[Goanet-news]16 OCT 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
## # Don't just read the news... discuss it. Learn more about Goa via Goanet# # Goanet is a 10-year-old network launched by Herman Carneiro in 1994. # # See all archives http://news.gmane.org/gmane.culture.region.india.goa/ # # To join, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask to join GoanetDigest. # ## GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS Oct 16, 2004 THOUGHT FOR THE DAY: Jivit ek khell kosso. Kednaim ami chuktat ani dukhoutat, punn amchea kallzachi foddafodd suru zata thuimsor jivit kabar zainam; tem kabar zata fokot jednam ami axea soddttanv ani soth mandunk bond kortanv. (Life is like a game. Sometimes, we miss and get hurt, but life doesn't end where our heartaches begin, it only ends when we give up and stop believing.) domnic fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] GOACOM VIDEO NEWS: Video Clip from Goa on the first Session of HERITAGE JAZZ YATRA organised by Armando Gonsalves of Trancemedia at Rebelo Mansion at Betalbatim on October 10, 2004, at http://www.goacom.com/news Clips_Heritage_Jazz Yatra_1: BJP'S ISIDORE FERNANDES VICTORIOUS: BJP candidate Isidore Fernandes defeated his arch rival and Congress nominee Jagdish Acharya by a margin of over 2486 votes in the Poinguinim by-poll in Goa. In the results declared this morning, Isidore polled 6961 votes while the combined efforts of the opposition parties fetched only 4465 votes for Archaya. The results are definitely upsetting for the Congress party who had expected their candidate to get elected which would have supplemented their attempts to dislodge Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar and return to power in Goa. With Isidore's inclusion the BJP strength is now 20 in the House of 40 members. Moreover, PWD Minister Sudin Dhavlikar and Water Resources Minister Filipe Neri Rodrigues (an independent) won't be enjoying the same influence in the BJP-led coalition as they did before the by-poll as Parrikar need not rely on their support now. (GoaNOW) FIRST CHARTERED FLIGHT ARRIVES: The first two chartered flights from the United Kingdom for this tourist season landed at Dabolim Airport on Friday (14 October) bringing to Goa upmarket tourists, most of them British nationals. The direct flight, Excel Airways, flying for the first time to Goa, appeared from a misty sky and touched down at Dabolim at 8.15 am carrying tourists from Gatwick and Manchester, England. The flight carried a total of 269 passengers.The second flight, a Boeing 757 of March Airlines, chartered by Jewel in the Crown, laded at 4.30 pm from Manchester. Jewel in the Crown is the single largest tour operator bringing tourists to Goa. The flight brought 233 people, mostly British nationals. (GT) DGP ACTING ON DIRECTIVES OF CENTRE, ALLEGES BJP: The Bharatiya Janata Party' s Goa unit president, Rajendra Arlekar, on October 15, fired the first salvo against Goa's police chief, DGP Amod Kanth. At a press conference on Friday, Arlekar accused Kanth of acting on the directives of the Congress-led UPA government at the Centre. (H) NO INCREASE IN FUEL PRICES: Contrary to speculation, government on October 15, decided not to increase petrol and diesel prices despite the sharp surge in crude oil prices, and asked the public sector oil companies to bear the burden for another fortnight. (NT) IFFI TO BE HELD IN GOA: After dithering for several months, the Centre, on October 15, formally announced that the 35th International Film Festival of India is to be held in Goa from November 29. The decision was taken after assessing the reports of the empowered committee which was sent to assess whether Goa had the requisite infrastructure to hold the festival from this year, following a decision taken by the National Democratic Alliance government to make the coastal state the permanent venue of the annual fete. The festival will be held from November 29 to December 9. The main festival will be held in festival theatres located at Campal, Panaji. (NT) BARDEZ COASTLINE UNDER FIRE OF TOURISM: For the two million visitors who land on her shores each year, Goa, India, is just a good holiday. But the impact of mass tourism is strongly being felt on the shores of North Goa, where tourism first took root in the 1960s with disaffected western youth fleeing the materialism of their societies. North Goa's most scenic spot is being squeezed of its water resources, choked by sewage, swamped by population pressures, and seeing its skyline and vegetation undergoing a drastic change, says a recently published study on the subject. Unless something is done fast, the price to be paid could be serious. (Frederick Noronha in GT) CALL OF THE WILD: Wildlife in Goa is fairly diverse. Goa is gifted with the western ghat patch of forest, one of the 18-mega biodiversity hotspots of the world. Around 755 sq kms ie 20% of the total geographical area of 3702 s1 kms of the State has been constituted
[Goanet-news]GOANETREADER -- All types make Goa their home
## # Don't just read the news... discuss it. Learn more about Goa via Goanet# # Goanet is a 10-year-old network launched by Herman Carneiro in 1994. # # See all archives http://news.gmane.org/gmane.culture.region.india.goa/ # # To join, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask to join GoanetDigest. # ## ALL TYPES MAKE GOA THEIR HOME: STORIES FROM THE COASTLINE By Joseph Zuzarte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Goa is irresistible for way-out people. All types come here and make it their home, at least for a while. But those who used to give it that distinctive 'Goa' flavour are becoming harder to spot in the rising touristic tide. Though they~'re there, a part of the scenery now, enjoying Goa and finding themselves. In my village of Candolim, there's a distinctive group of people who stand out, the Taiwanese. There's about a dozen of them who stay for long periods here, a few of them only a couple of houses from me. Sometimes I see them doing Tai Chi in an abandoned volleyball court next to the hill. They're all practicing the art of 'Living Zen' and all work with an entity called the 'Living Zen Trading Company' which imports consumer and other items from Taiwan, which they sell at the 'Taiwan Market' in Calangute. Life for them revolves around their leader, Cuckoo, a Zen master. We're his followers, explains Elephant, the stout one amongst them who resembles a Chinese priest with a long wispy beard and moustache. Cuckoo is also the name of a restaurant on the beach where they and all their friends mostly congregate to eat some delicious food and discuss the finer nuances of life. Cuckoo is also a master of acupressure/acupuncture and used to heal at the Osho Commune in Pune. So the Osho types also hang out there. Why Goa? Because it's a nice place, says Elephant in Taiwanese while a friend of his translates. It's a nice beach, the local people are very kind to us, the surroundings are very comfortable. Everything looks natural and original, he concludes with a beatific wave at everything. He's been coming here now for eight years. The first time we came on holiday, we used to cook for ourselves. Some of our new friends would eat with us and they liked the food. They paid us some money to share the costs. Then we decided to make a restaurant and slowly we started a shop here, says Elephant pouring me some more of the green tea which they also sell at the shop, besides soya sauce, Chinese food noodles, etc. It's all very nutritious, specially their food (also the most popular food outlet at the Saturday Nite Market, Arpora) as they use original ingredients. Cuckoo restaurant is well known in gourmet circles. What is Zen? We don't know, he says matter-of-factly. We're still learning. We're just following Cuckoo. He points out to us when we do something wrong and pushes us in the right direction. It keeps out energy going. They explain that their approach is to be more alive, more in tune with the simplicity of nature. How do they handle people who are different from them in Goa? If people come with their cultures, slowly they'll cut down and become simple because our life is easy, he says. No unnecessary complications. What about the crazies? We've got nothing to do with that. Some people will always be confused; some people will always be clear. Swami Jeevan Roshan first came to Goa in 1981. A German (from Berlin), he had been to Kovalam and was going back to Bombay through Goa. When I came