[Goanet-news] Goa news for September 11, 2006
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*** Goa set to be gambler's paradise (NDTV Profit)
Ten new offshore casinos and Goa is set to become a gambler's
paradise but casino companies are already asking for more.
http://www.ndtvprofit.com/homepage/storybusinessnew.asp?
template=whichstory=nid=33363
*** Cong chants satyagraha (Deccan Herald)
With the BJP deciding to cash in on the Vande Mataram
controversy by making it one the main planks of the partys
campaign during the forthcoming assembly elections in five
states #147; Uttar Pradesh, Uttaranchal, Punjab Goa, and
Manipur #147; the Congress has planned a new strategy.
http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/sep112006/index212512006910.asp
*** UB venture harvesting rainwater to tackle Goa water crisis
(The Hindu)
PANAJI: United Breweries Ltd, Goa, a venture of Mr Vijay
Mallya-led UB group, is harvesting rainwater in the state to
tide over water crisis. Scientific rainwater harvesting has
helped us to cope with the water demand.
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/businessline/blnus/27091406.htm
*** UB venture harvesting rainwater to tackle Goa water crisis
(New Kerala)
Panaji, Sep 9: United Breweries Ltd Goa, a venture of Vijay
Mallya-led UB Group, is harvesting rainwater in the state to
tide over water crisis. Scientific rainwater harvesting has
helped us to cope with the water demand.
http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnewsid=19224
*** Goa govt not keen to have too many casinos: Rane (The
Economic Times)
PANAJI: Soft-peddling the issue of setting up of off-shore
casinos, the Goa government has said that they were not keen to
have too many of them in the state.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1970168.cms
*** Goa approves pension liability fund (New Kerala)
Panaji, Sept 8: Injecting fiscal reforms in the system, Goa
cabinet approved creation of pension liability fund with a
provision of Rs 135 crore for the current financial year.
http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnewsid=18632
*** Goa govt not keen to have too many casinos: Rane (New
Kerala)
Panaji, Sept 8: Soft-paddling the issue of setting up of
off-shore casinos, the Goa government has said that they were
not keen to have too many of them in the state.
http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnewsid=18613
*** Goa Football League: Anthony stars in Dempo's win (New
Kerala)
Duler, Sept 9: Anthony Pereira's hat-trick guided Dempo Sports
Club to an emphatic 4-1 victory over Vasco which helped them
move to the top of the table in the Goa Football Association
Professional League, played at Duler Ground, Mapusa, today.
http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnewsid=19345
*** Goa police on high alert (Navhind Times)
Panaji, Sept 8: With the central government sounding alert all
along the west coast following blasts in Malegaon in
Maharashtra, the Goa police force has been put on high alert
geared up to face any eventuality.
http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=090918
*** Churchill convenes convention of Cong workers from S Goa
(Navhind Times)
Margao, Sept 9: Expressing displeasure over the functioning of
his own partys government in the state, the South Goa MP, Mr
Churchill Alemao, has called for a convention of Congress
workers from South Goa on September 23, in Margao, to chalk out
future course of action, in an apparent bid to consolidate his
position.
http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=091025
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Re: [Goanet] The PurpleYellow re Shastikar/ Response to Roland
Dear Roland, If you are to rag on the shastikars, at least you must get the pronunciation of words right:)) It is patice, the plural of which is pronounced paticesses, with much emphasis on the esses, using all the Portuguese inflection stress on the S. Who fights about crabs at the local market (read tinto)? We have so many better things to fight about, there are the day's mukta numbers, why Angeline's blouse is not cut deep enough, where Angeline gets all her gold from, why Filu's daughter is friendly with Joe's son, he's a bamon you know and her father just a poder chardo mure, arre kitten re saiba. Sheesh, you Bardezkars don't know anything about us. It's like living in a different country. I call for a separation of North and South Goa. Let the Independence movement begin. Liberation day should be somewhere in August, Sunneacho muinno and all that. :)) selma - --- Roland Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for the fights going on at such solemn occasions, what's new about it? Shastikars are always fighting, no matter what. At the village social it's my wife didn't get the patties, at the village school it's my son didn't get the front desk and at the village market it's why did they get the bigger crabs? If fights didn't happen at the village Church, it would have surprised everyone. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Talking Photos: Mayem Lake, Arvalem Caves, Waterfall etc etc (Plus prev. Answer)
Helga, You could look it up on the Timeout website (www.timeout.com). But I must warn you that it is paid site! Reena Helga do R. Gomes wrote: Hi Fred, I looked at your photos and they are great - National Geog. standard! You guys should know that Smithsonian Magazine has a competition every year with categories like People, Nature etc. In the meantime it would be great if we could come up with a common tag for your and JoeUK's excellent photos so goanetters and their friends could browse and decide what they want to do and see in Goa. Otherwise everyone ends up at the same old places! You once sent an email with suggestions of small restaurants especially in the Novas Conquistas. I cant find the email now although I though I saved it. Also while we are on the subject VM de Malar published some great articles in Time Out Mumbai (Dec 2005 issue) which recommend some excellent restaurants (even a Burmese one) and historic sites like the little known Croatian chapel in Cumbarjua which I visited quite by chance for a funeral. How do you get this issue of Time Out? Good Question! Let's leave it to Fred and VM! Helga Great idea, Helga. We could decide on some common tags. And then suitably change those for whoever wants to join in. We could also build a photolist on Flickr. Maybe we could call it *Goanet*, to make the network identifiable among people connected with Goanet. FN PS: My collection is close to 5000 (many linked to Goa, but I've ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] [Goanet-news] Portugal slaps more curbs on passports for Goan residents (Devika Sequeira/Deccan Herald)
