Re: [GNC] Where is config-user.scm supposed to be under Linux

2023-07-03 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user

On 7/3/23 15:28, David H wrote:

Sure is, which is why I phrased my reply as more of a question :-)  Sorry I
should have suggested doing "Help >> About" - the popup shows a lot of
config file locations and might be a better guide

Cheers David H.


On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 at 21:26, Robert Heller  wrote:


At Mon, 3 Jul 2023 11:28:18 +1000 David H  wrote:



Hi Robert,

https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations doesn't help ?


Nope.  At least it doesn't help as far as I can tell.  It is a bit
confusing
though.  It talks about $HOME/.gnucash and $HOME/.local/share/gnucash and
I am
not totally sure which is correct for V4.14.  I have determined that
$HOME/.local/share/gnucash/ is used for stylesheets-2.0, since that file
in
that location gets updated after I fire up gnucash and exit.  It just
doesn't
appear the config-user.scm ever gets loaded.



Cheers David H.



Well, I am running Red Hat Enterprise Linux release 8.8 (Ootpa) and
GnuCash
Version: 4.2
Build ID: 4.2+(2020-09-26)
Finance::Quote: -

It seems config-user.scm is nowhere on my machine. Yet Gnucash seems to 
work just fine.


$ locate config-user.scm
$




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Re: [GNC] cannot open data file

2022-02-13 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user

On 2/13/22 12:00, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:

On 2/13/2022 10:12 AM, suk wah Bernstein wrote:

thanks for help.

You didn't bother to tell us your OS (makes a difference on how you find 
lost files)


This isn't really a gnucash question but more of a "I think I know the 
name and/or extension of a file but can't find it" (don't know the full 
name aka "file path")


True. In Linux, the locate command can find these things.

$ locate -i gnucash | grep JeanDavid

/home/jeandavid8/.gnucash/.gnucash/books/JeanDavid.2006.gnucash.gcm
/home/jeandavid8/.gnucash/.gnucash/books/JeanDavid.2006.gnucash.gcm.HIDE
/home/jeandavid8/.local/share/gnucash/.gnucash/books
/JeanDavid.2006.gnucash.gcm
/home/jeandavid8/.local/share/gnucash/.gnucash/books
/JeanDavid.2006.gnucash.gcm.HIDE
/home/jeandavid8/.local/share/gnucash/books/JeanDavid.2006.gnucash.gcm
/home/jeandavid8/GnuCash/JeanDavid.2006.gnucash
/home/jeandavid8/GnuCash/JeanDavid.2006.gnucash.20220114012744.log
/home/jeandavid8/GnuCash/JeanDavid.2006.gnucash.20220114090845.log
/home/jeandavid8/GnuCash/JeanDavid.2006.gnucash.20220114100724.log
[snip]
/home/jeandavid8/GnuCash/JeanDavid.2006.gnucash.20220212132057.log
/home/jeandavid8/GnuCash/JeanDavid.2006.gnucash.20220212220250.log
/home/jeandavid8/GnuCash/JeanDavid.2006.gnucash.20220212220441.gnucash
/home/jeandavid8/GnuCash/JeanDavid.2006.gnucash.20220212220442.log


The question about backups was again not really about gnucash. It's about ALL 
of the user data on your computer.
If you don't have a data backup process in place, it isn't a matter of 
if some of your data will get lost but when.



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Re: [GNC] online banking gnucash 4.9

2021-12-21 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user

On 12/21/21 11:10, Robert F. Crochelt wrote:

I am running Fedora 31.  I know this OS is getting old, but did not want
to upgrade for various reasons.  I upgraded to gnucash 4.9 using flatpak.  It
seems to run perfectly, but when I try to set up online banking, I click
on the button to "start aqbanking wizard" and nothing happens.  Output


I had so many problems with flatpak' being separate from the rest of 
Linux that I gave up on it. I no longer have anything from flatpak on my 
machine. When I had GnuCash from flatpak, I could not even get it to 
print on my printer. (I do not want a fix for that anymore.)


My advice is to get GnuCash from somewhere else.

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Re: [GNC] 4.9 on Ubuntu 20.04 not saving preferences -- O.T.

2021-12-20 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user

On 12/20/21 15:06, David Carlson wrote:

In my Gmail inbox, this was detached from the thread so I cannot figure out
what the good idea was.


Sorry I was too obscure. I was referring to part of Michael DeBusk's 
signature block where he was opposing html e-mail and proprietary 
attachments.


On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 1:10 PM Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:


On 12/20/21 13:18, Michael DeBusk wrote:

()  ascii ribbon campaign * against html e-mail
/\www.asciiribbon.org * against proprietary attachments
Home:http://nlphilia.com  * Blog:http://nlphilia.net


Good idea, especially in mailing lists.

And against routine top-posting.


I also marked my comment O.T. but perhaps that was not enough.

I also thought my signature block amusing in this context as it has a 
text-only image of Tux, the Linux penguin in it.


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Re: [GNC] 4.9 on Ubuntu 20.04 not saving preferences -- O.T.

2021-12-20 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user

On 12/20/21 13:18, Michael DeBusk wrote:

()  ascii ribbon campaign * against html e-mail
/\www.asciiribbon.org * against proprietary attachments
Home:http://nlphilia.com  * Blog:http://nlphilia.net


Good idea, especially in mailing lists.

And against routine top-posting.

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Re: [GNC] Flatpak/Flatseal Gnucash fails to launch

2021-11-27 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user

On 11/27/21 15:29, Elmar wrote:
I'm pretty sure that flatpak itself is the problem.  I just don't know 
how to diagnose it, or provide the right data so that it can be 
diagnosed by someone better than I.


I am not better than you. I solved my GnuCash flatpak problems by 
eliminating flatpak altogether. A friend of mine made me an .rpm file 
with GnuCash in it. I ended up with these


~/Downloads/DONE/gnucash]$ ls -l
total 73412
 25600 Nov 6 2020 boost169-chrono-1.69.0-4.el8.x86_64.rpm
 29480 Nov 6 2020 boost169-date-time-1.69.0-4.el8.x86_64.rpm
 51688 Nov 6 2020 boost169-filesystem-1.69.0-4.el8.x86_64.rpm
270168 Nov 6 2020 boost169-locale-1.69.0-4.el8.x86_64.rpm
155352 Nov 6 2020 boost169-program-options-1.69.0-4.el8.x86_64.rpm
283268 Nov 6 2020 boost169-regex-1.69.0-4.el8.x86_64.rpm
 11944 Nov 6 2020 boost169-system-1.69.0-4.el8.x86_64.rpm
 60736 Nov 6 2020 boost169-thread-1.69.0-4.el8.x86_64.rpm
110652 Nov 6 2020 gc-7.6.4-3.el8.x86_64.rpm
  70430720 Nov 5 2020 gnucash.tar
   3684500 Nov 6 2020 guile-2.0.14-7.el8.x86_64.rpm
 37408 Nov 6 2020 libatomic_ops-7.6.2-3.el8.x86_64.rpm

It calls itself

Version: 4.2
Build ID: 4.2+(2020-09-26)
Finance::Quote: -


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Re: [GNC] Using Gnucash to access file over flaky network

2021-11-25 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user




On 11/25/21 04:47, Geoff wrote:

Hi Chris

In my opinion this is really an SQLite question, not a GnuCash question.