here, I knew I had come home, he says simply. With his money almost over, he was sprawled on Calangute beach watching the glorious sun set, wondering what to do next. Always a creative person, an idea came to him, so he called up his mother in Germany and asked her to send him a tattoo kit. Today he's possibly Goa's best known tattoo artist. If you have art in you, you can do anything and the art will be reflected in whatever you do. It can be anything, simply cooking, for example. I have many engines going, he says with a pixie-like smile. For many years he ran a popular restaurant in Calangute and in between also took Osho sanyas -- It was a joke, and it is still a joke, he says grinning widely. He also married a Goan lady, Yolla. Why Goa? Really, it's just the climate, the trees, the tropical environment, the sun. I love the monsoon, then the season comes; full six months it's the season. I play the guitar in the evenings (at some restaurants), come home, crash, wake up, somebody comes to do a tattoo. It's the kind of work I was looking for a I love it -- creating, cooking, playing music. His latest production is a 'Goa Trance' album, Galaxy Bubbles -- Made in Goa. He has also noticed the changes happening in Goa. Before, Goans were all smiling, but now you can't ask them the time. Now it's better because it's the monsoons -- it's relaxed, they're smiling. But after
[Goanet]Goa music * top ten
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Seeking the help of music afficionados out there in cyberspace to compile a 'top ten' of Goan music. It could be in any language. The top ten songs that Goa remembers (or should be remembering) the best. Thanks in advance, FN Frederick Noronha (FN)Nr Convent Saligao 403511 GoaIndia Freelance Journalist P: 832-2409490 M: 9822122436 http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks http://fn.swiki.net http://www.ryze.com/go/fredericknoronha http://fn-floss.notlong.com Difficulties to send email across? Write to fredericknoronha at vsnl.net
[Goanet]the practice of the Caste system the Catholic Church in Goa
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Just a few brief comments about the practice of the Caste system the Catholic Church in Goa. 1. The practice of the racist Caste System of India is Incompatible with Christianity. It is a Race-based relic of the white Aryan domination of the DARKer skinned natives of the subcontinent. The modern day convenient revision of its practice notwithstanding, it is the oldest and longest lasting practice of Apartheid. http://www.colaco.net/1/caste.htm (please see additional comments from Sunila Muzawar and Dr. Santosh Helekar). 2. Vivian D'Souza is on the button. Cecil (I assume Cecil Pinto) is absolutely right I have no Caste, I am a Catholic. Well said, guys. 3. I have NO clue why Antoinio Menezes wants the present Archbishop of Goa to answer WHY Catholicism allowed the caste system. Is it this Archbishop who allowed it? Suffice it to say that just because one changes one's religion means that one necessarily changes one's beliefs or ways of behaviour. It is difficult to comprehend HOW these folks who continued to practice the Hindu Caste System could be called Catholics. 4. As to Neal's query whether caste among Catholics in Goa truly correspond with their pre-colonial lineage, the answer is - in most instances YES. You know how difficult it is to marry outside one's caste, right? Please note that I only said MARRY.quite different from liberal genetic input . One thing for sure, even educated Hindus have modernised their ways, but todays Catholics..I believe that they are getting more Saffronized than ever - courtesy their favourite party -the BJP. Having said that, Neal may wish to note that there is NO mention of Chitpavan Brahmains till about a few centuries ago - about the time a boatload of (white) Jews were shipwrecked along the Konkan coast. It can be understood how it was easy to assign Brahmanism to them. So.you devotees of Shivaji and Tilak, please take note. There is also some query about the Brahmins from the Ilhas across the river from Old Goa. Strong suspicion that there is Holy (white) Iberian genes among those Brahmins And..why not? The more the confusao, the better! (:-) good wishes jc == (a) Vivian D'Souza Oct 14 14:44:32 2004 I prefer to answer any questions adressed to me about this subject with what my friend Cecil said: I have no Caste, I am a Catholic. (b) A.C. Menezes Oct 14 16:58:17 2004 vivian d!souza asks: why did the catholicism allow the caste system to continue ? elementary dear vivian, let the archbishop of goa reply to your question. antonio (c) Neal Pinto Oct 15 14:26:11 2004 Did the caste among Catholics in Goa truly correspond with their pre-colonial lineage? please visit NEW on The Goan Forum at http://www.colaco.net Recommended Goa related sites 1. http://www.goa-world.com 2. http://www.SuperGoa.com _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.com/
Re: [Goanet]Doing it for Goa
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Gilbert, You're presuming that (i) the US marines were welcomed as guests rather than dollar-spenders in Goa (ii) the Goans were great hosts, going by what the PR writer attached to the US Navy put out (iii) the class-room painting act was something more than a public relations exercise by a military force which has earned a lot of criticism and dismay, if not disgust, for its actions around the globe. You are also assuming that painting of class-rooms is a priority in Goa, and that this is what expat Goans (and native Goanetters) are best suited to undertake and coordinate. Finally, don't forget the First Law of Volunteering and Throwing Up Suggestions: Suggest something which you yourself can do best; not an idea which everyone else has to implement! FN On Sat, 16 Oct 2004, Gilbert Lawrence wrote: Gilbert Lawrence responds: Reading the following story made feel real proud especially in this election season in USA. I am proud because of: 1. The US sailors (with my tax dollars) visited Goa. 2. The Americans were welcomed as guests. 3. The Goans were great hosts. 4. Thy Americans provided a good example to native Goans and non-resident Goans by donation and service (painting two class rooms) to a school for poor in Goa. Now can we gain from all this? Can the Goans concerned about the perpetuity of caste, do a paint-job in a school which is predominant of the lower caste? Let's show our disdain for caste in Goa by doing something about it . with our hands. Can international GoaNetters at their next get-together in Goa volunteer to provide two-five days of service? Can native GoaNetters coordinate this project? Regards.
[Goanet]Teletext Goa. For U.K. Goans and others........
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## There are some mouth watering deals to Goa - check out page 581 on Teletext (ITV ). Cheers, Gabe.
[Goanet]Re: India to use FX to improve infrastructure.FT.Com
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:51:52 +0100, Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: [Goanet]India to use FX to improve infrastructure.FT.Com http://news.ft.com/cms/s/096fc2d8-1ed9-11d9-9015-0e2511c8.html India in precedent setting infrastructure move By Edward Luce in New Delhi Published: October 15 2004 19:37 | Last updated: October 15 2004 19:37 India is drawing up plans to use some of its almost $120bn of foreign exchange reserves to fund domestic infrastructure projects in a step that has no precedent elsewhere. RESPONSE: While India's infrastructure (especially transportation and power) need urgent attention wouldn't it have been prudent to invest those billions in buying bits of corporate America and Europe, especially companies that could participate in the infrastructure renewal. That way some of those billions would have been a lot more easily accessible and would have generated further wealth with their returns. At this time, I'm reminded of Enron's debacle in the Dabhol Power Company near Mumbai. I wonder how much of a haircut the investors and creditors have had to take on that project. Buying US T-bills only benefits Americans to drive their country further into debt as Eric pointed out a few weeks ago. Wonder what would happen if some large holders (Japan) of T-Bills suddenly decided to cash them in ?? Whadya think Gabe, Mervyn - our resident financial experts ?? Best wishes - Bosco --- Goanet - http://www.goanet.org - Goa's premier mailing list is 10 years old
[Goanet]Doing WHAT for Goa?
