Re: [Goanet] Fwd: Goa in the gutter ( addendum) In defense ofAdminNoronha
On 6 July 2010 21:37, floriano floriano.l...@gmail.com wrote: Jc, Crapola is not even one millionth of the 'CRAP' which is going to be splashing on Dr. Anil-bab's head. Just wait and watch Maybe he will have to use a lot of saffron to get it out of the way. I am waiting for his 'clinical' answer. Cheers floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org for 25 mins of expanded presentation of the Party on the HP My dear Florianobab, I personally (albeit virtually) saw Anil give you an envelope containing poixe. Anil told me that he had given you Rs 20, 000 which Micky Mouse had given me to hand over to Anil. (Gabe had given Micky Mouse 500 pounds to give to me to FWD to Anil). All this ghuspott was done upon the advice of the accountants who advised the anti-Gaspar chaps from Raitura. Something to do with Tax 'invasion'. I have come to believe. Ha Ha Ha what crapola (or as Floriano would call it ..Crap) jc RESPONSE: On a more serious matter - I have bent over backwards to help our Goan Association (U.K.) I have given more than £500 to the Association. More than that I have given guarantees and an unsecured loan of £25,000 and even more than that I have put in many hours of dedicated work to keep the Club House open. After My Board resigned the Club was hardly ever kept open and it died a natural death. It went up in flames and one remarked that it was an 'Act of God' or words to that effect. It is for the record that an honoured and distiguished Solicitor, Clarence Mascarenhas, senior member and past President of the G.O.A. (U.K.) Ltd had to resign his membership under duress (he then died shortly after that) - he had complained to me, as well as other members, of shabby treatment meeted out to him; followed by my resignation (also a senior founder member and past President) and then by my good friend Ben Da Costa, also a senior Member and stalwart supporter. This was all done under the watch of one Flavio Gracias, brother of the Auxiliary Bishop of Bombay. To make matters more amiable, having resigned, I received a letter informing me that I was declared 'personna non grata' at their functions.now you know the inside workings of the G.O.A. ( U.K.) Ltd! Now you ask what's up, man? DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] Fw: The Church at the Service of the Nation (3)
THE CHURCH AT THE SERVICE OF THE NATION (3) 3.3: In his inaugural manifesto, Jesus announced his mission of evangelizing the poor (cf.Lk 4:16-21). The “year of grace” was prefigured by the Jubilee Year of Old Testament legislation, when debts were to be remitted, ancestral property returned, and slaves set free (Lev 25:8-17.25-28). His mission was not political, but “religious” as a constitutive element of the totality of our human-existential experiences. The “vertical” dimension is the basic element from which all other “horizontal” elements flow: social, economic, political, artistic (GS 42). The Church can, rather should contribute to make the “family of man and its history more human” (GS 40). 3.4: The Third Synod of Bishops unhesitatingly declares: Action on behalf of justice and participation in the transformation of the world fully appear to us as a constitutive dimension of the preaching of the Gospel, or, in other words, of the Church's mission for the redemption of the human race and its liberation from every oppressive situation. 3.5: Paul VI and John Paul II have stressed the secular dimension of the Church's mission. Paul VI wrote: But evangelization would not be complete if it did not take account of the unceasing interplay of the Gospel and of man's concrete life, both personal and social. This is why evangelization involves an explicit message, adapted to the different situations constantly being realized, about the rights and duties of every human being, about family life without which personal growth and development is hardly possible, about life in society, about international life, peace, justice and development--a message especially energetic today about liberation (EN, no.29). Soon after he became Pope, John Paul II took up the same theme in an address to the General Assembly of Latin American bishops. Throughout his pontificate John Paul II has taught that the Church is concerned with the temporal life of Man and it has a servant role in the world (see RM, 1990, n.58, also his Sollicitudo Rei Socialis, 1987, nn.47, 48): The Church and her missionaries also promote development through schools, hospitals, printing presses, universities and experimental farms. But a people's development does not derive primarily from money, material assistance or technological means, but from the formation of consciences and the gradual maturing of ways of thinking and patterns of behaviour. Man is the principal agent of development, not money or technology. The Church forms consciences by revealing to peoples the God whom they seek and do not yet know, the grandeur of man created in God's image and loved by him, the equality of all men and women as God's sons and daughters, the mastery of man over nature created by God and placed at man's service, and the obligation to work for the development of the whole person and of all mankind. 3.6: The mission of the Church is to reconcile humanity with God (cf.2 Cor 5:18-20; Eph 2:13-15). Being the agent of peace and reconciliation, it has to heal the wounds, lead people to unity and peace. At the international level there is threat of nuclear war. Man has to live in harmony and communion with nature because of interconnectedness of the world. It has to meet the deepest longings of the human heart, which is never fully satisfied by what this world has to offer (see GS 41). It has to mediate a genuine experience of communion with God (see LG 1). It is primarily through the life of love that the Church reveals God's presence in our day (see GS 21). 3.7: People of India do appreciate the contribution of the Church in the field of education, health services and charitable works. But throughout we have to be a credible sign of God's presence in the world and mediate to our people a genuine experience of God. The transforming power of God at work in us is revealed in the quality of our life and love. Otherwise, we shall not succeed in being true witnesses of God in our country today. At times we have projected the image of the Church as the defender of the Establishment, of the status quo… We have shown the face of bigotry, fanaticism and intolerance, not of a living God, who liberates, lets his sun shine on the good and the evil, gives life and happiness. 3.8: We have to appreciate the religious and cultural traditions of India. The Church needs institutions and material resources to fulfill her mission, but the interest of the institutions can militate against the values of the Gospel the Church is called to live by. Vatican II gives us a green signal: “Since God the Father is the origin and purpose of all men, we are all called to be brothers. Therefore, if we have been summoned to the same destiny, which is both human and divine, we can and we should work together
[Goanet] India the hype
Sr. Preidente since you responded I decided to recount a story of a elite indian educator who was servicing in Macau. It was this bright evening on an island where various communities were invited for a dinner party. Among the invitees was a another indian, a chap (north indian) from the aviation industry who decided not to sit on the same table as the educator (south indian). Various dishes were served, the educator using his fingers to get to the food, everything peaceful, when suddenly a loud roar was heard from the educator. The loudest denkor was ever heard in Macau. It is believed that even the stars from the milky way dropped into oblivion, the chicken on the plates of the partying guests flew away and even the bingo mc while conducting the game disclaming that the denkor was the right answer:))) It was then known as to why the north indian aviation would not sit on the table alongside the south denkoring educator. Ich bin ein Goan! Amche Goem amka Zai. BC What I said was that it was people like Nascy who bring shame to India. Like Jose, I did not know that Bernado considered himself an Indian. I thought that he was either a Portuguese or a Chinese. So now I must include Bernado among those Indians who give India a bad name. Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet] Fw: What's your REAL age?
Subject: What's your REAL age? Hello Goanetters... Wouldn't it be great to know exactly how old (or young) you really are? Just because you are 40 doesn't mean you feel 40 -- you could feel, and look, much better...more like a 30 year old...OR, you could suffer from chronic pain and feel more like a 60 year old. Do you know what your REAL age is? Dr, Mehment Oz has put together a very simple test that will show you how fast your aging. More importantly, it will tell you exactly which of your habits are affecting your real age and what you can do to feel, act and look younger. Simply take the RealAge Test to find out what's making you older or younger, and get a step-by-step, personalized plan that will help you add years to your life and pep to your step, so you will have more energy to live the life yo! u want. http://www.realage.com/ralong/entry4.aspx?cbr=ULTMET04 This 100-question test will tell you if you're biologically younger, older, or the same as your calendar age. Your personalized plan will give you a detailed list of health and lifestyle habits that are affecting your RealAge. http://www.realage.com/ralong/entry4.aspx?cbr=ULTMET04 UltraWellness LLC | 1121C Military Cutoff Road, #359 | Wilmington | NC | 28405 If you no longer wish to receive these email messages, please remove yourself from this list.
[Goanet] C K Prahalad and Dr R A Mashelkar on Innovation in India
While browsing I came across an interesting article. The theme of that article is Indian pioneers have figured out how to do more with fewer resources - for more people. I thought members in this forum would find this article interesting. To read more on this, click the link provided: http://www.ideasrs.com/docs/Innovators_Holy_Grail_CKP+RAM.pdf Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
[Goanet] Fwd: Re: Discovery in Bambolim
suo moto' expression of interest and declaration, To avoid any future 'conflict of interest', and to fall in line with the global colour of the activism season, in consultation of my good old friend Durgadasbab of GAKUVED , I am considering to send a research proposal through Canadian funded Indian NGO 'Vikas adhyayan Kendra' to Canadian Council of Churches (CCC). I don't think poor Australian prehistory researchers like Dr. Bedenarick would help financially. Once I get a Canadian agenda with Canadian sponsorship, Durgadasbab would get Canadian quality research. If there are any objections for licking Canadian shoes for Canadian currency, please be liberal in sending them right now before the proposal is finalized. 'mining agent' and traitor scientist Nandkumar -- Forwarded message -- From: durgadas gaonkar gaonka...@rediffmail.com Date: Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:04 PM Subject: Re: Re: Discovery in Bambolim To: nandka...@gmail.com Cc: gaonka...@rediffmail.com Hello! Dr. Kamat, On behalf of the GAKUVED communities I express our sincere thanks for bringing in light the glorious past of the Gawda community : The historical findings at Bambolim Plateau. I also wish to bring to your kind notice one more fact that - At the plateau of Curca Bambolim near the military camp there is a open space near the temple. The said place was used by our ancestral to conduct the General Body Meeting called VARG of all the members of the Gawda community from all over Goa. Some research about that place also to be conducted. I am very much thankful for your valuable research work by which more light can be put on the existence of the Gawda Commuities. Durgadas Gaonkar On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 01:56:17 +0530 wrote Someone needs to inform Al Gore and Rajendra Pachauri that the sea levels in Goa are moving in the wrong direction from their predictions. --- On *Sat, 7/3/10, Santosh Helekar *wrote: From: Santosh Helekar Subject: Discovery in Bambolim To: Dr.Nandkumar Kamat .Date: Saturday, July 3, 2010, 6:40 PM Nandakumar, A couple of questions. First, are you preparing to send these findings for publication in a peer-reviewed archeological journal? That would be the appropriate thing to do to validate your findings. Second, I had read that the land of Goa was under the sea until about 1 B.C.E. How does your claim of humans having entered Goa 80,000 years ago conform with this fact? Cheers, Santosh --- On Sat, 7/3/10, Dr.Nandkumar Kamat nandka...@gmail.comhttp://www.rediffmail.com/cgi-bin/red.cgi?red=http%3A%2F%2Fus%2Emc805%2Email%2Eyahoo%2Ecom%2Fmc%2Fcompose%3Fto%3Dnandkamat%40gmail%2EcomisImage=0BlockImage=0 wrote: On June 25 th I made an important discovery on Bambolim plateau which pushes back the history of human colonization of Tiswadi island to 1 BCE (humans entered Goa 60-8 years BCE) It was the discovery of five groups of linear stone cupules...vestiges of prehistoric rock art, which I have dated to mesolithic-early neolithic period. these site was known to have a microlithic industry. I have already sent the pictures and details to IFRAO chairman Australian rock art researcher Dr. Robert Brednarick and awaiting his comments The first set of images of these rare finds are uploaded at http://picasaweb.google.com/Nandkamat/PrehistoryOfBambolimPlateauLinearCupulesAndMicroliths#http://www.rediffmail.com/cgi-bin/red.cgi?red=http%3A%2F%2Fpicasaweb%2Egoogle%2Ecom%2FNandkamat%2FPrehistoryOfBambolimPlateauLinearCupulesAndMicroliths%23%40mail%2FisImage=0BlockImage=0 for public viewing and appreciation along with my collection of microliths ( 5000 years old) from ancient trails on the plateau.. Feature stories on the discovery would be published in English By Sunday Panorama of The Navhind Times of July 4 th, 2010 and by Goa edition of Lokamat Marathi on the same day. The creators of these cultural heritage were undoubtedly the austric settlers whom we know today as the coastal settlers of ST Gavada community occupying a continuous belt of southern Tiswadi from Aivao-Taleigao to Palem Siridao. They feel threatened due to urbanization and march of concrete forests. The tribal heritage is almost gone and a few of us are trying to survey and document what remains of the ancestors of tribal settlers.. A more detailed monograph on this subject is due... I thank the mother earth for having revealed this heritage to me like a vision. I am still attempting to read the message behind it... For sake of conserving the location I can't reveal it until security measures are put in place. -- Dr. Nandkumar Kamat, GOA On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@gmail.comhttp://www.rediffmail.com/cgi-bin/red.cgi?red=http%3A%2F%2Fus%2Emc805%2Email%2Eyahoo%2Ecom%2Fmc%2Fcompose%3Fto%3Dchimbelcho%40gmail%2EcomisImage=0BlockImage=0 wrote: One of the misfortunes of India is Indians like Nascy who have never had any attachment to their
[Goanet] Goa centric tourism policy
For many communities and countries throughout the world tourism is the most valuable industry. East Asia, Caribbean and the Pacific Rim are experiencing unprecedented growth in tourism industry. As per the World Tourism Organisation – Tourism 2020 Vision forecast international arrivals are expected to reach nearly 1.6 billion by year 2020. International arrivals forecast for India expected to reach nearly 10 to 10.5 million by year 2020. With economic policy perspective, tourism for local communities is a vital economic development tool producing income, creating jobs, spawning new businesses, spurring economic development, promoting economic diversification, developing new products, and contributing to economic integration. The successive Goa Governments has failed to formulate a clear Goa centric tourisms policy. Though Goa managed to create itself brand ‘GOA’ thanks to Hippies in 1970 and Bollywood in 1990’s the State Governments could not envisaged right tourism policy. With constant change in Government due to political instability (Seventh Assembly 1990 –94 had world record 7 Chief Ministers) just as all other development plan, tourism too suffered badly. People at the helm got busy changing goal post east-west-north-south rather than have fixed goal to achieve success in tourism. The Twelve Players in Goa Government (unlike eleven in football team) instead of focusing how to achieve tourism success goal they like to change goal post position as per individual whims and fancies. There has to be holistic approach in formulating Goa centric tourisms policy. It must have clear vision and mission with objectives and goals set for next 25 years. Tourism is much more dynamic then what it was 25 years ago and so it is very important to explore the various types of tourism concept and select Goa centric concept. The various types of tourism concepts can be classified By Product: Mass Tourism Package tour - Alternative Tourism Ecotourism. By purpose: Pleasure, Culture, heritage, Nature-based (eco-) tourism, and rural tourism. By nature of the activity: (Active) Adventure tourism, Ecotourism, (Passive) Sightseeing Beach holiday Cruise. Location preference: Coastal, Rural, City, Mountains. By age/socio-economic group. By domestic /international group. The infrastructure is a key to any development but this cannot be at cost of environmental degradation. Does Goa have the required infrastructure to achieve its tourism successes? If there is a need, than what is financial cost involved. What could be the returns on investment made on the tourism related project? The damage to environment will have far reaching consequences if the check and balance in not maintained. There are clear evidences of beach pollutions at Colva, Miramar, Calangute and Baga. The rampant construction of hotels on Goa's coastline without proper sanitation and sewage treatment as result hotel injecting sewage in the ground causing underground water contamination. The Golden Beaches of Goa fast turning Coal Beaches and if corrective measures are not taken we will turn Goa beaches like Juhu in Mumbai. Government of Goa claims total 2.12 million domestic .37 international tourists arrived in Goa during the year 2009. But what is the barometer to gauge the success of our tourism industry? Big numbers by itself will not translate into good season. It is also important to know spending habits of the tourist. Bringing hordes of (poor) tourist who just eat fish curry will not bring in economic benefits to the State. Fly by domestic tourist coming to gamble at casinos by night and return back to Mumbai at day-break cannot be counted as tourist. Goa is now more famous for drugs, gambling and rapes than its beaches. It is not in the interest of Goa to maintain this notoriety for the long term success of Tourism Industry. In India and Goa in particular economic changes taking place (Globally almost 3 billion people, half the world's population) and will have major impacts on Social-cultural changes tomorrow. In this context the Government of Goa must develop and be committed to broad based tourism policies based on economic, environmental, and social benefits to the people of Goa. Tourism Policy and Planning has to have key ingredients: Yesterday, Today, and Tomorrow. These key ingredients must give direction to positive tourism policies and planning that will lead this generation and the next toward a greater quality of life resulting from tourism growth. Agnelo Pinheiro Raia/Dubai Follow me on http://www.facebook.com/agnelo.pinheiro#!/group.php?gid=108515795850884 Please click the links below for the poster on mining in Goa: http://maps4change.cis-india.org/images/f/fb/Goa_Mining_Belt.pdf There is also reference to maps in this poster. The following are online maps: 1. Goa Mining Belt
[Goanet] Sad Shocking Demise of Ashok [Yeshu] Sankwalkar - Condolences to the bereaved family.
