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Re: [Goanet] Tarvotteanchim bondolam
Manuel, Here is one fella who campaigned in Taleigao and Aldona Constituencies (in that order in 2005 2007) with the same Kiswahili message. Kula hapa na Kura huko' However, sad to say that in Goa, no body understands Kiswahili. And those few that do, have long forgotten it. :-)) Cheers floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org - Original Message - From: manuel tavares duk...@bell.net To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 3:05 AM Subject: [Goanet] Tarvotteanchim bondolam If Soter is right, then we Goans are really Ignorant passive ' Shinkon Brutt' (pardon my Kokni) and do deserve the type of Government that we have. I was in Kenya for many years and even the illiterate among the Africans knew that their vote counted. They had a common saying in Kiswahili 'Kula hapa na Kura huko' Literal translation ' Eat whatever your given here but vote there' in other words, consume the Feni and Chicken that Churchill is offering but vote for change. A change that will usher in a new responsive and representative Government more receptive to the needs and aspirations of Goa and Goans. Wake up you Goans and smell the Feni. It surely stinks if it comes from one of the current Politicians.Let us vote in a new era in the history of this tiny place we call Goa which has produced from its Children from Nuclear Scientists, Doctors, Engineers, Professors, Teachers, Tailors, Mechanics, Musicians, Football players etc etc etc. Now can we not produce a Government which is truly Of The People By the People and for the People ? THIS IS MY CHALLENGE TO YOU AND I HOPE YOU TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. Manuel (Eddie) Tavares.
[Goanet] Panjim Promenade - 4
To Goanet - http://www.parrikar.com/blog/2010/05/31/panjim-promenade-4 Regards, r
[Goanet] Tourism Minister Mickky Pacheco mourns
Tourism Minister Mickky Pacheco mourns The sad demise of Nadia Torrado in an obituary ad http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/4658200601/sizes/l/ Nadia died 14 days after consuming the deadly Ratol (Rats Poison) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/4626336130/ May her soul rest in peace joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Tarvotteanchim bondolam
Soter: What you wrote below means differently than what you actually intended it to mean: No one denies that Tarvottis and gulfies did not improve their own living conditions and educate their children (you should have omitted 'not') Now on the subjects of Tarvots, they worked in different capacities, as marine engineers, technicians, deck hands, chefs, waiters and so on on cargo ships, oil tankers and importantly passanger liners. They may have had some adventures off shore (where thry were allowed to off borar to visit the port cities), but may had little or very little interaction with native Konkni speakers, so no wonder when they returned home on leave, they had their own stories, some times with little spice added to the story, and probably due to this the phrase 'tarvoteanchim bandalam' ..meaning entertaining, but not entirely true. But as many women working as domestic helpers in the bombay, middle east households, tharvoti men were the main bread winners and mostly took good care of their families, built houses, educated their children. (However, the Sasu liked her tarvoti zavoin - vhor, vhor mujrm lonchem!) MD Message: 10 Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 07:45:32 +0530 From: soter so...@bsnl.in To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Tarvotteanchim bondolam Message-ID: 000801cb0067$2be572c0$1901a...@user77948b9580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Very interesting to read some of the remarks over my reference to 'Tarvotteachim bondollam' used in my open questions to Churchill Alemao. I am definitely not the first one to use the phrase but people tell me that there is a konkani song with this theme. In my childhood the phrase was used very often. But what is of little surprise is that instead of debating upon the primary contents we Goans choose are experts at diverting the focus and clinging to the irrelevant. No one denies that Tarvottis and gulfies did not improve their own living conditions and educate their children. But besides improving their economic status and personal social status, what has been their meaningful contribution to the over all political, social and cultural development of this State? They brought in the money and hoarded it in the banks? Did they not start off the rat race with other less fortunate Goans trying to imitate them and resorting to beg, borrow or steal to also improve their economic status? Did this lifestyle not trigger off a mistaken notion of economic and social empowerment in Goa? Who is it that danced with the politicians to get benefits as sailors and NRIs from the politicians? Did all this not trigger off a feeling among Goans that migrating abroad gives benefits of special government status for the dollars they bring in, while those who stay on and serve their own State and country get nothing? These are the issues that need to be discussed. -Soter D'Souza
[Goanet] Is the nation in a coma?
Business Line, Business Daily from THE HINDU group of publications, dated Monday, May 31, 2010 brings up an interesting article on corruption in India. http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2010/05/31/stories/2010053150300900.htm Is the nation in a coma? Europeans believe that Indian leaders are too blinded by new wealth and deceit to comprehend that the day will come when the have-nots will hit the streets. Mohan Murti A few days ago I was in a panel discussion on mergers and acquisitions in Frankfurt, Germany, organised by Euroforum and The Handelsblatt, one of the most prestigious newspapers in German-speaking Europe. The other panellists were senior officials of two of the largest carmakers and two top insurance companies - all German multinationals operating in India. The panel discussion was moderated by a professor from the esteemed European Business School. The hall had an audience that exceeded a hundred well-known European CEOs. I was the only Indian. After the panel discussion, the floor was open for questions. That was when my moment of truth turned into an hour of shame, embarrassment - when the participants fired questions and made remarks on their experiences with the evil of corruption in India. The awkwardness and humiliation I went through reminded of The Moment of Truth, the popular Anglo-American game. The more questions I answered truthfully, the more the questions get tougher. Tougher here means more embarrassing. European disquiet Questions ranged from Is your nation in a coma?, the corruption in judiciary, the possible impeachment of a judge, the 2G scam and to the money parked illegally in tax havens. It is a fact that the problem of corruption in India has assumed enormous and embarrassing proportions in recent years, although it has been with us for decades. The questions and the debate that followed in the panel discussion was indicative of the European disquiet. At the end of the QA session, I surmised Europeans perceive India to be at one of those junctures where tripping over the precipice cannot be ruled out. Let me substantiate this further with what the European media has to say in recent days. In a popular prime-time television discussion in Germany, the panellist, a member of the German Parliament quoting a blog said: If all the scams of the last five years are added up, they are likely to rival and exceed the British colonial loot of India of about a trillion dollars. Banana Republic One German business daily which wrote an editorial on India said: India is becoming a Banana Republic instead of being an economic superpower. To get the cut motion designated out, assurances are made to political allays. Special treatment is promised at the expense of the people. So, Ms Mayawati who is Chief Minister of the most densely inhabited state, is calmed when an intelligence agency probe is scrapped. The multi-million dollars fodder scam by another former chief minister wielding enormous power is put in cold storage. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh chairs over this kind of unparalleled loot. An article in a French newspaper titled Playing the Game, Indian Style wrote: Investigations into the shadowy financial deals of the Indian cricket league have revealed a web of transactions across tax havens like Switzerland, the Virgin Islands, Mauritius and Cyprus. In the same article, the name of one Hassan Ali of Pune is mentioned as operating with his wife a one-billion-dollar illegal Swiss account with sanction of the Indian regime. A third story narrated in the damaging article is that of the former chief minister of Jharkhand, Madhu Koda, who was reported to have funds in various tax havens that were partly used to buy mines in Liberia. Unfortunately, the Indian public do not know the status of that enquiry, the article concluded. In the nastiest business scam in Indian records (Satyam) the government adroitly covered up the political aspects of the swindle - predominantly involving real estate, wrote an Austrian newspaper. If the Indian Prime Minister knows nothing about these scandals, he is ignorant of ground realities and does not deserve to be Prime Minister. If he does, is he a collaborator in crime? The Telegraph of the UK reported the 2G scam saying: Naturally, India's elephantine legal system will ensure culpability, is delayed. Blinded by wealth This seems true. In the European mind, caricature of a typical Indian encompasses qualities of falsification, telling lies, being fraudulent, dishonest, corrupt, arrogant, boastful, speaking loudly and bothering others in public places or, while travelling, swindling when the slightest of opportunity arises and spreading rumours about others. The list is truly incessant. My father, who is 81 years old, is utterly frustrated, shocked and disgruntled with whatever is happening and said in a recent discussion that our country's motto should truly be Asatyameva Jayete. Europeans believe that Indian leaders in politics
[Goanet] Where Is Our Dignity Of Labour ?
