Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Adrien Monteleone]

2.6.15 can’t reliably read the data file from 3.x. (if at all, I haven’t tested 
it)

The lowest you can go is 2.6.19.

You could use the Flatpak version, the .deb that was posted on this list, or 
build from source.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Apr 13, 2019, at 1:31 AM, Gour  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 20:10:36 -0700
> John Ralls  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
>> 2.6.21 and 3.x are supposed to be fully file-compatible. Earlier
>> releases in the 2.6 series may not be depending on what 3.x features
>> you use.
> 
> I'm changing my distro - from Manjaro where I had 3.5 I moved to Devuan
> (Debian) 'unstable' where I have 3.4 and everything, so far looks OK,
> but I'm considering to switch to 'stable' (Ascii) version which has
> 2.6.15 and wonder what can I expect?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> Gour
> 


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Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Greg Feneis]

Awesome, thanks!

Kind regards, Greg Feneis
(Galaxy S7)


On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 17:41 John Ralls  wrote:

> Fixed, try tomorrow's nightly build from
> https://code.gnucash.org/builds/win32/maint.
>
> Turned out to be a std::string scoping issue, gory details in
> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/commit/c091197f572a701cb2ecc81c40fe47bbd41f59aa
> .
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
> > On Apr 11, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >
> > Yay!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Greg Feneis
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 1:08 PM John Ralls  wrote:
> > I managed to replicate the error on Win7 and I've debugged into it a
> bit. The gibberish in the pathname is because a wide-character string
> returned from Windows is getting interpreted as a normal-character string.
> But that's not the only problem, the path to the user-config-dir is getting
> overwritten with the candidate storage path, and that's what's causing the
> error.
> >
> > For some reason this doesn't happen on Win10, so a parallel debugging
> session there is next.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
> >
> >
> > > On Apr 11, 2019, at 10:22 AM, Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Nevermind. I got lost in the thicket.
> > >
> > > I see a message now that you already eliminated DropBox as the problem
> because there are local paths that won’t save either.
> > >
> > > Sorry for the noise.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Adrien
> > >
> > >> On Apr 11, 2019, at 12:14 PM, Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Colin,
> > >>
> > >> This is what I understood as the point to test some messages ago.
> > >>
> > >> Greg,
> > >>
> > >> Several messages back someone mentioned needing to install the
> DropBox client to get real paths as opposed to some mapped paths. The
> reason for this is the mapped paths (which are displayed as real paths
> instead) are insanely longer than the real ones. (ostensibly using some
> sort of UUID in place of each path node) If you use the client, you’ll be
> using the real displayed paths that you see. The premise is that while
> DropBox is showing you what you think is the path, it is reporting
> something else to GnuCash. The path is being garbled by the error message
> because of non-standard characters in the mapped path from DropBox.
> > >>
> > >> So the problem *might* be resolved, (or at least pinpointed) by
> showing FULL paths, because that would show you the path you think you are
> accessing isn’t really that short, it is MUCH longer.
> > >>
> > >> Of course, this might not resolve the problem, but eliminating
> possibilities is part of chasing bugs. If you do have the desktop client
> installed, then you still have another problem, or you indeed found a bug.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Adrien
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On Apr 11, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Colin Law  wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> And, to continue, I hit reply too soon. It is the actual path that
> > >>> gnucash sees not the mirage, so potentially something in the actual
> > >>> path is confusing GC.
> > >>>
> > >>> Colin
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 16:55, Colin Law  wrote:
> > 
> >  In that case I misunderstood.  I thought the point was that Dropbox
> >  does some clever path mapping that makes it look as if the file is
> at
> >  the location you see in the browser, but actually that is a mirage.
> >  It is actually somewhere else entirely.
> > 
> >  Colin
> > 
> > >>
> > >
> > >
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Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[John Ralls]

Fixed, try tomorrow's nightly build from 
https://code.gnucash.org/builds/win32/maint.

Turned out to be a std::string scoping issue, gory details in 
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/commit/c091197f572a701cb2ecc81c40fe47bbd41f59aa.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Apr 11, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> 
> Yay! 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Greg Feneis
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 1:08 PM John Ralls  wrote:
> I managed to replicate the error on Win7 and I've debugged into it a bit. The 
> gibberish in the pathname is because a wide-character string returned from 
> Windows is getting interpreted as a normal-character string. But that's not 
> the only problem, the path to the user-config-dir is getting overwritten with 
> the candidate storage path, and that's what's causing the error.
> 
> For some reason this doesn't happen on Win10, so a parallel debugging session 
> there is next.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> 
> > On Apr 11, 2019, at 10:22 AM, Adrien Monteleone 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Nevermind. I got lost in the thicket.
> > 
> > I see a message now that you already eliminated DropBox as the problem 
> > because there are local paths that won’t save either.
> > 
> > Sorry for the noise.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> > 
> >> On Apr 11, 2019, at 12:14 PM, Adrien Monteleone 
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Colin,
> >> 
> >> This is what I understood as the point to test some messages ago.
> >> 
> >> Greg,
> >> 
> >> Several messages back someone mentioned needing to install the DropBox 
> >> client to get real paths as opposed to some mapped paths. The reason for 
> >> this is the mapped paths (which are displayed as real paths instead) are 
> >> insanely longer than the real ones. (ostensibly using some sort of UUID in 
> >> place of each path node) If you use the client, you’ll be using the real 
> >> displayed paths that you see. The premise is that while DropBox is showing 
> >> you what you think is the path, it is reporting something else to GnuCash. 
> >> The path is being garbled by the error message because of non-standard 
> >> characters in the mapped path from DropBox.
> >> 
> >> So the problem *might* be resolved, (or at least pinpointed) by showing 
> >> FULL paths, because that would show you the path you think you are 
> >> accessing isn’t really that short, it is MUCH longer.
> >> 
> >> Of course, this might not resolve the problem, but eliminating 
> >> possibilities is part of chasing bugs. If you do have the desktop client 
> >> installed, then you still have another problem, or you indeed found a bug.
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> Adrien
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On Apr 11, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Colin Law  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> And, to continue, I hit reply too soon. It is the actual path that
> >>> gnucash sees not the mirage, so potentially something in the actual
> >>> path is confusing GC.
> >>> 
> >>> Colin
> >>> 
> >>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 16:55, Colin Law  wrote:
>  
>  In that case I misunderstood.  I thought the point was that Dropbox
>  does some clever path mapping that makes it look as if the file is at
>  the location you see in the browser, but actually that is a mirage.
>  It is actually somewhere else entirely.
>  
>  Colin
>  
> >> 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Greg Feneis]

Yay!




Kind regards,

Greg Feneis 




On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 1:08 PM John Ralls  wrote:

> I managed to replicate the error on Win7 and I've debugged into it a bit.
> The gibberish in the pathname is because a wide-character string returned
> from Windows is getting interpreted as a normal-character string. But
> that's not the only problem, the path to the user-config-dir is getting
> overwritten with the candidate storage path, and that's what's causing the
> error.
>
> For some reason this doesn't happen on Win10, so a parallel debugging
> session there is next.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
> > On Apr 11, 2019, at 10:22 AM, Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
> >
> > Nevermind. I got lost in the thicket.
> >
> > I see a message now that you already eliminated DropBox as the problem
> because there are local paths that won’t save either.
> >
> > Sorry for the noise.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> >
> >> On Apr 11, 2019, at 12:14 PM, Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Colin,
> >>
> >> This is what I understood as the point to test some messages ago.
> >>
> >> Greg,
> >>
> >> Several messages back someone mentioned needing to install the DropBox
> client to get real paths as opposed to some mapped paths. The reason for
> this is the mapped paths (which are displayed as real paths instead) are
> insanely longer than the real ones. (ostensibly using some sort of UUID in
> place of each path node) If you use the client, you’ll be using the real
> displayed paths that you see. The premise is that while DropBox is showing
> you what you think is the path, it is reporting something else to GnuCash.
> The path is being garbled by the error message because of non-standard
> characters in the mapped path from DropBox.
> >>
> >> So the problem *might* be resolved, (or at least pinpointed) by showing
> FULL paths, because that would show you the path you think you are
> accessing isn’t really that short, it is MUCH longer.
> >>
> >> Of course, this might not resolve the problem, but eliminating
> possibilities is part of chasing bugs. If you do have the desktop client
> installed, then you still have another problem, or you indeed found a bug.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Adrien
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Apr 11, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Colin Law  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> And, to continue, I hit reply too soon. It is the actual path that
> >>> gnucash sees not the mirage, so potentially something in the actual
> >>> path is confusing GC.
> >>>
> >>> Colin
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 16:55, Colin Law  wrote:
> 
>  In that case I misunderstood.  I thought the point was that Dropbox
>  does some clever path mapping that makes it look as if the file is at
>  the location you see in the browser, but actually that is a mirage.
>  It is actually somewhere else entirely.
> 
>  Colin
> 
> >>
> >
> >
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Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[John Ralls]

I managed to replicate the error on Win7 and I've debugged into it a bit. The 
gibberish in the pathname is because a wide-character string returned from 
Windows is getting interpreted as a normal-character string. But that's not the 
only problem, the path to the user-config-dir is getting overwritten with the 
candidate storage path, and that's what's causing the error.

For some reason this doesn't happen on Win10, so a parallel debugging session 
there is next.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Apr 11, 2019, at 10:22 AM, Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nevermind. I got lost in the thicket.
> 
> I see a message now that you already eliminated DropBox as the problem 
> because there are local paths that won’t save either.
> 
> Sorry for the noise.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2019, at 12:14 PM, Adrien Monteleone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Colin,
>> 
>> This is what I understood as the point to test some messages ago.
>> 
>> Greg,
>> 
>> Several messages back someone mentioned needing to install the DropBox 
>> client to get real paths as opposed to some mapped paths. The reason for 
>> this is the mapped paths (which are displayed as real paths instead) are 
>> insanely longer than the real ones. (ostensibly using some sort of UUID in 
>> place of each path node) If you use the client, you’ll be using the real 
>> displayed paths that you see. The premise is that while DropBox is showing 
>> you what you think is the path, it is reporting something else to GnuCash. 
>> The path is being garbled by the error message because of non-standard 
>> characters in the mapped path from DropBox.
>> 
>> So the problem *might* be resolved, (or at least pinpointed) by showing FULL 
>> paths, because that would show you the path you think you are accessing 
>> isn’t really that short, it is MUCH longer.
>> 
>> Of course, this might not resolve the problem, but eliminating possibilities 
>> is part of chasing bugs. If you do have the desktop client installed, then 
>> you still have another problem, or you indeed found a bug.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 11, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Colin Law  wrote:
>>> 
>>> And, to continue, I hit reply too soon. It is the actual path that
>>> gnucash sees not the mirage, so potentially something in the actual
>>> path is confusing GC.
>>> 
>>> Colin
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 16:55, Colin Law  wrote:
 
 In that case I misunderstood.  I thought the point was that Dropbox
 does some clever path mapping that makes it look as if the file is at
 the location you see in the browser, but actually that is a mirage.
 It is actually somewhere else entirely.
 
 Colin
 
>> 
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Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Colin Law]

On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 18:25, Adrien Monteleone
 wrote:
>
> Nevermind. I got lost in the thicket.
>
> I see a message now that you already eliminated DropBox as the problem 
> because there are local paths that won’t save either.

I didn't see that, I can't see where it was mentioned.

Colin

>
> Sorry for the noise.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On Apr 11, 2019, at 12:14 PM, Adrien Monteleone 
> >  wrote:
> >
> > Colin,
> >
> > This is what I understood as the point to test some messages ago.
> >
> > Greg,
> >
> > Several messages back someone mentioned needing to install the DropBox 
> > client to get real paths as opposed to some mapped paths. The reason for 
> > this is the mapped paths (which are displayed as real paths instead) are 
> > insanely longer than the real ones. (ostensibly using some sort of UUID in 
> > place of each path node) If you use the client, you’ll be using the real 
> > displayed paths that you see. The premise is that while DropBox is showing 
> > you what you think is the path, it is reporting something else to GnuCash. 
> > The path is being garbled by the error message because of non-standard 
> > characters in the mapped path from DropBox.
> >
> > So the problem *might* be resolved, (or at least pinpointed) by showing 
> > FULL paths, because that would show you the path you think you are 
> > accessing isn’t really that short, it is MUCH longer.
> >
> > Of course, this might not resolve the problem, but eliminating 
> > possibilities is part of chasing bugs. If you do have the desktop client 
> > installed, then you still have another problem, or you indeed found a bug.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> >
> >
> >> On Apr 11, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Colin Law  wrote:
> >>
> >> And, to continue, I hit reply too soon. It is the actual path that
> >> gnucash sees not the mirage, so potentially something in the actual
> >> path is confusing GC.
> >>
> >> Colin
> >>
> >> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 16:55, Colin Law  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> In that case I misunderstood.  I thought the point was that Dropbox
> >>> does some clever path mapping that makes it look as if the file is at
> >>> the location you see in the browser, but actually that is a mirage.
> >>> It is actually somewhere else entirely.
> >>>
> >>> Colin
> >>>
> >
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Adrien Monteleone]

Nevermind. I got lost in the thicket.

I see a message now that you already eliminated DropBox as the problem because 
there are local paths that won’t save either.

Sorry for the noise.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Apr 11, 2019, at 12:14 PM, Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Colin,
> 
> This is what I understood as the point to test some messages ago.
> 
> Greg,
> 
> Several messages back someone mentioned needing to install the DropBox client 
> to get real paths as opposed to some mapped paths. The reason for this is the 
> mapped paths (which are displayed as real paths instead) are insanely longer 
> than the real ones. (ostensibly using some sort of UUID in place of each path 
> node) If you use the client, you’ll be using the real displayed paths that 
> you see. The premise is that while DropBox is showing you what you think is 
> the path, it is reporting something else to GnuCash. The path is being 
> garbled by the error message because of non-standard characters in the mapped 
> path from DropBox.
> 
> So the problem *might* be resolved, (or at least pinpointed) by showing FULL 
> paths, because that would show you the path you think you are accessing isn’t 
> really that short, it is MUCH longer.
> 
> Of course, this might not resolve the problem, but eliminating possibilities 
> is part of chasing bugs. If you do have the desktop client installed, then 
> you still have another problem, or you indeed found a bug.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Colin Law  wrote:
>> 
>> And, to continue, I hit reply too soon. It is the actual path that
>> gnucash sees not the mirage, so potentially something in the actual
>> path is confusing GC.
>> 
>> Colin
>> 
>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 16:55, Colin Law  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In that case I misunderstood.  I thought the point was that Dropbox
>>> does some clever path mapping that makes it look as if the file is at
>>> the location you see in the browser, but actually that is a mirage.
>>> It is actually somewhere else entirely.
>>> 
>>> Colin
>>> 
> 


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Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Adrien Monteleone]

Colin,

This is what I understood as the point to test some messages ago.