It was shocking to open the obit pages of the newspapers of 5th. July, 2010 to see the smiling face of Chicalim's most profound Social Activist Ashok Sankwalkar. When I actually first met him at the office of the Convener of the Mapusa Nagrikancho Ekvott as part of the delegation from Chicalim to discuss the Vasco OPD jointly when the MNE was discussing the Mapusa OPD, I was taken up by his zeal to work for GOA's betterment. I had brushed with him here and there, earlier, at various meetings, but had not known him much. The last I met him was at the passport office, Panjim, a couple of months ago when he was being made to run from pillar to post due to some wrong insertion in his passport or something. A forcible speaker and knowledgeable at that, he did stand out among others when he chose to speak on issues concerning the villagers of Goa and especially wider issues concerning his dear Chicalim. I had otherwise gone by his name. But it was not to be. I would have made it for his funeral, despite the heavy rains, to place a handful of mud over his coffin, if it was not for my bad back. Goa shall miss an accomplished, refined and vibrant social leader of caliber in Ashok Sankwalkar. May his good soul rest in eternal peace. Cheers to you Ashok, Cheers to your dear Chicalim GOA. We, the minority, who slog on for the betterment of Goa and Goans will dearly miss you. Floriano lobo General Secretary, Goa Environmental Action Group Goa Su-Raj Party 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org for a 25 minutes expanded Party Presentation on the HP. It is not ENOUGH that GOOD, HONEST citizens contest elections. It is not ENOUGH that GOOD, HONEST citizen voters elect good, honest representatives. GOA urgently needs 'GOOD, HONEST, DISCIPLINED SYSTEM of GOVERNANCE'. Wherein, even a dishonest person is forced to be good, honest n disciplined, or to QUIT. Only through PPS can such 'good, honest n disciplined system of governance' be identified and accepted. PPS GOA =PEOPLE for POLITICAL SANITY = PEOPLE'S POWER SYSTEM for a date in 2012 Display the 'PPS' sticker on your vehicle today, to reject political madness tomorrow. It is not ENOUGH that GOOD, HONEST citizens contest elections. It is not ENOUGH that GOOD, HONEST citizen voters elect good, honest representatives. GOA urgently needs 'GOOD, HONEST, DISCIPLINED SYSTEM of GOVERNANCE'. Wherein, even a dishonest person is forced to be good, honest n disciplined, or to QUIT. Only through PPS can such 'good, honest n disciplined system of governance' be identified and accepted. PPS GOA =PEOPLE for POLITICAL SANITY = PEOPLE'S POWER SYSTEM for a date in 2012 Display the 'PPS' sticker on your vehicle today, to reject political madness tomorrow.
Re: [Goanet] Fwd: Goa in the gutter ( addendum) In defenseofAdminNoronha
Is our dear Gabe, by any chance, insinuating that I, floriano of Goa Su-Raj am shitting in the hands that gave?? Clarification please cheers floriano goasu-raj.org 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org for a 25 minute expandes Party Presentation on the HP - Original Message - From: Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:57 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Fwd: Goa in the gutter ( addendum) In defenseofAdminNoronha On 6 July 2010 21:37, floriano floriano.l...@gmail.com wrote: Jc, Crapola is not even one millionth of the 'CRAP' which is going to be splashing on Dr. Anil-bab's head. To make matters more amiable, having resigned, I received a letter informing me that I was declared 'personna non grata' at their functions.now you know the inside workings of the G.O.A. ( U.K.) Ltd! Now you ask what's up, man? DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] New construction next to Candolim church
To Goanet - Another compelling setting is about to be ruined. The visual of the Candolim church (Our Lady of Good Hope) from the bridge across the Nerul river has been among the most luscious, especially in the monsoons when the hill in the background is carpeted in lush green. But now we see concrete jutting out of the foliage to the right of the church (or to the left from the vantage point of the bridge), part of a new construction project. Surely it won't be long before Mr Raheja sets up shop on the hill. Regards, r
Re: [Goanet] Goa in the gutter ( addendum) In defense of Admin Noronha
Dr. Anil Desai wrote: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-July/195551.html Comment: This is absolute secular slander! All this time, everyone was made to believe that Soter D'Souza, the former BJP Minority Morcha secretary who resigned from the party on 21st April 2002, secretly continued to be in league with Manoharbab and his supporters and was not to be trusted. Admin Noronha has been quick to pull out an interview from the archives and circulate it from to time to keep the lie floating. Hope this mail from Dr. Anil desai will also get circulated from time to time by the non-baised, ethical entrepreneur journalist, Admin Noronha. It is said that 'Politics makes strange bedfellows' but this secular style politics is simply a stupendously fantastically fantabulous performance. The best thing about 'Truth' is that it makes you vomit enough for you to drown in it and then reveals its true self. This is the beauty of saffron's medicinal value that works in its own time to eliminate the toxins. Is it 'Suva Raj' or 'Sewer Raj' now? Hope this is just the tip of the iceberg. The duplicity of many more secular social entrepreneurs will automatically manifest in time to come. God is great! -Soter
Re: [Goanet] chauvanism versus patriotism
--- On Tue, 7/6/10, radharao gracias graciasradha...@gmail.com wrote: I must compliment Santosh Helekar, at the outset, for proving me right. He has taken over the leadership of the chauvanists. I feel vindicated by the response that has come from fellow Indians settled abroad. Vindicated? How convenient it is to move the goal post when caught in a blatant falsehood! Here is what Adv. Gracias said self-assuredly in his Herald article: Our contribution to civilization, (and it cannot be disputed) is zero. No pun intended. .Adv. Radharao Gracias And now he says this: Santosh Helekar has in his several comments pointed out the names of Srinivasan Ramanujan, S.N.Bose, P.C.Mahanabolis and C.V.Raman to buttress his point about the greatness of India. In doing so, he has completely backed my argument. It is not my case that India per se is bad but, our “way of life” has made it so. Each of the four individuals mentioned above were born in the nineteenth century and lived most of their productive lives in British India. .Adv. Radharao Gracias So which side of Adv. Gracias' mouth should we believe? The one which says we Indians have made zero contribution to civilization, no pun intended. Or the one which claims that we made our contributions only when the British were ruling over us. What's worse is he will have to move the goal post again, or this time speak from his nose or something, because the truth is Indians have continued to make original scientific contributions in the post-independence era. The reason Adv. Gracias does not know this is because he has not bothered to find out. Yes, no Indian working in independent India has yet won the Nobel Prize in scientific subjects, but that has more to do with the high cost and advanced state of scientific research today than anything else. As the famous Physics Nobel Laureate Paul Dirac once remarked, referring to the late 19th and early 20th centuries (coincident with Adv. Gracias' British times), contrasting it with modern times, and I paraphrase, it was a glorious time when a second rate physicist could do first rate work. Whereas, now it is very difficult for a first rate physicist to do second rate work. But independent India has continued to produce outstanding indigenous scientists of high international standing. There have been at least 20 Fellows of the Royal Society among those who made their original discoveries after independence. Our own Raghunath Mashelkar, FRS is one of them. The present day genius of the caliber of S. N. Bose is Ashoke Sen, FRS, a world-renowned theoretical physicist at the Harish-Chandra Research Institute, Allahbad, who is one of the pioneers of advanced string theory. There have been a few were unlucky not to win the Nobel Prize, such as G. N. Ramachandran who discovered the structure of collagen, and contributed to the theory behind the CAT scan. There are several national institutes such as Indian Statistical Institute, Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, The Inter-University Centre for Astronomy and Astrophysics, Indian Institute of Science, The National Centre for Biological Sciences, etc, that are making steady original contributions to expand the frontiers of science. Of course, the unsung heroes behind these discoveries would not easily make it on the evening news. They would also not register on Adv. Gracias' politically tuned radar because RSS and other Hindu extremists do not care much about non-Vedic science, and for his Maoist saviors, this is capitalist, western, corporate science. Furthermore, if we follow his revised logic and Nobel yardstick to compare India with Turkey, his exemplar of an ideally developed nation, then despite having all the advantages of proximity with advanced European countries, Turkey has had no Nobel prize winner in science, economics, or peace, and just one in literature. Portugal has had one science prize, and Spain two, one of which was for work done in the U.S. Indeed, the vast majority of science Nobel prizes credited to any country in the world have been awarded for work done in the U.S. In other words, what you are hearing from Adv. Gracias in this regard is pure nonsense. However, I will close by answering his questions. If India is so great why do our people have to go abroad to reach intellectual fulfillment? Rather than cast India in jingoistic terms, I would prefer to simply oppose Indians who denigrate their own country and countrymen out of ignorance, or for political, ideological or religious reasons. As I have shown above, intellectual fulfillment can be attained in India. But it is often difficult to do so because of lack of facilities, resources and specific expertise, which are heavily dependent on availability of funds for academic research. If India is great why would these people achieve greatness only after forsaking the country and living in the West? As I mentioned earlier,
Re: [Goanet] Fwd: Goa in the gutter ( addendum) In defenseofAdminNoronha
On 7 July 2010 08:20, floriano floriano.l...@gmail.com wrote: Is our dear Gabe, by any chance, insinuating that I, floriano of Goa Su-Raj am shitting in the hands that gave?? Clarification please cheers floriano goasu-raj.org 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org for a 25 minute expandes Party Presentation on the HP RESPONSE: I am not insinuating anything - I have no interest in getting embroiled in something I have not the faintest idea of. Good luck in your endeavours. -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
Re: [Goanet] Goa in the gutter ( addendum) In defense of AdminNoronha
The now transparent SECULARs who are flying their (his) flag from the highest post has been a recruited RSS-BJP and who was licking their arses for a ticket for the Aldona Constituency not long ago. Having been denied this ticket, the sweet nectar of the RSS-BJP has turned into venom so much so that it has made him give it in writing to a rank outsider, a bhailo, that he will not contest elections. Is that not true??? Go hang yourself from the highest tree on the Porvorim plateau, Mr. Soter. A Goan who is talking so strongly of Goa getting his nuts cut-off by a marauding bhailo??? Who is this joker telling things?? Goa Su-Raj Party under my leadership has gone on record, not once, but many a times, to say that if it is necessary, repeat, if it is necessary, this Party will enlist the support of the GOA BJP to dislodge each and every MLA of the Congress in Goa. Anyone can go and check the archives. Even to this day this option is open PROVIDED Goa BJP denounces 'HINDUTVA' and its programmes. You have anything to say to this Mr. Soter D'Souza?? A time will come when the words you are uttering ( the name caling exercise) will gag you into inconsequence if it has not already done so. Mark my words. You don't know who you are dealing with. You want to say something of consequence then detach that miserable unbilical chord of yours you have tied down to the bhailo in full view of Goans and who is taking Goans (including the sorry you) for a joly good ride in the name of PEACEFUL SOCIETY. Peaceful my bloody foot. Come back to me if you have anything to say over this. Cheers floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org for 25 minutes expanded Presentation of the Party on the HP. PS: Let Anil-bab answer the question I have put to him. And then we shall see whose pants will be knocked off to show the hollow saffronite. - Original Message - From: soter so...@bsnl.in To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa in the gutter ( addendum) In defense of AdminNoronha Dr. Anil Desai wrote: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-July/195551.html Comment: This is absolute secular slander! All this time, everyone was made to believe that Soter D'Souza, the former BJP Minority Morcha secretary who resigned from the party on 21st April 2002, secretly continued to be in league with Manoharbab and his supporters and was not to be trusted. Admin Noronha has been quick to pull out an interview from the archives and circulate it from to time to keep the lie floating. Hope this mail from Dr. Anil desai will also get circulated from time to time by the non-baised, ethical entrepreneur journalist, Admin Noronha. It is said that 'Politics makes strange bedfellows' but this secular style politics is simply a stupendously fantastically fantabulous performance. The best thing about 'Truth' is that it makes you vomit enough for you to drown in it and then reveals its true self. This is the beauty of saffron's medicinal value that works in its own time to eliminate the toxins. Is it 'Suva Raj' or 'Sewer Raj' now? Hope this is just the tip of the iceberg. The duplicity of many more secular social entrepreneurs will automatically manifest in time to come. God is great! -Soter
