Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices?
It is a discount, but the issue is: 1. It's multiple invoices to the same client 2. I want to create a new, final invoice that summarizes the expenses that will be reimbursed and the actual services being paid for. Two different amounts on a single invoice, with a single total(but separating expenses and sales). Just doing a discount wouldn't do this, and would be harder. There were like 10 invoices that client had. So, I have paid those ten invoices from "renegotiated accounts" and created a new invoice with expenses+sales agreed on. The only issue is, there is not a "bad debts" third account in this situation. Not sure how to implement something like that? I had "losses from renegotiated accounts" but that didn't seem to work. On Tue, 2021-03-09 at 13:51 -0600, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > On 3/9/21 12:21 PM, Daffy Duck wrote: > > Ok, I think I have it working now. > > > > So, the better way to look at the discounted situation in my case > > was > > "renegotiated accounts" because I want to pay expenses prior to > > income. > > Not sure I'm following here. Let's take this one step at a time. > > First, I thought you had two separate cases: 1) a bad debt, 2) a > discount you wanted to offer after issuing an invoice. Is this not > correct? (the AFDA account is for case #1, the Credit Note is for > case #2) > > Second, What do your own expenses, and when you pay them, have to do > with giving a discount to a customer after you've invoiced them? > > > So, I created a new asset account called "renegotiated accounts" > > and > > paid the outstanding invoices for this individual from that. > > > > I then created a new invoice for the new amount, separating > > reimbursed > > expenses from income. On the new invoice, the transfer account is > > "renegotiated accounts." > > This is starting to sound more complicated than the initial post. > That's > fine, but please be clear about what you are trying to accomplish. > > What do reimbursed expenses have to do with the discount situation? > > - > > My personal rule of thumb is to *always* try to create transactions > that > describe the real-world events, in the same order they occurred. That > keeps me out of trouble trying to finagle something weird just to > make > the math work. The math will work if I enter what really happened. > > Regards, > Adrien > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices?
On 3/9/21 12:21 PM, Daffy Duck wrote: Ok, I think I have it working now. So, the better way to look at the discounted situation in my case was "renegotiated accounts" because I want to pay expenses prior to income. Not sure I'm following here. Let's take this one step at a time. First, I thought you had two separate cases: 1) a bad debt, 2) a discount you wanted to offer after issuing an invoice. Is this not correct? (the AFDA account is for case #1, the Credit Note is for case #2) Second, What do your own expenses, and when you pay them, have to do with giving a discount to a customer after you've invoiced them? So, I created a new asset account called "renegotiated accounts" and paid the outstanding invoices for this individual from that. I then created a new invoice for the new amount, separating reimbursed expenses from income. On the new invoice, the transfer account is "renegotiated accounts." This is starting to sound more complicated than the initial post. That's fine, but please be clear about what you are trying to accomplish. What do reimbursed expenses have to do with the discount situation? - My personal rule of thumb is to *always* try to create transactions that describe the real-world events, in the same order they occurred. That keeps me out of trouble trying to finagle something weird just to make the math work. The math will work if I enter what really happened. Regards, Adrien ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices?
Ok, I think I have it working now. So, the better way to look at the discounted situation in my case was "renegotiated accounts" because I want to pay expenses prior to income. So, I created a new asset account called "renegotiated accounts" and paid the outstanding invoices for this individual from that. I then created a new invoice for the new amount, separating reimbursed expenses from income. On the new invoice, the transfer account is "renegotiated accounts." I had a separate account under expense for "Loss from renegotiated accounts" to mimic what we did with the bad debts one, but that doesn't seem to work? I then posted a payment to the new invoice that I received. Is this the best way to do this? On Mon, 2021-03-08 at 22:14 -0600, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > Apologies. AFDA will have to go somewhere else under Assets then. It > should show up after moving it. > > Regards, > Adrien > > On 3/8/21 9:05 PM, Daffy Duck wrote: > > Ok, maybe that is the issue. > > > > AFDA is not listed under transfer accounts. Both AR and AFDA are > > not > > listed. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices?
Apologies. AFDA will have to go somewhere else under Assets then. It should show up after moving it. Regards, Adrien On 3/8/21 9:05 PM, Daffy Duck wrote: Ok, maybe that is the issue. AFDA is not listed under transfer accounts. Both AR and AFDA are not listed. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices?