Greg,

Several messages back someone mentioned needing to install the DropBox client 
to get real paths as opposed to some mapped paths. The reason for this is the 
mapped paths (which are displayed as real paths instead) are insanely longer 
than the real ones. (ostensibly using some sort of UUID in place of each path 
node) If you use the client, you’ll be using the real displayed paths that you 
see. The premise is that while DropBox is showing you what you think is the 
path, it is reporting something else to GnuCash. The path is being garbled by 
the error message because of non-standard characters in the mapped path from 
DropBox.

So the problem *might* be resolved, (or at least pinpointed) by showing FULL 
paths, because that would show you the path you think you are accessing isn’t 
really that short, it is MUCH longer.

Of course, this might not resolve the problem, but eliminating possibilities is 
part of chasing bugs. If you do have the desktop client installed, then you 
still have another problem, or you indeed found a bug.

Regards,
Adrien


> On Apr 11, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Colin Law  wrote:
> 
> And, to continue, I hit reply too soon. It is the actual path that
> gnucash sees not the mirage, so potentially something in the actual
> path is confusing GC.
> 
> Colin
> 
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 16:55, Colin Law  wrote:
>> 
>> In that case I misunderstood.  I thought the point was that Dropbox
>> does some clever path mapping that makes it look as if the file is at
>> the location you see in the browser, but actually that is a mirage.
>> It is actually somewhere else entirely.
>> 
>> Colin
>> 


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Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Colin Law]

And, to continue, I hit reply too soon. It is the actual path that
gnucash sees not the mirage, so potentially something in the actual
path is confusing GC.

Colin

On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 16:55, Colin Law  wrote:
>
> In that case I misunderstood.  I thought the point was that Dropbox
> does some clever path mapping that makes it look as if the file is at
> the location you see in the browser, but actually that is a mirage.
> It is actually somewhere else entirely.
>
> Colin
>
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 16:52, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >
> > As I've tried to explain, Jack's recommended settings only affect the 
> > graphical illustration of the folder hierarchy and file location in the 
> > navigation pane of Windows Explorer.  In another part of Windows Explorer, 
> > there is an address bar that displays the full path as text.  Having the 
> > navigation pane work a certain way or not is unnecessary, when the full 
> > path is already displayed in the address bar.
> >
> > I don't need help with viewing/knowing the actual location of the folder 
> > I'd like to save the data file to.  Again, the problem I'm having with 
> > GnuCash is that it fails to save to any path with a generous number of 
> > folders and path length except apparently C:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My 
> > Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official Working File After 
> > Testing Path Lengh  It did that just fine.  I fails to save within Dropbox 
> > folders, it fails to save outside of Dropbox folders.  If I reduce the 
> > number of folders in the path, then the max path length before failure goes 
> > up.  But that means I don't get to save where I want.
> >
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Greg Feneis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 6:09 AM Colin Law  wrote:
> >>
> >> The point is, does it show anything different in that mode?  As I said
> >> it is not suggested that you do that permanently, just use it to see
> >> what the full path actually is, rather than what Dropbox is making it
> >> look like.
> >>
> >> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 14:02, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Understood. I don't have trouble getting Windows explorer to display the 
> >> > full path to me. That works well in text in the address bar. I have 
> >> > experimented with Jack's suggested setting in the past, and found it 
> >> > annoying.
> >> >
> >> > Kind regards, Greg Feneis
> >> > (Galaxy S7)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 05:51 Colin Law  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I agree it won't fix the problem, but looking to see what the full
> >> >> path actually is (which I understood is not what it looks as if it is)
> >> >> may help to diagnose the problem.
> >> >>
> >> >> Colin
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 13:23, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The issue is that in 3.5.1, when I attempt to save to a location that 
> >> >> > I usually save to in 2.6.21, GnuCash won't allow it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In GnuCash's error dialog GnuCash claims the location is reserved by 
> >> >> > GnuCash. Further, in the displaying of the error message, GnuCash 
> >> >> > attempts to display the path I selected, and that varies some, but 
> >> >> > always starts with some gibberish (an indication that the binary data 
> >> >> > doesn't map to any known characters). Sometimes after the gibberish, 
> >> >> > more path text follows, and that's always ...users\Greg\app data\ 
> >> >> > , which isn't the location I'm trying to save to.  So, even when 
> >> >> > GnuCash manages some display of path, it's wrong.  This is GnuCash 
> >> >> > trying to display the path in its own error message dialog box.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Jack's suggestion was for changing the way Windows explorer displays 
> >> >> > the graphical representation of the current location selected by the 
> >> >> > user in Windows Explorer.  This won't help GnuCash display paths 
> >> >> > correctly in its error messages.  Further, getting GnuCash to display 
> >> >> > the path correctly in its error message is just a symptom or clue. 
> >> >> > The actual problem is that GnuCash 3.5.1 fails to save where 2.6.21 
> >> >> > does.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Kind regards, Greg Feneis
> >> >> > (Galaxy S7)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 04:41 Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks Colin, I'm not having trouble viewing a path in Windows 
> >> >> >> explorer, GnuCash is failing to display the correct path in its 
> >> >> >> error dialog.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Kind regards, Greg Feneis
> >> >> >> (Galaxy S7)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 00:57 Colin Law  wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Did you try the suggestion from Jack Lockard earlier in order that 
> >> >> >>> you
> >> >> >>> can see the real full path to that location?  That might provide a
> >> >> >>> clue to what is going on.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Colin
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 02:07, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> > Installed 2.6.21 over the 3.5.1, and it 

Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Colin Law]

In that case I misunderstood.  I thought the point was that Dropbox
does some clever path mapping that makes it look as if the file is at
the location you see in the browser, but actually that is a mirage.
It is actually somewhere else entirely.

Colin

On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 16:52, Greg Feneis  wrote:
>
> As I've tried to explain, Jack's recommended settings only affect the 
> graphical illustration of the folder hierarchy and file location in the 
> navigation pane of Windows Explorer.  In another part of Windows Explorer, 
> there is an address bar that displays the full path as text.  Having the 
> navigation pane work a certain way or not is unnecessary, when the full path 
> is already displayed in the address bar.
>
> I don't need help with viewing/knowing the actual location of the folder I'd 
> like to save the data file to.  Again, the problem I'm having with GnuCash is 
> that it fails to save to any path with a generous number of folders and path 
> length except apparently C:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & 
> D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official Working File After Testing Path Lengh  It 
> did that just fine.  I fails to save within Dropbox folders, it fails to save 
> outside of Dropbox folders.  If I reduce the number of folders in the path, 
> then the max path length before failure goes up.  But that means I don't get 
> to save where I want.
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Greg Feneis
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 6:09 AM Colin Law  wrote:
>>
>> The point is, does it show anything different in that mode?  As I said
>> it is not suggested that you do that permanently, just use it to see
>> what the full path actually is, rather than what Dropbox is making it
>> look like.
>>
>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 14:02, Greg Feneis  wrote:
>> >
>> > Understood. I don't have trouble getting Windows explorer to display the 
>> > full path to me. That works well in text in the address bar. I have 
>> > experimented with Jack's suggested setting in the past, and found it 
>> > annoying.
>> >
>> > Kind regards, Greg Feneis
>> > (Galaxy S7)
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 05:51 Colin Law  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I agree it won't fix the problem, but looking to see what the full
>> >> path actually is (which I understood is not what it looks as if it is)
>> >> may help to diagnose the problem.
>> >>
>> >> Colin
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 13:23, Greg Feneis  wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > The issue is that in 3.5.1, when I attempt to save to a location that I 
>> >> > usually save to in 2.6.21, GnuCash won't allow it.
>> >> >
>> >> > In GnuCash's error dialog GnuCash claims the location is reserved by 
>> >> > GnuCash. Further, in the displaying of the error message, GnuCash 
>> >> > attempts to display the path I selected, and that varies some, but 
>> >> > always starts with some gibberish (an indication that the binary data 
>> >> > doesn't map to any known characters). Sometimes after the gibberish, 
>> >> > more path text follows, and that's always ...users\Greg\app data\ , 
>> >> > which isn't the location I'm trying to save to.  So, even when GnuCash 
>> >> > manages some display of path, it's wrong.  This is GnuCash trying to 
>> >> > display the path in its own error message dialog box.
>> >> >
>> >> > Jack's suggestion was for changing the way Windows explorer displays 
>> >> > the graphical representation of the current location selected by the 
>> >> > user in Windows Explorer.  This won't help GnuCash display paths 
>> >> > correctly in its error messages.  Further, getting GnuCash to display 
>> >> > the path correctly in its error message is just a symptom or clue. The 
>> >> > actual problem is that GnuCash 3.5.1 fails to save where 2.6.21 does.
>> >> >
>> >> > Kind regards, Greg Feneis
>> >> > (Galaxy S7)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 04:41 Greg Feneis  wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks Colin, I'm not having trouble viewing a path in Windows 
>> >> >> explorer, GnuCash is failing to display the correct path in its error 
>> >> >> dialog.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Kind regards, Greg Feneis
>> >> >> (Galaxy S7)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 00:57 Colin Law  wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Did you try the suggestion from Jack Lockard earlier in order that you
>> >> >>> can see the real full path to that location?  That might provide a
>> >> >>> clue to what is going on.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Colin
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 02:07, Greg Feneis  wrote:
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Installed 2.6.21 over the 3.5.1, and it was able to save as in the 
>> >> >>> > usual
>> >> >>> > location, that 3.5 and 3.5.1 have trouble
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Kind regards, Greg Feneis
>> >> >>> > (Galaxy S7)
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 09:04 Greg Feneis  wrote:
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > > Well, I upgraded to "Rebuild of the GnuCash 3.5 Windows Bundle", 
>> >> >>> > > but
>> >> >>> > > GnuCash still gives me the strange error when I try to save to 
>> >> 

Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Greg Feneis]

As I've tried to explain, Jack's recommended settings only affect the
graphical illustration of the folder hierarchy and file location in the
navigation pane of Windows Explorer.  In another part of Windows Explorer,
there is an address bar that displays the full path as text.  Having the
navigation pane work a certain way or not is unnecessary, when the full
path is already displayed in the address bar.

I don't need help with viewing/knowing the actual location of the folder
I'd like to save the data file to.  Again, the problem I'm having with
GnuCash is that it fails to save to any path with a generous number of
folders and path length except apparently C:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My
Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official Working File After
Testing Path Lengh  It did that just fine.  I fails to save within Dropbox
folders, it fails to save outside of Dropbox folders.  If I reduce the
number of folders in the path, then the max path length before failure goes
up.  But that means I don't get to save where I want.


Kind regards,

Greg Feneis 




On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 6:09 AM Colin Law  wrote:

> The point is, does it show anything different in that mode?  As I said
> it is not suggested that you do that permanently, just use it to see
> what the full path actually is, rather than what Dropbox is making it
> look like.
>
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 14:02, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >
> > Understood. I don't have trouble getting Windows explorer to display the
> full path to me. That works well in text in the address bar. I have
> experimented with Jack's suggested setting in the past, and found it
> annoying.
> >
> > Kind regards, Greg Feneis
> > (Galaxy S7)
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 05:51 Colin Law  wrote:
> >>
> >> I agree it won't fix the problem, but looking to see what the full
> >> path actually is (which I understood is not what it looks as if it is)
> >> may help to diagnose the problem.
> >>
> >> Colin
> >>
> >> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 13:23, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > The issue is that in 3.5.1, when I attempt to save to a location that
> I usually save to in 2.6.21, GnuCash won't allow it.
> >> >
> >> > In GnuCash's error dialog GnuCash claims the location is reserved by
> GnuCash. Further, in the displaying of the error message, GnuCash attempts
> to display the path I selected, and that varies some, but always starts
> with some gibberish (an indication that the binary data doesn't map to any
> known characters). Sometimes after the gibberish, more path text follows,
> and that's always ...users\Greg\app data\ , which isn't the location
> I'm trying to save to.  So, even when GnuCash manages some display of path,
> it's wrong.  This is GnuCash trying to display the path in its own error
> message dialog box.
> >> >
> >> > Jack's suggestion was for changing the way Windows explorer displays
> the graphical representation of the current location selected by the user
> in Windows Explorer.  This won't help GnuCash display paths correctly in
> its error messages.  Further, getting GnuCash to display the path correctly
> in its error message is just a symptom or clue. The actual problem is that
> GnuCash 3.5.1 fails to save where 2.6.21 does.
> >> >
> >> > Kind regards, Greg Feneis
> >> > (Galaxy S7)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 04:41 Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks Colin, I'm not having trouble viewing a path in Windows
> explorer, GnuCash is failing to display the correct path in its error
> dialog.
> >> >>
> >> >> Kind regards, Greg Feneis
> >> >> (Galaxy S7)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 00:57 Colin Law  wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Did you try the suggestion from Jack Lockard earlier in order that
> you
> >> >>> can see the real full path to that location?  That might provide a
> >> >>> clue to what is going on.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Colin
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 02:07, Greg Feneis 
> wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Installed 2.6.21 over the 3.5.1, and it was able to save as in
> the usual
> >> >>> > location, that 3.5 and 3.5.1 have trouble
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Kind regards, Greg Feneis
> >> >>> > (Galaxy S7)
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 09:04 Greg Feneis 
> wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > > Well, I upgraded to "Rebuild of the GnuCash 3.5 Windows
> Bundle", but
> >> >>> > > GnuCash still gives me the strange error when I try to save to
> the usual
> >> >>> > > location where I've saved in the past successfully with 2.6.x.
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > Kind regards,
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > Greg Feneis
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 12:42 PM Greg Feneis 
> wrote:
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >> So far, nobody seems to be able to repeat this issue, so we
> haven't ruled
> >> >>> > >> out that it's a failure of my computer that's causing this.
> So it's
> >> >>> > >> probably not worth adding to the bug tracker.

Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Jack Lockard]

There is a program available named TLPD that will search for long paths and 
give a report showing the total length and the fully qualified path/filename. 
It is a GNU license and can be obtained here: 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/tlpd/

I downloaded it and ran it on the OneDrive folder on my PC. It asks for the 
drive/folder to search and then the length threshold to report on. This may 
help in your quest to figure out what is going on.