Where Is Our Dignity Of Labour ? Economics teaches us about the relativity of our wants, commerce teaches us about the balancing of facts and figures, whereas social science teaches about the dignity of labour. In Goa at the moment, our human resources are at a low, our rich fertile fields are laid waste, all the old labour force has somehow disappeared in to oblivion and we have been forced to hire migrant labour which at most times lacks skills but have to do with it, as there are no viable alternatives. I have witnessed that most of us Goan folks, feel shy to do their own work and for the least or the smallest of chores we seek hired help, my dad always told me, son, never feel shy or degraded, to do your own cores, infact one must hold his head high and do ones own work since then I have never shied away from doing my own work, it keeps me busy and healthy and I don't have to waste my time begging every Tom, Dick and Harry to do my chores, that I can do myself. Sometimes the weight of money goes to our head, that we don't even bend to pick up our things and ask others to pick them up for us, is this what life is all about ? No doubt we have to enjoy our lives with what we have, that does not mean we have make others do what we could do ourselves. There is such a hue and cry over the mass influx of migrant labour, there is no doubt that it is indeed bad for Goa but who is responsible for this influx ? It is the indignity of Goans along with the greed and self-centeredness of our politicians, that's responsible for this quandary, were we not self-sufficient in the supply of labour till the last decade ? In my younger days I remember our village people use to all go and work in each others fields in turns and avoid hiring labour ? Can we do that now ? No, we are educated who wants to work in the field, we have enough money, Indian rupees as well as foreign exchange coming into our accounts, so it's easier to buy rice than work in our fields, in villages people use to plant their own vegetables, today if there is a Belgaum band one has to buy vegetables at the price of fish which sometimes competes with gold. In Goa with the riches that we have attained, we have forgotten our roots and look for people to do all our manual work, our youngsters at the moment, have just one thing on their mind, finish twelfth standard and go on the ship or finish graduation or the specialized services and go overseas. Skilled labour is almost non existent and hence we have invited the influx of migrant labour and our government helping them to government jobs for financial benefits and vote bank politics has not helped us either. Our Government has to adhere to the requirements of our younger generation and create an environment that will tap-in their talents by providing a suitable infrastructure in HRD to stop the brain drain that's prevailing, youngsters should be in a way enticed to go on for further studies, by providing better jobs that will overwhelm their ambitions if not sustain them, only then will our youth believe in a future in Goa. Our Government has given all help possible to people who want to go overseas, for studies or for employment, but has our government taken any steps to improve the situation back home and create opportunities that would pull those overseas back to homeland ? The prevailing circumstances created by our corrupt politicians is infact driving away more and more of our Goans out of Goa, and the cynicism just keeps on increasing and spreading like the bush fires in Australia. A week back I came across an article which is an example for each one of us Goans, it gives us a ray of hope but we have to lay aside our pompous pride and place the attributes of dignity of labour to the fore and do something for ourselves and for Goa. This article is about a Goan, who is a qualified Mechanical Engineer, he started a small farm with just a few goats, but today he is the proud owner of a farm, which he has now diversified into rearing rabbits, ducks, turkeys, pigs, quails and exotic birds, as the exotic pigeons and fancy pets like fan tail pigeons, Jacobines, fancy fowls are increasingly being sought as pets, doing very well for himself at his farm at Chandor, at first people just laughed at him, calling him all sorts of names but today he is become the envy of all. The success of this farm, sends out a very strong message for every Goan, a conservative thought the process might be but it allows us to believe farming and education can co-exist, dignity intact. If we really believe in dignity of labour, success is there for the making. If only our government could educate our people especially in rural Goa, about all such possibilities and render help in starting such escapades, as the scope for such ventures in rural Goa is enormous and with guidance and expertise from the government, Goans would be much better off, instead of being asked to become watchmen and
[Goanet] Tarvotties and Gulfies
Soter D'souza (May 31) states: ''We have not washed firangi(meaning whites) or Arab toilets to develop our (i.e. his family's) economic conditions. Let us think a wee bit deep and we will arrive at a conclusion that we have been for centuries using such a derrogatory language against our adversaries more out of envy than anything else. Our whole Indic civilization has been revolving round and round human faeces.Purity was measured in terms of distance away from it. But can any human being say that he has nothing to do with it at all ? No matter how ''high'' he is from pollution point of view , he has to clean with his own fingers his anus at least once a day. And besides did he not spend his first nine months of his life in the womb of his mother near her large intestinses ? his first nine months of his life in the womb of
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[Goanet] Tarvotteanchim bondolam - In defence of Tarvotis
It is strange that some people are picking on Tarvotis for working on ships, flashing their wealth and calling them Tarvotteanchim bondolam. I may be wrong but I get the feeling that is is the result of jealousy. These people should understand that there are bad apples in every profession be it tarvotis, Gulfies, medical field, lawyers, office goers or people settled in Europe, USA or Canada. To give their families a better living Tarvotis have sacrificed their family lives and slogged on cargo ships/passenger ships to earn better wages and give their families a higher standand of living. If they spent their hard earned money on constructing beautiful houses it is their wish. Just because a few Tarvotis, Gulfies and some people settled abroad flash their money does not mean all of them waste their hard earned money. I condemn anyone flashing his wealth and feel that is only ignorance and foolishness that they do this. One must remember that often Tarvotis are jobless for months and this also applies to Gulfies whose jobs are often unsecure and work in inhuman conditions. Most realize that they have to save for the future. We should bear in mind that it is not easy to earn the money what with them often working 10 to 12 hours a day and Tarvotis most often have only the sky and sea for company. Sealife is not easy with so many dangerous situations that they encounter with rough weather, stormy seas and storms only for a living. Many years ago I lost a good friend of mine who was on a maiden voyage as Radio Officer on Chandragupta which sank in Atlantic ocean. I have many friends as well as family members who work on ships. If there is one ex. crooked Tarvoti, Churchill Alemao there are thousands decent Tarvotis. It would be better to attack Politicians who carry on day light robbery, amass wealth and are destroying Goa. They go scot free and flourishing. In fact sadly when elections come, it is we the people who reelect these corrrupt and crooked politicians to continue their loot. Best wishes Camilo Fernandes _ South Cinema This Decade http://entertainment.in.msn.com/southcinemathisdecade/
[Goanet] PULTODCHO, Tarvottea, aunties, f****g overseas Goans, Husko Konknnicho, Romi and devanagri
Of-late Goanet is heavily splashed with all such topics. These are entertainments. For some these help to achieve “I also can write” or “publicity” objectives. For politicians these help to achieve “Divert public attention” from their misdeeds. Goa is being raped by Land sharks, mining mafias and politicians. Goans are dying under minig trucks. Our fields are destroyed by Ghati builders. Churchill, to create vote bank like Digu motidongor, is bringing 2800 ghatis to Carmona where 500 goans now stay. You will neither have Konknni nor Romi in Goa some years from now. Every year 40,000 ghati construction laborers, mining truck drivers, Moti-dongor maids, security guards, mining laborers come to Goa and 5000 Goan engineers, doctors and educated migrate to Bangalore. Tarvottea, aunties, overseas Goans had to go abroad because our politicians did not create adequate opportunities in Goa. They are our own nij-goenkars. They have been sending dollars which helped Goa to sustain partially. They funded whatever they could our crucial “opinion poll” as well as “Konknni movement”. So let us not run them down. I can talk fluent konknni but I cant write in theoretical Romi. I may write pultodcho as even pailtadacho (as pronounced in Vengurla catholics)or peltadcho (as pronounced by Mangaloren). I love konknni, because it is the first language I started talking in. I did not learn it; it came from my inner core. But our konknni will disappear once non-konkanis in Goa are more than konkannis and that is not far. So let us be rational. Let us postpone entertainment for good days or have less of it and more of things that are trying to destroy Goa and Goans. Media is purchased by MINING, the politicians friends. Goanet is still our hope. So show concern on Goanet. Politicians will try to divert u on other issues because it helps them. Some politician agent will start such topics and we will get lost in them forgetting our main issues. Don’t fall prey to games of politicians. Seby
Re: [Goanet] Tarvotteanchim bondolam
No denying that The Goans who slogged in the Gulf, Africa and the tarvottis have indeed contributed a lot towards building nice homes in Goa and also helped thereby to the economic upliftmentment of the state. Speaking about panchayats officers, there was a time in the 70s and 80s when many an unscrupulous panchayat person fraudulently put someone else's name on the Form I XIV as tenant (for a monetary consideration of course) and therefore there are piles of tenancy cases pending in the courts of Goa. I can say this from my own personal experience. Bernice
Re: [Goanet] Tarvotteanchim bondolam
In another thread I had pointed out to soter the mistake that he made by refering to Goan Tarvottis as BondollistSoter replies to me in pvt. Now that he has seen that he has some support he has come out with this new thread Tarvotteanchim Bondollam and also included gulfies. I suggest he send his post to Herald also, and surely his will be a STAR letter, he may even have some tarvottis garland him. There are many Tarvottis who are working hard and are also part of this agitation against Churchill and the govt. Here itself we see how our Florian bab (ex tarvotti) is fighting, and there are many others who have done a lot for Goa. .now Soter pls tell us all these are Tarvotteanchim bondollam? Long before tourism was not an industry in Goa, there was no other income besides mining. There were a few jobs available in Goa, so people used to work in the fields. The only other income was from the tarvottis...the tarvottis spent all their earnings to look after their families, educate their children, build their houses, and also helping others in villages. Yes some of them who had no formal education did all the low jobs on ships only to see that their children would not have to work as they did. Todays generation of Tarvottis are Captains, Engineers, and Catering Managers. Even to secure the lowest positions one has to go thru several courses and have 5 star hotel experience. One should know that the Tarvottis work for 9 or 6 months and the rest 6 months they are at home, sometimes its more ...so who looks after them when they are not working? My uncle worked on the PO ship, and when he came down he used to tell us the stories..as a kid that time for me they were only stories...till i landed on the ship and saw the reality...the hard life working 12 hrs a day on water. The same with the gulfies working in the gulf, the hard life they have to go thru the heat. It is always easy to degrade others but when one is in that shoe they get to know how it is. Regarding the song he refers.. that was the famous comic song of Minguel Rod..TARVOTTI, NOT TARVOTTEANCHIM BONDOLLAM, the words of which are available on my blog and I have also uploaded the song on the net. This song is loved by all Tarvottis. Now I would also suggest a video, watch the first part which I have titled as Panchayat Chorpacho Training center http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntM5isrtNK8 Dev borem korum Edward Verdes - Original Message - From: soter Very interesting to read some of the remarks over my reference to 'Tarvotteachim bondollam' used in my open questions to Churchill Alemao. I am definitely not the first one to use the phrase but people tell me that there is a konkani song with this theme. In my childhood the phrase was used very often. But what is of little surprise is that instead of debating upon the primary contents we Goans choose are experts at diverting the focus and clinging to the irrelevant. No one denies that Tarvottis and gulfies did not improve their own living conditions and educate their children. But besides improving their economic status and personal social status, what has been their meaningful contribution to the over all political, social and cultural development of this State? They brought in the money and hoarded it in the banks? Did they not start off the rat race with other less fortunate Goans trying to imitate them and resorting to beg, borrow or steal to also improve their economic status? Did this lifestyle not trigger off a mistaken notion of economic and social empowerment in Goa? Who is it that danced with the politicians to get benefits as sailors and NRIs from the politicians? Did all this not trigger off a feeling among Goans that migrating abroad gives benefits of special government status for the dollars they bring in, while those who stay on and serve their own State and country get nothing? These are the issues that need to be discussed. -Soter D'Souza
Re: [Goanet] Dwane Almeida among top @ JIS
Regarding the CGPA, the Times of India (Goa edition) brings out a very startling fact about the system. A child getting less marks overall can get a higher CGPA than another who has scored higher marks in all. The CBSE will have to go back to the drawing board and check it up and put it right. Richard cabral J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations to Dwane for his wonderful achievement. Congratulations also to his parents Mr. and Mrs Gaspar Almeida of Kuwaut for their time-investment in their children and also on their 17th wedding anniversary. Thank you Gaspar for all you have done and continue to do for the Goan diaspora. jc Goanet News Service n...@goanet.org wrote: Jabriya Indian School (JIS), Kuwait have achieved 100 percent results in the Class 10 CBSE examination 2010-2011. The student's diligence and dedication have proved that the school has reached the pinnacle of success with cent percent results. The toppers of the school are Asheni Selika (French stream) with CGPA 9.8, followed by Jishbu Ramesh Kappadan and Musamath Mushiken with CGPA 9.6 each. Dwane John Almeida scored CGPA 9.4 coming in at third position. Congratulations Dwane Almeida!!