[Goanet] GOA-Court rejects Pacheco's bail plea
A local court today rejected the bail plea of former Goa Tourism Minister Fransisco Mickey Pacheco in connection with the death of his friend Nadia Torrado. Additional Sessions judge Pramod Kamat denied bail to Pacheco, who surrendered before the court on Saturday last after his anticipatory bail petition was rejected by the Supreme Court. Pacheco is currently undergoing treatment for hypertension, jaundice and urinary tract infection at the Hospicio hospital in Margao. The court has ordered that the crime branch can take his custody once he is discharged from the hospital or is medically fit. The 46-year-old NCP legislator was booked by police on the charge of abetment to suicide and culpable homicide not amounting to murder. Pacheco's close friend Nadia, 28, had allegedly consumed poison on May 15 and subsequently was admitted to various private hospitals in Goa, Thane and Chennai. She died on May 30. _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969
Re: [Goanet] Goa in the gutter (addendum)
To Goanet - Dear Dr. Desai, Deeply sorry to hear about the ten grand pissed down the Goa Susu-raj drainhole. At least you didn't end up as My friend Anil next to My friend Audhut. Sailor boy is now promising to throw another tantrum. Ooooh scary scary. Warm regards, r Dr. Anil Desai wrote: Response: What a magnificient article by a hugely succeful goan politician. I think it was Miguel who informed us that the last time Floriano Lobo contested assembly elections, he got around 217 votes. It is therefore not surprising, is it, that BJP will approach this megalomaniac to get back to power. Now let me inform Goanetters about a few facts. I , Anil Desai, am an admirer of Manohar Parrikar and wish to see him back as the chief minister of Goa. I have openly supported him in the past and will do so again in future. He is by no means a perfect man but I believe he is still the best all round politician that goa has to offer. I met Floriano Lobo over a cup of tea during December 2007 at the suggestion of a catholic friend of mine from Salcette. This friend has been with me since we first met and studied together in 1973 in goa. Even after this meeting, I did not know that Floriano Lobo headed a political party. Subsequently, we had two very useful meetings at a catholic priest's residence/ workplace in Margao. The meetings were attended by two fine young catholic men with political aspirations, the catholic priest who was a proper God's man on earth, a BJP funtionary who was an observer, another BJP supporter, my friend and Floriano Lobo and me. At both the meetings Mr Lobo was quite complimentary about Manoharbab and was quite willing to work with the BJP. He did raise the issue of VCD but when I asked him directly whether during Parrikar regime, there were any attacks on catholic religious places, all he could say was that the door of a church in Curchorem was probably vandalised. After the second meeting came a gentle request through my friend. There was going to be a rally in Panjim under the auspices of the Mathany Saldanha and the same Manohar Parrikar that Florian finds so detestable. Our Mr Lobo was one of the main speakers there and you might have guessed it - he wanted money to take his supporters to this meeting. I was not as lucky as Rajan Parrikar. I parted with Ten thousand rupees. Obviously you would expect a gentleman of Floriano's stature who, given half a chance put both Advani and Manmohan Singh in jail, would give me a proper receipt on behalf of Goa Sewer-raj as his is the only decent, honest political outfit that exists in Goa. I was lucky though. The day after this meeting, Mr Lobo actually called me from Mumbai promising to work with us. So, Mr Floriano Lobo, do one thing. Publish the accounts of your party for that year. Let Goanetters know how much money went into your begging bowl during that year and how much tax your party paid on these donations. Once you have done that, report Parrikar to Goa police or CBI with all the data you have gathered. Let him face the music. Once you have done that, sit down and start abusing me.I am sure goanet moderators, if not all of them, then at least Mr Frederick Noronha, the resident joker of goanet will allow you to abuse us with your choicest words. I would allow you one word for every rupee I put in your begging bowl. Anil Desai
[Goanet] On The Character of Goans (formerly Re: Swindon Goan Festival)
Dears Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com wrote a little short story (given below) in the post with the subject line (Re: [Goanet] Swindon Goan Festival) directed towards Freddy Fernandes who, I quote, asked: Is it a compulsion to invite Goan Politicians for any function by Goans around the world ? I am sure the answer is no...yak yak yak ... == Tony wrote: Dear Freddy, I happened to be traveling to Panjim from Mapusa by cab. Since I was the lone passenger, I struck up a conversation with the cabbie. Apparently, he was a Goan (Catholic) from say village X. As happens, when Goans meet, the conversation goes something like this; Arre baba, you are from X do you know Anton Pedru Ladrao? And do you know Shencor Saulo Sawkar? etc During a lull in the conversation, the cabbie told me, did you know Y is our MLA? And the conversation went on like this. (I will omit quote marks for simplicity) Cabbie (C): Arre baba, to koslo re boro munis. Tony T: Unhh (non-committal grunt) C: To kitem re poixe vantta. Socalchi goddi tenger lokachi ani soggle teka melltat poixe magpak T: Annh, to poixe vantta? Goddi tor asa zalear zaite poixe zaizatele noi? C: Konakuch rite hattan dhadina. Te dissa, ek gorib bail geli teka meupak. Tichem ghor moddlelem. Tor tika tis hazar (30, 000) rupia dille Tor gorib lokanchi to modot korta. etc Comment: This is a true story and not a figment of my imagination. So if this is the pulse of the aam admi, does it mean that the aam admi wants the MLA to dish out a hand out every time he/ she drops in at the MLA's durbar? Is the aam admi naive not to realize to do this type of charity, the money has to be coming in by some unlawful means? Or does (s)he feel that the MLA is spending his personal fortune? I have also heard of another prominent MLA from South Goa who never refuses hospitality to anyone who visits his place? And that the cauldron of canji is always on the boil. So figure it out. The aam admi is indirectly inviting corruption and then the same guy complains. Best Tony . I agree with Tony. There is no doubt a chicken and egg situation prevailing here. But I agree with Tony entirely. At least one reason why the politician is in business is because he knows that he can make money because the aam admi knows he cannot get his way legitimately, and feels he has to get around our murderously tangled laws. Let us take an example: Joao de Moira wants to build a house in the little plot he owns, but according to the prevailing laws - about 1 sq. m. of setbacks cannot be provided by him. So no house for Joao. What should Joao do? He cannot afford to buy a plot of land at the current extortionist rates. Everyone sympathises with his plight and agrees that he is not troubling anybody by not giving 1 sq. m. of setbacks but laws are laws. Even when everyone knows that the law is an ass. In the end the problem was solved by Dada, his friendly panch, who tells him to go ahead and construct and not even ask him for a bribe. Of course in the next election, Joao's vote is assured. But more importantly, when Kantilal the big builder decides to convert all the remainig banana plantations of Moira into concrete jungles, Dada is the conduit to get all the permissions. Now who will object to what? Certainly not Joao who has got a personal favour and would not like to sour relations with Dada. So O dear Tony, you are absolutely right as usual. As you say, The aam admi is indirectly inviting corruption and then the same guy complains. Or even better does not complain at all. To revert to Freddy Fernandes's stupid question, Is it a compulsion to invite Goan Politicians for any function by Goans around the world ? my answer would be, Why do you sit in foriegn lands and give sermons to others? Why don't you come to Goa and live here and raise your voice wherever you see injustice? Because the problem in Goa is that there is not a critical mass of people who are like you darling, whose voices can count. If such eloquent chaps like you could come to Goa to raise your voice along with other very eloquent chaps like Jose Colaco, Santosh Helekar, Mario Gouveia, Arwin Mesquita and so on and so forth, then maybe we could all do something to change the state of affairs that prevails over here. Instead NRI worthies like you love giving sermaos even when you know that it is your physical presence and not your words that is important. No Cheers Augusto -- Augusto Pinto 40, Novo Portugal, Moira, Bardez, Goa, India E pinto...@gmail.com or ypinto...@yahoo.co.in P 0832-2470336 M 9881126350
Re: [Goanet] Fwd: Goa in the gutter ( addendum) IndefenseofAdminNoronha
- Original Message - From: Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Fwd: Goa in the gutter ( addendum) IndefenseofAdminNoronha On 7 July 2010 08:20, floriano floriano.l...@gmail.com wrote: Is our dear Gabe, by any chance, insinuating that I, floriano of Goa Su-Raj am shitting in the hands that gave?? Clarification please cheers floriano goasu-raj.org 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org for a 25 minute expandes Party Presentation on the HP RESPONSE: I am not insinuating anything - I have no interest in getting embroiled in something I have not the faintest idea of. Good luck in your endeavours. -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
Re: [Goanet] Goa in the gutter (addendum)
Nothing much constructive can be expected from this run of the mill arse licking Manohar -nappy-changer. He might as well give us some good shots of the job being done. :-)) ((:- Perhaps this a***h*** has forgotten having been privately told what the sailor-boy is capable of. It will help to go back to the inbox and refresh you miserable memory. As for Anil-bab, I am still waiting for him to answer my question. if he remembers where he has pissed his ten grands, in which susu drain-hole. And it sure is taking him a long long time. Cheers floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org for 25 minute expanded Party Presentation on the HP - Original Message - From: Rajan P. Parrikar parri...@yahoo.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa in the gutter (addendum) To Goanet - Dear Dr. Desai, Deeply sorry to hear about the ten grand pissed down the Goa Susu-raj drainhole. At least you didn't end up as My friend Anil next to My friend Audhut. Sailor boy is now promising to throw another tantrum. Ooooh scary scary. Warm regards, r
Re: [Goanet] Fwd: Goa in the gutter ( addendum) IndefenseofAdminNoronha
Gabe, Thanks for the clarification. I thought it reeked of insinuation. B/rgds floriano - Original Message - From: Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Fwd: Goa in the gutter ( addendum) IndefenseofAdminNoronha On 7 July 2010 08:20, floriano floriano.l...@gmail.com wrote: Is our dear Gabe, by any chance, insinuating that I, floriano of Goa Su-Raj am shitting in the hands that gave?? Clarification please RESPONSE: I am not insinuating anything - I have no interest in getting embroiled in something I have not the faintest idea of. Good luck in your endeavours. -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
Re: [Goanet] Fwd: Goa in the gutter ( addendum) In defense ofAdminNoronha
Dear Gabe, I have heard previously of the UK Goa Dissociation. The other two dissociations which are known to behave badly exist in Canada and in Kuwait. It is not clear why Bishop Gracias was mentioned in your post. Do you believe that Abel should bear the responsibility for Caine's actions? Having noted that, it is my distinct view that personal financial instruments should be kept separate from community financial affairs.even if it is the only way to get things done. Only the shabby treat others shabbily in person. All this (I have come to believe) depends upon upbringing. It is one thing to make one's point vociferously. It is another to behave in an uncouth fashion. The declaration of a founder-member as 'persona non grata' and the summary 'expulsion' of members who have worked hard for many years . are signs of LOW classiness. Money and 3 piece suits do not buy class. I am glad that you have treated it like water on a duck's back .and just ignored it. jc On 6 July 2010 19:27, Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com wrote: [1] On a more serious matter - I have bent over backwards to help our Goan Association (U.K.) I have given more than £500 to the Association. More than that I have given guarantees and an unsecured loan of £25,000 [2] It is for the record that ... Clarence Mascarenhas, senior member and past President of the G.O.A. (U.K.) Ltd had complained ... of shabby treatment meted out to him; [3] This was all done under the watch of one Flavio Gracias, brother of the Auxiliary Bishop of Bombay. [4] To make matters more amiable, having resigned, I received a letter informing me that I was declared 'personna non grata' at their functions. [5] now you know the inside workings of the G.O.A. ( U.K.) Ltd!