Jack

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user  On 
Behalf Of Colin Law
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:10 AM
To: Greg Feneis 
Cc: Gnucash Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

The point is, does it show anything different in that mode?  As I said it is 
not suggested that you do that permanently, just use it to see what the full 
path actually is, rather than what Dropbox is making it look like.

On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 14:02, Greg Feneis  wrote:
>
> Understood. I don't have trouble getting Windows explorer to display the full 
> path to me. That works well in text in the address bar. I have experimented 
> with Jack's suggested setting in the past, and found it annoying.
>
> Kind regards, Greg Feneis
> (Galaxy S7)
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 05:51 Colin Law  wrote:
>>
>> I agree it won't fix the problem, but looking to see what the full 
>> path actually is (which I understood is not what it looks as if it 
>> is) may help to diagnose the problem.
>>
>> Colin
>>
>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 13:23, Greg Feneis  wrote:
>> >
>> > The issue is that in 3.5.1, when I attempt to save to a location that I 
>> > usually save to in 2.6.21, GnuCash won't allow it.
>> >
>> > In GnuCash's error dialog GnuCash claims the location is reserved by 
>> > GnuCash. Further, in the displaying of the error message, GnuCash attempts 
>> > to display the path I selected, and that varies some, but always starts 
>> > with some gibberish (an indication that the binary data doesn't map to any 
>> > known characters). Sometimes after the gibberish, more path text follows, 
>> > and that's always ...users\Greg\app data\ , which isn't the location 
>> > I'm trying to save to.  So, even when GnuCash manages some display of 
>> > path, it's wrong.  This is GnuCash trying to display the path in its own 
>> > error message dialog box.
>> >
>> > Jack's suggestion was for changing the way Windows explorer displays the 
>> > graphical representation of the current location selected by the user in 
>> > Windows Explorer.  This won't help GnuCash display paths correctly in its 
>> > error messages.  Further, getting GnuCash to display the path correctly in 
>> > its error message is just a symptom or clue. The actual problem is that 
>> > GnuCash 3.5.1 fails to save where 2.6.21 does.
>> >
>> > Kind regards, Greg Feneis
>> > (Galaxy S7)
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 04:41 Greg Feneis  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thanks Colin, I'm not having trouble viewing a path in Windows explorer, 
>> >> GnuCash is failing to display the correct path in its error dialog.
>> >>
>> >> Kind regards, Greg Feneis
>> >> (Galaxy S7)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 00:57 Colin Law  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Did you try the suggestion from Jack Lockard earlier in order 
>> >>> that you can see the real full path to that location?  That might 
>> >>> provide a clue to what is going on.
>> >>>
>> >>> Colin
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 02:07, Greg Feneis  wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Installed 2.6.21 over the 3.5.1, and it was able to save as in 
>> >>> > the usual location, that 3.5 and 3.5.1 have trouble
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Kind regards, Greg Feneis
>> >>> > (Galaxy S7)
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 09:04 Greg Feneis  wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > > Well, I upgraded to "Rebuild of the GnuCash 3.5 Windows 
>> >>> > > Bundle", but GnuCash still gives me the strange error when I 
>> >>> > > try to save to the usual location where I've saved in the past 
>> >>> > > successfully with 2.6.x.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Kind regards,
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Greg Feneis
>> >>> > >
>> >>> >

Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Colin Law]

The point is, does it show anything different in that mode?  As I said
it is not suggested that you do that permanently, just use it to see
what the full path actually is, rather than what Dropbox is making it
look like.

On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 14:02, Greg Feneis  wrote:
>
> Understood. I don't have trouble getting Windows explorer to display the full 
> path to me. That works well in text in the address bar. I have experimented 
> with Jack's suggested setting in the past, and found it annoying.
>
> Kind regards, Greg Feneis
> (Galaxy S7)
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 05:51 Colin Law  wrote:
>>
>> I agree it won't fix the problem, but looking to see what the full
>> path actually is (which I understood is not what it looks as if it is)
>> may help to diagnose the problem.
>>
>> Colin
>>
>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 13:23, Greg Feneis  wrote:
>> >
>> > The issue is that in 3.5.1, when I attempt to save to a location that I 
>> > usually save to in 2.6.21, GnuCash won't allow it.
>> >
>> > In GnuCash's error dialog GnuCash claims the location is reserved by 
>> > GnuCash. Further, in the displaying of the error message, GnuCash attempts 
>> > to display the path I selected, and that varies some, but always starts 
>> > with some gibberish (an indication that the binary data doesn't map to any 
>> > known characters). Sometimes after the gibberish, more path text follows, 
>> > and that's always ...users\Greg\app data\ , which isn't the location 
>> > I'm trying to save to.  So, even when GnuCash manages some display of 
>> > path, it's wrong.  This is GnuCash trying to display the path in its own 
>> > error message dialog box.
>> >
>> > Jack's suggestion was for changing the way Windows explorer displays the 
>> > graphical representation of the current location selected by the user in 
>> > Windows Explorer.  This won't help GnuCash display paths correctly in its 
>> > error messages.  Further, getting GnuCash to display the path correctly in 
>> > its error message is just a symptom or clue. The actual problem is that 
>> > GnuCash 3.5.1 fails to save where 2.6.21 does.
>> >
>> > Kind regards, Greg Feneis
>> > (Galaxy S7)
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 04:41 Greg Feneis  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thanks Colin, I'm not having trouble viewing a path in Windows explorer, 
>> >> GnuCash is failing to display the correct path in its error dialog.
>> >>
>> >> Kind regards, Greg Feneis
>> >> (Galaxy S7)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 00:57 Colin Law  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Did you try the suggestion from Jack Lockard earlier in order that you
>> >>> can see the real full path to that location?  That might provide a
>> >>> clue to what is going on.
>> >>>
>> >>> Colin
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 02:07, Greg Feneis  wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Installed 2.6.21 over the 3.5.1, and it was able to save as in the 
>> >>> > usual
>> >>> > location, that 3.5 and 3.5.1 have trouble
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Kind regards, Greg Feneis
>> >>> > (Galaxy S7)
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 09:04 Greg Feneis  wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > > Well, I upgraded to "Rebuild of the GnuCash 3.5 Windows Bundle", but
>> >>> > > GnuCash still gives me the strange error when I try to save to the 
>> >>> > > usual
>> >>> > > location where I've saved in the past successfully with 2.6.x.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Kind regards,
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Greg Feneis
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 12:42 PM Greg Feneis  
>> >>> > > wrote:
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >> So far, nobody seems to be able to repeat this issue, so we haven't 
>> >>> > >> ruled
>> >>> > >> out that it's a failure of my computer that's causing this.  So it's
>> >>> > >> probably not worth adding to the bug tracker.
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> Kind regards,
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> Greg Feneis 
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 8:10 PM John Ralls  
>> >>> > >> wrote:
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >>> Greg,
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>> 2.6.21 and 3.x are supposed to be fully file-compatible. Earlier
>> >>> > >>> releases in the 2.6 series may not be depending on what 3.x 
>> >>> > >>> features you
>> >>> > >>> use.
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>> If you'd prefer to continue the troubleshooting in the bug 
>> >>> > >>> tracker, file
>> >>> > >>> a bug.
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>> Regards,
>> >>> > >>> John Ralls
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>> > On Apr 8, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Greg Feneis  
>> >>> > >>> > wrote:
>> >>> > >>> >
>> >>> > >>> > Just a coupe of questions,
>> >>> > >>> >
>> >>> > >>> > 1.  Once the working file (xml) is saved by 3.5, does it remain
>> >>> > >>> backward compatible with 2.6.21 in case I want to downgrade?
>> >>> > >>> >
>> >>> > >>> > 2.  Should I log this bug in bugzilla?
>> >>> > >>> >
>> >>> > >>> > Kind regards,
>> >>> > >>> >
>> >>> > >>> > Greg Feneis
>> >>> > >>> >
>> >>> > >>> >
>> 

Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Greg Feneis]

Understood. I don't have trouble getting Windows explorer to display the
full path to me. That works well in text in the address bar. I have
experimented with Jack's suggested setting in the past, and found it
annoying.

Kind regards, Greg Feneis
(Galaxy S7)


On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 05:51 Colin Law  wrote:

> I agree it won't fix the problem, but looking to see what the full
> path actually is (which I understood is not what it looks as if it is)
> may help to diagnose the problem.
>
> Colin
>
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 13:23, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >
> > The issue is that in 3.5.1, when I attempt to save to a location that I
> usually save to in 2.6.21, GnuCash won't allow it.
> >
> > In GnuCash's error dialog GnuCash claims the location is reserved by
> GnuCash. Further, in the displaying of the error message, GnuCash attempts
> to display the path I selected, and that varies some, but always starts
> with some gibberish (an indication that the binary data doesn't map to any
> known characters). Sometimes after the gibberish, more path text follows,
> and that's always ...users\Greg\app data\ , which isn't the location
> I'm trying to save to.  So, even when GnuCash manages some display of path,
> it's wrong.  This is GnuCash trying to display the path in its own error
> message dialog box.
> >
> > Jack's suggestion was for changing the way Windows explorer displays the
> graphical representation of the current location selected by the user in
> Windows Explorer.  This won't help GnuCash display paths correctly in its
> error messages.  Further, getting GnuCash to display the path correctly in
> its error message is just a symptom or clue. The actual problem is that
> GnuCash 3.5.1 fails to save where 2.6.21 does.
> >
> > Kind regards, Greg Feneis
> > (Galaxy S7)
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 04:41 Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks Colin, I'm not having trouble viewing a path in Windows
> explorer, GnuCash is failing to display the correct path in its error
> dialog.
> >>
> >> Kind regards, Greg Feneis
> >> (Galaxy S7)
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 00:57 Colin Law  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Did you try the suggestion from Jack Lockard earlier in order that you
> >>> can see the real full path to that location?  That might provide a
> >>> clue to what is going on.
> >>>
> >>> Colin
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 02:07, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Installed 2.6.21 over the 3.5.1, and it was able to save as in the
> usual
> >>> > location, that 3.5 and 3.5.1 have trouble
> >>> >
> >>> > Kind regards, Greg Feneis
> >>> > (Galaxy S7)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 09:04 Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > Well, I upgraded to "Rebuild of the GnuCash 3.5 Windows Bundle",
> but
> >>> > > GnuCash still gives me the strange error when I try to save to the
> usual
> >>> > > location where I've saved in the past successfully with 2.6.x.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Kind regards,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Greg Feneis
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 12:42 PM Greg Feneis 
> wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > >> So far, nobody seems to be able to repeat this issue, so we
> haven't ruled
> >>> > >> out that it's a failure of my computer that's causing this.  So
> it's
> >>> > >> probably not worth adding to the bug tracker.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Kind regards,
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Greg Feneis 
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 8:10 PM John Ralls 
> wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>> Greg,
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> 2.6.21 and 3.x are supposed to be fully file-compatible. Earlier
> >>> > >>> releases in the 2.6 series may not be depending on what 3.x
> features you
> >>> > >>> use.
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> If you'd prefer to continue the troubleshooting in the bug
> tracker, file
> >>> > >>> a bug.
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> Regards,
> >>> > >>> John Ralls
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> > On Apr 8, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Greg Feneis 
> wrote:
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> > Just a coupe of questions,
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> > 1.  Once the working file (xml) is saved by 3.5, does it remain
> >>> > >>> backward compatible with 2.6.21 in case I want to downgrade?
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> > 2.  Should I log this bug in bugzilla?
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> > Kind regards,
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> > Greg Feneis
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 7:27 AM Greg Feneis 
> wrote:
> >>> > >>> > Hi John,
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> > Sorry I missed this yesterday.  The language is English (United
> >>> > >>> States), The Location is United States. The current language for
> >>> > >>> non-Unicode programs is English (United States)
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> > Kind regards,
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> > Greg Feneis
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 

Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Colin Law]

I agree it won't fix the problem, but looking to see what the full
path actually is (which I understood is not what it looks as if it is)
may help to diagnose the problem.

Colin

On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 13:23, Greg Feneis  wrote:
>
> The issue is that in 3.5.1, when I attempt to save to a location that I 
> usually save to in 2.6.21, GnuCash won't allow it.
>
> In GnuCash's error dialog GnuCash claims the location is reserved by GnuCash. 
> Further, in the displaying of the error message, GnuCash attempts to display 
> the path I selected, and that varies some, but always starts with some 
> gibberish (an indication that the binary data doesn't map to any known 
> characters). Sometimes after the gibberish, more path text follows, and 
> that's always ...users\Greg\app data\ , which isn't the location I'm 
> trying to save to.  So, even when GnuCash manages some display of path, it's 
> wrong.  This is GnuCash trying to display the path in its own error message 
> dialog box.
>
> Jack's suggestion was for changing the way Windows explorer displays the 
> graphical representation of the current location selected by the user in 
> Windows Explorer.  This won't help GnuCash display paths correctly in its 
> error messages.  Further, getting GnuCash to display the path correctly in 
> its error message is just a symptom or clue. The actual problem is that 
> GnuCash 3.5.1 fails to save where 2.6.21 does.
>
> Kind regards, Greg Feneis
> (Galaxy S7)
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 04:41 Greg Feneis  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Colin, I'm not having trouble viewing a path in Windows explorer, 
>> GnuCash is failing to display the correct path in its error dialog.
>>
>> Kind regards, Greg Feneis
>> (Galaxy S7)
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 00:57 Colin Law  wrote:
>>>
>>> Did you try the suggestion from Jack Lockard earlier in order that you
>>> can see the real full path to that location?  That might provide a
>>> clue to what is going on.
>>>
>>> Colin
>>>
>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 02:07, Greg Feneis  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Installed 2.6.21 over the 3.5.1, and it was able to save as in the usual
>>> > location, that 3.5 and 3.5.1 have trouble
>>> >
>>> > Kind regards, Greg Feneis
>>> > (Galaxy S7)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 09:04 Greg Feneis  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Well, I upgraded to "Rebuild of the GnuCash 3.5 Windows Bundle", but
>>> > > GnuCash still gives me the strange error when I try to save to the usual
>>> > > location where I've saved in the past successfully with 2.6.x.
>>> > >
>>> > > Kind regards,
>>> > >
>>> > > Greg Feneis
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 12:42 PM Greg Feneis  wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> So far, nobody seems to be able to repeat this issue, so we haven't 
>>> > >> ruled
>>> > >> out that it's a failure of my computer that's causing this.  So it's
>>> > >> probably not worth adding to the bug tracker.
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Kind regards,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Greg Feneis 
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 8:10 PM John Ralls  wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>> Greg,
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> 2.6.21 and 3.x are supposed to be fully file-compatible. Earlier
>>> > >>> releases in the 2.6 series may not be depending on what 3.x features 
>>> > >>> you
>>> > >>> use.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> If you'd prefer to continue the troubleshooting in the bug tracker, 
>>> > >>> file
>>> > >>> a bug.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Regards,
>>> > >>> John Ralls
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> > On Apr 8, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > Just a coupe of questions,
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > 1.  Once the working file (xml) is saved by 3.5, does it remain
>>> > >>> backward compatible with 2.6.21 in case I want to downgrade?
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > 2.  Should I log this bug in bugzilla?
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > Kind regards,
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > Greg Feneis
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 7:27 AM Greg Feneis  
>>> > >>> > wrote:
>>> > >>> > Hi John,
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > Sorry I missed this yesterday.  The language is English (United
>>> > >>> States), The Location is United States. The current language for
>>> > >>> non-Unicode programs is English (United States)
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > Kind regards,
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > Greg Feneis
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 4:33 PM John Ralls  
>>> > >>> > wrote:
>>> > >>> > Indeed. I just tried C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & 
>>> > >>> > D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>>> > >>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash. No problem.
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > What are your Language and Region settings? Have you set LANG and
>>> > >>> LANGUAGES in C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\etc\gnucash\environment? 
>>> > >>> Is
>>> > >>> your userid an Administrator?
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > Regards,
>>> > >>> > John Ralls
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> >
>>> > 

Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Greg Feneis]

The issue is that in 3.5.1, when I attempt to save to a location that I
usually save to in 2.6.21, GnuCash won't allow it.