Ok, maybe that is the issue. AFDA is not listed under transfer accounts. Both AR and AFDA are not listed. ? On Mon, 2021-03-08 at 20:55 -0600, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > Sorry if I wasn't clear. > > At first, there should be no transactions in that account. > > Go to Business > Customer > Process Payment. > > Enter the customer in the search field at the top. > > You'll see the invoice that you need to close out, select it. > > Put in the appropriate date, and the amount you are charging off to > Bad > Debts. (eventually) > > Select the Allowance for Doubtful Accounts (AFDA) account as the > Transfer Account. > > Put a memo if you like. > > Then save the 'payment'. > > After that is done, the invoice will be closed out as 'paid' by AFDA. > > This then needs to be expensed, so in AFDA enter a transaction for > the > same amount as the 'payment' but this time between AFDA and > Expenses:Bad > Debts. > > Not sure if you are using formal labels or not, but the result of the > payment will be: > > Dr. Allowance for Doubtful Accounts (left column) > Cr. Accounts Receivable (right column) > > The charge off will be: > > Dr. Expenses:Bad Debts (left column) > Cr. Allowance for Doubtful Accounts (right column) > > AFDA will now be zero. > > Normally, this account is populated at the beginning of an accounting > period with a reasonable estimate of what you won't collect. It is > then > converted to charged off expense at the end of that period, or > monthly, > whichever you need or works for you. > > Of course, you can make specific adjustments like this one as needed. > > > Regards, > Adrien > > On 3/8/21 8:25 PM, Daffy Duck wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Thanks. > > > > "For Bad Debts, set up an account called "Allowance for Doubtful > > > Accounts" as a child of AR. (be sure to make this of type > > > 'Asset') > > > > > > You can then 'pay' the invoice using this account as the source. > > > > > > This will cause the invoice to be closed by GnuCash and it will > > > be > > > removed from the Due Invoices Reminder." > > > > This does not work. I created an asset account under "Accounts > > receivable" and I put the entry in for the $500, an increase. > > > > I then tried to assign it as a payment to the invoice. It said > > "you > > must select a transfer account from the account tree." > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices?
Sorry if I wasn't clear. At first, there should be no transactions in that account. Go to Business > Customer > Process Payment. Enter the customer in the search field at the top. You'll see the invoice that you need to close out, select it. Put in the appropriate date, and the amount you are charging off to Bad Debts. (eventually) Select the Allowance for Doubtful Accounts (AFDA) account as the Transfer Account. Put a memo if you like. Then save the 'payment'. After that is done, the invoice will be closed out as 'paid' by AFDA. This then needs to be expensed, so in AFDA enter a transaction for the same amount as the 'payment' but this time between AFDA and Expenses:Bad Debts. Not sure if you are using formal labels or not, but the result of the payment will be: Dr. Allowance for Doubtful Accounts (left column) Cr. Accounts Receivable (right column) The charge off will be: Dr. Expenses:Bad Debts (left column) Cr. Allowance for Doubtful Accounts (right column) AFDA will now be zero. Normally, this account is populated at the beginning of an accounting period with a reasonable estimate of what you won't collect. It is then converted to charged off expense at the end of that period, or monthly, whichever you need or works for you. Of course, you can make specific adjustments like this one as needed. Regards, Adrien On 3/8/21 8:25 PM, Daffy Duck wrote: Hi, Thanks. "For Bad Debts, set up an account called "Allowance for Doubtful Accounts" as a child of AR. (be sure to make this of type 'Asset') You can then 'pay' the invoice using this account as the source. This will cause the invoice to be closed by GnuCash and it will be removed from the Due Invoices Reminder." This does not work. I created an asset account under "Accounts receivable" and I put the entry in for the $500, an increase. I then tried to assign it as a payment to the invoice. It said "you must select a transfer account from the account tree." ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices?
