[Goanet]GFA slips up (PTI)

2004-12-28 Thread Frederick Noronha
http://www.thestatesman.net/page.news.php?clid=5theme=usrsess=1id=64326

GFA slips up
Press Trust of India

MARGAO, Dec. 28. — The Goa Football Association has not really learnt a lesson 
from the tragic on-field death of Dempo striker Cristiano Junior, as it failed 
to provide medical facilities to a player during a local second division league 
match at Varca ground here on Sunday, nearly costing him his life.

Ten minutes into the match, the goalkeeper of Mundvel Sports Club, Alex, and a 
ABC Benaulim Sports Club midfielder went in for an aerial ball. It is believed 
that the midfielder’s elbow hit Alex on the chest, leaving him unconscious on 
the ground for nearly five minutes.

With no medical facilities provided by the GFA, one of the players gave 
mouth-to-mouth resuscitation which helped Alex to regain consciousness. He was 
later taken to a doctor who said his condition was stable.

A GFA official admitted that Sunday’s incident was an eye opener. He said the 
association should arrange for medical requirements during all the GFA leagues 
matches. “We spend quite an amount on the referees and the match commissioners 
to supervise a match. Requisitioning the services of a doctor would not make 
much difference,” he said. 


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[Goanet]RE: close down national Institute of Oceanography

2004-12-28 Thread D'Souza, Avelino
1000 crores is not steep compared to thousands of crores pocketed by
politicians implicated in hundred's of scams!

SAFETY of its citizens has never been top priority for the Indian
government.



Avelino
Bastora/Kuwait



__

Samir has a valid point particularly since the NIO is based in Goa.

However, it is the Indian Government that is to be blamed for not 
participating in the tsunami warning system.
===

But such was the level of ignorance that even National Institute of 
Oceanography (NIO) director Satish R Shetye admits: ''I got to know
about 
the tsunami at around 10 am on Sunday, I was completely taken by
surprise.''

The irony could not have been sharper. For, one of the people who helped
set 
up the Pacific Tsunami Warning System and the Canadian Tsunami Warning 
System three decades ago was a Canada-based Indian, Tad Murty.

 ''I have tried several times with the Indian government, but they have
said 
they do not have enough money to sustain a full-fledged system,'' Murty
told 
The Indian Express from Manitoba, ''it is largely seen as a Pacific
country 
problem.''


It's estimated that joining the tsunami warning system would cost around
Rs 
1,000 crore. While that does seem steep, contrasting that with the human
and 
economic costs of the tsunami paints a different picture altogether -
almost 
11,000 priceless human lives, estimates of 30,000 missing, and millions 
displaced. The economic cost to business alone is estimated at Rs 2,000 
crore.





[Goanet]NEWS: Parrikar warns Congress of legal consequences over film

2004-12-28 Thread Frederick Noronha
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/holnus/009200412290312.htm

Parrikar warns Congress of legal consequences over film

Panaji, Dec. 29 (PTI): Warning the Opposition Congress of legal consequences 
if it continued to whip up communal feelings within the State, Goa Chief 
Minister Manohar Parrikar, on Tuesday said a controversial film on the 
liberation movement was being used as a vote magnet.

If the Congress tries to polarise the Hindu and Catholic community over the 
issue, the Government will not tolerate it. They will have to face legal 
consequences, “ Parrikar told reporters here.

The film, which has been produced by the Government, is at the centre of a 
controversy, with several freedom fighters, experts and the opposition Congress 
terming it communal, claiming that it presents a very distorted version of 
Goa's freedom struggle against the Portuguese.

The Government has not interfered in the script of the film. The script has 
been prepared by the screening committee, which consists of people of all 
religions. We will be having an exclusive screening of the film for freedom 
fighters on the 30th of this month where the members of the committee will be 
present to answer any questions that might be raised, Parrikar added.

The film has a certificate for universal viewing from the censor board, but 
even then if some one feels it is offensive to a particular community, he is 
free to write to us or the committee and we will make the modifications, 
Parrikar said.

Denying that film was made compulsory viewing for schools in the State, the 
Chief Minister said no such circular or order has been issued. We have sent 
the CD to schools like we send a whole lot of other supplies, there was no 
compulsion on them to show the film. 


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[Goanet]Hundreds of Children will join “FELIZ NATAL 2004” in Kuwait

2004-12-28 Thread Crystal Focus Club
Hey Kiddos, do you know that Santa Claus has still kept a bagful of gifts 
for you?

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[Goanet]29 DEC 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS

2004-12-28 Thread Joel D'Souza
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
December 29, 2004

   THOUGHT FOR THE DAY: Zo konn fuddem pollenam to fattim urta. (He who
does not look ahead, remains behind.) domnic fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

TSUNAMI TOLL SWELLS: Inclusive of the over 7,500 dead in India, the total
toll in all the seven tsunami-affected countries in South and South East
Asia galloped close to 55,000. Of this, Indonesia, whose Sumatra island was
close to the epicentre of the quake, alone accounted for about 2,174 deaths.
(GT)

NO TOURIST EXODUS: Addressing reporters on December 28 State Tourism
Minister Matanhy Saldanha described reports about tourists fleeing Goa as
'biased and malicious'. He reaffirmed that the situation in the State was
normal and that on the contrary foreign charter operators were inquiring
whether they could divert Thailand-bound passengers to Goa. (GT)

RS.50 LAKH FOR TSUNAMI VICTIMS: The government has announced an amount of
Rs.50 lakh as aid for the victims of Tsunami disaster. Chief Minister
Manohar Parrikar said that it might adopt a village raved by the tidal waves
on the lines of Deogad in Gujarat, which Goa government had helped to
rebuild. He said that he would donate his month's salary and speak to other
MLAs and Goa Government Employees Association in a bid to increase the
contribution. (GT)

IT'S A CHOCK-A-BLOCK NEW YEAR: With the tourist season reaching its peak and
the inbound travel picking up like never before, the Tourism industry is
seen celebrating to the anecdote that India has crossed the much hyped 3
million mark. Goa handles about 90 per cent of charter traffic and about 30
charter slots have been booked every week for the six-month spell in Goa,
compared to 23 slots last year. According to sources, the current hotel room
supply across Goa could fall short to meet the anticipated annual demand
growth of 25 per cent. (H)

JAMIR KICKS OFF GOA GRIND: Goa's very own attempt at sealing its place as
the party destination to the world, and also in the record books, took off
to a flying start at the Radisson White Sands Resort, on December 28. The
65-hour long party is an attempt to break the Guinness Record and was also
inaugurated by the Goa Governor, SC Jamir. The Governor not only launched
the show but also danced a few steps at the gravity Pool nightclub. (GT)

CM CHALLENGES SCRIBES OVER RAVE PARTIES: Throwing the gauntlet at the media,
the chief Minister Manohar Parrikar said, If you inform me of a rave party
when it is on, I will come in my private vehicle. When it was pointed out
that drugs are sold during the rave parties, he said, You show me, I will
take action immediately. Newspapers had carried reports in the last few
days about rave parties happening in Anjuna-Vagator. (H)