To quote the SQLite dev team:-
"Rely upon it at your (and your customers') peril. See How To Corrupt 
Your Database Files.


Choose the technology that is right for you and your customers. If your 
data lives on a different machine from your application, then you should 
consider a client/server database. SQLite is designed for situations 
where the data and application coexist on the same machine. SQLite can 
still be made to work in many remote database situations, but a 
client/server solution will usually work better in that scenario."


https://www.sqlite.org/draft/useovernet.html


Good luck!

Regards

Geoff


I do not  know if Gnucash can run with postgreSQL, but if it can, 
perhaps that would be a better relational dbms to use?


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Re: [GNC] question from newbie

2021-11-07 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user

On 11/7/21 05:42, Michael Hendry wrote:

I’m assuming a “head check” is what we in the UK would call a post-dated cheque 
- a cheque which can’t be cashed until a stated date; for what it’s worth, I 
understand that banks in the UK will often make the payment if the cheque is 
presented early.


As far as I can tell, here in the USA, checks are seldom seen by human 
eyes. The MICR scanner reads the account number and a 
character-recognitian scanner tries to read the amount. Only if that 
faiul does a human being try to read the amount. Consequently, 
post-dating a check is usually ignored.


It also was a custom for a bank not to cash a check over 90 days old, 
but that is not always happens either.


With a post office as bad as here in USA, more and more checks do not 
make it to their destination. The worst recent case for me was a check 
mailed inside the post office to a post office box in the same post 
office that was returned months later from another post office, saying 
there was no such post office box.


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Re: [GNC] email seems so crude 30 years after MULTICS forums.

2021-10-07 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user
On 10/7/21 7:39 PM, Jack Frillman via gnucash-user wrote:
> Usenet is still active?
> I though it died years ago.

MY ISP is Verizon. Originally, it had Usenet servers to supply all
newsgroups. Then, at no decrease in cost, they supplied only the big-5
newsgroup categories. Later, they discontinued ll newsgroups, still with
no reduction in cost. So I signed up with an outfit that supplied
Usenet, but they disappeared a few months ago. I noticed that Usenet, or
at least the newsgroups I was signed up for, had less and less of
interest anyway, so I have not looked for another Usenet supplier.

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Re: [GNC] Capital gain with Return of Capital

2021-09-20 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user
On 9/20/21 11:10 AM, David Carlson wrote:
> I would suspect that most of us have never had a return of capital and we
> would not know how to record such a transaction in GnuCash.  I myself have
> recently purchased a fund that pays a dividend, but they say wait until the
> end of the year to get a report of how much was capital gains and how much
> was return of capital.  I have not yet learned how to enter a return of
> capital in GnuCash

Do you not just subtract the capital returned from the cost basis?

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Re: [GNC] Linux still at 4.5

2021-07-25 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user
On 7/25/21 5:46 AM, Stephen C. Camidge wrote:
> I am running Linux Manjaro and see that the aux distribution only gives 
> version 4.5 of Gnucash. There is a flatpack version of 4.6, but if I install 
> it, I do not have my saved reports and only the default preference.
> 
> Where are the preferences stored? I would like to make them match what I have 
> when using the aux version? 
> 
> I am a newbie on Linux so need clear instructions.
> 
> Thank you.

I have had so many problems with the idiosyncratic file-system usage of
flatpack, that I have chosen to not use it for anything.


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Re: [GNC] Printer not showing up in print dialogue box

2021-01-12 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user
   On 1/12/21 1:56 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

 Are you using the Flatpak by chance?
 There is a work around I believe to expose a printer to a Flatpak
 app. (a limitation of Flatpak, not specific to GnuCash as far as I
 am aware)
 There were some issues with direct printing on MacOS (and I think
 Windows) due to a problem with the Webkit version used by GnuCash,
 and the temporary solution was to default to printing to file. But I
 didn't think Linux suffered this issue. (or I could have my OSs
 mixed up)
 Also, I think I recently saw a change that put MacOS (if not all
 systems) back on Webkit2 which should have resolved this issue.

   I got GnuCash 4.something from Flatpak and it worked pretty well on my
   RHEL8.2 Linux system except it would  not  print. In my experience,
   Flatpack puts things in the wrong directories and gives them bizarre
   very-complex names. This violated many of the security constraints of
   the SELinux kernel that comes with RHEL releases since RHEL 6.

   My only  solution was  to remove all Flatkak stuff and get it
   elsewhere. That is not always easy, but  it the end, it is less
   trouble.
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Re: [GNC] Best way to upgrade from an old version (2.6.14) to current

2021-01-08 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user
On 1/8/21 6:03 PM, David Carlson wrote:
> Now Linux technology has started to move away from PPA protocols toward
> Flatpack or possibly other alternatives that I still feel need more
> development before I am ready to jump from GnuCash 3.8 to 4.4 or beyond.
> Reading the tales of woe here and on the developer mail list with flatpacks
> and particularly with building the program from source in various flavors
> of Linux has me sitting on the sidelines for now.

I do not know what PPA protocols even are, but when I first upgraded
from an old 2.something Gnucash to 4.2 I got it from Flatpack. It
installed easily, I converted the simple database I had and was lucky.
But it would not print anything. I suspect that this problem is that
Flatpack give all its files bizarre names and stores them in unexpected
places. Now the trouble with this for me is my Linux system uses an
SELinux kernel that is extremely security conscious, and Flatpack does
not follow the rules. Even the root user cannot easily violate the
rules. I did not follow this up, but Flatpack is so bizarre in where it
puts things, what it names them, that if it does not work exactly as you
want, you will probably never get it to work. (It was even worse with
the BOINC system that I run 24/7.)

A knowledgeable friend hand built an rpm for me from source, and gave me
a list of necessary other items. Once I got those other items, Gnucash
started working correctly and it prints as expected.

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Re: [GNC] Printing

2021-01-04 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user
   On 12/30/20 4:15 PM, David Cousens wrote:

Jean-David

I reached the same conclusion about flatpack programs and prefer to build
GnuCash and other software from scratch. This may be a better solution for
you. The wiki pages have faily detailed instructions on Building GnuCash on
Linux.
[1]https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building_On_Linux.

