[Goanet] BOOKLET TO BE RELEASED ON GOA’S ADVOCATE GENERAL SUBODH KANTAK’S MISDEEDS
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- A booklet “Misdeeds of Advocate General Subodh Kantak” will be released on December 19th the 50th Anniversary of Goa’s Liberation. The booklet would be a documented account with all evidence on the glaring misdeeds and irregularities committed by Advocate General of Goa Mr. Subodh Kantak. Chief Minister Digambar Kamat would be requested that in public interest the booklet be printed at the Government printing press and be distributed by the Department of Information through all the Municipalities and Panchayats to every house free of cost. The booklet would also be available on a website so that it could be accessed and read by Goans living across India and abroad. The Subodh Kantak saga is a very dark chapter in the 50 years of Goa’s Liberation. One of the few achievements of the Digambar Kamat government was that it has been able to shield and protect the illegalities committed by India’s highest paid Advocate General Mr. Subodh Kantak. Inspite of Chief Minister Digambar Kamat’s repeated assurances that the Advocate General’s fees would be slashed and brought on par with the AG’s of Maharastra, Karnataka and Gujarat, the Chief Minister had taken no action and allowed Mr. Subodh Kantak to recklessly bleed the State exchequer making him India’s highest paid Advocate General. Due to the unsound politically tainted legal advice being given to the Government by the Advocate General, almost every decision taken by this government has landed up being challenged before the Courts with most of them already quashed and set aside. Mr. Subodh Kantak instead of upholding the dignity and self-respect of the high constitutional post has tarnished the image and sanctity of the post by not maintaining the required high standards of professional ethics and decorum. Aires Rodrigues T1 - B30, Ribandar Retreat Ribandar - Goa - 403006 Mobile: 9822684372
[Goanet] Gonzaga - Hanv Saiba Poltoddi Vetam - YouTube
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[Goanet] Interesting podcast discussing the work of Amitav Ghosh http://kuow.org/program.php?id=24801
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Amitav Ghosh is a Bengali Indian author. He lives in New York for part of the year and in India when he's writing. In order to write his newest book, River Of Smoke, he taught himself Cantonese and he learned how to sail. He joins us on Weekday to discuss River of Smoke and to explain his writing process. Amitav Ghosh is a Bengali Indian author and a distinguished professor of comparative literature at Queens College, City University of New York. His books include The Glass Palace, Sea of Poppies and The Imam and the Indian. In 2007, the Indian government awarded him Padma Shri, and in 2009, he was elected a fellow of the Royal Society of Literature. His newest book is River of Smoke, the second novel in his Ibis trilogy. http://kuow.org/program.php?id=24801 FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 Doha, Qatar
[Goanet] Song for the day
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Pavarotti Barry Whitehttp://www.youtube.com/artist/Barry_White?feature=watch_video_title - My first, my last, my everything http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHCcM_uV-r8feature=related -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] Fw: Gonzaga Coutinho - Video promotions . Shangrila Goa
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Aum saiba poltori vetam...an interesting version Goa Songs in concanim performed by Portuguese artists. Published in several countries by ARC MUSIC - London and New York http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC2O1RnnQ0gfeature=youtu.be
[Goanet] eve teasing need legal protections
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- EVE TEASING COSEQUENCES It is very said and tragic that two younsters lost their lives in the prime of their youth They were out at Amboli Restaurant at Andheri with their girl companions Some boys starting teasing their girls and naturally the boys objected to this behaviour. in defence Some verbal altercations followed Taking it seriously the eve teasers returned with dangerous weapons and brutally atacked them MR Keenan and Reuben lost their lives in defending their companions, There were crowds who were mere spectators to this sordid drama of brutality and not one raised their voice or acted to support them. The argument that they wree armed with dangerous weapons is to show lack of concern for the others to avoid involvelment and selfish interests. The waiters and hotel staff also remained non commital and allowed the perpatros to attack mercilessly to death the two youngsters There is no deterent law against eve teasing It happens in many a lawless states in the North like Bihar etc Mumbai by and large has been free of this scourge, but times appear to be changing The police nabbed them immediately, but the action is awaited, so that such incidents are not repeated People must be free to move in the city without such personal, verbal attacks on their dignity and freedom There is an outcry all over India and rightly so and they have voluntered to help in any way they can. we need to force the law makers to seriously bring out regulations and not be satisfied with mere asuarances The symphaties are with the parents, who have displayed utmost restraint in the midst of unbearable grief. They seek justice and not revenge in the midst of personal loss and tragedy and all they want is legal actions to prevent such incidents in the near future The agony and trauma to the parents, family, relatives and friends can be thus avoided While the memories of such ghastly incidents are short lived and life continues as normal for the rest of us What is awaited and expectedwith hope is the legal actions against these misguided youths, exemplary punishment and without any politcal interference. This incident should open up mdebate on stringent laws on eve teasing so that our girls and sisiters are protected against this nuisance In the mean time the precious lives of Keenan and Reuben must usher in law that will serve as deterent all over India Nelson Lopes chinchinim.