Portugal slaps more curbs on passports for Goan residents Panaji: New regulations recently brought in by the Portuguese government will shut the doors on many in Goa who have queued up for years to acquire a Portuguese passport. Official correspondence sent to applicants through the Portuguese Consulate in Goa and made available to this newspaper says Portuguese passports will henceforth be issued only to those who hold a Portuguese identity card or an old Portuguese passport issued by the erstwhile Portuguese regime in Goa. Diplomatic sources in New Delhi said though the new rules were not legally valid, they were being implemented under pressure from the European Union to make it extremely difficult for Indians to apply. Yes, and to be more precise, by the Northern states of the E.U., especially Great Britain, the Netherlands, and probably Denmark (though you won't see many Goans there). Great Britain is the most rabid. Under Portuguese law, those born in Goa, Daman and Diu (former Portuguese enclaves) before December 19, 1961 (when the Liberation took place), are entitled to Portuguese nationality. Until now, all it required was an officially authenticated photocopy of the original birth certificate to apply. A senior Congress leader who did not wish to be identified has described the new regulations as racially biased and aimed at keeping coloured people from taking up jobs in EU countries. Absolutely true! Portugal's move comes ironically at a time when the country has been liberally issuing passports to the Macau Chinese. Portugal handed Macau back to China on December 20, 1999, 442 years after it took over the tiny enclave. It had held on to Goa for 451 years. To the immense annoyance of Great Britain, which went to great length (including delusion) not to grant the same to Chinese inhabitants of Hong Kong prior to the 1997 handover. If they go unchallenged, the new rules framed by Portugal's Conservatoria dos Registos Centrais (Central Registry Office) will quash the hopes of thousands of applicants from Goa, Daman and Diu. Officials said 12,000 applications for nationality were being processed through the Goa consular office alone. An equal number are in queue to initiate the process. It is no secret that thousands of Indians (many not of Goan origin) have used the Portuguese passport as a route to menial jobs in England, Germany, France and Belgium. Diplomatic sources, however, hold Portugal's central registry responsible for the corruption and inefficiency in the system. ___ Goanet-news mailing list Goanet-news@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-news-goanet.org ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] NEW AMENDMENTS TO CPA
To make the Consumer Protection Act more dynamic to take on the emerging challenges of a liberated economy and E-Business,a working group was set up in Jan04. The Department of Consumer Affairs is now reported to have framed the following: 1)E-Commerce- a)Service Providers will be bound to refund buyers, who did not have the opportunity to inspect goods prior to purchase, within 30days if goods and services are found defective. Overseas Sites/Telemarketing Agencies must have an office/agent in India. b)Buyer can file Complaint against any faraway Company in the Consumer Forums in area in which he/she resides. No need for any approvals/permissions and complaints maybe made by E-mail c)Court Fees maybe paid online. 2)Other Services- a) Changes to include Shares,Real Estate Services, Municipal,Health, medical Services EVEN IF FREE. b)Refusal to issue cash memo/bill is unfair Trade Practice offence 3)Privacy- Consumers privacy protected. Disclosure of personal information given in confidence is construed as Deficiency of Service! 4)More Teeth to existing provisions cutting down on redressal periods with heavier fines and putting Consumer and Seller on equal footing. It is also reported to be coming up for Cabinet approval next month.It is hoped that vested interests will not be able to dilute these proposed amendments by the time they come up for passing in the winter session of Parliament. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] GAIECHEA HADDANCHO SOP (BEEF-BONE SOUP) - Konkani/English article!
GAIECHEA HADDANCHO SOP (English translation follows) Adlea tempar jem kitem ami kortaleanv tem sogllem eke manddavollir astalem; jevonn-khann pasun ek manddavoll zavn gelli. Gelea xekddeache panchve ani sove dosken vhoddlim jevnnam jevn ami voir soronk nant. Thoddench jevtaleanv punn ruchichem ani ghottaiechem. Dispottem jevonn zobor nhoi aslem. Sokallim utton chav ani chaek tupan bazleleo bakri ani kednaim bakri barabor bazlelem tantim. Antrea-poirean amchi maim chunancheo kailovieo kortali ani kednaim nachnneancheo bakri vo nachnneanchi ambil ani toxich kednaim chun ghalun muganchi pez ani kednaim mannnnos. Heo soglleo vostu itleo ghottaien bhorleleo ki ami iskolak thavn portun ghora eisor amkam bhuk lagonasli. Donparchea jevnnank sodanch ukddea tandulanchem xit, nisteachi koddi, bazlelem nistem ani torkari. Jevonn zalea uprant ghorant aslelim follam zoxe porim kellim, ambo, popai, anteram, anenes, peram, ponnnnos, adi eke boxen dovrun soglleank vanttalint. Ratchea jevnnank, tajem xit randtalint ani jem kitem donparam randlelem urlam tem ratik jevtalint. Amchea dhorman boroilelem asam Aitar-Sontak kam korum naie ani toxench amcho avoi-bapui ani zanttim kortalint. Aitaradis maim bhakri korinasli; poderache undde vinkte ghetali. Punn Aitarachem jevonn mat dusrech torechem astalem. Sonvaradis Congotte bazarak vochon amcho avoi-bapui gaiechem mas ani tachea sangata don kilo tori haddam haddtalint. Amchi maim gaiechea masacho jirea-mireacho prat sizoitali ani to kaddun xinkear dovortali dusrea disa khavnk. Sonvaradis donparchem jevonn zalea uprant, haddam eka voddlea tizalan ghalun chulir domttea ujear sizonk dovortalint. Eka lugttachea kuddkean mutt bhor akki confir ghaltalint, tachi ek pottli bandtalint ani ti pottli tizalant uddoitalint. Toxech thodde holldiche ani tikeche kuddke ani kaim calafuram tizalan ghaltalint. Sanz passun tim haddam sizon tankam lagon aslelem mas ani chichddam itlim mov zatalint ki amchean tim sompeponnim ghans marun kaddunk zatalint; haddanchea bhitor tuton aslelem pasun bhair sortalem. Sopachea voir vos ufeta ti amkam distali punn tednam cholestrol-achi konn porva kortalo? Randpan favo tea pormonnem losunnicho upeog kelelean cholestrol nivllavn voitalem. Dusrea disa, Aitara, sumar dha horar amchi maim tea haddancho sop kortali. Haddanchea sopak zobor kaim vaprinaslint. Eka kullnnean vo handdien khobreachem tel ghaltalint ani tantun ek kando sovsaitalint; kednaim ek tamot ghaltalint ani uprant tizalantlo soglo kald te handdient votoitalint. Uprant tantun amchi chodda avddechi vost Letri ghaltalint. Letri itli amche avddechi asli torui astannam ami ti sopa barabor khainaslint; ti kuleran kuxin kaddun, vattlen ghalun eke vollin ami sogllim akxeram ekttaim korun dovortalint ani soglli ABC manddun toiear zalea uprantuch ti ami khatalint. Mhaka khuimcheai akxearanchi komi poddlear hanv moje bhoinnim kodde magon ghetalom ani tika komi poddlear ti moje kodde magon getali. Haddam sizon kabar zalea uprant tim ghevn ami bostalint ani sunneam porim tankam ghans marun, lenvon-chinvon ami tim khatalint. Bhitorlem tuton bhair soronam zalear fatnincho fator haddancher marun tache kuddke kortalint ani tuton sur-r-r korun tonddan voddun getalint ani gilltalint. Chodd vell haddam ghevn boslear maim amkam osso vinchar kortali: Arre, haddam passun tuvem chinvon khallint zalear sunneank kitem urtelem? Titlean ami lojen haddam chinvpachem bond kortalint ani mekllim haddam sunneank uddoitalint. Khoreaninch te adle dis ekdom yadiche. Toslo sop aiz-kal konn korinam ani ti Letrii atam mellonam. Atam fottkiro domdom ghalun jinsavar aitim sopachim pekittam bazaran vikrek melltat punn tancho valor tea adlea gaiechea haddanchea sopak sor korinozo zo ghottaien bhorlolo! Dumingachea pornea kallachea chovkar thavn soddeak itlench! Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA == BEEF-BONE SOUP! Whatever we did in the past, we did it in an organized manner; even the food was well-organized! In the 5th and the 6th decades of the last century we didn't grow up by eating great meals. We ate less but we ate good, nutritious food. Daily food was not that great. For morning tea, we had ghee-covered bakri (hand made bread); sometimes, we ate a fried egg with it. Every now and then our mother would prepare kailovieo (ground rice mixed with grated coconut); sometimes she prepared nachnneancheo bakri (hand made bread out of ground millets) or nachnneanchi ambil (sweet dish made from ground millets and jaggery) or chun ghalun muganchi pez (sweet dish made from green grams with grated coconut); mann'nnos (a kind of local cake) was also prepared once in a while. All these things are so nutritious that we didn't feel hungry until we returned home from school for lunch. For lunch we always had ukddea tandulanchem xit (boiled rice,) fish curry, fried fish and vegetables.
Re: [Goanet] Hospitality begins at home (Cecil Alfred)
Ah Alfred, How could any housewife harried or otherwise deal sternly with you. In fact the Association of Harried Housewives has commissioned me to dub you Poet Emeritus of the Harried Housewives. Now that the two Pintos are getting into election mode, may we beseech your services to render odes and paens of praise to the two prospective MLAs? And thank you kindly sir, but for the moment, we shall dispense with your generous offer of surstroming (don't want to drive away our prospective voters you see, we Goans are only used to the delicious whiff of our timeless favourite hare). Now Cecil, the Association of Harried Housewives would unaminously wish to bestow upon you a generous cash award. But alas and alack the bad news is that all our members are the better halves of the Association of Stingy Spouses. So all we can offer you is an abundance of gratitude and our sincere and heartfelt appreciation. However the offer of the felicitation functions still stands and are in the process of being organised. And yes, considering the pressure our families put us desperate housewives and househusband through, I think the pressure cooker election symbol would be most appropriate and fitting. Now that so many new groups in Goa are putting up political candidates for the next elections, I am sure the Harried /Desperate Housewives/Househusband can form a formidable and influential constituency. Looking forward to our political association Diana P.S. Do you have any offdays from your house husbanding. A change of workplace scenario might do you good. I have a couple of loads of clothes that are in dire need of washing and drying. Please please please. Alfred de Tavares wrote : For rendering this exquisite service to your homewifely otgies I hope, and devoutly pray, that you do not deal with me as your stern namesake dealt with poor Acteon for beholding her charms that sweet Venus would have ever so willingly unveiled for him... Yours, ever so hopefully prayerfully, yet to be dubbed, Alfred ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Take your supporters, and your religious wars, elsewhere
Kevin Saldanha wrote: Secular Goa is NOT a discussion group. It is tightly moderated with a narrow focus. GoenchimXapotam, however, is another Yahoogroup that has an open discussion policy without restrictions. Those interested in pursuing arguments which may be considered 'off-topic' or too hot for GoaNet can join it by sending a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Kevin, At the time I left GoenchimXapotam earlier this year it seemed like almost all the liberals on the group had a fixation with Mario, i.e. there wasnt' a day that went by without several posters taking pot shots at Mario Goveia. (Similar to Goanet in that respect.) Has it changed much? Peter ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Science as a religion (Frederick FN Noronha)
Dear Fredrick, You very rightly state that if people wish to believe anything, let them do so, as long as it makes them better persons in the real world, what's wrong?. It should be remembered that, this coin too has two sides. I believe that this debate has seen mocking of belief's on both sides. You could start a whole new debate about the long list of myths promoted by science but always remember that Science is one of the schemes of thought that is most open to criticism and change(through logical argument). This is more than can be said of the various dogmas that are the causes of the strife we see in the world today. Also your statement that the understanding of Science is still incomplete seems a bit off the mark. It is the understanding of the universe/world through science that is incomplete not Science itself. The so called conflict between religion and science sometimes begins when over zealous religionists try to use science as an intellectual crutch to validate/promote their beliefs. This naturally results in a strong backlash from scientists. We have seen numerous examples of this on Goanet. Regards Sunith Velho The current state of neuroscientific understanding is, may I suggest, wholly irrelevant to people's beliefs and faiths. So why mock them? People should be free to believe in whatever they choose, even if it is not validated by that modern God With Feet Of Clay, Science. Firstly, the understanding of Science is still incomplete, 'work in progress' and subject to corrections. More importantly, these are special fields of endeavour so it's unfair to judge one by the other. Lastly, if people wish to believe anything, let them do so, as long as it makes them better persons in the real world, what's wrong? Maybe we should start searching out the long list of myths promoted by the world of Science... but that's way off-topic. FN ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Goanet News: India's Florida... Realty hotspot... Sun, sand and slums (Devika Sequeira in the Deccan Herald)