In GnuCash's error dialog GnuCash claims the location is reserved by
GnuCash. Further, in the displaying of the error message, GnuCash attempts
to display the path I selected, and that varies some, but always starts
with some gibberish (an indication that the binary data doesn't map to any
known characters). Sometimes after the gibberish, more path text follows,
and that's always ...users\Greg\app data\ , which isn't the location
I'm trying to save to.  So, even when GnuCash manages some display of path,
it's wrong.  This is GnuCash trying to display the path in its own error
message dialog box.

Jack's suggestion was for changing the way Windows explorer displays the
graphical representation of the current location selected by the user in
Windows Explorer.  This won't help GnuCash display paths correctly in its
error messages.  Further, getting GnuCash to display the path correctly in
its error message is just a symptom or clue. The actual problem is that
GnuCash 3.5.1 fails to save where 2.6.21 does.

Kind regards, Greg Feneis
(Galaxy S7)


On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 04:41 Greg Feneis  wrote:

> Thanks Colin, I'm not having trouble viewing a path in Windows explorer,
> GnuCash is failing to display the correct path in its error dialog.
>
> Kind regards, Greg Feneis
> (Galaxy S7)
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 00:57 Colin Law  wrote:
>
>> Did you try the suggestion from Jack Lockard earlier in order that you
>> can see the real full path to that location?  That might provide a
>> clue to what is going on.
>>
>> Colin
>>
>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 02:07, Greg Feneis  wrote:
>> >
>> > Installed 2.6.21 over the 3.5.1, and it was able to save as in the usual
>> > location, that 3.5 and 3.5.1 have trouble
>> >
>> > Kind regards, Greg Feneis
>> > (Galaxy S7)
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 09:04 Greg Feneis  wrote:
>> >
>> > > Well, I upgraded to "Rebuild of the GnuCash 3.5 Windows Bundle", but
>> > > GnuCash still gives me the strange error when I try to save to the
>> usual
>> > > location where I've saved in the past successfully with 2.6.x.
>> > >
>> > > Kind regards,
>> > >
>> > > Greg Feneis
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 12:42 PM Greg Feneis 
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> So far, nobody seems to be able to repeat this issue, so we haven't
>> ruled
>> > >> out that it's a failure of my computer that's causing this.  So it's
>> > >> probably not worth adding to the bug tracker.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Kind regards,
>> > >>
>> > >> Greg Feneis 
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 8:10 PM John Ralls 
>> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Greg,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> 2.6.21 and 3.x are supposed to be fully file-compatible. Earlier
>> > >>> releases in the 2.6 series may not be depending on what 3.x
>> features you
>> > >>> use.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> If you'd prefer to continue the troubleshooting in the bug tracker,
>> file
>> > >>> a bug.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Regards,
>> > >>> John Ralls
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> > On Apr 8, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Greg Feneis 
>> wrote:
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Just a coupe of questions,
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > 1.  Once the working file (xml) is saved by 3.5, does it remain
>> > >>> backward compatible with 2.6.21 in case I want to downgrade?
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > 2.  Should I log this bug in bugzilla?
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Kind regards,
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Greg Feneis
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 7:27 AM Greg Feneis 
>> wrote:
>> > >>> > Hi John,
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Sorry I missed this yesterday.  The language is English (United
>> > >>> States), The Location is United States. The current language for
>> > >>> non-Unicode programs is English (United States)
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Kind regards,
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Greg Feneis
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 4:33 PM John Ralls 
>> wrote:
>> > >>> > Indeed. I just tried C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C &
>> D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>> > >>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash. No problem.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > What are your Language and Region settings? Have you set LANG and
>> > >>> LANGUAGES in C:\Program Files
>> (x86)\gnucash\etc\gnucash\environment? Is
>> > >>> your userid an Administrator?
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Regards,
>> > >>> > John Ralls
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > > On Apr 7, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Greg Feneis 
>> wrote:
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > > John,
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > > I misread your instructions and only attempted to save outside
>> of
>> > >>> the Dropbox folder, but not in my ...\Users\Greg\... folder, so I
>> tried
>> > >>> this path and file name:
>> > >>> > > C:\Xobpord\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official
>> > >>> Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (117 chars,

Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Greg Feneis]

Thanks Colin, I'm not having trouble viewing a path in Windows explorer,
GnuCash is failing to display the correct path in its error dialog.

Kind regards, Greg Feneis
(Galaxy S7)


On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 00:57 Colin Law  wrote:

> Did you try the suggestion from Jack Lockard earlier in order that you
> can see the real full path to that location?  That might provide a
> clue to what is going on.
>
> Colin
>
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 02:07, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >
> > Installed 2.6.21 over the 3.5.1, and it was able to save as in the usual
> > location, that 3.5 and 3.5.1 have trouble
> >
> > Kind regards, Greg Feneis
> > (Galaxy S7)
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 09:04 Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >
> > > Well, I upgraded to "Rebuild of the GnuCash 3.5 Windows Bundle", but
> > > GnuCash still gives me the strange error when I try to save to the
> usual
> > > location where I've saved in the past successfully with 2.6.x.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > > Greg Feneis
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 12:42 PM Greg Feneis  wrote:
> > >
> > >> So far, nobody seems to be able to repeat this issue, so we haven't
> ruled
> > >> out that it's a failure of my computer that's causing this.  So it's
> > >> probably not worth adding to the bug tracker.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Kind regards,
> > >>
> > >> Greg Feneis 
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 8:10 PM John Ralls  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Greg,
> > >>>
> > >>> 2.6.21 and 3.x are supposed to be fully file-compatible. Earlier
> > >>> releases in the 2.6 series may not be depending on what 3.x features
> you
> > >>> use.
> > >>>
> > >>> If you'd prefer to continue the troubleshooting in the bug tracker,
> file
> > >>> a bug.
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>> John Ralls
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> > On Apr 8, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Just a coupe of questions,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > 1.  Once the working file (xml) is saved by 3.5, does it remain
> > >>> backward compatible with 2.6.21 in case I want to downgrade?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > 2.  Should I log this bug in bugzilla?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Kind regards,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Greg Feneis
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 7:27 AM Greg Feneis 
> wrote:
> > >>> > Hi John,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Sorry I missed this yesterday.  The language is English (United
> > >>> States), The Location is United States. The current language for
> > >>> non-Unicode programs is English (United States)
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Kind regards,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Greg Feneis
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 4:33 PM John Ralls 
> wrote:
> > >>> > Indeed. I just tried C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C &
> D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> > >>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash. No problem.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > What are your Language and Region settings? Have you set LANG and
> > >>> LANGUAGES in C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\etc\gnucash\environment?
> Is
> > >>> your userid an Administrator?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Regards,
> > >>> > John Ralls
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > On Apr 7, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Greg Feneis 
> wrote:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > John,
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > I misread your instructions and only attempted to save outside of
> > >>> the Dropbox folder, but not in my ...\Users\Greg\... folder, so I
> tried
> > >>> this path and file name:
> > >>> > > C:\Xobpord\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official
> > >>> Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (117 chars,
> outside of
> > >>> Dropbox, Failure!)
> > >>> > > The error message reads:
> > >>> > > "You attempted to save in
> > >>> H[gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or a subdirectory
> thereof.
> > >>> This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that directory for internal
> > >>> usePlease try again in a different directory. (close).
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Then I read your email again before starting a reply and realized
> > >>> you spec'd the home directory, so I tried the following path and
> file name:
> > >>> > > C:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> > >>> Files\Official Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash
> (128
> > >>> chars, outside of Dropbox, inside user folder, success!)
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > So, appears with 3.5 I can only have a generous path while saving
> > >>> within the windows user folder?
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Things are getting curiouser
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Kind regards,¯¯
> > >>> > > Greg
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 1:46 PM John Ralls 
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > > Just to completely rule out Dropbox being somehow involved, could
> > >>> you create the same hierarchy in your home directory, i.e.
> > >>> c:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\Gnucash Files\
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > I was able to successfully save
> > >>> > > C:\Users\John 

Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Colin Law]

Did you try the suggestion from Jack Lockard earlier in order that you
can see the real full path to that location?  That might provide a
clue to what is going on.

Colin

On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 02:07, Greg Feneis  wrote:
>
> Installed 2.6.21 over the 3.5.1, and it was able to save as in the usual
> location, that 3.5 and 3.5.1 have trouble
>
> Kind regards, Greg Feneis
> (Galaxy S7)
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 09:04 Greg Feneis  wrote:
>
> > Well, I upgraded to "Rebuild of the GnuCash 3.5 Windows Bundle", but
> > GnuCash still gives me the strange error when I try to save to the usual
> > location where I've saved in the past successfully with 2.6.x.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Greg Feneis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 12:42 PM Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >
> >> So far, nobody seems to be able to repeat this issue, so we haven't ruled
> >> out that it's a failure of my computer that's causing this.  So it's
> >> probably not worth adding to the bug tracker.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >>
> >> Greg Feneis 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 8:10 PM John Ralls  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Greg,
> >>>
> >>> 2.6.21 and 3.x are supposed to be fully file-compatible. Earlier
> >>> releases in the 2.6 series may not be depending on what 3.x features you
> >>> use.
> >>>
> >>> If you'd prefer to continue the troubleshooting in the bug tracker, file
> >>> a bug.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> John Ralls
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > On Apr 8, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Just a coupe of questions,
> >>> >
> >>> > 1.  Once the working file (xml) is saved by 3.5, does it remain
> >>> backward compatible with 2.6.21 in case I want to downgrade?
> >>> >
> >>> > 2.  Should I log this bug in bugzilla?
> >>> >
> >>> > Kind regards,
> >>> >
> >>> > Greg Feneis
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 7:27 AM Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >>> > Hi John,
> >>> >
> >>> > Sorry I missed this yesterday.  The language is English (United
> >>> States), The Location is United States. The current language for
> >>> non-Unicode programs is English (United States)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Kind regards,
> >>> >
> >>> > Greg Feneis
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 4:33 PM John Ralls  wrote:
> >>> > Indeed. I just tried C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> >>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash. No problem.
> >>> >
> >>> > What are your Language and Region settings? Have you set LANG and
> >>> LANGUAGES in C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\etc\gnucash\environment? Is
> >>> your userid an Administrator?
> >>> >
> >>> > Regards,
> >>> > John Ralls
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > On Apr 7, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > John,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I misread your instructions and only attempted to save outside of
> >>> the Dropbox folder, but not in my ...\Users\Greg\... folder, so I tried
> >>> this path and file name:
> >>> > > C:\Xobpord\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official
> >>> Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (117 chars, outside 
> >>> of
> >>> Dropbox, Failure!)
> >>> > > The error message reads:
> >>> > > "You attempted to save in
> >>> H[gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or a subdirectory thereof.
> >>> This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that directory for internal
> >>> usePlease try again in a different directory. (close).
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Then I read your email again before starting a reply and realized
> >>> you spec'd the home directory, so I tried the following path and file 
> >>> name:
> >>> > > C:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> >>> Files\Official Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (128
> >>> chars, outside of Dropbox, inside user folder, success!)
> >>> > >
> >>> > > So, appears with 3.5 I can only have a generous path while saving
> >>> within the windows user folder?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Things are getting curiouser
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Kind regards,¯¯
> >>> > > Greg
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 1:46 PM John Ralls 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > > Just to completely rule out Dropbox being somehow involved, could
> >>> you create the same hierarchy in your home directory, i.e.
> >>> c:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\Gnucash Files\
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I was able to successfully save
> >>> > > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> >>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash
> >>> > > and its log file
> >>> > > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> >>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash.20190407134124.log
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Regards,
> >>> > > John Ralls
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > > On Apr 7, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Greg Feneis 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Some more testing on the issue where 3.5 seems to want a shorter
> >>> path than 2.6.x did:
> 

Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Greg Feneis]

Installed 2.6.21 over the 3.5.1, and it was able to save as in the usual
location, that 3.5 and 3.5.1 have trouble

Kind regards, Greg Feneis
(Galaxy S7)


On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 09:04 Greg Feneis  wrote:

