[Goanet] Re: Goa's appalling road sense is not going to change
Eddie, The sign should actually read Horn OK please? Now, don't make the mistake of trying to comprehend what this means, since it is in *Indian English* and not the Queen's version of the lingo. As, post-1947, after the sun rose of Indian English, we have been marching ahead and eagerly look forward to shortly become the country with the largest number of English-language speakers in the world. Maybe by then, we will be able to define *some* rules. Or, is it a case that the minority will always rule? Goan English has nuances of its own. Chak'upcer is slang for shock-absorber. Vicer is a washer (of the mech kind). K'linder is the driver's assistant (cleaner?). I never understood why a girlfriend gets abbreviated to handbag in Konklish, a language which one of the few experts is my journo-friend Valentino Fernandes (recently retired from Gomantak Times, and doing well with his self-published book 'How To Be An Instant Goan'). Please add to this list I once had this friend from Papua New Guinea (who went on to become the Press Secretary to the Prime Minister) who was explaining the finer nuances of the PGN lingo called Tok Pidgin. Someone asked him, So is it just badly-spoken English? He shot back: If that's the case, you could call English badly-spoken German. So c'mon guys, let's embark on this huge process of legitimising the role of Konklish (and Indian English) in the English speaking world. Just think of the benefits. No one will be able to point fingers at how poorly English is spoken here. Talking about English, why are Konkani speakers so often laughing at each other's variants, dialects, vocabulary and pronounciation? And I'm not talking about expats who have only a nodding acquaintance with the language, but also long-time residents, who speak one or the other variant of the language well enough for all their purposes, but still get laughed at. FN Eddie Fernandes eddie at fernandes.u-net.com Tue Apr 4 14:16:22 PDT 2006 The sign behind every truck, is in fact, HORN OK? The use of the question mark has often intrigued me One year, only after about a week, I realised that the horn of the car I had rented was not working. I had it seen to just in case. In my experience there is much less use of the horn in the last two years. -- -- Frederick 'FN' Noronha | Yahoomessenger: fredericknoronha http://fn.goa-india.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Independent Journalist | +91(832)2409490 Cell 9822122436 -- 1277 copylefted pics from Goa: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/ _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
RE: [Goanet] indo-french exercises
Dear Gilbert, Very good, Gilbert! very Good indeed! That is what the Indian Navy should be doing and getting better and better at the job, where crores have been invested. Congratulations to the Navy! But surely, you will agree that all this and more can be acheived from Sea Bird, and not from Dabolim. Sea bird was deliberately built at Karwar, and Dabolim was not selected then as The Sea Bird mBase for the Navy. So why is the Navy not moving to Karwar, on their own. More so, you should tell the Navy big wigs whom you are familiar with, to get the hell out of Dabolim, and move to Sea Bird in Karwar, which is the base for the Navy to Fly! Let Dabolim remain solely for civilian uses in peace time. I hope you will not let Goa down. Goa needs Dabolim all for herself and never Mopa. Nascimento Caldeira Melbourne Down Under. From: gilbert menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@goanet.org To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] indo-french exercises Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 22:30:29 +0530 Hi, Im just an old navy veteran minding my own business and sitting under the shade of an old coconut tree at 0940 this morning in South Goa, sipping my coffee and keeping out of my wifes way, and trying to avoid all those contentious debates on Goanet as well, when I hear the scream of jets overhead and watch 2 fighter bombers overfly my house at low level. My eyes are still good enough to recognise them as SUPER ETENDARTS of the French Navy, based on the carrier CHARLES DE GAULLE, flying seaward, after a low level strike on Dabolim airport. Whats happenned to our Navy, because there should have been 2 Sea Harriers on their tails? Are they only playing Golf or football,or sitting on their backsides, as Churchill Alemao and all his pals have been saying to all the taxi drivers ,at all these *MOPA* public meetings all over South Goa ? Well, heres what I found out. The French carrier, which was 700 miles NE of Goa, the night before, made a high speed dash towards Goa during the night and launched 2 strikes of 4 aircraft this morning,to destroy the runaway at Dabolim at a range of 250 miles from Goa.. Our Kamov AWACS helicopter, which had been launched from the deck of one of our frigates operating off Goa earler in the morning, detected the incoming strike about 100 miles out of Goa, and 2 Sea Harriers , on CAP, were vectored to intercept, which they succesfully did. The French pilots were then permitted to have a close look at the Benaulim and Colva beach , on their outward leg , back to the CHARLES DE GAULLE. Why do I write this? Three reasons-firstly, our Navy is the most powerful in the region, and one which is admired worldwide as being thoroughly professional. Secondly, we could never dream of seeing foreign fighter aircraft overflying our territory--we are now getting truly globalised, and India is taking its rightful place among the comity of nations. Lastly, as a Goan, Im proud that Goa is an important cog in our nations defence. regards, Gilbert Menezes. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] CA/PS XI: CHECK OUT THE SIMILARITIES!
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20060404--1m4miramar.html Airport board looks at moving military Joint use could be dropped at Miramar By Jeff Ristine UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER April 4, 2006 From the Pentagon on down, military figures have told the Airport Authority that joint use of the Miramar Air Station would endanger the installation's training and national-defense mission. Now the agency wants to see what could be done by taking the joint out of joint use. Without removing any of its other dwindling options from the table, the San Diego County Regional Airport Authority board voted 6-3 yesterday to explore ideas that require moving certain military operations somewhere else to allow the separate operation of a commercial airport. With the military refusing to engage in what if scenarios, board members said they simply want to see if they can come up with a win-win solution of their own that could draw enough voter and congressional support to bring civilian military leaders to the negotiating table. Nothing too elaborate is expected from the vote, a follow-up to committee action instigated last week by San Diego Councilman Tony Young. The agency staff said it can research Miramar ideas without any additional budget expenditure, leaving it up to the nine-member board whether and how to use any concepts brought back for review. This is not locking us into a particular idea or solution, said board member Paul Nieto. Lemon Grove Mayor Mary Teresa Sessom, a longtime critic of the military airport options, characterized the concept as kicking the Marines out of Miramar. The proposal isn't quite so blunt, referring only to certain assets at Miramar being repositioned. In February, the board's technical consultants presented the idea of building a military-only runway at Camp Pendleton to allow the Marines to move simulated carrier landing practice, a key activity at Miramar that requires precision use of airspace and plenty of room for error over undeveloped land. The idea got cold-shoulder treatment from an assistant Navy secretary and went nowhere with the board's strategic planning committee. A senior Marine Corps official attending the board meeting declined to comment after yesterday's vote, in which Sessom, Xema Jacobson and Robert Maxwell dissented. But the move is a departure from the methodical analysis of costs, airspace and environmental impacts that has typified the airport site-selection project in its final weeks. Besides joint use at Miramar, Camp Pendleton and North Island, the agency is considering civilian sites in East County's Boulevard and the Yuha Desert of southwestern Imperial County. The board tentatively is expected to complete its work within the next two months, selecting a proposal to present to voters in a countywide ballot measure Nov. 7. With much of the analysis still under way, the North Island option - which would leave Lindbergh Field still in operation - has been handicapped by findings on difficulties posed by crosswinds. The Imperial County proposal is burdened by the estimated $15.2 billion to $18.5 billion cost of a maglev train to serve the location. Sessom, echoing views of military representatives expressed in previous discussions, said a go-for-broke approach to Miramar ignores the conclusions of the Pentagon's 2005 Base Realignment and Closure project, which left San Diego unscathed. That review - the military's own assessment of the efficiency of its assets - concluded the bases in San Diego County already are configured the way the military wants them, she said. Putting too much faith in a military solution, Sessom said, runs the risk the agency will have nothing to show for its effort when Lindbergh Field reaches its capacity of 260,000 operations a year. But board member William D. Lynch said if the board fails to work something out with the military, it is almost guaranteed to remain stuck at Lindbergh. The military, Lynch said, is going to stand firm on this until some higher authority, if you will, can address the issue of competing interests. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
Re: [Goanet] Ticket-Gate
Last time it was the BJP Govt. when fraud took place. Has the Congress Govt. learnt anything from that? Are they going to hush hush the matter as well? I think the ticket holders should get double the amount at-least for the time lost and the transportation costs etc. In other parts of the world, they (the organizers) would probably be sued for a much bigger chunk. Peoples power will always work as long as you take serious action on such matters but give some time for the Govt. to wake up first. Wilson Soares __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
Re: [Goanet] Accident at Guirim, innocent lives lost
--- floriano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That the drivers put off one head-light in the nights to save on the battery. What a stupid notion! I think these drivers ought to be trained in electro-mechanics - that there is a dynamo/alternator to charge the battery *and* supply the power for the accessories; as long as the engine is running (and in turn, activating the alternator), there is very little chance of running down the battery, unless the alternator is not doing its job. I suppose it is the the same ignorance that leads these truckers to indicate right as an indication to the vehicle behind them to overtake, as also putting the vehicle in neutral or switching the engine off going downhill (thinking they're saving fuel), which again, is dangerous practice, the latter especially if the vehicle is fitted with power-brakes. Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo. On Yahoo!7 Messenger - Make free PC-to-PC calls to your friends overseas. http://au.messenger.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
Fwd: [Goanet] Of Portuguese passports, migrants OCI status
Dear Admin, Once again I have to pull up Mario, his assertion whether true or not is uncalled for : A second rate European country like Portugal.this inflames many lusophiles. He doesn't like anyone criticising his beloved George Bush, whether it is correct or otherwise. Please take the appropriate action. -- Forwarded message -- From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03-Apr-2006 15:57 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Of Portuguese passports, migrants OCI status To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@goanet.org --- ralph rau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if considering staying on in India Goans should go ahead and get the Portuguese passport, which is a superior travel document, Mario asks: Wait a minute. Not so fast. Where did you get the idea that a passport from a second rate European country like Portugal is a superior travel document to that of an acknowledged future superpower like India? Can you please explain? Thank you. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP - Abrilachi 5vi, 2006!