Deccan Herald Sunday Herald India's Florida: Jostling for the spoils of tourism [Send your feedback to the writer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] DS Thirty years ago it took three bus changes and a long walk through lush paddy fields to get to Anjuna beach. Thirty years ago it took three bus changes and a long walk through lush paddy fields to get to Anjuna beach. The hub of global tourism in Goa, Anjuna, where heroin and psychedelia mixed with indolence and the sun to give birth to Goa trance and the rave rage, was as isolated as it could get. The fields have today given way to a landscape scarred by construction and a glut of commercialisation that threatens to devour even the small beach that is now used by hordes of hawkers and flea market squatters as an open toilet. Garbage is strewn all over, as in the rest of the tourist coast in Goa that has become the worst casualty of the crass greed of panchayat members. Density of settlement is the highest in Goa around Baga, Calangute, Candolim, and Anjuna. Over 250 coastal regulation zone (CRZ) violations have been identified here alone by the tourism department last month. At the nerve-centre of Goa's tourism, where locals jostle with Lambanis, Kashmiris, Rajasthanis and now foreigners to do business, tempers are beginning to fray as the competition gets more frantic and the coast more tacky. Congress MLA and sarpanch of Candolim village Agnelo Fernandes worries that no one is doing anything about the influx of foreigners and outsiders elbowing in into businesses along the coast. Foreigners are running pubs, guest houses, shacks, restaurants, boat rides, sight-seeing tours and even hiring out motorbikes. They have no RBI clearance and pay no taxes. If they take over all the small businesses, what will locals do? he asks. Fernandes' panchayat recently turned down a foreigner's application to run a five-room guest house even though the party had RBI sanction for the business. The influx is driving land prices to giddy heights, he says. British resident Dave Gower agrees that foreigners should stay away from businesses where Goans are involved. But Goans, he says, are to a large extent responsible. They are mourning the changes, but they are the ones who have been selling their houses and land. For other Indians, Goa is India's Florida, and whether you like it or not, it is the foreigners who have made the place valuable. Take the foreigners out of Goa and Goa would lose, he says. Not everyone agrees. Over the last three months, the state government has deported 26 foreigners, most of them Israelis and Russians linked to the drug trade and the Russian land mafia. Some were running discos and beach shacks under falsely registered companies, said deputy inspector general of police Ujjwal Mishra. [Deccan Herald * August 20, 2006] * * * * * * * * * * Deccan Herald Sunday Herald � Detailed Story Goa: Realty hotspot DS Right now, there's only one way real estate is headed in Goa: northwards. And as land rates make new highs almost daily, local builders too are beginning to feel the heat of big-time entrants from outside. Right now, there's only one way real estate is headed in Goa: northwards. And as land rates make new highs almost daily, local builders too are beginning to feel the heat of big-time entrants from outside. Prices are spiralling not every month, but every fortnight, says builder Dinar Tarcar who is finding the business too hot to handle these days. Were he to buy land at these inflated rates, his Rs 40 crore company could collapse in a crash, he fears. One of the biggest land deals made here recently surprised even the government. The land auction by its subsidiary Economic Development Corporation (EDC) fetched Rs 90 crore for 18,120 square metres at Panjim's Patto Plaza. On the Calangute coast, land stands now at Rs 7,000 to Rs 9,000 a sq metre, depending on beach access. One plot was sold recently for Rs 10,000 per sq metre, said MLA and Sarpanch Agnelo Fernandes. At seaside Dona Paula, equated with Mumbai's glitzy Malabar Hill, prices range from Rs 10,000 to Rs 22,000 per sq metre. Actor Shah Rukh Khan recently booked his piece of the Goan real estate pie at a manicured development there. Tarcar who sold seaview apartments here for Rs 12,000 sq metre (built-up) three years ago, says the same flats are being resold for Rs 40,000 per sq metre today. It is the deals made over gracious old Portuguese-style mansions that surprise one almost on a daily basis. One such house at Altinho in Panjim was bought recently by a Goan mineowner for around Rs 7 crore (Rs 70 million), say builders. August 20, 2006 [Deccan Herald] * * * * * * * * * * * Sun, sand and slums As more and more ‘outsiders’ make Goa their second home, locals worry that the beach city’s character will be lost given the pace of realty development. Devika Sequeira on the globalisation of Goa. It took novelist and psychoanalyst Sudhir Kakar and his wife Katharina
Re: [Goanet] Science as a religion - Mockery as per Frederick
--- Frederick \FN\ Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The current state of neuroscientific understanding is, may I suggest, wholly irrelevant to people's beliefs and faiths. So why mock them? Frederick, Could you tell me which sentence(s)in my post constituted mockery? Or is providing educational books and material is now considered mockery on Goanet? Cheers, Santosh ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Hospitality - Let's Party : Name, Symbol Slogan wanted
Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But for the record everyone here should know that I have never met Mervyn, leave alone hosted a meal for him. But when he does visit Goa I definitely will invite him over. Thanks, Cecil. I will bring my own food. I am aware of what Martha was charged with. She served her term, paid her dues, and has made a fantastic comeback that is only possible for a woman who is highly regarded. My respect for Martha Stewart has not diminished because of some 'paper' crime. Yep, you will become a real Goan politician. Please think of a good name for this party and a symbol and a suitable slogan. How about? 1) The Goan PARTY 2) A sitar and a guitar intertwined. 3) I am working on it. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Archives, patties, matka, cleavage - and the Salcete divide