Hi, Thanks. "For Bad Debts, set up an account called "Allowance for Doubtful > Accounts" as a child of AR. (be sure to make this of type 'Asset') > > You can then 'pay' the invoice using this account as the source. > > This will cause the invoice to be closed by GnuCash and it will be > removed from the Due Invoices Reminder." This does not work. I created an asset account under "Accounts receivable" and I put the entry in for the $500, an increase. I then tried to assign it as a payment to the invoice. It said "you must select a transfer account from the account tree." On Mon, 2021-03-08 at 09:50 -0600, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > *note* none of the below is accounting or tax advice, but how to use > GnuCash to accomplish the goal of 'clearing' the invoices while > following general accounting practices. > > Here's how to handle both using the Business Features so GnuCash > sorts > everything properly and can 'see' what you are doing. > > - > For Bad Debts, set up an account called "Allowance for Doubtful > Accounts" as a child of AR. (be sure to make this of type 'Asset') > > You can then 'pay' the invoice using this account as the source. > > This will cause the invoice to be closed by GnuCash and it will be > removed from the Due Invoices Reminder. > > Then make a manual entry zeroing out this amount between Allowance > for > Doubtful Accounts and Expenses:Bad Debts account. > > - > For the reduced invoice, you can either edit the original after > un-posting and adding in the eventually issued discount and re- > posting. > (which of course, alters the original amount, but you see the > discount > so you can figure out what it was if needed) > > *or* > > You can issue a credit note for the discount and link it with the > invoice when recording as a payment. (thus offsetting the original > balance) That way, both the credit note and the original will > disappear > from the Invoices Due Reminder as they are now both 'closed' > entirely. > Personally, I like this method as it preserves everything as > originally > done, rather than making edits. > > Regards, > Adrien > > On 3/6/21 10:35 PM, Daffy Duck wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have some clients that, for whatever reason, I didn't finish work > > for > > because something happened, so we ended the transaction without the > > full payment. > > > > They continue popping up on invoice reminder, etc. > > > > I have another client who I have agreed to settle for a lesser > > price > > than that which was billed. > > > > In these cases, how do "close" the invoice but still have the > > ability > > to see the details if you ever have to? What is the recommended > > way to > > do this? > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices?
The issue is, this solution does not have a relationship to the invoice. As such, the invoice still pops up in invoices due reminder. On Sun, 2021-03-07 at 21:06 -0800, Keith Fetterman wrote: > I recall the original question was how to make the open invoices > disappear from the “Due Invoices Reminder” dialog. Based on the > explanation below, do the open invoices still appear in the dialog? > If so, how does one make them disappear? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Message: 7 > > Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2021 16:53:56 -0600 (CST) > > From: David Cousens > > To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > Subject: Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices? > > Message-ID: <1615157636594-0.p...@n4.nabble.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > There is no need to zero out the invoice. It remains as it > > originally was and > > the debt remains on the books. What the debt write off does is > > correct your > > income for the amount of income you expected to but didn't receive > > and > > adjusts the accounts receivable to reflect that you do not expect > > to receive > > that income. > > > > If you cancel out the invoice and at some future time the client > > coughs up > > the money, you will have no way of accounting for how that money > > was > > received but a simple adjustment allows you to reverse the bad debt > > write > > off and then record the payment against the original invoice. > > > > When you make a payment against an invoice normally, you do not > > change the > > amount of the invoice, itself but you increase the amount of an > > asset(bank > > account) and decrease the amount of the Accounts receivable (also > > an asset ) > > by the same amount. > > > > The invoice creates an increase in an income account and an > > increase in the > > Accounts receivable when it is posted to you accounts. In the case > > of a bad > > debt you do not adjust the income but an expense account which has > > the same > > effect on your profit. Expense accounts can be regarded as contra > > income > > accounts. > > > > This way your accounts contain a record of the events as they > > affected your > > finances at the time the events occurred. If they are annotated > > well enough > > anyone can reconstruct the sequence of events as recorded > > > > David Cousens > > > > > > > > - > > David Cousens > > -- > > Sent from: > > http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html > > > > > > -- > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > ___ > > > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > > > -- > > > > End of gnucash-user Digest, Vol 216, Issue 17 > > * > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices?
