is still working though, but not the other 3 I had.

I am running on a recent nightly build of v5.1 (2023-04-30), which fixed the
online quotes problem for me, but the accelerator keys are still not
working.

I had reported this problem on the list in v5.0, but got no response.

Best Regards,
John Bonnett

On 5/4/23 9:12 AM, Michael Hendry wrote:
> On Tuesday (2nd May) I upgraded to version 5.1.1 on my iMac (Ventura
13.3.1), and have lost the use of Cmd-1, Cmd-2 and Cmd-3 as keyboard
accelerators to change between Basic Ledger, Autosplit Ledger and
Transaction Journal views.
>
> Cmd-j switches between accounts, as before.
>
> The accelerator-map file(date-stamped 2nd May) includes the following
(uncommented) lines:
>
> (gtk_accel_path
> "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/JumpTransactionAction"
> "j")
>
> (gtk_accel_path
> "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleBasicAction"
> "1") (gtk_accel_path
> "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleAutoSplitAction"
> "2") (gtk_accel_path
> "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleJournalAction"
> "3")
>
> If I remember correctly, the first one (Cmd-j) was already set up by
default in earlier versions of GNC, but I had to uncomment the last three to
enable the Journal View accelerators.
>
> Anyone else affected by this?

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Re: [GNC] Lost Keyboard Accelerator feature

please use the attached accelerator map file.  some of the tags have changed, i 
tried it in windows the following keys and it works fine

(gtk_accel_path "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleRadioAction/0" 
"1")
(gtk_accel_path "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleRadioAction/1" 
"2")
(gtk_accel_path "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleRadioAction/2" 
"3")

Saludos Cordiales

Murugan

From: gnucash-user 
 on behalf of 
jbonn...@internode.on.net 
Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2023 6:17 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Lost Keyboard Accelerator feature

HI All,

I am experiencing this same problem as Michael with key actions for the
register display options on Windows. The file with the commented-out lines
is still present but seems to be ignored. The key accelerator for Double
line mode is still working though, but not the other 3 I had.

I am running on a recent nightly build of v5.1 (2023-04-30), which fixed the
online quotes problem for me, but the accelerator keys are still not
working.

I had reported this problem on the list in v5.0, but got no response.

Best Regards,
John Bonnett

On 5/4/23 9:12 AM, Michael Hendry wrote:
> On Tuesday (2nd May) I upgraded to version 5.1.1 on my iMac (Ventura
13.3.1), and have lost the use of Cmd-1, Cmd-2 and Cmd-3 as keyboard
accelerators to change between Basic Ledger, Autosplit Ledger and
Transaction Journal views.
>
> Cmd-j switches between accounts, as before.
>
> The accelerator-map file(date-stamped 2nd May) includes the following
(uncommented) lines:
>
> (gtk_accel_path
> "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/JumpTransactionAction"
> "j")
>
> (gtk_accel_path
> "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleBasicAction"
> "1") (gtk_accel_path
> "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleAutoSplitAction"
> "2") (gtk_accel_path
> "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleJournalAction"
> "3")
>
> If I remember correctly, the first one (Cmd-j) was already set up by
default in earlier versions of GNC, but I had to uncomment the last three to
enable the Journal View accelerators.
>
> Anyone else affected by this?

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[GNC] Trouble Changing Imported Descriptions

2023-05-04 Thread Paul Kroitor

This is part 2 of a two-part question about imported transactions.

 

My bank invariably imports transactions in barely readable technical jargon.
For example, a debit card purchase at Villeneuve & Sons comes into the
Aqbanking importer as:

 

"[PR]L. VILLENEUVE &"

 

My problem is that it's nearly impossible to correct this description to
"Villeneuve". I can type V, Vi, or even Villeneuve into the description and,
upon pressing enter, it will jump back to the original description (because,
apparently, that string is in the original version of the field, despite in
being in a different case). Even typing Villeneuve doesn't work. The
only way it will retain my lower-case version is if I type
Villeneuve, which it will keep (because Villeneuve followed
two spaces is not in the original).

 

I understand why Gnucash needs to consider Villeneuve and VILLENEUVE as
being the same entry, but not why it can't see that a manual override to
"Villeneuve" should be reverted back to "[PR]L. VILLENEUVE &". There must be
a way to say I want to enter my own version of the name!

 

This is driving me crazy!

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[GNC] YahooJSON API Non Functional Again

2023-05-04 Thread Bruce Schuck

The URL used for fetching quotes in YahooJSON (yahoo_json method) is 
once again not working.


Known issue, so please do not open a new issue at 
https://github.com/finance-quote/finance-quote/issues or 
https://rt.cpan.org//Dist/Display.html?Queue=Finance-Quote. I have 
reopened https://github.com/finance-quote/finance-quote/issues/264 and 
will look at using one of the alternative sources noted in the comments.


In the meantime I suggest switching to AlphaVantage (don't forget to 
acquire and set an API token). See 
https://www.alphavantage.co/support/#api-key


- Bruce S.
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Re: [GNC] Memorized Payees (aka Import Map) vs Renaming Rules

2023-05-04 Thread Paul Kroitor

Correction:

So for example, an incoming bank transaction:

TF 2023 2034-302   D $100

Could be automatically changed to:

Transfer to Fred   Monthly Alimony D $100

The first facility adds the "Monthly Alimony" counter-account, and the
second does the description change ("TF 2023 2034-302" => Transfer to Fred).