SCREENING OF FILM WAS OPTIONAL: CM: Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar said the
screening of the film on Goa's freedom struggle on Liberation Day had not
been made compulsory in schools and a copy of the VCD had been sent to the
institutions for their record. (GT)

SCREENING OF FREEDOM STRUGGLE VCD: In the continuing series of their highly
informative History Series, the Xavier Centre of Historical Research,
Porvorim, will screen the Goa Freedom Struggle VCD and hold an open forum
on it on January 6, 2005, at 5.30 pm. The event is open to all. Tel:
2417772/2414971 (delio [EMAIL PROTECTED])

NO MORE FLOATING CASINOS: The State government will henceforth not grant
permission for opening of floating casinos, either anchored in the waters of
its rivers or along its coastline. Presently, there is only one floating
casino, Caravela anchored in River Mandovi, which has the permission of the
authorities. The Chief Minister, Mr Manohar Parrikar, informing the pressmen
about the decision said, however, the luxury liners or cruises having
casinos, and either passing along the State's coastline or temporarily
anchored on the Goan harbours, will not face any legal action. (NT)

CHARAS SEIZED: A police team of Anti-Narcotic Cell conducted a raid near
Calangute bus stand and seized 3.330 kgs of charas from one Dipesh Buddha
Thoki. The value of the charas is estimated at Rs.3.33. (GT)

ATTENTION CROSSLITES: It's going to be a reunion of hearts, a fusion of
minds, to golden memories we left behind. So fasten your seatbelts and
before its too late, lets meet one another and make it a day to remember!
2nd January, 2005 at 5 pm to 11 pm. At Holy Cross High School, Siolim, Goa.
For more information contact Teacher Vilma (0832 2272632) or Headmistress Sr
Jennifer (0832 2270304 or 0832 2272244) Olympio Almeida (9822168112,
e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) or Joseph Simon Fernandes (9822488138) or
Alister Miranda (9822144281, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED])

DOWRY CASE REGISTERED: The Vasco police have registered an offence against a
husband and his relatives for allegedly assaulting his wife for not
fulfilling their demand for dowry. (NT)

SERPENTINE QUEUES AT EXPOSITION: With barely four days to go for the 43-day
Exposition to come to a close, over 70,000 

[Goanet]RE: GoanetReader -- When film-making gets a bigoted edge...

2004-12-28 Thread D'Souza, Avelino
The in-depth analysis of the notorious VCD is enlightening.  All secular
Goans must take legal measures against the perpetrators of producing
this filthy VCD.

We don't want another Gujarat in making!

Avelino
Bastora/Kuwait


_

When film-making gets a bigoted edge... Goa's anti-colonial stir retold

By Frederick Noronha

Clearly, such an endeavour attracts provisions of the law. What makes it
more unusual is that the state government is behind this VCD, which
openly
acknowledges chief minister Manohar Parrikar as its inspiration. Perhaps
some lawyer would be better placed to explain how such a VCD would sit
against the provisions of the law -- including the Indian Penal Code's
Section 153A (for promoting enmity between different groups on grounds
of
religion...), Sec. 153B (for repeatedly making imputations, assertions
prejudicial to national integration), Sec. 295A (for injuring or
defiling
place of worship with intent to insult the religion of any class), Sec
298
(for uttering words, etc., with deliberate intent to wound religious
feelings) and Sec 505 (for statements conducing to public mischief).



Re: [Goanet]Authors, editors, fees et Indian Made.

2004-12-28 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo
 --- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 I have in the past, bought goods made in China that
 have clonked out after 
 one use, although I agree that now a days many items
 of quality are made in 
 China. India too makes quality goods. I have a Titan
 watch bought 5 years 
 ago which is performing, well, like clock work. We
 purchased a Remi mixer 
 about 10 years ago - these Indian made machines can
 run for half and hour 
 and longer grinding all your masalas. In fact I have
 noticed that the blades 
 used in these machines have now been copied by many
 Western made mixers, I 
 am sure the Indians unfortunately did not patent the
 design of the blades. 

I heartily agree with Gabe on Titan watches and masala
grinders (ours is a Diplomat).  And now, Tupperware.  


Cheers,

Gabriel.

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RE: [Goanet]Indonesian Eartquake

2004-12-28 Thread halur rasho

--- Tim de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I wonder how fellow Goans might explain the
 catastrophic Indonesian 
 earthquake and its aftermath. Was it the act of a
 very angry God? Cornel
 
 
God seems to be a rather ungrateful creature, at least
to me. Here we are, indians, some of the most
credulously religious folk, and he visits this on us.
And the ungodly europeans and americans get milk and
honey. Thank you God, for nothing.

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[Goanet]Confusing World

2004-12-28 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Confusing World:

Last week, I attended a talk in Utica, NY, by an individual with a
Konkani name. He was very knowledgeable about his subject and spoke very
well. Magir, he told us, he was born (third generation) in South Africa.
He calls himself South African. But he grew up in Nairobi, Kenya. He
studied in Surrey, England. Now he resides in Buffalo, USA. He is
married to a Gujarati girl. The only non-English language he speaks is
Swahili. 

He reminded me of my study in London in 1977, where I attended a Goan
function. I met a young lad of about 15 years. I asked him who he was.
He said Truthfully, I don't know! I was born in Africa but I am not an
African. I am supposed to be Goan but have never been there and don't
know what it is. I am now living in England and supposed to be English,
but I am not white. 

Food for thought! 
Borem Confusaum murree. :=))
Aka munta 'Identity Crises'. :=))
Have things changed?
Are we doing anything if this is a problem or a potential setback?
Regards, GL






Re: [Goanet]close down national Institute of Oceanography

2004-12-28 Thread Eddie Fernandes
Samir has a valid point particularly since the NIO is based in Goa.
However, it is the Indian Government that is to be blamed for not 
participating in the tsunami warning system.
===
Headline: 26 countries alerted in 15 minutes, India not one of them
28 Dec: Indian Express.  1015 words. at 
http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=61674

Excerpts:  After yesterday's earthquake, there were 90 minutes before the 
first wave of the deluge crashed into the Indian coast. Within 15 minutes of 
the earthquake, scientists running the tsunami warning system for the 
Pacific had issued a cautionary from their Honolulu hub, to 26 participating 
countries. India was not among them.

But such was the level of ignorance that even National Institute of 
Oceanography (NIO) director Satish R Shetye admits: ''I got to know about 
the tsunami at around 10 am on Sunday, I was completely taken by surprise.''

The irony could not have been sharper. For, one of the people who helped set 
up the Pacific Tsunami Warning System and the Canadian Tsunami Warning 
System three decades ago was a Canada-based Indian, Tad Murty.

''I have tried several times with the Indian government, but they have said 
they do not have enough money to sustain a full-fledged system,'' Murty told 
The Indian Express from Manitoba, ''it is largely seen as a Pacific country 
problem.''