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 5, Issue 530
Dear Chief Minister Digambar Kamat, What part about living, and letting be do you not understand? On your watch, one is seeing, a grand plan to destroy the green belt of Kalapur bandh and the convert the green watershed with many habitats of mammals, reptiles, birds and thousands of wild trees teeming with wildlife for new mega projects. The area is between102 years old Bondval lake of Calapur communidade and the Model status matchbox buildings mega project at Nagali, Taleigao. (text as also images from a concerned Dr. Nandakumar Kamathttp://picasaweb.google.co.in/Nandkamat/DestroyingTheLastGreenBeltOfBandhCalapur#http://picasaweb.google.co.in/Nandkamat/DestroyingTheLastGreenBeltOfBandhCalapur.) My ancestry is also Kamat, but so what--right?). Will such senselessness not end. What do you learn on your trips abroad. To do this? Dr. Kamat also points out: Bambolim plateau is a microlithic (5000 years old) archaeological site. For thousands of years there existed an ancient trail, a foot track from Calapur bandh to Bambolim plateau. There were some rock cut steps too..all this is destroyed within a few days? Give that a thought? Seriously, please. Bring the best minds in and make things works. This is what other countries dream of. We tear it asunder! Digambara! Digambara! Seriously, when one is helpless in the face of the decency which one has willingly subject oneself to--one may only scream in anguish. So, seriously are you completely devoid of any morals, do you have no aesthetic side to yourself, as well as lacking in any integrity to the land, to its people. What exactly is a mega project? Of course, this is meant rhetorically. Who came up with this term. Are concepts regarding development of any sort not meant to dovetail with the people, their ways of living, and perhaps even eschathology. Are the whole bunch of you messed up in the head, or had someone screwed with your minds? What happened bro?. I am sure that you are feeling smarmy that Goans are overall a quiet bunch. You and the other blokes--easy to use words like word Naxalite. Why? 'Cause it does not bite? Is abuse the Way, the Truth and the Light? In all my years of having comprehended Santhan Dharma--yes, I have; Earlier, I could not imagine that a Goan would be moved towards such malevolence. Are you the new Kamsa, or would you prefer to choose between Jarasandha, Sishupala or Dantavakra? You would now why Kamsa is included here. Is there anything more to you? Is this all about reincarnation where you come back in another hundred years, to clean the cesspool you are creating? Digambara! Digambara! What possibly could your fears be if you have any at all? Venantius J Pinto, New York
[Goanet] Now BJP wants Mickky's ouster
http://www.targetgoa.com/newsd-Now-BJP-wants-Mickky-s-ouster-377 Now BJP wants Mickky's ouster 2010-06-01 The gloves are off, they have had enough. Adding their voice to the clamour of women's groups, the BJP have also called for the immediate sacking of the Tourism Minister from the Cabinet. As it is there are too many tainted ministers in the Cabinet and thanks to another young woman Lucky Farmhouse, doubts have been cast on the Goa Cabinet with Ms. Farmhouse's allegations of a Cabinet Minister's son being associated with narcotics dealers in Goa. They have taken umbrage at the propensity of the Minister to be caught in unsavoury situations. Just a while ago, he was caught in the middle of an ugly domestic spat where his wife accused him of being in a bigamous relationship with another woman. Now he is being linked with the attempted suicide and death of a 28-year-old woman. There are as yet unconfirmed reports that Nadia Torrato the deceased woman took the extreme step of attempting suicide by consuming rat poison along with anti-depressants, after she found that she was pregnant. The women's groups headed by Savera's Tara Kerkar are taking a tougher stance, holding the Minister responsible for the death of the young woman by shunting her from one hospital to another. Tara Kerkar even used the word Murder. Meanwhile the minister is reported to have told the media that Nadia was a close friend of the family and that his entire family was in mourning over her death. COMMENT: Meanwhile there is a call for a fresh autopsy, they will have to dig the body up; probably check if the dead woman was pregnant and get a DNA sample to check against the Minister. -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
Re: [Goanet] Tarvotteanchim bondolam - In defence of Tarvotis
Camilo, I happen to be ex-Jayanti shipping who had done my trainee-ship on Devaraya Jayanti, the sistership of Chandragupta Jayanti, which was lost in the Sea of Japan (not Atlantic Ocean) during her passage from West Coast USA to the gulf area. I too had picked up the SOS, but unfortunately we were 3 day's sailing away. Scores of ships and US Navy helicopters were searching for the survivors for days without results. All 28 or 30 perished without sign. All that was reported was flotsam. At that time I was sailing on a Greek super tanker doing the Saudi Arabia - Los Angeles run with crude oil.. Sadly, floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org PS. I was the main co-ordinator to relay information to the Jayanti's B'bay head office and the rescue vessels. - Original Message - From: Camillo Fernandes camillofernan...@hotmail.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Cc: elisabeth_...@yahoo.com; duk...@bell.net Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 12:31 PM Subject: [Goanet] Tarvotteanchim bondolam - In defence of Tarvotis Many years ago I lost a good friend of mine who was on a maiden voyage as Radio Officer on Chandragupta which sank in Atlantic ocean. I have many friends as well as family members who work on ships. If there is one ex. crooked Tarvoti, Churchill Alemao there are thousands decent Tarvotis. It would be better to attack Politicians who carry on day light robbery, amass wealth and are destroying Goa. They go scot free and flourishing. In fact sadly when elections come, it is we the people who reelect these corrrupt and crooked politicians to continue their loot. Best wishes Camilo Fernandes
Re: [Goanet] Konkani Romi vo devanagri?