Re: [Goanet] Fwd: Goa in the gutter ( addendum) In defense of Admin Noronha
On 6 July 2010 17:47, anil desai anild...@gmail.com wrote: What a magnificient article by a hugely succeful goan politician. I think it was Miguel who informed us that the last time Floriano Lobo contested assembly elections, he got around 217 votes. It is therefore not surprising, is it, that BJP will approach this megalomaniac to get back to power. This raises a very important point! Let us not pretend that the one-and-two votes don't add up and make a difference in an election result. Because of the conservative, communally-divided nature of Goan politics (this has been the case since 1963, and before, in other ways since one-man-one-vote elections weren't around then). many constituencies are marginal, and the difference in votes between winner and runner-up could be a few hundred in number. (In one election, somewhere in the late 1980s or early 1990s), there were ten seats won on 800 votes or less, if I recall right. The BJP's electoral strategy as of now seems to be: if you can't win, make sure the Congress loses. Every small anti-Congress group can be effectively utilised, specially in a marginal seat. A strategically-supported Babush Monserrate can change the situation in taking on a seemingly undefeatable Somnath Zuwarkar in Taleigao (never mind that Babush proved worse than the illness, and was subsequently conveniently disowned). A Mickky can upset the Alemao applecart, and a John (now accused in the Russian rape case) can come pretty close. Likewise, a Matanhy -- who was struggling to win Cortalim on his own for decades, despite his earlier good record -- can do wonders and pull down a seemingly entrenched if controversial Mauvin Godinho. The list can go on and on... Francis D'Souza, despite have no apparent winnable base and jumping the entire political spectrum in Mapusa (Goa Congress, Independent, Congress, BJP) has shown how the right support base in Goa can make a undistinguished candidate win and win and win! At the end of the day, the BJP-versus-Congress dichotomy which some are attempting to build up, on Goanet and elsewhere, is quite a fake. What is the difference between these two parties, in ideology, politics, approach towards communalism, and support base? Whoever wins, the same set of dubious players are on the top. The Goan voter has a choice in political terms -- any shade will do, as long as it's black! Even Manohar Parrikar, the hero of some of a handful of the most loquacious campaigners on Goanet, goes on to dub campaigners against mining as Naxalites. So much for Goa's Opposition! About the ruling party, we have at least long ceased to expect better. FN
Re: [Goanet] What a shame!!!
1.Write something about Goa and your experiences about Goa (prefeably without caps). 2. This other cut and paste stuff can get you into shameful situation called p-l-a-g-i-a-r-i-s-m -if you try to pass someone else's writings as your own. [www.plagiarism.org/]. 3. Relax. You belong here. You act like a real Goencar. From: Gina Fernandes fg...@rocketmail.com To: E DeSousa ejd...@att.net Cc: estb. 1994! Goa's premiere mailing list goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 9:45:35 AM Subject: What a shame!!! Hi Desousa, For your kind information SHARING KNOWLEDGE with friends and family is just not CUT,COPY, PASTEANYWAYS YOU ARE A BUFFOON HOW TO MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND!!! Have a nice day. Gina Ferns From: E DeSousa ejd...@att.net To: Gina Fernandes fg...@rocketmail.com Sent: Tue, 6 July, 2010 4:34:54 PM Subject: Re: Self Appraisal we already have con menezes doing cut and paste.. of course you are in a different space. From: Gina Fernandes fg...@rocketmail.com To: estb. 1994! Goa's premiere mailing list goanet@lists.goanet.org Cc: EJ Dsousa ejd...@att.net Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 6:56:28 AM Subject: Self Appraisal Self Appraisal A little boy went into a drug store, reached for a soda carton and pulled it over to the telephone. He climbed onto the carton so that he could reach the buttons on the phone and proceeded to punch in seven digits (phone numbers). The store-owner observed and listened to the conversation: Boy: Lady, Can you give me the job of cutting your lawn? Woman: (at the other end of the phone line): I already have someone to cut my lawn. Boy: Lady, I will cut your lawn for half the price of the person who cuts your lawn now. Woman: I'm very satisfied with the person who is presently cutting my lawn. Boy: (with more perseverance) : Lady, I'll even sweep your house and your sidewalk, so on Sunday you will have the prettiest lawn in all of Palm beach , Florida. Woman: No, thank you. With a smile on his face, the little boy replaced the receiver. The store-owner, who was listening to all this, walked over to the boy. Son... I like your attitude; I like that positive spirit and would like to offer you a job. Boy: No thanks. Store Owner: But you were really pleading for one. No Sir, I was just checking my performance at the job I already have. I am the one who is working for that lady I was talking to! Have a nice day Gina Ferns
Re: [Goanet] Goa in the gutter ( addendum) In defense of AdminNoronha
Floriano wrote You have anything to say to this Mr. Soter D'Souza? comments: Just to say that hell has broken loose after the secular slander by Dr. Anil Desai. Nothing can be peaceful now. -Soter
[Goanet] Dhond Memorial Badminton at Panaji(July 15-18)
Dear all, The 2nd all Goa Major Ranking Badminton Tournament of the 2010-11 season which was scheduled to be held at Margao(sponsored by BPS Club) has been postponed. In its place, Goa Badminton Association shall organize the same Tournament sponsored by Dhond Memorial from July 15-18 at Indoor Stadium, Campal, Panaji. Categories will be for both boys and girls in Under 10, Under 13, Under 16 and Under 19. Those interested in participating may submit their entries to the badminton coaches at the following Indoor Stadiums: Roy Athaide (Panaji/ Mapusa), Vinayak Kamat (Margao), and Rajiv Bhargava (Ponda), latest by 12th July(5pm). Entry forms are available with the coaches or at Oasis Petrol Pump, near Don Bosco High School, Panaji. Yours sincerely Sandeep Heble Member Goa Badminton Association 9326129171
[Goanet] Bicholim woman sets herself ablaze
-- Samir Umarye BICHOLIM, JULY 6: A 30-year-old woman from Kudchirem-Bicholim committed suicide by setting herself ablaze at her residence late Sunday night. According to Bicholim police, one Nikita Naresh Gaonkar committed the act as her husband would frequently abuse her. On Sunday night, when her husband started abusing her, she allegedly poured kerosene and set herself ablaze, as she could no longer bear her husband’s abuses. Nikita died on the spot. She was married four years ago and has a one-and-half-year old son. Deputy Collector Narayan Gaad and PSI Harish Madkaikar conducted the panchanama.
[Goanet] New Grand Hyatt in Goa (opening Winter 2010)
To Goanet - See - http://goa.grand.hyatt.com/hyatt/hotels/index.jsp Right by the Bambolim beach. Note that it is part of the Aldeia de Goa project (the one GBA made a big hoo-ha about fighting). This is merely the trailer. Tens of new hotel projects are in the pipeline in Goa. Prepare for a new concrete deluge (in addition to the new ghati deluge). Admin Noronha will blame all of it on my telephoto lens. Regards, r
Re: [Goanet] New Grand Hyatt in Goa (opening Winter 2010)
To Goanet - I queried my database and retrieved photos of the Bambolim rally held by GBA on Dec 26, 2006. What is presumably now the Grand Hyatt - http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/bambolim-1.jpg The blue-eyed footsie-dancer publicity whore preening to reporters (the would-be Indian of the Year for - hold your breath - ushering in a Green Goa) - http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/bambolim-2.jpg And left in the dust, the women of our land - http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/bambolim-3.jpg Admin Noronha take note: all photos taken with my 70-200mm telephoto lens. Regards, r From: Rajan P. Parrikar parri...@yahoo.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 7:05:33 AM Subject: New Grand Hyatt in Goa (opening Winter 2010) To Goanet - See - http://goa.grand.hyatt.com/hyatt/hotels/index.jsp Right by the Bambolim beach. Note that it is part of the Aldeia de Goa project (the one GBA made a big hoo-ha about fighting). This is merely the trailer. Tens of new hotel projects are in the pipeline in Goa. Prepare for a new concrete deluge (in addition to the new ghati deluge). Admin Noronha will blame all of it on my telephoto lens. Regards, r
[Goanet] A humble tribute :-On the occasion of 26 th death anniversary of Poet Balakrishna Bhagvant Borkar
On the occasion of 26 th death anniversary of Poet Balakrishna Bhagvant Borkar (B. 30 November 1910, Curchorem, Goa , death- 8 July 1984, Pune, Maharashtra) “Once upon a time, in a beautiful land called GOA, amche Goem lived a poet Bakibab Borkar” ( Our Grandchildren in AD. 2060) “ and generations of Goans to come would not believe that such a poet was born and literally lived poetry all his life in Goa” ( who said that?) Short biography:- 1926:-First published poem in Marathi 1929:- Passes matriculate from Dharwad, then completed Portuguese education in Goa 1930:-Teacher in Government school and marriage to Ms. Rukminibai Sardesai 1933:-Meets famous Marathi novelist V.S. Khandekar, Publishes first Marathi poetry collection –“ Pratibha’ (genius) 1934:- Meets B.R.Tambe, the popular Marathi poet; Overwhelms the audience in Baroda literary meet and wins the Gold Medal for poetry reading for “Tethe Kar maze Julati’ ( Salute to the great ones…) 1946:-Participates in movement launched by Dr. Ram Manohar Lohia. Tenders resignation from government job. Leaves for Bombay. Edits “porzecho avaz’ a mouthpiece of freedom struggle 1955-61:-Appointment on AIR Pune as spoken word producer 1961-70:- Appointment on AIR, Panaji as spoken word producer ( Marathi, Konkani, English, Hindi and Portuguese), also in forefront in opposing Goa’s merger with Maharashtra, vehemently champions Goa’s separate identity, writes poems on the same, invites the wrath of his Marathi well wishers 1970:-Special issue of ‘Mandovi’ dedicated for completion of 60 years, edited by late Shriram Kamat 1970-84:- Devoted to lecture tours, poetry recitation, writing, guiding young generation of poets and writers, promoting library movement, arts and literature July 8, 1984:- Death in Pune . A literary journey of 58 years comes to an end. Literary contributions:- Total published books (1930-1987):- 43, Marathi:-33, Konkani:-10 Total 11 poetry collections- about 1000 Marathi poems, Pratibha (1930), Jivansangeet (1937), Dudhsagar(1947), Anandbhairavi (1950), Chitraveena (1960), Gitar (1965), Chaitrapunav (1970), Kanchansandhya (1981), Anuragini (1982), Chinmayee ( 1984), Lavanyarekha (unpublished) Three edited anthologies-Borkaranchi Kavita (1960), Chandavel (1972), Kaivalyche Zad (1987) Besides- Essay collections (4), Novels (4), Short story collections (2), Biographies (2), translations (6), Edited anthology (1-Kusumagraja-Maharashtra’s celebrated poet laureate) And 10 books in Konkani including the poetry collections “Paizana’ and ‘Sasay’. The trustee of Poet Borkar memorial committee, Pune Ujwala Vasant Sardesai has published two volumes (2005, 2008) of the entire Marathi poetry of Bakibab under the caption “Borkaranchi Samagara Kavita’. These include 782 poems. This is an ivaluable resource for students and research scholars of his poetry. Goa Konkani academy is bringing out new editions of his Konkani poetry –“Paizana’ and “Sasay” on July 8th. There is no befitting memorial of Bakibab in Goa. There are legal problems to take over and convert his residence at Bori ‘shantiniketan’ in a memorial. A small street in Porvorim was named after him. Shri Sarswati Mandir library in Panaji organizes an annual poetry competition in his memory. So also Konkani Bhasha Mandal, Margao. The Goa government had appointed a state level birth centenary committee last year which is considering several suggestions. The Chief Minister has recently announced a special chair in the name of B.B.Borkar in Goa University for studies in comparative literature and poetics. Most of his poetry has not been translated/transliterated in major world languages. To the post Bakibab generation he is still unknown, a puzzle, a riddle, an enigma. It is sad to see that there is very little global awareness about Goa’s most sung, most loved, most romantic, most cultured, most spiritual genius poet…. All his life he spoke for unity of mankind, understanding all religions, promoting peace and social harmony…he spoke lovingly about Christianity and the life of Jesus as well as the Maharashtrian saints-Dnayaneshwara and Tukarama. He sang sufi songs and bowed his head before the noble thoughts in Islamic spirituality. He idolized Gandhiji and Tagore. He sang glories of Gibran and Pessoa. He loved Neruda and Octavio Paz. He was a true global citizen. I knew Bakibab as a school student. But I came in his contact only after 1980. I always enjoyed talking to him. Tears flood my eyes so easily when I remember the words he had written to me on a post card after he read my series of articles on history of Goa (1982-3) “ You are born in a blessed land…don’t forget those who came before you” Bakibab, You are in my heart! Mhoji Tukam aarga -- Dr. Nandkumar Kamat, GOA
[Goanet] Ho ‘1077 - Flying Squad’ asa o u melo ghai?