(Note the key fixed typo at the end of the previous line!)
Sorry for the confusion.

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user  On
Behalf Of Paul Kroitor
Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2023 8:04 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] Memorized Payees (aka Import Map) vs Renaming Rules

Hi, I have two (mildly) related questions, but I will post them separately,
so the threads don't get confused.

 

Quicken has two facilities upon transaction import that interact with each
other:

1.Suggests a counter account (Quicken calls some of them
categories) based upon what was done with earlier transactions with the same
characteristics.

2.Translates the bank-supplied description entry into something
more friendly (Quicken call these "Renaming Rules").

 

So for example, an incoming bank transaction:

 

TF 2023 2034-302   D $100

 

Could be automatically changed to:

 

Transfer to Fred   Monthly Alimony D $100

 

The first facility adds the "Monthly Alimony" counter-account, and the
second does the description change ("TF 2023 2034-302" => Monthly Alimony).

 

My question is this: Gnucash does the first part well with its Import Map
feature. Is there anything that can do the second part for me?

 

Thanks as always for all help,

Paul  

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[GNC] Memorized Payees (aka Import Map) vs Renaming Rules

2023-05-04 Thread Paul Kroitor

Hi, I have two (mildly) related questions, but I will post them separately,
so the threads don't get confused.

 

Quicken has two facilities upon transaction import that interact with each
other:

1.Suggests a counter account (Quicken calls some of them
categories) based upon what was done with earlier transactions with the same
characteristics.

2.Translates the bank-supplied description entry into something
more friendly (Quicken call these "Renaming Rules").

 

So for example, an incoming bank transaction:

 

TF 2023 2034-302   D $100

 

Could be automatically changed to:

 

Transfer to Fred   Monthly Alimony D $100

 

The first facility adds the "Monthly Alimony" counter-account, and the
second does the description change ("TF 2023 2034-302" => Monthly Alimony).

 

My question is this: Gnucash does the first part well with its Import Map
feature. Is there anything that can do the second part for me?

 

Thanks as always for all help,

Paul  

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Re: [GNC] Yahoo JSON - throwing unauthorized error

2023-05-04 Thread Ken Farley

Don't know if this is going to be a periodic thing that happens, or if 
it is just me, but this is going on again. Guess I'll wait a day or two 
and see if it "recovers", unless someone feels it's only my setup that 
is failing...

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Re: [GNC] Lost Keyboard Accelerator feature

2023-05-04 Thread jbonnett

HI All,

I am experiencing this same problem as Michael with key actions for the
register display options on Windows. The file with the commented-out lines
is still present but seems to be ignored. The key accelerator for Double
line mode is still working though, but not the other 3 I had.

I am running on a recent nightly build of v5.1 (2023-04-30), which fixed the
online quotes problem for me, but the accelerator keys are still not
working.

I had reported this problem on the list in v5.0, but got no response.

Best Regards,
John Bonnett

On 5/4/23 9:12 AM, Michael Hendry wrote:
> On Tuesday (2nd May) I upgraded to version 5.1.1 on my iMac (Ventura
13.3.1), and have lost the use of Cmd-1, Cmd-2 and Cmd-3 as keyboard
accelerators to change between Basic Ledger, Autosplit Ledger and
Transaction Journal views.
> 
> Cmd-j switches between accounts, as before.
> 
> The accelerator-map file(date-stamped 2nd May) includes the following
(uncommented) lines:
> 
> (gtk_accel_path 
> "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/JumpTransactionAction" 
> "j")
> 
> (gtk_accel_path 
> "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleBasicAction" 
> "1") (gtk_accel_path 
> "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleAutoSplitAction" 
> "2") (gtk_accel_path 
> "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleJournalAction" 
> "3")
> 
> If I remember correctly, the first one (Cmd-j) was already set up by
default in earlier versions of GNC, but I had to uncomment the last three to
enable the Journal View accelerators.
> 
> Anyone else affected by this?

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Re: [GNC] Auto commit with auto save?

2023-05-04 Thread David Carlson

David,

Perhaps you could call it a work-around, but years ago I trained myself to
never leave my computer without looking at the titlebar for that teltale
asterisk before the filename, and saving the file if it is there.  Then, if
GnuCash complains about an unsaved transaction, I get a chance to fix it.

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 4:31 PM David G. Pickett via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> I often accidentally leave a transaction complete but with the cursor of
> that sheet still on the same line, so despite an aggressive auto save
> setting, such a transaction is not committed to the saved image.  Of
> course, if it is not in valid form, it cannot be committed!  But if the
> host goes down or gnucash terminates for any reason not a stable
> interactive exit, despite the auto save, the entire transaction or any
> change is lost.  I would like an option to auto-commit such transactions,
> if valid, before the timed auto save.
>
> For me, this creates loss of input when I run my nightly cron job for
> quotes, where I kill any running gnucash and remove any lock to allow the
> quote additions.  (A side thought would to have the quote fetch built into
> the interactive gnucash such that it has a way to get quotes without being
> killed.  Maybe a gnucash service daemon that could negotiate the updates
> with any running interactive gnucash or do the updates if no interactive
> gnucash is running?  That in turn suggests a gnucash with a service and
> multiple interactive sessions so changes in any interactive session could
> be notified to other interactive sessions, supporting both quotes from a
> crontab scheduled service internal or external, and multiple interactive
> users to support larger enterprises.)
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[GNC] Auto commit with auto save?