Mogall Jerry Bab, Ojeap zaupachi goroz na, kiteak tuka sarko zabab meuchonam. Ami sozmole tum kitem sangonk sodta poi tem. Aiz amche konknni bhaxent zaitinch moratti uttram assat ani maka dista ani thodea vorsani konkani ani moratti modem ontor aschi na. Tunvem sokall dil'lem kantar maka devnagri lipint meulem. Hem kantar/bhajan sorgest Ulhas Buyao an sorgest M.Boyerachea 'Ekuch Rosto' hea tiatran gail'lem. Tench kantar Ulhas babache CD ' Original Treasure' ant assa, tachim utram anvem mojea blogar dil'lim assat. Anvem tem kantar aikon oxem Romin boroilam.. Edward Verdes DEVA MOJEA DEVA - Ulhas Buyao (M.Boyer...Ekuch Rosto tiatr ) Deva Mojea Deva, tum soglleamcho adhar re.x2 Tuka chinta amchi soglleamchi, tum soglleak assa re...x2 Deva Mojea Deva, Tum soglleamcho adhar rex2 Sobit sokall, suknneache avazx2 Xitoll varo fullam follamchem vaas..x2 Hem sogllem jem, sobit sundor..x2 Hi tujich maya re Deva Mojea Deva, Tum soglleamcho adhar re..x2 Konni Ram mhunnta, Konni Krishn mhunnta Konni Jesu ani konni Allah mhunnta2 Rong rupam tujim oslim zaitinch re...2 Tunvem soglleank samballa re...2 Deva Mojea Deva, tum soglleamcho adhar re..2 Tuje lagim Deva ami magum kitem...2 Ami sogllim Tujim hem sogllem tujem...2 Dinvchench zalear di dennem amkam, Tujea payam lagim ranvchem, Deva Mojea Deva, tum soglleamcho adhar re...2 Tuka chinta amchi soglleamchi, tum sogleak assa re, Deva Mojea Deva, tum soglleamcho adhar re...2 Tum soglleamcho adhar re...Tum soglleamcho adhar re. Jerry Fernandes Mogal goemkarano / Borges Anv ojap zatam ki anvem ek sompem kam dillem Borges babak, tem taka somzonk nam munn. Somzon, somzonaslolea porim kelam shem maka dista, kiteak taka ani tea von sompe baxen somzaunk moje koddem goddo nam zalem. Ek daktuli With due apologies to Mr. Vijayanand V. Gaitonde. Vishvnand (A)In Roman Script Devaa, majyaa devaa, Tuu saglyaacho aadhaar re, Tukaa chintaa aamchii sagalyaanchii, Tuu saglyaat aasaa re….. Devaa, majyaa devaa, Tuu saglyaacho aadhaar re, Sobit hii sakaal, sukanya che aawaaj, Sheetal vaaro, phulaan paana che suvaas, Hen sagalen je sobit sunder, Hee tujeech maayaa re…… Devaa, majyaa devaa, Tuu saglyaancho aadhaar re………. Koni raam mhantaat, konii krashn mhantaat, Konii jeeju ani konii Allah mhantaat, Naavan roopan tujii jaytii aaslii tarii, Tuven saglyaank sabhaallaa re… Devaa, majyaa devaa, Tuu saglyaancho aadhaar re………. Tujyaa laagii devaa, aamii maangu kitden, Aamii sagalii tujee, jag sagalen tujen, Divchench jalyaar dee dene aamkaan, Tuje payaan laagii ravchen…. Devaa, majyaa devaa, Tuu saglyaancho aadhaar re……. ( ब) देवनागरी लिपि प्रार्थना ( कोकणी ) देवा, मज्या देवा, तू सगळ्याचो आधार रे, तुका चिंता आमची सगळ्याची तू सगळ्यात आसा रे….. देवा, मज्या देवा, तू सगळ्याचो आधार रे……..I सोबित ही सकाळ, सुकण्या चे आवाज, शीतळ वारो, फुलांपाना चे सुवास, हें सगळे जे सोबित सुंदर, ही तुजीच माया रे….…… देवा, मज्या देवा, तू सगळ्याचो आधार रे……..I कोणी राम म्हणतात, कोणी कृष्ण म्हणतात, कोणी जीजू अणि कोणी अल्लाह म्हणतात, नावां रूपां तुजी जायति आसली तरी, तुवें सगळ्याक सांभाळ्ळा रे… देवा, मज्या देवा, तू सगळ्याचो आधार रे……..I तुज्या लागी देवा, आमी मांगू कित्दें आमी सगली तुजी, जग सगलें तुजें, दिवचेंच जाल्यार दी देणे आमकां, तुजे पायां लागी रावचें…… देवा, मज्या देवा, तू सगळ्याचो आधार रे……..I ” विश्व नंद ”
Re: [Goanet] PULTODCHO, Tarvottea, aunties, f****g overseas Goans, Husko Konknnicho, Romi and devanagri
I am with Seby 365 degrees, One hundred per cent. Let us cry even better than babies do on goanet. This will send all these bad politicians, mining barons, real estate czars, the drug pedlers, the prostitution kings and queens what have you to run like lemmings right over the tallest cliffs and into the waiting Arabian Sea. Good riddance to bad rubbish. And Hark Ye ! Let us not be diverted by the ruses of politicians to divert us. We must apply ourselves to goanet at all cost. Cheers floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org - Original Message - From: seby cardozo sebycardozo12...@gmail.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 12:22 PM Subject: [Goanet] PULTODCHO, Tarvottea, aunties, fg overseas Goans,Husko Konknnicho, Romi and devanagri Of-late Goanet is heavily splashed with all such topics. These are entertainments. For some these help to achieve “I also can write” or “publicity” objectives. For politicians these help to achieve “Divert public attention” from their misdeeds. Goanet is still our hope. So show concern on Goanet. Politicians will try to divert u on other issues because it helps them. Seby
[Goanet] Some NRGs NRG Organisations: Are they hypocrites hiding behind colourful facades
Personally speaking, I find Freddy Agnelo Fernandes and Arwin Misquita and lately one Manuel Tavares very irritating with their endless dictates on Goa and Goans. May be, beyond words, they have done many things truly meaningful for the sudarop of Goa and Goans. I would love if they would chose to write something on that count. Some organisations across the seas hold felicitations and programmes/celebrations that are little more than cheap gimmicks for publicity. May be I am wrong but if there is anything that ignorant me needs to know let them let me know. Let them show that they are not some self-seeking hypocrites hiding behind colourful facades. Without malice Tony Martin Copy/Content Writing http://www.facebook.com/tonymartingoa Galgibaga, Canacona
Re: [Goanet] Sampod'dlo ?
Re: Sampod'dlo ? Many of you must have got this unsolicited mail in your inbox giving or claiming to be some one's personal details.. The same has been forwarded to me by 4 people/recipients who really care.. Some people including some website owners etc think JoeGoaUk is their rival and such people are out there to finish JoeGoaUk because they know once JoeGoaUk is caught that would be the end of JoeGoaUk (i said it). If you really care, do me one a favour If you get one or already got one, pl. reply/ ask the sender.. ‘Did I ask you the info?’ And the sender will get the message loud and clear. I am really fed up with all this dirty games that go behind my back And who are players? Goans themselves. Is it a sin to be JoeGoaUk? It is against law to be JoeGoaUk? Then what it is? Jealousy? LIVE and LET OTHERS LIVE joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] Foreign aunties
Soter, U have failed Goans and even 'yourself' with this post. How could you be so vile? You should be ashamed of yourself for writing thus. What a lot of crap! Dr Jose has replied to your nonsense, appropriately, and I do support him and Selma completely on this one. R U one of those Feudal Gaonkari Landlords who has 'missed the Bus' and is now 'envious' of those working hard to make themselves self sufficient? It seems typical of you. SHAME ON YOU, Soter! Nascy Caldeira --- On Tue, 1/6/10, soter so...@bsnl.in wrote: : [Goanet] Foreign aunties Comment: Selma can keep her one-eyed economics lessons to herself. It just reveals the level of ignorance. We have not washed firangi and arab toilets to develop our economic condition. We have stayed put in our land and are proud to have toiled and made a decent living and that too ethically. Our family has also served as Sarpanchas and panchas and we can walk with our head high in our village even to this day, a recognition I doubt Selma will get in her village. We are not exhausted with our work which Selma may never ever dream of experiencing in her life time. What work is more difficult and strenuous than agriculture? Great to know that our white British and U.S. aunties are available to roadside romeos to sponsor their drink. This itself speaks of the level of the foreign culture and values which our Selma bai is trying to preach to us in Goa. Tarvottis and gulfies have stocked money in our banks to lend it to migrant businessmen. By the way lending by banks in Goa is less than 30%. Amcho abru-mann ami rakhla bai. Videshi jivitak bhullon ogddaunk na. -Soter
[Goanet] Open Questions to Churchill Alemao
That certainly was not the intention! As we said in our contribution, we have been in Goa for the two years only. Rest assured, we will certainly learn soon enough the difference!! Thank you for telling us. Betsy and Richard. You might have irked the other 'True Goans' whose homes are palatial and also got their children educated. The only difference is that they chose to remain behind to serve their 'masters' and got hugely rewarded in return.