> Well, I upgraded to "Rebuild of the GnuCash 3.5 Windows Bundle", but
> GnuCash still gives me the strange error when I try to save to the usual
> location where I've saved in the past successfully with 2.6.x.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Greg Feneis
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 12:42 PM Greg Feneis  wrote:
>
>> So far, nobody seems to be able to repeat this issue, so we haven't ruled
>> out that it's a failure of my computer that's causing this.  So it's
>> probably not worth adding to the bug tracker.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Greg Feneis 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 8:10 PM John Ralls  wrote:
>>
>>> Greg,
>>>
>>> 2.6.21 and 3.x are supposed to be fully file-compatible. Earlier
>>> releases in the 2.6 series may not be depending on what 3.x features you
>>> use.
>>>
>>> If you'd prefer to continue the troubleshooting in the bug tracker, file
>>> a bug.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> John Ralls
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Apr 8, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Just a coupe of questions,
>>> >
>>> > 1.  Once the working file (xml) is saved by 3.5, does it remain
>>> backward compatible with 2.6.21 in case I want to downgrade?
>>> >
>>> > 2.  Should I log this bug in bugzilla?
>>> >
>>> > Kind regards,
>>> >
>>> > Greg Feneis
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 7:27 AM Greg Feneis  wrote:
>>> > Hi John,
>>> >
>>> > Sorry I missed this yesterday.  The language is English (United
>>> States), The Location is United States. The current language for
>>> non-Unicode programs is English (United States)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Kind regards,
>>> >
>>> > Greg Feneis
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 4:33 PM John Ralls  wrote:
>>> > Indeed. I just tried C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash. No problem.
>>> >
>>> > What are your Language and Region settings? Have you set LANG and
>>> LANGUAGES in C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\etc\gnucash\environment? Is
>>> your userid an Administrator?
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> > John Ralls
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > On Apr 7, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > John,
>>> > >
>>> > > I misread your instructions and only attempted to save outside of
>>> the Dropbox folder, but not in my ...\Users\Greg\... folder, so I tried
>>> this path and file name:
>>> > > C:\Xobpord\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official
>>> Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (117 chars, outside of
>>> Dropbox, Failure!)
>>> > > The error message reads:
>>> > > "You attempted to save in
>>> H[gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or a subdirectory thereof.
>>> This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that directory for internal
>>> usePlease try again in a different directory. (close).
>>> > >
>>> > > Then I read your email again before starting a reply and realized
>>> you spec'd the home directory, so I tried the following path and file name:
>>> > > C:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>>> Files\Official Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (128
>>> chars, outside of Dropbox, inside user folder, success!)
>>> > >
>>> > > So, appears with 3.5 I can only have a generous path while saving
>>> within the windows user folder?
>>> > >
>>> > > Things are getting curiouser
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Kind regards,¯¯
>>> > > Greg
>>> > >
>>> > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 1:46 PM John Ralls 
>>> wrote:
>>> > > Just to completely rule out Dropbox being somehow involved, could
>>> you create the same hierarchy in your home directory, i.e.
>>> c:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\Gnucash Files\
>>> > >
>>> > > I was able to successfully save
>>> > > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash
>>> > > and its log file
>>> > > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash.20190407134124.log
>>> > >
>>> > > Regards,
>>> > > John Ralls
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > > On Apr 7, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Greg Feneis 
>>> wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Some more testing on the issue where 3.5 seems to want a shorter
>>> path than 2.6.x did:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Just now, I exited Dropbox to see if that had something to do with
>>> it, but pretty much the same error for all three path variations, what
>>> worked historically with 2.6.x, no ampersand but some folder names used
>>> spaces, and no ampersand + no spaces.  It seemed purely to do with length,
>>> but it doesn't seem to be about total characters.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > With Dropbox back on, here are some more tests:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash   (52 chars)
>>> 

Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Greg Feneis]

Well, I upgraded to "Rebuild of the GnuCash 3.5 Windows Bundle", but
GnuCash still gives me the strange error when I try to save to the usual
location where I've saved in the past successfully with 2.6.x.

Kind regards,

Greg Feneis




On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 12:42 PM Greg Feneis  wrote:

> So far, nobody seems to be able to repeat this issue, so we haven't ruled
> out that it's a failure of my computer that's causing this.  So it's
> probably not worth adding to the bug tracker.
>
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Greg Feneis 
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 8:10 PM John Ralls  wrote:
>
>> Greg,
>>
>> 2.6.21 and 3.x are supposed to be fully file-compatible. Earlier releases
>> in the 2.6 series may not be depending on what 3.x features you use.
>>
>> If you'd prefer to continue the troubleshooting in the bug tracker, file
>> a bug.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 8, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
>> >
>> > Just a coupe of questions,
>> >
>> > 1.  Once the working file (xml) is saved by 3.5, does it remain
>> backward compatible with 2.6.21 in case I want to downgrade?
>> >
>> > 2.  Should I log this bug in bugzilla?
>> >
>> > Kind regards,
>> >
>> > Greg Feneis
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 7:27 AM Greg Feneis  wrote:
>> > Hi John,
>> >
>> > Sorry I missed this yesterday.  The language is English (United
>> States), The Location is United States. The current language for
>> non-Unicode programs is English (United States)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Kind regards,
>> >
>> > Greg Feneis
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 4:33 PM John Ralls  wrote:
>> > Indeed. I just tried C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash. No problem.
>> >
>> > What are your Language and Region settings? Have you set LANG and
>> LANGUAGES in C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\etc\gnucash\environment? Is
>> your userid an Administrator?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > John Ralls
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Apr 7, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > John,
>> > >
>> > > I misread your instructions and only attempted to save outside of the
>> Dropbox folder, but not in my ...\Users\Greg\... folder, so I tried this
>> path and file name:
>> > > C:\Xobpord\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official
>> Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (117 chars, outside of
>> Dropbox, Failure!)
>> > > The error message reads:
>> > > "You attempted to save in
>> H[gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or a subdirectory thereof.
>> This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that directory for internal
>> usePlease try again in a different directory. (close).
>> > >
>> > > Then I read your email again before starting a reply and realized you
>> spec'd the home directory, so I tried the following path and file name:
>> > > C:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>> Files\Official Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (128
>> chars, outside of Dropbox, inside user folder, success!)
>> > >
>> > > So, appears with 3.5 I can only have a generous path while saving
>> within the windows user folder?
>> > >
>> > > Things are getting curiouser
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Kind regards,¯¯
>> > > Greg
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 1:46 PM John Ralls  wrote:
>> > > Just to completely rule out Dropbox being somehow involved, could you
>> create the same hierarchy in your home directory, i.e.
>> c:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\Gnucash Files\
>> > >
>> > > I was able to successfully save
>> > > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash
>> > > and its log file
>> > > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash.20190407134124.log
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > John Ralls
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > On Apr 7, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Some more testing on the issue where 3.5 seems to want a shorter
>> path than 2.6.x did:
>> > > >
>> > > > Just now, I exited Dropbox to see if that had something to do with
>> it, but pretty much the same error for all three path variations, what
>> worked historically with 2.6.x, no ampersand but some folder names used
>> spaces, and no ampersand + no spaces.  It seemed purely to do with length,
>> but it doesn't seem to be about total characters.
>> > > >
>> > > > With Dropbox back on, here are some more tests:
>> > > >
>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash   (52 chars)
>> Success!
>> > > >
>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\GnuCashFiles\test.gnucash
>> (65 chars) Failure!
>> > > >
>> > > > So I shortened the name of the last folder from GnuCashFiles down
>> to G and still got the same problem
>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\G\test.gnucash  (54 chars)
>> Failure!
>> > > >
>> > > > So I shortened the name of 

Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Greg Feneis]

So far, nobody seems to be able to repeat this issue, so we haven't ruled
out that it's a failure of my computer that's causing this.  So it's
probably not worth adding to the bug tracker.




Kind regards,

Greg Feneis 




On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 8:10 PM John Ralls  wrote:

> Greg,
>
> 2.6.21 and 3.x are supposed to be fully file-compatible. Earlier releases
> in the 2.6 series may not be depending on what 3.x features you use.
>
> If you'd prefer to continue the troubleshooting in the bug tracker, file a
> bug.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
> > On Apr 8, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >
> > Just a coupe of questions,
> >
> > 1.  Once the working file (xml) is saved by 3.5, does it remain backward
> compatible with 2.6.21 in case I want to downgrade?
> >
> > 2.  Should I log this bug in bugzilla?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Greg Feneis
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 7:27 AM Greg Feneis  wrote:
> > Hi John,
> >
> > Sorry I missed this yesterday.  The language is English (United States),
> The Location is United States. The current language for non-Unicode
> programs is English (United States)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Greg Feneis
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 4:33 PM John Ralls  wrote:
> > Indeed. I just tried C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash. No problem.
> >
> > What are your Language and Region settings? Have you set LANG and
> LANGUAGES in C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\etc\gnucash\environment? Is
> your userid an Administrator?
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
> >
> >
> > > On Apr 7, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> > >
> > > John,
> > >
> > > I misread your instructions and only attempted to save outside of the
> Dropbox folder, but not in my ...\Users\Greg\... folder, so I tried this
> path and file name:
> > > C:\Xobpord\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official
> Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (117 chars, outside of
> Dropbox, Failure!)
> > > The error message reads:
> > > "You attempted to save in
> H[gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or a subdirectory thereof.
> This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that directory for internal
> usePlease try again in a different directory. (close).
> > >
> > > Then I read your email again before starting a reply and realized you
> spec'd the home directory, so I tried the following path and file name:
> > > C:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> Files\Official Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (128
> chars, outside of Dropbox, inside user folder, success!)
> > >
> > > So, appears with 3.5 I can only have a generous path while saving
> within the windows user folder?
> > >
> > > Things are getting curiouser
> > >
> > >
> > > Kind regards,¯¯
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 1:46 PM John Ralls  wrote:
> > > Just to completely rule out Dropbox being somehow involved, could you
> create the same hierarchy in your home directory, i.e.
> c:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\Gnucash Files\
> > >
> > > I was able to successfully save
> > > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash
> > > and its log file
> > > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash.20190407134124.log
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > John Ralls
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Apr 7, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Some more testing on the issue where 3.5 seems to want a shorter
> path than 2.6.x did:
> > > >
> > > > Just now, I exited Dropbox to see if that had something to do with
> it, but pretty much the same error for all three path variations, what
> worked historically with 2.6.x, no ampersand but some folder names used
> spaces, and no ampersand + no spaces.  It seemed purely to do with length,
> but it doesn't seem to be about total characters.
> > > >
> > > > With Dropbox back on, here are some more tests:
> > > >
> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash   (52 chars)
> Success!
> > > >
> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\GnuCashFiles\test.gnucash
> (65 chars) Failure!
> > > >
> > > > So I shortened the name of the last folder from GnuCashFiles down to
> G and still got the same problem
> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\G\test.gnucash  (54 chars)
> Failure!
> > > >
> > > > So I shortened the name of the previous folder from GnuCash down to
> GnuCa, and it also failed even though it was 52 chars, the character count
> that seemed to work previously.  Also the error message for this is
> slightly different.
> > > > "You attempted to save in
> [gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or a subdirectory thereof.
> This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that directory for internal
> usePlease try again in a different 

Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[John Ralls]

Greg,

2.6.21 and 3.x are supposed to be fully file-compatible. Earlier releases in 
the 2.6 series may not be depending on what 3.x features you use.

If you'd prefer to continue the troubleshooting in the bug tracker, file a bug.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Apr 8, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> 
> Just a coupe of questions,
> 
> 1.  Once the working file (xml) is saved by 3.5, does it remain backward 
> compatible with 2.6.21 in case I want to downgrade?
> 
> 2.  Should I log this bug in bugzilla?  
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Greg Feneis
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 7:27 AM Greg Feneis  wrote:
> Hi John,
> 
> Sorry I missed this yesterday.  The language is English (United States), The 
> Location is United States. The current language for non-Unicode programs is 
> English (United States)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Greg Feneis
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 4:33 PM John Ralls  wrote:
> Indeed. I just tried C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash 
> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash. No problem.
> 
> What are your Language and Region settings? Have you set LANG and LANGUAGES 
> in C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\etc\gnucash\environment? Is your userid an 
> Administrator?
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> 
> > On Apr 7, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> > 
> > John,
> > 
> > I misread your instructions and only attempted to save outside of the 
> > Dropbox folder, but not in my ...\Users\Greg\... folder, so I tried this 
> > path and file name:
> > C:\Xobpord\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official Working 
> > File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (117 chars, outside of 
> > Dropbox, Failure!)
> > The error message reads:
> > "You attempted to save in H[gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash 
> > or a subdirectory thereof. This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that 
> > directory for internal usePlease try again in a different directory. 
> > (close).
> > 
> > Then I read your email again before starting a reply and realized you 
> > spec'd the home directory, so I tried the following path and file name:
> > C:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official 
> > Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (128 chars, outside of 
> > Dropbox, inside user folder, success!)
> > 
> > So, appears with 3.5 I can only have a generous path while saving within 
> > the windows user folder? 
> > 
> > Things are getting curiouser
> > 
> > 
> > Kind regards,¯¯
> > Greg
> > 
> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 1:46 PM John Ralls  wrote:
> > Just to completely rule out Dropbox being somehow involved, could you 
> > create the same hierarchy in your home directory, i.e. 
> > c:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\Gnucash Files\
> > 
> > I was able to successfully save
> > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash 
> > Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash
> > and its log file 
> > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash 
> > Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash.20190407134124.log
> > 
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
> > 
> > 
> > > On Apr 7, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Some more testing on the issue where 3.5 seems to want a shorter path 
> > > than 2.6.x did:
> > > 
> > > Just now, I exited Dropbox to see if that had something to do with it, 
> > > but pretty much the same error for all three path variations, what worked 
> > > historically with 2.6.x, no ampersand but some folder names used spaces, 
> > > and no ampersand + no spaces.  It seemed purely to do with length, but it 
> > > doesn't seem to be about total characters.
> > > 
> > > With Dropbox back on, here are some more tests:
> > > 
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash   (52 chars) Success!
> > > 
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\GnuCashFiles\test.gnucash  (65 
> > > chars) Failure!
> > > 
> > > So I shortened the name of the last folder from GnuCashFiles down to G 
> > > and still got the same problem
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\G\test.gnucash  (54 chars) 
> > > Failure!
> > > 
> > > So I shortened the name of the previous folder from GnuCash down to 
> > > GnuCa, and it also failed even though it was 52 chars, the character 
> > > count that seemed to work previously.  Also the error message for this is 
> > > slightly different.
> > > "You attempted to save in [gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash 
> > > or a subdirectory thereof. This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that 
> > > directory for internal usePlease try again in a different directory. 
> > > (close)."  See screen shot here 
> > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/pa3gdy6c2w21x6u/2019-04-07_9-30-31.jpg?dl=0
> > > This was the actual attempted path:
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCa\G\test.gnucash   (52 chars) 
> > > Failure! although same char count
> > > 
> > > More testing:
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\G\test.gnucash 

Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Greg Feneis]

Just a coupe of questions,

1.  Once the working file (xml) is saved by 3.5, does it remain backward
compatible with 2.6.21 in case I want to downgrade?