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Janette D. Souza Sat Oct 16 21:54:43 2004 Dear FN, I am really dismayed at your response to a display of generosity from the US marines. Whatever your reaction is to US policies, the actions of US Marines on shore leave is to be commended. I believe these actions are on a volunteer basis only. I hate to think that all friendliness in India is based sorely on a dollar spending sailor. JC's response I agree with FN This has nothing to do with the marines, OR any policies of any govt. BTW: If painting the classrooms was a priority for Goa and Goans, Goans should have done it. good wishes jc please visit NEW on The Goan Forum at http://www.colaco.net Recommended Goa related sites 1. http://www.goa-world.com 2. http://www.SuperGoa.com _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.com/
[Goanet]Re: Dabolim, Churchill and Alemao
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## With all due respect to Mr. Churchill Alemao, MP (South Goa) and the debaters on this issue upto this point, I have the following to state: First off I am of the opinion that Dabolim airport should return to the control of civilian authorities (AAI) so that flights can land when they (read flyers) want to land. The MP's letter to the Defence Standing committee does not appear to be making a strong case for the above. The only relevant point I noted was : QTE 5. For background purpose:- Goa being a very small state, it cannot afford to misuse, waste or part with its land resources. Defence and Central Government agencies occupy the major part of Vasco and Dabolim. END-QTE Yes Goa is a small state with limited land resources that are already being destroyed by environmental degradation. I don't believe anybody in the Govt of India, the State Govt or anywhere else gives a hoot about what the airport was identified for pre-1961 even if documentation exists albeit Gabriel (Melbourne) gave us an excellent insight of Dabolim's history a few weeks ago. Secondly, why has there been no avenue until recently to make a case for a discussion ?? Armed forces officers are ultimately under the command of political officers/ministers. Goa has always had a State Government and MPs in Delhi. Why have the dozen-or-so CMs not pushed the case ***strongly enough*** in the past ?? This is a case where the state governing and opposition parties should have got together to work on the federal authorities and armed forces. Some actions that could and may have been taken: - The AAI should alert the federal aviation minister ?? Get his support !! - Due to the inherent generation of revenue to state and federal coffers from tourism (60% of Goans dependent on tourism), the support of the federal Finance Minister and Excise officials should be solicited. Coming back to WHY.why is there so much noise about the airport...NOW ?? Is it because of the plan to build an airport in MOPA ?? Are the South Goa constituents (read hotel lobby) influencing Mr. Alemao's pronouncements on this issue ? He threatened to resign if MOPA was developed. He was a Chief Minister and MP in the 90s. Why the sudden passion for Dabolim ?? Is it partisan politics 1-0-1 again ?? We certainly can't afford to finance building an airport from scratch, let alone the means of transportation to/from the airport. So why doesn't Mr. Parrikar strongly support Mr. Alemao's bid at this time to return the airport to AAI control ?? He probably has a plan for Goenkars and tourists - Land in Mopa and take the Sky Bus to Ponje. Ohhh Dabolim !!! I'm giddy just thinking of you !!! Best wishes - Bosco --- Goanet - http://www.goanet.org - Goa's premier mailing list is 10 years old
Re: [Goanet]Doing it for Goa
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Fred, Is it your view that NRI visitors to Goa are welcomed only as dollar-spenders and that generally the locals seek to make a fast buck out of them? And/or that the Goa projects NRIs undertake are only public relations exercises to assuage their guilt? Cheers, Eddie - Original Message - From: Frederick Noronha(FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gilbert, You're presuming that (i) the US marines were welcomed as guests rather than dollar-spenders in Goa (ii) the Goans were great hosts, going by what the PR writer attached to the US Navy put out (iii) the class-room painting act was something more than a public relations exercise by a military force which has earned a lot of criticism and dismay, if not disgust, for its actions around the globe. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.773 / Virus Database: 520 - Release Date: 05/10/2004
[Goanet]The Matrimonial Act - from Goa Today
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Tongue-in-Cheek by Cecil Pinto From Non-Banking Finance Companies, to Pyramid Schemes disguised as Multi Level Marketing, Goa has seen a host of con artists take advantage of our trust and gullibility. Sleep inducing biscuits, magic mattresses, gold polishers, mute donation seekers, miracle cures... I'm pretty sure even the famous Nigerian e-mail scam was inspired by a Goan's greed for getting something for nothing. No sooner the Government and Police machinery discovers one con game another one surfaces elsewhere. I recently spoke to Kashinath Bhonsle, newly appointed Chairman of the Economic Offences Cell (CEO-C), about measures that are being taken to outwit the crooks. This month we are drafting the Legislation that will be named the Goa Matrimonial Act 2004 You mean the Holy Act of Matrimony, that's one of the Seven Sacraments? No, this nothing to do with the religion. It concerns only the wording of Matrimonial Advertisements. The Goa Government is very concerned about all these men and women who are falsely representing themselves in matrimonial advertisements. They are painting a very desirable picture, but then end up very disappointing. But surely that is not an economic offense? These cleverly worded matrimonial adverts are as old as history, and first-meeting-shocks are nothing new. There is no state in the country, or in the world, that has legislated matrimonial adverts! Please don't tell me about other states. Goa is unique state. For example which other state can boast that projects are completed so much before schedule? See our bridges and roads and bypasses. All completed months before scheduled dates. In fact just last week the bridge that was inaugurated was completed even before the tenders were opened! The Goa Government is very forward thinking. We are anticipating matrimonial advertisement will soon be used for luring people into Pyramid Schemes and hence are taking advanced action for preventing this. Fair enough. What measures does the Goa Matrimonial Act propose? No publication in Goa will be allowed to carry matrimonial advertisement unless it is accompanied by Special Notarised Affidavit stating exact facts. We are appointing special Matrimonial Notaries in every major town to authenticate contents of matrimonial advertisement before it is released. What all will these Matrimonial Notaries do? They will check that each and every word in the matrimonial advert is having physical proof as backing. For example they will measure the exact height of person if he or she wants to mention height in advertisement. Why is height so important in choosing a lifemate? I don't know, but we suggest in the act that only midgets and giants should mention exact height. For others we have three categories - Short, Medium and Tall. For age authentication we will need valid Birth Certificate. All relevant Degrees and Diplomas, of course, as proof of qualifications. And Proof of Income for any 'currently earning' claims. Exact Annual Income will need to be mentioned in the advertisement. No vague terms like six figure salary and such. You tell me what is a six figure annual salary? I don't know. Ok. One fellow earning Rs. 1,00,000/- a year. Other fellow earning Rs. 9,00,000/- a year. Both are six figures. What we can do? We need exact figures. And anyone claiming earnings from ancestral property will have to bring in proof to show he is indeed one of the owners of the property and has a right to any income. The paperwork for migrating to Canada is going to look easy when compared to the documentation we are demanding for placing a matrimonial advertisement. Gulfee, Shipee, Green Car Holder, Portuguese Passport Holder, Bulb Holders.. all these terms will have exact definitions with years of service / domicile compulsorily mentioned clearly. A fellow recruited in a tiny firm in Oman six months back cannot be in the same category as a fellow who has worked for twenty years at Aramco in Saudi Arabia. Of course the Oman fellow will have more hair. But that is different matter. What about subjective fields like complexion? Nothing that is observable and recordable is subjective. We have designed Skin Shade Chart that has every possible skin colour ranging from 'Sickly-Pale-White' to 'Nearly-Coal-Black'. Each shade has special number which will have to be mentioned in the advertisement so the prospective spouse knows exactly what colour skin to expect. We are also trying to work on a Texture Sampler that will categorise skins into Oily, Soft, Dry, Tender, Snakelike
[Goanet]gratitude
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Dear Goanet, Greetings in the precious name of Jesus Christ our Lord, my Saviour, Who lives. Thank you for taking all the efforts to bring to knowledge very important info on the Christian populace in India. I felt it is an assurance of the Lord that HE choses small, little, less, miniscule, scanty, weak, feeble to carry out His plans and purposes. Looking back to the History of Israel we see the same, God chose this small nation to bring Jesus into this world and not the strongest mightiest. Hence we are less here in India and the Lord will bring in millions into His fold. May God bless you and encourage you as you continue to serve Him and Him alone. yours in His amazing grace, Kalpana
[Goanet]Re: GoanetReader -- User guide to the Goa Right to Information Act 1997
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Dear Madam/Sir, I am a Goan holding a German passport and living in Germany since 1963. Somehow somewhere someone has recorded my name in the Goan Police records as one involved in anti-nationalistic activity. (I got this information through the Goa Police itself, more he couldn't say or do.) Since 1995 I am having a lot of trouble getting a visa to visit my family in Goa on account of this report. I was even put back on the same plane I came on in 1995 and the visa I've applied with the Consulate here in April is collecting dust. I've written to Vajpayee, Advani, and Gandhi, to the Home Ministry, External and Foreign Affairs, to the Ministers and even the Goa Governor, and the Goa Police, etc., to know the reason for all this but haven't received one small line from anyone of them till today. Sir, I am 70 years of age earning my bread here as any other expatriate since 1963 and getting involved in politics, to say nothing of anti-nationalistic activities, is the last thing I have been doing all these 40 years here in Germany. To say that I am completely lost and hurt by all this is to say the least. Therefore your User's Guide on Commonwealth Human Rights Initiative (CHRI)was a masterpiece of information, like water on a parched tongue, which I appreciated immediately and immediately downloaded it for a further reading and study. I shall be highly thankful if you could guide me under the new Goa Right to Information Act to know the Government's (New Delhi's as well as Goa's) silence in the matter and to find out what all this anti-nationalistic activity hush-hush is all about but also to know who is behind this mischievous piece of reporting and take the necessary legal action against the person/s or officer/s concerned. I would be highly thankful if CHRI could take up the matter for me, for, as matters stand, I feel that I shall be given the brush-off under the very same loopholes you haven pointed in your Guide, if I approached the Goa Authorities myself. Your early feedback would be highly appreciated. With kind regards, I remain, Yours faithfully, Rodolfo de Sousa. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GoanetReader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YOUR RIGHT TO INFORMATION A USER GUIDE ON THE GOA RIGHT TO INFORMATION ACT 1997 COMMONWEALTH HUMAN RIGHTS INITIATIVE Address: 2nd Flr, B-117, Sarvodaya Enclave, New Delhi 110017 Phone: +91-11-2652 8152, 2685 0523 Fax: +91-11-2686 4688 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: www.humanrightsinitiative.org Commonwealth Human Rights Initiative, 2004 Acknowledgment: CHRI wishes to thank and the many activists and in particular Parivartan Delhi, whose experiences CHRI has drawn upon in making up this easy to use guide. This User Guide is designed to provide a simple means of understanding the provisions of Goa Right to Information Act 1997. The Government of Goa enacted the Act in 1997. Through it, people have now have a LEGAL RIGHT to access to information held by the Government of Goa.