[Goanet] Goa news for November 4, 2011
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Let CBI investigate illegal mining in Goa, demand BJP - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: A BJP delegation on Thursday met President Pratibha Patil and submitted a memorandum demanding that the illegal mining scam in Goa be handed over to a special investigating team or the central bureau of investigation (CBI). ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNH6RhFy2JWKh4t_nAexpB_nS937Pwurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Let-CBI-investigate-illegal-mining-in-Goa-demand-BJP/articleshow/10600555.cms *** Sesa Goa to acquire Videocon's Goa Energy for Rs 53.72 cr - Economic Times ron-ore-and-mining-summit-from-nov-17/886280.htmlGlobal iron ore and mining summit from Nov 17 http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFiRS1NvLs0SVWszpPMmd_QS6XJuwurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-company/corporate-announcement/sesa-goa-to-acquire-videocons-goa-energy-for-rs-53-72-cr/articleshow/10597153.cms *** Two Goa cops suspended for extorting money - Zee News I_G8wKlUjilA http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFCe-57AM_u8XfkvTP1I2AwJ8H_7Qurl=http://zeenews.india.com/news/goa/two-goa-cops-suspended-for-extorting-money_739601.html *** Reporter delves into world of Mumbai dance bars - Reuters utersFaleiro, originally from Goa, has lived and worked in India for most of her life. In a culture where the middle class is our new obsession, she was frustrated by the lack of reportage and representation in the public sphere for marginalized groups. ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHa8bartsJWdXncSNNOQGJFevnsUAurl=http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/03/us-books-mumbai-dancebars-idUSTRE7A23NG2003 *** 'MLAs to decide on midnight assembly: GPCC - Times of India p-OWh6_-2agKfLYF8YSQ http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNE-MQ-b5CcrW8971BnEuLcSTqfg7wurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/MLAs-to-decide-on-midnight-assembly-GPCC/articleshow/10600848.cms *** 'Sagar Kavach' begins, causes traffic jams - Times of India mes of IndiaPeople who were already tired of waiting in long queues at petrol pumps, due to fuel shortage in the state, cried hoarse during peak office hours on Thursday morning as they were stuck in traffic jams at several places in North Goa due to the ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHpoaMy6HCbfRpw8Zs9RRXEizWErAurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Sagar-Kavach-begins-causes-traffic-jams/articleshow/10600767.cms *** Maharashtra post 286/4 as Goa bowlers toil - Times of India mes of IndiaEarlier Goa won the toss and put the opposition in. The decision seemed justified when Goan bowlers made early inroads into the Maharashtra batting, dismissing both the openers to reduce the visitors to 24 for two in the 10th over of the day. ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGJnIYGv2bRr3AZ-3wAJsz5Js5FQAurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/domestic-cricket/ranji-trophy/Maharashtra-post-286/4-as-Goa-bowlers-toil/articleshow/10598389.cms *** GSPCB will hear48 lessees next week - Times of India brI0viGMand more » http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGHMnsTnnab5Lg7YMi3hswn6JZ-gQurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/GSPCB-will-hear48-lessees-next-week/articleshow/10600873.cms *** Goa has fuel stocks to last one month: Civil supplies director - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: With the present stocks of petrol and diesel and more stocks coming in by November 5, Goa will have sufficient quota to last at least one month, director civil supplies, Arun Desai told TOI on Wednesday. After holding a meeting with ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNG8hPLH-3RczaUj1_84LdGNCXHvZwurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-has-fuel-stocks-to-last-one-month-Civil-supplies-director/articleshow/10600528.cms *** 'No half-ticket for students gainfully employed' - Times of India levn1VExMand more » http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEA0LoyFE6IXEdNzGlAdcW3PnEdqAurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/No-half-ticket-for-students-gainfully-employed/articleshow/10600856.cms Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] [Photo Blog by Rajan Parrikar] The Vetals of Goa: Amona
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Photo Blog by Rajan Parrikar has posted a new item, 'The Vetals of Goa: Amona' This is the launch of a new series - the photographic documentation of the ancient Vetal idols of Goa. A few images have been included in earlier posts; those and the ones to follow are now consolidated at this link. In the village of Amona, the Vetal idol is fitted with a gleaming shell and [...] You may view the latest post at http://www.parrikar.com/blog/2011/11/03/the-vetals-of-goa-amona/ Best regards, Rajan P. Parrikar parri...@yahoo.com
[Goanet] Extradition of Julian Assange
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- EXtradition of Julian Assange The Judiciary in England has turned down his request not to be extradited to Sweeden He has limited time to appeal His friends are apprehensive that this my facilitate his extradition to USA becuase of warm and friendly re;lations between two countries It is adduced that sweeden is not a court of Kangroo justice. It is argued that Julian defend himself against the muck of rape and molestation He has no alternative to face boldly and legally defend himself in Sweeden. It is tre thta rape charges were never pursued sincerely, when Julian was resident in that country for over 6 months In Sweeden Rape is a serious charge to be overlooked lihgtly. What lends credence to the fact of vendeta and vindictiveness is that these charges have surfaced with a lot of adverse publicity, after the disclosure of Wikileaks The judgement in England cannot be termed as biased per se, but the appeal will finally seal his fate The prosecution, if at all inSweeden with will be watched with great interest and analysed minutely , so that there is no miscarriage of justice and it is not a ploy to get even Julian by his leaks have antogonised many countries and caused upheavals of great embarassments He may not be counted as a serious journalists, but cannot at the same time be labeled as espionage agent He has caused tremors by his disclosures , which may not be classified material But the diplomatic cables potray the arrogance of some countries in beliitling Nations, by their casual communications and comments. He is strangulated by a cartel of supporters acting in unison to cut his life line of fund Julian Assange will always be remebered for breaking virgin grounds on secret,diplomatic cables When even harmless information is kept secret and out of bounds, the urge and curiosity to to be excited by such disclosure is only natural exciting The leaks show how these cables ridicule sovereign Nations and embarass Governments Nelson Lopes Chinchinim
[Goanet] Disgraceful priests and nuns meet Advani
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- The report about a bunch of priests and nuns meeting L K Advani is a 'disgrace' to the Catholic Church, to use a milder term. While the catholic community in Goa is a victim of several discriminatory policies supported by BJP, we have a bunch of priests and nuns appealing for more seats to minorities by BJP and cursing the Congress. Seems to be that the jesuit priest is a habitual publicity seeking entity. The last time he met the BJP leader a couple of years ago, when confronted he explained that he was seduced into it by a Porvorim based christian agent of the BJP. But an act committed the second time confirms exactly the opposite. This time it is an act committed with free will. Do catholics in Goa need to beg for seats from Advani who claims to have been an alumini of St. Patrick's school but has been part of the political tirade against the minorities in this country? -- Soter D'Souza Socorro,Goa 9890056616
[Goanet] Thank you my goanet friends for making my Day!