Fair comment Adrien. On Tue, 9 Mar. 2021, 2:55 am Adrien Monteleone, < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > You should refrain from making manual entries or edits in AR/AP. It > isn't that you can't or that anything will blow up, but you may forget > that the Business Features will not see those edits/transactions where > you might expect them to. > > If you really need to make manual edits/entries, create an 'Other AR/AP' > account, as a child of the main account, and make sure it is of type > 'Asset/Liability' and *not* of type 'AR/AP'. (there can be only 1 of > each of those) > > With the method listed below, the Business Features (and their reports) > 'think' the customer paid when they did not. > > See my other reply describing how to close these out properly in GnuCash. > > Regards, > Adrien > > On 3/8/21 2:33 AM, Alan Hopkins wrote: > > Hi all > > I'm new to GNU Cash but I just tested a method that worked and I > think > > is valid. > > I went to the client's invoice and paid the full amount ($120) which > > then was entered by GNUCash into the Accounts Receivable. > > I then went into the Accounts Receivable account, located the > payment, > > looked at the Splits (DR $120 Assets:CashOnHand, CR $120 A/R) and > > changed the splits to be Debit CashOnHand $60 Debit Bad Debts $60 > > Credit Accounts Receivable $120. > > The invoice is recorded as paid and no longer appears in reminders > and > > all the accounts are in the correct state. > > Maybe that may be of help! > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices?
Adrien, On Mon, March 8, 2021 10:54 am, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > You should refrain from making manual entries or edits in AR/AP. It > isn't that you can't or that anything will blow up, but you may forget > that the Business Features will not see those edits/transactions where > you might expect them to. > > If you really need to make manual edits/entries, create an 'Other AR/AP' > account, as a child of the main account, and make sure it is of type > 'Asset/Liability' and *not* of type 'AR/AP'. (there can be only 1 of > each of those) > > With the method listed below, the Business Features (and their reports) > 'think' the customer paid when they did not. I would suggest that the method Alan used below is EXACTLY the RIGHT thing to do, and indeed it's exactly how I would (and have) handled bad debts in the past. Manual adjustment of payment transactions is explicitly allowed, so long as you don't change the split tied to the AR/AP account. But changing the transfer account from Cash to Expenses:Bad Debt, or even splitting the Cash split like Alan did, is perfectly acceptable. > See my other reply describing how to close these out properly in GnuCash. -derek > Regards, > Adrien > > On 3/8/21 2:33 AM, Alan Hopkins wrote: >> Hi all >> I'm new to GNU Cash but I just tested a method that worked and I >> think >> is valid. >> I went to the client's invoice and paid the full amount ($120) which >> then was entered by GNUCash into the Accounts Receivable. >> I then went into the Accounts Receivable account, located the >> payment, >> looked at the Splits (DR $120 Assets:CashOnHand, CR $120 A/R) and >> changed the splits to be Debit CashOnHand $60 Debit Bad Debts $60 >> Credit Accounts Receivable $120. >> The invoice is recorded as paid and no longer appears in reminders >> and >> all the accounts are in the correct state. >> Maybe that may be of help! > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices?
You should refrain from making manual entries or edits in AR/AP. It isn't that you can't or that anything will blow up, but you may forget that the Business Features will not see those edits/transactions where you might expect them to. If you really need to make manual edits/entries, create an 'Other AR/AP' account, as a child of the main account, and make sure it is of type 'Asset/Liability' and *not* of type 'AR/AP'. (there can be only 1 of each of those) With the method listed below, the Business Features (and their reports) 'think' the customer paid when they did not. See my other reply describing how to close these out properly in GnuCash. Regards, Adrien On 3/8/21 2:33 AM, Alan Hopkins wrote: Hi all I'm new to GNU Cash but I just tested a method that worked and I think is valid. I went to the client's invoice and paid the full amount ($120) which then was entered by GNUCash into the Accounts Receivable. I then went into the Accounts Receivable account, located the payment, looked at the Splits (DR $120 Assets:CashOnHand, CR $120 A/R) and changed the splits to be Debit CashOnHand $60 Debit Bad Debts $60 Credit Accounts Receivable $120. The invoice is recorded as paid and no longer appears in reminders and all the accounts are in the correct state. Maybe that may be of help! ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices?