Je konn sopnetat tankam Dev borvonso dita; sot mandteleank ochiriam. Je konn patietat tankan Dev kedinch khala ghalinam ani To tankam kedinch sanddinam. (God gives hope to those who dream; miracle to those who believe. God never lets down those who trust and He never leaves them.) Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
Re: [Goanet] New Marine Lines.
can u give me more precise info which place u talking about. --- eric pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone out there remember the beautiful homes on the stretch from the Mirabelle Hotel to the US Inf. Svc. liabrary -- all replaced by office buildings in the 70's. Netter Gerson DaCunha lived in one of them !! eric. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s __ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] Mahadayi talks fail
Mahadayi talks fail Deccan Herald - Internet Edition Wednesday, April 5, 2006 State isolated; others want tribunal over river dispute Mahadayi talks fail DH News Service New Delhi: The meeting, chaired by Union Water Resources Minister Saifuddin Soz, saw Karnataka all but isolated as the two other riparian states - Goa and Maharashtra - demanded the setting up of a tribunal, while Karnataka sought resolution of the dispute through negotiations. The Mahadayi river dispute in all likelihood, will be referred to a tribunal as a meeting of the basin states' chief ministers that the Centre convened on Tuesday to resolve the issue failed to bear fruit. The meeting, chaired by Union Water Resources Minister Saifuddin Soz, saw Karnataka all but isolated as the two other riparian states - Goa and Maharashtra - demanded the setting up of a tribunal, while Karnataka sought resolution of the dispute through negotiations. Coming out of the one-hour meeting where the three states made their respective presentations, Goa Chief Minister Pratapsinh Rane declared: The talks have failed to yield any result. Goa wants a tribunal to resolve the dispute. At the end of the meeting, Prof Soz told the states that he would individually speak to Mr Rane and announce his decision within 15 days. However, ministry sources said that in all likelihood, a new tribunal may be constituted to go into the issue. According to the Inter-State Water Disputes Act, the Centre should first hold negotiations with the riparian states and only on its failure, should it constitute a tribunal. If that happens, it would be the third such tribunal that Karnataka would be adding to its burden - it is already involved in defending its case before the Cauvery and Krishna tribunals. Addressing a press conference after the meeting, Chief Minister H D Kumaaraswamy said the State had waited for four years for the Mahadayi dispute to get resolved. I have no problems in waiting for 15 more days. Asked as to why Karnataka was getting embroiled in river disputes, the Chief Minister remarked: It seems everybody takes us for granted. Whenever water problems arise, our friendly neighbours try to override us. We have always co-operated with our neighbours and the Centre. At the meeting, Mr Kumaaraswamy pressed for the need to take up the route of negotiations saying that adjudication by the tribunal would be a time-consuming process which was not in the interest of any basin state. Noting that Karnataka should be allowed to take up the Kalasa-Bandurinala project since it was a drinking water scheme, he said the diversion being sought was not during lean but monsoon season. On behalf of the people of Karnataka, I earnestly appeal to party states and the Centre that pending determination of our equitable share, either by adjudication or negotiation, the abeyance order dated September 19, 2002, be immediately withdrawn and the in-principle clearance accorded on April 30, 2002, restored, he added. It may be recalled that the in-principle clearance was withdrawn following objections from Goa. Mr Kumaaraswamy said the yield in the Karnataka catchment was estimated at around 40-45 tmc. The yield of river Mahadayi, from its origin till it joined the sea, was estimated to be around 200 tmc. Presently the entire flow of water was going waste to the Arabian Sea, not utilised by any of the basin states, except a negligible quantity. The Goa Chief Minister objected to the project saying that the Mahadayi was a deficit basin and hence no diversion from it was acceptable to Goa. He also feared that if the dam was allowed, Karnataka would divert water for irrigation purposes. He said Goa would entirely use the Mahadayi water for drinking water purposes. Maharashtra Chief Minister Vilasrao Deshmukh told the meeting that he would go by the Goa stand since his state was not affected much in the dispute but depends upon Goa for .5 tmc of water. Maharashtra badly needs Goa's co-operation in the inter-state Tillari project for drinking water. The last inter-sate meeting among the party states was held on December 20, 2002, wherein it was decided that the reconciliation process and assessment of the yield should be completed by March 31, 2003. Accordingly, the Central Water Commission has completed its task of this assessment. http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/apr52006/index203825200644.asp ~(^^)~ Avelino _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] Re: Goan 'Kokno'
A few enlightenments from Mario (as usual). Thanks for informing me that Afra Dias is a she and that's her real name. Now I can sleep better though her posts often keep me awake. :=)) I did provide the official / cultural names for Goan Hindus and Catholics. So we are NOT Loosely speaking we are all Koknos. We are all accurately speaking Konkans. I hope someone can clarify this. Should I be apologizing to the existing College of ayatollahs? Do I detect a little discomfort from the grand ayatollah?:=)) In case any poster wonders what's this? Ayatollizing is the twenty-first century variation of pontificating undertaken by ayatollahs who are generally self-appointed or on occasion treated as such by their goanet devotees.:=)) Ayatollizing is not necessary the same as Huttonizing. Remember the phrase, When EF Hutton talks people listen. Regards, GL -Mario Goveia Cheap shot, Gilbert. I think YOU need to apologise. What he was complaining about was the derogatory use of the term Hindu boys by Afra Dias in her gratuitous and snide references to Fr. Eusebio's associations. Loosely speaking we are all Koknos. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kudos Elisabeth, You are on a fast-track to being an ayatollah. Kind Regards, GL --- Elisabeth Carvalho wrote: I hope you are not apologising on my behalf atleast. If you take the word Konkno out of the Konkani vocabulary, I'd be interested to know what you would replace it by. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] Re: Name-calling on Goanet
Am one of those silent Goanetters and have been a Goa-netter since 1996 and when the going gets unbearable, one conveniently unsubscribe. Like Dom and Francis and Fred have said, the mindless dribble that spills out of keyboards from the Bahamas to Toronto to Betalbatim...a question: do you ever think for a minute before you post? Is your post relevant, interesting or does it empower you? What, the internet is your new ...don't you have a life ? Does writing on Goanet your sole raison de etre? Sad. Very sad. The numerous posts from one poster beats me!!! Conveniently, one deletes posts from certain posters but really this shouldn't be. I imagine cyber space is a new concept for those who would aimlessly wander around the Panjim or Margao or Mupca Municipal gardens in search of and listening to and spilling mindless gossip about sweet nothings; its very Goan because nothing ever happens in Goa and time stands still (so romantic), there is hardly any entertainment except when Vasco play Dempo or ze Anton does the village spinster!! And true, you have carried your ways with you where ever it is you have now call home. So rather than troubling the Goanet admins, wouldn't it be best to ask your self a simple question: ...is it readable, does it merit a read. Be it your view on Tony Correa-Alfonso's reason for keeping an Indian passport (hey, he is a rich in family history and bank balance) or Malahar's description of taking his young son up the Moira hill or a few posts of your unmerited views. And you should wonder why the many interesting and colourful Goans, all part of GoanetDom, Thalman, Tony Correa-Alfonso, Nagesh, Bassalio Montero, Brian Mendonsa, Theotonioseldom post. These are the Goans one would rather read, hear them out, these are folks with an opinion and who can make Goanet interesting. We should be asking as to why there are only 7K subscribers? Are your posts so mindless and unreadable that there are people out there who'd rather stay-away? Or would they be avoiding you in the Margao, Pajim or Vasco municipal gardens if they saw you? Likely. And in my view, a few interesting posts make Goa net worthwhile rather than the constant bits of thoughtless posts from some obsessive compulsive. For those posters, you don't need the Goanet; you need a shrink!! An interesting development is the posts from Goan women: a lot of sensible, readable and offering an interesting view point. Goanet actually sum up the sad state (my view) Goa has come to be: a state and a people with nothing to look forward to, consumed by greed and living on memories of days gone by with no dreams, no vision and short-term dream of a quick-buck, no leadership and no shining stars one can proudly call amcho Goiemcho. And a political leadership with no morals, nor intellect and lacking in vision, and pathetic. Quoting Mario Miranda: Goa (he meant Goan culture, values, our unique way of life) will die in 5 years (1995). Maybe one thought this came from an old sentimental fool who lives and loves Goa musing on a warm Bombay evening after a couple of drinks. Maybe he was right. Pandu. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
RE: [Goanet] Goa's appalling road sense is not going to change
From: Mario Goveia Haven't you seen the sign behind every truck in India, BLOW HORN - PLEASE? Get it? PLEASE!!! Mario, The sign behind every truck, is in fact, HORN OK? The use of the question mark has often intrigued me One year, only after about a week, I realised that the horn of the car I had rented was not working. I had it seen to just in case. In my experience there is much less use of the horn in the last two years. Cheers Eddie _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
Re: [Goanet] Atheism
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I have no problem with atheism or humanism, only with aggressive evangelical atheists and humanists. Cornel, Do you think one can justify ideological aggression directed selectively against atheistic and humanistic evangelism, and not against religious evangelism, as practised by religious and political leaders? In fact, do you think one can justify aggression and evangelism based on ideology of any kind? Also, don't you think pacifist evangelism is much better than aggressive evangelism? Cornel, I would really appreciate your thoughts on these issues. Cheers, Santosh _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
Re: [Goanet] Is the term defrocked derogatory?