[Goanet] PULTODCHO, Tarvottea, aunties, f****g overseas Goans, Husko Konknnicho, Romi and devanagri
Dear Floriano and Camilo, Chandragupta Jayanti was lost at Sea. For me, it is not important whether it was lost in the Sea of Japan or Atlantic. What is regretful is that Churchill was not on board that ship. Rather, if all 18 congress chors would have been there, Goa would have been automatically saved. By the way, I am thankful that Florian is 365 degrees, One hundred per cent with me. I also appreciate his physical and philosophical efforts five-ten years ago. But nowadays he is shooting paper missiles more than actual act of running 40 goons from the tallest cliffs and into the Arabian Sea. Good riddance to bad rubbish is possible by action and pen-work (key-in-click-work now) is only a motivational force. One day, Florian power will certainly drown Digus, if he does not get disheartened by failures. I was taken aback by the helplessness he showed to Manuel – I campaigned in Taleigao and Aldona with the same Kiswahili message Kula hapa na Kura hako'. However, no body understood Kiswahili. And those few that did, had long forgotten it. This was Florians response to Manuels Kenya experience where Kenyan illiterates were more rational than shinkun brutt Goekars when it came to voting. They followed Kiswahili saying - Eat all you get here but vote there – Meaning eat Churchills Feni and Chicken but vote for change. Florianji, Be positive. Keep going. I am with u. No Cheers for now; only Jitters! Seby PS: My earnest request again: Of-late Goanet is heavily splashed with all such topics. These are entertainments. For some these help to achieve I ALSO CAN WRITE or PUBLICITY objectives. For politicians these help to achieve DIVERT PUBLIC ATTENTION from their misdeeds. Goa is being raped by Land sharks, mining mafias and politicians. Goans are dying under minig trucks. Our fields are destroyed by Ghati builders. Churchill, to create vote bank like Digu motidongor, is bringing 2800 ghatis to Carmona where 500 goans now stay. You will neither have Konknni nor Romi in Goa some years from now. Every year 40,000 ghati construction laborers, mining truck drivers, Moti-dongor maids, security guards, mining laborers come to Goa and 5000 Goan engineers, doctors and educated migrate to Bangalore. Tarvottea, aunties, overseas Goans had to go abroad because our politicians did not create adequate opportunities in Goa. They are our own nij-goenkars. They have been sending dollars which helped Goa to sustain partially. They funded whatever they could our crucial “opinion poll” as well as “Konknni movement”. So let us not run them down. I can talk fluent konknni but I cant write in theoretical Romi. I may write pultodcho as even pailtadacho (as pronounced in Vengurla catholics)or peltadcho (as pronounced by Mangaloren). I love konknni, because it is the first language I started talking in. I did not learn it; it came from my inner core. But our konknni will disappear once non-konkanis in Goa are more than konkannis and that is not far. So let us be rational. Let us postpone entertainment for good days or have less of it and more of things that are trying to destroy Goa and Goans. Media is purchased by MINING, the politicians friends. Goanet is still our hope. So show concern on Goanet. Politicians will try to divert u on other issues because it helps them. Some politician agent will start such topics and we will get lost in them forgetting our main issues. Don’t fall prey to games of politicians. Seby
[Goanet] GOACAN calls on students to be cautious while pursuing further studies
- Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members, relatives, neighbours and friends. Help other CONSUMERS to be better informed. - --- GOACAN calls on students to be cautious while pursuing further studies GOACAN calls upon all SSC, HSSC TY College students who are planning to pursue further studies through various educational institutions in Goa and other States of the country to be cautious when applying for the various courses and making payments for the same. In view of the various complaints received, GOACAN alerts all students and their families to take the maximum precautions before taking a final decision on their further studies. It maybe noted that every year students get cheated in various ways such as being provided incomplete admission forms, paying for courses not duly Recognised or Accredited, Courses not having facilities as promised at the time of admission and additional fees being collected without authorisation. Many advertisements on the print audio visual media and on websites offering various short term educational courses need to be carefully examined for false assurances made to enhance the credibility of the course and to entice the student applicant. GOACAN particularly appeals to students to cross check course fee discounts, special offers and other promotional schemes before making part or full payments and to verify whether the receipts issued are by the authorised persons of the Institution. GOACAN requests students and parents to check the validity or status of Degrees or Institutions, Accreditation status of University or Colleges by logging on to the following websites: Ministry of Human Resource Development (www.education.nic.in) University Grants Commission (www.ugc.ac.in) All India Council of Technical Education (www.aicte.ernet.in) Association of Indian Universities (www.aiuweb.org) National Assessment and Accreditation Council (NAAC) ( www.naacindia.org ) Medical Council of India (www.mciindia.org) Distance Education Council (www.dec.ac.in) Students are advised to file their complaints with the Department of Education, Department of Higher Education, Directorate of Technical Education, Goa Board of Secondary and Higher Secondary Education and Goa University as the case maybe and send copies of the same to the GOACAN Complaints Cell, Post Box 187 Margao 403 601 or email goa...@gmail.com -- GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK -- promoting civic and consumer rights in Goa -- GOACAN Post Box 187 Margao, Goa 403 601 GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mail: goa...@gmail.com Visit: http://goacan.blogspot.com --
[Goanet] World Cup sweepstake entries....
Good luck and enjoy watching the games and rooting for your respective teams. JP Morgan has said England will win playing Spain in the Finals - we shall see. Bookies favourites are Brazil once again, anything is possible and be ready for surprises and even an outsider to take it this time. ALGERIA - Elora Lobo; Ria Almeida ARGENTINA - Elora Lobo; Ria Almeida AUSTRALIA - Elora Lobo; Ria Almeida BRAZIL - Elora Lobo; Olga Philip D'Cunha CAMEROON - Helga do Rosario Gomes; Joe Almeida CHILE - Filomena Giese; Helga do rosario Gomes COTE D'IVOIRE - Acaria Almeida; Egas De Souza DENMARK - Thelma/Tony Barbosa; Walter D'Souza ENGLAND - Elora Lobo; Robert Dias FRANCE - Sheila Almeida; Surendra Naik GERMANY - Elora Lobo; Milan Kojnok GHANA - Joe Almeida; Kurt Almeida GREECE - Filomena Giese; Helga do rosario Gomes HONDURAS - Filomena Giese; Harriet Ferens ITALY - Acaria Almeida; Blasco/Karin Almeida JAPAN - Shilla Almeida; Soriya Meas KOREA DPR - Elora Lobo; Robert Britto KOREA REPUBLIC - Kurt Almeida; Liam Pinto MEXICO - Roland Travas; Savio D'Silva NETHERLANDS - Kurt Almeida; Maju/Glen Furtado NEW ZEALAND - Joe Almeida; Helga do Rosario Gomes NIGERIA - Filomena Giese; Gabe Menezes PARAGUAY - Acaria Almeida; Aurelius Figueredo PORTUGAL - Seby/Thomas Pereira; Shila Almeida SERBIA - Elora Lobo; Ria Almeida SLOVAKIA - Helga do Rosario Gomes; Jacob D'Souza SLOVENIA - Maria (Jane) Colaco; Marlon Menezes SOUTH AFRICA - Joe Almeida; Helga do Rosario Gomes SPAIN - Loreen/Oscar d'Silva; Kurt Almeida SWITZERLAND - Acaria Almeida; Egas DeSouza URUGUAY - Aidan Pinto; Acaria Almeida USA - Stephen/Yaedemin Fernandes; Shilla Almeida -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
Re: [Goanet] Foreign aunties and Goan paos
Jose Colaco wrote: Yes, it is the fault of the Gulfies and the Tarvottis because they sacrificed and saved funds in Indian banks . They should (instead) have invested those funds in the Panchayats! -- Doc, Apparantely tarvottis and Gulfies should not have been depositing their money in the bank. Obviously they should have been giving it out as prasad to the panchayats. I've compiled a list of people that Soter has consistently warned us against: Oscar Rebello - exposed Dean D'Cruz - exposed GBA Elite - corrupt Foreigners - no moral values Bhaile Tarvottis - foreign toilet cleaners Gulfies - Arab toilet cleaners Muslim and other allahmaos The list grows longer everyday. I'm surprised there is a single person in Goa, who meets with Soter's specifications. Oh wait. Could it be, that Xettkar sitting on the ximm eating his congee with torrachem miskut, last spotted in 1945, the only person Soter actually approves off. Best, selma
[Goanet] Foreign aunties
Soter has again displayed his ignorance of the true facts of Economics. Calling Selma's lesson One Eyed. His perception of Economics is therefore Cock Eyed and that is what it is. If Soter is well off and his family has produced Sarpahchas and Panchas, then we are proud of them for that but that does not give him the right to demean those Tarvotis and Gulfies who as he says have scrubbed Arab Toilets and maybe that is true, but they earned an honest living and have contributed to the economy of Goa what is unethical about that? By stacking their money at low interests Tarvotis and Gulfies have afforded People like Sotar chances of avail themselves of Loans to start some worthwhile business. He says that Agriculture is exhausting work, this is true but if some Goan like Soter could await himself of a Loan to purchase machinery, this would make things easier and perhaps more profitable. That is precisely the reason that Susigade Goans like him are complaining that Hard working Ghantis are taking advantage of the money banked by Tarvotis and Gulfies. Why do they not take the risk themselves instead of complaining and show what they are capable of doing. As stated in my other posts, Goans have only themselves to blame for the Government they have. Susigade people like Soter have let Crooked and Dishonest Politicians walk all over them. Soter's criticism to those who have gone overseas and earned their money by hard work is very unbecoming as these people did not make these decisions lightly and only did so because they had exhausted all means of ever getting gainful employment in Goa and therefore had to move elsewhere. Perhaps Soter would not even have his current standard of living had these people not ventured abroad and sent the money that they earned overseas to keep the home fires burning. Manuel ( Eddie) Tavares
[Goanet] Final assault on the last surviving green belt and wildlife habitat-Kalapur bandh-Nagali hill-the grand megaproject plan exposed
Dear Chief Minister Digambar Kamat, What part about living and letting be, do you not understand? On your watch, one is seeing, a grand plan to destroy the green belt of Kalapur bandh and the convert the green watershed with many habitats of mammals, reptiles, birds and thousands of wild trees teeming with wildlife for new mega projects. The area is between102 years old Bondval lake of Calapur communidade and the Model status matchbox buildings mega project at Nagali, Taleigao. (text as also images from a concerned Dr. Nandakumar Kamat http://picasaweb.google.co.in/Nandkamat/DestroyingTheLastGreenBeltOfBandhCalapur#http://picasaweb.google.co.in/Nandkamat/DestroyingTheLastGreenBeltOfBandhCalapurhttp://picasaweb.google.co.in/Nandkamat/DestroyingTheLastGreenBeltOfBandhCalapur#%3Chttp://picasaweb.google.co.in/Nandkamat/DestroyingTheLastGreenBeltOfBandhCalapur .) My ancestry is also Kamat, but so what--right?). Will such senselessness not end. What do you learn on your trips abroad. To do this? Dr. Kamat also points out: Bambolim plateau is a microlithic (5000 years old) archaeological site. For thousands of years there existed an ancient trail, a foot track from Calapur bandh to Bambolim plateau. There were some rock cut steps too..all this is destroyed within a few days? Give that a thought? Seriously, please. Bring the best minds in and make things works. This is what other countries dream of. We tear it asunder! Digambara! Digambara! Seriously, when one is helpless in the face of the decency which one has willingly subject oneself to--one may only scream in anguish. So, seriously are you completely devoid of any morals, do you have no aesthetic side to yourself, as well as lacking in any integrity to the land, to its people. What exactly is a mega project? Of course, this is meant rhetorically. Who came up with this term. Are concepts regarding development of any sort not meant to dovetail with the people, their ways of living, and perhaps even eschathology. Are the whole bunch of you messed up in the head, or has someone screwed with your minds? What happened bro?. I am sure that you are feeling smarmy that Goans are overall a quiet bunch. You and the other blokes--easy to use words like word Naxalite. Why? 'Cause it does not bite? Is abuse the Way, the Truth and the Light? In all my years of having comprehended Santhan Dharma--yes, I have; I could not imagine that a Goan would be moved towards such malevolence. Are you the new Kamsa, or would you prefer to choose between Jarasandha, Sishupala or Dantavakra? You would know why Kamsa is included here. Is there anything more to you? Is this all about reincarnation where you come back in another hundred years, to clean the cesspool you are creating? Digambara! Digambara! What possibly could your fears be if you have any at all? Venantius J Pinto, New York
[Goanet] Are Goans back home chors and white auntie hunters for some NRIs ?