[Goanet]A modern version of an old fable
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## The Ant and the Grasshopper OLD VERSION: The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks he's a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed. The grasshopper has no food or shelter, so he dies out in the cold. MORAL OF THE STORY: Be responsible for yourself! MODERN VERSION: The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks he's a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others are cold and starving. CBS, NBC, and ABC show up to provide pictures of the shivering grasshopper next to a video of the ant in his comfortable home with a table filled with food. America is stunned by the sharp contrast. How can this be, that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so? Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah with the grasshopper, and everybody cries when they sing, It's Not Easy Being Green. Jesse Jackson stages a demonstration in front of the ant's house where the news stations film the group singing, We shall overcome. Jesse then has the group kneel down to pray to God for the grasshopper's sake. Tom Daschle John Kerry exclaim in an interview with Peter Jennings that the ant has gotten rich off the back of the grasshopper, and both call for an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his fair share. Finally, the EEOC drafts the Economic Equity and Anti-Grasshopper Act, retroactive to the beginning of the summer. The ant is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of green bugs and, having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by the government. Hillary gets her old law firm to represent the grasshopper in a defamation suit against the ant, and the case is tried before a panel of federal judges that Bill appointed from a list of single-parent welfare recipients. The ant loses the case. The story ends as we see the grasshopper finishing up the last bits of the ant's food while the government house he is in, which just happens to be the ant's old house, crumbles around him because he doesn't maintain it. The ant has disappeared in the snow. The grasshopper is found dead in a drug related incident and the house, now abandoned, is taken over by a gang of spiders who terrorize the once peaceful neighborhood. MORAL OF THE STORY: Vote for Bush
[Goanet]Urgent need of Blood
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Urgent request to Goanetters Lt. Col. Nageshwar has suffered a heart attack and is in the ICU of Goa Medical College at Bambolim. He does not know anyone in goa. Has got only one kidney. Needs blood. Apparantly Goa Medical College releases blood from blood bank only if there is a donor. His son is Bablu and contact number is 9422428693. This request came from Gita Wagle a resident of Benaulim and friend of the family. Thank you Ana Maria de Souza-Goswami
[Goanet]Hindu wedding
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## I am a Canadian woman interested in experiencing different cultures. I would love to attend a Hindu wedding in Goa in February or March, 2005. If you can help me, please contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you.
[Goanet]Re: the practice of the Caste system the Catholic Church in Goa
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## In a message dated 10/16/2004 4:02:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just a few brief comments about the practice of the Caste system the Catholic Church in Goa. Dear fellow-Goanetters, I was perhaps more fortunate than most in that my parents did not believe in caste, and taught us, their children, not to believe in caste either. In fact, when in college in Bombay I was dating a very dear girl, a favorite relative came to complain to my mother that I was dating someone from a different caste---and was promptly told to leave the house. Her own prejudices were so deeply rooted that she never talked to my mother again. A lifetime of experience has taught me that no matter how hard I try in personal arguments, I can never persuade a person who believes in caste not to believe in caste. I try to do that in writing, as I did in my novel Tivolem, and perhaps then I may have better success, because with fiction one has no personal confrontation, which breeds resistance and animosity. The best way to deal with caste, however, is by personal example. Let each one of us who believes caste is irrational, illegal, and irrelevant behave towards our fellow men and women as though caste were indeed irrational, illegal, and irrelevant. If we hear someone put someone else down because of their caste, we can gently but effectively disagree with the basis of their judgement, pointing instead to values such as character and integrity. These are not the exclusive property of any one caste, and these are the qualities that we should value most. Regards, Victor
[Goanet]Re: Doing it for Goa
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Dear FN, I am really dismayed at your response to a display of generosity from the US marines. Whatever your reaction is to US policies, the actions of US Marines on shore leave is to be commended. I believe these actions are on a volunteer basis only. I hate to think that all friendliness in India is based sorely on a dollar spending sailor. Janette D. Souza
[Goanet]Goan Institute Anniversary
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Please send me information on the upcoming anniversary of the Goan Institute. I plan to visit Nairobi in May/June 2005, and am trying to co-incide the visit with the anniversary. Many thanks, Loretta Moniz
[Goanet]Re: Congratulations Ben Evangelist
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## HI HOW DO I GET A HOLD OF THESE VCDS OR FILMS. CURRENTLY IN THE USA NOW.. THANKS JAMES JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do agree with you Stephen Fernandes, Ben Evangelist deserve maximum marks. As you can see from below (chart) His comedy got 10+ CONGRATULATIONS TO BEN EVANGELIST. Hope to see another one soon.