Gilbert, The Moderators ARE the Ethics Committee, are they not? All they have to do is their JOB more diligently, for which they will receive their reward in heaven:-)) However, I suspect they are not all on the same page, which is why some posts containing abuse and baseless calumny get posted, and often responses to those posts get flagged. Mario. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With all due respects to Peter D'Souza, his explanation to his question is rather lame. Perhaps his question is just exoteric. I am not claiming that Peter made a libelous post; since I do not follow all his or other posters' post. Yet, should the Goanet administration take a stronger stand on libelous post? If the Goanet administration feels it has enough on its plate, for a minimum it can have an Ethics Committee to look at posts in question. This would be a better solution than legal action. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
Re: [Goanet] Priest Murdered
--- afra dias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Afra saya, Why do you hanker over peoples names on the internet, do you want to go to their houses and break their windows, just because they do not agree with your views? Mario responds: Afra, At least you do not hide, like the person who hides behind the name JoeGoaUK, and others like him. This has nothing to do with whether they agree with me or not. I cannot go to their house and break their windows because I am not asking for their addresses, or any other personal information:-)) Those who agree with me are not afraid to disclose who they are. If they started hiding I would tell them the same thing. Why would anyone be afraid to put their names behind their opinions? What credibility can we give them? Are they afraid to be held responsible and accountablefor their opinions? Are they ashamed of their opinions? Afra writes: There is a saying that if you play with fire, you will get burnt. The priest was doing what he was not supposed to have been doing. He was a public figure therefore scrutinised by the public. Mario responds: You are continuing to embarrass yourself in public with these despicable and baseless insinuations about Fr. Eusebio, and your bigotry towards Hindu boys, even after people who know him have vouched for his stellar character and his charitable work in helping those in need. You don't even know the man. At the same time you are defending people who are hiding behind assumed names. Who know what THEY really are and what THEY are really up to. Who are YOU to decide what others are supposed to have been doing? Besides, he was doing nothing wrong. He was helping people who needed help. I'm sure he has helped plenty of Catholics as well. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] Re: Modern Death Announcements etc.. 'Every one goes to Heaven?'
The latest: In NT First Death Anniversary: ONE YEAR IN THE GARDEN OF REST Death Announcement: BORN TO ETERNAL LIFE For previously posted.. http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/message/451 [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ ___ Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with Yahoo!. Enter now. http://www.yahoo.co.uk/blackberry _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] Priest Murder Case (Final): LET'S FORGIVE THEM ALL.
Priest Murder Case: LET US FORGIVE THEM ALL I was really surprised to see the interest you shown in this case/update. When I last posted 'Meet Mr. Manish Mr.Amit', look how many of you read it. Within 2 hours of posting on Goan-nri group only, there were 94 hits. Within 3 hours (now also with Gulf-Goans group) there were 116 hits. within 4 hours it was now 135 hits within 8 hours it was 195 hits within 10 hrs it was 201 hits within 21 hrs it was 252 (also includes Goanet this time) As of now (in 2 days) the total hits rose to 324. I am glad too. See!! and you thought I am the only bad person here. Don't judge a person by his face or by his writings etc but judge by his heart. Remember, 'Every thing that shines is no gold' 'one picture is worth 1000 words' See here what I mean.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/122662091/ Repeat: As nothing was reported in today's local dailies, I thought I would introduce the two murderers (Manish Amit) of Fr. Eusebio Ferrao to you all. Meet them here.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/121723216/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ ___ Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with Yahoo!. Enter now. http://www.yahoo.co.uk/blackberry _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
Re: [Goanet] CORPORATIONS SHOULD BE RUN BY PROFESSIONALS
What aires means is the GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS. If you look at the Article 38 of our Party's constitution, we have eliminated the Office of Profit as early as in the year 2000 when the Party was formed. The constitution is available at www.goasu-raj.org for verification. Best regards - Original Message - From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 12:36 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] CORPORATIONS SHOULD BE RUN BY PROFESSIONALS Aires, Are you talking about public or government owned Corporations? How would you legally impose what you are suggesting in any private Corporation? Mario --- airesrod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Politics today is never a losing proposition. Profit or no profit our MPs and MLAs should not be allowed to head Corporations as well and further milk our barren exchequer. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
Re: [Goanet] Name-calling on Goanet...
To begin with, the moderators should MODERATE, which means they have to watch what certain posters write, and reject or send offensive posts back for changes, with private warnings where necessary. Especially abusive posts that cite no specifics, no opposing facts and opinions, simply snide and abusive personal references that don't add to the robust debate that is the lifeblood of such a forum as Goanet. Mario --- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frederick, Unfortunately, I am not a silent netter. But allow me to reiterate what I have said before. Please enforce Goanet rules. This is a moderated list. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] Final: Is the term defrocked derogatory?
Gabe Menezes wrote: Comment: Hello! So you do not see it as a derogatory term? persons/people are usually defrocked for breaking their professional code of conductto accuse someone who has not been defrocked is derogatory...okay mate? Gabe, Mervyn, Gilbert, Santosh, I appreciate your responses on the subject. I was merely questioning the use of the the term derogatory when referring to someone who has been defrocked. A question of semantics has morphed into an issue of a certain priest's status in the clergy. Please hear me out, this post is sarcasm-free. :-) For your information, I know nothing of the priest/ex-priest in question. I don't know his name, and I have no interest in doing so either. I have no reason to defend him or Chris on this matter, even though I have spoken in Chris' defense each time there's a campaign to smear him. (I will ignore comment on the last sentence.) If indeed the priest in question has not been defrocked, then Chris' comment should be called false, instead of derogatory. The one term clarifies fact, while the other imputes motive. Your responses, which were rather defensive--and for good reason, I've learnt--caught me by surprise, because I actually believe that the term defrocked does not have to be derogatory. Somebody could conceivably be defrocked for questioning Catholic doctrine, or for committing some form of highly principled clerical disobedience (marrying someone while in the priesthood, for example). In these cases, being defrocked for standing up for principle is nothing to be ashamed of, and using the term derogatory to describe such a defrocked priest would be inappropriate and demeaning to the individual who has suffered the consequences of taking a principled stand. As indicated in the subject line, this is my last post on the issue. Sincerely, Peter _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
Re: [Goanet] Of Portuguese passports, migrants OCI status
Ralph, I don't think Mario would understand that anyone from India seeking an exit with a Portuguese passport is effectively gaining entry into the expanding EU which is larger than the USA, population wise. Many with Portugueuse passports make a bee-line for the UK where the economy is booming currently and there are jobs aplenty even though the accommodation situation is dire. Secondly, that an EU passport allows easy movement to North America and indeed many other parts of the English speaking world world and indeed back to India if necessary. That India is potentially a major economic power is generally accepted. However, like China, it has a major population problem and the competition currently for higher education, employment etc notwithstanding the corruption, is intense. In India there is probably jam tomorrow but not yet today. If Mario thinks there is so much potential in a future Indian giant, why isn't he returning from the USA as some successful Indians now do, and why did he leave India in the first place? Sadly, there is a tendency among some of those who have gone abroad and established themselves, to remove the ladder for others. Mario does not seem to know that he is indeed doing just this through his daft advice/comment to you. Please don't get fooled by Mario. At most times he seems not to know when he is fooling himself. Cornel - Original Message - From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@goanet.org Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Of Portuguese passports, migrants OCI status --- ralph rau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if considering staying on in India Goans should go ahead and get the Portuguese passport, which is a superior travel document, Mario asks: Wait a minute. Not so fast. Where did you get the idea that a passport from a second rate European country like Portugal is a superior travel document to that of an acknowledged future superpower like India? Can you please explain? Thank you. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] A windy day...