I don't know if anyone else has built it on RHEL8 and the SELinux kernel.  I
think Geert runs Fedora. The above instructions are Linux Mint/Ubuntu
oriented. The main problem is usually getting all the dependency headers and
libraries loaded. The build cmake script checks for the dependencies and
versions of them  it needs and issues error messages then stops when they
are not found. The procedure is then to load the dependencies in the
breakout page on them then run the script, fix any dependency problem
indicated and rerun the cmake script until it runs without any error
messages.   There are fairly detailed instructions for loading the
dependencies but they are based on the libraries which are normally included
by default in the Debian/Ubuntu/Linux Mint distributions.

I don't know enough about RHEL8 to know what possible problems to expect. If
you do decide to give it a try, we usually try to add a breakout to the wiki
detailing any differences to the existing instructions that are distribution
specific so feel free to add to the wiki if you run into differences for
RHEL8. Also come back to the forum if you run into difficulties and we can
try and sort them out.

David


   My version of GnuCash says this in the Help popup:

   Version: 4.2
   Build ID: 4.2+(2020-09-26)
   Finance::Quote: -

   I am running: Red Hat Enterprise Linux release 8.2 (Ootpa)

   that has 4.18.0-193.28.1.el8_2.x86_64 kernel.

   My friend compiled GnuCash from source for a RHEL8 system, made an rpm
   of it for me, and gave me a list of dependencies for me to find. I
   tried to install his rpm and got a list of missing dependencies. So I
   resolved those, and went a few iterations of that until it installed.
   In the process, I ended up with these;
   25600 Nov  6 08:14 boost169-chrono-1.69.0-4.el8.x86_64.rpm
   29480 Nov  6 08:15 boost169-date-time-1.69.0-4.el8.x86_64.rpm
   51688 Nov  6 08:15 boost169-filesystem-1.69.0-4.el8.x86_64.rpm
  270168 Nov  6 08:16 boost169-locale-1.69.0-4.el8.x86_64.rpm
  155352 Nov  6 08:16 boost169-program-options-1.69.0-4.el8.x86_64.rpm
  283268 Nov  6 08:17 boost169-regex-1.69.0-4.el8.x86_64.rpm
   11944 Nov  6 08:17 boost169-system-1.69.0-4.el8.x86_64.rpm
   60736 Nov  6 08:17 boost169-thread-1.69.0-4.el8.x86_64.rpm
  110652 Nov  6 19:57 gc-7.6.4-3.el8.x86_64.rpm
70430720 Nov  5 23:53 gnucash.tar
 3684500 Nov  6 19:47 guile-2.0.14-7.el8.x86_64.rpm
   37408 Nov  6 20:04 libatomic_ops-7.6.2-3.el8.x86_64.rpm
   I imagine the gc-7.6.4-3.el8.x86_64.rpm came from  the gnucash.tar
   file. I do not remember where I got the dependencies rpm files, but
   most likely from here.

   [2]https://download-ib01.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/8/Everything/x86_64
   /Packages/

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References

   1. https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building_On_Linux
   2. 
https://download-ib01.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/8/Everything/x86_64/Packages/
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Re: [GNC] Printing

2020-12-30 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user

On 12/30/20 9:43 AM, David Cousens wrote:

Jean-David,

This is likely a problem with the flatpack setup and not with GnuCash
itself. There are previous posts in the archive about fixing these problems
with flatpack. A search should bring them up but this link from an earlier
thread may have what you need

http://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/sandbox-permissions-reference.html

QA link on Nabble to the earlier thread is
http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GNC-no-printer-to-select-in-print-dialog-td4708467.html#a4708470

David Cousens


I agree that the printing problem, apparently with GnuCash in this 
instance, is NOT a GnuCash problem. But I had so many problems with 
flatpack programs, the crazy places they were located, the bizarre names 
that the went by, that I quit using them entirely.


Now part of my problems with flatpack is that I run RHEL8 and it uses 
SELinux kernel that is very fussy about who does and uses what. Even the 
root user can not violate the security of that kernel directly; i.e., it 
is fussier than merely following permissions on files, and flatpack 
seems to  pay no attention to that.


If it were only GnuCash printing, perhaps  I would follow the links you 
supplied, but my solution is just to not use flatpack at all.


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Re: [GNC] Printing

2020-12-30 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user

On 12/30/20 4:25 AM, Ove Grunnér wrote:

You can also export/print to pdf and then print the pdf document to your
printer.


I first got Gnucash on this machine (Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.2) from 
flatpack and it worked, but would not print. I have nothing but trouble 
with flatpack stuff. It runs by itself, but often do not cooperate with 
other programs. My solution was that a friend built an rpm for me from  
the source, and I installed it with RPM and everything works just fine.


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Re: [GNC] Bankrupt stock

2020-12-29 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user
   On 12/30/20 12:10 AM, Cam Ellison wrote:

 On 2020-12-29 14:18, smada46 wrote:

 I have a stock that went bankrupt, i.e. zero value.  I have tried
 repeatedly to remove the stock by selling the shares at $0.00 per
 share, but no matter what combination I use, it changes the cost or
 amount so it does not remove the shares.  For example, I put -2000
 shares in and $0.00 in cost and zero under the sell column.  After I
 hit enter, the shares show 1980 not zero.  How do I get rid of this
 stock?

 Why would you want to remove it? Use the Price database to set its
 value to zero. The Portfolio reports will not include it unless you
 specifically select it.
 Regardless of their value, you still own those shares - and will
 always own them. So you can't sell them - either in real life or in
 GnuCash.

   I had a stock that went bankrupt. My broker allowed me to sell it to
   him for a pittance (a few cents for the lot). So I do not own those
   shares anymore and no longer appear on my broker's web site or my
   monthly statements.
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.4 Announcement

2020-12-29 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user

On 12/28/20 10:18 PM, dull...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

Microsoft Edge (smart screen) blocks the gnucash-4.4.setup.exe file from
this site

https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases

Is that normal?


I run Gnucash on RHEL8.2, so I have no problem.

I do have a Windows 10 box and solved many Microsoft Edge problems by 
installing Firefox web browser. But I do not intend to run Gnucash on 
that box.


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Re: [GNC] List Replies

2020-11-16 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user

On 11/16/20 7:22 PM, Greg Feneis wrote:

If it's been the way it is for several years, it might be time to try a
change.  Perhaps people are more email savvy these days?


I very much doubt it. Most of my e-mail friends have dropped their 
land-lines and use, exclusively, their cell phones. They also send text 
messages or Facebook messages instead of e-mails.In fact, the younger 
ones do not even use Facebook anymore.


Makes me feel old.
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Re: [GNC] print

2020-11-12 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user

On 11/12/20 8:04 AM, flodaubas--- via gnucash-user wrote:

hello,

please could you tellme how can I print the screen of each count.( the green 
pages) thank you I need to make a  paper folder for each count.