RE: [Goanet]Goan presence in Portugal
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Vivian, the history of Goan presence and achievement in portugal is a long and brilliant one. Many goans are not aware of this at all, and it would be great if someone someday set out to research this theme. I only mentioned a few names that I could recall instantly, but there are many examples of successful Goans in the 20th century. In fact, I think the early Goans in Portugal made such a good mark here that they created an enduring and prestigious image for Goans. Even today, some people have a high regard for you if you are a Goan, irrespective of what you are and what you do. Tony Barro's article on East Africa is a most interesting one. I would like to get back to that, and add my own account about Mozambique, if and when I find the time. I do not think the Portuguese policies had any influence on British attitudes. Quite on the contrary, it was British / Anglo-saxon influence via neighbouring Rodhesia and South Africa that explained some racism that existed in colonial Mozambique, and which by all accounts was not noticeable in Angola. There is one instance however, worth mentioning. When, in the 80's, the UK and Portugal were negotiating with China, for returning HK and Macau to Chinese sovereignty, the British Govt.(Margaret Tatcher) put a lot of pressure on Portugal not to grant Portuguese citizenship to the people of Macau, fearing that they would flock to the UK.There was some friction between the two countries at the time, bu the Port. Govt. did not budge and stood on principle. Which is why there are more than a 100.000 people in Macau with Portuguese nationality (all those who were born there under Portuguese rule). They have the right to live in Portugal and some did just that, but the majority remained in Macau. The UK created the infamous Nationality Bill instead, which made Hong-Kong British nationals second-class citizens, without the right to reside in the UK. The Hong-kong civic and democratic leaders at the time praised the portuguese attitude and held it as an example before the British colonial administration, demanding equal rights with the people of Macau, apparently without success. Rui Collaço From: Vivian D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]Rui Collaco's posting on Goan achievers in Portugal Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Glad to hear that so many Goans achieved so much in Portugal. This was probably a testament to the Portuguese people and the Portuguese government which was not as color conscious and racist as the British were particularly in the colonial days. Tony Barros's reference to the achievements of Dr. Paes is due to his having lived in British East Africa where Goans while highly regarded, were still kept in place by the British. During Colonial days in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, there was a hospital known as the European Hospital, later re-named Ocean Road Hospital, and another hospital called the Sewa Haji Hospital. The European hospital catered to Europeans and the Sewa Haji Hospital was for Asians and Africans. However, there was a special Goan ward at the European hospital. The birth certificate of those of us born in Dar es Salaam showed the place of birth as at the European Hospital. Clearly the European Hospital had better facilities as this was the era of racism and segregation. Did the Portuguese Government because of its enlightened policies push the British Government for this arrangement for all its citizens, irrespective of race ? _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]Goans in East Africa
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Rene ! I presume you are referring to drummer - Steven Sequeira -the son of St. Joseph's teacher- Mrs Patsy Sequeira. Steven got a very early start in his musical career . At 12 years of age, he teamed up with his cousin - Donald Dias (accordion) and Francis Madeira (guitar) - the youngest son of Mr. Madeira- The Club barman. All of them were also great pianists. He later moved to Goa where he teamed up with the great Goa musician - Remo Fernandes and Edwin Saldanha - the nephew of the late Willie Saldanha who played the Hawaiian guitar at the all famous Msimbazi Community Center concert in November 1961. Steve later did a three-year stint with the broadway musical - Jesus Christ Superstar in Bombay (Mumbai). The last I heard of him was in the early eighties when someone met him in New Delhi where he was playing at a nitespot with his wife - the daughter of Bombay's famous musician - Chic Chocolate. It seems Anita Rebello has thrown us another gauntlet. Would you or Viv be prepared to take it on ? rgds. Tony Barros.
Re: [Goanet]Doing it for Goa
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Fred - I'm surprised at this jaded response! Are you suggesting that Goans might be so money hungry that they welcome non-Goans to their shores only to the extent that there's money in it? Is that the way YOU feel? How sad! I'll be sure not to bring any dollars to Goa in January. Let's see if I'm treated differently. Viviana Frederick Noronha(FN) wrote: Gilbert, You're presuming that (i) the US marines were welcomed as guests rather than dollar-spenders in Goa (ii) the Goans were great hosts, going by what the PR writer attached to the US Navy put out (iii) the class-room painting act was something more than a public relations exercise by a military force which has earned a lot of criticism and dismay, if not disgust, for its actions around the globe. You are also assuming that painting of class-rooms is a priority in Goa, and that this is what expat Goans (and native Goanetters) are best suited to undertake and coordinate. Finally, don't forget the First Law of Volunteering and Throwing Up Suggestions: Suggest something which you yourself can do best; not an idea which everyone else has to implement! FN On Sat, 16 Oct 2004, Gilbert Lawrence wrote: Gilbert Lawrence responds: Reading the following story made feel real proud especially in this election season in USA. I am proud because of: 1. The US sailors (with my tax dollars) visited Goa. 2. The Americans were welcomed as guests. 3. The Goans were great hosts. 4. Thy Americans provided a good example to native Goans and non-resident Goans by donation and service (painting two class rooms) to a school for poor in Goa. Now can we gain from all this? Can the Goans concerned about the perpetuity of caste, do a paint-job in a school which is predominant of the lower caste? Let's show our disdain for caste in Goa by doing something about it . with our hands. Can international GoaNetters at their next get-together in Goa volunteer to provide two-five days of service? Can native GoaNetters coordinate this project? Regards.
Fwd: Re: [Goanet]Re: Goanet digest, Vol 1 #1548 - 18 msgs
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## If the Goan bishop was elected on the baisis of his caste than in my opinion he should step down. The Casta system is a great impediment to Goan future. It is causing Goa to have many fronteirs, at least one Goannetter has published an ad with his casta label on his chest. Several years ago only the upper casta folcloric groups made it to the far east. In today´s world it money talks and bull shite walks. B. Colaço It seems to me people only fall back on their privileges when they lack something more substantial like Education and Corporate success. Among educated people there is seldom evidence of distinction based on caste. It is rather based on the quality of their knowledge and understanding of their place in the world. Those who depend entirely on caste will soon find themselves relegated to the lowest rung in the social hierarchy. Like in the appointments to the church hierarchy in Goa there will be levelling out sooner than later. ___ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Union of Navelim London.
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Sun 14 Nov Union of Navelim. Feast of Our Lady of Holy Rosary at Bishop Thomas Grant RC School, Belltrees Grove, Streatham, London SW16 from 12pm - 8pm, commencing with mass. Music by Breakthru. Tickets from: Sandra Fernandes-Allen 020 8395 5462 Antonetta Fernandes 020 8 298 0804 Selwyn Ferrao 020 8 933 8362 Gabe Menezes 020 8 947 0290. For the flyer see: http://www.goanvoice.org.uk/newsletter/2004/Sep/issue5/event/
[Goanet]VIVA GOA SPORTS CLUB PRESENTATION
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## TUZO GAUM MHOJEM NAUM. VIVA GOA SPORTS CLUB Presents Gods Gift Everly Production TUZO GAUM MHOJEM NAUM which is Written Directed by well known Simon Gonsalves, this show will be staged at Rumaithiya Hall, Kuwait. On 19th November 2004. To entertain you artists coming from Goa are:- Comedian Ben Janet, Irine Vaz Bab Andrew, along with well known Kuwait based artists who are:- Querobina Carvalho, Gracy Moraes, Clara, Conchita Cardoz, Rosary Ferns, Trio Kings: Marcus Cajetan Mario, Michael D'Silva, Ardian Goes, Sylvester Vaz, Lawry Miranda, Ignatius De Xelvon, Jacinto Noronha, Manuel, Joe Fereira, Agnel D'Costa, Bab Agnel, Clifford, Comedian Salu Comedian Nelson, also accompanied by child artists Bab Palen Baby Athika. Maestro Josinho all the way from Goa will provide the musical scores along with Shahu Almeida and his troup. You'll witness scenes never seen before, Simon Gonsalves is well known for his One Act Plays, where he has won several awards, he also staged his last Suspense thriller TUJEA KALZAK VINCHAR which put him in the lime light, much more is yet to be said, therefore prepare yourself in advance to witness TUZO GAUM MHOJEM NAUM I don't think you'll want to miss it, so kindly reserve your gate passes in advance which are available with Raja Stores Tony Golden Goa Stores Tel. No. 657-5653 in Kuwait City. Sound will be provided by The Spiders Stage setup will be done by SPA. Sanny Vaz. Kuwait. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.com/
Re: [Goanet]No development unless you are with BJP?
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Samir , I am sorry for not replying earlier , I just wanted to make sure of the results ! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]No development unless you are with BJP? Renebab, on what basis r u saying that? All indications currently tell that it is not clear who will win. regards, Samir -- WHO will make it on the 13th ? Congress or BJP ? ... maybe BJP will. rene - Original Message - From: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]No development unless you are with BJP? BJP, Cong leaders step up efforts to woo Poinguinim voters
[Goanet]Death from Malaria
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Being in the medical field and having close relatives visit the west coast of India, this Christmas season, I read the story with great interest. It is disheartening indeed worrying to read about Malaria leading to death in one of Goa's leading academic. Many will express their sympathy at the funeral and in academic corridors. I hope however that this sentiment translates into action to spur the government and local citizens to do something about mosquitoes and malaria. Both these problems have been solved in the civilized world. There is no reason for Goa and India to be continued to be plagued by them. The solution is in the hands of ordinary citizens. In addition to the usual well tested measures, it is my belief that Starling (birds) and bats feed on mosquitoes. Any relevance of this to helping Goa? Regards.