2023-05-04 Thread David G. Pickett via gnucash-user

I often accidentally leave a transaction complete but with the cursor of that 
sheet still on the same line, so despite an aggressive auto save setting, such 
a transaction is not committed to the saved image.  Of course, if it is not in 
valid form, it cannot be committed!  But if the host goes down or gnucash 
terminates for any reason not a stable interactive exit, despite the auto save, 
the entire transaction or any change is lost.  I would like an option to 
auto-commit such transactions, if valid, before the timed auto save.

For me, this creates loss of input when I run my nightly cron job for quotes, 
where I kill any running gnucash and remove any lock to allow the quote 
additions.  (A side thought would to have the quote fetch built into the 
interactive gnucash such that it has a way to get quotes without being killed.  
Maybe a gnucash service daemon that could negotiate the updates with any 
running interactive gnucash or do the updates if no interactive gnucash is 
running?  That in turn suggests a gnucash with a service and multiple 
interactive sessions so changes in any interactive session could be notified to 
other interactive sessions, supporting both quotes from a crontab scheduled 
service internal or external, and multiple interactive users to support larger 
enterprises.)
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Re: [GNC] 5.1 - New Description Memory Option?

Ah forget that it does actually do a new search, sorry for the noise,

Cheers David H.

On Fri, 5 May 2023 at 07:04, David H  wrote:

> You say 20, I counted 30 on macOS :-)  The thing I don't like much about
> it is you enter for example an e and you get 20/30 entries then typing
> further letters to refine the search it only seems to narrow down the
> results from the initial subset of search results instead of refreshing the
> actual search results.
>
> Cheers David H.
>
>
> On Fri, 5 May 2023 at 03:01, Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
>
>> I think it is the same/similar code used for account selection. (and
>> that feature *greatly* speeds up entry)
>>
>> The idea is that you don't *have* to know or recall how something is
>> spelled *in order* and thus get all options so you can choose the right
>> one.
>>
>> While that is intended, and can be helpful, there are certainly times
>> where it slows you down. I haven't noticed on the Description line, but
>> I know account lookup is limited to 20 results. This can pose a problem
>> if the desired account is not shown in those 20 results as you can't
>> scroll to it at all. This forces a more complicated 'lookup' entry or
>> resorting to the old-school a:b:c shorthand to get what you want. I can
>> only imagine that if the Description field has this same limitation,
>> that can be another complication.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>>
>> On 5/4/23 11:17 AM, Jack Slater wrote:
>> > I did that and it's now only 12! The oddity for me is that not only is
>> the
>> > list long but in my mind typing "jo" should start a list that begins
>> with
>> > jo, not al johnsons, happy joes and jimmie johns!
>> >
>> > On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 10:24 AM Gyle McCollam 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I know it involves an extra keystroke, but type "jo".  At least then
>> you
>> >> don't have to use the down arrow 20 or more times.
>>
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Re: [GNC] 5.1 - New Description Memory Option?

You say 20, I counted 30 on macOS :-)  The thing I don't like much about it
is you enter for example an e and you get 20/30 entries then typing further
letters to refine the search it only seems to narrow down the results from
the initial subset of search results instead of refreshing the actual
search results.

Cheers David H.


On Fri, 5 May 2023 at 03:01, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> I think it is the same/similar code used for account selection. (and
> that feature *greatly* speeds up entry)
>
> The idea is that you don't *have* to know or recall how something is
> spelled *in order* and thus get all options so you can choose the right
> one.
>
> While that is intended, and can be helpful, there are certainly times
> where it slows you down. I haven't noticed on the Description line, but
> I know account lookup is limited to 20 results. This can pose a problem
> if the desired account is not shown in those 20 results as you can't
> scroll to it at all. This forces a more complicated 'lookup' entry or
> resorting to the old-school a:b:c shorthand to get what you want. I can
> only imagine that if the Description field has this same limitation,
> that can be another complication.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 5/4/23 11:17 AM, Jack Slater wrote:
> > I did that and it's now only 12! The oddity for me is that not only is
> the
> > list long but in my mind typing "jo" should start a list that begins with
> > jo, not al johnsons, happy joes and jimmie johns!
> >
> > On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 10:24 AM Gyle McCollam 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I know it involves an extra keystroke, but type "jo".  At least then you
> >> don't have to use the down arrow 20 or more times.
>
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Re: [GNC] Lost Keyboard Accelerator feature

There was a bit of a discussion about defining keystrokes in this thread
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-April/106344.html
last month.

Cheers David H.