Thank you

florence daubas
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Re: [GNC] Annoying Register Issue

2020-11-12 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user

On 11/12/20 3:01 PM, David Cousens wrote:

Les,

I have a non-flatpack version 4.2 running on Linux Mint 20 and it doesn't
exhibit the same behaviour. I can backspace, delete and or highlight and
delete in the Date, Description, Debit and Credit Columns without any
problem field without any problem. It would appear to be a Flathub problem,
rather than an inherent GnuCash problem.

David


I have had nothing but trouble with stuff I got from flatpack. I am 
running on


Red Hat Enterprise Linux release 8.2 (Ootpa)

using the following version a friend of mine built from source.

Version: 4.2
Build ID: 4.2+(2020-09-26)
Finance::Quote: -

The problem I had with the flatpack version was that it could not print  
anything.


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Re: [GNC] Upgrading GnuCash

2020-10-13 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user



On 10/13/20 3:28 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
Per the FAQ in the Wiki, only upgrading from one major to the next 
major release is supported. Skipping major releases is *not* supported.


Thus for you, 2.6.21 > 3.11 > 4.2 would be okay.

However, 2.6.21 > 4.2 *might* result in issues which *may* include 
data loss or corruption. (no guarantees either way) You might get 
lucky, you might not. You might not, and not realize it for some time 
depending on the nature of the corruption/loss.


Properly upgrading *should* result in custom reports and other 
settings being migrated properly. There were some migration issues 
with the early 3.x series, but that was solved at some point. (not 
sure of the cutoff release, see release notes starting with 3.0 till 
about 3.3 or so if curious.)


*Also per the FAQ and the Wiki, after opening your data file for the 
first time with each new major version, you should run Action > Check 
& Repair > Check & Repair All to make sure your book is adjusted to 
reflect any changes to how GnuCash internally records data. *This also 
can prevent previous versions from reading the file after this point. 
(this will vary by book, according to what features you were using in 
the prior edition) The release notes for 3.0 and 4.0 should detail 
these changes.


Regards,
Adrien


I did run Chreck All, and it had no complaints. It took a while, 
though.

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Re: [GNC] Upgrading GnuCash

2020-10-13 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user



On 10/13/20 8:35 AM, Fred Bone wrote:

Currently running 2.6.21 (without issues) and think I should probably
upgrade to 4.whatever.
I know I need to bridge via 3.something, but can I safely assume that
3.11 will do the necessary data tweaking, or should I start with an
earlier 3.x? And is opening and closing my files sufficient, or do I
need to take any other actions before further upgrading to 4?
I've looked on the website and the wiki for answers but failed to find them.
TIA ... F
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash and Swedish accounting legislation

2020-08-09 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user
On 8/9/20 5:25 AM, bengt...@gmail.com wrote:
> Would like to revive this old thread since the request made by the OP is
> still valid for us Swedish users (and maybe German users according to one
> post in the thread?). I wonder if there has been some development along
> making transactions "persistent" or read-only/locked/un-changeable? 

I am not an expert at the inner workings of GnuCash, but it seems to me
that there is nothing the author of Gnucash, or any other program, can
do to make files write-only-once. Not because the code of Gnucash could
not be written that way, but because there is little GnuCash can do to
prevent other programs from modifying GnuCash files. In other words, if
a user has permission to write a file, (s)he also has permission to
update (re-write) a file. And if the user (or super-user) is at the
console, he can probably violate controls  by SELinux as well.

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Re: [GNC] Price of gold

2020-04-08 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user
On 4/8/20 12:30 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

> To be clear, the spot price is per ozt, but it is based on a
> transaction involving 1000 ozt of Silver or 1kg of Gold. If you are
> buying or selling more or less, your exact price will be different,
> but you can use the spot as a guide.

Here in USA, a standard contract for gold is 100 troy ounces and for
silver, it is 5000 troy ounces.

The spot price may be useful if you are trading gold or silver
contracts, but if you buy a contract because you want to take delivery
of the gold, you are in for a rude shock. For example, there are an
estimated 300 contracts out there for each 100 ounces of gold, so if all
holders wanted to take delivery, 299 would have to do without.

If you actually want to take delivery, you may have to pay a big
premium. These days, some items are either not available at all
(Canadian one-ounce silver Maple Leafs), or command a large premium
($177 premium over spot) to get a one-ounce US Gold Eagle.

So it depends on how you intend to use the prices just what prices you
should use.

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Re: [GNC] Backup Module

2020-03-24 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user
On 3/24/20 9:32 AM, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:
> On 3/24/2020 7:58 AM, lbo...@rogers.com wrote:
>> Would it be possible to incorporate a backup module function into the
>> menu bar, as a pull-down feature under the heading "File", as is
>> commonly found in some programs?   Backing up to the hardrive is
>> currently automatic but saving to a disc or memory stick, for off site
>> storage could be made simpler for the less technically inclined user.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Leo
> 
> Would not be hard to do BUT would foster bad practice with regard to
> backup procedures. Do you really want to back up all the data on your
> computer file by file? The point is, it is not just your gnucash data
> that needs backup but ALL your user data. And if there is a process
> whereby all your user data is backed up, a special process to back up
> gnucash data is redundant.

If you are going to put all kinds of things into GnuCash, why not a web
browser, an e-mail program, etc.? Pretty soon it will end up like emacs,
where you pretty much can do anything within the one program, but it may
drive you nuts trying to figure out how.

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Re: [GNC] FW: Multiple copies of gnucash-user messages from the list

2020-01-21 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user
On 1/21/20 11:03 AM, Alan wrote:
> Hey, is anyone making any progress with this? Getting hundreds of dupe 
> messages
> from this list, filling up my inbox.

I do not experience this problem.

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Re: [GNC] Outstanding Check Problem

2019-10-03 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user
On 10/3/19 1:29 PM, Matthew Lybanon wrote:
> This is more of an accounting question than a GnuCash question; what I would 
> like to know is how to handle this within GnuCash. I???m sure that this 
> situation isn???t unique, and there is probably a standard way of handling it 
> in accounting.
> 
> I am maintaining the checkbook for a club account. Several months ago I wrote 
> a check to a member. He deposited the check, and the institution where he 
> deposited  the check collected the money. But because of some mistake within 
> the banking system (not my mistake, not his mistake), the money came from 
> somewhere other than the account from which the check was issued???the one I 
> am using GnuCash to keep records for. (If it was charged to another account 
> at the issuing bank, the account holder hasn???t noticed the discrepancy.)
> 
> That means that my records differ from the bank???s records by the amount of 
> the check; everything else has cleared. Unless by some miracle the banking 
> system straightens this out, my records will differ from the bank???s records 
> forever. Is there a clean way to handle this, other than simply deleting that 
> check from my (GnuCash) records and pretending it never existed?

I am surprised you are experiencing this problem. I thought I was the
only one. I write a check to an educational organization. They send me a
receipt indicating that they received the check. Quarterly they send me
a benefit publication. But it never clears my bank.

I live in the USA and the organization is in London, England. I thought
this might be a problem with the SWIFT organization. It has happened
several more times with them. I wrote them a letter about it once, but
since they have received the money, they do not care.