[Goanet]Getting ahead of women
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Joel's News Clips WOMEN ON TOP IN GOA'S ROAD SHOW: Hundreds of men and women have been killed during the last few decades in road accidents in Goa, specially two-wheeler mishaps, but the number of victims among women riders has been very negligible, according to traffic police sources.While 203 men and 24 women lost their lives so far this year in road accidents, none of them was a female two-wheeler rider. The 24 women victims were either pillion riders or pedestrians..It may be argued that the number of female scooterists is less. And many argue that they also disobey rules. But the fact is they ride safe. (Paul Fernandes in GT) At the risk of being labelled as prejudiced I can say with confidence that most women riders (and drivers) in Goa have very poor road sense. There are the few who can take any man for a ride but those are the exception rather than the rule. In Goa women riders will: - Park wrongly - Reverse without looking - Turn without signalling etc. True in general they drive slower then men (which is not necessarily a good thing, specially on a highway) but they more than make up for it with their total lack of knowledge about the rules of civic driving. At any time if I see a bike hesitantly weaving in front of me on the road I know that the chances are good that its either somebody whose tyre just got punctured, or more probably, a woman rider. The tight skirted variety are and even bigger danger because they can't easily place a foot on the road to stabilise their bike. And if ever you see a woman driving a car ahead of you please Keep Safe Distance if you value your life. They will brake in the middle of the road or suddenly swerve to one side or do something totally nonsensical like trying to park in an impossible place or take a wide turn where a sharp one was required (and then reverse and cause a traffic jam). My advice to any vehicle owner is to go ahead of (overtake - but keep a wide berth) a woman driver/rider who is dithering on the road unsure of where to park/ turn/ stop, or else by driving/ riding behind her you are placing your vehicle/ life/ limb at grave risk. No wonder the statistics show there are less women dying in vehicle accidents. The women are causing the accidents and the men are dying. Potholes, stray cattle, stray dogs, drunken driving - all these can someday be controlled. But who is going to control licenses being given to women who have no road sense? Brickbats welcome from women. Please state your License Number and how you got it. And explain why there are so many scratches on your car/ bike. Cheers! Cecil
[Goanet]Doing it for Goa
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Gilbert Lawrence responds: Reading the following story made feel real proud especially in this election season in USA. I am proud because of: 1. The US sailors (with my tax dollars) visited Goa. 2. The Americans were welcomed as guests. 3. The Goans were great hosts. 4. Thy Americans provided a good example to native Goans and non-resident Goans by donation and service (painting two class rooms) to a school for poor in Goa. Now can we gain from all this? Can the Goans concerned about the perpetuity of caste, do a paint-job in a school which is predominant of the lower caste? Let's show our disdain for caste in Goa by doing something about it . with our hands. Can international GoaNetters at their next get-together in Goa volunteer to provide two-five days of service? Can native GoaNetters coordinate this project? Regards. US Navy enjoys the unique culture of Goa GOA, India (NNS) -- Sailors from USS Cowpens (CG 63), USS Gary (FFG 51), and USS Alexandria (SSN 757) took some time before and after the second phase of Exercise Malabar 04, Oct. 3-9, to enjoy the unique culture of Goa, India. Malabar, a bilateral exercise between the U.S. and Indian navies, was designed to increase interoperability between the two navies while enhancing the cooperative security relationship between India and the United States. The at-sea training included maritime interdiction, surface events, sub-surface and air events, as well as personnel exchanges. Wandering the streets and market places, the numerous street-side vendors and the wide variety of food choices were not lost on Sailors. Excerpt: MARGAO. Sailors put smiles on the faces of the students of The Trust of Nanu Nagle School for the Poor here, when they donated medical supplies, sewing machines and books, and painted two classrooms and playground equipment for a community service project Oct. 10. Full text at: http://www.news.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=15514
[Goanet]SAD DEMISE OF MRS. MARY VAZ!
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## I am very sad at the demise of Mrs. Mary Vaz. I was fortunate to act with her and Jacinto Vaz in five dramas in Bahrain in 1978. Our heartfelt condolences to his sons Tony Peter and their families. May her soul rest in peace. Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA SAD DEMISE OF TIATR ARTISTE MARY VAZ: Mrs. Mary Vaz, one of the seniormost Konkani stage artistes and wife of late Jacinto Vaz - Goa's Charlie Chaplin - passed away peacefully early this morning at her residence in Azossim, Mandur. Her funeral will take place today evening, read an email message from goanetter Daniel F. de Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED], on October 15. Besides her performance on the stage Marry Vaz also did a brief role in the Konknni film Nirmonn. Vivacious Mary D'Silva lived in Chandanwadi in Mumbai, where she came across Jacinto Vaz and married him at the age of seventeen, says Bonaventure D'Pietro in his Konkani Magazine Arso. Mary acted for the first time in Xevott Putancho, a tiatr staged by Jacinto Vaz as a charity show in aid of St Francis Xavier church in Dabul. Her career took off with the role of Mary Magdalene in JP Souzaline's religious tiatr Saibinnicheo Sat Dukhi. Fr Freddy J da Costa also featured her in his popular plays. She leaves behind two sons, Tony, a wellknown bass guitar player in the Hindi film industry, and Peter. (GoaNOW) _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.com/
Re: [Goanet]Where have those golden songs gone? Where have those times gone?
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Dear Silviano, Well said :- In any language a song is a song. And that goes without saying and it is so very true. Because a song is song... It is something to be sung, to be heard, to be experienced, to be enjoyed,to be lived. If I grew up with certain songs and those mean so much to me, evoking nostalgic moments and remebrances of days of yore, let no else think less of me. Even to hum those songs it is, as you say, sheer thrill, pure magic. But today sadly - as in everything else - we have in Goa separate camps. There are those who want only english songs, others only in konkani, or in marathi, or in hindi, etc. Further, for some here, Portuguese songs, for instance, are taboo and smack of anti-nationalism! They should at least take the trouble to read what you wrote, because they don't realize that any song, whichever the language, if well-rendered, is a song, after all. A world to be relived, a symphony of love, melody divine. I for one appreciate every song, in any language, especially if the interpreter (professional or amteur) takes pains to put forth a heartwarming rendition. Those songs that you mention, dear Silviano, and many more, are are also sweet music to my ears, and I do know the words of many of them. They mean a lot to me also because I too grew up with them and, no sooner the very first note is struck, they bring back feelings of deja vu and of intense emotional satisfaction. But, I must confess, the most beautiful songs (I want to strike a personal chord here), are those Portuguese and Konkanni lilting tunes, that my adored mother taught me while, seated on her lap, I experienced at the same time her warmth and her love, something that I may never be able to experience anew. And,oh, she sang so beautifully! May I be allowed to repeat your words, slightly differently though? Her singing made me feel good inside, made me laugh, and fall in love, yes, with the wole world. Regards, Francisco Dr. Francisco Colaco, MD Margao. Goa. all over again. t --- Silviano Barbosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Remember: 1) The Young Ones by Cliff Richard (Weren't all of us in love then?) 2) Counting Colours in a Rainbow by Nina Frederick(Not Noronha) 3) Tell me Quando Quando, Quando (Pat Boone?) 4) Come September ( and musical chairs in sports?) 5) Baby Elephant Walk (Radio Ceylon?) 6) Things (Bobby Darren?) (Every night I'm sitting by my window, Staring at the lovely avenue,, Watching lovers, holding hands and laughing, Thinking of the things we used to do. 7)Socu, Socu 8) Underneath the Maango Tree 9) Wonder like you (Ricky Nelson). Today's version should have Taj Mahal) 11) Corina, Corina 12) Pearly Shell 13) One and two and I love you? (Anyone has this song's lyrics?) . So go ahead and add to the list and let's re-live those moments once again! Those were the good old days! And today's not so bad. Tomorrow, who knows? Forget your worries. Enjoy the songs. I think all those writers/composers of those popular hit songs should have been awarded Ph. D. or Nobel Prize. They really left a huge legacy in this world! In any language, a song is a song, a sheer thrill, pure magic, even though they are just words in music! It moves you, makes you feel good inside, makes you laugh and fall in love all over again. __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
[Goanet]The new formula OC+CC+HC=MLA . cheers!!!!