Yesterday, April 3, was a windy day. It set a few random thoughts in motion After a number of hot (and worse, humid) days in Goa, it felt as if there was some celestal fan blowing pleasant winds to our part of the planet. I'm surely no met office expert, but it seems that what can be trying in Goa is the humidity that comes with this season, as high as in the nineties (percent). The only antidote is to cool down 2-3 times a day with a couple of jugs of water taking the place of a bath. From nothing more than calculated guesses, it would seem that our perception of the heat and cold depends not on the temperature alone, but also on the humidity levels, and wind factor. The latter is true specially of the cooler climes, perhaps. For instance, many years back, I was surprised to see that it was 38 degrees (Celsius) in Ahmedabad, and that wasn't as intolerable as, say, 35 degrees in Goa! The humidity makes the difference. In Stockholm, I felt terribly cold on seeing the huge clocktower saying it was 13 deg C, but during a winter visit to Delhi, we found it hardly too cold at single degree temperatures, and that too without any heating of any sort. With the decrease in greenery in many areas, getting in airconditioners, which add further to global warming, is surely no sustainable solution for Goa. The other day, it was interesting to read St Xavier's Higher Secondary Section (Mapusa) principal Mervyn D'Souza say that parts of Assagao were five degrees cooler, because of the heavy tree cover that was once in the area! It is nice to see people in Goa once again taking a growing interest (pun intended) in growing trees, rather than just decorative plans. And, nowadays, one has a number of sources from where to source these plants from. Both government and non-government. Maybe I'm just growing supersitituous with age, and I'm sure people with great faith in modern (read Western) scientific values -- now, this is deliberately being provocative -- like Dr Santosh Helecar, would frown on my attitude. But in recent years, I've come round to the position that the moon does influence our weather patterns (and human moods too, not just of the few we label insane... but that is another issue). Likewise, the lunar-based Hindu calendar is interesting in the way it gives you an insight into weather patterns. Don't agriculturists in Goa sow seed going by the phases of the moon? Or, the omas and punov, as it is locally called? Perhaps, there's some science in the way life gets influenced by the pulls and influence of the planets. (I don't extend this logic far enough to believe in astrology, though.) Take a look at how the weather changes around the Shigmo (Hindu new year period). Maybe it was just a coincidence, but I've seen this happen for the past two years in succession. At the beginning of each year, one tends to pick up a Devanagari (usually Marathi) calendar, that lists the months as per the Indian system (lunar-based), and the phases of the moon. My only regret is that the Goa-published calendars seem to have largely closed down. Borkars' from Margao used to come out with one. But big players like Kalnirnay from Maharashtra have probably eaten up a large chunk of the market. The additional advantage was that the local calendars covered all the zatras and major (Catholic) feast days from Goa too, which was useful. Talking about the weather only reminds you how information-poor we are in our supposedly advanced (by Indian standards) Goa. And don't tell me things were better in the Portuguese days! Or am I wrong :-) One recalls the date last year -- April 20 -- when cyclonic winds hit Goa around 7.30 pm in the evening. Some of us who were at one of the programmes organised by the Fundacao Oriente were surprised by the doors of the impressive office banging with the breeze. But we didn't have a clue of what was coming, and only later realised about the seriousness of the weather disturbance. Our part of Goa had its power restored only after 36 hours, a few hundred trees fell, and there was damage to life and property. All in all, our authorities do a poor job in keeping the citizen informed about the weather. In these days of Google Earth, weather-via-the-Net (an icon sitting on my GNU/Linux desktop and Firefox browser tells me that Goa today is partly cloudly, 95degC wind SSW 3 mph) we could do with a better deal. FN -- -- Frederick 'FN' Noronha | Yahoomessenger: fredericknoronha http://fn.goa-india.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Independent Journalist | +91(832)2409490 Cell 9822122436 -- Photographs from Goa: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/popular-views/ _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
RE: [Goanet] Goa's appalling road sense is not going to change
--- Eddie Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use a self-drive car during my annual visit to Goa and though I have a British Driving licence, I decided to apply for one in Goa in order to acquire yet another local identity document. The test was absolutely pathetic. In the oral part the examiner asked me what I should do before overtaking. I listed the checks I would make but he was not satisfied and kept on repeating the question. I listed a few more cautions but he was still not content. I finally gave up and asked him what else I should do. Blow the horn, BLOW THE HORN, he screamed in my ear. Mario observes: Eddie, First of all, kudos for driving yourself, which shows you have some cajones. Most expats are too afraid to drive in India. Many locals are afraid as well. But I found your comments above hilarious. Those of you who expect these attitudes to change in India are as CRAZY as every driver in India, even those who become perfectly normal and reasonable citizens as soon as they park their cars. As soon as you people realize that the only rule in India is not to hit anything, then maybe you will all relax and live longer. Eddie, the horn blowing is MANDATORY, to tell everyone else that there's another MANIAC in the vicinity that they need to watch out for:-)) Haven't you seen the sign behind every truck in India, BLOW HORN - PLEASE? Get it? PLEASE!!! _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] Ticket-Gate
REPEATED ODI ENTRANCE TICKET SCAMS I fail to understand why the Scam of tickets cheating case in the last India Australia ODI at the same venue, has not been actioned and justice delivered to date! In July 2001, chargesheets for cheating,forgery, criminal conspiracy were officialy made by the Police. Justice is still taking its course? This is shameful indeed. So the same thing gets repeated again with impunity? It is reported that more than 300 ticket holders were denied entry as stadium was full! Not even one citizen who held a valid ticket must sit quiet. There is a Consumer Court existing just for you. Please do go and file your case for deficiency in service.You are entitled for full refund AND compensation . That is the very least you must do. I trust the media will follow up and help our government to get up and walk to help Justice prevail a little faster for the common man who gets no free passes! John Eric Gomes Porvorim (Tel 2417837) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] Fun and Excitement at One-day Match - Exclusive Pics
News -- Goa-Fatorda: Fun and Excitement at One-day Match - Exclusive Pics from Rajtilak Naik Daijiworld News Network - Goa http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=20058n_tit=Goa%2DFatorda%3A+Fun+and+Excitement+at+One%2Dday+Match+%2D+Exclusive+Pics+from+Rajtilak+Naik -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] LEOPARD ALARMS MIRAMAR RESIDENTS
Strange but true. With Goa turning into a concrete jungle, needless to say wild animals could as well be the pedestrians of the future. An indication of things to come was this incident that alarmed the inhabitants of the high profile locale of Miramar Panaji Goa within the precincts of Corporation of City of Panaji. This early morning while students and office goers were on their daily chores a leopard straying around Miramar finally landed into a residential apartment HOME STEAD of the Menons at Miramar. According to a top official of the office of Conservator of Forests who this writer had a teletalk with +91 0832 2223508, the leopard could have as well come from the nearby Aguada side and swam across the waters and made its way after meandering thro the Miramar area at early morning. According to him there are areas in Bardez which are witness to such leopards prowling, To a question --whether this could be a domesticated one apparently set lose by the owners ---fearing the change of guard expected in the office today with the arrival of the new incumbent Chief Conservator of Forest Mr Richard D Souza IFS who is likely to take charge,( following his transfer to Goa from Arunacahal Pradesh ), he stated that though it is illegal to domesticate such animals classified under Schedule I of the Wild Life Act 1972 atleast this one did not appear to look like one domesticated and had to be tranquilised before being nabbed and sent to the Bondla zoo. It may be recalled that during the earlier termof Mr Richard D Souza IFS in Goa as Conservator of Forests during the BJP led coalition regime, the first thing that he did was to raid all places where such prohibited animals under Wild Life Act were domesticated by people of Goa. All such animals were confiscated from these unauthorise owners and taken to the Bondla zoo. This earned the wrath of many animal lovers, though Mr D Souza was shunted out of the State after a brief innings for other reasons. It is believed that the mining lobby then feared his functioning strictly by the rule book and so that he was booted out. Efforts to contact the inmate of the house Ms Angelica Menon on +91 0832 2461143 in whose house the wild animal was found early morning by the howling of her dog were futile. Meanwhile when this writer spoke to an animal lover in South Goa who had suffered a similar fate at the hands of Mr D Souza, he agreed that this may not have been a domesticated one by the owners of the house, where it was found, but did not rule out the possibility of the leopards being domesticated by others and subsequently released out of fear of being raided-- He agreed that though one would need to excercise great caution to keep leopards as it eas necessary to keep them away from other feline genre. There was yet another animal lover who agreed that there might be a coincidence with the leopard being found and the arrival of Mr Richard D Souza in Goa. He is sure that there will be a notice issued by him directing all animal lovers in the State to surrender the all animals prohibited from being domesticated as included in the Schedule I of WLA. At the same time he wondered how the Government could fill the zoo at Bondla with domesticated animals from private owners. Does the law distinguish from Government as the owner and private individuals in matters of domestication? How then can they put such animals in its zoo? Ironically some four years ago there was a board at Bondla indicating that most of the animals held at Bondla were confiscated from private owners. GODFREY J I GONSALVES BORDA MARGAO GOA 9822158584 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] indo-french exercises
Hi, Im just an old navy veteran minding my own business and sitting under the shade of an old coconut tree at 0940 this morning in South Goa, sipping my coffee and keeping out of my wifes way, and trying to avoid all those contentious debates on Goanet as well, when I hear the scream of jets overhead and watch 2 fighter bombers overfly my house at low level. My eyes are still good enough to recognise them as SUPER ETENDARTS of the French Navy, based on the carrier CHARLES DE GAULLE, flying seaward, after a low level strike on Dabolim airport. Whats happenned to our Navy, because there should have been 2 Sea Harriers on their tails? Are they only playing Golf or football,or sitting on their backsides, as Churchill Alemao and all his pals have been saying to all the taxi drivers ,at all these *MOPA* public meetings all over South Goa ? Well, heres what I found out. The French carrier, which was 700 miles NE of Goa, the night before, made a high speed dash towards Goa during the night and launched 2 strikes of 4 aircraft this morning,to destroy the runaway at Dabolim at a range of 250 miles from Goa.. Our Kamov AWACS helicopter, which had been launched from the deck of one of our frigates operating off Goa earler in the morning, detected the incoming strike about 100 miles out of Goa, and 2 Sea Harriers , on CAP, were vectored to intercept, which they succesfully did. The French pilots were then permitted to have a close look at the Benaulim and Colva beach , on their outward leg , back to the CHARLES DE GAULLE. Why do I write this? Three reasons-firstly, our Navy is the most powerful in the region, and one which is admired worldwide as being thoroughly professional. Secondly, we could never dream of seeing foreign fighter aircraft overflying our territory--we are now getting truly globalised, and India is taking its rightful place among the comity of nations. Lastly, as a Goan, Im proud that Goa is an important cog in our nations defence. regards, Gilbert Menezes. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] TSKK Konknni Competitions