The Indian met office has its own explanations. ''Unless we have computer 
models, we cannot issue a tsunami warning after every earthquake,'' says R S 
Dattatrayam, director (seismology), Indian Meteorological Department. Every 
major earthquake in the ocean does not result in a tsunami.
===

Headline: Life cheaper than warning system?
29 Dec: Times of India at 
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/973993.cms

Excerpts:
In the end, it was about 90 helpless minutes between the earthquake in 
Indonesia and the waves hitting India... It is  almost criminal to hear the 
government griping about the high costs of joining the tsunami warning 
system.

It's estimated that joining the tsunami warning system would cost around Rs 
1,000 crore. While that does seem steep, contrasting that with the human and 
economic costs of the tsunami paints a different picture altogether - almost 
11,000 priceless human lives, estimates of 30,000 missing, and millions 
displaced. The economic cost to business alone is estimated at Rs 2,000 
crore.

Eddie Fernandes
===
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I do not see why my (tax payer's) money should go in funding an institute
such as NIO (National Institute of Oceonagraphy) if such an all important
event about our ocean such as tsumani goes unpredicted by the institute.
This is infinitely more important than trips to Antarctica, and growing
algaes.
The Indian govt. should immediately close all institutes related to 
oceanography
and divert all funds spent in such useless endeavours to relief work.

Dr. Samir Kelekar,
Bangalore



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[Goanet]A CIVILIZED SOCIETY DOES NOT REOPEN WOUNDS - A GT REPORT COMMENTS

2004-12-28 Thread Gabe Menezes
From: Sachin Phadte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrote:-
To: goanet@goanet.org
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 11:51 AM
Subject: [Goanet]A CIVILIZED SOCIETY DOES NOT REOPEN WOUNDS - A GT REPORT  
COMMENTS


I would like to respectfully disagree with the tone of the editorial in 
Gomantak Times. History has to be narrated the way it is, and it should not 
be falsified because some group may find it uncomfortable. The atrocities 
committed by the Portuguese in Goa, and many other places in the world, did 
happen. Not talking about them in fact makes things worse as far as the 
memory of the sufferers is concerned. In the editorial, a question is posed 
as follows: Are scenes of Nazi brutality shown to young Jews?

The answer is: No, it is shown not only to the young Jews, but also to 
all the people, Jews and non-Jews, old and young. And there is a huge 
holocaust museum where people can see the brutality.

RESPONSE:
Dear Sachin Phadte,
I am not in Goa and have not seen the VCD nor had an expose about it. From 
what I can garner, it is not the fact that the Portuguese may have butchered 
our fore parents. It is about the fact that this VCD is clearly out to 
create a communal divide! I do not know, which Religion you espouse to but 
if you are a Hindu and a similar VCD was made which shows that the Hindus 
created a lot of atrocities - ala Gujerat, I am sure you would not want to 
be associated with this extremity! If the Christians were a majority and we 
prepetrated the same sort of proprganda on you, the whole lot of you would 
be outraged.

It abhors us all, if we are to believe that we (Christian Goans) were 
converted at the point of the sword. So what would you have us do? We should 
all renounce Christianity and return to the Mother faith - Hinduism - and 
may be some of us were Muslims before that and some, from other Religions 
before Hinduism took hold of Goa. Please give us guidance on what you expect 
Christian Goans to do - just accept the VCD and a few days, weeks, months or 
years later, we can be brought to accept the yoke or taken to the slaughter 
house?

Cheers,
Gabe.




[Goanet]Re: Goanet Reader -- When film-making gets a bigoted edge...

2004-12-28 Thread George Pinto
Fred continues to bring good content to Goan cyberspace.  I hope young Goans 
are inspired by him
to take up journalism and present various issues in an objective manner.

Regards,
George

--- GoanetReader goanet@goanet.org wrote:

 When film-making gets a bigoted edge... Goa's anti-colonial stir retold
 
 By Frederick Noronha
 



RE: [Goanet]Indonesian Eartquake

2004-12-28 Thread Tim de Mello
From: cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I wonder how fellow Goans might explain the catastrophic Indonesian 
earthquake and its aftermath. Was it the act of a very angry God? Cornel


===
Hi Cornel:
I hope not. Why would God be so angry with Sri Lankans and South Indians?
How about this for a pseudo-scientific theory.
Most of the North American continent has been gripped by severe winter 
weather. This unseasonal cold could perhaps (?) have caused the surface of 
the earth in this area to unseasonally shrink - faster than usual. Could 
this have caused the tectonic plate in this region to tend to curve 
concavely (like a bi-mettalic strip) thus easing the frictional force 
between plates in this area causing them to shift a little thus affecting 
the plates in other areas that constitute the ring of fire?

Good to blame it all on to global warming . . . and even better if you 
factor the US as a non signatory to Kyoto? Whaddya think, Mario?

Hey, I said it was pseudo-scientific . . . . so please no flames.
Tim de Mello
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CANADA



[Goanet]Indonesian Eartquake

2004-12-28 Thread Gabe Menezes
cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wrote:-
To: goanet@goanet.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 6:55 PM
Subject: [Goanet]Indonesian Eartquake

I wonder how fellow Goans might explain the catastrophic Indonesian 
earthquake and its aftermath. Was it the act of a very angry God? Cornel

RESPONSE: Certainly, Insurance and Re-insurance companies would call it an 
act of God and depending on the fine print will not pay up! In their 
terminology it is  called Force Majeure.

So now you have it, from the horses mouth!
Gabe. 




[Goanet]close down national Institute of Oceanography

2004-12-28 Thread graceful
I do not see why my (tax payer's) money should go in funding an institute
such as NIO (National Institute of Oceonagraphy) if such an all important
event about our ocean such as tsumani goes unpredicted by the institute.

This is infinitely more important than trips to Antarctica, and growing
algaes.

The Indian govt. should immediately close all institutes related to oceanography
and divert all funds spent in such useless endeavours to relief work.

Dr. Samir Kelekar,
Bangalore





[Goanet]Indonesian Eartquake

2004-12-28 Thread cornel
I wonder how fellow Goans might explain the catastrophic Indonesian 
earthquake and its aftermath. Was it the act of a very angry God? Cornel 




[Goanet]Re: Sachin Phadte History written by pygmies...

2004-12-28 Thread Mizeen Cavelossim
Goanetters ! 

According to Sachin Phadte, History has to be stated as it is
and he is right in saying so. I suppose he also agrees that history is not
to be adjusted to propagate the hidden agenda of a facist political group
which wants to merely divide young minds who are living in perfect harmony.
Why is this so called history being forced on teachers by demanding a
compliance report ? Such use of force exposes the hidden agenda of pigmy
minded politicians who call themselves educated. The freedom fighters who
were part of historical events have vociferously refuted the content of the
CD in the press, cutting across communal lines of religion. Do we go back to
the pigmy era even after staging an IFFI ? Sachin please speak upHas the
Goan Hitler fed you to speak for him his CD ? 

Mizeen



[Goanet]Re: Tariq on Insourcing

2004-12-28 Thread Peter D'Souza
From: Tariq Siddiqui [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In any case, a subsidary of a foreign company will create more jobs in the US than
vice versa (exactly) because of the size of the US market. 