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Ahh, .. Sontoss bhoglo re jivako... Aiz mhoji Feppi Boddei- mhunn jivak borem dissta. Odhik mhaka khuxalkai bhogta mhoje mogall amig mhojea vhaddissacho ugddas korun mhaka wish kortat mhunn. Sade monxanim, mhoje bhashen khuxalbhorit zavn mhaka zolm-dissachim porbim dilim mhunn hanv khub khuxal zalom. I would like to thank my dear friends in cyberspace who wished me: JOEGOAUK with his especially made Utube video with 765 views, of which mine are 761 which I view regularly especially to celebrate everyone’s birthday with caju fanni like today, feppi boddei. Thanks Freddy Agnelo fernandes for your kind words, Senhor Joel D’Souza every year my friend wishes me from the bottom of his heart and I like that. And lots more friends like Edward Verdes. Thanks my friend Roland Francis, who always calls me up to talk about Goanity as always and we meet sometimes over a few drinks. Ah , what a life! I luv people who are down-to-earth . Hope to meet nice friends in Goa in 3 weeks time. You can always see me at Old Goa eating sausage-pao or at Tiatr any weekends either in Margao or Ponjj at Kala Academy. It is always a pleasure to meet with our Goan heroes like Frederick Noronha, Joel and Alexyx. Hope to meet JoeGoaUk this time. Ok just to make it clear, if there are any mistakes here, or if I missed anyone, it is the fault of this Caju Fernandes B.A. Botto, who visits me on my zolma-diss. You made my Day! Dev borem korum! Silviano
[Goanet] Hunting Satyagrahis. . .
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Editor of Goan Observer Mr. Rajan Narayan has done his readers a big favor by reprinting (as part of his 'Countdown to Liberation Series) the very objective and detailed report of independent American journalist Homer A. Jack, on the attempt by unarmed 'satyagrahis', to enter Goa soon after the 'liberation of Dadra Nagar Haveli' in 1955. . The article first appeared in the Issue of Hindustan Times, Delhi dated August 19, 1955. It would be nice if that piece could get wide circulation; not because there is need to raise new or renewed feelings of bitterness about the past, but because those who fail to know the real facts of their history may be condemned to repeat it. Homer Jack's report is very detailed since he was present for the Press Briefing given in Panjim at ten o'clock evening when things were deemed finished and the 'satyagrahis' 'routed'. Perhaps, unknown to me, there is a tangible memorial to one Panna Lal Yadav, so beautifully memorialized by Journalist Jack in the main body of his story (at least thirteen of them died) and in his closing sentence, And I shall never forget the supreme sacrifice of Panna Lal Yadav and how, so silently, so determinedly, so wonderfully calm his comrades sat around his body on the stone floor of the ancient Hindu temple. Azad Goa! Jai Hind! My emotional response to those enormaties of the historical past---the killings, the tortures, the stupidities and horrors of it all---derives from attempts to fathom the thinking of Jesuit scientist/philosopher Pierre Teilhard de Chardin; the whole cosmic reality is 'all of a piece', and in a constant state of 'becoming'---and WE are its leading shoot. As WE go, so goes the whole cosmic future. What to do (?), except forgive the 'sins of our fathers' and pray for our own deliverance, in the hope that the historical evil, like bio-compost (just plain 'manure') can serve as the growth-medium for a new spiritual and psychic flowering. In Goa hundreds of Masses are read every day for the 'departed souls'---that 'they may be loosed from their sins'. Perhaps every year, on one of those commemorations of newfound social political 'freedom', we should flock to our churches, mosques and temples to beseech our 'GODS'---to grant FORGIVENESS to those who, mostly unwittingly, were 'oppressors of the past'---Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
Re: [Goanet] Is it too tough at the top? The leaders who failed the stress test
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Gabe Menezes wrote: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/is-it-too-tough-at-the-top-the-leaders-who-failed-the-stress-test-6256413.html Gabe, Thanks for this report which had two bits of info for me: 1) I did not realise that Lloyds was a govt run bank. I will have to avoid it as experience has taught me that when politicians appoint people to run govt owned businesses, they chose their friends rather than the most qualified person for the lob. As a result, these businesses usually fail. 2) I had to wonder if the above article is 'paid news' ala Mayabhushan. Maybe the 1% are on an aggressive public relations mode to justify to the 99% how well they deserve their obscene salaries. As far as stress tests are concerned, how about this one from today's, The Globe and Mail, Toronto? Mom is a multitasker “A Scottish woman who took her driving exam while in labour said she passed the test and drove herself to the hospital to give birth,” reports United Press International. “Emma French, 20, of Livingston said her water broke about 4 a.m. on Aug. 30 and she decided to take the 8:40 a.m. driving exam when the baby did not immediately come, The Mirror reported Tuesday. ‘Everyone was telling me to go to the hospital, but I had waited so long for my driving test, I was determined to do it,’ Ms. French said. [She] said she kept her contractions, which were about 10 minutes apart, a secret from the examiner and drove herself to the hospital after passing the test.” Mervyn
[Goanet] BISHOPS SPINE - BOMBAY SKELETON - CITY ELECTIONS
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Bombay has being ripped of all its flesh and has been reduced to a skeleton due to the broad-day light destruction of bombays ecology, environment, openspaces, mangroves, saltpanlands, etc by the builders – slumlords - politicians – landmafia - bureaucracy – collectorsoffice - police – rationoffice – bmc – mhada - mmrda……..no past/present/future bishops appointed by vatican for bombay has dared to speakup against the people who are destroying bombay……..an old joke that goes something like this: When a new bishop is elected, he immediately undergoes surgery to remove his spine. MMRDA was given land in the past for setting up public utilities, gardens, etc in bombay but MMRDA is selling away the land for residential purpose. The recent news is of MMRDA selling 115 acres of land in Wadala for Rs.5/- crore to the builders lobby. In the past MMRDA has also sold vacant lands in its possession to builders lobby. Can anyone stop MMRDA from destroying bombay ? Politicians who are in construction business or directly/indirectly associated with builderslobby should be disqualified from contesting elections in bombay…..