Ho ‘1077 - Flying Squad’ asa ou melo ghai? Yes, the much talk about 24hrs free phone 1077 for Flying Squad is dead? Govt. has recently introduced 1077 for reporting illegal hill cutting, land filling etc And it was said the number will be operative round the clock i.e. 24 hours and that the flying squad will inspect the site with 24hours Today, as we were heading to Keri via Corgao, we saw a stone quarry by the road side. We immediately stopped (No board to display) and ask the person around. Do you have a license? He replied ‘Humara Parao (Bavan Goundde) janta hai, chahe to usko fon koro 9422395506’ There was a truck nearby waiting to fill up No. being GA-03 T6671 Supervisor bike also seen GA03 J 9506 ? (see pic) We immediately dialed 1077 but my reliance phone keep saying ‘please check your No’ despite trying both ways direct and with prefixing 0832 Then we borrowed our driver’s Idea phone it worked directly i.e. 1077 bell going and going but there was no response, we been trying since 4pm till 5.30pm but no luck. Then we stopped at Panjim around 6.30pm and tried from landline, again bell was going but no one to pick up? So, this 24hour flying squad 1077 'asa ou melo ghai?' Pics of stone Quarry http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk26/4771360750/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk26/4771362528/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk26/4770724163/sizes/l/ The place is called ‘Petivado’ Corgao we were told. More details to receive soon like Survey No etc Earlier, we been to this place about 2 months ago, pics were also posted. Quote from a newspaper: When asked about the flying squad's own promptness in attending to complaints, Ferrao said that the flying squad ensures that it visits the complaint site within 24 hours of receipt of complaint. But the telephone helpline (1077) to receive complaints is open 24 hours Please forward this to relevant authorities and NGOs thanks. joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Workshop on Creative Writing in Konkani
Workshop on Creative Writing in Konkani Fr. Freddy J. Da Costa Memorial Trust is organizing a workshop on Creative Writing in Konkani. This workshop, to mark the birth anniversary of Fr. Freddy , will be held in Margao on Sunday, July 20, 2010, between 3.30 p.m. and 5.15 p.m. It will be open to all writers in Konkani. Venue: Grace Church Hall (First floor), Margao The participants will be guided by: Ms. Guadalupe Dias - Creative writing, and Dr. Jayanti Naik - Short story writing. The necessary materials (like paper, pen, file etc.) will be supplied to the participants during the workshop. No fee whatsoever is to be paid. But, due to constraints of space, the number of participants may need to be restricted. Therefore, Writers desirous of participating in this workshop are requested to contact one of the following to register their names: Fr. Manuel Gomes (President): 9764706080, Prof. S M Borges (Secretary): 9860816598, Fausto V. Da Costa (Member): 9821228684 At the same function, at 5.15 p.m. the following GULAB Awards 2009 will be presented: a) Man of the Year, b) Best Writer, c) Best Singer (male), d) Best Singer (female) and e) Tiatrist of the Year. Prizes will be distributed to the Winners of the Literary Competitions conducted by the Trust will also be distributed. Commissioner for NRI Affairs Shri Eduardo Faleiro has kindly consented to be the chief guest and Carambolim parish priest Fr. Conceicao D'Silva and Kala Mogi, Kuwait, President Shri Domingo Araujo will be the guests of honour and give away the prizes. (S. M. Borges) Secretary
[Goanet] chauvanism versus patriotism
I fail to understand whether Santosh Helekar is deliberately misinterpreting the contents of my article or he lacks knowledge of the English language. In my article, I have stated: Our contribution to civilization, (and it cannot be disputed) is zero. “No pun intended. I maintain, reiterate and reconfirm it. It is well known and undisputed fact that India invented “zero” and it cannot be disputed that it is our contribution to World Civilisation and that is why I have put the word “zero” in inverted commas. I have thereafter used the words “no pun intended” expecting someone like Santosh Helekar, may get confused. But in vain. There is no need for me to move any goal posts. It is our post independence hockey team, that may have to do so ! We may then at least qualify for the next Olympics. It has never been my case that Indians in India are not involved in scientific research. But it is my case that nothing substantial has been achieved by Indian research post independence. There are and always will be intelligent people aiming to achieve some scientific break through as we Indians certainly do not lack intellect. If it was not for our “way of life”, we would have dozens of Nobel Prize winners. Why has Santosh Helekar migrated to the USA if everything is hunky dory in India? Is he a hypocrite? It is not unlikely that the great personalities which Santosh Helekar has mentioned would have done much better if they had a more conducive environment. Again there is misinterpretation of my submissions by Santosh Helekar. I have not at any time said that Turkey is an ideally developed nation. What I pointed out is that at a critical juncture Turkey had in Kemal Attaturk a leader who understood the reasons for the backwardness of his country and pushed it on the path to modernity by discarding age old superstitions and rotten traditions, the type which still prevail in our country. It cannot be disputed that Turkey alone of all the Islamic nations stands out as a modern forward looking country with a secular law where a Muslim can have only one wife at a time. I am not concerned with the number of Nobel prizes that Spain or Portugal has won. I hold no brief for those countries. However, I am certainly concerned that my own country with a billion and two hundred million people, (fifteen times more than the combined population of Spain and Portugal) has no Nobel prize to its credit post independence. In the concluding part of his comments in answering the two queries raised by me as to why Indians have to go abroad to achieve fulfillment, Santosh Helekar has unwittingly backed my arguments by stating “As I mentioned earlier, many of them have achieved it in India. But it is easier to do so in the U.S. today because of the reasons stated above. To wrap up, I would just like to say that my own criticism of present day India from the standpoint of scientific advancement is its lumbering bureaucracy, poor choice of priorities, lack of philanthropy and absence of serious financial commitment to cutting edge research from the government and private sector”. Precisely so, I would like my country to be what the US is today. And the only way we can do it, is by discarding superstitions, jingoism, bigotry and the ill founded belief in our greatness. Let us strive to be great. Radharao F.Gracias Vindicated? How convenient it is to move the goal post when caught in a blatant falsehood! Here is what Adv. Gracias said self-assuredly in his Herald article:Our contribution to civilization, (and it cannot be disputed) is zero. No pun intended..Adv. Radharao Gracias And now he says this:Santosh Helekar has in his several comments pointed out the names of Srinivasan Ramanujan, S.N.Bose, P.C.Mahanabolis and C.V.Raman to buttress his point about the greatness of India. In doing so, he has completely backed my argument. It is not my case that India per se is bad but, our “way of life” has made it so. Each of the four individuals mentioned above were born in the nineteenth century and lived most of their productive lives in British India..Adv. Radharao GraciasSo which side of Adv. Gracias' mouth should we believe? The one which says we Indians have made zero contribution to civilization, no pun intended. Or the one which claims that we made our contributions only when the British were ruling over us.What's worse is he will have to move the goal post again, or this time speak from his nose or something, because the truth is Indians have continued to make original scientific contributions in the post-independence era. The reason Adv. Gracias does not know this is because he has not bothered to find out. Yes, no Indian working in independent India has yet won the Nobel Prize in scientific subjects, but that has more to do with the high cost and advanced state of scientific research today than anything else. As the famous Physics Nobel Laureate Paul Dirac once remarked, referring to the
Re: [Goanet] ON MICKY'S CONDUCT
On 7 July 2010 05:32, Aires Rodrigues airesrodrigu...@gmail.com wrote: The overall conduct of Benaulim MLA Mr. Mickky Pacheco over the last decade leaves much to be desired. A legislator being a law maker should be the last person to mock the rule of law. Come on Aires, do you really believe (and expect us to believe) that legislators in today's Goa are judged on the basis of their abilities to draft laws? Are they voted to power on that basis at all? And do you sincerely believe that the occasional targetting one or two politicians (from the entire pack) has anything remotely to do with a desired clean-up in Goa? As a law maker Mickky Pacheco should realise that he cannot take the long arm of the law for a ride. He is accused of a very serious crime. The Court of law is the only place where he should prove his innocence. Hiring his supporters to assemble outside the court in solidarity serves no purpose as this in fact amounts to contempt of Court and interference with the administration of justice. Every good Judge goes by the merits of the case and cannot be influenced or manipulated by other considerations. And good judges we have many. Also, the kind of media hype that is repeatedly built-up (and then suddenly dropped), does this not amount to contempt of Court and interference with the administration of justice which you are otherwise so concerned about? FN
[Goanet] Time mag apologizes for article on Indian-Americans
Time magazine apologises for article on Indian-Americans By Arun Kumar Washington, July 7 (IANS) Time magazine has apologised to Indian Americans after some of them took umbrage at a humour piece, which they said has racist overtones, about the community in Edison, New Jersey, where every fifth resident is a native of India. We sincerely regret that any of our readers were upset by Joel Stein's recent humour column My Own Private India. It was in no way intended to cause offence, the prestigious US magazine said as the community protest snowballed. I truly feel stomach-sick that I hurt so many people, wrote columnist Stein, who had given his own take on he had seen Edison, where he had grown up, change over the years with the desi influx. I was trying to explain how, as someone who believes that immigration has enriched American life and my hometown in particular, I was shocked that I could feel a tiny bit uncomfortable with my changing town when I went to visit it. If we could understand that reaction, we'd be better equipped to debate people on the other side of the immigration issue, he wrote. The advocacy group South Asian Americans Leading Together (SAALT) launched an online petition asking the editors of Time to organise a panel discussing the article's impact and to dedicate a special space in the magazine's upcoming edition to response from the Indian-American community. Indian American actor Kal Penn, former associate director of the White House Office of Public Engagement, too weighed in on the issue with a column titled The Hilarious Xenophobia of Time's Joel Stein in Huffington Post. I want to applaud Joel Stein for his hilarious account of Edison, New Jersey in his Time magazine article this week, 'My Own Private India'; it is unique and groundbreaking as Thomas Alva himself, he wrote. Critics might call Mr. Stein's humour super-tired or as played out as the jokes about that cheap Jewish car that stopped on a dime to pick it up, or that African American kid who got marked absent at night school. Although unlike Stein's Indian American piece, in 2010 those other jokes don't show up in mainstream media like Time magazine. I wonder why that is..., Penn added. Writing about the changes in his home town, Stein had written: Eventually, there were enough Indians in Edison to change the culture. At which point my townsfolk started calling the new Edisonians 'dot heads'. One kid I knew in high school drove down an Indian-dense street yelling for its residents to 'go home to India', Stein wrote. Sometime after I left, the town became a maze of charmless Indian strip malls and housing developments. Whenever I go back, I feel what people in Arizona talk about: A sense of loss and anomie and disbelief that anyone can eat food that spicy. I never knew how a bunch of people half a world away chose a random town in New Jersey to populate. Were they from some Indian state that got made fun of by all the other Indian states and didn't want to give up that feeling? Are the malls in India that bad? Did we accidentally keep numbering our parkway exits all the way to Mumbai? Stein wondered.
Re: [Goanet] What a shame!!!