Not necessarily. Case in point: TCS and Wipro do not create more 
U.S.-based jobs than they do  in Bangalore, Poona or Hyderabad. It is 
precisely the low cost of programer labour in India ($6/hour) versus the 
cost of  similar labour in the USA ($60/hour) which adds jobs to the 
country that gains western outsourcing contracts.

That also does not mean that jobs were lost in the home country of the foreign companies 
 

Quite right. In fact, the home country you refer to stands to gain jobs.
You still have not understood my argument. When Honda set up a factory in the US, it
did not close down a plant in Japan. Moreover, the product was meant for the US and
not for the Japanese market. 

That's right, but it's only a part of the picture. Honda could have chosen to 
produce more for the US market out of factories in Japan--and it would have 
helped the Japanese manufacturing and shiping industries, among others--but 
given the diminished marginal returns, it makes more sense to have them 
'insource' their operation to the United States. It is a classic case for the 
benefits of insourcing--benefits for the business (higher profits) and for the 
consumer (lower cost of manufacture, lower price).
Strong trade is not and will never be a zero-sum game. (In a zero-sum game a 
win for Indian exports must translate to a loss for its trading partner.)
To help you understand better, I have no problem if GM sets up a factory in China
and builds cars there for the local Chinese market. I would have a problem if GM
sets up a factory in China only to build cars for export to the US and closes down
factories here at the same time. 
   

Such a situation might mean a loss of American jobs in one sector 
(automobile), or even a part of a sector (automobile/factory workers), 
but it often translates into gains elsewhere. There was a great hue and 
cry when NAFTA passed in 199x, and the automobile industry in the USA 
lost 10,000 jobs almost immediately. The less publicised fact was that 
40,000 new jobs were created in the same region (Detroit) in the same 
industry over the next three years. The most recent Indian 
administrations seem to have understood that international competition 
is a good thing (TM).

There is also another aspect here that you should consider. If you outsource a
certain part of your business process because you need to have your employees
concentrate on other process to generate more revenue, that would also be
acceptable. 

Tariq, in the grand scheme of things this becomes a micro issue. Is it 
more acceptable if they outsource such a process to a domestic company 
as opposed to a foreign company? Will the company as a whole continue to 
be viable if it does so? It is a business decision to divide tasks 
between a local labour source and a foreign one. It may or may not have 
a significant bearing on an industry or the economy.

When you talk about not having a problem with a certain business 
model, or another one being acceptable, you're essentially trying to 
create an equation which says that if one country gains jobs by trade or 
outsourcing, then the other country must necessarily lose. This pattern 
of thought left economies such as India very stunted for decades. The 
only ways by which a country to prosper are to establish rule of law, 
provide good education and allow free trade (in that order).

Peter


[Goanet]Re: Seminar, Nov 2004 issue *Amchem Goem*

2004-12-28 Thread Mario Goveia
TO: George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In response to Halur Rasho and Philip Thomas you have
continued your reprehensible comments about the US
Senate's 9/11 Commission not being credible simply
because they were white, without any regard to their
individual credentials and political philosophies. 
This is blatant reverse racism pure and simple.

Your own posts on this subject are ample proof that
brown people can be just as biased, irrational and
delusional as any white person.

You have obviously not even read the 9/11 report,
available on www.senate.gov, so how do you come up
with your paranoid generalizations?  Have you been
talking to Michael Moore?

While 99.9% of Muslims are not suicidal terrorists,
every one of the nineteen 9/11 jihadis were Muslims. 
In spite of this there are no anti-Muslim or anti-Arab
views in the 9/11 report. Every assertion was
thoroughly researched and documented and the sources
of information are all part of the report.  Any honest
brown person would have come to the same conclusions
they did.

Regarding the poll you cited you need to know that the
US constitution is not responsive to polls, which are
a snapshot of the people polled.  No more, no less. 
No country is more protective of the rights of
minorities than the US, and brown skinned people
dominate much of the US economy.  For example, Indian
Americans have been the top ethnic group by family
income since 1980.  Filipinos are No. 2.  The list 
includes the whites you are so afraid of.  The top two
executives in US foreign policy are black skinned, and
two cabinet ministers are black as well.  The next
Attorney General is brown skinned.  The top US General
in Iraq is an Arab-American.

You need to check out how they are treating Muslims in
Germany, France and the Netherlands, without the
impetus of a 9/11 attack.  I have Arab friends in the
US who are concerned when Arab strangers show up in
their midst.  They know the difference between most
Muslims and terrorists who happen to be Muslims.  Why
don't you?










Re: [Goanet]Re: Chickens coming home to roost!

2004-12-28 Thread Tim de Mello
Tariq Siddiqui [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I will agree with you when you show me the UN resolutions for intervention 
in Grenada, Panama and Vietnam

-Tariq
==
Yes, and we must not forget that if non-conformance to UN resolutions was 
the reason for the US intervening in the affairs of Iraq, then the US should 
have acted against Israel many years ago. It has consistently disregarded UN 
resolutions.

Instead the US consistently vetoes UN resolutions even when the rest of the 
Security Council are unanimous.

A double standard.
A visit to http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/UN/usvetoes.html will 
give one an idea of the scale of this double standard.

The
Tim de Mello
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CANADA



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2004-12-28 Thread SHARAYU WALKE
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[Goanet]Airlines News: Air India, Special Offer, BOM-LON-BOM less than Rs.20,000

2004-12-28 Thread JoeGoaUk


Contact your travel agents.

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[Goanet]Yahoo! News - Scientists in USA saw tsunami coming

2004-12-28 Thread Eustaquio Santimano
Scientists in USA saw tsunami coming
Tue Dec 28, 7:11 AM ET
Top Stories - USATODAY.com  
By Dan Vergano, USA TODAY
Minutes after a massive earthquake rocked the Indian Ocean on Sunday,  
international ocean monitors knew that a tsunami would likely follow. But  
they didn't know whom to tell.

We put out a bulletin within 20 minutes, technically as fast as we could  
do it, says Jeff LaDouce of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric  
Administration. LaDouce says e-mails were dispatched to Indonesian  
officials, but he doesn't know what happened to the information.

The problem is that Sunday's earthquake struck the unmonitored Indian  
Ocean. An international system of buoys and monitoring stations - the  
Pacific Tsunami Warning Center based in Hawaii - spans the Pacific,  
alerting nations there to any oncoming disasters. But no such system  
guards the Indian Ocean.

(There isn't one in the Atlantic Ocean because there are comparatively few  
earthquakes there. LaDouce says efforts are being made in the Caribbean to  
set up a warning system after last year's tsunami caused by the volcanic  
collapse on the island of Montserrat.)

Sumatra has an ample history of great earthquakes, which makes the lack  
of a tsunami warning system in the Indian Ocean all the more tragic, says  
geologist Brian Atwater of the U.S. Geological Survey (news - web sites).  
Everyone knew Sumatra was a loaded gun.