On Fri, 5 May 2023 at 05:54, David H  wrote:

> Michael,
>
> Yeah I have the exact same issue, all good up until 4.14 / 5.0 on MacOS /
> Win 10 / Win 11 / Ubuntu 23.04.  It's like the file location has been
> changed behind the scenes. I seem to recall I mentioned it a while back but
> nobody paid any attention, devs probably fixing issues etc.
>
> Cheers David H.
>
> On Fri, 5 May 2023 at 00:13, Michael Hendry 
> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday (2nd May) I upgraded to version 5.1.1 on my iMac (Ventura
>> 13.3.1), and have lost the use of Cmd-1, Cmd-2 and Cmd-3 as keyboard
>> accelerators to change between Basic Ledger, Autosplit Ledger and
>> Transaction Journal views.
>>
>> Cmd-j switches between accounts, as before.
>>
>> The accelerator-map file(date-stamped 2nd May) includes the following
>> (uncommented) lines:
>>
>> (gtk_accel_path
>> "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/JumpTransactionAction" "j")
>>
>> (gtk_accel_path
>> "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleBasicAction" "1")
>> (gtk_accel_path
>> "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleAutoSplitAction"
>> "2")
>> (gtk_accel_path
>> "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleJournalAction"
>> "3")
>>
>> If I remember correctly, the first one (Cmd-j) was already set up by
>> default in earlier versions of GNC, but I had to uncomment the last three
>> to enable the Journal View accelerators.
>>
>> Anyone else affected by this?
>>
>> Michael
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Re: [GNC] Release Notes?

2023-05-04 Thread Glenn Fowler

https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 3:39 PM Jonathan A. Cohen <
jco...@urgrad.rochester.edu> wrote:

> I cannot find release notes for new versions on GnuCash.  Can anyone point
> me to them?
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Re: [GNC] Lost Keyboard Accelerator feature

Michael,

Yeah I have the exact same issue, all good up until 4.14 / 5.0 on MacOS /
Win 10 / Win 11 / Ubuntu 23.04.  It's like the file location has been
changed behind the scenes. I seem to recall I mentioned it a while back but
nobody paid any attention, devs probably fixing issues etc.

Cheers David H.

On Fri, 5 May 2023 at 00:13, Michael Hendry 
wrote:

> On Tuesday (2nd May) I upgraded to version 5.1.1 on my iMac (Ventura
> 13.3.1), and have lost the use of Cmd-1, Cmd-2 and Cmd-3 as keyboard
> accelerators to change between Basic Ledger, Autosplit Ledger and
> Transaction Journal views.
>
> Cmd-j switches between accounts, as before.
>
> The accelerator-map file(date-stamped 2nd May) includes the following
> (uncommented) lines:
>
> (gtk_accel_path
> "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/JumpTransactionAction" "j")
>
> (gtk_accel_path
> "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleBasicAction" "1")
> (gtk_accel_path
> "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleAutoSplitAction"
> "2")
> (gtk_accel_path
> "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleJournalAction"
> "3")
>
> If I remember correctly, the first one (Cmd-j) was already set up by
> default in earlier versions of GNC, but I had to uncomment the last three
> to enable the Journal View accelerators.
>
> Anyone else affected by this?
>
> Michael
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Re: [GNC] Release Notes?

jonathan

here you go


Releases · Gnucash/gnucash 
(github.com)
[https://opengraph.githubassets.com/8a6f7d1b41e0eb9dde4ce45c9adb027c6431b8da27a5558d6f2d66d210fdf058/Gnucash/gnucash]
Releases · Gnucash/gnucash
GnuCash Double-Entry Accounting Program. Contribute to Gnucash/gnucash 
development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com





Saludos Cordiales


Murugan


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 on behalf of 
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Subject: [GNC] Release Notes?

I cannot find release notes for new versions on GnuCash.  Can anyone point
me to them?
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Re: [GNC] Turn of drop list when entering data in memo/description line

2023-05-04 Thread Carsten Hütter


Am 02.05.23 um 14:49 schrieb Adrien Monteleone:

If 4.14 is not available in your distro's repos, you can certainly use
the flatpak. You should probably remove 5.0 though first.


Sadly, code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak/maint/ does not list 4.14. The
latest one is 4.13-164 from 2023-03-18. Later build logs tell me:
"error: Writing content object: min-free-space-percent '3%' would be
exceeded, at least 143.4 kB requested". So the latest maint branch
versions are missing, including 4.14. But I'm fine with 4.13-164 as a
fallback.

As long as you enter the "--branch=" option with the "flatpak run"
command, many different gnucash flatpak versions can reside beside each
other on your system happily and can be separately started. This is what
I have done after the publishing of GnuCash 5.0.


[...]

On 4/29/23 5:14 AM, Trevor Dempsey via gnucash-user wrote:

Greetings,

I just upgraded to version 5.0 and I would like to know how to turn
OFF the drop list when entering a description in the memo line.

I can only enter 3 letters before it seizes up and I must cancel my
entry to continue. To enter new data into this memo line, I must
first write it in a text file and then copy/paste it onto the line.



In fact there is an option "Auto-raise lists" in the register
preferences. But at least in my current 5.0-159 build switching off does
not change the behavior of the description drop down list. Allowing to
switch it off could be an improvement in your case.