Hi Desousa, I was eagerly waiting for your kind reply, thank you very much for your kind advice, BUT somewhere between the lines I can detect MALE CHAUVANISM in you. As far as my experience of Goa is concerned, I can still visualise Goa as a paradise on earth which is mutulated by some fickle minded goans like you. If you cannot do anything for Goa than I suggest you mind your own business. Have a nice day. Gina Ferns From: E DeSousa ejd...@att.net To: Gina Fernandes fg...@rocketmail.com Cc: estb. 1994! Goa's premiere mailing list goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Wed, 7 July, 2010 2:46:09 PM Subject: Re: What a shame!!! 1.Write something about Goa and your experiences about Goa (prefeably without caps). 2. This other cut and paste stuff can get you into shameful situation called p-l-a-g-i-a-r-i-s-m -if you try to pass someone else's writings as your own. [www.plagiarism.org/]. 3. Relax. You belong here. You act like a real Goencar. From: Gina Fernandes fg...@rocketmail.com To: E DeSousa ejd...@att.net Cc: estb. 1994! Goa's premiere mailing list goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 9:45:35 AM Subject: What a shame!!! Hi Desousa, For your kind information SHARING KNOWLEDGE with friends and family is just not CUT,COPY, PASTEANYWAYS YOU ARE A BUFFOON HOW TO MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND!!! Have a nice day. Gina Ferns From: E DeSousa ejd...@att.net To: Gina Fernandes fg...@rocketmail.com Sent: Tue, 6 July, 2010 4:34:54 PM Subject: Re: Self Appraisal we already have con menezes doing cut and paste.. of course you are in a different space. From: Gina Fernandes fg...@rocketmail.com To: estb. 1994! Goa's premiere mailing list goanet@lists.goanet.org Cc: EJ Dsousa ejd...@att.net Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 6:56:28 AM Subject: Self Appraisal Self Appraisal A little boy went into a drug store, reached for a soda carton and pulled it over to the telephone. He climbed onto the carton so that he could reach the buttons on the phone and proceeded to punch in seven digits (phone numbers). The store-owner observed and listened to the conversation: Boy: Lady, Can you give me the job of cutting your lawn? Woman: (at the other end of the phone line): I already have someone to cut my lawn. Boy: Lady, I will cut your lawn for half the price of the person who cuts your lawn now. Woman: I'm very satisfied with the person who is presently cutting my lawn. Boy: (with more perseverance) : Lady, I'll even sweep your house and your sidewalk, so on Sunday you will have the prettiest lawn in all of Palm beach , Florida. Woman: No, thank you. With a smile on his face, the little boy replaced the receiver. The store-owner, who was listening to all this, walked over to the boy. Son... I like your attitude; I like that positive spirit and would like to offer you a job. Boy: No thanks. Store Owner: But you were really pleading for one. No Sir, I was just checking my performance at the job I already have. I am the one who is working for that lady I was talking to! Have a nice day Gina Ferns
[Goanet] Swindon goan festival - character of Goans
Swindon Goan festival – Character of Goans Augusto wrote to Freddy reg. character of Goans: If such eloquent chaps like you could come to Goa to raise your voice along with other very eloquent chaps like Jose Colaco, Santosh Helekar, Mario Gouveia, Arwin Mesquita and so on and so forth, then maybe we could all do something to change the state of affairs that prevails over here. Instead NRI worthies like you love giving sermaos even when you know that it is your physical presence and not your words that is important. Hi Augusto, Are you suggesting that Goans who have gone abroad for bettering their lives and future are doing a crime if they voice their opinion on happenings in Goa? Do we only have to be physically present in Goa to show our love for Goa while one who is abroad does not love Goa. Maybe you have a point that physical presence is important but that does not mean one cant have his opinion if working/living abroad. After all Goa is our homeland and it is only out of compulsions for a better job/living that one is forced to look for better opportunities. If we were very off, then maybe we would not be compelled to go abroad. Just because a Goan is abroad does not make him less of a Goan than a Goan residing in Goa. Best wishes, Camilo Fernandes _ The latest in fashion and style in MSN Lifestyle http://lifestyle.in.msn.com/
[Goanet] Fw: Re: Goa urbanization
The following letter is from a well-known photography expert and an office colleague of mine. He was a great Goa lover and had close relatives in Margao. His recent vists have sparked off such a dislike for it, as is expressed in the following letter: --- Tue, 6/7/10, kishore jothady wrote: I have severed all emotional ties with Goa. Believe me, it was not easy. But bitter memories of my last visit have compelled me to do it. Uncouth, arrogant Goans, 'hate outside tourists' attitude have put me off. Mention of Goa no more kindle fond memories as before. Recent press reports of corrupt, shameless rapist politicos have only affirmed by opinion about my birthplace. Sad. K. B. Jothady APSI
[Goanet] Gulf Goans Must Give Back to Goa
Gulf Goans today face many difficulties i.e. declining living standards, localisation, reduced savings etc. Many contemplate leaving the Gulf soon. We must take strong interest on Goa’s Identity, mega-projects, corruption, mining, destruction, alarming outsider land sales, uncontrolled migrant influx etc. We must work with residents to save Goa for Goans; including future generations. Gulf Goans can help Goa significantly; if only we wake up immediately and think positively/constructively. Have we lost hope/belief in ourselves/Goa? Our home is in region (including China) where the economy is booming vs. others; education (all layers) medical are getting international respect. Rich nations are targeting our region as the future; there is strong demand for Goa by outsiders and strangely today, we have on a large scale “Entire Well off Gulf Goan families” migrating; abandoning Goa; selling off properties!! Are we really a short sighted community in general; lacking a real long term vision? How much wealth is really enough? Is so much migration really relevant today and does it not influence the erosion of Goa’s Identity? Are western societies really better off as a whole? Think about identity/value/family issues that our future generations will face; or is it just the materialistic things that interest? Let’s stop complaining looking only at all the negatives of Goa, which are just excuses for our reluctance to act or to justify today’s “debatable” migration. Surely, Goa also has positives vs. other societies. We should start from the positives, address the negatives and see how we can together make Goa, the place we want it to be. I believe we can do it, if we just put our heads together and look at what we can do and not, what we cannot do!! After all, there is no place like home. Arwin Mesquita, UAE. -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html 5. For the Love of Konkani: http://www.radiogoa.net/ 6. Goa's Identity Movement website: http://www.goamag.net/gim 7. Goa's Identity Movement group on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com//#/group.php?gid=193497031686 8. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/ -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html 5. For the Love of Konkani: http://www.radiogoa.net/ 6. Goa's Identity Movement website: http://www.goamag.net/gim 7. Goa's Identity Movement group on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com//#/group.php?gid=193497031686 8. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/
[Goanet] Talking photos: Civic Sense? What it is?
Talking photos: What is Civic Sense? Bankrupt Electricity department? Several joints and no guard loops - Shameless http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk27/4754713348/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk25/4733350720/sizes/l/ Parking sense http://www.flickr.com/photos/dirtypanjim4/4764864206/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/dirtypanjim4/4764866168/sizes/l/ Snakes on the payments? http://www.flickr.com/photos/dirtypanjim4/4752435602/ Welcome to Panjim KTC bus stand Where one cannot enter the KTC complex without soaking his/her feet Year after year, the problem remains same http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk25/4733346062/sizes/l/ Other water logging stories A View though greenery http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk25/4732701311/sizes/l/ Reflections – opp Old GMC http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk25/4732699905/sizes/l/ Extra: Eemergency Gram Sabha meeting – No Goans just migrants. I interrupted and hence speaker looks at me angrily http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk25/4741591769/sizes/l/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] K.I.F.F conducts a Memorable Finale: News Photos of J.P. D'Mello Memorial League
J.P. D'Mello KIFF League: Sponsored by Gulf Cable and Electrical Industries Co. K.I.F.F conducts a memorable finale Gasper Crasto for www.goa-world.com/ Kuwait: In one of the best finals conducted by the Kuwait Indian Football Federation (K.I.F.F) for the J.P. D’Mello Memorial KIFF League Trophy sponsored by Gulf Cable and Electrical Co., neither hot weather nor the humidity prevented a dramatic finish to the grand finale. United Friends Club (UFC) came from behind from a two-goal deficit to equalize (2-2) and clinch the title in the tie-breaker (4-2) against the young Curtorcares United. Curtorcares United’s star players Zico and Roland Fernandes put their team forward early into the match but UFC equalized both the goals before the breather through Rosario and Godwin Fernandes. UFC won the tie-breaker after a grueling goalless extra-time. Cajetan Godinho, one of the iconic players of Kuwait playing since the inception of the league, was among the shooters spot on target for the winners. The grand finale was played under floodlights on 2nd July 2010 at the Peace Friendship Kazma Stadium, Adeliya, Kuwait. Earlier, a group of young girls called Crazy Girls performed a dance to the beats of the World Cup theme. Later, the finalists were escorted on the ground by the school teams and children with balloons and the Special Guest His Excellency Shri Ajai Malhotra was introduced to the players by KIFF President Fidelis Fernandes. His Excellency Shri Ajai Malhotra, Ambassador of India was the Special Guest at the event. Speaking on the occasion Shri Malhotra said it was indeed commendable to have a full-fledged league running throughout the year outside India and applauded the KIFF for their marvelous efforts in promoting Indian football. Shri Malhotra was presented with a bouquet of flowers by Mrs. Merlyn Fernandes. Later Shri. Malhotra released a colorful 44 page souvenir handed over by Ms Karen Nelsa Fernandes to mark the event. Fidelis Fernandes, President of KIFF, in his speech was all praise for the tremendous support accorded by his KIFF colleagues while he thanked Gulf Cable and Electrical Company’s Bader Naser Al Kharafi, Chairman and Director, in a special way for fully sponsoring KIFF league finale and Asad Al Banwan Chairman of Kazma Sports club for providing the stadium which is one of the best in Kuwait. The final was officiated by FIFA Referee Franky Fernandes especially flown in for the finals by KIFF. He was assisted by Derick Gomindes, Jerry Mello and P.A. Tony. Earlier, Delhi Public School (DPS), Fahaheel beat Indian Central School, Abbasiya 3-1 in the finals of the Schools Invitation Football tournament. Crazy Girls dance group performing before the finals The finalists enter the field led by children Young escorts for the teams A section of the Peace Friendship stadium Schools team Indian Central School, Abhasiya KIFF President Fidelis Fernandes receiving a memento from H.E. Shri Ajai Malhotra A commemorative plaque handed over to Mr. Edwin Tavares of Gulf Cable Electrical Co. Mrs. Aretha Fernandes presenting a memento to KIFF Sports Secretary Bernard Fernandes Icon player Cajetan Godinho receiving an award from Vice-President Tony Correia NYC President Agnello A.S. Fernandes receiving an award from KIFF President UFC captain Mauricio receiving the J.P. D'Mello Trophy from KIFF President Mr. Fidelis The victorious UFC team Curtorcares United captain Roland Fernandes receiving the Runners-Up Trophy Edwin Tavares presenting a trophy to UFC player Curtorcares star player Zico receiving a trophy CRC Chinchinim President Bosco Leita receiving the Seasons Champions Trophy (Photos by Simon Dias - Professional Photographer) For the complete Photo Album click: http://gaspersworld.blogspot.com/ Prizes and Awards It was a feast of prizes, awards and mementos, and quality ones at that, presented during the half-time and at the presentation ceremony. There were trophies, certificates, commemorative plaques, medals, etc. The event would surely remain memorable to many youngsters as the prestige of these awards holds value and status of the awarder - the Kuwait Indian Football Federation (K.I.F.F). Past KIFF Presidents honored “History is written by the victors,” is a famous quote by British Prime Minister Winston Churchill. It was nice to see the past presidents of KIFF being honored with commemorative plaques at the hands of H.E. Shri Ajai Malhotra. The historical presidents were V.K. Vohra (1984~1989 1992~1998), Agnelo Fernandes (1989~1990), Anselmo Furtado (1998~1999), A.E. D’Souza (1999~2000), Inacio Faleiro (2000~2001), Victor Mesquita (2001~2002), Lawry M. Pinto (2002~2003), Tony Correia (2003~2004), Tony Dias (2004~2005), Manuel D’Costa (2005~2006), B.M. Viegas (2006~2009) and Fidelis Fernandes (2009~2010) Mementos to Club Presidents affiliated with KIFF Presidents of the 10 clubs
[Goanet] IFFI 2010
GULF-GOANS e-NEWSLETTER (since 1994) www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans/ www.goa-world.com http://www.goa-world.com/goa/credit%5Ccredit.htm Stay tuned to Gulf Goans e-Newsletter - everyday someone, somewhere learns a little. IFFI 2010 It was indeed interesting to note the suggestions of Dr. Nandakumar Kamat (through Gulf-Goans e-newsletter) regarding the 2010 International Film Festival of India (IFFI). Dr. Kamat suggests that this year's IFFI be organized on the theme “Colonialism and peoples’ struggles / movements across the world”. Arundhati Roy, suggests Dr. Kamat, should inaugurate the festival as well and deliver a speech on colonialism in the last 500 years. His suggestions are a refreshing change. In my opinion, the IFFI's organization over the years have done Goans and Goa little good. We have not been able to recognize the contributions done by Goan musicians to the Indian film industry (who were by the way discarded in the corner as mere arrangers) and neither have our unique culture been showcased to this country and the world. It is tragic that whatever opinions and perceptions that others have about Goa are entirely parroted from a tourism brochure which glorifies a hedonistic lifestyle, something entirely unknown to Goan culture. This year also marks the 500th anniversary of Portuguese conquest of Goa as well as the completion of 100 years since formal citizenship rights were extended and widely claimed by Goans. We (Goans) have expereinced colonialism differently than the rest of India hence it is imperative for us to understand our colonial experience and the struggles associated with it. True, this is the INTERNATIONAL film festival of INDIA. So I suggest that the emphasis be also given to COLONIALISM EXPERIENCED BY THE INDIAN SUB-CONTINENT along with Dr. Kamat's theme mentioned above. Sir, the people of Goa hope that this year's IFFI is a more meaningful event than the meaningless 'carnavals' organized in the past. Dale Menezes, Quepem. [This letter is published in today's Gomantak Times in the Letters to the Editor column] Ref: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gulf-goans/message/30287 A Post-Colonial agenda for IFFI 2010: Pointing the significance and relevance of 2010 to a peoples' history http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gulf-goans/message/30287 A couple of days ago, Dr. Nandkumar Kamat, from the Goa University, made a rather interesting suggestion via email to the Chief Minister of Goa. Rather than be an occasion to mindlessly spend huge amounts of state revenue, he has suggested that the International Film Festival of India (IFFI), now held annually in Goa, be themed for the year 2010 to commemorate “Colonialism and peoples' struggles / movements across the worldâ€. To this already interesting proposition he adds one more laudable suggestion; rather than invite an actor or actress from Bombay, who as he says leave no ideas behind, why not invite Arundhati Roy to inaugurate the festival? Roy, he suggests, could also be asked to speak on “Colonialism down 500 years a topic which would be suitable considering the completion of 500 years of Goa's conquest by Afonso de Albuquerque, on 25th November 2010 and foundation of colonial rule in Asia. This is perhaps one of the more incredible suggestions that have been made regarding the IFFI and perhaps in the intellectual and cultural life of the State. Subsequent to his email to the Chief Minister Dr. Kamat has requested public support for this suggestion and it is incumbent on all of us to support this suggestion and ensure that it gets converted from an idea to solid fact. This column today, seeks to be not just a public show of support for Dr. Kamat's stellar suggestion, but a request to all those who may read this column to send emails of support to the Chief Minister's email id and ensure that the proposal is converted to reality. There are a number of reasons why this proposal must be supported wholeheartedly. The organization of recent IFFI has been disappointing to say the least. Rather than an occasion to reflect on the messages that film can and do generate, the focus seems to be on creating a hedonistic bubble where movie stars can be feted. Where a number of Goans believed that the arrival of IFFI would contribute to the intellectual and cultural life of ordinary Goans, we have been disappointed to see that rather that critical world cinema, it is Hindi potboilers that have been dished out to the Goan public as a part of the festival. To theme the IFFI in the manner Dr. Kamat suggests would perhaps reorient the Entertainment Society of Goa (ESG), the local organizers of the IFFI to ensure it contributes to an enhancing the referents for local cultural articulations. But Dr. Kamat's suggestion has value beyond the limited scope of a renewal of the possibilities of the IFFI. Some weeks ago a Coimbra based researcher