On Monday, Asian government officials, notably in India, discussed plans  
to coordinate efforts to develop an Indian Ocean system. It's a people  
problem, not a technology problem, says geophysicist Teng-fong Wong of  
the State University of New York-Stony Brook. Governments just have to  
cooperate.

In fact, the detector buoys that monitor tsunami surges have been  
available for decades. They record water heights and send measurements  
throughout the Pacific network. False alarms are a concern, slowing the  
speed with which bulletins can be released. A 1986 false alarm in Hawaii  
cost more than $30 million in evacuation costs.

LaDouce notes that warnings are of little use without evacuation plans,  
given how quickly a tsunami can travel. Tsunami waves struck Sumatra  
minutes after the quake and hit Thailand within an hour.

Even if you give the tourist resorts in Thailand a half-hour's notice, it  
is no easy matter to evacuate vast swaths of coastland, he says. You  
have to plan and train people. And then do it all over again.



[Goanet]Promoting Konkani Musical Shows and belittling tiatrists

2004-12-28 Thread \\\www.goa-world.com/goa/\\\
Researched on the Net and found it archived at www.goanet.org:

These Rostad audience normally occupy backbenches and their motto is not to see 
the tiatro peacefully but to create disorder.  If you see them carefully you can
easily identify them and their background.
http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/2003-September/005103.html

.Tinpot Rostad tiatrits (tiatrist) (sic) and regretably accepted by other 
tiatrists who are equally Rostad.  He never made an attempt to kill the art of
tiatr in any tiatrist as it is done in Kuwait by some Rostad tiatrists under 
the leadership of one double Rostad tiatrist who was formerly a drug addict 
and a rapist.
www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/2003-October/006081.html

A. Veronica Fernandes,
Kuwait.

- Why can't this fellow, A.Veronica Fernandes, expose the name of the tiatrist 
and the other tiatrists in question? Who is he afraid of?
Promoting Konkani Musical Shows in the name of Konkani and Tiatr and belittling 
Konkani tiatrists.
What a paradox, indeed.
Just curious.

AlmeidaG(ji)



[Goanet]'Konkani Nightingale' Ms. LORNA to enthrall Kuwait audience for KGTS 'Konkani Machiek Noman' musical show

2004-12-28 Thread \\\www.goa-world.com/goa/\\\
'Konkani Nightingale' Ms. LORNA to enthrall Kuwait audience 
for KGTS 'Konkani Machiek Noman' musical show



The Managing Committee of the Kuwait-Goa Tiatristanchi Sonvstha and  its 
members greets all Konkani lovers and announces  the versatile Goan singer  and 
diva Ms. Lorna will be the star of the second Konkani musical show in Kuwait 
titled Konknni Machiek Noman scheduled for 4th February 2005 organized by 
Kuwait Goa  Tiatristanchi Sonvstha (KGTS) which will be held at the Gulf 
English School Auditorium, Rumaithiya.  

The first musical show last year titled 'Tiatr ani Tiatrist' was a unique blend 
of presenation with scores of musicians and  stage artistes.  The proceeds of 
the KGTS shows goes towards support of seniormost Konkani stage artistes 
presently in Goa and Mumbai. 

Ms. Lorna, known as the 'Konkani Nightingale', began her singing career with 
renowned music director late Chris Perry in the 60s and  has mesmerised 
audiences in India and abroad with her golden voice. 

Ms. Lorna has also sung in Konkani movies and has hits such as Sorga 
Rajeant, Bebdo, Pisso and Lisboa among several others.  
 
Await for more suprises on this mega event or contact KGTS members (email:  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
 
 
 
Links: http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/2004-December/021782.html
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gulf-goans/message/4965

(c) GWNews



[Goanet]IFRA Exhibition Football Match on 31st Dec. 2004 in Kuwait

2004-12-28 Thread \\\www.goa-world.com/goa/\\\
IFRA EXHIBITION FOOTBALL MATCH


A.E. D'Souza, founder and president of Indian Fooball Referees Association 
(IFRA), founder and ex-president of Kuwait Indian Football Federation (KIFF), 
after  serving as  president of IFRA for a long time, is retiring and is 
shortly due to leave Kuwait for good.  
 
In order to facilitate this great personality for his untiring services 
provided for sports and football in particular since its inception on Soor 
grounds, IFRA is organizing an exhibition football match between star studded 
Curtorcares United and Kuwait Duty Free-sponsored United Friends Club on 
Friday, 31st December 2004 at Soor Grounds at 8:00 a.m.  
 
The Managing Committee and members of IFRA hereby coordially invites all 
football lovers to witness this exciting match and to be a part of this unique 
celebration for a unique person, A.E. D'Souza.


Bernardo Fernandes
General Secretary
Indian Football Referees Association (IFRA)
P.O. Box 341, Dasman 15454, Kuwait
Tel: 4725210 - 2404914
Fax: 4725210 - 2454246
 

A.E. D'Souza (standing 5th from left)   (c) www.goa-world.com/goa/
 
Web link on IFRA:  http://www.goa-world.com/goa/sports/ifra.htm



[Goanet]FORMER GOA CHIEF SECRETARY BEREAVED

2004-12-28 Thread Aires Rodrigues
Mrs. Roli Srivastava  wife of former Goa Chief Secretary Dr. G.C Srivastava
passed away of a fatal heart attack at Allahabad.

Roli was Goa's Income Tax Commissioner a few yeas ago.

Dr. G.C. Srivastava is at Allahabad (contact nos.:0532 - 2461707  2462130).
Tehraveen ceremony of Mrs. Srivastava will be at Allahabad (21, Lowther
Road, Allahabad) on 30th December 2004 at 12 noon.

Aires Rodrigues
Ribandar




Re: [Goanet]RE: Finally some facts

2004-12-28 Thread Frederick Noronha(FN)
We need to accept that a whole lot of statistics churned out of Goa are 
based on wishful thinking.

I've heard Churchill Alemao argue years back that 300,000 people earning a 
living from tourism in Goa. If you take Goa's total population, subtract 
the elderly and children and unemployed, you would find that there 
probably aren't so many people left to work... even assuming tourism could 
absorb so many!

The figure of 20 lakh (two million) tourists visiting Goa a year was first 
claimed by the controversial tourism former director N Suryanarayana. We 
know that there are no statistics kept of people entering Goa by road or 
rail, and neither do many medium and smaller-level hotels or guest 
houses report report occupancies.

Apart from Goans who have resided in Pakistan -- who get harassed quite a 
bit for no fault of their own -- how many of those visiting Goa would 
recall being asked to fill a form that could go into creating 
carefully-maintained statistics?

When we asked tourism officials as to how exactly they arrived at the 
figures of tourism arrivals some time back, they were hard-pressed to give 
an answer.

These are just guestimates (often, exaggerations) which after being 
repeated on many occasions, get life of their own. Earnings from tourism, 
in an economy which has so much under-reporting, untaxed incomes and a 
grey-market economy, is speculative at best or a gross exaggeration.