THOMAS STEPHENS KONKNNI KENDR B.B. Borkar Road, Alto Porvorim, Goa - 403 521, INDIA Phone: (0832) 2415857, 2415864 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] April 4, 2006 Sir, Kindly give publicity to the following press release. Thanking you, Yours truly, Dr. Pratap Naik, S.J. Executive Director TSKK KONKNNI COMPETITIONS In the year 2006, the Jesuit Order celebrates the triple jubilees of three of their comrades. On April 7, 2006, birth of St. Francis Xavier: 500 years; on 13 April birth of Blessed Peter Faber: 500 years; and on 31 July death of St. Ignatius de Loyola, the founder of the Jesuit Order: 450 years. Besides these on 6 September 2006, 450 will be completed for the first printing press in India which was brought to Goa by the Jesuit missionaries on 6 September 1556. The first Konknni book was printed in that press during the period 1556 to 1561 in Roman script. To commemorate these important events in Goa, Thomas Stephens Konknni Kendr (TSKK) will organize the following competitions in Konknni. Category A: Konknni Short Story Competition Category B: Konknni Song Competition Category C: Konknni One Act Play Competition Rules: These competitions are open to all. Topic or theme for these competitions is Francis Xavier friend of the poor The length of the Short story should be between 2000 - 2500 words. The length of the Song should be between 75 - 100 words. Musicians should be able to compose music for this song. Therefore it should not be a mere free verse type of poem. One Act Play should be of 20 - 30 minutes duration. The entries to these competitions could be written in Konknni either in Roman script or Devanagari script. Those who send entries in Devanagari script should follow the writing rules of TSKK. These writing rules are available at TSKK. Do not write your name on the competition material. Write your name and complete address, phone numbers, e-mail ID on a covering letter which has to be attached to each entry. One can take part in more than one category. However, one could send only one entry for each of the categories A or B or C. The entries should be either written with a neat handwriting or typed on one side of the paper leaving sufficient margins on both sides of the paper. E-mail entries will not be considered. Prizes: Category A: First: Rs. 2,000/-; Second: Rs. 1,500/-; Third: Rs. 1,000/- Category B: First: Rs. 750/-;Second: Rs. 500/-; Third: Rs. 250/- Category C: First Rs. 4,000/-; Second: Rs. 3,000/-; Third: Rs. 2,000/- Consolation prizes will be given to deserving entries. TSKK will have the copy right of the Prize winning and consolation prize entries. The last date for the entries to reach TSKK Office will be 31 August 2006. Prize distribution ceremony will be held in the month of October 2006. The decision of TSKK shall be final. No further correspondence on this matter will be entertained. The entries should be sent to the following address: Konknni Competitions THOMAS STEPHENS KONKNNI KENDR B.B. Borkar Road, Alto Porvorim, Goa - 403 521, INDIA Phone: (0832) 2415857, 2415864 _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] How capital account convertibility will change your life
This article can be accessed at: http://markets.moneycontrol.com/india/newsarticle/stocksnews_newsletter.php?autono=207463 == While the obvious uptake of this would mean more foreign money coming in, what does it mean for the common man? How will our life change if and when it becomes a reality? On March 21st, the RBI set the ball rolling on full capital account convertibility (CAC) of the rupee by setting up a committee to chalk out a road map. The committee will begin work from May 1, 2006 and is expected to submit its report by July 31, 2006. While the obvious uptake of this would mean more foreign money coming in, this will also allow local companies to tap foreign markets more easily. However, what does CAC mean for the common man? How will our life change if and when CAC becomes a reality? For that, let us understand what CAC exactly means. Basically CAC implies freedom to convert local currency into foreign currency and vice versa, for any purpose whatsoever, without needing any permission from the government. The term any purpose whatsoever is important, for as of now India is convertible on the current account. This means one can import and export goods or receive or make payments for services rendered. However, investments and borrowings are restricted. Therefore, let us try and understand the implications of CAC from the viewpoint of both an NRI as well as a Resident. CAC for NRIs Our NRI diaspora will benefit tremendously if and when CAC becomes a reality. The reason is on account of current restrictions imposed on movement of their funds. As has been mentioned in these columns before, no one is born an NRI. An NRI becomes an NRI when he leaves India for a job or doing business abroad. Now what happens is that in the process, he may leave his Indian assets behind --- investments and monies that he owned when he was an Indian Resident. Though such funds and assets can be moved abroad, there are some rules and restrictions. Though an NRI may remit an amount up to $ 1 million per calendar year, out of his NRO account for all bonafide purposes, to the satisfaction of the banker, for any such remittance, an undertaking from the remitter and a certificate from a chartered accountant is required. For property, there is a lock-in of ten years. In other words, sale proceeds of a house that has been purchased using rupee funds, cannot be repatriated unless such house is owned for ten years. Then there are various documentary evidences that need to be submitted to the banker for proving that the purpose is bonafide. For example, if the money is required for medical purposes, a bill or an estimate form the overseas hospital or the doctor is required. If its for education purposes, the I-20 or letter from the university along with the estimated fees would need to be submitted. Even for assets brought out of foreign exchange which ordinarily should have full repatriability some restrictions creep in. For example, take real estate purchased out of foreign exchange. An NRI can repatriate funds representing the sale proceeds of only two such properties in his entire lifetime!! CAC will eliminate these difficulties. Implications of CAC for a Indian Resident As most readers would know, as of now, we Residents cannot freely move money abroad. There are certain allowable limits beyond which permission from RBI is needed. The table lists the specific limits for purposes generally applicable. Purpose Limit per annum Private visit abroad$10,000 Business Travel $25,000 Gifts / Donations$5,000 each For persons going abroad for employment $1,00,000 For persons emigrating abroad$1,00,000 For maintenance of close relatives $1,00,000 For studies abroad $1,00,000 or as per fee requirement For general purpose including investments $25,000 As far as I am concerned, these limits are already quite liberal. Even if I wanted to I would not be able to use any additional funds allowed. Simply because I cant afford it. However, for those who harbour ambitions of buying a villa in the south of France or a studio apartment in Manhattan, I appreciate that $25,000 would be pocket change. Also, according to some Richie Riches, the limit for private travel is dismal and should increase at least ten fold. In any case, the point here is that for the average person, CAC may not have a direct benefit. However, there could be indirect advantages. CAC would attract more FDI, more investments and a greater choice of products and services than are available currently. Therefore, in terms of quality of life and variety of products, both investment and consumer, CAC is something we all can look forward to. Last point. The term any purpose whatsoever implies any legal purpose whatsoever. The laws of the land still stand irrespective of CAC. Therefore, things such as participation in online lotteries, or buying drugs or even subscription say to Mr. Hugh
Re: [Goanet] Accident at Guirim, innocent lives lost
Comments: When I was returning home after addressing the Anti-Mopa meeting at Cortalim on April fool's day, a one-eyed trailer truck, similar to the one in this accident case or perhaps the same truck was trying to overtake my Maruti 800 from O'Coqueiro to the Mapusa Junction where I take the right to go off the NH-17. Believe me it was at times, bumper to bumper running. I become adamant when I see rash driving and immediately reduce or increase my speed so that the vehicle behind cannot rashly overtake. Unfortunately, I couldn't jot down the registration number. It did occur to me later that I should have done that and alerted the non-existent traffic police of Goa especially after 6 P.M. It is believed that the same truck had a hit and run case at Banda a few days ago. I shall be calling the Mapusa police to find out if it was on 1st. April, 2006. If it is, and approximately at 10 P.M. or around that time, then the responsibility for this accident and the deaths must be fixed absolutely and categorically on the Goa Police because if they had caught this trucker with just one head-light, 2 days ago, this tragedy would not have happened and 2 Goans would not have lost their lives. I just got on to the Mapusa Police Station. It is confirmed that the truck responsible for this accident has a hit and run case at Banda before it came into Goa. That the drivers put off one head-lights in the nights to save on the battery. Therefore, I have asked the police person who was on the line if the police is not sleeping on the job. He accepts that and has the gall to say that it is the Traffic Police. Ha' Ha' I just tried to get the SP Traffic Mr. A.V. Despande on the line (Ph. 2426580/ 9822486565. Since I was not getting him on his mobile, I called the Office number. I am told that he is presently attending a meeting with the Collector. Rightly so, his mobile is off. I asked to speak to his junior the DY. S.P. The constable Bicholkar tells me that he too is not around. Therefore I spoke to Bicholkar himself. He confirmed that the truckers are putting off one head-light to save the battery. When asked why these guys are not challaned, he has the cheek to tell me that the traffic police do not have duty in the night. To that I shouted and told him to tell his boss to send all the traffic cops on leave during the day too because we do not need them if they cannot mind the roads at night where our Goans get cut down more during the night than during day time. I just can't wait to get the ears of the SP traffic himself. floriano goasuraj Check-out the Road Map for Goa at www.goasu-raj.org, the Road Safety at Chapter VII (5) - Original Message - From: Jee Rebello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 12:11 PM Subject: [Goanet] Accident at Guirim, innocent lives lost Saftey on Roads in Goa. Another fatal accident in Guirim, near Tiklo Pump, and two more innocent lives, father and the son have perished under the wheels of a sppeding truck. The mother, another girl and a young child still struggling for life in the hospital. Apparently, the truck that knocked off the Maruti, carrying the ill- fated family, was in high speed and riding on the wrong side of the driving zone with only one of its head lights functioning. Why such disasters keep happening on roads in Goa? Why is that nobody is doing anything about it? Why this inefficient government, the NGOs or the public in Goa is not doing anything to save the precious lives? why can't the authoraties, I mean the traffic department and the govt. cannot do atleast the minumum? Is Mr. Madkaikar, the transport minister busy only making illegal money. Why at least they don't try to do the following? 1. Try to inculcate disciplined driving through awareness and also by geuinely imposing regular fines. At least by cunsensus, keep curruption out of ticketing and during petrolling on roads! 2. Marking lanes on high streets and imposing heavy fines for the offenders. 3. Police petrolling during night time to catch the offenders such as the truck in the above case. 4. Imposing safety restrictions such as using safety belts, helmets, side indicators, etc. And to see that people follow these rules or impose heavy fines and confiscate the vehicles. And strictly following trafic rules. 5. Why is that govt. after govt. is trying to outdo one another to be populist and friendly to a careless rider at the cost of public safety. Please the Govt. of Goa do something, save innocent lives being crushed uner the wheels on the streets of goa. Goanneters, your family members and friends, please ride your vehicles safely, use all the saftey devices and strictly follow the trafic rules. Please spread the message. Regards Yyuki _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] The last Howl from the Cross - (An article on Goan artist F N Souza)