Before Selma's call for a North Goa-South Goa divide explodes into a full fledged war all interested warriors are asked to first go through the archives before re-inventing the wheel. The correct spelling and syntax of 'pattis' has already been covered. Check: Apologetic Sausages and Incense http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2004-September/018372.html A friendly gesture to Salcete girls marring into North Goa has also been recorded.at: Adjusting to Bardez. Some tips http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2004-September/018237.html Directionally challenged Shashtikars are covered at: Asking for directions in Goa http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2003-November/007457.html Sausages, Feni and Bread differences are covered at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2004-October/019446.html http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2004-October/019530.html Matka numbers at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2004-October/019901.html Cleavage revealing dresses, caste issues, convent girl English etc etc. Almost every issue that Selma raises in her call-for-war post has been done to death already. But agreed she brings a rather refreshing naivety and a certain spiciness to the subjects. A good South Goa-North Goa war is always so much more satisfying than arguing about religion and USA politics. My only request is that to avoid repetition please run a search through GoaNet archives and bring in fresh perspectives instead of just repeating what has already been said so many times. May the best taluka win! Or as Domnic would say, Watch as the Sashtikars are made into hadancho sop! Cheers! Cecil = ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Goanet and religion bashing
joseph fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Prior to Mario Goveia joining Goanet, you used to lord over goanet and even hound members out (Alfred Tavares will attest to it) It will take time to sink in your mind that (as Gilbert Lawrence has adverted in a previous post) there is another Goan more smarter than you. Joseph Fernnades, IMHO, Cecil Pinto is the smartest Goan on this net. You come in a close second (unless, of course, you are not being facetious about the above.) Mervyn3.0 PS. I have never heard of any Goan called Fernnades. I hope this is your real name and not another fake ID. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] wedding planner
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[Goanet] Evidence of Mario's false statements
Mario wrote: After all Stalin, Mao, Ho, Pol, Fidel and Kim were and are still considered upstanding atheists. Aristo enquired: Mario, Can you please inform us who and when did anyone on Goanet stated that any of the above were upstanding? I would like to give them a piece of my mind, just as I did to Vivek! Mario in turn asks: In spite of my mentioning these tyrants several times, can you cite for me a single atheist on Goanet that has categorically repudiated or condemned their atrocities? Aristo responds: So in the world according to Mario, falsehoods become facts merely based on whether anyone fails to repudiate it or endorse the opposite! I must say, Devastating Logic! Which means, in the world according to Mario, everyone on Goanet (including silent members) who has not chided Nasci for his denigration of innocuous Hindu practices and the religion as a whole, can be safely assumed to agree with Nasci. So the above is clear evidence of Mario's false statements, that too, ironically on a thread titled Fake Quotes! --- Mario enquires: As a recent convert to atheism, please let us know how we would know that an atheist had lost his standing as an atheist by committing even gross atrocities. Aristo responds: Mario, an Atheist is still an Atheist after committing gross atrocities. My question was who considered them upstanding, but sadly, you have tried to distort my question. The meaning of upstanding is morally admirable. And FYI, I have been an atheist for the last 5 years, agnostic for 3 years before that. --- Aristo asked: Also, as for Fidel, I must admit that I am ignorant about his brutalities, besides imprisonment of his political opponents and dictatorship of course. As my 2nd request, can you please offer us some impartial (read non-american) and credible sources of information of his brutalities? Mario wrote: Where did you get the quaint idea that the non-American media is impartial?? Some are, others like Al Jazeera, Reuters and the BBC, are not. In this day and age, one has to follow a broad spectrum of news to get a sense of the truth, often by reading between the lines and picking up on what is not reported. Aristo responds: Surely my request for non-American sources is understandable in this particular case, given America's long standing prejudice against Cuba. Mario has the choice of the media of 242 countries besides America to make his case for Fidel Castro being a mass murderer. -- Mario wrote: I find it amusing to say the least that ALL you find wrong with Fidel's brutalities are the ...imprisonment of his political opponents and dictatorship Isn't that enough for someone like you who apparently wants freedom and democracy only for yourself? Perhaps the media you follow has omitted to mention the thousands of Cubans who risk their lives each and every year in rickety boats and rafts to escape from Cuba. Ask yourself why people would risk their lives to get away from a country, year in and year out, for decades now, even though some Canadian Goanetters marvel at Cuba's free education and health care and allegedly cutting-edge medical technology. Aristo responds: The other tyrants on Mario's list were genocidal mass murderer's. I am still ignorant about Fidel. Wikipedia states that thousands of Political Opponents were killed in 1959, but cites a source of an American Librarian named Matthew White. So the truth is still out there. And Mario's arguments above are mere rhetoric without any facts (or in the colourful language of my peers; all gas and no ! ;-)). And just for the sake of argument, the largest number of sea-faring illegal immigrants to the US are from the democratic Dominican Republic, per the American media itself. Mario wrote: As I have said before, I strongly suspect you either don't read what I say or are so busy interpreting what I say that you miss what I have clearly said altogether. Aristo responds: Mario, as I have said before, I strongly suspect you either don't read what you say or you don't practise what you preach. And for the record, I categorically condemn the mass murders by Stalin, Mao, Ho, Pol and Kim. As for Fidel, I am still ignorant about his alleged mass murders, which may very well be true. But I am aware of his unjust imprisonment of political opponents and Dictatorship, and I certainly do not endorse it and for the same reason, I do not consider Fidel as upstanding. And I fully support Nasci's stance against Casteism but nothing more. To all Goanetters, I will try to keep this as my last engagement with Mario for a while, unless he suckers me into responding again, which you can't hold against me. I apologise for having dragged on the Great Religion debate, but hope to avoid it like I successfully have with the Great Iraq debate. Cheers, Aristo. ___ Goanet mailing list
Re: [Goanet] Hospitality begins at home/to Alfred de Tavares