This has happened with a USA educational organization once or twice as well.

I now contribute with my credit card, and have had no problems with it.

Moral: do not trust the banking system.


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Re: [GNC] Yahoo blocking GnuCash Email

2019-09-24 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user
On 9/24/19 8:57 AM, Stan Brown wrote:
> And of course Usenet newsgroups are a way around all of these
> difficulties. They also provide MUCH better thread tracking than any
> email client I've seen. I don't know why Usenet was allowed to either on
> the vine.
> 
Several reasons:

My ISP was, and sort-of still is, my ISP. Originally, they provided
Usenet access. Then, "for better service" they cut out all but the "big
five" news groups, but they did not lower their rates. Later, they cut
out Usenet altogether. Still, they did not lower the rates. So I had to
get Usenet at extra cost from an independent source.

On the newsgroups on which I participated, more and more trolls and
spammers showed up with no knowledge of good manners and politeness.
They did not even know enough to refrain from top posting. Most of them
had no Usenet client, no e-mail client. They did everything using a web
browser. And it showed.

So its use has pretty much ended. Most of what I used to do on Usenet I
now do in e-mail mailing lists.

And the younger people I know do not even use e-mail at all; they use
Facebook messages. And I am told by the younger friends that even that
is old hat and they use something else on their 'cell 'phones.

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Re: [GNC] Stock quotes

2019-05-26 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user
On 5/26/19 4:34 PM, Steve wrote:
> That was it. I still had one set up as Alphavantage. "Unknown error"
> is not the most helpful error message.
> 

I wrote a big program once, and at one point in the program, I had it
print out the error message, "WAHOO!"

It actually came out once and the user called me on the telephone to
complain about the unhelpful message. But think about the code that
generated the message and answer this: what error message would you have
printed. Assembler code

TZE  C (transfer if zero)) to location C
TPL  A (transfer if positive) to location A
TMI  B (transfer if negative) to location B

PRINT "WAHOO!"

It must have been a machine error. There was no logical way to get to
that PRINT statement.

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Re: [GNC] Account remains red after void that would put it in black

2019-05-01 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user
On 5/1/19 9:34 PM, D via gnucash-user wrote:
> I never knew that zero was negative number!

In IBM computers of the 704, 709, 7090, 7094 line, the numbers were in
sign-magnitude form, different from the two's complement form in common
use today. So there were both Positive zero ane Negative zero on the
machine, and there were different test instructions depending on what
you wanted to do

TZE Transfer (jump, branch) on zero
TNZ Transfer on no zero
TPL Transfer on plus
TMI Transfer on minus
CAS compares two numbers and takes the next instruction if smaller, the
instruction after that if equal, and the one after that if larger.
Positive zero was considered greater than negative zero for this
instruction.

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Re: [GNC] US Bans Free tax Software

2019-04-11 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user
On 4/11/19 8:45 AM, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:
> Not how I read that article. It simply said that the IRS could not
> develop/distribute free tax software. It said nothing about whether
> anybody else could do so if they wished. That the government is
> forbidden to do something is very different from saying that an NGO, a
> non-profit, or for that matter a for profit company cannot do so.
> 
> There are LOTS of things forbidden to the government, some forbidden by
> the Constitution let alone by statute, that are allowed to persons or
> other entities with "personhood".

 U.S. Constitution - Amendment 10
Amendment 10 - Powers of the States and People

<>

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively,
or to the people.

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Re: [GNC] Keeping two sets of books

2019-03-31 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user
On 3/30/19 3:40 PM, taf wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I've just started using Gnucash.  In the past I've used a basic
> bookkeeping package, but it's no longer available. I'm trying to keep
> two sets of books... one for personal accounting and one for a
> corporation.  I'm running Version 3.4 Build ID: 3.4+ (2018-12-30) on
> Windows 7; I've set up the books, saving the books into two different
> MySql data bases with separate users and passwords.  So far so good. I
> can switch between sets of books by selecting
> 
> File->Open...->
> 
> and then in the Open dialog, selecting MySql data format and specifying
> database, userid, and password.  This seems to be a bit klunky... am I
> missing something fundamental?
> 
> Ideally I'd like to have two desktop shortcuts, one to use each set of
> books, specifying at least format, database and user within the shortcut.
> 
> So... any help?

I have a similar issue. I happen to run Linux, but I imagine the same
would work on a machine running Windows.

1.) Establish one login account for your personal use. E.g., the one you
have now.

2.) Establish a second account for the corporation's books.

3.) I assume this is now all done for your personal book.

4.) Setup a new Gnucash account for the corporation. Perhaps you can
skip that and just move the corporation data from from where it is to
the right directories on the corporation's account.

In Linux, they will be in your directory in GnuCash and .gnucash. I do
not know where they would be in Windows.

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Re: [GNC] whois lookup - gnucash.net

2019-03-30 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user
On 3/30/19 2:42 PM, Gnucash User wrote:
> Yes, the question is what are the thoughts of the gnucash
> developers/contributors on the use of "gnucash" as a second-level domain
> name?   I see, for instance, that besides the aforementioned
> gnucash.net, someone has also registered gnucash.com.  This pertains to
> how new users could learn where to obtain software and information, but
> perhaps there might be a more appropriate forum? Thanks!

Interesting: in Russia?

$ dig gnucash.net

; <<>> DiG 9.8.2rc1-RedHat-9.8.2-0.68.rc1.el6_10.1 <<>> gnucash.net
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 9492
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 18

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;gnucash.net.   IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
gnucash.net.86400   IN  A   45.63.19.35

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
gnucash.net.172799  IN  NS  ns2.reg.ru.
gnucash.net.172799  IN  NS  ns1.reg.ru.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.reg.ru. 86400   IN  A   194.58.117.11
ns1.reg.ru. 86400   IN  A   194.58.117.13
ns1.reg.ru. 86400   IN  A   194.58.117.15
ns1.reg.ru. 86400   IN  A   194.58.117.17
ns1.reg.ru. 86400   IN  A   176.99.13.11
ns1.reg.ru. 86400   IN  A   176.99.13.13
ns1.reg.ru. 86400   IN  A   176.99.13.15
ns1.reg.ru. 86400   IN  A   176.99.13.17
ns1.reg.ru. 86400   IN  2a00:f940:4::47
ns2.reg.ru. 86400   IN  A   176.99.13.18
ns2.reg.ru. 86400   IN  A   194.58.117.12
ns2.reg.ru. 86400   IN  A   194.58.117.14
ns2.reg.ru. 86400   IN  A   194.58.117.16
ns2.reg.ru. 86400   IN  A   194.58.117.18
ns2.reg.ru. 86400   IN  A   176.99.13.12
ns2.reg.ru. 86400   IN  A   176.99.13.14
ns2.reg.ru. 86400   IN  A   176.99.13.16
ns2.reg.ru. 86400   IN  2a00:f940:5::190

;; Query time: 677 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Sat Mar 30 16:04:20 2019
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 399


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Re: [GNC] Using a mysql database?