…..politicians who are elected in some other constituency of Maharashtra should not be allowed to take decisions for Bombay……….politicians who have not disclosed their sources of income election funds should be disqualified from contesting elections in bombay……..all decisions taken for bombay in BMC Committees Maharashtra Legislative Assembly should be approved by citizen – civic – rti – ecology – environmental activists……..municipal elections in bombay should be held every 2.5 years and not 5 years………can the Indian Government pass such special election laws for Bombay The BMC had some years back passed a rule that no new building will get NOC if the building does not have water harvesting system but that rule is only on paper……The BMC had also passed a rule that new buildings will get bmc water connections only when the middle vaitarna project is complete but that rule is also on paper………there is also a rule that a building should have around it adequate space for a fire brigade vehicle to move freely but this rule is also violated………there are 30 different permissions to be taken before a builder can commence the construction of his buildings and to bypass all permissions, rules, laws the builder pumps in cash everywhere………..the ruling party politicians in govt bmc also ensure builders get more Floor space index FSI TDR relaxation in CRZ exploitation of openspaces mangroves saltpanlands, etc in return for election funds, free flats, luxury cars, etc etc etc……….it appears that all people in power position have sold their hearts minds body soul to the builders lobby.with more and more new buildings slums coming up everywhere expect more and more shortage of water, public transport, public utilities, etc etc etc. The Catholic Clergy in Bombay programmed the lay catholics to remain non-combative, non-ambitious, non-aggressive, susegaad, dormant, alcoholic politically inactive……….this explains why catholics in bombay are…not in a position to politically agitate for their rights……….not in a position to influence the policies of the maharasthra govt., bmc, mmrda……not in position to revolt against those parish priests who are misusing church funds illegally selling away vacant church properties refusing admission to children of poor catholics in parish schools…….not in a position to protect the last few bits of openspaces, mangroves, saltpanlandsnot in a position to revolt against Bollywood which stereotypes catholics as drunkards loose characters……not in a position to aggressively apply for Government jobs – Bank jobs - police jobs – armedforces jobs etc……not in a position to work towards becoming IAS/IPS officers…….etc etc etc. CHRISTIANS ARE BEING HARASSED IN MANY PARTS OF INDIA BECAUSE THE ENEMY KNOWS CHRISTIANS WILL NOT RETALIATE WITH A VENGENANCE……….a vast majority of christians in India are poor but instead of serving poor christians the Christian missionaries are using their foreign funds to serve poor non-christians….WHAT A SHAME. In call centers the Hindus have to temporarily adopt for their 8 hour shift a Christian name or American type name in order to conceal the Indian nationality. Similarly there are around 20% Christians in India who have been baptized with Hindu names in order to conceal their Christian identity. Some Christians believe that a Hindu name will benefit their childrens career
[Goanet] Art escape goa resort feature
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- *ABOUT:* ART ESCAPE is a back-to-basics Eco Art Resort, an arts hub, an innovation centre and a knowledge sharing and experiential platform. It’s a quaint back to basics resort with 12 independent bamboo cottages along with an active resto-lounge bar dedicated workshop cum relaxation space in the best part of GOA. It’s a stones throw from the beautiful vaddi beach that offers white sands, a very friendly sea, no crowds and yet, only a walk away from the buzzing Benaulim beach. It is also a hub of creative activities like Art, Sculpture, Music, Theatre, Dance, Yoga, Recycling, Design, Innovation etc with onsite events and physical workshops to even organized experiential workshops ranging from a days to 3-4 days or longer. Thirdly and most importantly, its YOUR escape into a potentially creative experience, the depth of which only you will control as you wish. You could simply experience the events and workshops or choose to actively participate in them, taking back memorabilia and memories for a lifetime. For all the above activities, you could be our member, a walk-in guest, a creative seeking a place to settle for a bit while you ideate/experiment/share or you could be part of an organized group of any age. Kids especially will enjoy the wide-open spaces and the myriad opportunities to explore and express themselves through various experiential activities and workshops. For corporate groups, we offer special packages where our creative core team of experienced designers tailor-make team building activities and workshops that get the creative juices flowing. *COMPANY OVERVIEW:* ART ESCAPE is an initiative driven by experienced professionals who have a passion for all forms of creative arts and have a desire to forever continue to meet interesting people, collaborate, learn and then share with individuals and communities. You don't have to be an artist to give in to the experience of creative arts, but it will enrich your life in a much deeper way. Art escape is the first of its kind in India and we follow a flexible schedule to help you make the best use of your time. There is ample free time to wander the villages and beaches or simply relax. The weekends and some week nights set you free with avant-garde performances by renowned musicians (jazz, rock, blues, retro.. Etc). Something to look out for after sessions are fishing trips, sundown activities, visit an artist studio, bon-fires, wine dine with live acoustic music and lots more. *RELAX | UNWIND | REFRESH * Stay with comfort, peace and tranquility at Art Escape. Situated south of Benaulim in south Goa, a 30second walk to Waddi Beach (Trinity beach). Offering you activities like creative art workshops, yoga, massage, music, dance, theatre activity, films, pottery, innovation workshops more. We have 12 bamboo cottages, resto lounge an art space as part of the common space for the visitors staying in the cottages. • 4 nos of cottages with attached toilets ( for 2 people) • 4 large nos of cottages (accommodate up to 5- 6nos in a room) without toilets • 4 medium nos of cottages (accommodate up to 2-3 nos in a room) without toilets • 4 common toilet facilities.• Resto lounge (restaurant cum café open for the public) • Art lounge (yoga, painting, theatre, pottery workshops conducted) We offer you a close -to-nature experience with no other houses or resort nearby and the sound of waves as your background music. You have a choice of participating in the various workshops we conduct or can just enjoy the remote stillness of the place. Art escape offers you peace tranquility and our friendly staff would be more than pleased to organize or guide your sight seeing excursions day trips. The surrounding of art escape also happens to be a haven for bird watchers. Our resto-lounge offers healthy, delicious nutritious food. Our cuisine is a fusion experimental food organic, healthy, green, solar cooked, world cuisine.So come to experience some new tastes and hope your taste buds will approve. ART ESCAPE offers the venue to host facilitate conferences/seminars/ activities /music events/festivals etc and special discounts are offered on group bookings to corporate, schools, colleges communities. For further details log on www.artescape.in (website will be updated shortly) We offer special packages on stay food for people staying for longer time and to visitors participating in workshops. Thanks for all the support, once again * * *MISSION:* Art