*note* none of the below is accounting or tax advice, but how to use GnuCash to accomplish the goal of 'clearing' the invoices while following general accounting practices. Here's how to handle both using the Business Features so GnuCash sorts everything properly and can 'see' what you are doing. - For Bad Debts, set up an account called "Allowance for Doubtful Accounts" as a child of AR. (be sure to make this of type 'Asset') You can then 'pay' the invoice using this account as the source. This will cause the invoice to be closed by GnuCash and it will be removed from the Due Invoices Reminder. Then make a manual entry zeroing out this amount between Allowance for Doubtful Accounts and Expenses:Bad Debts account. - For the reduced invoice, you can either edit the original after un-posting and adding in the eventually issued discount and re-posting. (which of course, alters the original amount, but you see the discount so you can figure out what it was if needed) *or* You can issue a credit note for the discount and link it with the invoice when recording as a payment. (thus offsetting the original balance) That way, both the credit note and the original will disappear from the Invoices Due Reminder as they are now both 'closed' entirely. Personally, I like this method as it preserves everything as originally done, rather than making edits. Regards, Adrien On 3/6/21 10:35 PM, Daffy Duck wrote: Hello, I have some clients that, for whatever reason, I didn't finish work for because something happened, so we ended the transaction without the full payment. They continue popping up on invoice reminder, etc. I have another client who I have agreed to settle for a lesser price than that which was billed. In these cases, how do "close" the invoice but still have the ability to see the details if you ever have to? What is the recommended way to do this? ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices?
Hi David, nice to see the documented method of writing off bad debts. However it seems hackish. It would be good to formalise the methods via a menu item or toolbar button. Similarly, processing refunds is currently done afaiu via credit notes. Numerically it's fine, but does it pass the tax audit test? On Mon, 8 Mar 2021, 11:15 am David Cousens, wrote: > My description of the process has been from an accounting perspective. > > According to the Help Manual GnuCash cannot process the write off as a > payment in the simple manner of a manual transaction entry as I described > it > because the accounts in the payment logic are restricted and the use of > lots > for processing partial payments complicates the issue. > > Section 7.6.3 of the Help manual > (https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-help/busnss-ar-payment1.html) > gives a process for writing off a bad debt to a Bad Debt expense account > which will achieve the desired result within GnuCash which AFAIK is still > valid. > > David > > > > - > David Cousens > -- > Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices?
Hi all I'm new to GNU Cash but I just tested a method that worked and I think is valid. I went to the client's invoice and paid the full amount ($120) which then was entered by GNUCash into the Accounts Receivable. I then went into the Accounts Receivable account, located the payment, looked at the Splits (DR $120 Assets:CashOnHand, CR $120 A/R) and changed the splits to be Debit CashOnHand $60 Debit Bad Debts $60 Credit Accounts Receivable $120. The invoice is recorded as paid and no longer appears in reminders and all the accounts are in the correct state. Maybe that may be of help! Cheers Alan On 8/3/21 4:06 pm, Keith Fetterman wrote: I recall the original question was how to make the open invoices disappear from the “Due Invoices Reminder” dialog. Based on the explanation below, do the open invoices still appear in the dialog? If so, how does one make them disappear? -- Message: 7 Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2021 16:53:56 -0600 (CST) From: David Cousens [1] To: [2]gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices? Message-ID: [3]<1615157636594-0.p...@n4.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii There is no need to zero out the invoice. It remains as it originally was and the debt remains on the books. What the debt write off does is correct your income for the amount of income you expected to but didn't receive and adjusts the accounts receivable to reflect that you do not expect to receive that income. If you cancel out the invoice and at some future time the client coughs up the money, you will have no way of accounting for how that money was received but a simple adjustment allows you to reverse the bad debt write off and then record the payment against the original invoice. When you make a payment against an invoice normally, you do not change the amount of the invoice, itself but you increase the amount of an asset(bank account) and decrease the amount of the Accounts receivable (also an asset ) by the same amount. The invoice creates an increase in an income account and an increase in the Accounts receivable when it is posted to you accounts. In the case of a bad debt you do not adjust the income but an expense account which has the same effect on your profit. Expense accounts can be regarded as contra income accounts. This way your accounts contain a record of the events as they affected your finances at the time the events occurred. If they are annotated well enough anyone can reconstruct the sequence of events as recorded David Cousens - David Cousens -- Sent from: [4]http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html -- Subject: Digest Footer ___ gnucash-user mailing list [5]gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: [6]https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see [7]https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Ma iling_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -- End of gnucash-user Digest, Vol 216, Issue 17 * ___ gnucash-user mailing list [8]gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: [9]https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see [10]https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/M ailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. References 1. mailto:davidcous...@bigpond.com 2. mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org 3. mailto:1615157636594-0.p...@n4.nabble.com 4. http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html 5. mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org 6. https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user 7. https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists 8. mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org 9. https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user 10. https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices?