2019-03-13 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user
On 3/13/19 1:15 PM, Stephen M. Butler wrote:
> Also remember that data is only as reliable as that which is entered. 
> The third law of thermodynamics states it only gets worse over time.

A database rule I encountered and seems to be true is a corrolary to GI-GO:

A databbase's data are only good if the people entering the data are
those that are going to use it. If you have rooms full of bored clerks
typing it in on terminals, who have no idea what it means, and could not
care less, the data will be bad to begin with. And, as you said, its
entropy will only increase.

I remember a database of telephone directory entries that someone had
run a program on to improve it.

One entry was TOYS R US that got corrected to TOYS R UNITED STATES


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Re: [GNC] MySQL

2019-03-07 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user
On 3/7/19 7:22 AM, David G Hamblen wrote:
> In the past, I've had problems with a mysql file, just getting
> seqfaults.  Turned out that I was entering a transaction with a 1962
> date.  I forget the details, but mysql stored it as a zero, which I
> couldn't reopen.  I changed the date (to post-1970?)  with the mysql
> command line tool.  Perhaps more recent versions of GC handle this better.
> 

In the old days, and perhaps to this day, UNIX and Linux systems had no
dates prior to 1970/01/01. Maybe mysql still has this limitation. In the
early days of UNIX, it ran on 16-bit machines and they kept time to the
second in a double-precision format.

Now, with 64-bit machines being de rigueur, time is kept more
accurately, and will not run out in 2038. ;-)

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Re: [GNC] Bootstrapping and Company Ownership.

2019-01-15 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 1/15/19 5:44 PM, jason wrote:
> I will issue a common stock, but I am not eligible to own a legal entity
> until 21 years old. It's a dillema, it does sound I loan capital to the
> business as of right now. Is it okay to issue a common stock with par value
> of $100. Although, I don't have a legal entity?
> 

In the mid-1959s in New York State, a friend of mine and I wanted to
start a company and we were both under 18 years of age; we were still
high-school students. We did not want to issue stock, but there were
other problems:

1.) Banks would not allow us to have a checking account until at least
one of us was over 18.

2.) We had to file a declaration in City Hall called a Certificate for
Doing Business Under An Assumed Name, in which we had to state that we
were (legal) infants. An attorney was required to do this, and a fee
paid to the county clerk to file it.

3.) To set up a legal corporation, and issue stock (not listed on a
stock exchange), we needed a board of directors all of whom were adults
(i.e., over 21 years of age). A corporation like that was authorized to
issue up to 200 shares of stock, although the board of directors, if
authorized by a majority of stockholders, could authorize the issuance
of more shares. We never did set up the corporation.

I do not know if any of that applied in other jurisdictions, and I do
not  know if the laws are still the same as 50 years ago: I pretty-much
doubt it.


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Re: [GNC] Help with Reports Please!

2018-08-11 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 08/11/2018 02:22 PM, Diane Forrest wrote:
> Hello out there:  1) Am a former user of Quicken, finally "moved"  to try a
> new system.  2)  I have spent a huge amount of time getting acclimated to
> double-entry, importing QIF data, etc.  I finally feel like I get the
> system, even like the system, after ignoring my community for more than a
> week of vacation. 2) Am using what purports to be the recent, updated
> version:   *Version: 3.2  Build ID: 3.2+ (2018-06-24)  *
> 
> 3) MY ISSUE:   Imagine my (gulp) extreme disappointment to find that *after
> all that effort* ... cleaning up & entering about 7 months of Income,
> Expense, Liability, Asset Data... but for the life of me, I can't seem to
> get anything even close to a Quicken style cashflow report.

Does Reports->Income & Expense->Cashflow not do what you want?

Set the account(s), beginning and end date desired.

> What I used to
> do was print *monthly, numerical, income/expense reports*.  All those
> transactions nicely summed under all my expense subaccounts I could
> really tell what was going on.  I do not use (or even like) piecharts,
> scatterplots, or tables of little color bars.  I do not want Grand Account
> Totals (Jan to June), I want a table by month, for each Account, with it's
> sub-account "children" below it.

I get a report like this:

Cash Flow Operating - 2017-08-01 to 2018-07-31

Selected Accounts
Money into selected accounts comes from 
Gifts Received:ANONYMOUS$987.65
Gifts Received:PRIVATE:Beyer, Jean-David$1,234.56
[snip]
Other Income$1,357.00
Money In$25,046.67
Money out of selected accounts goes to  
Advancement $76.54
Assistance  $123.45
Bank Charge $97.65
[snip]
Utilities:Verizon   $543.21
Money Out   $25,699.83
Difference  -$653.16

> 
> 4) I really have studied various GNUcash documentation,  manuals, looked at
> a few videos,  searched on line.  I think I'm smart enough, been patient
> enough, I'm really working hard... but to what end?  What on earth is the
> deal?  What am I missing here?  Is it the version I'm using, and if so, can
> someone tell me what to do, please.  Thx in advance,   DF

More difficult, but more flexible, might be a Transaction Report and a
lot of fiddling with the Sort option.


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Re: variable scheduled date

2018-02-26 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 02/26/2018 08:29 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
> Adrien Monteleone <adrien.montele...@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> True, the version in EPEL7 is 2.6.18, one version back, soon to be two
>> versions back.
>>
>> I too was wondering the issue, now I see that essentially, nothing
>> ever gets back-ported for RHEL, so newer RPMs can’t pull in
>> dependencies because they don’t exist in the older repositories. They
>> can provide 10 years of support, because it’s essentially frozen.
>>
>> Your experience and explanation makes me glad I never tried RHEL.
> RHEL is a great server platform.
> It SUCKS as a desktop platform.

> I would question why Jean-David chose it for a desktop, because it's
> really not designed for that.  It is designed for long-term stability,
> which is exactly counter to being able to frequently upgrade to new
> software.

I mainly chose RHEL for my desktop when it was running servers as well
as the usual desktop applications. I had been running the regular Red
Hat Unix versions up to 7.3. I tried Red Hat 9 and it did not run IBM
DB2 very well, that I needed for database work. I started tunning RHEL3
on one machine and upgraded another machine to CentOS 4.

One reason I keep running RHEL is just because I cannot stand having to
update Fedora systems so often. The minor updates are usually OK, but
when a new release comes out, it takes way too much time to install and
configure it. It inly takes a couple of hours to install the software,
but it usually takes me about a month to get it all configured
correctly. And when the releases are now SELinux, getting that right ...
. Well if you have done it, you know what I mean. And if you have not,
good luck to you.
> 
> Besides, who keeps (desktop) computers for 10 years?  I refresh my
> laptop every 3.
> 
I keep them that long. I kept my first machine 14 years, but after four
years, I added a second computer and networked them together, and after
another four years, I built yet another and kept it until the power
supply exploded (at about years old). Until that happened, it was
working just fine but by then the power supply was so obsolete that I
could not find any with the right power and the right connections.