But I cannot completely follow the issue. In my case (flatpak GnuCash
5.0-159 on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS), the drop down list does not prevent me
from entering some more text. And as soon as the entered text is found
in less descriptions, the list shrinks, until it disappears completely
(i. e. when it's a complete new description).


[...]


Regards

Carsten
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[GNC] Release Notes?

2023-05-04 Thread Jonathan A. Cohen

I cannot find release notes for new versions on GnuCash.  Can anyone point
me to them?
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Re: [GNC] 5.1 - New Description Memory Option?

2023-05-04 Thread David Carlson

I happen to like it that you don't need to know the first character(s) if
something in the middle is the really unique part of what you want.

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 12:01 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> I think it is the same/similar code used for account selection. (and
> that feature *greatly* speeds up entry)
>
> The idea is that you don't *have* to know or recall how something is
> spelled *in order* and thus get all options so you can choose the right
> one.
>
> While that is intended, and can be helpful, there are certainly times
> where it slows you down. I haven't noticed on the Description line, but
> I know account lookup is limited to 20 results. This can pose a problem
> if the desired account is not shown in those 20 results as you can't
> scroll to it at all. This forces a more complicated 'lookup' entry or
> resorting to the old-school a:b:c shorthand to get what you want. I can
> only imagine that if the Description field has this same limitation,
> that can be another complication.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 5/4/23 11:17 AM, Jack Slater wrote:
> > I did that and it's now only 12! The oddity for me is that not only is
> the
> > list long but in my mind typing "jo" should start a list that begins with
> > jo, not al johnsons, happy joes and jimmie johns!
> >
> > On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 10:24 AM Gyle McCollam 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I know it involves an extra keystroke, but type "jo".  At least then you
> >> don't have to use the down arrow 20 or more times.
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Re: [GNC] Tags for classification/category/dimension transaction report

2023-05-04 Thread Vincent Dawans

For those interested in this feature, it's good to hear feedback and
interest.

For general feedback or support, I think the original "bug" (enhancement)
report is probably best so there is a track record of it.
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113772

For specific feedback about what is currently being implemented, there is
also the option to reply/comment on the various conversations in the Push
Request (jargon for the discussion where the code change is being
proposed). https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/pull/1623

It's an evolving conversation that requires consensus at some point, on
smaller and bigger issues, with respect for contradicting opinions and the
effort, needs and experience of core developers in terms of UI and coding
standards as well as maintenance and user support considerations. At a
minimum, this first simple (and limited) implementation will be offered in
one form or another, even if it takes the form of a custom report to start
(custom reports are user defined, so anybody can add one to their own
installation based on a provided template, but they are not part of the
official release or maintenance, hence not guaranteed to be maintained).
That's because until users can try it, I think it can be hard to provide
feedback.  Some guidance will be provided on how to install it as a custom
report if we go that route first, but this is still being discussed. It
will be important for users to understand the limitations of this first
implementation, so we will need to work on some wiki documentation as well.
Whether it leads to a fuller implementation of analytical accounting
features to gnucash will come down to user interest and participation in
doing the actual work (not all of it is coding, a lot of it is developing
and commenting on functional requirements, writing documentation, answering
user questions, etc).

Sincerely,

Vincent Dawans

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 9:59 AM NoobAlice  wrote:

> Seconded!  This would be a massive improvement to the excellent GnuCash,
> in my opinion.  Thank you so much, Vincent!  As described, this feature
> would add so much more utility in so many areas of reporting.
>
> Besides flywire's "classification/category/dimension," I would also add
> "jobs/projects" as keywords for anyone hunting down this thread later.
>
> > Message: 8 Date: Tue, 2 May 2023 19:26:46 +1000 From: flywire  > <
> flywi...@gmail.com> To: Vincent Dawans  Cc:
> Gnucash > Users  Subject: [GNC] Tags for >
> classification/category/dimension transaction report Message-ID: >
>  >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Re: >
> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-May/106749.html >
> Vince you are a champion! >
> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/pull/1623#issuecomment-1530788858 >>
> My personal view is this workaround is the most significant improvement
>  > since V2.
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Re: [GNC] Lost Keyboard Accelerator feature

2023-05-04 Thread Michael Hendry

On 4 May 2023, at 17:54, Adrien Monteleone  
wrote:

> 
> There were some changes made (I thought for 4.14) that alter how these are 
> handled on MacOS. Check the release notes for that and 5.x.
> 
> *note, those don't work for me either in 5.0. As well, they don't show up in 
> the View menu. I never used them to recall if they were visible at one time 
> or when they stopped working.

Thanks, Adrian.

I went straight from 4.1 to 5.1 (NOT 5.1.1, as I said earlier).

I’ve since found that "e” works - opening an Account for editing - 
even though that key combination is commented out in the accelerator map file.

I’ll have a look at the release notes.