HI Selma, Goanetters have many diverse and often hidden talents. Did you hear the story of how Alfred Tavares found the bullet that killed Olof Palme? Maybe Alfred can share that story with us one day Or even the story of how Alfred cursed the honourable members of the Goa assembly? (I will be able to one day tell my grandchildren, I was there!) Alfred, btw, is the red rose still placed daily on the spot where Palme was killed? Remember your tours through the area in 1998, after our chance meeting on the train to that untypically Swedish skyscraper city of Hasslby. --FN On 11/09/06, Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Alfred, What a beautiful, beautiful post this was. I wonder if you have any of your poems published. I see I have found a fellow mythology lover as well. I am always so amazed to find so many diverse personalities on Goanet. How truly amazing Goans are, and the level of posts are really excellent. My recommended bedtime reading - Goanet. Selma --- Alfred de Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope, and devoutly pray, that you do not deal with me as your stern namesake dealt with poor Acteon for beholding her charms that sweet Venus would have ever so willingly unveiled for him... Yours, ever so hopefully prayerfully, yet to be dubbed, Alfred -- -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org 9822122436 +91-832-240-9490 http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] The New Goanet - an analysis /response to Selma (2)
--- Mario Goveia previously wrote: Pardon me if we cannot hold our breath while waiting for you, an avowed agnostic, to ...come across a post that I find offensive to my Catholic sensibilities... What Catholic sensibilities can an avowed agnostic claim to have?? Selma responded: So, there is no dichotomy in my statement. I am and will always be a Goan Catholic, culturally. Mario adds: Pardon me if I am skeptical about the commitment and interest of a cultural Catholic to defend the religion, not the culture, in front of others, when she has been unable to convince herself. We have proof of this when you were apparently unable to see the recent attack on all religions, while it was raging all around you. Mario previously wrote: Since you all have repudiated and devalued religion, including the ones you were born into, anything you say on the subject is biased by definition, and frequently offensive to the rest of us. So, why not quit the patronising and contemptuous and contradictory comments about religion and religious people and stick to opining on the several other issues that plague the world, as you have recommended to your forum adversary, Joe Vaz, but not to your friend, Santosh. Selma responded: Is that what you really want Mario? That we should quit discussing topics because they offend someone or the other. Then, so far I have been asked to quit commenting on Goa because I don't live there, quit commenting on America because it's off topic and now quit commenting on religion. So what topics does that eave me, Albert's pinag recipe and the GDP of Guatemala? Mario responds: In your post of September 5, you asked Joe Vaz why he was spending so much time responding to your friend Santosh's unprovoked flame baits on religion and religious people. You said Joe was being strange. Wasn't that asking Joe to quit discussing this topic? And, regarding your gross mischaracterization about me wanting to restrict you to Pinag recipes [which is a Goa-centric topic]and the GDP of Guatemala [which would be off topic] please revisit what I said to the Santosh character in my following post, and please remember this for future reference : http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-September/048072.html I wish you and everyone else on Goanet would just eschew these verbal mind games and stick to providing news and personal opinions and personal analyses as they see fit, avoid speaking on behalf of whole sections of people you don't even know as if the rest of us were born yesterday, and let others respond as they see fit, with the administrators as umpires. I don't even object to your frequent flame baits, unprovoked by anything said or discussed on Goanet, as long as the administrators do not obstruct the responses you did not get in the good old days of Goanet. [end of excerpt] So much for restricting you to Pinag recipes and off topic subjects. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Goanet and religion bashing
On 11/09/06, joseph fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7 Sep Santosh Helekar wrote: Every summer this Joe Vaz character performs an annual exercise of verbal abuse against me on Goanet. This time around he has ostensibly taken precious time off from his busy schedule to write a total of 5 trashy posts with the sole purpose of abusing me = My comments: Dear Santosh Prior to Mario Goveia joining Goanet, you used to lord over goanet and even hound members out (Alfred Tavares will attest to it) That's not true, Joseph Fernandes. Please don't try to hound off members by making all kinds of angry charges. Santosh lords over his own views. Don't all of us? I wish the arguments would be against ideas, and not against persons. FN -- -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org 9822122436 +91-832-240-9490 http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Interpreting Alfred's red herrings
Alfred Tavares (AT) wrote to Diana in his usual poetic language which I can't always comprehend as I'm not very cultured. Here is what I understood. If not Alfred maybe Selma, who seems to understand and appreciate poetry, could give a proper interpretation if mine is wrong. -- AT: Querida Flor, CP: Why ride a flower, --- AT: How you make me envy the intrepid Cecil! How could I qualify. CP: How you make me envy the intrepid Cecil! How could I qualify. --- AT: Here in Sweden I have, over nigh four decades, picked up not inconsiderable expertise in consoling ... comforting...cajoling harried...harrassed...heated housewives. CP: These Swedish babes After four decades Of sowing my wild oats Sometimes they're married But so very harried And sometimes they look like goats AT: Could render worthy service to revive bloom into jilting lilies your side. CP: Add a sugar solution to cut water. This will revive a cut flower arrangement. --- AT: Would that qualify moi for your sireship a la Cecil??? CP: In my old age I wish to procreate and will woo you by sending flowers through EXPRESSIONS. -- AT: And since our Helga, Selma and other gourmets are castigating the noble mayonnais, for its metamorphosis from putrification, I promise to add piquant variety to your festive smorgasbord by introducing the famed Swedish piscine delicacy: surstroming, herrigs in pretty advance stages of decomposition. CP: Too many of those other cooks will spoil the soup. While they argue in the kitchen about salad dressings let me completely corrupt you with my advanced age. --- AT: The malodour it exudes is so extremely stark that even addicts hold their nose fast before opening their mouth to relish a morsel of their beloved delicacy. CP: If there's anything that smells worse than spoilt fish mayonaise it's these rotten Swedish herrings. AT: None dares to open a can of surstroming indoors; it take much effort, time and detergents/perfumes to expunge the most enduring it leaves behind: no skunk worth its reputation can hold a candle to it.The operation is carried out in the remotest corner of the garden or, in a nearby park. CP: Let's not remain indoors with the odour of our amour but instead lets got to yonder garden or park. My apartment will have a lower resale value if the smell permeates the walls. - AT: For rendering this exquisite service to your homewifely otgies I hope, and devoutly pray, that you do not deal with me as your stern namesake dealt with poor Acteon for beholding her charms that sweet Venus would have ever so willingly unveiled for him... CP: And if you refuse my entreaties please don't send your dogs to smell my crotch. I'm a man, I'm from Mars. AT: Yours, ever so hopefully prayerfully, yet to be dubbed, Alfred CP: Whimper, whimper, whimper. Why am I stuck in cold Sweden when all the action is in Goa?! Cheers! Cecil === ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Goanet As A Catholic Forum