Great to know that Tarvottis risked their lives on the seas while Gulfies slogged it out with job insecurity. All those who remain in Goa are nothing but chors and waiting for white aunties to sponsor a drink or con some NRI sponsors in the name of social work or fleece them in the Panchayats. -What about thousands of Goan fishermen who continue to risk their lives on the seas that we may have fish on our plates? What about the labour back in Goa that climb several floors on scaffoldings to construct the offices, malls and other luxuries that we enjoy? What about the coconut pluckers and others who climb heights to give us toddy for our feast sannahs and vinegar to cook our meat, tasty mangoes and the rest of delicious foods? What about those health workers who work with communicable disease patients in Goan hospitals and other health care homes? What about the farmer who works in the pouring rain, biting cold and the scorching heat to grow our food? What about the newspaper boy and milk man who brave the weather to deliver our needs at the door step in the morning? What about the air crew that fly the airplanes to ship us? What about the bus drivers and train drivers who day after day and night after night drive up and down the same route to transport us? What about our electricity lines men who climb the poles and other heavy tension lines to ensure our power supply? What about those who work on our roads and other infrastructure? What about the thousands who work in our Goan industrial estates on meagre salaries? What about the coolie at the airports, rail and bus stations, who carry our baggage? What about hundreds of activists battling it out against corruption and illegalities without public contributions? What about the sincere and honest public servants and elected representatives in our government offices, panchayats and municipalities? What about so many little people that keep our Goa going and make our life comfortable? WHO IN GOA DOES NOT RISK THEIR LIFE ? WHOSE TOMORROW IS SECURE IN GOA? -Soter
[Goanet] Goa Sudharop: World Cup sweepstake entries....
Here is the random raffle drawing. Thanks to Gabe for organizing this and to all those who bought tickets. Proceeds to benefit Goan Chitra museum through Goa Sudharop. Good luck. George --- On Tue, 6/1/10, Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com wrote: Good luck and enjoy watching the games and rooting for your respective teams. JP Morgan has said England will win playing Spain in the Finals - we shall see. Bookies favourites are Brazil once again, anything is possible and be ready for surprises and even an outsider to take it this time. ALGERIA - Elora Lobo; Ria Almeida ARGENTINA - Elora Lobo; Ria Almeida AUSTRALIA - Elora Lobo; Ria Almeida BRAZIL - Elora Lobo; Olga Philip D'Cunha CAMEROON -Helga do Rosario Gomes; Joe Almeida CHILE - Filomena Giese; Helga do rosario Gomes COTE D'IVOIRE - Acaria Almeida; Egas De Souza DENMARK - Thelma/Tony Barbosa; Walter D'Souza ENGLAND - Elora Lobo; Robert Dias FRANCE - Shilla Almeida; Surendra Naik GERMANY - Elora Lobo; Milan Kojnok GHANA - Joe Almeida; Kurt Almeida GREECE - Filomena Giese; Helga do Rosario Gomes HONDURAS -Filomena Giese; Harriet Ferens ITALY - Acaria Almeida; Blasco/Karin Almeida JAPAN - Shilla Almeida; Soriya Meas KOREA DPR - Elora Lobo; Robert Britto KOREA REPUBLIC - Kurt Almeida; Liam Pinto MEXICO - Roland Travas; Savio D'Silva NETHERLANDS - Kurt Almeida; Maju/Glen Furtado NEW ZEALAND - Joe Almeida; Helga do Rosario Gomes NIGERIA - Filomena Giese; Gabe Menezes PARAGUAY -Acaria Almeida; Aurelius Figueredo PORTUGAL -Seby/Thomas Pereira; Shila Almeida SERBIA - Elora Lobo; Ria Almeida SLOVAKIA -Helga do Rosario Gomes; Jacob D'Souza SLOVENIA -Maria (Jane) Colaco; Marlon Menezes SOUTH AFRICA -Joe Almeida; Helga do Rosario Gomes SPAIN - Loreen/Oscar d'Silva; Kurt Almeida SWITZERLAND - Acaria Almeida; Egas DeSouza URUGUAY - Aidan Pinto; Acaria Almeida USA - Stephen/Yaedemin Fernandes; Shilla Almeida -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] Goa news for June 2, 2010
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Uninor in Bengal - Calcutta Telegraph how/2010/jun/01/slide-show-1-tech-now-a-mobile-that-offers-24-7-badalta-discount-plan.htmusg=AFQjCNEuvGn7KnhdZxXwKXBegykx27oo_QNow, a mobile that offers 24x7 'badalta' discount plan http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.telegraphindia.com/1100602/jsp/business/story_12513632.jspusg=AFQjCNEgKZe1gbjf5bSrKS5_l_-bD8J61w *** Monsoon reaches Kerala, expected in Mumbai on June 10 - Daily News Analysis ily News AnalysisPune: The southwest monsoon hit Kerala yesterday and is expected to hit parts of Karnataka and Goa within the next 48 hours. The monsoon has covered the ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_monsoon-reaches-kerala-expected-in-mumbai-on-june-10_1390396usg=AFQjCNFVS3GCaGg4Av-pbGOYIT2hZE54QQ *** Action against Goa Minister demanded after woman's death - The Hindu ased women's organisation demanding a probe and action ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://beta.thehindu.com/news/article443939.eceusg=AFQjCNGrMtVL1lbyoR7mZ0cxFG3tZI4clQ *** IVRCL Group Bags Rs.3100 Cr. NHAI Project - RTT News 7 section between Maharashtra-Goa border to Panaji-Goa-Karnataka border from km ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.rttnews.com/Content/IndianNews.aspx?Id=1320766SM=1usg=AFQjCNH2STGpyoO7nmI9PwQGv1AkR2xxlw *** I-League U-19: Sporting Clube De Goa Crowned U-19 I-League Champions - Goal.com 9 I League championship for I-League teams, with a hard fought 4-2 penalty shoot-out win ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/1064/i-league/2010/05/31/1951896/i-league-u-19-sporting-clube-de-goa-crowned-u-19-i-leagueusg=AFQjCNGHk_xvzWC56btMvY1OQt9LgHdLXQ *** Environment clearance to Goa mining project scrapped - Sify n-environment-nod-to-mining-project-in-South-Goausg=AFQjCNHd84Q0DRkgYKFQ4wcZRPsbF-v-GwStay on environment nod to mining project in South Goa http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://sify.com/finance/environment-clearance-to-goa-mining-project-scrapped-news-default-kf5uOcbjiai.htmlusg=AFQjCNGLdXV191pnROfYJP6bSMh81IbFig *** Superstar Krishna in Goa - IndiaGlitz diaGlitzSuperstar Krishna was in Goa along with his family to celebrate his birthday. With Vijaya Nirmala and Naresh alongside him, Krishna celebrated his birthday ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/telugu/article/57457.htmlusg=AFQjCNENejYtsa7PIerTrd99AXfFqj53ZQ *** Central Excise officer caught taking bribe in Goa - Hindustan Times xcise-officer-held-for-taking-bribe-in-goa-news-national-kgbu4dgfdhh.htmlusg=AFQjCNFpIGEjJaosLTwJRxLISYvfnoAcsQCentral excise officer held for taking bribe in Goa http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Central-Excise-officer-caught-taking-bribe-in-Goa/Article1-551861.aspxusg=AFQjCNHCeA4VWoeaveQSSWXlJomD0__sdw *** Monsoon may hit Goa in next 48 hours: Met - Times of India rrested-for-impersonation/articleshow/5993853.cmsusg=AFQjCNECea_Ivuu67Q_xKYkV3ym5BvfEdQMan arrested for impersonation http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/City/Goa/Monsoon-may-hit-Goa-in-next-48-hours-Met/articleshow/5996798.cmsusg=AFQjCNF0NbvuTWg_bU_lzAnNlXKwifmzAw *** Selling pressure may continue in Sesa Goa: Seshadri Bharathan - Economic Times 8M http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/stocks/views/recommendations/Selling-pressure-may-continue-in-Sesa-Goa-Seshadri-Bharathan/articleshow/5998669.cmsusg=AFQjCNHwyzl6aMt4ydyaF7HYiivSHJqfKA Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Cops stop funeral of woman ‘linked to minister’
Second autopsy ordered as family alleges political harassment Cops stop funeral of woman ‘linked to minister’ Devika Sequeira Panaji, June 1, DHNS *In a dramatic turn of events, the Goa police on Tuesday stopped the funeral of a woman in South Goa, after the Margao sub-divisional magistrate (SDM) ordered a second autopsy in the case.* [image: NCP minister Micky Pacheco (top) tries to brazen it out with this condolence ad (right) which appeared in the local papers in Goa on Tuesday.]The death of Nadia Torrado (27) has taken centre stage here with women’s groups and political parties calling for a complete investigation into her links with Goa’s controversial Tourism Minister Micky Pacheco. Commenting on the case, Goa Chief Minister Digambar Kamat said he was waiting for the probe to come to a conclusion, before he decides on a course of action. Nadia died on Saturday, two weeks after she made a drastic bid to end her life taking a dose of poison with anti-depressants. Her funeral which had been scheduled for 10 am on Tuesday was stopped when the police turned up at her family home in Loutolim to take possession of the body. Condemning the police action, the woman’s family said they were lodging a complaint with the Human Rights Commission. “This is nothing but a case of ministers trying to settle scores,” their lawyer Radharao Gracias said. Pacheco, whose reputation has been smeared by a string of personal and political controversies, is separated from his wife Sara who has filed several cases against him. -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] MICKY SHOULD BE SACKED