This article appeared in the Examiner www.the-examiner.org == Last Howl from the Cross On the eve of Holy Week, on April 6, by a most curious coincidence, a Crucifixion painting by the internationally acclaimed Goan artist Francis Newton Souza (1924-2002) will go under the hammer at Bonhams, New Bond Street, London. The expected price is a whooping Rs 2.33 crore. The macabre painting is of a crucified Christ drawn in 1963. Souzas images of Christ retain a dual streak. On the one hand, the thick bounding lines, the frontal images, and the stiff demeanor are iconic, on the other hand, these are harshly, even malevolently subverted without any redeeming features. The humanity in the figures is totally eclipsed by a seething, writhing violence. The sharp razor-like teeth, inhuman eyes and slashing, stabbing lines that constitute the body of Christ evoke a sense of revulsion rather than piety. He wears a crown of thorns, His ghoulish face with fang-like teeth create a sinister apparition. His androgynous slackers seem caught out of time. During this phase, he found metaphors for violence that he experienced in his personal life, the fall of mankind and the entrapment of the human spirit. He was a serious man, who was not taken seriously in India. His themes were a dark look at life, which he forced us to confront. He died in Bombay and Fr Joe DAbreo was requested to conduct the last rites at Sewri. When I briefed Fr Joe about the man he was about to be buried, Fr Joe was amazed and said he was privileged to partake in this burial. And yet people are willing to pay 2.33 crores for his painting and invariably the purchaser will not be a Christian! But Souza and his paintings have that effect on people. Twenty years ago, in 1985, when I was interviewing Souza for an article for the EXAMINER, he warned me that the Catholic Weekly would never put him in print. But he hadnt reckoned with the broadminded attitude of Msgr Benny Aguiar, the then editor, who splashed my article in the weekly, much to Souzas amusement. Souzas ability to transfer his erotic-religious feelings into a mutual discipline of expressionist drawing and pigment handling, brought him international acclaim by the 1950s. He lived in Crawford Market with his mother, in whose womb he had started painting even before he was born, was his favourite phrase while introducing himself. He left India in July 1949 after the police raided his studio in search of obscene paintings. St Xaviers expelled him because he was suspected of doing obscene graffiti in the toilet. He had not done it, but when he went to inspect it, he found the drawing so poor that he improved upon it! He was our family friend, and some time ago when Cardinal Pimenta was with us in Khandala, I reminded him that I had three friends listed in the International Whos Who. J R D Tata, F N Souza, and the Cardinal, who continues to be listed in this ultimate compendium. Souzas Pieta, Original Sin, Last Supper (1959), Death of the Pope (1962), Christ (1986) and numerous other Christian paintings all reflect his Judeo-Christian concept which he put down to his strong Portuguese-Christianity of Christ Christ bleeding, the crown, the flogging which made him very guilty as a student and so he used to confess to the priest. He met his first wife, also a Goan- Marie Figuerado when she bought his painting the Ave Maria for Rs. 48. Many of his early paintings like the Cathedral Altar, reflected the mystic power and splendor of the Indian Catholic Churches in Goa. The Crucifixion has been a fixation with painters down the ages. This passionate storytelling had invited immense creativity and the results have bombarded the art world. Christs death asks us to search out narratives and, through them, to question what we know and what we imagine. This week dealers in London and all over the world will be bidding for another Christ fixation, clamoring to put this painting on their walls and collectors will be writing huge cheques to snap this painting up. By Jude H Gomes === Joseph Fernandes Mumbai __ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] The NRI Meet in Dubai -- My Take (Part II and Last)
The NRI Meet in Dubai -- My Take (Part II and last) by Eugene Correia A student said she wanted to join the medical college in Goa but she had to pay Rs 25 lakhs for admission. I am not sure if she said these fees were for students of NRI parents under NRI quota. Dourado joked that paying so much would mean she won't have anything remaining for her dowry. When Dourado began his replies at the end of the question session, the student was gone. He explained that there is now an entrance test for all students, no matter what they score at the exams. He said he would check with the authorities and asked participants if they could contact the student so he could get her email. A paper was circulated to get each of the participants' email but obviously she left before she could put her's down. Dourado, as quoted by the paper, slammed the visit of previous NRI members, obviously the one led by Keni, the chairman. No doubt Keni and other members came on invitation, but I didn't see any reason why Dourado had to criticize the group. I think Dourado is coveting Keni's post. Though Dourado and Keni, along with the other members, owe it to the Parikar government for being on the executive committee, I don't know if Keni enjoyed or enjoys the BJP support. Now that the political regime has changed and Dourado being a Congressman, it won't be a surprise if Keni is kicked out and Dourado takes his place. From my attendance of the 2005 Gomant Vishwa Sammellan, I could see tensions between the Catholic members and the Hindu members of the executive committee. There was lot of backbiting. I wish anyone who attended this year's convention could throw more light on the proceedings. Maybe goanet carried some posts on it and I obviously missed it. The Keni group was entertained in Dubai by one of the goanetters who is no longer active on this forum. I must say that the informal gathering at the goanetter's place was much cordial and interactive than the one that was conducted by the Dourado group. There was the secretary taking notes, unlike at this meeting where all three were taking notes. Brigadier D'Costa spoke saying that we must proceed forward and lot look back. He said that as a soldier he always keeps hopes. When I asked him in private before the meeting on the general NRI scene in Goa, he said there were some associations and they were confusion among them. Dourado also lectured on unity among NRI Goans, and at one point remarked that if there are three Goans, there are four associations. This is hackneyed remark. One of the participants suggested that NRGs should form pressure groups to influence the government. Well, the reason the NRI Facilitation Centre is set up is precisely to act as a pressure or lobby on behalf of NRGs. Besides, there's an advisory committee, on which the Kuwait representative is Wilson Coelho, who organized the meeting there. There's one Joaquim D'Souza for Dubai, but he obviously wasn't present at the meeting. No information was given whether he was contacted by the group, since it was Pravin who worked to put the meet together. These representatives are supposed to gather complaints and forwarded it to the centre. The Emirates Post reporter George asked Dourado if they had contacted the Indian consulate, and Dourado said no. I think if Dourado or Pravin had asked the consulate for space to hold a meeting, I am sure it would have been granted. George also said there is no Goan officer in the consulate as there are from other communities to deal with respective community groups in Dubai. Dourado seemed amazed and said it could be a coincidence that there are officers belonging to different ethnic groups, as he had not aware that this is the norm in selecting these officers. George is a former media advisor to the Indian embassy in Abu Dhabi. When Dourado said that the political scene in Goa is such there is corruption, George asked him if he could go on record. Dourado tried to wriggle out of the situation saying he has to tell the people the truth but doesn't want to be quoted. He said that the media wasn't invited for the meeting, and though George came on his own will on reading about the meeting in the Gulf News, Dourado welcomed him. He told George to understand the situation when reporting about the meeting. It was George who suggested that the Goa government think about starting a steamer service to meet the demand of the NRGs since there is only an Air India direct flight to Goa. The Indian Airlines fly to Goa via Kerala. Dourado explained that the airlines being commercial they would rightly seek to know the if it was financial viable for the airlines to increase direct flights, in the case of Air India, or start new ones instead of going via Kerala. Dourado said he, along with Dr. Willy, was responsible in having a direct flight from Kuwait to Goa. On the question of identity cards for NRGs, Dourado said they should apply for PIO cards. I informed him that PIO cards are only for
[Goanet] Re: Goa's appalling road sense - 2
Tne Commandments for the road, from the Christian Road Safety Association (cited by Summon's Christian Miscellany: An Amusingly Informative Collection of Unexpected Facts, Curiosities, and Trivia, Doubleday 2005): * Begin with a prayer * If you start late, arrive late. * Alcohol is for the radiator, not the operator. * If entry into the flow of traffic is facilitated by the courtesy of another driver, wave in appreciation. * If you have inadvertently endangered the safe passage of another vehicle, wave as an apology. * Make it easy for aggressive opportunity snatchers to get ahead of you -- far ahead. * Drive so that the sudden appearance of a police patrol car is a pleasant sight. * Give plenty of space to cars marked with dents. * Never accelerate, and decelerate if advisable, when another car wishes to enter your lane. * End every trip with a prayer of thanksgiving. This may not be enough to solve Goa's serious road woes (why can't we have more cops stationed on accident prone roads, instead of tagging along with politicians whom no one would even waste a bullet on?). But it's an interesting way of inculcating road-sense. And, I'm saying so because of the religious tag it comes with... -- -- Frederick 'FN' Noronha | Yahoomessenger: fredericknoronha http://fn.goa-india.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Independent Journalist | +91(832)2409490 Cell 9822122436 -- Photographs from Goa: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/popular-views/ _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
RE: [Goanet] Goa's appalling road sense - 2
Folks, Valmiki Faleiro has provoked a fascinating discussion, in particular with regard to the driving test and overtaking. I feel that the main problem with the driving test in Goa is the local practice of driving schools charging learners a flat fee with a guaranteed licence at the end of the course. The learners receive minimal instruction and the driving schools bribe the examiners to pass the candidates. With the low fees charged it is the only way they can survive. If driving schools were compelled to charge fees per lesson it would improve standards. The schools would have a vested interest in preparing candidates thoroughly and the incidence of bribery would decrease. I use a self-drive car during my annual visit to Goa and though I have a British Driving licence, I decided to apply for one in Goa in order to acquire yet another local identity document. The test was absolutely pathetic. In the oral part the examiner asked me what I should do before overtaking. I listed the checks I would make but he was not satisfied and kept on repeating the question. I listed a few more cautions but he was still not content. I finally gave up and asked him what else I should do. Blow the horn, BLOW THE HORN, he screamed in my ear. I told him that I did not see the need to do so since I would only overtake when it was safe to do so and in any case I did not like adding to the noise pollution. The rest of the test was completed in a tense atmosphere and perhaps he did not take me through the full practical routine. I was not asked to perform a three point turn, hill start or reverse parking. I was surprised to pass the test. I too have had Gabriel's experience of indicating an intention of turning right and it being interpreted as a signal for a vehicle behind to overtake me. One tip regarding driving in Goa - with long drives and in rural areas wherever possible I drive behind another vehicle. This is particularly useful at night to avoid the glare of full headlights from oncoming traffic. One feature that does puzzle me is the total absence of traffic lights in Goa, even at busy road junctions. Unmarked road breakers are used sometimes and they are a hazard to those not familiar to their location. Traffic lights are common in other parts of India. Why not in Goa? Cheers, Eddie Fernandes London _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] Was the NRI Meet in Goa 30 or 31 March?