--- Frederick \FN\ Noronha wrote: This debate started out as a believers-versus- nonbelievers debate. Then, it shifted into being a Christians/Catholics-versus-nonbelievers. Now it is being given a Catholics-versus-Hindus twist. This is unfair. The only thing the debate is, is it's boring (as is any debate that goes on, and on, and on). Mario clarifies: For anyone to even suggest that Goanet is any kind of a religious forum is scurrilous and beneath contempt. As one of those who participated, I disagree totally with the way Fred has framed the subject of this debate. I reject the characterization that it was ever a Christians/Catholics versus nonbelievers debate. Anyone who made comments about Christians versus Hindus missed the point of the original debate altogether. The original debate was about the fallacy and impossibility of making universal, unconditional moral equivalencies between the well known moral codes of organized morally based groups, including certain atheist groups like Jains and Buddhists who apparently do not believe in a supreme being, and those of unorganized individual atheists, simply because we have no way of knowing what those are. Thus, Christians and Hindus remain on the same side of the original debate with all other morally based groups, as organized morally based groups. Furthermore, no one denigrated the moral codes of the unorganized individual atheists, and I am on record as saying that I know such atheists personally whose moral codes are excellent, and may even be superior to those of an organized religion. The debate deteriorated when some unorganized individual atheists on Goanet with long histories of religion-bashing demanded that we accept the notion that the unknown home-made moral codes of unorganized individual atheists are equivalent to the highly developed and well known moral codes that members of organized groups subscribe to. They then used bogus statistics to try and prove that religious moral codes were fake, one even tried to seriously postulate the comical notion that the Golden Rule may encourage rapists to rape, and another began promoting the comical notion that Hitler was a staunch Catholic simply because he apparently pretended to be, all this as part of a further attempt to besmirch religion. How any rational person can define an irrational homicidal megalomaniac like Hitler by what he says and pretends to do, and not on what he is known to have actually done, is beyond me. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Goa news for September 12, 2006
Goa News from Yahoo! News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** AAI may raise Rs 4,000 cr via bonds (Business Standard India) The Airports Authority of India will consider raising debt from the market through bonds to the tune of Rs 3,000-4,000 crore for the modernisation of 35 non-metro airports and also for greenfield airports in Goa, Pune, Kunnoor and Navi Mumbai. http://www.business-standard.com/common/storypage.php?autono=104401leftnm=3subLeft=0chkFlg= *** Healthy eating: Goa holds Vegetarian Congress (NDTV) Goa brings to mind images of sunlit beaches and beach shacks selling the most delicious seafood, not to mention mouth-watering Goan delicacies, which are almost entirely non-vegetarian. http://www.ndtv.com/andfinally/showandfinally.asp?slug=Goa holds Vegetarian Congressid=2500 *** UB venture harvesting rainwater to tackle Goa water crisis (The Hindu) PANAJI: United Breweries Ltd, Goa, a venture of Mr Vijay Mallya-led UB group, is harvesting rainwater in the state to tide over water crisis. Scientific rainwater harvesting has helped us to cope with the water demand. http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/businessline/blnus/27091406.htm *** UB venture harvesting rainwater to tackle Goa water crisis (New Kerala) Panaji, Sep 9: United Breweries Ltd Goa, a venture of Vijay Mallya-led UB Group, is harvesting rainwater in the state to tide over water crisis. Scientific rainwater harvesting has helped us to cope with the water demand. http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnewsid=19224 *** Goa Football League: Anthony stars in Dempo's win (New Kerala) Duler, Sept 9: Anthony Pereira's hat-trick guided Dempo Sports Club to an emphatic 4-1 victory over Vasco which helped them move to the top of the table in the Goa Football Association Professional League, played at Duler Ground, Mapusa, today. http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnewsid=19345 *** Karnataka to go ahead with works on Kalasa-Banduri Nala project (New Kerala) Bangalore,Sep 11: Ignoring opposition from Goa, Karnataka government today said it would go ahead with works on the Kalasa-Banduri Nala drinking water project before October two. http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnewsid=20013 *** Goa govt appeals people to conserve energy (New Kerala) Panaji, Sep 11: With two major power stations facing a breakdown, the Goa government has appealed to the people to conserve energy. http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnewsid=19749 *** Churchill convenes convention of Cong workers from S Goa (Navhind Times) Margao, Sept 9: Expressing displeasure over the functioning of his own partys government in the state, the South Goa MP, Mr Churchill Alemao, has called for a convention of Congress workers from South Goa on September 23, in Margao, to chalk out future course of action, in an apparent bid to consolidate his position. http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=091025 *** Centre decides to solve Goa-K'taka dispute under Act (Outlook India) Centre has decided to solve Goa-Karnataka Mhadei river water dispute under inter-state Water Disputes Act, Rajya Sabha MP, Shantaram Naik said here today. http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=413995 *** Goa beckons the sweet smell of faith (Yahoo! India News) Say it with flowers. At Mahalasa Temple in Goa's Mardol, the annual Jasmine Festival is being celebrated. http://in.news.yahoo.com/060911/211/67goo.html Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] 'Chaka-Chak' Sanjith!