Goa’s Tourism Minister Mr. Micky Pacheco should be immediately sacked pending a thorough impartial inquiry into the death of Loutolim based 28 year old Ms Nadia Torrado. The cause that led Nadia to suicide needs to be probed along with her relationship with Micky Pacheco. The police need to investigate all the mobile phone and SMS communication between Micky and Nadia. The circumstances that led Nadia Torrado to suicide and her death has left many questions unanswered and Micky Pacheco cannot get away by merely claiming that he was a family friend of Nadia. The bid to cover up the issue by claiming that Nadia had accidentally used Ratol instead of toothpaste on her tooth brush is ridiculous. The medical records show that Nadia had consumed the entire tube of Ratol poison. Goa’s Governor Dr. S.S. Sidhu needs to intervene on this serious issue as it involves the unacceptable behavior of a cabinet Minister who has a past record of repeatedly abusing, kicking and slapping Government officials. The Bombay High Court at Goa should also take suo motu cognizance and direct the government of Goa to submit a detailed report into the death of Nadia Torrado. Aires Rodrigues T1 - B30, Ribandar Retreat Ribandar - Goa - 403006 Mobile: 9822684372
[Goanet] Four-member team conducts 2nd autopsy
Four-member team conducts 2nd autopsy HERALD REPORTER MARGAO, JUNE 1 In a day of hectic developments in the Loutolim woman’s death case, a second autopsy was conducted on the body of deceased Nadia Torrado after the Sub-divisional Magistrate, Margao issued an order just before the funeral was to take place at 10 am this morning. In another development, SDM Agnelo Fernandes has also commenced investigations into the death of the 27-year old woman after it has come to light that Nadia’s death has come within seven years of her marriage. Jeep loads of armed policemen descended at the residence of the deceased woman at around 9 am and took possession of Nadia’s mortal remains after the SDM issued an order for a second post mortem. The police took possession of the body an hour before the funeral was to take place at the schedule time at 10 am. The body was later transported to the Hospicio mortuary where the SDM conducted an inquest panchanama. The SDM also ordered video filming and photography while conducting the inquest panchanama. The SDM directed the Hospicio Medical Superintendent, Dr Ruando De Sa to constitute a panel of doctors to perform the second autopsy, which was later performed by a four-member team comprising of Dr Avinash Poojary, Dr Siano Fernandes, Dr Meenaxi and Dr Savita. SDM Fernandes told Herald this morning that besides Tara Kerkar, Bailancho Ekvott Convenor Auda Viegas had moved an application for abetment to commit suicide on the allegation that the deceased woman had bruises all over the body, which she believed was due to assault before the deceased woman was administered the poison. “I recorded the statement of the husband and the brother. Since Nadia’s death has occurred within seven years of her marriage, I have ordered the autopsy and conducted inquest Panchanama,” SDM Fernandes added. Meanwhile, the authorities handed over Nadia’s body to her relatives after performing the second post mortem examination this evening. The family has taken possession of the body and will announce the funeral date after going through the post mortem reports conducted at Chennai and at Margao. According to sources, the second post mortem report has ruled out any foul play in the death of the deceased woman. http://oheraldo.in/news/Main%20Page%20News/Four-member-team-conducts-2nd-autopsy/37443.html
[Goanet] Sorry-Not a megaproject-road construction and tree slaughter was done by Goa University for completing boundary wall
Not a megaproject-road construction and tree slaughter was done by Goa University for completing boundary wall This is a new and interesting development. After posting the previous alert and appeal about the road construction and tree slaughter, I visited the registrar, Goa University, Dr. Sangodkar, in the afternoon (June 1, 2010) and requested him to conduct an on the site inspection. We inspected the university’s map, checked the boundaries and then with University engineer Mr. Sawakar we proceeded to the site of road construction. Both the registrar and the engineer were surprised to discover the activity and damage. “this must have been going on for many days’ , opined the registrar. He noted the imprints in mud made by heavy earth moving machinery. I requested him to file a FIR. The engineer pointed to a section of completed boundary wall (after shifting to the present campus it has taken university 16 years to undertake a compound wall construction along the large boundary as there were no funds for the same ) and implied that the road construction and tree slaughter might have taken in the private property without university’ s knowledge. But perhaps he would not know that he would be changing his opinion in a few hours. We concluded the inspection with the registrar assuring to seek an explanation from the security guards in the boys’ hostels who could have noticed the movement of machinery. It so happened that, after returning from the inspection, considering the tree slaughter and its’ impact on wildlife I contacted the CCF, Goa forest dept. Dr. Shashikumar and asked him to send RFO, Panaji to investigate the matter of tree felling. “How is it possible that access for road construction and tree felling was given from university property without anyone’s knowledge?”. He expressed his doubts. But I insisted on an inquiry by RFO who is also the notified tree officer. Dr. Shashikumar assured to send him. In the meantime Times of India –Goa Journalist Mr. Paul Fernandes contacted me. I asked him to visit the said site in the evening. Both RFO Mr. Korgaonkar and Mr. Paul appeared at the same time, around 4 PM. Mr. Korgaonkar came with his full team. Then we proceeded to inspect the road and tree felling. A little further we noticed another wall on a slope and a large cleared area. The forest dept. team noticed logs of a freshly cut large jackfruit tree. A woman was collecting the branches. She said that a landlord has allowed her to collect the wood. A few trees could be seen fallen to the ground with the branches cleanly severed. ( I would post these images later) A Kokum tree was in a state of collapse. Mr. Korgaonkar expressed his doubts about involvement of a private party. Looking at the laterite bricks he said that this could be university’s work. He sent his forest guard to inspect. The anti climax came sooner than expected. As I waited for the forest dept. team to complete the survey of the damage, apparently the registrar had also set in motion his own investigation. After some time, Mr. Korgaonkar approached me and said that he would like to meet the registrar. He shocked me with these words-“ this is the work done by your university”. I phoned the registrar’s office and requested for an appointment with RFO. Mr. Korgaonkar then spoke to the registrar. Within a few minutes the full team of engineering section of Goa university led by the registrar Dr. Sangodakar descended at the site with maps. They went around and checked some boundary marks. Then the delegation assembled in front of boys’s hostel and then the registrar admitted that the conclusion drawn in the afternoon inspection was wrong. The road was made by contractor engaged by the university to build the boundary wall to transport machinery and materials to permit construction of a section of the wall on the steep slope. “ but this damage is not acceptable” I said-“besides permission of forest department was not obtained”. Besides, I said_-“why a six metre wide road is required to transport machines?, What happened to the trees and timber?.” Mr. Korgaonkar reiterated my statement. He insisted that despite being a public body the university need to obtain permission under tree preservation act. The registrar assured that compensatory plantation would be done during the monsoon. I said that it would be difficult in the rocky part now. “ We need to admit that the work was not properly supervised and the impacts were not assessed seriously”. The engineer said that traditional trail would be maintained. RFO said that there would be mud flow in the village due to loose soil. I told RFO to follow the procedure as per the rules. He expressed the inability to do house to house search and confiscate the wood and timber. Turning to the university engineer, I said-“ this is a slap on my face. I have already informed the world that the damage is done by some private interest for a megaproject. I am really ashamed that our university has done
[Goanet] Goa Sudharop: World Cup raffle - closed
The World Cup Raffle organized by Gabe (London) is now closed. All 64 tickets have been sold and no more additional tickets are available. Proceeds to benefit Goan Chitra museum through Goa Sudharop. Thank you for your support. Goa Sudharop www.goasudharop.org
[Goanet] Police summon Mickky over Nadia’s dea th