Regards,

Michael

> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> On 5/4/23 9:12 AM, Michael Hendry wrote:
>> On Tuesday (2nd May) I upgraded to version 5.1.1 on my iMac (Ventura 
>> 13.3.1), and have lost the use of Cmd-1, Cmd-2 and Cmd-3 as keyboard 
>> accelerators to change between Basic Ledger, Autosplit Ledger and 
>> Transaction Journal views.
>> Cmd-j switches between accounts, as before.
>> The accelerator-map file(date-stamped 2nd May) includes the following 
>> (uncommented) lines:
>> (gtk_accel_path 
>> "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/JumpTransactionAction" "j")
>> (gtk_accel_path 
>> "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleBasicAction" "1")
>> (gtk_accel_path 
>> "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleAutoSplitAction" 
>> "2")
>> (gtk_accel_path 
>> "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleJournalAction" "3")
>> If I remember correctly, the first one (Cmd-j) was already set up by default 
>> in earlier versions of GNC, but I had to uncomment the last three to enable 
>> the Journal View accelerators.
>> Anyone else affected by this?
> 


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Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] GnuCash 5.1 Released

When you're trying to get a hard '1' or '0' out of a sine wave, that 
might indeed be the case! When I learned how the components work at that 
level, I was amazed we managed to get these confounded things to work at 
all.


Regards,
Adrien

On 5/4/23 11:27 AM, Tommy Trussell wrote:


Back when I worked as a computer tech (in the 1980s... ) :-/ I liked to
blame cosmic radiation for the random unexplained "flipped bit" sorts of
errors.


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Re: [GNC] 5.1 - New Description Memory Option?

I think it is the same/similar code used for account selection. (and 
that feature *greatly* speeds up entry)


The idea is that you don't *have* to know or recall how something is 
spelled *in order* and thus get all options so you can choose the right one.


While that is intended, and can be helpful, there are certainly times 
where it slows you down. I haven't noticed on the Description line, but 
I know account lookup is limited to 20 results. This can pose a problem 
if the desired account is not shown in those 20 results as you can't 
scroll to it at all. This forces a more complicated 'lookup' entry or 
resorting to the old-school a:b:c shorthand to get what you want. I can 
only imagine that if the Description field has this same limitation, 
that can be another complication.


Regards,
Adrien

On 5/4/23 11:17 AM, Jack Slater wrote:

I did that and it's now only 12! The oddity for me is that not only is the
list long but in my mind typing "jo" should start a list that begins with
jo, not al johnsons, happy joes and jimmie johns!

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 10:24 AM Gyle McCollam  wrote:


I know it involves an extra keystroke, but type "jo".  At least then you
don't have to use the down arrow 20 or more times.


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Re: [GNC] Tags for classification/category/dimension transaction report

2023-05-04 Thread NoobAlice

Seconded!  This would be a massive improvement to the excellent GnuCash, 
in my opinion.  Thank you so much, Vincent!  As described, this feature 
would add so much more utility in so many areas of reporting.


Besides flywire's "classification/category/dimension," I would also add 
"jobs/projects" as keywords for anyone hunting down this thread later.


Message: 8 Date: Tue, 2 May 2023 19:26:46 +1000 From: flywire  >  To: Vincent Dawans  Cc: 
Gnucash > Users  Subject: [GNC] Tags for > 
classification/category/dimension transaction report Message-ID: > 
 > 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Re: > 
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-May/106749.html > 
Vince you are a champion! > 
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/pull/1623#issuecomment-1530788858 >> 
My personal view is this workaround is the most significant improvement 
> since V2.

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Re: [GNC] Seperator character error message


Even if you change the separator preference first?

I just changed my separator to "}" and then created a new account with 
the name "Something:Else" and it worked with no error. (and a restart 
was not required)


Regards,
Adrien

On 5/4/23 8:45 AM, Murugan Muruganandam wrote:

This is surprising as Gnucash 5.1 on windows does not allow to input : in the 
account name


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Re: [GNC] Lost Keyboard Accelerator feature

There were some changes made (I thought for 4.14) that alter how these 
are handled on MacOS. Check the release notes for that and 5.x.


*note, those don't work for me either in 5.0. As well, they don't show 
up in the View menu. I never used them to recall if they were visible at 
one time or when they stopped working.


Regards,
Adrien

On 5/4/23 9:12 AM, Michael Hendry wrote:

On Tuesday (2nd May) I upgraded to version 5.1.1 on my iMac (Ventura 13.3.1), 
and have lost the use of Cmd-1, Cmd-2 and Cmd-3 as keyboard accelerators to 
change between Basic Ledger, Autosplit Ledger and Transaction Journal views.

Cmd-j switches between accounts, as before.

The accelerator-map file(date-stamped 2nd May) includes the following 
(uncommented) lines:

(gtk_accel_path "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/JumpTransactionAction" 
"j")

(gtk_accel_path "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleBasicAction" 
"1")
(gtk_accel_path "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleAutoSplitAction" 
"2")
(gtk_accel_path "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleJournalAction" 
"3")

If I remember correctly, the first one (Cmd-j) was already set up by default in 
earlier versions of GNC, but I had to uncomment the last three to enable the 
Journal View accelerators.

Anyone else affected by this?



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Re: [GNC] Any performance improvement in GnuCash 5.x?