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## oc = whisky cc=chicken chilly hc=hard cash I am a Poinguinkar. I am not sure whether I should be proud of that accidental fact. But I am sure of one thing: there are two types of people in Poinguinim, those who have stones in the kidneys and those who have rocks in their heads. Viva Goa!! Tony Martin ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com
RE: [Goanet]Where have those golden songs gone? Where have those times gone?
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## One and a two and I LOVE you, I love you, I love you Hope and hope and love me too, Lets play the game of love. I am not too sure of the 3rd line, and the rest. I too would like to have the words. Its something like this. Hope someone can find the rest. Regards, Nancy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Silviano Barbosa Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 5:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]Where have those golden songs gone? Where have those times gone? ## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Remember: 1) The Young Ones by Cliff Richard (Weren't all of us in love then?) 2) Counting Colours in a Rainbow by Nina Frederick(Not Noronha) 3) Tell me Quando Quando, Quando (Pat Boone?) 4) Come September ( and musical chairs in sports?) 5) Baby Elephant Walk (Radio Ceylon?) 6) Things (Bobby Darren?) (Every night I'm sitting by my window, Staring at the lovely avenue,, Watching lovers, holding hands and laughing, Thinking of the things we used to do. 7)Socu, Socu 8) Underneath the Maango Tree 9) Wonder like you (Ricky Nelson). Today's version should have Taj Mahal) 11) Corina, Corina 12) Pearly Shell 13) One and two and I love you? (Anyone has this song's lyrics?) . So go ahead and add to the list and let's re-live those moments once again! Those were the good old days! And today's not so bad. Tomorrow, who knows? Forget your worries. Enjoy the songs. I think all those writers/composers of those popular hit songs should have been awarded Ph. D. or Nobel Prize. They really left a huge legacy in this world! In any language, a song is a song, a sheer thrill, pure magic, even though they are just words in music! It moves you, makes you feel good inside, makes you laugh and fall in love all over again.
[Goanet]AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP (THOUGHT FOR TODAY) Oct. 16, 2004!
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Zolmololo tednam tum roddtalo ani zonn eklo tuje bonvtonni aslolo hanstalo. Tujem jivit purem jie, zoxeant morta tednam tum ekloch hanstolo ani tuje bonvtonni aslolo zonn eklo roddtolo (When you were born you were crying and everyone around you was smiling. Live your life to the fullest, so that when you die you are the one smiling and everyone around you is crying.) Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.com/
[Goanet]GOANETREADER -- All types make Goa their home
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## ALL TYPES MAKE GOA THEIR HOME: STORIES FROM THE COASTLINE By Joseph Zuzarte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Goa is irresistible for way-out people. All types come here and make it their home, at least for a while. But those who used to give it that distinctive 'Goa' flavour are becoming harder to spot in the rising touristic tide. Though they~'re there, a part of the scenery now, enjoying Goa and finding themselves. In my village of Candolim, there's a distinctive group of people who stand out, the Taiwanese. There's about a dozen of them who stay for long periods here, a few of them only a couple of houses from me. Sometimes I see them doing Tai Chi in an abandoned volleyball court next to the hill. They're all practicing the art of 'Living Zen' and all work with an entity called the 'Living Zen Trading Company' which imports consumer and other items from Taiwan, which they sell at the 'Taiwan Market' in Calangute. Life for them revolves around their leader, Cuckoo, a Zen master. We're his followers, explains Elephant, the stout one amongst them who resembles a Chinese priest with a long wispy beard and moustache. Cuckoo is also the name of a restaurant on the beach where they and all their friends mostly congregate to eat some delicious food and discuss the finer nuances of life. Cuckoo is also a master of acupressure/acupuncture and used to heal at the Osho Commune in Pune. So the Osho types also hang out there. Why Goa? Because it's a nice place, says Elephant in Taiwanese while a friend of his translates. It's a nice beach, the local people are very kind to us, the surroundings are very comfortable. Everything looks natural and original, he concludes with a beatific wave at everything. He's been coming here now for eight years. The first time we came on holiday, we used to cook for ourselves. Some of our new friends would eat with us and they liked the food. They paid us some money to share the costs. Then we decided to make a restaurant and slowly we started a shop here, says Elephant pouring me some more of the green tea which they also sell at the shop, besides soya sauce, Chinese food noodles, etc. It's all very nutritious, specially their food (also the most popular food outlet at the Saturday Nite Market, Arpora) as they use original ingredients. Cuckoo restaurant is well known in gourmet circles. What is Zen? We don't know, he says matter-of-factly. We're still learning. We're just following Cuckoo. He points out to us when we do something wrong and pushes us in the right direction. It keeps out energy going. They explain that their approach is to be more alive, more in tune with the simplicity of nature. How do they handle people who are different from them in Goa? If people come with their cultures, slowly they'll cut down and become simple because our life is easy, he says. No unnecessary complications. What about the crazies? We've got nothing to do with that. Some people will always be confused; some people will always be clear. Swami Jeevan Roshan first came to Goa in 1981. A German (from Berlin), he had been to Kovalam and was going back to Bombay through Goa. When I came here, I knew I had come home, he says simply. With his money almost over, he was sprawled on Calangute beach watching the glorious sun set, wondering what to do next. Always a creative person, an idea came to him, so he called up his mother in Germany and asked her to send him a tattoo kit. Today he's possibly Goa's best known tattoo artist. If you have art in you, you can do anything and the art will be reflected in whatever you do. It can be anything, simply cooking, for example. I have many engines going, he says with a pixie-like smile. For many years he ran a popular restaurant in Calangute and in between also took Osho sanyas -- It was a joke, and it is still a joke, he says grinning widely. He also married a Goan lady, Yolla. Why Goa? Really, it's just the climate, the trees, the tropical environment, the sun. I love the monsoon, then the season comes; full six months it's the season. I play the guitar in the evenings (at some restaurants), come home, crash, wake up, somebody comes to do a tattoo. It's the kind of work I was looking for a I love it -- creating, cooking, playing music. His latest production is a 'Goa Trance' album, Galaxy Bubbles -- Made in Goa. He has also noticed the changes happening in Goa. Before, Goans were all smiling, but now you can't ask them the time. Now it's better because it's the monsoons -- it's relaxed, they're smiling. But after the season starts, they've got no time; they're trying to make money.
[Goanet]RE: Goanet digest, Vol 1 #1549 - 14 msgs
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Dear All, Could you please anyone send me old DHORMIK GITAM (in konkani) and LAUDAIN (in latin). Appreciate for your reply. Regards, Ramos Fernandes _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.com/
[Goanet]re: Dabolim etc
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## 1. Dr J. Colaco wrote on Oct. 15: There has been (UNTIL RECENTLY) no avenue for anyone to make a case or hold a discussion (emphasis mine). This is a positive sign. What is the change of heart due to? Perhaps it is the lobbying by Churchill referred to by a couple of people (though I feel it is just a lot of paper shuffling). Or it is due to the present Navy Commander being supposedly less high handed than his predecessors as pointedly mentioned in earlier postings of the correspondent. Let us fervently hope that efforts to hold discussions and find a way out, keeping uppermost in mind the country's security needs (rather than a petty property dispute), will be fruitful.. 2. Dr J. Colaco also wrote in his Oct 15 posting: So that ALL of us are on the same page, I am reproducing ...the Churchill Alemao letter of Sept 13, 2004 (empahsis in original). Either he inadvertently missed the second sentence of my Oct 14 posting or he simply refuses to see it. I DID read the Churchill letter but said that it did not contain the information I was looking for viz what the Dabolim Airport was being used for by the Navy. Thus there is no confirmation of the point that it is simply being used for Naval Training as mentioned in the very end of the letter under reference. 3. There is no disputing that the Airports Authority of India (AAI) is having problems handling civilian flights due to Navy restrictions which the correspondent keeps harping on. Everybody knows this. (My point had to do with the earlier diagnosis of Indian Imperialism, i.e. not just by the Navy). In fact, despite all the polite noises being made about the present Navy Commander being very sensible etc, the Navy seems persistently critical of the AAI in not using the airport during the night hours when the Navy has completely lifted flight restrictions. This is one specific area where a professional (rather than highly charged) dialogue seems necessary and may be fruitful in the long run. The bottom line: Please dont give up on the case so easily and keep trying for a dialogue. Goa's eyes may be upon you!