To talk about Goa's foreign exchange earnings is misleading too. Foreign 
exchange was a valuable commodity in the past; not any more, you can get 
it easily even for frivolour purposes like a holiday abroad. Besides, the 
earnings go not to the State but to private pockets. FN

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, Philip Thomas wrote:
Can someone tell us why the 500 crore INCREASE in foreign exchange 
THIS fiscal year? And how much has translated into increased state tax
receipts? This 500 crore (increase) is into Goa's local economy spent 
by tourists' consumers at the retail level. And of course this does not
include the tourist expenditures by Indians / non-foreigners who visit
Goa. They are reported / estimated to be 60% of Goa's tourists. We are
told this year, IFFI and SFX exposition cost the Goa government 125
crore (75 + 50). By my calculations, and I hope the accountants come to
the same conclusions, that is some pretty good 'return on investment'
for native Goans. Please educate me otherwise. I am all ears. [Gilbert
Lawrence, Dec 27]

Not so fast! The Seminar issue is dated NOVEMBER 2004. Hence the 
material predates IFFI/SFX. The estimate of a Rs 500 cr increase in 
tourist FX earnings over the average figure of previous years (not the 
actuals for 2003-04) may be based on projected increases in tourist 
arrivals in Goa based perhaps on international trends etc. It would be 
premature to ascribe the increase in FX earnings to IFFI/SFX and 
conclude about good ROI from it.




[Goanet]GoanetReader -- When film-making gets a bigoted edge...

2004-12-28 Thread GoanetReader
When film-making gets a bigoted edge... Goa's anti-colonial stir retold

By Frederick Noronha

JUST BEFORE December 19, 2004 -- on the eve of another anniversary of the
end of Portuguese colonial rule in Goa -- an unusual controversy erupted in
the State of Goa. The State's government, run by the right-wing Bharatiya
Janata Party, had inspired, sponsored and circulated a film which it wanted
to be shown in schools across the small region of 1.4 million.

This video compact disc (VCD) was created in 2002, and has only now being
widely circulated and adequately noticed. Purported to be a documentary on
Goa's Liberation struggle -- as the anti-colonial drive against the
Portuguese is known here -- this movie claims to impart a patriotic message.
While it does offer a narration of the campaign against colonialism, it also
promotes a bigoted view of the past, stokes some hardly-subtle ideas of
religious hatred, and could only end up creating further suspicion in a
state otherwise known for living in relative peace and amity.

To be fair, Goa's history has been rife with religious, caste-based
and ethnic intolerance. Early Portuguese rule -- not the entire
duration -- was one phase of intense intolerance. But should history
be raked up selectively, with dubious intent? What is the political
goal of highlighting a slice of the past? Should taxpayers' money go
to interpret history only through the lenses of religious hate and
conflict? Above all, were the battles of the past only or primarily
about religion, as India's contemporary religious right is trying to
project?

BEYOND THE TRIVIA

Incidentally, the film doesn't open with the customary censors' certificate.
But let's not get caught up in the trivia. Goa's government claims the film
has been duly passed; this is not really the issue. Specially is one recalls
how the Central Board for Film Certification -- earlier called the Central
Board for Film Censorship -- was severely politicised during the six years
that the BJP ruled India, so much so that documentary, and not
fictionalised, films depicting the reality of the Gujarat carnage were
blocked during this period.

Says the start of the film, almost defensively: This film is based on facts
gathered from various books on history specially those dealing with the
freedom movement and liberation of Goa. Authenticated reports on the freedom
movement have also been gathered from freedom fighters of Goa and
Maharashtra who participated in this glorious movement.

So what does the film really depict?

Take a scene from the VCD. It opens thus. There's the sound of
guitars-strumming Western music. To a scenic if stereotyped shot of people
dancing on one of the tourist boats, the commentary introduced the region
with the usual cliches: Yeh hai Goa... khubsoorat... Then it talks about
the region as being a pavitra (holy) region. Cut to the shot of a temple.
Quickly we're told about the hamla (attack) and aggression committed by
colonialism. It's time for a picture of a church.

Subliminal messages come across through the screening. It depends what you
want to see in it. Non-BJP political parties in Goa have spoken out against
the projections of the VCD; those who see Goa's history as one based solely
on religious conflict have come out in defence of the VCD, citing specific
historical instances as a justification.

But that's not the issue. This VCD needs to be seen in its wider context.

Can we believe that this all is just a coincidence, and not the obvious
game-plan of the ideology of hate and conflict that has come to rule Goa by
a mix of intrigue and deceit. That too, in a state while never ever gave the
BJP a mandate or majority to rule, but where a mandate is being manufactured
through every trick in the book?

To the backdrop of violence and screams, silhouettes of Portuguese soldiers
are shown damaging Hindu religious icons. Guns entangle with temples in the
fast-changing visuals. We're told: hazaron mandir (thousands of temples)
were broken, and bhajans and kirtans were stopped in colonial times. Like
any stereotype, this is based in truth, but not the whole truth and just one
side of the picture being selectively narrated.

Conversions to Christianity in Goa are shown as being due entirely
to violence, trickery and fraud. Needless to say, this is another
persistent theme of the BJP-RSS and its ideological allies, who
believe people, even today, are being tricked into changing their
religion, and need to be protected with legislation and the
government machinery against changing it.

CRUCIAL FIRST ONE-THIRD

It's the first one-third of the documentary, supposedly about Goa's
Liberation struggle, which needs to be closely studied by those concerned
about the dangers of communalism spread by the state. Hindus are being shown
as attacked while at prayer, women are shown as being assaulted and 

[Goanet]Sleeper Coaches and Gay Stereotypes

2004-12-28 Thread Cecil Pinto
Samir Kelekar wrote:
It was not just impossible to climb into the sleeper but I cannot
fathom how two people can share the same sleeper, unless they are a husband
wife couple or gays/lesbians.

There is a logical, or prejudicial, fallacy to Samir's argument.
1) Why does he assume that only a husband-wife couple can share a sleeper? 
What about an unmarried boyfriend-girlfriend couple? Don't they share 
physical intimacy?

2) More important (and disturbing) is Samir's stereotyping of gays/lesbians 
which is a misrepresentation that a lot of us suffer from. We assume that 
all gays/lesbians are promiscuous. So if a gay is on a narrow sleeper with 
a straight/gay male he will be quite comfortable to rub bodies with a 
stranger? Whereas a straight man/woman would find such a situation 
uncomfortable. What makes us think that a gay/lesbian is comfortable with 
being in physical contact with a total stranger? Like straight people 
gays/lesbians have deep relationships and commitments too. All they have is 
a gender preference which does not necessarily mean that they are 
comfortable with ANY person of the same gender. The rules of attraction 
apply to gays and straights. It's time we stopped looking at gays as being 
universally promiscuous and immoral.