Police summon Mickky over Nadia’s death HERALD REPORTER MARGAO, JUNE 1 For the first time since Nadia Torrado died at Chennai on Saturday last, the police have summoned Tourism Minister Mickky Pacheco for investigations in connection with the death of the Loutolim woman. In another development, police have registered a case of abetment to suicide under section 306 of the India Penal code against unknown persons. It is learnt that the police have also served a letter on the Tourism Minister last night not to leave the state and make himself available for investigations in the case. Investigating Officer, PI Raju Raut Desai on Tuesday dispatched a communiqué to Tourism Minister through the Colva police this evening, asking him to report to the Maina Curtorim police station without fail at 4 pm today for investigations into the death of the woman. However, the summons letter reached the Betalbatim residence of the Tourism Minister only at around 4.20 pm. PSI Sudesh Velip, who was drafted by the Colva police to serve the summons on Pacheco, reached Pacheco’s residence only at around 4.20 pm when the Investigating officer asked the Minister to report at the police station at 4 pm. When PSI Sudesh Velip reached Pacheco’s residence, he is believed to have met Seby, who informed the police that the minister was not at home. When contacted, Lyndon Monteiro, the Officer on Special Duty to the Tourism Minister said the police did send a call letter to the minister, but the police reached Pacheco’s residence late with the letter. “How could the minister respond to the letter when it was served on him only at 4.20 pm when he was asked to report at the police station at 4 pm,” Monteiro asked and made it very clear that the tourism minister has no problem in reporting to the police station since he has nothing to do with the woman’s death. Monteiro said the tourism minister has told the police officer concerned that he would report to the police station on Wednesday morning or any time asked by the police. Meanwhile, the SP, South has ordered the investigating officer to register a case of abetment to commit suicide against unknown persons. Sources in the police department said Section 306 of the IPC would be added to the case already registered by the police in connection with the death of the Loutolim woman. “Right now, the police will register the offence of abetting Nadia’s suicide against unknown persons and proceed with the investigations,” a police officer said, adding that the police investigations into the case are moving in the right directions. Meanwhile, Chief Minster Digambar Kamat on Tuesday said that he would not take any stand on the demand made in several quarters to drop Tourism Minister Mickky Pacheco from the ministry. During an informal chat with newsmen, Kamat said, “There is no question of me taking any stand on the issue. I cannot directly interfere in the matter as investigating agencies are presently investigating into the incident.” Replying to a question, the chief minister said he would certainly “examine” if any complaint is handed to him in connection with the case. http://oheraldo.in/news/Main%20Page%20News/Police-summon-Mickky-over-Nadia-rsquo-s-death/37442.html
[Goanet] Here's food for thought - could take off in Goa/India
Cow manure powers computers down on the data farm Iain Dey One of the world’s biggest technology companies is working on plans to power its data centres using energy generated from cow manure. Researchers at Hewlett-Packard (HP) want to build computer warehouses on dairy farms where they would be hooked up to power plants fuelled by waste. Just one cow produces enough waste every day to power the televisions in three typical households. A large dairy farm, with about 10,000 cows, produces enough to run one of the firm’s typical data centres and meet the energy needs of the farmer, the HP scientists believe. If it works, the scheme could potentially solve two of the world’s looming environmental problems at a stroke. Cow manure has long been seen as a threat because of the methane gas it produces. Methane is about 20 times more damaging to the environment than carbon dioxide. Global meat and dairy consumption is expected to soar in the next 10 years as countries such as China and India move towards a more western diet. The amount of data stored online, meanwhile, is increasing and, to hold it, technology firms are building vast computer complexes that consume large quantities of power and generate heat. This heat can be piped away and used as an energy source. Tom Christian, principal research scientist at HP, said: “The idea of using waste to generate energy has been around for centuries, with manure being used every day in remote villages to generate heat for cooking. The new idea that we are presenting in this research is to create a symbiotic relationship between farms and the IT ecosystem that can benefit the farm, the data centre and the environment.” The HP plans were unveiled at a conference last week in Arizona. Initially, the research is focused on America, which has the biggest demand in the world for data centres as well as large-scale dairy farms. HP believes a farmer who signed up to the scheme could earn as much as $2m (£1.4m) a year by selling waste-derived power to a data centre. The world’s big technology firms are all working on plans to cut the environmental impact of their data centres. Almost every item of data sent on the internet is stored in a server farm somewhere in the world. Demand for these data centres seems almost infinite. An increasing number of data centres are being powered by solar panels and wind farms. The Icelandic government wants its tech firms to power their data centres using geothermal power. Atlantis Power, a small Scottish firm, is building a data centre on Stroma, Orkney, that will be powered by tidal turbines generating electricity from the turbulent waters of the Pentland Firth. http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article7133868.ece -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] Tarvotteanchim bondolam
NEVER BORROW NEVER LEND?? Depositing money in the bank is to earn interest. Not doing bank a favour. I think Cajetan should have a look at the bank profit and loss account to know why exactly banks lend on a higher rate of interest and pay lesser percentage in interest to depositors (overheads, my friend). MD. Message: 2 Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 13:49:08 +0100 From: Cajetan Alvares cajul...@gmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Tarvotteanchim bondolam Message-ID: aanlktintkbnm3llujyndlww1ucj_ehxghnq5kfdyy...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Selma said: The money that the tarvottis and Gulfies brought and hoarded in their banks is absolutely essential to growth --- Selma, I think Soter is correct and he is NOT jealous. Goans investing in Bank deposit is not the answer Who uses that money is more important And, Goans are not clever in INVESTING And, Goans who have opened shops in Panjim are not interested in business/customers either. Their policy is - I've got a shop, if you want to buy - buy - if not get out Pig headedness while the outsiders will bend backwards to get your money out of your pocket. Bhaile have come to Goa to survive, they cannot afford to sit on their hands like the Goans do, and go to their ancestral home. People borrowing pay more to the bank than depositors for interest. NEVER BORROW NEVER LEND - is ingrained in Goan peoples mind
[Goanet] KKL – Kes Keso Lok
KKL – Kes Keso Lok Or Kaise, Kaise Log It this case, I would change it KKG – Kes Keso Goemkar Just because I am JoeGoaUk, some people think I have no heart or feelings and write anything... Here is an example and I still can’t get over it. Warning: Some strong language used in the end. Copy and pasted as it is. I received one email on 15th May 2010. Reproduced below with subsequent exchange of mails Quote: On Sat, 15/5/10, steve wrote: REMINDER ( it aapear that he first wrote to me on 29th April but on wrong email ID – see proof but I only got his with reminder on 15th May) To: joe...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Thu, 29 April, 2010 10:23:04 AM Subject: VCD's Hi Joe, Pls. send me Dol Mojea Bai, Sorry Pai, Thevoi VCD if u have on my e-mail id. Thanks Steve = = = = = My reply: 1 thanks what u want me to send on your Id? His Reply: 1 VCD of Dol Mojea Bai, Sorry Pai, Mevonk Na (by menino de benaulim) Thevoi = = = My Reply 2 search flickr.com for joegoauk and the VCD title and you will get it his reply 2 u still did not understand man. i dont want photos of konkani vcd, i want to watch the films what i mentioned below. so if u have the films pls, forward me on my id. hope u understood now = = = = = My reply. 3 You have to buy and watch it only Rs.150 his reply 3. if we have to buy and watch it, then why the hell you download it on net. = = = = My reply: 4 prove it - show me the download His reply 4 – 2 worded on youtube = = = My reply 5 I said prove it. give me a link from youtube where you saw a VCD is uploaded His reply 5 i have many proofs idiot and other ppl tooo. but i dont wanna argue with u now fuck off from here = = = = My reply 6 I am sending your entire mails/replies to the group so that they know diff. types of Goans His last reply 6. Quote: Re: Fw: Fw: VCD's Tuesday, 18 May, 2010 2:57 PM steve Colaco colaco.st...@yahoo.co.in To: JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk YOU SHAMELESS CREATURE WHAT A SHAME ON YOU FUCKER HAHAHAHAHAHA UR A SON OF A BITCH COPYRIGHTING OTHER WORKS ( with his last reply abv, he also forwarded my own post back to me on ‘Shameless JoeGoaUk?’ which he must have found in google search, I wrote to him this and I did not get any reply after that) End. THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON NOWADAYS INCLUDING THE ONES BEHIND MY BACK, LOOKS LIKE THE END OF JoeGoaUk is very near. joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