Re: [Goanet] ON MICKY'S CONDUCT
Aires Rodrigues wrote: Mickky Pacheco ... is accused of a very serious crime. The Court of law is the only place where he should PROVE HIS INNOCENCE. COMMENT: Has the Inquisition returned to Goa, or is High-Risk law in situ? Is India one of those countries in which an accused (of causing the death of an individual) is expected to PROVE HIS INNOCENCE in court? As an aside, I suppose it is OK that High Risk should hype up cases and Try them by media. Better chance for an out of court settlement and 'compensation .dropping the ones which can be conveniently dropped suddenly. How did Aires become High Risk? Ah turmeric! I know you have some medicinal properties, BUT ..! jc
[Goanet] Poems to revere Bakibab Borkar: ‘Ga datha Tinsana’ at Black Box, Kala Academy(J uly 8, 4.30 pm)
In memory of the Birth Centenary of Balakrishna Bhagwant Borkar, also known as Bakibab Borkar, the B B Birth Centenary Committee has organized a year long celebration. The year was inaugurated on November 30, 2009 and will continue till November 30, 2010. ‘Gadatha Tinsana’, an event which will feature reading of Bakibab’s poems is organized by the Department of Art and Culture and the B B Borkar Centenary Committee in association with Institute of Menezes Braganza and Kala Academy on his birth centenary, July 8, 2010 at 4.30 pm at Kala Academy. “As the entire year is dedicated to Goa’s well known poet Bakibab Borkar, ‘Gadad Tinsana’ will take place at the Black Box, Kala Academy. The function will have participation from noted poets like Pundalik Naik, Ramesh Veluskar, Dr Ajay Vaidya and Vishnu Surya Wagh with each one reading Bakibab’s poems”, says Ashok Parab, Assistant Director, Directorate of Art and Culture. Bakibab Borkar was born in 1910. He was a renowned poet in Marathi and Konkani and was honoured in 1967 by Government of India with Padmashri to recognse his service in the field of Literature and Education. A legendary poet from Goa, Bakibab Borkar started writing poems at an early age and was also an important figure in the freedom struggle for Goa. He also was a prose writer though his poems are more famous. Courtesy: Herald Features, July 7, 2010
Re: [Goanet] Fwd: Goa in the gutter ( addendum) In defense of AdminNoronha
This is a very interesting debate -- and definitely worth every bit of it, even if tinged with some amount of allegation and innuendo. For the first time, the backroom wheeling and dealing of the political world is coming out into the open (and becoming part of the public record, as it were). Unlike what we would like to believe, these games happen at all levels. The most interesting change-around in recent years is that the once marginal campaigners are today setting the agenda in a big way. Is this empowerment for them? Are they being made use of as someone else's catspaw? Does it represent a genuine coming of age of campaigners (whom Rane could once dismiss as seven people protesting against tourism at the Pato bridge)? Or is the unaware populace simply being taken for a ride, yet once more? Indeed, there are a lot of issues behind the issues. So much agenda-setting happens without the vast majority even having a hint. Issues don't reach the forefront for nothing. If you take a look at the newspapers (most of which have their preferred politicians-with-feet-of-clay... and at least one of which is an unofficial mouthpiece of a party) it becomes very clear who is behind what issue, when it is going to be propped up, how this coincides with electoral interests, why certain politicians are targeted (and not others), and so on. How does a Babush Monserrate become a hero who vanquished the dubious Somnath Zuwarkar, to someone whose name gets tied to worse than Jalgaon type sex scandals, to being someone on the right side of the political fence again (no questions asked) and a dubious politician who needs to be tracked all the way to places like Swindon once again? I would not bother too much with the I-said, you-said nitty gritties in the debates. Going beyond personalised insults too, I think what is important is to focus on the more significant issues emerging here. Clearly: Goa has a great deal more of backroom politics than meets the eye. We'll see more of these as elections near, or as political ambitions soar. FN
[Goanet] Goa Sudharop: World Cup sweepstake entries....Update
And then there were two one country will win the World Cup for the first time this Sunday. Good luck and thanks to all who participated, including Gabe who organized the raffle. Kurt Almeida is guaranteed to win $150. First prize winners win $100 each, runner-up wins $50 each. NETHERLANDS - Kurt Almeida; Maju/Glen Furtado SPAIN - Loreen/Oscar d'Silva; Kurt Almeida George
[Goanet] Deadliest Sweetener
Deadliest sweetener hoodwinks and poisons millions of victims with the blessings of the U.S. Federal Government. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mercola/americas-deadliest-sweete_b_630549.html Regards, GL
Re: [Goanet] Time mag apologizes for article on Indian-Americans
Eugene, Are you suggesting Goanet also apologises for the much scorn we continually pour on the ghantis? FN PS: The Edison piece hardly struck me as humour. It just sounded like the new trend in a much globalised world -- everyone feels they are being swamped in their own backyard. Including Goan expats to the Western hemisphere who have the loudest voices on this (specially when it comes to the home they have left, as Augusto points out). In India itself, the situation would have been comical if its consequences were not so tragic and the cause of so much bitterness (as seen in the Nellie massacre, for instance) -- almost every second state (if not every one) believes it is being swamped by The Other! My Tamil friend was talking about labour from Bengal and Bihar invading his State. Karnataka's capital of Bangalore believes (maybe numerically) that it has been run over by Tamilians. Marathis are battling Kannadigas in and around Belgaum, and parts of Hubli-Dharwad. The Shiv Sena's paranoia in Mumbai is only too well known. Jharkhand and Chhattisgarh were formed out of the feeling that they were being colonised by non-tribals. Telangana is a similar case. Delhi has its simmering suspicions, particularly about Punjabi dominance and post-Partition migration. The entire North East has a grouse over these issues. Tripura could be seen as being ruled by Bengalis and the CPI(M) there has more to do with regionalism and ethnicity rather than class. And the list continues Frederick Noronha +91-9822122436 +91-832-2409490 On 7 July 2010 23:23, Eugene Correia gene_corr...@yahoo.com wrote: Time magazine apologises for article on Indian-Americans By Arun Kumar Washington, July 7 (IANS) Time magazine has apologised to Indian Americans after some of them took umbrage at a humour piece, which they said has racist overtones, about the community in Edison, New Jersey, where every fifth resident is a native of India.
[Goanet] Meditations to Clear Your Mind and Body - iVillage
Meditations to clear your Mind Body 'ivillage' Con http://www.ivillage.com/meditations-clear-your-mind-and-body/4-a-121799?nlcid=ch|07-07-2010|
[Goanet] Goa news for July 8, 2010
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa court rejects Pacheco's bail plea - NDTV.com TV.comPTI, Updated: [July 07, 2010] 13:45 IST Panaji: A local court on Wednesday rejected the bail plea of former Goa Tourism Minister Fransisco Mickky Pacheco in ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNES_Filo2vRyp2IDXuy64SvrNhy1Aurl=http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/goa-court-rejects-pachecos-bail-plea-36110 *** BioWare Mythic Takes Over Warhammer Online Publishing In Europe - Gamasutra o-play MMOs, has managed Warhammer Online in Europe since its worldwide launch in September 2008. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFRQ-rtXG4GrwsvGWSAQAkaMu38rAurl=http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/29310/BioWare_Mythic_Takes_Over_Warhammer_Online_Publishing_In_Europe.php *** Bandh near total success in Goa: BJP - Sify eels-Bharat-bandh-heat/38536.htmlGoa feels Bharat bandh heat http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGYCMxTB-xrCCGeR9hKGgnYy59jBwurl=http://sify.com/news/bandh-near-total-success-in-goa-bjp-news-national-khft4cffiaj.html *** Goa Politician Charged With Raping Russian - The Moscow Times tar hotel, Indian media ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFpCPJL6KG7sMPpPwdWbl0pkniX_Qurl=http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/goa-politician-charged-with-raping-russian/409853.html *** Police free to arrest Pacheco - Hindustan Times ubGCcrhAO5amnzpDtJ8JUv3w http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHPH2G1oSrneJCbfFvX6KqTYqQq6gurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Police-free-to-arrest-Pacheco/Article1-568764.aspx *** Probe links of Goa home minister's son to drug trade: BJP - Sify JP-demands-ministers-ouster/articleshow/6133110.cmsBJP demands minister's ouster http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFlV0INEj8gA_lFyERABOhjcNF_sgurl=http://sify.com/news/probe-links-of-goa-home-minister-s-son-to-drug-trade-bjp-news-national-khhsOchajaf.html *** Now Talk More With New Vodafone Campus Pack In Mumbai Goa - TelecomTalk aunched its modified CAMPUS PACK for subscribers in Maharashtra Goa Circle. ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNG1i91Uub1ZixL6_wr5H7ObLQGNaQurl=http://telecomtalk.info/now-talk-more-with-new-vodafone-campus-pack-mumbai-goa/32962/ *** Goan handicrafts get an e-portal - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: From terracotta lampshades to necklaces made from shells and beads, about 350 Goan handicrafts are now being exhibited online with 100 on sale. ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGed0kuz3hrKN8bH2ZN007ps-wSZgurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goan-handicrafts-get-an-e-portal/articleshow/6136528.cms *** SDM hauls up Goa police officer for staging raid - Sify ivisional magistrate has hauled up a police inspector and asked him to release 29 women who were 'rescued' last week from an alleged prostitution ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGIl3aoCOrZgGIimaWafdJW4VwGxgurl=http://sify.com/news/sdm-hauls-up-goa-police-officer-for-staging-raid-news-national-khhpEdfjijc.html *** Days after 3G launch, BSNL users protest snags in basic 2G service - Times of India yped entry of 3G mobile services to Goa has resulted in sheer pain for BSNL subscribers, who are frustrated at having lost even the basic ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFO_nIdE3oBRUR-xGf7tJ3bLJyLzwurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/City/Goa/-Days-after-3G-launch-BSNL-users-protest-snags-in-basic-2G-service/articleshow/6133112.cms Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Poems to revere Bakibab Borkar: 'Gadatha Tinsana' at Black Box, Kala Academy(July 8, 4.30 pm)
Hi Sandeep, Does one know whether BBs works in both languages be published/available in book form etc. Best. venantius j pinto Message: 5 Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 02:35:44 +0530 From: Sandeep Heble sandeephe...@gmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Poems to revere Bakibab Borkar: ?Gadatha Tinsana? at Black Box, Kala Academy(July 8, 4.30 pm) (DEL) Bakibab Borkar was born in 1910. He was a renowned poet in Marathi and Konkani and was honoured in 1967 by Government of India with Padmashri to recognse his service in the field of Literature and Education. A legendary poet from Goa, Bakibab Borkar started writing poems at an early age and was also an important figure in the freedom struggle for Goa. He also was a prose writer though his poems are more famous. Courtesy: Herald Features, July 7, 2010 End of Goanet Digest, Vol 5, Issue 699 **
Re: [Goanet] Discovery in Bambolim
Compliments to your discovery Dr. Kamat. Your topic interested me, because I am in the midst of reading an article entitled The Way We Were which discusses prehistoric art. For what it is worth, and to be helpful, the dates in the article I am reading are as follows. Anthropologists have found Homo sapiens sapiens - Cro-Magnon skeletons in South Africa dating to 50,000 ago and in North Africa dating to 40,000 BCE. Cro-Magnons made their first appearance in Europe 35,000 BCE. Prior to that, the article reports humans outside Africa was Homo sapiens neanderthal. I would appreciate if you could enlighten me on the name of the sub-species of humans entered Goa 60-80,000 years BCE. As you well know, the 10,000-year Ice Age ended about 7,000 years ago. Your Australian expert may be an authority on Rock Art. But the experts on Ice Age Art are scattered across Europe, specially in France (like the Museum of National Antiquities outside Paris). You may like to exchange notes and pictures of the art (and details on the dwelling sites) with the European experts who have been working on Ice Age art. Hope the information is useful. Regards, GL -- On Sat, 7/3/10, Dr.Nandkumar Kamat wrote: On June 25 th I made an important discovery on Bambolim plateau which pushes back the history of human colonization of Tiswadi island to 1 BCE (humans entered Goa 60-8 years BCE) It was the discovery of five groups of linear stone cupules...vestiges of prehistoric rock art, which I have dated to mesolithic-early neolithic period. these site was known to have a microlithic industry. I have already sent the pictures and details to IFRAO chairman Australian rock art researcher Dr. Robert Brednarick and awaiting his comments
Re: [Goanet] From CSF_Goa Graves Vandalized_Disturbing FIR conjecture
I recently took issue with CSF, concerning a post where links of Facebook pages which presumably hurt sentiments as in F*** X, or Y or Z (BVM, Jesus, Mohammad (PBUH), etc). My point was that there was no need to list the urls. It also reminded me of pastors suggesting to people to take a walk through red-light districts, or peek into sex stores. So they can really be anointed by the proof in the pudding?! I personally believe it was crass to first of all list the urls. Why? So already weak-minded and weak-willed Christians have even more reason to feel shattered. On another note it is pathetic when someone puts you on a list without asking, or for that matter designs an email that can only help people into taking on a siege mentality. In any case I was not taken off the list and the response I receive were not addressed in a round about way. That people wanted this issue taken up with Facebook, and stuff like that. Anyway, moving on-- beyond a point I can control only so many demons outside of myself. But the following is something that caught my attention. See my comments below, ans they have nothing to do with CSF. + *Goa Graves Vandalized* Unidentified people have vandalized two graves in a Catholic cemetery at Goa Velha, prompting the police to register a case of hurting religious feelings. Father Raul Colaco, parish priest of St Andrew’s church at Goa Velha, complained police that someone had dug up two graves in the cemetery and that a cross had been removed. Police suspect that the incident happened at night. A person working to clean the found the place intact when he left in the evening, but found the graves dug up in the morning. The graves were of people buried buried on June 27 and June 29. Police suspect thieves dug them up thinking that the dead would be adorned with gold and jewellery. It is a custom when bodies are taken for funeral rites, the gold worn by them is not removed. “However, before burying, the ornaments are removed,” police said. “We have filed an FIR for hurting religious sentiments. Investigations are in progress,” a police official said. ++ The following FIR should not have been about hurting religious feelings. PERIOD. Considering that people make pathetic correlations with any given information, this FIR does not bode well emotionally. It will create hatred on the part of Christians. Its is baseless to be emphatic, as in the first part of what that the police official says. venantius j pinto
[Goanet] Now, is it Ravi's turn?