Lipp,

It's okay this one time, but please always use 'reply-all' or
'reply-list' to keep messages on the list. If you're replying to a
digest, replace the subject line with the subject of the message you are
replying to. (a simple copy/paste from the digest contents near the top
of the message will suffice) Also, please only 'quote' the relevant
parts of any message, especially digests. Either trim after hitting the
reply button, or with most modern e-mail clients, you can first
highlight the portion you want to quote, then hit reply, and the message
will be automatically trimmed.

Others might be able to help more than I, and everyone gets to benefit
from following the discussion. (now, or in the future if they run into
the same issues)

As to your question on feature timing:

See the wiki, https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Roadmap, and
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Release_Schedule.

Note that some of those 6.0 goals were goals for 5.0 but are still
works-in-progress.

Concerning PieCash, I saw a comment recently that it is quite aged and
not maintained. Some 5.0 changes, I think, render it either not as
useful, or not usable at all.

With respect to performance, I'm still thinking there is something in
particular about your book that is at issue. Check the wiki about
getting a Tracefile and running from the command line to see if there
are any error messages. The devs likely want to know if you are getting
that level of slowdown. A bug report might be in order as well. See this
wiki section on various troubleshooting steps:

https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Troubleshooting_and_Improvements

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/1/23 6:07 PM, Lipp F. wrote:

Hi Adrien,

I apologize for writing to you directly, but I couldn't figure out a way to reply to your message through the gnucash mail list. It is in regard to https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-May/106758.html

I have indeed a high number of investment transactions. Between myself and my
spouse, 8 investment accounts, more than 15 years history, on average 100 open
positions daily. I actually stopped using GnuCash for tracking investments due
to performance considerations one year ago and I've migrated to a more suitable
platform.

I am wondering if you might know when SQL modernization could happen and, maybe
you can give some tips on how to clean up all investment transactions from the
database. I've tried using piecash, got some results but it was too time
consuming.

Best regards.

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Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] GnuCash 5.1 Released

2023-05-04 Thread Tommy Trussell

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 10:50 AM Geert Janssens 
wrote:

> Indeed. I have looked at the build failure, which is a bit odd. It
> complains about a directory already existing while installing the
> Portuguese documentation.
>
> I have checked all changes between the 5.0 release and the 5.1 release,
> but I don't see any change that could trigger this.
>

Back when I worked as a computer tech (in the 1980s... ) :-/ I liked to
blame cosmic radiation for the random unexplained "flipped bit" sorts of
errors.


> So instead I have restarted the build and it seems to pass now. Flathub is
> currently committing the successful builds. So in a few hours the new
> version should be available there.
>

Thank you! I see the build and hope to try it soon.

https://buildbot.flathub.org/#/builders/6/builds/39174


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Re: [GNC] 5.1 - New Description Memory Option?

2023-05-04 Thread Jack Slater

I did that and it's now only 12! The oddity for me is that not only is the
list long but in my mind typing "jo" should start a list that begins with
jo, not al johnsons, happy joes and jimmie johns!

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 10:24 AM Gyle McCollam  wrote:

> I know it involves an extra keystroke, but type "jo".  At least then you
> don't have to use the down arrow 20 or more times.
>
> Thank You,
>
> *Gyle McCollam*
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> gmccol...@live.comemail
> --
> *From:* gnucash-user 
> on behalf of Jack Slater 
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 4, 2023 10:57 AM
> *To:* gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
> *Subject:* [GNC] 5.1 - New Description Memory Option?
>
> In the new build, if I type a "j" I now get a pop-up list with the 1st
> option listed as "adj". I then have to down-arrow past 20ish entries to get
> to "john".
>
> In past builds, typing the same "j" would pop up the last "j" I had
> entered, which was in most cases "john", the same business name that I
> enter frequently.
>
> I'm hoping there is an option to turn OFF the new process! If so please
> tell me how. If not, we need it ASAP. The new process is wayy slower.
>
> Jack in Illinois
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Re: [GNC] 5.1 - New Description Memory Option?

2023-05-04 Thread Jack Slater

Great feedback. I'll head there now.

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 11:03 AM Vincent Dawans  wrote:

> Jack:
>
> This is being discussed in this bug report
> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798829
>
> I think it would be good to have more users express their views and needs
> about this feature in that report so the developers have a better sense of
> the various issues. In expressing your views, it's also good to offer what
> sort of tweak for alternative behavior you would want to see, so the
> developers can get a sense of what users want (instead of just complaints
> about what they don't want) and see how they can reconcile different needs.
>
> It has been discussed on the email list before as well but then ideas etc.
> get lost a bit. With the bug report it's all in one place. So I encourage
> all with comments about this feature to put them on the bug report.
> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798829
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Vincent Dawans
>
> On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 7:59 AM Jack Slater  wrote:
>
>> In the new build, if I type a "j" I now get a pop-up list with the 1st
>> option listed as "adj". I then have to down-arrow past 20ish entries to
>> get
>> to "john".
>>
>> In past builds, typing the same "j" would pop up the last "j" I had
>> entered, which was in most cases "john", the same business name that I
>> enter frequently.
>>
>> I'm hoping there is an option to turn OFF the new process! If so please
>> tell me how. If not, we need it ASAP. The new process is wayy slower.
>>
>> Jack in Illinois
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Re: [GNC] 5.1 - New Description Memory Option?