Cecil Pinto
Defender of Gay  Lesbian Rights
(specially lesbians!)
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[Goanet]Me - CAT

2004-12-28 Thread Cynthia Fernandes
~*~BIRTHDAY CHART~*~
by - ~ Gaurav Bhargava ~
January 01 - 09 ~ Dog
January 10 - 24 ~ Mouse
January 25 - 31 ~ Lion

February 01 - 05 ~ Cat
February 06 - 14 ~ Dove
February 15 - 21 ~ Turtle
February 22 - 28 ~ Panther
March 01 - 12 ~ Monkey
March 13 - 15 ~ Lion
March 16 - 22 ~ Mouse
March 23 - 31 ~ Cat
April 01 - 03 ~ Dog
April 04 - 14 ~ Panther
April 15 - 26 ~ Mouse
April 27 - 30 ~ Turtle
May 01 - 13 ~ Monkey
May 14 - 21 ~ Dove
May 22 - 31 ~ Lion
June 01 - 03 ~ Mouse
June 04 - 14 ~ Turtle
June 15 - 20 ~ Dog
June 21 - 24 ~ Monkey
June 25 - 30 ~ Cat
July 01 - 09 ~ Mouse
July 10 - 15 ~ Dog
July 16 - 26 ~ Dove
July 27 - 31 ~ Cat
August 01 - 15 ~ Monkey
August 16 - 25 ~ Mouse
August 26 - 31 ~ Turtle
September 01 - 14 ~ Dove
September 15 - 27 ~ Cat
September 28 - 30 ~ Dog
October 01 - 15 ~ Monkey
October 16 - 27 ~ Turtle
October 28 - 31 ~ Panther
November 01 - 16 ~ Lion
November 17 - 30 ~ Cat
December 01 - 16 ~ Dog
December 17 - 25 ~ Monkey
December 26 - 31 ~ Dove

If you are a Dog: A very loyal and sweet person.Your loyalty can never
be doubted. You are quite honest and sincere when it comes to your
attitude towards working. You are a very simple person, indeed.
Absolutely hassle free, humble and down-to-earth!! That explains the
reason why your friends cling on to you! You have a good taste for
clothes. If your wardrobe is not updated with what is trendy, you sure
are depressed. Popular and easy-going. You have a little group of
dignified friends,all of them being quality-personified.

If you are a Mouse: Always up to some sort of a mischief! The
mischievous gleam in your eyes is what makes you so cute and
attractive to everyone. You are an extremely fun-to-be-with kind of
person. No wonder, people seek for your company and look forward to
include you for all get-togethers. However, you are sensitive, which
is a drawback. People need to select their words while talking to you.
If someone tries to fiddle around and play with words while dealing
with you, it is enough to invite your wrath. God bless the person
then!

If you are a Lion: Quite contradictory to your name, you are a peace
loving person. You best try to avoid a situation wherein you are
required to fight. An outdoor person, you dislike sitting at one place
for a long duration. You are a born leader, and have it in you how to
tactfully derive work from people. You love being loved, and when you
receive your share of limelight from someone, you are all theirs
Well, well... hence some people could even take an advantage, flatter
you to the maximum and get their work done. So be careful.

If you are a Cat: An extremely lovable, adorable person, sometimes
shy,with a passion for quick wit. At times, you prefer quietness. You
love exploring various things and going into depth of each thing.
Under normal circumstances you're cool, when given a reason to, you
are like a volcano waiting to erupt. You're a fashion bird. People
look forward to you as an icon associated with fashion. Basically, you
mingle along freely but don't like talking much to strangers. People
feel very easy in your company. You observe care in choosing your
friends.

If you are a Turtle: You are near to perfect and nice at heart.The
examples of your kindness are always circulated in groups of
people.You, too, love peace. You wouldn't like to retaliate even to a
person who is in the wrong. You are loved due to this. You do not wish
to talk behind one's back. People love the way you always treat them.
You can give, give and give love, and the best part is that you do not
expect it back in return.You are generous enough. Seeing things in a
practical light is what remains the best trait of you guys.

If you are a Dove: You symbolize a very happy-go-lucky approach in
life. Whatever the surroundings may be, grim or cheerful, you remain
unaffected.In fact, you spread cheer wherever you go. You are the
leader of your group of friends and good at consoling people in their
times of need. You dislike hypocrisy and tend to shirk away from
hypocrites. They can never be in your good books, no matter what. You
are very methodical and organized in your work. No amount of mess,
hence, can ever encompass you. Beware, it is easy for you to fall in
love

If you are a Panther: You are mysterious. You are someone who can
handle pressure with ease, and can handle any atmosphere without going
berserk.You can be mean at times, and love to gossip with your
selected group.Very prim and proper. You like all situations and
things to be in the way you desire, which, sometimes is not possible.
As a result, you may lose out in some relationships. But otherwise,
you love to help people out from difficult and tight spots when they
really need you.

If you are a Monkey: Very impatient and hyper!!! You want things to be
done as quick as possible. At heart, you are quite simple and love if
you are the center of attraction. That way, you people are unique You
would like to keep yourself safe from all the angles. 

[Goanet]Velankanni: Death in the churchyard! (killer tsunami)

2004-12-28 Thread JoeGoaUk
George Iype in Velankanni | December 28, 2004 14:51 IST (Rediff)

It was a watery death for hundreds of pilgrims thronging the Basilica of Our 
Lady of
Good Health, the famous Catholic pilgrim centre in Velankanni in coastal south
India, on the Sunday after Christmas.

We are still pulling out bodies from the beach. It would have been celebration 
at
this time of the year in our church. But sadly, our shrine has suddenly turned 
out
to be a burial ground, says Father P Xavier, rector of the shrine.
 
Every year some 20 million pilgrims flock to the shrine from all over India and
abroad. Many offer candles in the shape of affected organs, and most return with
stories of miraculous healing of their ailment.

Hundreds return with small organ replicas in gold and silver to thank the 
Mother for
healing them. Offerings, addressed to the shrine, are also occasionally thrown 
into
the sea in sealed bottles or hollow bamboo.

December 26, Sunday. 9.30am.

It was meant to be a day of celebration. It was the beginning of the holiday 
season,
and thousands, including the sick and the infirm, had come to pray at the 
shrine.

The Tamil mass in the shrine was over and the Malayalam mass had begun. 
Hundreds of
Malayalis from neighouring Kerala were attending mass and tragedy struck.

Those on the shore scurried for cover from the wall of water. But the force of 
the
waves blew most of them away. Though the waves receded in the same lightening 
speed
that it had come, hundreds were caught in the swirling waters and pulled back 
into
the sea.

But the killer tsunami crashed into the beach, the shrine's compound and nearby
villages and hundreds of shops, homes and pilgrims were washed away into the 
sea.

The otherwise busy shrine on the seashore now wears a deserted look.

The compound wall of the church collapsed under the force of the waves. The 
seawater
did not enter the shrine because it is on a higher plane compared to the beach.

But the waves took way hundreds of pilgrims who were on the beach.

The water gushed into the main road and arterial lanes leading to the shrine,
inundating several shops and houses.

We have no idea how many people died. But I have been leading rescue teams all 
day
and night. We have extricated more than 300 bodies, says Father Xavier.

Rescue teams led by church authorities and the Nagapattinam district 
administration
continue to scour for bodies in the sand and rocks strewn all over the place.

Heartrending scenes could be seen in the coastal villages around the shrine as
rescue teams pulled out the bodies.