For over a year now there have been clues of how the Digu gang has systematically embarked upon a path to eliminate any politician that is inconvenient to their undisputed plunder. Four to five politicians, Micky, Daya, Ravi, Babush and Churchill, have been singled out for deputation to the firing line and what is only required is an opportune moment to strike. One wrong move and they had it. Could anyone imagine Daya being dropped like a hot potato. With Micky trapped in the rat trap, it now seems the turn of Ravi Naik to be administered a dose of psychotropic drugs. Just see the news about cops investigating journos on Roy's conncection in the drug scam. BJP has also started making the right noises against Ravi. I will not be surprised if in a couple of days Aires also joins in with his heroics. Ravi remains a thorn for the privileged class of politicians from Ponda. Needless to speak of the Goan janata, it is kept in an intoxicated state for 365 days of the year. It has remained so for the last 49 years. Keeping aside the character and political dadagiri of the politicians lined up for elimination and looking at the larger picture, with all the heroics and noises of some forces it is not actually cleansing of politics that is taking place but a consolidation of power by a privileged class by eliminating the nuisance of the lower class political leaders. -Soter
Re: [Goanet] Fwd: Goa in the gutter ( addendum)
To Goanet - Frederick Noronha wrote: This is a very interesting debate -- and definitely worth every bit of it, even if tinged with some amount of allegation and innuendo. What are you smoking? There is no debate, only an account of the hucksterism of Goa Susu-raj. As regards allegation and innuendo, you should know since you are the expert in both these domains. You are the prince of slime. r
[Goanet] Goa in the gutter (addendum) In defense of admin Noronha
This interesting post from Floriano Lobo came to my inbox at 1.38 this morning. As per my usual habit, I read my e-mails just before leaving for work at 8am. I have just got back from work and I read another post from florian claiming that I am taking a long time to reply. My reply follows his post. Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 23:28:55 +0530 From: floriano floriano.l...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Fwd: Goa in the gutter ( addendum) In defense of AdminNoronha Message-ID: ec1d79407ad94743bed7e3cdbb989...@home Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Dear Anil-bab, Greetings from this end. Thank you for the treat. And you don't have to say 'you are welcome'. I understand. Now, let us cut the CRAP. [the phraze cutting the crap is, I hope, not considered by your high society as 'abusive'] Did you give me (hand over ) the Rs. 10,000/-??? Pls answer this question, sincerely. In case you have not. Let me have a crystal clear 'apology' from you please. We shall deal with rest of the 'crap' that I am reading, later. Response: Floriano, Your kingdom is sewer-raj and therefore it does not surprise me that you see c... everywhere. For your information, I am a colorectal surgeon with twenty five years' experience in this area. I can deal with it, believe you me. You pose an interesting question. You have obviously mastered this technique and therefore you know the answer to your question i.e. no, I did not hand over the money to you personally. The questions you should ask your self are these: a. Do you wish to deny that you received Rs 1 from the intermediary who made the request on your behalf and took the money to you? b. If you keep your mobile phone bills, how about publishing your bill for December 07. You should certainly look at it to see the phone calls you made to my mobile number in goa to thank me for my 'help'. This issue has certainly touched a raw nerve. Let us see the accounts of your great party since you claim you lead a virtuous party. Incidentally, I really enjoyed Gabe's post of earlier today. He quite rightly commented on JC's post with a marvellous line that started with On a serious note. I have never read a better put down to his baby write ups. Gabe then went on to explain how the money and time he spent on an organisation was a waste. With the angry response that has come from Floriano, I have a lot of sympathy for Gabe. Gratitude does not come easy to some people. Look how this upright leader now reacts to the simple statement of facts. Now, let us see what you have to say. Do not forget to include the word 'saffron' or special JC contribution to english language turmeric'. any tinge of yellow or orange will do. Anil Desai
[Goanet] Drugs: Goa minister, son exposed by Swedish model
http://calamities.gaeatimes.com/2010/07/07/probe-links-of-goa-home-ministers-son-to-drug-trade-bjp-34425/ Thanks Goans for electing such people to rule Goa.
Re: [Goanet] Invitation
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[Goanet] The Character of Goans (formerly Re: Swindon Goan Festival)
In response to: Message: 10 Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 16:23:23 +0530 From: augusto pinto pinto...@gmail.com To: goanet goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] On The Character of Goans (formerly Re: Swindon Goan Festival) Dear Augusto, My, my, my how dids't I upset up you oh prince of Moira ? Oh yes, my stupid question, let me explain: First and foremost, this stupid question was directed at the Diaspora Goans, now here is another stupid question, isn't it stupid of Diaspora Goans to invite corrupt, selfish politicians all the way from Goa ? Shouldn't we show our solidarity with the Goan activists who are putting their very lives at stake in their fight to save Goa ? Or is this too a stupid question ? We, some times have to counter stupid actions with stupid questions to drive home a point, somzoloi mure Pinto bab ? In this post and most of my others posts, since I have been active on the net, I always blame us Goans or we Goans (me included) and not you Goans, because even though I may be a NRG but I am still a citizen of India, I pay my taxes, I send my remunerations to Goa and I have not surrendered my Indian passport, even if I had the chance to settle overseas, I would not because of the simple reason, I like being a Goan and more often then not, I have exercised my right to vote. Just because I am working outside Goa, does not make me less Goan than thou. Going back to the stupid question, if you have read my previous articles, I have explained and made it very clear as to why we the NRI worthies should not entertain our corrupt politicians, it is not that we don't know why people keep on electing the same corrupt people, in most of my post I have mentioned umpteen times that we should not fall prey to our conniving corrupt politicians, corrupt beget corruption. I have personally not gone and spread my hands before any politicians in my entire life, for my own personal wellbeing, yes, for the sake of the village and our community, I have approached politicians but never ever entertained corruption, that's why I have never been scared to call a spade a spade, without any fear of the consequences, be it Dilkush Dessai, Vasu Pai Gaunkar, Churchill, or Kavlekar for that matter. I owe these pigs nothing. As for NRI worthies as you called us, talking the talk and not walking the walk, you have jumped the gun or as it is said jumped to conclusions, though it does not perturb me a bit as to what you think of the so called NRI worthies like me or the others. I may have not done, what a NRI worthy like Dr. Anil Dessai has done, but I know what I have contributed to my village and my community, for your information there are two type of workers, those that work to seek adulation, and those that do because they feel, that as a member of the village and community it is their duty. Though I may be just a practicing Catholic but I believe in the biblical policy of let not your left hand know what your right hand is doing there are times when even my wife of more than twenty five years does not know what, how or when I do my little for the village and our community and I am sure there are other NRI worthies doing the same. I do not like to parade my good deeds, but I will tell you about a very small thing that we do and how it helps the activists in Goa, In our village one NRI worthy has started a fund, to use for expenses, in our fight against miners and for supporting other causes dear to Goa. Even though most of us NRI worthies from our place are struggling to make ends meet, we have contributed generously. It is not just that we have created a fund and left the responsibility to the villagers, we the NRI worthies keep in constant touch with our parish priest and our people, guiding, advising them and giving them moral support and we also participate actively when ever we are home. At most of the rallies in south central Goa, you will find minimum a bus load of our people supporting the movement, if you want you can get this confirmed through Seby the Naxalite as our corrupt politicians call him. When we are on holiday for a month, we hardly get any time to enjoy those holidays because of the present situation, we have to run from pillar to post to support our people and we do it with a smiling face. Regarding Arwin Mesquita, I have known him for almost two years and that too, through goanet and since then we meet very often to share our like minded thoughts, he is one person who could get entry into any country of his choice but has not done so because he loves Goa and one can see the passion he has for Goa in his writings, he just doesn't right, you can asks the village activists in south Goa how active he is while in Goa and how he keeps in touch with all of them and supports when he is out of Goa. I will not elaborate on his works as he is like me, doing things not for glory. I have only disclosed this aspect, to bring to the notice of the NRI worthies who think
[Goanet] Ghatis laud development works in Panjim
To Goanet - Galactic Goa News Agency Panjim, July 8: The developmental works underway in Panjim have drawn effusive praise from ghatis all over Goa. Significant upgrades to Azad Maidan and Panjim Municipal Garden are in progress. GGNA reporter and former Miss Goa contestant Asmita Dularkar spoke to Ajmer Singh Lathi, President of the Federation of Goan Ghatis (FOGG). Madam, 20 years ago when I first came to Panjim, I felt uncomfortable because it was so clean and quiet. Now Panjim has become dirty, smelly, and noisy and I feel completely at home. Now it reminds me a lot about my own home in Buttholepur, Bihar, and I don't feel homesick anymore. Goans are very hospitable people and have given us total freedom, said Mr. Lathi. Murli Manohar Banwari of Mootranagar, UP, was all praise for the new look Azad Maidan is acquiring. Earlier, we had zero privacy. 2 years ago, a Goan photographer with telephoto lens took a shot of me doing pee-pee on the Martyr's Memorial. It was a complete violation of my right to pee in private. Now with this new fence, I and my fellow ghatis can finally do regular abhishek on the Martyr's Memorial without any interference from Peeping Toms, Mr Banwari explained. Madam, we are now the Peeing Toms, he added in his characteristic Mootranagar accent. Panjim Municipal Garden is also receiving a major facelift. For decades the garden had been seamlessly integrated into the city without any fence or barricade, but that is about to be cured by the CCP. A new fence is being erected so that ghatis loitering inside can have an additional layer of privacy and quiet. Ghati loiterer P.T. Qadir who hangs around the Municipal Garden and uses it as his personal Bed Breakfast, expressed delight at the new works which entail fencing off the garden and re-laying the lawn. Every morning I had to walk 100 metres to the river to do my thing, said Mr Qadir. When this new project is complete, it will be like an attached bath. I can then take a satisfying crap right here on this lush lawn. Just thinking about it now fills me with peace and gives me a bowel movement, said a joyous Mr Qadir. But not everyone was pleased. Ghati Rabdi Kumari Dhaulpuri and her companions struck a discordant note. We want a separate section for ladies in the garden. How would Mayor Po feel if she had to pee next to the men? they complained. Mayor Po dismissed the complaints and said that on India's Independence Day she would personally demonstrate how ladies and men can co-pee in harmony. GGNA News File Report