2023-05-04 Thread Vincent Dawans

Jack:

This is being discussed in this bug report
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798829

I think it would be good to have more users express their views and needs
about this feature in that report so the developers have a better sense of
the various issues. In expressing your views, it's also good to offer what
sort of tweak for alternative behavior you would want to see, so the
developers can get a sense of what users want (instead of just complaints
about what they don't want) and see how they can reconcile different needs.

It has been discussed on the email list before as well but then ideas etc.
get lost a bit. With the bug report it's all in one place. So I encourage
all with comments about this feature to put them on the bug report.
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798829

Sincerely,

Vincent Dawans

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 7:59 AM Jack Slater  wrote:

> In the new build, if I type a "j" I now get a pop-up list with the 1st
> option listed as "adj". I then have to down-arrow past 20ish entries to get
> to "john".
>
> In past builds, typing the same "j" would pop up the last "j" I had
> entered, which was in most cases "john", the same business name that I
> enter frequently.
>
> I'm hoping there is an option to turn OFF the new process! If so please
> tell me how. If not, we need it ASAP. The new process is wayy slower.
>
> Jack in Illinois
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Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] GnuCash 5.1 Released

2023-05-04 Thread Geert Janssens

Indeed. I have looked at the build failure, which is a bit odd. It complains 
about a 
directory already existing while installing the Portuguese documentation.

I have checked all changes between the 5.0 release and the 5.1 release, but I 
don't see 
any change that could trigger this.

So instead I have restarted the build and it seems to pass now. Flathub is 
currently 
committing the successful builds. So in a few hours the new version should be 
available 
there.

Regards,

Geert

Op donderdag 4 mei 2023 04:23:09 CEST schreef Tommy Trussell:
> On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 2:22 PM John Ralls  wrote:
> > The GnuCash development team announces GnuCash 5.1, the second release in
> > the stable 5.x series
> 
> GnuCash 5.1 doesn't seem to be available yet on flathub. Looks like the
> aarch64 build failed, but the x86_64 build succeeded.
> 
> https://github.com/flathub/org.gnucash.GnuCash/pull/71
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Re: [GNC] Error in Mutual Funds value

2023-05-04 Thread Kalpesh Patel

Hmmm, how are you downloading QFX format? Vanguard provides native CSV or
QIF formatted downloads only (different format than QFX) - all three types
needs to be imported but have to choose the correct drop down in the import
menu choices in the drop down. Of course you could be holding funds with a
third party financial marts, likes of Fidelity and Schwab, but in those
cases in most part importing QFX is known to work just fine. There is a
back-end way of getting QFX formatted transactions from Vanguard and that
also works fine when imported.

 

Something is definitely odd here if the file is downloaded from Vanguard
directly. Can you try to import QFX file in a new file with no accounts and
no securities/funds in it? It should prompt you to create funds account and
the holding accounts.

 



From: Joseph St. Denis 

Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 11:36 AM

To: Murugan Muruganandam ;
gnucash-user@gnucash.org 

Subject: Re: [GNC] Error in Mutual Funds value

 

All of the transactions were entered manually. I did try to get the
transactions with a CVS and an QFX files but no transactions were found. I
went through all of the Mutual Funds in the pop ups. There were no results.

 

I checked the entries several times to make sure that the price data were
correct and the fund shares quantities matched. I also entered the data in a
spread sheet which confirmed the statements.

 

All the best

 

Joseph St Denis

 

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[GNC] 5.1 - New Description Memory Option?

2023-05-04 Thread Jack Slater

In the new build, if I type a "j" I now get a pop-up list with the 1st
option listed as "adj". I then have to down-arrow past 20ish entries to get
to "john".

In past builds, typing the same "j" would pop up the last "j" I had
entered, which was in most cases "john", the same business name that I
enter frequently.

I'm hoping there is an option to turn OFF the new process! If so please
tell me how. If not, we need it ASAP. The new process is wayy slower.

Jack in Illinois
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[GNC] Lost Keyboard Accelerator feature

2023-05-04 Thread Michael Hendry

On Tuesday (2nd May) I upgraded to version 5.1.1 on my iMac (Ventura 13.3.1), 
and have lost the use of Cmd-1, Cmd-2 and Cmd-3 as keyboard accelerators to 
change between Basic Ledger, Autosplit Ledger and Transaction Journal views.

Cmd-j switches between accounts, as before.

The accelerator-map file(date-stamped 2nd May) includes the following 
(uncommented) lines:

(gtk_accel_path "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/JumpTransactionAction" 
"j")

(gtk_accel_path "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleBasicAction" 
"1")
(gtk_accel_path 
"/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleAutoSplitAction" "2")
(gtk_accel_path "/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/ViewStyleJournalAction" 
"3")

If I remember correctly, the first one (Cmd-j) was already set up by default in 
earlier versions of GNC, but I had to uncomment the last three to enable the 
Journal View accelerators.

Anyone else affected by this?

Michael
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Re: [GNC] Seperator character error message