2.  Should I log this bug in bugzilla?

Kind regards,

Greg Feneis




On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 7:27 AM Greg Feneis  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Sorry I missed this yesterday.  The language is English (United States),
> The Location is United States. The current language for non-Unicode
> programs is English (United States)
>
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Greg Feneis 
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 4:33 PM John Ralls  wrote:
>
>> Indeed. I just tried C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash. No problem.
>>
>> What are your Language and Region settings? Have you set LANG and
>> LANGUAGES in C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\etc\gnucash\environment? Is
>> your userid an Administrator?
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 7, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
>> >
>> > John,
>> >
>> > I misread your instructions and only attempted to save outside of the
>> Dropbox folder, but not in my ...\Users\Greg\... folder, so I tried this
>> path and file name:
>> > C:\Xobpord\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official
>> Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (117 chars, outside of
>> Dropbox, Failure!)
>> > The error message reads:
>> > "You attempted to save in
>> H[gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or a subdirectory thereof.
>> This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that directory for internal
>> usePlease try again in a different directory. (close).
>> >
>> > Then I read your email again before starting a reply and realized you
>> spec'd the home directory, so I tried the following path and file name:
>> > C:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>> Files\Official Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (128
>> chars, outside of Dropbox, inside user folder, success!)
>> >
>> > So, appears with 3.5 I can only have a generous path while saving
>> within the windows user folder?
>> >
>> > Things are getting curiouser
>> >
>> >
>> > Kind regards,¯¯
>> > Greg
>> >
>> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 1:46 PM John Ralls  wrote:
>> > Just to completely rule out Dropbox being somehow involved, could you
>> create the same hierarchy in your home directory, i.e.
>> c:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\Gnucash Files\
>> >
>> > I was able to successfully save
>> > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash
>> > and its log file
>> > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash.20190407134124.log
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > John Ralls
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Apr 7, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Some more testing on the issue where 3.5 seems to want a shorter path
>> than 2.6.x did:
>> > >
>> > > Just now, I exited Dropbox to see if that had something to do with
>> it, but pretty much the same error for all three path variations, what
>> worked historically with 2.6.x, no ampersand but some folder names used
>> spaces, and no ampersand + no spaces.  It seemed purely to do with length,
>> but it doesn't seem to be about total characters.
>> > >
>> > > With Dropbox back on, here are some more tests:
>> > >
>> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash   (52 chars)
>> Success!
>> > >
>> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\GnuCashFiles\test.gnucash
>> (65 chars) Failure!
>> > >
>> > > So I shortened the name of the last folder from GnuCashFiles down to
>> G and still got the same problem
>> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\G\test.gnucash  (54 chars)
>> Failure!
>> > >
>> > > So I shortened the name of the previous folder from GnuCash down to
>> GnuCa, and it also failed even though it was 52 chars, the character count
>> that seemed to work previously.  Also the error message for this is
>> slightly different.
>> > > "You attempted to save in
>> [gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or a subdirectory thereof.
>> This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that directory for internal
>> usePlease try again in a different directory. (close)."  See screen
>> shot here
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pa3gdy6c2w21x6u/2019-04-07_9-30-31.jpg?dl=0
>> > > This was the actual attempted path:
>> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCa\G\test.gnucash   (52 chars)
>> Failure! although same char count
>> > >
>> > > More testing:
>> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\G\test.gnucash   (48 chars)
>> Failure!
>> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCand\G\G\test.gnucash (47 chars) Failure!
>> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCan\G\G\test.gnucash (46 chars) Success!
>> > >
>> > > If I reduce the number of folders in the path, does the max character
>> count go up?
>> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\test.gnucash   (46 chars) Success!

Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Greg Feneis]

Hi John,

Sorry I missed this yesterday.  The language is English (United States),
The Location is United States. The current language for non-Unicode
programs is English (United States)




Kind regards,

Greg Feneis 




On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 4:33 PM John Ralls  wrote:

> Indeed. I just tried C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash. No problem.
>
> What are your Language and Region settings? Have you set LANG and
> LANGUAGES in C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\etc\gnucash\environment? Is
> your userid an Administrator?
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
> > On Apr 7, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >
> > John,
> >
> > I misread your instructions and only attempted to save outside of the
> Dropbox folder, but not in my ...\Users\Greg\... folder, so I tried this
> path and file name:
> > C:\Xobpord\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official Working
> File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (117 chars, outside of
> Dropbox, Failure!)
> > The error message reads:
> > "You attempted to save in
> H[gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or a subdirectory thereof.
> This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that directory for internal
> usePlease try again in a different directory. (close).
> >
> > Then I read your email again before starting a reply and realized you
> spec'd the home directory, so I tried the following path and file name:
> > C:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> Files\Official Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (128
> chars, outside of Dropbox, inside user folder, success!)
> >
> > So, appears with 3.5 I can only have a generous path while saving within
> the windows user folder?
> >
> > Things are getting curiouser
> >
> >
> > Kind regards,¯¯
> > Greg
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 1:46 PM John Ralls  wrote:
> > Just to completely rule out Dropbox being somehow involved, could you
> create the same hierarchy in your home directory, i.e.
> c:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\Gnucash Files\
> >
> > I was able to successfully save
> > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash
> > and its log file
> > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash.20190407134124.log
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
> >
> >
> > > On Apr 7, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> > >
> > > Some more testing on the issue where 3.5 seems to want a shorter path
> than 2.6.x did:
> > >
> > > Just now, I exited Dropbox to see if that had something to do with it,
> but pretty much the same error for all three path variations, what worked
> historically with 2.6.x, no ampersand but some folder names used spaces,
> and no ampersand + no spaces.  It seemed purely to do with length, but it
> doesn't seem to be about total characters.
> > >
> > > With Dropbox back on, here are some more tests:
> > >
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash   (52 chars)
> Success!
> > >
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\GnuCashFiles\test.gnucash  (65
> chars) Failure!
> > >
> > > So I shortened the name of the last folder from GnuCashFiles down to G
> and still got the same problem
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\G\test.gnucash  (54 chars)
> Failure!
> > >
> > > So I shortened the name of the previous folder from GnuCash down to
> GnuCa, and it also failed even though it was 52 chars, the character count
> that seemed to work previously.  Also the error message for this is
> slightly different.
> > > "You attempted to save in
> [gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or a subdirectory thereof.
> This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that directory for internal
> usePlease try again in a different directory. (close)."  See screen
> shot here
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pa3gdy6c2w21x6u/2019-04-07_9-30-31.jpg?dl=0
> > > This was the actual attempted path:
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCa\G\test.gnucash   (52 chars)
> Failure! although same char count
> > >
> > > More testing:
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\G\test.gnucash   (48 chars)  Failure!
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCand\G\G\test.gnucash (47 chars) Failure!
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCan\G\G\test.gnucash (46 chars) Success!
> > >
> > > If I reduce the number of folders in the path, does the max character
> count go up?
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\test.gnucash   (46 chars) Success!
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\Gnu\test.gnucash (48 chars) Success!
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash (52 chars)
> Success!  (confirming results from beginning of this email)
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPath\test.gnucash (66
> chars) Success!
> > >
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
> (83 chars) 

Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Geert Janssens]

Op maandag 8 april 2019 01:04:39 CEST schreef Greg Feneis:
> John,
> 
> I misread your instructions and only attempted to save outside of the
> Dropbox folder, but not in my ...\Users\Greg\... folder, so I tried this
> path and file name:
> C:\Xobpord\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official Working
> File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (117 chars, outside of
> Dropbox, Failure!)
> The error message reads:
> "You attempted to save in H[gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash
> or a subdirectory thereof. This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that
> directory for internal usePlease try again in a different directory.
> (close).
> 
It's suspicious the error message suggests you're saving in a subdirectory of 
what gnucash understands as your GNC_DATA_HOME directory. So something odd is 
going on here. And probably the "giggerish" in there is a clue.


> Then I read your email again before starting a reply and realized you
> spec'd the home directory, so I tried the following path and file name:
> C:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official
> Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (128 chars, outside of
> Dropbox, inside user folder, success!)
> 
> So, appears with 3.5 I can only have a generous path while saving within
> the windows user folder?

Regards,

Geert


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Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Greg Feneis]

Hi, Jack,

In this case the issue is on Win 7-64 computer, and it appears I can only
have a generous path length if I save within the windows' user folder.
Otherwise I get an error message that claims I'm saving in a location where
I'm not and that the location is reserved.
Kind regards, Greg Feneis
(Galaxy S7)


On Sun, Apr 7, 2019, 16:16 Jack Lockard  wrote:

> I found the following info on Dropbox and Windows 10:
>
> The Dropbox app for Windows 10 allows you to access your files, but it
> doesn't allow you to sync them to your PC. For Dropbox syncing you'll need
> to install the desktop sync app first. If you have not installed the sync
> app then all that is stored locally is a link to the cloud storage URL
> which could be quite large. Perhaps that is where the issue lies.
>
> David mentioned in another email that on his MAC the fully qualified
> path/filename was quite large with a bunch of repeating "../" in it.
>
> Jack
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gnucash-user 
> On Behalf Of Greg Feneis
> Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 7:05 PM
> To: John Ralls 
> Cc: Gnucash Users 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21
>
> John,
>
> I misread your instructions and only attempted to save outside of the
> Dropbox folder, but not in my ...\Users\Greg\... folder, so I tried this
> path and file name:
> C:\Xobpord\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official Working
> File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (117 chars, outside of
> Dropbox, Failure!) The error message reads:
> "You attempted to save in H[gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash
> or a subdirectory thereof. This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that
> directory for internal usePlease try again in a different directory.
> (close).
>
> Then I read your email again before starting a reply and realized you
> spec'd the home directory, so I tried the following path and file name:
> C:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> Files\Official Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (128
> chars, outside of Dropbox, inside user folder, success!)
>
> So, appears with 3.5 I can only have a generous path while saving within
> the windows user folder?
>
> Things are getting curiouser
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Greg
>
> On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 1:46 PM John Ralls  wrote:
>
> > Just to completely rule out Dropbox being somehow involved, could you
> > create the same hierarchy in your home directory, i.e.
> > c:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\Gnucash Files\
> >
> > I was able to successfully save
> > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> > Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash
> > and its log file
> > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> > Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash.20190407134124.log
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
> >
> >
> > > On Apr 7, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> > >
> > > Some more testing on the issue where 3.5 seems to want a shorter
> > > path
> > than 2.6.x did:
> > >
> > > Just now, I exited Dropbox to see if that had something to do with
> > > it,
> > but pretty much the same error for all three path variations, what
> > worked historically with 2.6.x, no ampersand but some folder names
> > used spaces, and no ampersand + no spaces.  It seemed purely to do
> > with length, but it doesn't seem to be about total characters.
> > >
> > > With Dropbox back on, here are some more tests:
> > >
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash   (52 chars)
> > Success!
> > >
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\GnuCashFiles\test.gnucash
> > > (65
> > chars) Failure!
> > >
> > > So I shortened the name of the last folder from GnuCashFiles down to
> > > G
> > and still got the same problem
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\G\test.gnucash  (54 chars)
> > Failure!
> > >
> > > So I shortened the name of the previous folder from GnuCash down to
> > GnuCa, and it also failed even though it was 52 chars, the character
> > count that seemed to work previously.  Also the error message for this
> > is slightly different.
> > > "You attempted to save in
> > > [gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash
> > or a subdirectory thereof. This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves
> > that directory for internal usePlease try again in a different
> directory.
> > (close)."  See screen shot here
>

Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[John Ralls]

Indeed. I just tried C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash 
Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash. No problem.

What are your Language and Region settings? Have you set LANG and LANGUAGES in 
C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\etc\gnucash\environment? Is your userid an 
Administrator?

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Apr 7, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> I misread your instructions and only attempted to save outside of the Dropbox 
> folder, but not in my ...\Users\Greg\... folder, so I tried this path and 
> file name:
> C:\Xobpord\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official Working File 
> After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (117 chars, outside of Dropbox, 
> Failure!)
> The error message reads:
> "You attempted to save in H[gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or 
> a subdirectory thereof. This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that 
> directory for internal usePlease try again in a different directory. 
> (close).
> 
> Then I read your email again before starting a reply and realized you spec'd 
> the home directory, so I tried the following path and file name:
> C:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official 
> Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (128 chars, outside of 
> Dropbox, inside user folder, success!)
> 
> So, appears with 3.5 I can only have a generous path while saving within the 
> windows user folder? 
> 
> Things are getting curiouser
> 
> 
> Kind regards,¯¯
> Greg
> 
> On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 1:46 PM John Ralls  wrote:
> Just to completely rule out Dropbox being somehow involved, could you create 
> the same hierarchy in your home directory, i.e. c:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My 
> Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\Gnucash Files\
> 
> I was able to successfully save
> C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash 
> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash
> and its log file 
> C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash 
> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash.20190407134124.log
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> 
> > On Apr 7, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> > 
> > Some more testing on the issue where 3.5 seems to want a shorter path than 
> > 2.6.x did:
> > 
> > Just now, I exited Dropbox to see if that had something to do with it, but 
> > pretty much the same error for all three path variations, what worked 
> > historically with 2.6.x, no ampersand but some folder names used spaces, 
> > and no ampersand + no spaces.  It seemed purely to do with length, but it 
> > doesn't seem to be about total characters.
> > 
> > With Dropbox back on, here are some more tests:
> > 
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash   (52 chars) Success!
> > 
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\GnuCashFiles\test.gnucash  (65 
> > chars) Failure!
> > 
> > So I shortened the name of the last folder from GnuCashFiles down to G and 
> > still got the same problem
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\G\test.gnucash  (54 chars) Failure!
> > 
> > So I shortened the name of the previous folder from GnuCash down to GnuCa, 
> > and it also failed even though it was 52 chars, the character count that 
> > seemed to work previously.  Also the error message for this is slightly 
> > different.
> > "You attempted to save in [gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or 
> > a subdirectory thereof. This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that 
> > directory for internal usePlease try again in a different directory. 
> > (close)."  See screen shot here 
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/pa3gdy6c2w21x6u/2019-04-07_9-30-31.jpg?dl=0
> > This was the actual attempted path:
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCa\G\test.gnucash   (52 chars) Failure! 
> > although same char count
> > 
> > More testing:
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\G\test.gnucash   (48 chars)  Failure!
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCand\G\G\test.gnucash (47 chars) Failure!
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCan\G\G\test.gnucash (46 chars) Success!
> > 
> > If I reduce the number of folders in the path, does the max character count 
> > go up?
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\test.gnucash   (46 chars) Success!
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\Gnu\test.gnucash (48 chars) Success!
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash (52 chars) Success!  
> > (confirming results from beginning of this email)
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPath\test.gnucash (66 
> > chars) Success!  
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
> >  (83 chars) Success!
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
> >  (100 chars) Success!
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandDTestEvenLongerPathEvenLongerPathSuperLongPath\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
> >  (145 chars) Success!
> > 
> > I'm not going to test to failure on this 

Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Jack Lockard]

I found the following info on Dropbox and Windows 10:

The Dropbox app for Windows 10 allows you to access your files, but it doesn't 
allow you to sync them to your PC. For Dropbox syncing you'll need to install 
the desktop sync app first. If you have not installed the sync app then all 
that is stored locally is a link to the cloud storage URL which could be quite 
large. Perhaps that is where the issue lies.