[Goanet] To all -- Law educated True Goans
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- To all Other Law educated True Goans of all over the world, You'll know the truth about illegal annexation of Goa in 1961 and Yet Being educated in law have choosen to remain silence for so long ?!! . I am still at loss to understand why a educated person with degrees in Law would remain silent to this illegal Unlawfull acts of Indian Govt, when all indian Govt wanted was to make Goa as a Colony for its uncontrolled evil population , loot and destroy goa from the face of the earth slowly as years goes by. But the question is :- Are these Law educated Goans are real Patriotic Goans with Noble heart or are they born cowards ?!!! Any way i request to join us .or atleast do something about it to raise the issue of Illegal annexation since you all are a Capable and got duty towards True God and True Goa . Than perhaps Your name( like Dr Jack Sequire) will shine forever on this earth or at least in Goan History even after death for standing up against mighty Evil India as King David stood against Goliath( 1 samuel 40-54) trusting in True Gods Help in the end .to defeat the mighty Goliath , which most Israelites thought was IMPOSSIBLE..not knowing that with God all things are possible when a willing heart is ready to stand for the truth without fear and Complete trust in True living God. In true living God we trust and in his Holy Name( Jesus Christ) we put our Hope [ Matthew 12:21]..that we true Goans will be helped by Gods choosen people and nations.. to be independent Country. Kind regards, M.Britto - Forwarded Message - From: Goa World goa.wo...@yahoo.com To: gulf-go...@yahoogroups.com Cc: The Goan Forum TGF goa-go...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, 22 October 2011, 7:19 Subject: [Gulf Goans] Non Resident Goans expect action not more conventions - Adv. Aires Rodrigues GULF-GOANS e-NEWSLETTER (since 1994) http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans/ www.colaco.net http://www.goa-world.com/goa/music/live.htm NON RESIDENT GOANS EXPECT ACTION NOT MORE CONVENTIONS We all know the issues that concern our fellow Goans living in other states across India and overseas. Over the years there have been so many Goan Conventions that have deliberated thread bare issues concerning Goa and related to Non-Resident Goans. There has been enough of talking and posturing. What we now need is some action on the part of the government to redress the concerns and grievances of Goans living outside Goa. After years of service outside Goa or abroad many Non Resident Goans (NRG) long to settle in the land of their birth. But for many reasons they get disheartened and give up. Many Goans feel the urge to contribute towards shaping the future of Goa but the authorities must encourage them to return and invest their skills and savings in the land of their roots. But the high level of corruption in Goa is something every NRG detests. So a war on corruption by the Government of Goa could be the starting point in laying the red carpet for NRGs. In March 2006 Mr. Eduardo Faleiro got himself appointed as Goa’s Commissioner for NRI Affairs with cabinet status. Why was there a need to drain the State exchequer with a cabinet status? By virtue of his cabinet status Mr. Faleiro now has 11 staff at his disposal. These include four peons and a driver who work at his residence in Raia. The Government of Goa is also paying the salary of one Mr. Amit Sharma who is Mr. Faleiro’s clerk based at Delhi. Besides the 11 staff that are employed by Mr. Faleiro, the Director of NRI Affairs, Mr. Ulhas Kamat (a post officially yet not created) and his two clerks are also being paid by the State treasury. There is no doubt that Goa needs a NRG (non-resident Goan) cell to act as an interface to resolve the grievances of the NRG’s across the world. An efficient Director with two or three dynamic and pro-active staff is all that was needed. The 2007 Goan Convention organized by Mr. Eduardo Faleiro at a 5 star hotel at Dona Paula cost the tax year almost Rs 40 lakhs. As a registered delegate at that Convention I did attempt to raise the issue of the Regional plan and illegal mining. Mr. Faleiro however summoned the police and asked me to leave which I did after seeking a refund of the delegate fee I had paid. I felt that the convention needed to deliberate the anti-Goa, anti-people and an anti-environment Regional
Re: [Goanet] Now iffi jetty full of potholes
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- JoeGoaUk wrote: Less than five years old Iffi jetty is full of dangerous potholes It was built at the cost of Rs.180,00,000 in 2006 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk44/6308377575/sizes/l/in/photostream/ Joe, This jetty is within walking distance from where I was staying in Panjim earlier this year. Every evening we would walk on the beaches and when we approached the jetty, a uniformed police man would shoo us away. One day, I asked a local what the policeman was saying and he translated, The jetty is only for foreigners. I doubt any govt i.e. city, state or national, in Canada could use tax money to build a public good and bar the very taxpayers taxpayers from using the same. Mervyn
[Goanet] Fw: Secular Credentials of RSS-BJP???
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- http://www.epaperoheraldo.in/Details.aspx?id=2240boxid=5219937uid=dat=11/3/2011 I read with great interest this news item and it has made my day. Since 1962, I have considered Lal Krishna Advani ( and his brand of RSS-BJP) the most secular person in the entire world who deserves to be locked up in the darkest of the dark cell in TIHAR JAIL and the keys thrown out into Pakistan. That the so called 'Catholic' Delegation comprising of gullible Goans should knock on the doors of this communal wiper in his hotel room pleading with him to open the doors of his RSS-BJP to minorities aka Catholics should be celebrated with fanfare. The only consolation that I have is that this delegation comprised of Catholics and not CHRISTIANS who are being brutalized, killed, murdered et al in various parts of India. I have made a special note of names in the so called delagation who could be interested in being given the BJP ticket for PORVORIM. For them, when they call 'national parties' they mean the CONGRESS. All I can say is VERY WELL DONE. This delagation should do well to go down on their knees to plead with Manmohan Singh and Sonia Gandhi to hand-over the Prime Minister's chair to this communal viper ADVANI. Chances are they might just listen to them. Cheers floriano goasuraj
[Goanet] Did Bob Marley know Konkani?