I recall the original question was how to make the open invoices disappear from the “Due Invoices Reminder” dialog. Based on the explanation below, do the open invoices still appear in the dialog? If so, how does one make them disappear? > > > -- > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2021 16:53:56 -0600 (CST) > From: David Cousens > To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > Subject: Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices? > Message-ID: <1615157636594-0.p...@n4.nabble.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > There is no need to zero out the invoice. It remains as it originally was and > the debt remains on the books. What the debt write off does is correct your > income for the amount of income you expected to but didn't receive and > adjusts the accounts receivable to reflect that you do not expect to receive > that income. > > If you cancel out the invoice and at some future time the client coughs up > the money, you will have no way of accounting for how that money was > received but a simple adjustment allows you to reverse the bad debt write > off and then record the payment against the original invoice. > > When you make a payment against an invoice normally, you do not change the > amount of the invoice, itself but you increase the amount of an asset(bank > account) and decrease the amount of the Accounts receivable (also an asset ) > by the same amount. > > The invoice creates an increase in an income account and an increase in the > Accounts receivable when it is posted to you accounts. In the case of a bad > debt you do not adjust the income but an expense account which has the same > effect on your profit. Expense accounts can be regarded as contra income > accounts. > > This way your accounts contain a record of the events as they affected your > finances at the time the events occurred. If they are annotated well enough > anyone can reconstruct the sequence of events as recorded > > David Cousens > > > > - > David Cousens > -- > Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html > > > -- > > Subject: Digest Footer > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > -- > > End of gnucash-user Digest, Vol 216, Issue 17 > * ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices?
My description of the process has been from an accounting perspective. According to the Help Manual GnuCash cannot process the write off as a payment in the simple manner of a manual transaction entry as I described it because the accounts in the payment logic are restricted and the use of lots for processing partial payments complicates the issue. Section 7.6.3 of the Help manual (https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-help/busnss-ar-payment1.html) gives a process for writing off a bad debt to a Bad Debt expense account which will achieve the desired result within GnuCash which AFAIK is still valid. David - David Cousens -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices?
David, So if I add an entry in bad debt for $500 from expense, transfer from assets:accounts receiveable can I "assign" it to the specific invoice, or no? On Sun, 2021-03-07 at 19:16 -0600, Daffy Duck wrote: > David, > > Thank you. I realized what was happening from an accounting > perspective, but I was wondering if I can do anything that addresses > the reference in due invoices reminder? > > On Sun, 2021-03-07 at 16:53 -0600, David Cousens wrote: > > There is no need to zero out the invoice. It remains as it > > originally was and > > the debt remains on the books. What the debt write off does is > > correct your > > income for the amount of income you expected to but didn't receive > > and > > adjusts the accounts receivable to reflect that you do not expect > > to receive > > that income. > > > > If you cancel out the invoice and at some future time the client > > coughs up > > the money, you will have no way of accounting for how that money > > was > > received but a simple adjustment allows you to reverse the bad debt > > write > > off and then record the payment against the original invoice. > > > > When you make a payment against an invoice normally, you do not > > change the > > amount of the invoice, itself but you increase the amount of an > > asset(bank > > account) and decrease the amount of the Accounts receivable (also > > an asset ) > > by the same amount. > > > > The invoice creates an increase in an income account and an > > increase in the > > Accounts receivable when it is posted to you accounts. In the case > > of a bad > > debt you do not adjust the income but an expense account which has > > the same > > effect on your profit. Expense accounts can be regarded as contra > > income > > accounts. > > > > This way your accounts contain a record of the events as they > > affected your > > finances at the time the events occurred. If they are annotated > > well enough > > anyone can reconstruct the sequence of events as recorded > > > > David Cousens > > > > > > > > - > > David Cousens > > -- > > Sent from: > > http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices?