[Goanet]16 OCT 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS Oct 16, 2004 THOUGHT FOR THE DAY: Jivit ek khell kosso. Kednaim ami chuktat ani dukhoutat, punn amchea kallzachi foddafodd suru zata thuimsor jivit kabar zainam; tem kabar zata fokot jednam ami axea soddttanv ani soth mandunk bond kortanv. (Life is like a game. Sometimes, we miss and get hurt, but life doesn't end where our heartaches begin, it only ends when we give up and stop believing.) domnic fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] GOACOM VIDEO NEWS: Video Clip from Goa on the first Session of HERITAGE JAZZ YATRA organised by Armando Gonsalves of Trancemedia at Rebelo Mansion at Betalbatim on October 10, 2004, at http://www.goacom.com/news Clips_Heritage_Jazz Yatra_1: BJP'S ISIDORE FERNANDES VICTORIOUS: BJP candidate Isidore Fernandes defeated his arch rival and Congress nominee Jagdish Acharya by a margin of over 2486 votes in the Poinguinim by-poll in Goa. In the results declared this morning, Isidore polled 6961 votes while the combined efforts of the opposition parties fetched only 4465 votes for Archaya. The results are definitely upsetting for the Congress party who had expected their candidate to get elected which would have supplemented their attempts to dislodge Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar and return to power in Goa. With Isidore's inclusion the BJP strength is now 20 in the House of 40 members. Moreover, PWD Minister Sudin Dhavlikar and Water Resources Minister Filipe Neri Rodrigues (an independent) won't be enjoying the same influence in the BJP-led coalition as they did before the by-poll as Parrikar need not rely on their support now. (GoaNOW) FIRST CHARTERED FLIGHT ARRIVES: The first two chartered flights from the United Kingdom for this tourist season landed at Dabolim Airport on Friday (14 October) bringing to Goa upmarket tourists, most of them British nationals. The direct flight, Excel Airways, flying for the first time to Goa, appeared from a misty sky and touched down at Dabolim at 8.15 am carrying tourists from Gatwick and Manchester, England. The flight carried a total of 269 passengers.The second flight, a Boeing 757 of March Airlines, chartered by Jewel in the Crown, laded at 4.30 pm from Manchester. Jewel in the Crown is the single largest tour operator bringing tourists to Goa. The flight brought 233 people, mostly British nationals. (GT) DGP ACTING ON DIRECTIVES OF CENTRE, ALLEGES BJP: The Bharatiya Janata Party' s Goa unit president, Rajendra Arlekar, on October 15, fired the first salvo against Goa's police chief, DGP Amod Kanth. At a press conference on Friday, Arlekar accused Kanth of acting on the directives of the Congress-led UPA government at the Centre. (H) NO INCREASE IN FUEL PRICES: Contrary to speculation, government on October 15, decided not to increase petrol and diesel prices despite the sharp surge in crude oil prices, and asked the public sector oil companies to bear the burden for another fortnight. (NT) IFFI TO BE HELD IN GOA: After dithering for several months, the Centre, on October 15, formally announced that the 35th International Film Festival of India is to be held in Goa from November 29. The decision was taken after assessing the reports of the empowered committee which was sent to assess whether Goa had the requisite infrastructure to hold the festival from this year, following a decision taken by the National Democratic Alliance government to make the coastal state the permanent venue of the annual fete. The festival will be held from November 29 to December 9. The main festival will be held in festival theatres located at Campal, Panaji. (NT) BARDEZ COASTLINE UNDER FIRE OF TOURISM: For the two million visitors who land on her shores each year, Goa, India, is just a good holiday. But the impact of mass tourism is strongly being felt on the shores of North Goa, where tourism first took root in the 1960s with disaffected western youth fleeing the materialism of their societies. North Goa's most scenic spot is being squeezed of its water resources, choked by sewage, swamped by population pressures, and seeing its skyline and vegetation undergoing a drastic change, says a recently published study on the subject. Unless something is done fast, the price to be paid could be serious. (Frederick Noronha in GT) CALL OF THE WILD: Wildlife in Goa is fairly diverse. Goa is gifted with the western ghat patch of forest, one of the 18-mega biodiversity hotspots of the world. Around 755 sq kms ie 20% of the total geographical area of 3702 s1 kms of the State has been constituted into wildlife-protected areas to afford complete protection to the natural
[Goanet]Lyrics, Anthony San and Platilda's Cazar Zat'Re, in Sashtti Konknni Classic Goa
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Hi Goanetters This song, in Sashtti Konkani accent, is dedicated to our beloved Bardezkars, some of whom have no clue of what the song is about, but still enjoy it, regardless, especially when it is sung to the beat of that immortal Arabic popular hit of yester-century! Remember Ye Mustapha, Mustapha?... Shelishi-doma sheri sesha do...- sung by Bobby Azam? Album: Konkani CD Classic Goa Title: Cazar Zat're Words Producer: Silviano Barbosa Music: Mestre Josinho Sung By: Anthony San and Platilda Here goes. Enjoy! Silviano Konkani Cd Classic Goa Track/Song # 11 CAZAR ZAT' RE By Silviano Barbosa I Boy Kit-go Coinsão aj, fuim go tum oita? Tuk choilear jiv muzo uchamboll zata GirlKitea Bostião tum, muj hatlian mota? Tuk choilear sounsar, maka naka dissota. Chorus (Repeat) Boy Tuzo ekdom chodd mog kotam Coinsão Cazar zaun tuka ditam mojem naum GirlMojea mogan podla Dara Singh João (kitem?) Tujea osleank matui leki nam re aum Dialogues 1 Girl (Borem aham mure hem baizuon eshem Bashi-bor ) Boy ( Tum mak esh mari na teshi mar, pun tunch mak zaiem ) II Boy Coinsão cazrachem di go mak utor Magi rokddem go istart, mogachem mottor GirlTuj padd poddom, tum gonshechem bontor Tuj ani sunnea modem, kaim nam re ontor. Chorus (Repeat) Boy Coinsão kiteak tum vibaddtai fuddar, Joãonk ravlear tum urtelem ankvar. GirlUrlear urom vosson bostolim sankvar Punn tuje kodde zaunchimnam cazar. Dialogues 2 Girl (Sanglea dekun tenkot ess mure, kushin sorr Boy Kushin sorom zaina, tuge moga magnet mak oddun otta) III Boy Boinnin mhoje maka boroilea go chitt, Mhojem Canada vospachem zalam go fitt GirlTesh zalear Bostião um-attam re mitt Cazar zaunk toear assam veguim book kor seat. Chorus (Repeat) Boy Alapranar Canada-ku oitolim (Avoiss) Niagara Falls honeymoon kortolim (Neie garantum?) I-Sky Dome-ant ami circus choitolim (Forenchi re?) CN Tower-ant jevonn jeitolim Dialogues 3 Boy (Ago ant borem fulolam mugo) Tem gonshe bontor also tem ant fuim guelem? Girl Arre tem laundry-nt gan tek sarkem Canada ishnow white kelam Boy Ani to Joao-u? GirlTej padd pollem, ami cazar zauiea ani Canada k ya! .