Folks, Thanks of the detailed report of the Dubai meeting, Eugene. We are looking forward to reading the part 2 etc. Last week we had a message on GoaNet with the subject line: NRIs NRGs meeting on Friday, March 31, 2006 at 11:00 am The Body of the message had: On Thursday, March 30, 2006 at 11:00 am NRIs NRGs will meet Mr. Eduardo Faleiro ... At the time I was surprised that no one on GoaNet queried the discrepancy regarding the dates Could someone who attended the meeting send in a report, please? I have checked the http://www.goa500.com/ site and have been unable to find any record of it. Also what is the status of the Goa500 NRI Township featured on the site? Cheers Eddie Fernandes _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
Re: [Goanet] Re: Is the term defrocked derogatory?
Is this the same gentleman ex-priest who rushed up to me belligerently at the Goan Association meeting/picnic on June 19, 2005 at Orchard Beach in the Bronx and screamed in front of the assembled membership I'll f--k you! for questioning the propriety of railroading the constitution with a sham election and with no other provocation from me whatsoever? Was this exhuberance on his part because he was seeking the position of president for himself instead of the konknno I was backing? If so, he is some gentleman ex-priest in true Christian tradition! And while we're on the subject, would the poster care to tell us why the ex priest defrocked himself by leaving the ministry? Chris - Original Message - From: Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@goanet.org Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Re: Is the term defrocked derogatory? Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Mervyn. The dictionary definition doesn't seem to support your basic contention. While it's not a matter of pride for anyone who's been through it (the process of defrocking), it seems like a purely technical description. http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?gwp=13s=defrocked de·frock (dÄ-frÅk') tr.v., -frocked, -frock·ing, -frocks. 1. To strip of priestly privileges and functions. 2. To deprive of the right to practice a profession. 3. To deprive of an honorary position. Peter, Your question did not come out of the blue. You brought up the query AFTER Cris Vaz/Joy Braganza described someone as defrocked. The person being labelled a defrocked priest is actually an ex-priest. There is a difference. Everyone who has met the ex-priest, describes him as the perfect gentleman. Chris Vaz/Joy Braganza is perfectly aware that the ex-priest has not been defrocked. To label him defrocked when he is not, is derogatory. Mervyn3.0 The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their right names. - Chinese proverb - __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] Re: Modern Death Announcements etc.. 'Every one goes to Heaven?'
Joe In your brief post, you missed out Limbo! Is it because you knew that Limbo had recently been abolished by the Pope? But then, where have all the previous Limboites gone to? Any thoughts on this conundrum? Cornel _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] DABOLIM (part 1)
Hello Gilbert. Thanks. After a long time a fair portrayal of what MOPA is all about. It is impossible to think otherwise what benefits one gets unless portrayed in a fair way. During Portuguese time, many batkars came about, and now it will be the second coming of batkars who have purchased plots near and about in Pernem Taluka, but the benefits as you have shown are vast. Only hope Goans will be the beneficiaries if Mopa Comes about. Cheers Jerry Fernandes _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] Pre and Post 1961 Goa
Hello Bonefacio, Well said. I have not seen the Portuguese system as I was born six months before hey left, hence very young but when older people tell, and it seems so wonderful and especially when we as young used to leave our doors open even at night during summers, which is impossible now, makes one feel, fuinsor gelet tor te adle dis?. As for your last part of dancing in schools, well, even our republic day parade on 26th January, in Delhi the float of Goa this year had this dance and it got second prize. Wonder what Correia Afonso must have said when he saw it. Wonder why Goa is so different from other coastal belts like Kerela. Why do tourists find Goa different? Do Goa have better beaches than Kerela? I for one believe that its because of the culture, the western culture which is instilled in Goans who unknowingly utilize it. Cheers Jerry Fernandes _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] Accident at Guirim, innocent lives lost
Saftey on Roads in Goa. Another fatal accident in Guirim, near Tiklo Pump, and two more innocent lives, father and the son have perished under the wheels of a sppeding truck. The mother, another girl and a young child still struggling for life in the hospital. Apparently, the truck that knocked off the Maruti, carrying the ill- fated family, was in high speed and riding on the wrong side of the driving zone with only one of its head lights functioning. Why such disasters keep happening on roads in Goa? Why is that nobody is doing anything about it? Why this inefficient government, the NGOs or the public in Goa is not doing anything to save the precious lives? why can't the authoraties, I mean the traffic department and the govt. cannot do atleast the minumum? Is Mr. Madkaikar, the transport minister busy only making illegal money. Why at least they don't try to do the following? 1. Try to inculcate disciplined driving through awareness and also by geuinely imposing regular fines. At least by cunsensus, keep curruption out of ticketing and during petrolling on roads! 2. Marking lanes on high streets and imposing heavy fines for the offenders. 3. Police petrolling during night time to catch the offenders such as the truck in the above case. 4. Imposing safety restrictions such as using safety belts, helmets, side indicators, etc. And to see that people follow these rules or impose heavy fines and confiscate the vehicles. And strictly following trafic rules. 5. Why is that govt. after govt. is trying to outdo one another to be populist and friendly to a careless rider at the cost of public safety. Please the Govt. of Goa do something, save innocent lives being crushed uner the wheels on the streets of goa. Goanneters, your family members and friends, please ride your vehicles safely, use all the saftey devices and strictly follow the trafic rules. Please spread the message. Regards Yyuki -- Read all Goanet messages at: http://www.goanet.org/archive.php?name=Newslist=goanet _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
Re: [Goanet] Poetugues India banknotes
--- Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, This link shows bank notes from Portuguese India. Scroll down to the bottom of the page to view them (after the link has been opened.) Mervyn3.0 http://aes.iupui.edu/rwise/countries/india.html Can anyone explain how/why the Rupia changed to Escudo between 1945 (Rupia) and 1959 (Escudo)? Gabriel. On Yahoo!7 Messenger - Make free PC-to-PC calls to your friends overseas. http://au.messenger.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] New Marine Lines.
Anyone out there remember the beautiful homes on the stretch from the Mirabelle Hotel to the US Inf. Svc. liabrary -- all replaced by office buildings in the 70's. Netter Gerson DaCunha lived in one of them !! eric. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] HIV UN
Hi Goanetter, For UN to take interest in a small state in India regarding HIV. I think there are influential international spies doing charity work like dog cathers to camouflage their real intent and purpose. And, for for an idiot doctor like Brown saying that only positive people should go for an HIV test. Shows that there is s sinister interest in Goa by the foreigners. If Goans do not take this seriously the foreigners will light fire to India via Goa, just like they did in Punjab and killed Mrs Gandhi. Job done the Rupee now to its original state of Rs 80 +or- (during Indira it was Rs 13/-). Who is talking about Kalisthan NOW? With all these foreigners in Goa, with permanent residences and not working for their living, who is giving them money to live in Goa? Afra. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] Priest Murdered
Hi goanetters, Mario responds: The questions above are really no one's business. Even if these vicious insinuations (started by Godfrey Gonsalves on Goanet, and continued by Afra Dias and JoeGoaUK, who cannot even disclose his own name) have any substance, which I doubt from the testimony of those who know him, the only issue that counts is who murdered Fr. Eusebio and that they be brought to a swift and certain justice, under the law --- Afra saya, Why do you hanker over peoples names on the internet, do you want to go to their houses and break their windows, just because they do not agree with your views? There is a saying that if you play with fire, you will get burnt. The priest was doing what he was not supposed to have been doing. He was a public figure therefore scrutinised by the public. Afra. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] A Jumbo Tale !!