I donated the oldest one to someone who used it for some parts (very
good dial-up modem when I no longer needed modems). The next one I
junked (dual 550 MHz Pentium III processors, 512 Megabytes RAM). I
thought about upping the RAM, but decided against that because those
processors were just too slow.I only kept it around because I had a
Windows XP license for it to do my taxes on it.

My current machine is 64-bits, has a 4-core Xeon processor, 8 GBytes
RAM. The mother board will take two Xeon processors, 512 GBytes RAM. At
one time, I might have needed that, but right now I sure do not.

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Re: variable scheduled date

2018-02-24 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 02/23/2018 06:40 PM, David Carlson wrote:
> I am lost in this thread.  I thought that the point of Linux was to use
> RPMs to do the dirty work of installing the software.  In fedora that would
> be "yum install gnucash".  Are you saying that does not work?
> 
> David C
> 

Yes, it would not work because the server that would respond to yum is
the one Red Hat maintains to support (in my case) RHEL6. Were I running
RHEL7, it would get things from that. But in either case, Red Hat do not
support Gnucash (and do not support VLC), so I would need to download
the rpms from elsewhere. And it is not that easy because the rpm's will
not install unless all the dependencies are already there. And to get
them is almost impossible for most things.

When I downloaded VLC, for example, I needed a few libraries. I found
and downloaded some of those. They wanted more. Some of them needed
other libraries and they did not exist. So I had to get rid of some and
get other versions of those, and so on. It took over a week to get VLC
to work. And I was trying to install VLC because some other video player
(and mp3 player) stopped working.

The only way I got GnuCash to work is that it is not quite as
complicated as VLC, and the EPEL project has Gnucash in it. They do not
upgrade it though. They have a version that works, and that is that. The
EPEL for Gnucash in RHEL7 will not install in RHEL6, and I am not
prepared to upgrade my RHEL6 system just to get the latest Gnucash.
(Even were I to do that, there is no reason to believe that that version
of Gnucash would be the latest, though I suspect it would be more up to
date than what I now have.)



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Re: variable scheduled date

2018-02-23 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 02/23/2018 01:51 PM, Dave H wrote:
> Hi Jean-David,
> 
> Yes version 2.4.15 was released just over 4 years / 20 versions ago so
> I'm not surprised you're missing out on a lot of the good stuff :-)
> 
> I'm sure there must be ways of updating to a later version even on
> RedHat just like I have already done on Ubuntu.
> 
> I see epel list an srpm for gnucash 2.6.18-1 under both
> http://download3.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/7/SRPMS/Packages/g/
> and http://download3.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/7Server/SRPMS/Packages/g/ so
> I'm surprised you can't upgrade to at least that version ?

I cannot just upgrade a single package. To do that, I would have to go
through hell to get all the required libraries. I have done that in the
past: NEVER AGAIN! It took me several weeks to make some package work
that way. I think it was VLC. For that, I had to install 26 other
packages, and finding just the exact version of each took over a week.

I would have to upgrade my system from RHEL6 to RHEL7, and doing that
takes about a month of aggravation to get everything configured
correctly again. That is why I skip every other upgrade. Red Hat support
their releases for 10 years.

Also, I do not want to bother compiling from source.

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Re: variable scheduled date

2018-02-23 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 02/23/2018 12:02 PM, Fross, Michael wrote:
> I am running the latest stable version (2.6.19), but I see the following
> per the screenshot.  There are a lot of options.  This is on Ubuntu, but
> I see the same options on Windows.
> 
Those additions you see must have occurred since my version of GnuCash.
Unfortunately, I will be unable to upgrade until EPEL do it, and that is
unlikely. So until I upgrade my Linux distribution to RHEL8 (not yet
released), I must stay here.

I am running GnuCash 2.4.15 that I do not suppose is the latest and
greatest (2.6.19), but gnucash-2.4.15-4.el6.x86_64.rpm is what is
available on EPEL for my distribution of Linux (RHEL6).


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Re: variable scheduled date

2018-02-23 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 02/23/2018 10:48 AM, Fross, Michael wrote:
> Hello Jean-David,
> 
> I believe this can be done in the scheduled transaction editor.  Select
> frequency to monthly, every 1 month.  Then choose "on the 2nd Wed"
> 
> Michael

I have choices like that only for 1st to 31st of month, last day of
month, and Last Monday of month, Last Tuesday ...

I am running GnuCash 2.4.15 that I do not suppose is the latest and
greatest (2.6.19), but gnucash-2.4.15-4.el6.x86_64.rpm is what is
available on EPEL for my distribution of Linux (RHEL6).

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Re: variable scheduled date

2018-02-23 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 02/22/2018 11:35 PM, AZardoz wrote:
> First time on the forum.  My search didn't turn up this particular problem. 
> 
> Is it possible to have a variable scheduled date?  
> I have some deposits that are made 2 business days before the end of the
> month, e.g. 28th or 29th. 
> I know how to adjust for weekends & I can live with February being the odd
> duck, though a formula would take care of that too. 
> The scheduler does not seem to have an option for this. 
> Any help would be much appreciated. 
> 

My social security payment is in reality, deposited on the second
Wednesday of each month. I have never figured out _a good way_ to get
GnuCash to do this.


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Re: 2018?

2017-12-30 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 12/30/2017 03:54 PM, Kelly Sandwell wrote:
> What do I need to do to use your gnucash in 2018?  I have used it this year
> (2017) and I am very impressed.  I don't know much about accounting but my
> tax preparer was very happy with the reports I showed him a month ago.
> 

Just keep going.
When it comes to producing reports, just remember to set the end dates
to the year you want.


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Re: Gnucash.org is down -- 7:55 PST 11/23/2017

2017-11-24 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 11/23/2017 10:58 PM, Ken Pyzik wrote:
> Sorry -- Gnucash.org is down -- 7:55 PST 11/23/2017
> 

http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/gnucash.org

Down For Everyone Or Just Me
Is gnucash.org down?

It's just you. gnucash.org is up.


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Re: Two different sets of accounts

2017-11-20 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 11/20/2017 09:47 AM, Mike or Penny Novack wrote:
> Guncash, opening in its default mode, will always open the last file you
> had opened.
> a) You can "tell" gnucash not to do this, but instead open "nofile" and
> then you have to choose which file you want to open (there is even a
> drop down list for the last several you had open). That is what those of
> us who are using gnucash to keep several sets of books usually choose to
> do << there is no reason for us to expect that the books we want are the
> same as last open >>
> b) Even when gnucash has opened the "wrong" set of books (you have two)
> you can at that point tell it to open the other. See that "file" button
> on the top left? That will let you open another, either from the list OR
> by explicitly entering the name.