Hi Floriano-bab, My expression you refer to below, mixes only two elements: brains and parrots. What you suggest would amount to an orgy between three -- hares, brains and parrots. Regards, Valmiki - Original Message - From: Floriano [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] 'Chaka-Chak' Sanjith! Dear Valmiki, Half-brained popinjay you say?? Don't you think 'Hare-brained popinjay' would be better suited?? :-)) floriano goasuraj ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Non-Resident Goans Registration
Dear Roland, I too am not a dog. Happen to be a rat, a 'shudd' Modgouncar. (That's why I don't trust guys like Fred and Gabe ... they've started a Mutual Admiration society for the elimination of rats!) Regards, Valmiki - Original Message - From: Alfred de Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Non-Resident Goans Registration Eduardo, not Curtorcar, a dog, su'nem; he is a Raikar, a tiger, vagh; One who loves his sleep rather incontinently much. I am Lotlocar, a he-goat, bokddo. Alfred From: Roland Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org To: goanet goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Non-Resident Goans Registration Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 22:44:25 -0400 Perhaps I shall send the NRI Commissioner my Pidu story or maybe the open letter to Valmiki Faleiro which may strike a chord with our Eduardo who shares the same family name as Valmiki. (Curtorkars, bah!) ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] AICHEA DISAK CHINTOP - Setembrachi 12vi, 2006!
Jitle vodik udar, title vodik sontosborit ami zatanv. (The more generous we are, the more joyous we become.) Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Contacto Goa
Dear Livia, It would be wrong to say that Mario Cabral e Sa's appreciation of the program Contacto Goa in Goa Today has been also greatly appreciated by one and all. I know of many Goans who think that the programme was a completely inaccurate representaion of the Goa of today and that Mario's appreciation for the program was unwarranted. For me, it seemed more like saudades captured on film Unfortunately I have not met my good friend Desmond Nazareth lately, so I couldn't pick his brain about the motives/idea behind making the series. Regards Sunith Velho Livia writes: There are always Devika Sequeiras, Lambert Mascarenhas, Mario Cabral e Sas (his appreciation of the program Contacto Goa in Goa Today has been also greatly appreciated by one and all) who have not been able to remove that stone in their shoes which hurts them now and again and they try to kick it out by all means. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Goanet and religion bashing
Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're evidently not just asking yourself. Peter, On the possibility that you missed it the first time, let me ask you this question again: Are you still a missionary? Looking forward to your reply. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Archives, patties, matka, cleavage - and the Salcete divide
I guess that two years ago I started the Apologetic Sausages and Incense discussion which like most of my other discussions I did not pursue tenaciously for lack of time or total loss of interest. But Cecil you have not squashed Gonadian - I have concrete prove that its around and now Roland might even start a Confraria! Good for you Roland! If you really want a Bardezkar-Shastikar war and who is the full bloodied Goan of the two then you should dig up the archives and find out the Opinion Poll results! I mean my teacher Hazel had come to work in a dress with a leaf pattern (beige background with green and brown leaves!) and in the craft class we were all embroidering table mats with the shapes of leaves - once again beige with brown. Mine like my discussions is still incomplete! Let's see you top that! Helga - Original Message - From: Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:43 AM Subject: [Goanet] Archives, patties, matka, cleavage - and the Salcete divide Before Selma's call for a North Goa-South Goa divide explodes into a full fledged war all interested warriors are asked to first go through the archives before re-inventing the wheel. The correct spelling and syntax of 'pattis' has already been covered. Check: Apologetic Sausages and Incense http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2004-September/018372.html ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Please identify these Plants/Fruits
Please identify these Plants/Fruits http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/241091342/ All found in Goa. Some Clues: -I think there is a biblical mention of one of the plant/fruit. - Banglleamchi ou Taliamchi Koddi (Mackerel or Sardine curry) hobodda lagta, chodd korun Ilhas/Bardez - Are you watching Satr Plus 'Kabi sans bhi bahu ti' ? - Most restaurants, it comes with icecream. - Another Clue within the pictures (..could prevent cancer) Local names will do. thanks for you usual support. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ ___ All new Yahoo! Mail The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use. - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Goanet and religion bashing
Unable to demagogue religion, now the only outlet / pastime for some is to demagogue other individuals, especially from the opposite camp. One person's demagoguery is another person's satire. This depends on which end the writers or the readers are. Demagoguery a.k.a. petoita murre, is a lot easier than writing a thoughtful, factual, useful article. I was reading the Pope's visit to his hometown Bavaria, Germany. I found the following from Fox News interesting in light of the discussions we had here on religion. Nonetheless, I think that we all join in the hope that the coming generations may remain true to the spiritual heritage, the Pope said. My wish is that all my countrymen in Bavaria and Germany together actively participate in the handing down of the foundational values of the Christian faith to the citizens of tomorrow. Many Catholics in Germany, as elsewhere in the West, complain about Benedict's opposition to ordination of women, gay marriage and married priests. More than 100,000 Germans officially leave the church every year, at least some of them to avoid paying a church tax levied by the government and used to finance the church. Although the number leaving was down to 101,000 in 2004 from 129,000 the year before, only about 14 percent of German Catholics attend Sunday Mass. GL adds: I guess the other 86% - former Catholics - may call themselves atheists / agnostics. That's more intellectual than saying, over-slept from too much prosit and wunder brau (beer) on Saturday night.:=)) Regards, GL ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Will any Goan please shed more light on this subject?
Joe, which year(s) specifically are you talking about? While we critique all that is bad, we need to appreciate efforts at reform. I think the Catholic Church in Goa has been trying -- though it has a long way more to go -- to turn its back on this... for at least the past 20-30 years. I saw the battle put up by young priests in places like Cuncolim battle casteism, at great personal harassment and risk. As the composition of the priesthood changes -- and it stops being a preserve of the elite as it has been for centuries -- we can expect a lot of surprises to come our way. At that time, maybe the Church would become more representative of its flock, and echo its aspirations in a better way. Such changes are needed in the interest of the Church, probably, just as Vatican II came in like a breath of fresh air... FN On 11/09/06, JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember my friend from Cansaulim telling me that in their church, on Good Friday, they use to take out procession of the life size image of Christ/Coffin carried out and this was done traditionally by the Gaumcars only. Many years ago, people from other cast demanded to know as to why only them and not us ? Fight broke out and since then there is no procession and the poor Jesus Christ Image stays there closed all these years. Partly opened for public veneration on very first Friday of the month I think. -- -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org 9822122436 +91-832-240-9490 http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