But first, i wonder if Joe can find me a moon rocket, i can no longer afford my daughter !! Here's a 747 story to swallow: This week, Andhraman Dr Paul made the NY Times twice, he claimed he had arranged for asylum in Ethiopia for a nice fellow named Charles Taylor. A self styled evangelist, he is said to control twenty seats from his state to parliament. His very personal cab in the sky was a gift, made possible by a call to bank in the US South by Sen. Jesse Helms, this after it had dunned the bankrupt Branniff Air. I have seen a picture of the bird, taken in a hangar in Pittsburg: standing on the wing, this is true, Bandra's Brian Mascarenhas, Paul's point man in the field. The Pitts outfit has the sole contract to maintain the forty odd aircraft that belong to a certain 'agency' of my government. Too ill now to return to work, Brian will train his replacement. I have it from trusted source that Peter D'Souza is in the running. Good Luck, Peter, it's Five Star, just 80 super luxury seats !! eric. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] Anil Kakodkar to visit Vienna to talk N-safeguards
Kakodkar to visit Vienna to talk N-safeguards Sunday, 02 April , 2006 Mumbai: Top nuclear scientist and Chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission Anil Kakodkar will visit Vienna this week for talks with the IAEA on a safeguards accord proposed under the Indo-US nuclear deal to pave the way for resumption of nuclear fuel for Indian reactors. Kakodkar will also discuss with IAEA representatives an Additional Protocol as agreed in the Indo-US nuclear deal reached during the visit of President George W Bush last month. Read: Left meets Right on nuclear agreement The plan to separate India's civilian and military nuclear facilities provides for an India-specific safeguards agreement to be negotiated with the IAEA. New Delhi has sought such an agreement since India is neither a member of the NPT nuclear powers comprising the P-5 countries nor it comes under the category of non-Nuclear Weapon States. This is a process the AEC Chairman will be undertaking at Vienna prior to tripartite arrangement with the US. This process would involve the understanding as well as putting forth India's stance on the nuances of the 'India specific' safeguards. This process is very essential as a preparation to deal with the Nuclear Suppliers' Group from whom India is expected to buy its future nuclear plants to increase the electricity base capacity which will be put under IAEA safeguards, a top DAE official said. Safeguards of IAEA are to prevent diversion of nuclear material for weapon's programme. They are complemented by controls on the export of sensitive technology from countries such as UK and the USA through NSG. - Forwarded by www.goa-world.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
Re: [Goanet] Goa's appalling road sense - 2
--- cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabriel I like your suggestion re the A to Z etc. However, I really would like to see rigorous corruption free driving tests in Goa. Cornel Cornel, Besides the corruption-free tests, I also have the following observation to make. In Jan 2002, I went to Altinho for a drive, and there I spotted a sign stating to be a NGO for better driving skills - I cannot recall the exact name at the moment. It was headed by the ex-cop Prabhakar Sinari. I went in and enquired for a rules book for driving in Goa, at the counter. The receptionist went in and invited me to see Mr. Sinari himself. I had a short chat with the man (my wife was waiting for me in the car), and he told me that there was no such publication, and that he had undertaken to re-teach all the Kadamba bus drivers the right skills. But, he said, the proverbial you can take the horse to the water etc... held true sometimes, unfortunately. So, in addition to the A to Z, road-rules ought to be published (give-way, signalling - both hands and lights, etc). Such booklets are issued here at every application for a driving licence and is included in the cost of the application. Something similar ought to be compulsorily issued in Goa too. I wonder if Valmiki can take up this suggestion with the government, in addition to initiating a series of articles in the local papers starting with the basic rules and use of signage and signalling. I have always used the right indicator lights to indicate my intention of turning right, in Goa before I left in 1980, and everywhere else internationally, as is required by the road-rules. This signal was recently erroneously interpreted by a motorcyclist as a signal for him to overtake me - a very, very dangerous interpretation, IMHO. I wonder what led to this change of interpretation - Gulfies? Inter-state truck drivers? And where did the inter-state truck-drivers derive this nonsensical interpretation? Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo. Melbourne - VIC - Australia. On Yahoo!7 Dancing with the Stars: Win tickets to be part of the glittering Grand Final! http://www.yahoo.com.au/dancing-with-the-stars _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] Re: Trio Orlando in Contacto Goa
Hello Mr Colaco, I'm Orlando's brother. I happened to read your mail on Goanet. He may be contacted on 91+832+2431900, 9823086867; Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Ilidio From: Bernado Colaco I wonder if any Goannetter has the contact of Orlando Noronha of Trio Orlando. His fusion (sitar and table with guitarra) performance of Cancao do Mar was unheard and excellent. Regards BC _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] ALL NON-RESIDENT GOANS' ASSOCIATION IN KUWAIT (NRGA)
From: Blandino viegas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ALL NON-RESIDENT GOANS' ASSOCIATION IN KUWAIT (NRGA) To: All Goans in Kuwait, Dear Goans in Kuwait, This is with reference to the captioned subject. In Kuwait, we do not have a non-resident Goans' associaiton to represent the Goan community in Kuwait to present our issues/problems to the NRI facilities Cell (Govt. of Goa)in Goa. Recent visit and meeting of the NRIFC delegates(Goa Cell)held in Kuwait, it is noticed that there was no proper protocal. Whom the NRIFC contacted in Kuwait regarding their visit is a question mark. The attendance was very poor and you know why because we goans in Kuwait do not have a COMMON body to run our affairs. HENCE THE URGENT NEED OF FORMING THIS NRGA IN KUWAIT. More details to follow in due course. B. M. Viegas Kuwait _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] The Million Dollar Gift (V M de Malar)
The Million Dollar Gift By V M de Malar It happened again over the weekend. More paintings by great Goan artists went under the hammer in New York, there was more frenzied telephone bidding from around the world, more intrigue and raised voices and flushed faces. And when the dust settled, all the records had been smashed all over again. There seems no limit to it, paintings any of us could have bought for well under a lakh of rupees just twenty years ago have soared rocket-like into the stratosphere in the last five years. The late Francis Newton Souza, the great son of Saligao, had a painting sold for well over one million dollars recently, this time it was the turn of another important Goan artist. Vasudo Gaitonde's untitled work from 1975 finally sold at Christie's auction house for 1.47 million dollars. The sour note is that both uncompromising men did not live to see their work properly valued. Souza and Gaitonde lived tough lives, both of them scrambling for money well into old age, both of them selling their best work for the price of an occasional airline ticket. The Gaitonde that smashed records was bought for thirty thousand rupees just three decades ago, a Souza that sold for eight hundred thousand dollars at Christies this past weekend was bought for just one thousand dollars. The buyers have reaped an unbelievable bonanza for their accidental investment. But the artists get nothing, and both Goans died just before their work started to get true international acclaim. Another Goan artist, the non-resident Dom Martin, thinks this posthumous shower of money conferred on our artists work might be a kind of grandiose perverseness. Writing on Goanet, the popular Internet discussion group (see www.goanet.org), he said Both F. N. Souza and V. S. Gaitonde would have benefited immensely and endearingly from a waited-on lifestyle had any of their paintings made the 1.5 million dollar benchmark in their lifetime. Instead, both endured existence on a marginal income. Indeed, Souza lived in New York in a dank apartment with water seeping through the roof, and Gaitonde suffered serious illness in near total isolation in New Delhi, with letters addressed to him returned undelivered because he'd so profoundly slipped off the radar. It's great irony that Goa produced these two magnificent pioneers of modern Indian art but there are almost no paintings by either on display in Goa. Entire generations of Goan artists have grown up in the shadow of these two masters, but have only seen a reproduction or two in books published in Mumbai and Delhi. We treated these two greats shabbily in life, we treated their works with scant respect all through their lengthy working careers, and as a culture we are still totally ignorant about these cultural giants. When will Souza and Gaitonde (and Trindade, and Angelo Fonseca, and Mario Miranda) get their just due from their beloved Goa? Souza and Gaitonde are now enshrined in Indian art history as pioneer Progressives, they were a key two out of a mere handful of young Indians who completely revolutionized Indian art. They get endless recognition now on the national stage, on the international stage. But in their native Goa? Nothing. That same Dom Martin used to spend time with the late Max Sequiera, of Colvale, who owned an original Gaitonde after a career as gallery manager in Mumbai. In 1991, the two collaborated on a slightly eccentric plan. Martin bought the painting, and both men arranged to have it donated to the Goa state museum. Martin says, to both of us, it was an opportunity to preserve one of Gaitonde's sterling pieces, in the very land where he brought glory as a Goan. Our unthinking Goan government has done nothing to treat our great artists in the manner they deserve, and we the unenlightened Goan people have done nothing to properly celebrate our own. But Martin freely gave away this priceless Gaitonde, which he knew even then was worth a fortune. And after the Christie's auction he still says, no regrets, truly none whatsoever. Go check out his million dollar donation at the museum, and be grateful that at least two solitary Goans did the right thing by our artists. (ENDS) http://www.goanet.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=425 --- The above article appeared in the April 4, 2006 edition of the Herald, Goa --- ABOUT THE AUTHOR: VM is an early Goanetter, who put his money where his mouth is and returned to settle-down in Goa in late 2004, while in his thirties. VM regularly writes for the Goa and Mumbai media. --- _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update
[Goanet] Re: Name-calling on Goanet
Fred, why is it that when overbearing candles which were lit in a self- anointed dharma to dispel the darkness -- begin to explode, that silent netters are called upon to proffer their own candles? Yes, we all have our candles to lug around like designated crosses or carcasses (gets competitive here as well!). And while the vocal netters appear to have an endless supply of wax to burn, the silent netters who live in a beeless environment -- find the obsessive-compulsive need to hang on to their pre-liberation candles. This, solely in the event of a massive ego- blowout. Thats when the fallout from the insults and name calling becomes a stifling fog, affecting visibility . . . forcing silent netters to frenetically reach for their matchboxes, candles and the exit. So you see Fred, your benevolent call albeit humane and innocuous, even patriotic -- can result in candle-rattling between the vocal and silent netters. I dont foresee a whole lot of bowing or scratching resulting therefrom. A displacement of some egos, maybe. Alright, I'll settle for a few misplaced egos as well! My apprehension, however what with the candles being disproportionate and all that, and the portel into and out of Goanet getting structurally unsound from all that heavy-handed rattling it takes just one odd-size, overbearing candle to go off balance, crash into the portel, become lodged like a Sequoia tree . . . and block everyones entry and exit! What are we going to do then, Fred? Would we even be capable of holding hands, examine and treat one anothers wounds? Would we even know how to administer patience as we await a Goanet volunteer to come to our rescue with the Jaws of Life? All this, you know, has to do with the chip of Goanism which we have been carrying on our shoulders, and which gets bogged down into an impersonal cross wherever we go, meet with, or congregate! :) Dom Martin --- Frederick Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's so much name-calling on Goanet these days, that one sometimes simply feels embarassed to be part of it. One the one hand, we have a bunch of critics who shout censored whenever a post (relevant or otherwise, even if clearly violative of the rules) is rejected . . . . _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
Re: [Goanet] Poetugues India banknotes
I collect Portuguese India banknotes/coins/postal history/used postcards/medals/tokens/postal stationery, etc. Does anyone out there need to dispose any items from my aforementioned want list? Let me know what you have, soonest. Anticipate/appreciate your help to enhance my existing philatelic/numismatic collection of Goa during Portguese rule. Lawrence - Original Message - From: Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, April 4, 2006 5:23 am Subject: [Goanet] Poetugues India banknotes Folks, This link shows bank notes from Portuguese India. Scroll down to the bottom of the page to view them (after the link has been opened.) Mervyn3.0 http://aes.iupui.edu/rwise/countries/india.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] Re: Fred's Bluff: THE BUZZARD, BAT AND BUMBLEBEE
Bravo, Miguel, a very refreshing and positive bit of philosophy. Let's keep looking up. Regards, Victor Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THE BUZZARD, BAT AND BUMBLEBEE BUZZARD: If you put a buzzard in a pen that is 6 feet by 8 feet and is entirely open at the top, the bird, in spite of its ability to fly, will be an absolute prisoner. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