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Dominic Fernandes wrote: As far as Konkani is concerned, many foreigners who lived in Goa from the late 1960s through mid 1980s spoke Konkani fluently. Of course, their children spoke better Konkani. Presently, foreigners' children are learning Konkani in our schools. RESPONSE: I find the assertion that many foreigners...spoke Konkani fluently bizarre. Konkani like most Asian languages would be very difficult for Europeans to master. The wide range of phonetics required, which are not found in their own language, make it nearly impossible for them to vocalise them not to mention memorize them. Secondly, the syntax of the language is different from European syntax and it would take years of dedicated study under the supervision of a trained monshee to master it. Even Goans who live in Goa but predominantly speak in English, have a hard time then speaking in Konkani fluently. So the idea that many foreigners spoke it fluently is hyperbole at best. Even Sir Richard Burton who could speak many Indian languages did not have Konkani as one of the languages he spoke fluently. This despite the fact that he almost always hired Goans as his personal valet or cookboys because he thought they were far less trouble than other ethnicities. There is one letter from an acquaintance that says, he was heard speaking a mixture of Konkani and Portuguese with his Goanese servants. Best, Selma
[Goanet] Pakistan | The CSF
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[Goanet] Leap in student suicides | The CSF
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Re: [Goanet] Disgraceful priests and nuns meet Advani
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- And perhaps it was the same Porvorim based 'BJP agent' at his best to seduce this thick-headed Jesuit Priest for the second time , and eager to be 'raped' so called Cathoic Nuns??? Cheers floriano goasuraj 9890470896 - Original Message - From: so...@bsnl.in To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 11:59 AM Subject: [Goanet] Disgraceful priests and nuns meet Advani --- The report about a bunch of priests and nuns meeting L K Advani is a 'disgrace' to the Catholic Church, to use a milder term. While the catholic community in Goa is a victim of several discriminatory policies supported by BJP, we have a bunch of priests and nuns appealing for more seats to minorities by BJP and cursing the Congress. Seems to be that the jesuit priest is a habitual publicity seeking entity. The last time he met the BJP leader a couple of years ago, when confronted he explained that he was seduced into it by a Porvorim based christian agent of the BJP. But an act committed the second time confirms exactly the opposite. This time it is an act committed with free will. Do catholics in Goa need to beg for seats from Advani who claims to have been an alumini of St. Patrick's school but has been part of the political tirade against the minorities in this country? -- Soter D'Souza Socorro,Goa 9890056616
Re: [Goanet] Did Bob Marley know Konkani?
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- As I see it, there are two separate issues here: (i) Whether *many* foreigners who lived in Goa in the 1960s-1980s spoke Konkani fluently. Frankly, I do not know, and there are AFAIK no statistics to prove one way or another. What I *do* know is that *some* foreigners did and do speak Konkani fluently. This is specially true of young kids who grew up in the villages, and had Konkani-speaking Goan kids as their playmates. Just to give one example: the German girl who unfortunately got caught up in a badly politicised controversy in which there were all kinds of interests (as the son of a controversial politician was involve), had grown up in my village. Local kids spoke to her in Konkani, and she was referred to as if she was some kind of a local. Even a school like the century-old Mater Dei, in Saligao, today has a number of foreign students (because it is a privately-run unfunded school, and has an English-medium primary). Though this ICSE school is not obligated to teach Konkani, they do teach it to those who don't take a foreigner exemption from Indian languages. Some kids there speak English too with the most Goan of Goan accents, though their genes could be traced to Germany, Sweden or Kashmir! (ii) The second question is how easy or difficult the Konkani language is to learnt... Spoken Konkani is not difficult to master. The current official Konkani is difficult, specialy for those not familiar with the Devanagari script. Apart from the script, one also has to cope with the Antruzi variant of the langauge there, which is not the commonly spoken kind in large parts of Goa. Of course, it is still hard to find Konkani learning courses and texts, in Goa itself! Not to speak of tutors (many scholars face this problem). But for foreign children, growing up with local children, this is hardly a problem. Lastly, I think Richard Burton's experiences a century or more ago are hardly relevant to the experiences of tourists (and their children) in today's Goa. He came with a certain baggage, while the contemporary interest is quite different. FN FN +91-9822122436 (SMS) Doha, Qatar On 4 November 2011 15:15, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote: Dominic Fernandes wrote: As far as Konkani is concerned, many foreigners who lived in Goa from the late 1960s through mid 1980s spoke Konkani fluently. Of course, their children spoke better Konkani. Presently, foreigners' children are learning Konkani in our schools. RESPONSE: I find the assertion that many foreigners...spoke Konkani fluently bizarre. Konkani like most Asian languages would be very difficult for Europeans to master. The wide range of phonetics required, which are not found in their own language, make it nearly impossible for them to vocalise them not to mention memorize them. Secondly, the syntax of the language is different from European syntax and it would take years of dedicated study under the supervision of a trained monshee to master it. Even Goans who live in Goa but predominantly speak in English, have a hard time then speaking in Konkani fluently. So the idea that many foreigners spoke it fluently is hyperbole at best. Even Sir Richard Burton who could speak many Indian languages did not have Konkani as one of the languages he spoke fluently. This despite the fact that he almost always hired Goans as his personal valet or cookboys because he thought they were far less trouble than other ethnicities. There is one letter from an acquaintance that says, he was heard speaking a mixture of Konkani and Portuguese with his Goanese servants. Best, Selma
[Goanet] CHURCH WEALTH for CATHOLICS IAS-IPS OFFICERS.