A large number of bodies are yet to be unidentified.

The church authorities have now begun digging mass graves to bury the pilgrims.

 




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[Goanet]OPINION: Editorial Herald - 28Dec04

2004-12-28 Thread Bosco D'Mello
LET'S  GO  FORWARD

Does Goa want to go ahead or backward? Does Goa want to disintegrate because of
some hidden agenda or does it want to rise above the rest of India. Consider the
controversial Department of Education CD, which has just been released and is
raising a ruckus all over the State. What is hypocritical of the entire CD is
only one sided and does not show the positive side of the community and the
country? Guaranteed Portugal, when it took over Goa did commit many grave
mistakes but to keep harping on these mistakes shows a lack of foresight. Yes,
there was intolerance toward the followers of other religions. And agreed there
were 40 armed revolts in Goa, which were put down with a heavy hand. But by
rehashing the gory details of the past what is Goa trying to achieve -
progression or regression by creating divisions of hatred in Goan soceity.

No doubt Goa has progressed on its own and compared to the situation under
Portuguese rule, Goa has now seen a high level of social development - as
reflected by its high literacy, low birth rate, improved health care, and
educational facilities. But let us not forget that the Portuguese have
contributed something, which has made Goa stand out from the rest of the
country? How come everyone has forgotten about the Uniform Civil Code, which is
applicable to all communities irrespective of religion? How convenient it is
that people have forgotten the communidade land system, which sustained 
villages?

How come people have forgotten the low rates of law and order then? There are
many other aspects, which have been conveniently forgotten, and to rake up
certain issues is hypocritical and wrong.

Perhaps the only logic behind recreating such images is maybe to fuel somebody's
perverted agenda. An agenda, which began in early 1999 with new claims on
churches, supposedly old temples, must now be taken over by the RSS. It does not
matter to the Sangh Parivar that India had, in 1962, successfully liberated Goa
from the Portuguese. In the Sangh Parivar's lore, Goa still remains unliberated
because it retains signs of Christianity and a very big number of Goans are
Christians by faith.

And before we start labeling communities let us just consider one thing - it was
the Portuguese who gave us western style buildings and culture. It was the
Portuguese who gave Goa an ambience, which is similar to Cannes. And it is
because of this atmosphere, people voted in favour of IFFI, of which the credit
is going to others not the people who brought in the ambience. So let us not be
hypocritical and close our eyes. Let Goa progress, by not creating divisions,
and do not distribute CDs which will make Goa regress.


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2004-12-28 Thread domnic fernandes
“Zo konn fuddem pollenam to fattim urta.”
(He, who does not look ahead, remains behind.)
Moi-mogan,
Domnic Fernandes
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[Goanet-news]29 DEC 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS

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GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
December 29, 2004

   THOUGHT FOR THE DAY: Zo konn fuddem pollenam to fattim urta. (He who
does not look ahead, remains behind.) domnic fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

TSUNAMI TOLL SWELLS: Inclusive of the over 7,500 dead in India, the total
toll in all the seven tsunami-affected countries in South and South East
Asia galloped close to 55,000. Of this, Indonesia, whose Sumatra island was
close to the epicentre of the quake, alone accounted for about 2,174 deaths.
(GT)

NO TOURIST EXODUS: Addressing reporters on December 28 State Tourism
Minister Matanhy Saldanha described reports about tourists fleeing Goa as
'biased and malicious'. He reaffirmed that the situation in the State was
normal and that on the contrary foreign charter operators were inquiring
whether they could divert Thailand-bound passengers to Goa. (GT)

RS.50 LAKH FOR TSUNAMI VICTIMS: The government has announced an amount of
Rs.50 lakh as aid for the victims of Tsunami disaster. Chief Minister
Manohar Parrikar said that it might adopt a village raved by the tidal waves
on the lines of Deogad in Gujarat, which Goa government had helped to
rebuild. He said that he would donate his month's salary and speak to other
MLAs and Goa Government Employees Association in a bid to increase the
contribution. (GT)

IT'S A CHOCK-A-BLOCK NEW YEAR: With the tourist season reaching its peak and
the inbound travel picking up like never before, the Tourism industry is
seen celebrating to the anecdote that India has crossed the much hyped 3
million mark. Goa handles about 90 per cent of charter traffic and about 30
charter slots have been booked every week for the six-month spell in Goa,
compared to 23 slots last year. According to sources, the current hotel room
supply across Goa could fall short to meet the anticipated annual demand
growth of 25 per cent. (H)

JAMIR KICKS OFF GOA GRIND: Goa's very own attempt at sealing its place as
the party destination to the world, and also in the record books, took off
to a flying start at the Radisson White Sands Resort, on December 28. The
65-hour long party is an attempt to break the Guinness Record and was also
inaugurated by the Goa Governor, SC Jamir. The Governor not only launched
the show but also danced a few steps at the gravity Pool nightclub. (GT)

CM CHALLENGES SCRIBES OVER RAVE PARTIES: Throwing the gauntlet at the media,
the chief Minister Manohar Parrikar said, If you inform me of a rave party
when it is on, I will come in my private vehicle. When it was pointed out
that drugs are sold during the rave parties, he said, You show me, I will
take action immediately. Newspapers had carried reports in the last few
days about rave parties happening in Anjuna-Vagator. (H)

SCREENING OF FILM WAS OPTIONAL: CM: Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar said the
screening of the film on Goa's freedom struggle on Liberation Day had not
been made compulsory in schools and a copy of the VCD had been sent to the
institutions for their record. (GT)

SCREENING OF FREEDOM STRUGGLE VCD: In the continuing series of their highly
informative History Series, the Xavier Centre of Historical Research,
Porvorim, will screen the Goa Freedom Struggle VCD and hold an open forum
on it on January 6, 2005, at 5.30 pm. The event is open to all. Tel:
2417772/2414971 (delio [EMAIL PROTECTED])

NO MORE FLOATING CASINOS: The State government will henceforth not grant
permission for opening of floating casinos, either anchored in the waters of
its rivers or along its coastline. Presently, there is only one floating
casino, Caravela anchored in River Mandovi, which has the permission of the
authorities. The Chief Minister, Mr Manohar Parrikar, informing the pressmen
about the decision said, however, the luxury liners or cruises having
casinos, and either passing along the State's coastline or temporarily
anchored on the Goan harbours, will not face any legal action. (NT)

CHARAS SEIZED: A police team of Anti-Narcotic Cell conducted a raid near
Calangute bus stand and seized 3.330 kgs of charas from one Dipesh Buddha
Thoki. The value of the charas is estimated at Rs.3.33. (GT)

ATTENTION CROSSLITES: It's going to be a reunion of hearts, a fusion of
minds, to golden memories we left behind. So fasten your seatbelts and
before its too late, lets meet one another and make it a day to remember!
2nd January, 2005 at 5 pm to 11 pm. At Holy Cross High School, Siolim, Goa.
For more information contact Teacher Vilma (0832 2272632) or Headmistress Sr
Jennifer (0832 2270304 or 0832 2272244) Olympio