David mentioned in another email that on his MAC the fully qualified 
path/filename was quite large with a bunch of repeating "../" in it.

Jack


-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user  On 
Behalf Of Greg Feneis
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 7:05 PM
To: John Ralls 
Cc: Gnucash Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

John,

I misread your instructions and only attempted to save outside of the Dropbox 
folder, but not in my ...\Users\Greg\... folder, so I tried this path and file 
name:
C:\Xobpord\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official Working File 
After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (117 chars, outside of Dropbox, 
Failure!) The error message reads:
"You attempted to save in H[gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash
or a subdirectory thereof. This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that 
directory for internal usePlease try again in a different directory.
(close).

Then I read your email again before starting a reply and realized you spec'd 
the home directory, so I tried the following path and file name:
C:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official 
Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (128 chars, outside of 
Dropbox, inside user folder, success!)

So, appears with 3.5 I can only have a generous path while saving within the 
windows user folder?

Things are getting curiouser


Kind regards,
Greg

On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 1:46 PM John Ralls  wrote:

> Just to completely rule out Dropbox being somehow involved, could you 
> create the same hierarchy in your home directory, i.e.
> c:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\Gnucash Files\
>
> I was able to successfully save
> C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash 
> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash
> and its log file
> C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash 
> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash.20190407134124.log
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
> > On Apr 7, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >
> > Some more testing on the issue where 3.5 seems to want a shorter 
> > path
> than 2.6.x did:
> >
> > Just now, I exited Dropbox to see if that had something to do with 
> > it,
> but pretty much the same error for all three path variations, what 
> worked historically with 2.6.x, no ampersand but some folder names 
> used spaces, and no ampersand + no spaces.  It seemed purely to do 
> with length, but it doesn't seem to be about total characters.
> >
> > With Dropbox back on, here are some more tests:
> >
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash   (52 chars)
> Success!
> >
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\GnuCashFiles\test.gnucash  
> > (65
> chars) Failure!
> >
> > So I shortened the name of the last folder from GnuCashFiles down to 
> > G
> and still got the same problem
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\G\test.gnucash  (54 chars)
> Failure!
> >
> > So I shortened the name of the previous folder from GnuCash down to
> GnuCa, and it also failed even though it was 52 chars, the character 
> count that seemed to work previously.  Also the error message for this 
> is slightly different.
> > "You attempted to save in 
> > [gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash
> or a subdirectory thereof. This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves 
> that directory for internal usePlease try again in a different directory.
> (close)."  See screen shot here
> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> dropbox.com%2Fs%2Fpa3gdy6c2w21x6u%2F2019-04-07_9-30-31.jpg%3Fdl%3D0
> p;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb3676aae59bd4533c26d08d6bbae694b%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
> fb435%7C1%7C0%7C636902755094184347sdata=5U8OehuMo7h%2
> BbJnENplg2CYDoRCrT7N4FJz9nZh0ff8%3Dreserved=0
> > This was the actual attempted path:
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCa\G\test.gnucash   (52 chars)
> Failure! although same char count
> >
> > More testing:
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\G\test.gnucash   (48 chars)  Failure!
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCand\G\G\test.gnucash (47 chars) Failure!
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCan\G\G\test.gnucash (46 chars) Success!
> >
> > If I reduce the number of folders in the path, d

Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Greg Feneis]

John,

I misread your instructions and only attempted to save outside of the
Dropbox folder, but not in my ...\Users\Greg\... folder, so I tried this
path and file name:
C:\Xobpord\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official Working
File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (117 chars, outside of
Dropbox, Failure!)
The error message reads:
"You attempted to save in H[gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash
or a subdirectory thereof. This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that
directory for internal usePlease try again in a different directory.
(close).

Then I read your email again before starting a reply and realized you
spec'd the home directory, so I tried the following path and file name:
C:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official
Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (128 chars, outside of
Dropbox, inside user folder, success!)

So, appears with 3.5 I can only have a generous path while saving within
the windows user folder?

Things are getting curiouser


Kind regards,
Greg

On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 1:46 PM John Ralls  wrote:

> Just to completely rule out Dropbox being somehow involved, could you
> create the same hierarchy in your home directory, i.e.
> c:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\Gnucash Files\
>
> I was able to successfully save
> C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash
> and its log file
> C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash.20190407134124.log
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
> > On Apr 7, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >
> > Some more testing on the issue where 3.5 seems to want a shorter path
> than 2.6.x did:
> >
> > Just now, I exited Dropbox to see if that had something to do with it,
> but pretty much the same error for all three path variations, what worked
> historically with 2.6.x, no ampersand but some folder names used spaces,
> and no ampersand + no spaces.  It seemed purely to do with length, but it
> doesn't seem to be about total characters.
> >
> > With Dropbox back on, here are some more tests:
> >
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash   (52 chars)
> Success!
> >
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\GnuCashFiles\test.gnucash  (65
> chars) Failure!
> >
> > So I shortened the name of the last folder from GnuCashFiles down to G
> and still got the same problem
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\G\test.gnucash  (54 chars)
> Failure!
> >
> > So I shortened the name of the previous folder from GnuCash down to
> GnuCa, and it also failed even though it was 52 chars, the character count
> that seemed to work previously.  Also the error message for this is
> slightly different.
> > "You attempted to save in [gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash
> or a subdirectory thereof. This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that
> directory for internal usePlease try again in a different directory.
> (close)."  See screen shot here
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pa3gdy6c2w21x6u/2019-04-07_9-30-31.jpg?dl=0
> > This was the actual attempted path:
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCa\G\test.gnucash   (52 chars)
> Failure! although same char count
> >
> > More testing:
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\G\test.gnucash   (48 chars)  Failure!
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCand\G\G\test.gnucash (47 chars) Failure!
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCan\G\G\test.gnucash (46 chars) Success!
> >
> > If I reduce the number of folders in the path, does the max character
> count go up?
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\test.gnucash   (46 chars) Success!
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\Gnu\test.gnucash (48 chars) Success!
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash (52 chars)
> Success!  (confirming results from beginning of this email)
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPath\test.gnucash (66
> chars) Success!
> >
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
> (83 chars) Success!
> >
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
> (100 chars) Success!
> >
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandDTestEvenLongerPathEvenLongerPathSuperLongPath\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
> (145 chars) Success!
> >
> > I'm not going to test to failure on this folder count, but it sure looks
> like something about GnuCash 3.5 limits the path based on folder count and
> path character count.  If I use a 5 folder path, max path character count
> is 46.  If I used a 4 folder path, I've tested up to 145 characters.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 8:32 AM Greg Feneis  wrote:
> > Hi John,
> >
> > The path length issue was with 3.5 on Win 7-64.  Previously used 2.6.x
> to save to the same location without trouble.

Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[John Ralls]

Just to completely rule out Dropbox being somehow involved, could you create 
the same hierarchy in your home directory, i.e. c:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My 
Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\Gnucash Files\

I was able to successfully save
C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash 
Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash
and its log file 
C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash 
Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash.20190407134124.log

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Apr 7, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> 
> Some more testing on the issue where 3.5 seems to want a shorter path than 
> 2.6.x did:
> 
> Just now, I exited Dropbox to see if that had something to do with it, but 
> pretty much the same error for all three path variations, what worked 
> historically with 2.6.x, no ampersand but some folder names used spaces, and 
> no ampersand + no spaces.  It seemed purely to do with length, but it doesn't 
> seem to be about total characters.
> 
> With Dropbox back on, here are some more tests:
> 
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash   (52 chars) Success!
> 
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\GnuCashFiles\test.gnucash  (65 chars) 
> Failure!
> 
> So I shortened the name of the last folder from GnuCashFiles down to G and 
> still got the same problem
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\G\test.gnucash  (54 chars) Failure!
> 
> So I shortened the name of the previous folder from GnuCash down to GnuCa, 
> and it also failed even though it was 52 chars, the character count that 
> seemed to work previously.  Also the error message for this is slightly 
> different.
> "You attempted to save in [gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or a 
> subdirectory thereof. This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that directory 
> for internal usePlease try again in a different directory. (close)."  See 
> screen shot here 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pa3gdy6c2w21x6u/2019-04-07_9-30-31.jpg?dl=0
> This was the actual attempted path:
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCa\G\test.gnucash   (52 chars) Failure! 
> although same char count
> 
> More testing:
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\G\test.gnucash   (48 chars)  Failure!
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCand\G\G\test.gnucash (47 chars) Failure!
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCan\G\G\test.gnucash (46 chars) Success!
> 
> If I reduce the number of folders in the path, does the max character count 
> go up?
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\test.gnucash   (46 chars) Success!
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\Gnu\test.gnucash (48 chars) Success!
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash (52 chars) Success!  
> (confirming results from beginning of this email)
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPath\test.gnucash (66 chars) 
> Success!  
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
>  (83 chars) Success!
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
>  (100 chars) Success!
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandDTestEvenLongerPathEvenLongerPathSuperLongPath\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
>  (145 chars) Success!
> 
> I'm not going to test to failure on this folder count, but it sure looks like 
> something about GnuCash 3.5 limits the path based on folder count and path 
> character count.  If I use a 5 folder path, max path character count is 46.  
> If I used a 4 folder path, I've tested up to 145 characters.  
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 8:32 AM Greg Feneis  wrote:
> Hi John,
> 
> The path length issue was with 3.5 on Win 7-64.  Previously used 2.6.x to 
> save to the same location without trouble.
> 
> The path that 3.5 failed to write to is:
> 
> C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash 
> Files\(VerboseFileNameProbably30chars.gnucash)
> 
> The last successful saves to this directory was by GnuCash 2.6.21, and was:
> 
> C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash 
> Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash.20190401075914.log  (4/1/2019 
> 8:01AM)
> 
> C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash 
> Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash (4/1/2019 7:59AM)
> 
> Since I suspected it was a path length issue, I tried saving the file name 
> test.gnucash in the same location, but got the same error.  So I went one 
> folder back and tried to save again and it failed the same way.  I kept 
> shortening the path folder by folder like this until it did save, which was 
> as follows:
> 
> C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\test.gnucash
> 
> Next, I copied the original folders so I could make a test path exactly like 
> the path that causes the error, but with no ampersand, and I still get the 
> the same problem.
> 
> C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C and D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\ fails just 
> like   C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\ 

Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[David T. via gnucash-user]

I’m not sure how it works on Windows, but on my Mac, when I attempt to open 
certain files in my Dropbox folder (I am using the DropBox add-in that maps my 
DropBox to a folder in my system), I see a huge character string in the title 
bar, with a long repeating sequence of “../“ 

This doesn’t display in every application, just some. But it may be that what 
appears to you to be a short path name may in fact be much longer, due to 
hidden idiosyncrasies in DropBox.

David

> On Apr 7, 2019, at 11:20 PM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> 
> Some more testing on the issue where 3.5 seems to want a shorter path than
> 2.6.x did:
> 
> Just now, I exited Dropbox to see if that had something to do with it, but
> pretty much the same error for all three path variations, what worked
> historically with 2.6.x, no ampersand but some folder names used spaces,
> and no ampersand + no spaces.  It seemed purely to do with length, but it
> doesn't seem to be about total characters.
> 
> With Dropbox back on, here are some more tests:
> 
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash   (52 chars) Success!
> 
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\GnuCashFiles\test.gnucash  (65
> chars) Failure!
> 
> So I shortened the name of the last folder from GnuCashFiles down to G and
> still got the same problem
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\G\test.gnucash  (54 chars) Failure!
> 
> So I shortened the name of the previous folder from GnuCash down to GnuCa,
> and it also failed even though it was 52 chars, the character count that
> seemed to work previously.  Also the error message for this is slightly
> different.
> "You attempted to save in [gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or
> a subdirectory thereof. This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that
> directory for internal usePlease try again in a different directory.
> (close)."  See screen shot here
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pa3gdy6c2w21x6u/2019-04-07_9-30-31.jpg?dl=0
> This was the actual attempted path:
> 
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCa\G\test.gnucash   (52 chars) Failure!
> although same char count
> 
> 
> More testing:
> 
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\G\test.gnucash   (48 chars)  Failure!
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCand\G\G\test.gnucash (47 chars) Failure!
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCan\G\G\test.gnucash (46 chars) Success!
> 
> 
> If I reduce the number of folders in the path, does the max character count
> go up?
> 
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\test.gnucash   (46 chars) Success!
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\Gnu\test.gnucash (48 chars) Success!
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash (52 chars) Success!
> (confirming results from beginning of this email)
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPath\test.gnucash (66
> chars) Success!
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
> (83 chars) Success!
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
> (100
> chars) Success!
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandDTestEvenLongerPathEvenLongerPathSuperLongPath\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
> (145 chars) Success!
> 
> 
> I'm not going to test to failure on this folder count, but it sure looks
> like something about GnuCash 3.5 limits the path based on folder count and
> path character count.  If I use a 5 folder path, max path character count
> is 46.  If I used a 4 folder path, I've tested up to 145 characters.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 8:32 AM Greg Feneis  wrote:
> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> The path length issue was with 3.5 on Win 7-64.  Previously used 2.6.x to
>> save to the same location without trouble.
>> 
>> The path that 3.5 failed to write to is:
>> 
>> C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>> Files\(VerboseFileNameProbably30chars.gnucash)
>> 
>> 
>> The last successful saves to this directory was by GnuCash 2.6.21, and was:
>> 
>> C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>> Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash.20190401075914.log  (4/1/2019
>> 8:01AM)
>> 
>> C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash 
>> Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash
>> (4/1/2019 7:59AM)
>> 
>> 
>> Since I suspected it was a path length issue, I tried saving the file name
>> test.gnucash in the same location, but got the same error.  So I went one
>> folder back and tried to save again and it failed the same way.  I kept
>> shortening the path folder by folder like this until it did save, which was
>> as follows:
>> 
>> C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\test.gnucash
>> 
>> 
>> Next, I copied the original folders so I could make a test path exactly
>> like the path that causes the error, but with no ampersand, and I still get
>> the the same problem.
>> 
>> C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C and D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\ fails
>> just like   C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash 

Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Greg Feneis]

Some more testing on the issue where 3.5 seems to want a shorter path than
2.6.x did:

Just now, I exited Dropbox to see if that had something to do with it, but
pretty much the same error for all three path variations, what worked
historically with 2.6.x, no ampersand but some folder names used spaces,
and no ampersand + no spaces.  It seemed purely to do with length, but it
doesn't seem to be about total characters.