David, Thank you. I realized what was happening from an accounting perspective, but I was wondering if I can do anything that addresses the reference in due invoices reminder? On Sun, 2021-03-07 at 16:53 -0600, David Cousens wrote: > There is no need to zero out the invoice. It remains as it originally > was and > the debt remains on the books. What the debt write off does is > correct your > income for the amount of income you expected to but didn't receive > and > adjusts the accounts receivable to reflect that you do not expect to > receive > that income. > > If you cancel out the invoice and at some future time the client > coughs up > the money, you will have no way of accounting for how that money was > received but a simple adjustment allows you to reverse the bad debt > write > off and then record the payment against the original invoice. > > When you make a payment against an invoice normally, you do not > change the > amount of the invoice, itself but you increase the amount of an > asset(bank > account) and decrease the amount of the Accounts receivable (also an > asset ) > by the same amount. > > The invoice creates an increase in an income account and an increase > in the > Accounts receivable when it is posted to you accounts. In the case of > a bad > debt you do not adjust the income but an expense account which has > the same > effect on your profit. Expense accounts can be regarded as contra > income > accounts. > > This way your accounts contain a record of the events as they > affected your > finances at the time the events occurred. If they are annotated well > enough > anyone can reconstruct the sequence of events as recorded > > David Cousens > > > > - > David Cousens > -- > Sent from: > http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices?
There is no need to zero out the invoice. It remains as it originally was and the debt remains on the books. What the debt write off does is correct your income for the amount of income you expected to but didn't receive and adjusts the accounts receivable to reflect that you do not expect to receive that income. If you cancel out the invoice and at some future time the client coughs up the money, you will have no way of accounting for how that money was received but a simple adjustment allows you to reverse the bad debt write off and then record the payment against the original invoice. When you make a payment against an invoice normally, you do not change the amount of the invoice, itself but you increase the amount of an asset(bank account) and decrease the amount of the Accounts receivable (also an asset ) by the same amount. The invoice creates an increase in an income account and an increase in the Accounts receivable when it is posted to you accounts. In the case of a bad debt you do not adjust the income but an expense account which has the same effect on your profit. Expense accounts can be regarded as contra income accounts. This way your accounts contain a record of the events as they affected your finances at the time the events occurred. If they are annotated well enough anyone can reconstruct the sequence of events as recorded David Cousens - David Cousens -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices?
I'm having a little trouble with this one. For the "Bad Debts" one, I created expense - bad debts I then added, in this case, $500(which they owe me $500) under Bad Debts - expense I then, to close out the invoice, applied it as payment to the invoice, but then it switches over to rebate? I guess that is wrong? I just want to make sure I zero out the invoice and have a record of it. Thanks On Sat, 2021-03-06 at 23:56 -0600, David Cousens wrote: > The methodology is a little different for each case. > > Where they have not paid the full amount of the invoice without your > acquiesence, then you would generally regard the unpaid amount as a > bad > debt. In a direct write off, you would create an "Expense:Bad Debts" > account and you would credit the Account Receivable account by the > amount > of the write off and debit the Expense:Bad Debts account by the > amount of > the write off. Your income is unaltered at the amount recorded on the > invoice and you are compensated by t the reduction in your Profit ( > and > hence taxable income) by the amount of the bad debt. The receivable > in the > form of the invoice is still active and you are still legally > entitled to > collect on the debt. If the customer eventually paid you at some > time > later, you would create a transaction for the Bad Debt entry between > Expenses:Bad Debts and Accounts Receivable at the time you receive > the money > and record the payments as usual. Depending on whether your > accounting is > on an accrual or cash basis you may need further adjustments. There > are a > number of ways of accounting for bad debts other than a direct write > off > where this is a regular feature in your business operations and you > really > need accounting advice if you need to implement them. > > if you agree to reduce the invoice amount, you could unpost the > invoice, > alter it appropriately and then repost it. This however does not > record that > you have offered the client a discount on the original agreed price. > > An alternative would be to treat it as a discount on the sale. In > this case, > you would use a contra account to your :Income:Sales Revenue account > i.e. > "Income:Sales Revenue:Sales Discounts". To record the discount, you > would > credit the Accounts Receivable for the amount of the Discount you are > applying to the invoice and debit " Income:Sales Revenue:Sales > Discounts" > for the amount you are discounting the invoice by. Again the Invoice > remains > at its original value and in this case your income is adjusted by > the > amount of the discount. > > The above are possible accounting treatments. Whether they are > allowable > will be jurisdiction dependent and you should seek local accounting > advice > as to whether the above approaches or another methodology is > applicable for > the reporting arrangements you need to comply with. > > > > - > David Cousens > -- > Sent from: > http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices?