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Two catholic youths got butchered on the streets of bombay at the hands of slumlords political goons and the Bishop is still quiet but what can one expect from spineless bishops the past/present/future bishops appointed for bombay never dare to speakup against the slumlords political goons………from 1960 onwards around 5000 catholics in bombay have been attacked by slumlords political goons some of these catholics did not survive more than 90% of these attacks were related to land related issues…….since catholics are non-violent unarmed and will not retaliate with a vengenance due to which the slumlords political goons have taken advantage of the catholics….….but what is more shameful is that no foreign funded catholic missionaries bothers to offer financial help to the families of the catholics who are attacked by slumlords political goons the only thing the catholic missionaries are interested is in utilizing their foreign funds for serving the non-catholics living in slums in order to convert them. Christian Catholic Clergy Missionaries should stop wasting church wealth, church funds, money recvd from sale of vacant church properties foreign donations on fraudulent allurement conversion activities……instead the church wealth, funds foreign donations should be utilized in providing financial assistance to poor catholic families…….financial assistance to those catholic youth who want to become doctors engineers IAS/IPS officers etc……..and financial assistance to those catholic youth who want to become self-employed…..and financial assistance to those catholics who want to repair their old dilapidated houses………and financial assistance to unemployed catholic youth……..and financial assistance to those catholics who are sick and cannot afford doctor hospital fees……..and financial assistance to all the needy and poor catholics………the SAD part is the catholic clergy/missionaries are not under the control of the lay catholics due to which the demands of the lay catholics is not of any relevance to the catholic clergy/missionaries in India. Look at the Jain Community whatever gold coins, diamonds, silver, foodgrains, sugar, ghee, money, etc the wealthy jains donate to the jain temples the caretakers of the jain temples redistribute the gold coins, diamonds, silver, money, etc to the poor jains this way the wealth of the jains remains within the jain community no wonder the jain community is the richest community in India. Some Mangalorean Konkani Catholic Associations in Bombay/Vasai are doing an excellent job in utilizing church parish halls in providing some basic training to those mangalorean catholic youth who are interested in becoming IAS/IPS officers………eastindian associations which are only interested in organizing singing competitions food festivals should learn a few things from the mangalorean associations. The Indian govt. is going to pump Rs. 64000 crore to setup more troops battalions at the China border……the Indian govt. is most welcome to setup the troops battalions but it would be very nice of the govt. to print 64000 crore extra currency notes instead of burdening the common man with more taxes, fuel hikes, etc. Today India would have been a developed country if the Indian govt. State govts. in the past had strictly enforced the two child policy and passed stringent laws against corruption – female foeticide/infanticide – communal/casteists forces - divisive politicians – land grabbers – black money, etc etc etc AND improved the infrastructure, industries job opportunities in rural backward districts…….BUT it’s late now……there are 300 million Indians who are struggling with Rs.20/- a day and with population rising expect more poor people more crimes more water shortage more housing problems more transport problems more food shortage more land shortage etc etc etc. 150 years back the native catholics in bombay known by the name EastIndians ( www.bombayland.blogspot.com ) possessed most of the lands in bombay……but 90% of the eastindians were reduced to a status of backward class because they lost all their ancestral lands in bombay to the british raj, Indian govt, maharashtra govt, bmc, collectorsoffice, slumlords, landmafia, righwinghindugroups, political groups, buildersmafia, mmrda, mhada……..and due to Alcoholism, Infighting Jealousy the 90% eastindians have become more poor………the other 10% eastindians in bombay who were able to save some of their lands became wealthy by selling away their lands 1980 onwards to the
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (4Nov11)
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[Goanet] Honor Mumbai's Bravehearts by your talk/action
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- I am sure Goans were shocked to hear of the brutal murder of Keenan and Reuben in Mumbai; they were killed for standing up to the eve-teasers. What's more shocking was that these murders were in the open, by cold blooded killers and the people around them did nothing to help; Not to mention the apathy of the compromised police. More so, the Horrid Killers appear to have a cloak on invincibility, as they feel that they had the strongest political backing due to Vote Bank politics. We cannot get these two Bravehearts back, but I think that if anyone wants to honor them, they should start in some measure to speak up and act for what is right. We must realise that in a way our Society(including the so called educated class) has allowed such barbaric acts by allowing/supporting/glorifying specific tainted politicians to be elected by falling prey to cash, alcohol, special favours, corrupt favour, manipulative personal charisma, religious gimmicks etc What goes around comes around and those in Goa supporting thug/criminal/corrupt Goan politicians be careful, as God Forbid you or your loved ones could see the same horrid fate, by the disgusting system you are growing/supporting today. The very Politician you glorify could turn on you, should his/her interests be higher than his/her interest for you. I still believe that evil prevails only because the good majority do not speak up and are intimidated by the evil forces!! -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html 5. Goa's Identity Movement group on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com//#/group.php?gid=193497031686 6. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/
[Goanet] 7 Things you should stop doing at work
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[Goanet] Need New Good People in Goan Politics
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Many current Politicians have been ruling Goa for a long time and have taken our beautiful state backward on all fronts. They have looted the state treasury, sold land to sharks, changed demographics via mega projects, made the system extremely corrupt; so much so that Goans can't see a future in employment, business etc and prefer to migrate from Goa. These Ageing Politicians call themselves Man of Masses, Dynamic Leaders, other rubbish and feel that they are invincible. Their strategy of winning elections includes (1) Buying off voters with cash, rice, fertilizers, paying of amenities, illegal favours etc (2) Religious gimmicks and dividing Goa's religious communities (3) Manipulative Charisma and so on. Now as they are ageing, they want their Children to continue with their destructive policies. I appreciate that some time the Kin can be different from their destructive parents, but I cant see any of them so far in this regard. If fact, I know that some of them planning to contest the next Assembly elections are educated, but are actually much worst than their respective Parent in Power. The Good People must stand for elections, they have nothing to lose but the fact that the common Goan excuse of there being no alternative, be addressed. Who knows some of the Good People can even win elections against the Corrupt Anti Goan Goliaths!! We need just a few Good People in Power to change the tide for Goa and I strongly believe that we can. The Anti Goans cleverly use Vote Banks say for example (1) Corrupt Voters (2) Migrant Voters etc to win and continue destroying Goa/Goans for the benefit of themselves, families and their bootlickers; in the same way the New Good People/Politicians must also use a very strong vote bank i.e. the Vote Bank of the Good Goans who love their state/identity and are pained to see it being destroyed today!! Arwin Mesquita, UAE. -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html 5. Goa's Identity Movement group on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com//#/group.php?gid=193497031686 6. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/
[Goanet] Can We Reverse Aging By Changing How We Think? - The Daily Beast
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Re: [Goanet] Did Bob Marley know Konkani?