With Dropbox back on, here are some more tests:

C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash   (52 chars) Success!

C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\GnuCashFiles\test.gnucash  (65
chars) Failure!

So I shortened the name of the last folder from GnuCashFiles down to G and
still got the same problem
C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\G\test.gnucash  (54 chars) Failure!

So I shortened the name of the previous folder from GnuCash down to GnuCa,
and it also failed even though it was 52 chars, the character count that
seemed to work previously.  Also the error message for this is slightly
different.
"You attempted to save in [gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or
a subdirectory thereof. This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that
directory for internal usePlease try again in a different directory.
(close)."  See screen shot here
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pa3gdy6c2w21x6u/2019-04-07_9-30-31.jpg?dl=0
This was the actual attempted path:

C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCa\G\test.gnucash   (52 chars) Failure!
although same char count


More testing:

C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\G\test.gnucash   (48 chars)  Failure!
C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCand\G\G\test.gnucash (47 chars) Failure!
C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCan\G\G\test.gnucash (46 chars) Success!


If I reduce the number of folders in the path, does the max character count
go up?

C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\test.gnucash   (46 chars) Success!
C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\Gnu\test.gnucash (48 chars) Success!
C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash (52 chars) Success!
(confirming results from beginning of this email)
C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPath\test.gnucash (66
chars) Success!
C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
(83 chars) Success!
C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
(100
chars) Success!
C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandDTestEvenLongerPathEvenLongerPathSuperLongPath\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
(145 chars) Success!


I'm not going to test to failure on this folder count, but it sure looks
like something about GnuCash 3.5 limits the path based on folder count and
path character count.  If I use a 5 folder path, max path character count
is 46.  If I used a 4 folder path, I've tested up to 145 characters.

Hope this helps.

Kind regards,

Greg




On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 8:32 AM Greg Feneis  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> The path length issue was with 3.5 on Win 7-64.  Previously used 2.6.x to
> save to the same location without trouble.
>
> The path that 3.5 failed to write to is:
>
> C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> Files\(VerboseFileNameProbably30chars.gnucash)
>
>
> The last successful saves to this directory was by GnuCash 2.6.21, and was:
>
> C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash.20190401075914.log  (4/1/2019
> 8:01AM)
>
> C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash 
> Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash
> (4/1/2019 7:59AM)
>
>
> Since I suspected it was a path length issue, I tried saving the file name
> test.gnucash in the same location, but got the same error.  So I went one
> folder back and tried to save again and it failed the same way.  I kept
> shortening the path folder by folder like this until it did save, which was
> as follows:
>
> C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\test.gnucash
>
>
> Next, I copied the original folders so I could make a test path exactly
> like the path that causes the error, but with no ampersand, and I still get
> the the same problem.
>
> C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C and D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\ fails
> just like   C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\
>
>
> A screen shot of the error
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gd8rlgj1kvv0ysn/2019-04-05_18-37-52.png?dl=0
>
>
> Next, I copied the original folder so I could make a test path exactly
> like the path that causes the error, but with no spaces in the folder names
> and no ampersand, and I still get the same problem.  *However*, this
> time, when gnucash tried to display the path in the error message, it got
> some of it right.
>
> A screen shot of that is here:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3p0agpdlkmzia4/2019-04-05_18-52-26.png?dl=0
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Greg
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:14 PM John Ralls  wrote:
>
>> That's interesting. What is the path that's causing trouble with 3.5, and
>> please remind me what 

Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Greg Feneis]

Sorry about the links, I posted this path length issues previously and so
today I copied from that email and thought the screenshot links would still
work.  Apparently dropbox expired them.

I don't know about the /  VS \.




Kind regards,

Greg Feneis 




On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 8:58 AM Michael Hendry 
wrote:

> > On 7 Apr 2019, at 16:32, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >
> > Hi John,
> >
> > The path length issue was with 3.5 on Win 7-64.  Previously used 2.6.x to
> > save to the same location without trouble.
> >
> > The path that 3.5 failed to write to is:
> >
> > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> > Files\(VerboseFileNameProbably30chars.gnucash)
> >
> >
> > The last successful saves to this directory was by GnuCash 2.6.21, and
> was:
> >
> > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> > Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash.20190401075914.log  (4/1/2019
> > 8:01AM)
> >
> > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> > Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash
> > (4/1/2019 7:59AM)
> >
> >
> > Since I suspected it was a path length issue, I tried saving the file
> name
> > test.gnucash in the same location, but got the same error.  So I went one
> > folder back and tried to save again and it failed the same way.  I kept
> > shortening the path folder by folder like this until it did save, which
> was
> > as follows:
> >
> > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\test.gnucash
> >
> >
> > Next, I copied the original folders so I could make a test path exactly
> > like the path that causes the error, but with no ampersand, and I still
> get
> > the the same problem.
> >
> > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C and D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\ fails
> > just like   C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\
> >
> >
> > A screen shot of the error
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/gd8rlgj1kvv0ysn/2019-04-05_18-37-52.png?dl=0
> >
> >
> > Next, I copied the original folder so I could make a test path exactly
> like
> > the path that causes the error, but with no spaces in the folder names
> and
> > no ampersand, and I still get the same problem.  *However*, this time,
> when
> > gnucash tried to display the path in the error message, it got some of it
> > right.
> >
> > A screen shot of that is here:
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3p0agpdlkmzia4/2019-04-05_18-52-26.png?dl=0
>
> These Dropbox links give 404 errors - “That file isn’t here any more”.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Greg
>
> Just a thought - could there be a clash of character sets between what
> Windows expects and what Gnucash delivers?
>
> Or a “\” vs “/“ clash?
>
> Michael
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Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Michael Hendry]

> On 7 Apr 2019, at 16:32, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> The path length issue was with 3.5 on Win 7-64.  Previously used 2.6.x to
> save to the same location without trouble.
> 
> The path that 3.5 failed to write to is:
> 
> C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> Files\(VerboseFileNameProbably30chars.gnucash)
> 
> 
> The last successful saves to this directory was by GnuCash 2.6.21, and was:
> 
> C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash.20190401075914.log  (4/1/2019
> 8:01AM)
> 
> C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash
> (4/1/2019 7:59AM)
> 
> 
> Since I suspected it was a path length issue, I tried saving the file name
> test.gnucash in the same location, but got the same error.  So I went one
> folder back and tried to save again and it failed the same way.  I kept
> shortening the path folder by folder like this until it did save, which was
> as follows:
> 
> C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\test.gnucash
> 
> 
> Next, I copied the original folders so I could make a test path exactly
> like the path that causes the error, but with no ampersand, and I still get
> the the same problem.
> 
> C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C and D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\ fails
> just like   C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\
> 
> 
> A screen shot of the error
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gd8rlgj1kvv0ysn/2019-04-05_18-37-52.png?dl=0
> 
> 
> Next, I copied the original folder so I could make a test path exactly like
> the path that causes the error, but with no spaces in the folder names and
> no ampersand, and I still get the same problem.  *However*, this time, when
> gnucash tried to display the path in the error message, it got some of it
> right.
> 
> A screen shot of that is here:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3p0agpdlkmzia4/2019-04-05_18-52-26.png?dl=0

These Dropbox links give 404 errors - “That file isn’t here any more”.

> 
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Greg

Just a thought - could there be a clash of character sets between what Windows 
expects and what Gnucash delivers?

Or a “\” vs “/“ clash?

Michael
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Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Greg Feneis]

Hi John,

The path length issue was with 3.5 on Win 7-64.  Previously used 2.6.x to
save to the same location without trouble.

The path that 3.5 failed to write to is:

C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
Files\(VerboseFileNameProbably30chars.gnucash)


The last successful saves to this directory was by GnuCash 2.6.21, and was:

C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash.20190401075914.log  (4/1/2019
8:01AM)

C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash
(4/1/2019 7:59AM)


Since I suspected it was a path length issue, I tried saving the file name
test.gnucash in the same location, but got the same error.  So I went one
folder back and tried to save again and it failed the same way.  I kept
shortening the path folder by folder like this until it did save, which was
as follows:

C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\test.gnucash


Next, I copied the original folders so I could make a test path exactly
like the path that causes the error, but with no ampersand, and I still get
the the same problem.

C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C and D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\ fails
just like   C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\


A screen shot of the error
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gd8rlgj1kvv0ysn/2019-04-05_18-37-52.png?dl=0


Next, I copied the original folder so I could make a test path exactly like
the path that causes the error, but with no spaces in the folder names and
no ampersand, and I still get the same problem.  *However*, this time, when
gnucash tried to display the path in the error message, it got some of it
right.

A screen shot of that is here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3p0agpdlkmzia4/2019-04-05_18-52-26.png?dl=0



Kind regards,

Greg




On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:14 PM John Ralls  wrote:

> That's interesting. What is the path that's causing trouble with 3.5, and
> please remind me what OS you're using.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
> > On Apr 6, 2019, at 10:04 PM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >
> > There's a problem with 3.5 where it won't save to the usual location
> that I
> > have saved the file to when I was using 2.6.x  For some reason 3.5 has a
> > problem with path length.  I never had a problem with 2.6.21, I just
> > thought I should keep up to the latest in case I wanted to ask for help
> > with it.  But since it's going to give me trouble, I'll just go back to
> > 2.6.21, so long as it will work with the file that was previously saved
> by
> > 3.5.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Greg Feneis 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 7:09 PM Fross, Michael  wrote:
> >
> >> If you don't mind my asking, why are you downgrading?  What have you
> found
> >> that you prefer in 2.6.21?
> >>
> >> Michael
> >>
> >> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 1:26 PM Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I've done some work in 3.5 and I'm considering downgrading to 2.6.21.
> >>>
> >>> Can 2.6.21 work with the xml .gnucash file once it was changed and
> saved
> >>> by
> >>> 3.5?
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>>
> >>> Greg
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Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[David Carlson]

Greg, Release 2.6.21 is supposed to be able to read data files that have
been processed by releases in the 3.x series, The developers do want know
about your issue with 3.5.

David Carlson.

On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 12:18 AM John Ralls  wrote:

> That's interesting. What is the path that's causing trouble with 3.5, and
> please remind me what OS you're using.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
> > On Apr 6, 2019, at 10:04 PM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >
> > There's a problem with 3.5 where it won't save to the usual location
> that I
> > have saved the file to when I was using 2.6.x  For some reason 3.5 has a
> > problem with path length.  I never had a problem with 2.6.21, I just
> > thought I should keep up to the latest in case I wanted to ask for help
> > with it.  But since it's going to give me trouble, I'll just go back to
> > 2.6.21, so long as it will work with the file that was previously saved
> by
> > 3.5.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Greg Feneis 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 7:09 PM Fross, Michael  wrote:
> >
> >> If you don't mind my asking, why are you downgrading?  What have you
> found
> >> that you prefer in 2.6.21?
> >>
> >> Michael
> >>
> >> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 1:26 PM Greg Feneis  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I've done some work in 3.5 and I'm considering downgrading to 2.6.21.
> >>>
> >>> Can 2.6.21 work with the xml .gnucash file once it was changed and
> saved
> >>> by
> >>> 3.5?
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>>
> >>> Greg
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Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[John Ralls]

That's interesting. What is the path that's causing trouble with 3.5, and 
please remind me what OS you're using.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Apr 6, 2019, at 10:04 PM, Greg Feneis  wrote:
> 
> There's a problem with 3.5 where it won't save to the usual location that I
> have saved the file to when I was using 2.6.x  For some reason 3.5 has a
> problem with path length.  I never had a problem with 2.6.21, I just
> thought I should keep up to the latest in case I wanted to ask for help
> with it.  But since it's going to give me trouble, I'll just go back to
> 2.6.21, so long as it will work with the file that was previously saved by
> 3.5.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Greg Feneis 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 7:09 PM Fross, Michael  wrote:
> 
>> If you don't mind my asking, why are you downgrading?  What have you found
>> that you prefer in 2.6.21?
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 1:26 PM Greg Feneis  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I've done some work in 3.5 and I'm considering downgrading to 2.6.21.
>>> 
>>> Can 2.6.21 work with the xml .gnucash file once it was changed and saved
>>> by
>>> 3.5?
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Greg
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Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Greg Feneis]

There's a problem with 3.5 where it won't save to the usual location that I
have saved the file to when I was using 2.6.x  For some reason 3.5 has a
problem with path length.  I never had a problem with 2.6.21, I just
thought I should keep up to the latest in case I wanted to ask for help
with it.  But since it's going to give me trouble, I'll just go back to
2.6.21, so long as it will work with the file that was previously saved by
3.5.




Kind regards,

Greg Feneis 




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> If you don't mind my asking, why are you downgrading?  What have you found
> that you prefer in 2.6.21?
>
> Michael
>
> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 1:26 PM Greg Feneis  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've done some work in 3.5 and I'm considering downgrading to 2.6.21.
>>
>> Can 2.6.21 work with the xml .gnucash file once it was changed and saved
>> by
>> 3.5?
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Greg
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Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

[Fross, Michael]

If you don't mind my asking, why are you downgrading?  What have you found
that you prefer in 2.6.21?

Michael

On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 1:26 PM Greg Feneis  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've done some work in 3.5 and I'm considering downgrading to 2.6.21.
>
> Can 2.6.21 work with the xml .gnucash file once it was changed and saved by
> 3.5?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Greg
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