I have an additional solution, practical since I am the administrator of
this computer.

I have my own private accounts, and if I am logged into my machine as
me, if I run GnuCash, I get those.

I also am treasurer for a small non-profit outfit, and I gave that
outfit its own login. If I log in as that and run GnuCash, I get those.
Both are under /home, but otherwise separate.

I can also login as myself, do an su - nonprofitlogin
and then run Gnucash to access those other accounts. That way, I can
have both open at the same time, though I usually do not need to do that.

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Re: Accounting for Cryptocurrency Mining Operations

2017-10-26 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 10/26/2017 12:21 AM, Rodney Elliott wrote:
> Hi All.
> 
> 
> If I were to purchase a cryptocurrency (say Bitcoin) with a fiat
> currency recognised by gnucash (say USD), then the procedure to
> record the transaction is clear - create an asset account of the type
> 'stock', associate it with a new security that uses the coin ticker
> (BTC) and the maximum number of significant figures supported by
> gnucash, etc.
> 
> 
> 
> What to do in the case of mining a cryptocurrency is less clear. The
> BTC asset account would need to be credited with the amount of coins
> mined, but then what? How do you balance this transaction, given that
> no fiat currency was involved? The cryptocurrency was effectively
> created out of thin air. I feel like the answer is an equity account
> of some description, but I do not think that it would be appropriate
> to have an equity account of the type 'stock'. Is there a tractable
> solution to this problem?
> 

If you found gold on your property and worked as a gold miner, and took
the gold as payment for your labors, how would you account for that?
Maybe it is just income paid in that alternate currency; gold in the
case of gold mining, BTC in the case of bitcoin. ???


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Re: Help needed: 2.6.17 not building on 32-bit systems

2017-09-03 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 09/02/2017 09:50 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Sep 2017, Rich Shepard wrote:
> 
>> I believe resolving version incompatibilities will fix the problem.
>> Perhaps that upgraded libicul18n libraries broke gnucash led me down this
>> long path. That'll be the next tests if needed.
> 
>   I've cleaned out the rest of the cruft from long ago. There are now no
> duplicate files in /usr/ and /usr/local/.
> 
>   With the older dependency versions, 2.6.17 now cannot find
> "libgnc-gnome".
> My web search for the package that provides that finds no hits. What should
> provide that file?
> 

Do you have them and the build procedure cannot find them?
Or are they not there at all?

I have never built gnucash, though I run it all the time.
On my Red Hat Enterprise Linux system, running with a 4-core 64-bit Xeon
processor, they are here:

/usr/lib64/gnucash/libgnc-gnome.so
/usr/lib64/gnucash/libgnc-gnome.so.0
/usr/lib64/gnucash/libgnc-gnome.so.0.0.0

On a 32-bit machine, they would be in /usr/lib instead of /usr/lib64.
Thus (Trillian was my old 32-bit machine):

/D2P1/Trillian/usr/lib/gnucash/libgnc-gnome.so
/D2P1/Trillian/usr/lib/gnucash/libgnc-gnome.so.0
/D2P1/Trillian/usr/lib/gnucash/libgnc-gnome.so.0.0.0

Since Red Hat do not support GnuCash, I must have gotten that library
somewhere else. I see it came with

$ rpm -qf /usr/lib64/gnucash/libgnc-gnome.so
gnucash-2.4.15-4.el6.x86_64


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Re: Version Migration

2017-08-31 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 08/31/2017 03:46 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
> I have a desktop Linux machine (CentOS 6, x86_64) and a laptop Linux machine 
> (also 6, x86_64).  Generally I run GnuCash (2.4.15-4.el6) on my desktop Linux 
> machine.  I do have a procedure (shell script) to rsync the GnuCash data & 
> prefs onto my laptop on occasion, I run GnuCash (also 2.4.15-4.el6) there and 
> then rsync the GnuCash data & prefs back to my desktop Linux machine.
> 
> I don't know if this counts towards what you are asking.

I run gnucash-2.4.15-4.el6.x86_64 on my
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 6.9 (Santiago)
4-core 64-bit machine.

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Re: advice on software

2017-08-12 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 08/11/2017 07:31 PM, Chris Tsuji wrote:
>Hi
>Hopefully, I did this correct.
>I am a treasurer of a not profit orgnization and need to decide on
>using quickbooks or gnucash.
>The currently use quickbooks but has be be redone.
>What is your advice?
>thanks in advance.
>Chris tsuji

It depends on your tax jurisdiction and the exact legal status of your
non profit organization.

I am treasurer or a Quaker Meeting in New Jersey, USA. We are considered
a non-profit organization by both the Internal Revenue Service and the
State of New Jersey. We are also considered to be a religious
organization. We have no employees. A consequence is that we need file
no income tax returns.

We do keep books of income and expense because I must write
acknowledgement letters to donors so they can claim income tax
deductions. We also need to keep good records because some organizations
contribute money to us and they need to know aspects of our finances.

I do use GnuCash for this.

Long ago, I used Quicken and TurboTax for my accounts, but TurboTax did
not communicate well with Quicken one year, and I got rid of Windows for
almost all my computing work, so I switched to GnuCash for my personal
accounting. When I was made treasurer, I naturally used it for that too.
(Separate files; in fact a separate user account on my machine.)

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Re: Preferred Date Format When Importing CSV Files

2017-07-29 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 07/28/2017 09:32 PM, Paul W. wrote:
> I set the date format to m-d-y in Edit>Preferences>Date/time
>  
> When I import CSV files, the date format on the Preview Settings page shows 
> y-m-d.  I manually change the format to m-d-y.
> What do I need to do to have GC automatically show the format I selected.
> 
Different strokes...

Years ago I had to figure out how to make dates all y-m-d because
sorting by date is easier for me that way.


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Re: Login help

2017-07-09 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 07/09/2017 09:50 AM, pfwoolver...@juno.com wrote:
> Dave,  Thanks for the info.  I viewed that page several times in recent weeks 
> and never noticed the login point. Jean-David,  Sorry for not being clear 
> about what I wanted. -- Original Message --

You are still not clear at all.

Do you have GnuCash installed on your computer or do you not? I do not
know how you could expect to run a program without installing it first.
And once it is installed all you have to do is run it. You do not login
to it.

What operating system are you running on your machine? I know only
Linux, though I know a version is available for Window (if I am not
mistaken), but even there you need to install it and run it. You do not
log into a program.


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Re: Login help

2017-07-08 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 07/08/2017 02:00 PM, pfwoolver...@juno.com wrote:
> 
> How do I log in to my GC account?
> 

I cannot imagine anyone asking this question.

Normally, you log into your computer and run GnuCash program.
You do not log into a program, you just run it.

In GnuCash you can select which file to use, but it normally comes up
with the last one you used, and most home users have only one unless
they run a second one for a business, for example.

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