Thanks to you and Ron! On Sat, 2021-03-06 at 23:56 -0600, David Cousens wrote: > The methodology is a little different for each case. > > Where they have not paid the full amount of the invoice without your > acquiesence, then you would generally regard the unpaid amount as a > bad > debt. In a direct write off, you would create an "Expense:Bad Debts" > account and you would credit the Account Receivable account by the > amount > of the write off and debit the Expense:Bad Debts account by the > amount of > the write off. Your income is unaltered at the amount recorded on the > invoice and you are compensated by t the reduction in your Profit ( > and > hence taxable income) by the amount of the bad debt. The receivable > in the > form of the invoice is still active and you are still legally > entitled to > collect on the debt. If the customer eventually paid you at some > time > later, you would create a transaction for the Bad Debt entry between > Expenses:Bad Debts and Accounts Receivable at the time you receive > the money > and record the payments as usual. Depending on whether your > accounting is > on an accrual or cash basis you may need further adjustments. There > are a > number of ways of accounting for bad debts other than a direct write > off > where this is a regular feature in your business operations and you > really > need accounting advice if you need to implement them. > > if you agree to reduce the invoice amount, you could unpost the > invoice, > alter it appropriately and then repost it. This however does not > record that > you have offered the client a discount on the original agreed price. > > An alternative would be to treat it as a discount on the sale. In > this case, > you would use a contra account to your :Income:Sales Revenue account > i.e. > "Income:Sales Revenue:Sales Discounts". To record the discount, you > would > credit the Accounts Receivable for the amount of the Discount you are > applying to the invoice and debit " Income:Sales Revenue:Sales > Discounts" > for the amount you are discounting the invoice by. Again the Invoice > remains > at its original value and in this case your income is adjusted by > the > amount of the discount. > > The above are possible accounting treatments. Whether they are > allowable > will be jurisdiction dependent and you should seek local accounting > advice > as to whether the above approaches or another methodology is > applicable for > the reporting arrangements you need to comply with. > > > > - > David Cousens > -- > Sent from: > http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Best way to close unpaid invoices?
The methodology is a little different for each case. Where they have not paid the full amount of the invoice without your acquiesence, then you would generally regard the unpaid amount as a bad debt. In a direct write off, you would create an "Expense:Bad Debts" account and you would credit the Account Receivable account by the amount of the write off and debit the Expense:Bad Debts account by the amount of the write off. Your income is unaltered at the amount recorded on the invoice and you are compensated by t the reduction in your Profit ( and hence taxable income) by the amount of the bad debt. The receivable in the form of the invoice is still active and you are still legally entitled to collect on the debt. If the customer eventually paid you at some time later, you would create a transaction for the Bad Debt entry between Expenses:Bad Debts and Accounts Receivable at the time you receive the money and record the payments as usual. Depending on whether your accounting is on an accrual or cash basis you may need further adjustments. There are a number of ways of accounting for bad debts other than a direct write off where this is a regular feature in your business operations and you really need accounting advice if you need to implement them. if you agree to reduce the invoice amount, you could unpost the invoice, alter it appropriately and then repost it. This however does not record that you have offered the client a discount on the original agreed price. An alternative would be to treat it as a discount on the sale. In this case, you would use a contra account to your :Income:Sales Revenue account i.e. "Income:Sales Revenue:Sales Discounts". To record the discount, you would credit the Accounts Receivable for the amount of the Discount you are applying to the invoice and debit " Income:Sales Revenue:Sales Discounts" for the amount you are discounting the invoice by. Again the Invoice remains at its original value and in this case your income is adjusted by the amount of the discount. The above are possible accounting treatments. Whether they are allowable will be jurisdiction dependent and you should seek local accounting advice as to whether the above approaches or another methodology is applicable for the reporting arrangements you need to comply with. - David Cousens -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.