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- As usual Frederick will regale us with his balderdash. So he knows a German girl speaking in Konkani and extrapolates that to mean foreigners speak in Konkani fluently. Yes, young children exposed to any language have the ability to learn that language. Infact, linguists and those companies that make Phonics for children are at pains to study how exactly children learn language. But we are talking here of many foreigners who resided in Goa presumably as adult fun-loving, pot-smoking hippies of the 1960s that according to Dominic spoke fluent Konkani. And I say, this is a near impossibility. For an adult to learn a language just by casually listening to it, is an impossible task. Try it!! Ask the Konkani-speaking Goans living in Swindon how easy it is to learn to speak English fluently. Their children of course will master it. And if you are dealing with languages such as Arabic, Hebrew, Mandarin or any of the Sanskrit derivatives then it is twice as hard unless you study it as a language for many years. Secondly, I have no idea by Frederick has summarily dismissed Burton as irrelevant to the discussion. Burton was a dedicated linguist -not a casual observor or weed smoking tourist, and my point is even he does not have Konkani listed as one of the languages he spoke fluently, despite the fact that he must have heard it spoken frequently around him. Here is a list of the languages he spoke: http://www.sirrichardfrancisburton.org/rfb_languages.html We do know that he had some knowledge of it because here and there, he translates words spoken by his cookboys. Burton learnt and knew to speak Marathi, closely related to Konkani. Burton believed that Konkani was a variant of Marathi. If you access the link it will say that he started learning his Portuguese from a Goan (not entirely true, he started practicing his Portuguese with this Goan). This was a priest that was stationed in Baroda. Because of his relationship with the priest, Burton's quarters in Baroda were nicknamed The Inquisition. Notice, he chose not to converse in Konkani with this priest but in Portuguese. And what is this baggage that he came with and how is it different to contemporary interests in a discussion relating to language? I challenge Frederick to tell me about Burton's baggage. I am only putting forward this challenge because I know I can confidentaly beat Mr Noronha to a pulp in discussions relating to Burton :-) Now one reason why he would not have bothered to learn the language was because it had not value to him in his army career. But his closest aids in his expedition into Africa were Goans and had he been speaking to them fluently in Konkani then much would have been made of it. Instead, it his Goan boys, who probably knew a bit of Hindi and English, who were expected to be translators within the group. Best, selma From: Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoro...@gmail.com To: Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com; Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Did Bob Marley know Konkani? As I see it, there are two separate issues here: (i) Whether *many* foreigners who lived in Goa in the 1960s-1980s spoke Konkani fluently. Frankly, I do not know, and there are AFAIK no statistics to prove one way or another. What I *do* know is that *some* foreigners did and do speak Konkani fluently. This is specially true of young kids who grew up in the villages, and had Konkani-speaking Goan kids as their playmates. Just to give one example: the German girl who unfortunately got caught up in a badly politicised controversy in which there were all kinds of interests (as the son of a controversial politician was involve), had grown up in my village. Local kids spoke to her in Konkani, and she was referred to as if she was some kind of a local. Even a school like the century-old Mater Dei, in Saligao, today has a number of foreign students (because it is a privately-run unfunded school, and has an English-medium primary). Though this ICSE school is not obligated to teach Konkani, they do teach it to those who don't take a foreigner exemption from Indian languages. Some kids there speak English too with the most Goan of Goan accents, though their genes could be traced to Germany, Sweden or Kashmir! (ii) The second question is how easy or difficult the Konkani language is to learnt... Spoken Konkani is not difficult to
Re: [Goanet] Did Bob Marley know Konkani?
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Selma, I have no problem in acknowledging your specialisation in Burtonology. However, I see a problem in trying to understand contemporary Goa by way of what Burton did or did not do. Or what he did or did not choose to learn. FN PS: And I'm not saying that breathless journalism (which we guys usually indulge in) is a good tool to understand today's Goa either! 2011/11/4 Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com: And what is this baggage that he came with and how is it different to contemporary interests in a discussion relating to language? I challenge Frederick to tell me about Burton's baggage. I am only putting forward this challenge because I know I can confidentaly beat Mr Noronha to a pulp in discussions relating to Burton :-)
[Goanet] The Dash Movie
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- The DashOur life between birth and death. http://www.simpletruths.com/dash/index.html
Re: [Goanet] Did Jesus know Konkani?
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Pedro mentioned that Jesus gave the Sermon on the Mount on the Siolim chapel hill in Konkani (Romi). Pedro is occasionally right. Can our resident speculative Goan historians on this list confirm this (after their shot of feni)? George
[Goanet] Goa news for November 5, 2011
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** BJP demands dismissal of Goa govt - IBNLive.com NLive.comPTI http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNE31fgQu5SOLvea1uXlT0N_22sVBgurl=http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/bjp-demands-dismissal-of-goa-govt/888470.html *** Aditya Birla Money neutral on Sesa Goa; target Rs 228 - Moneycontrol.com oa-to-acquire-goa-energy-for-rs-5372-crSesa Goa To Acquire Goa Energy For Rs 53.72 Cr http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGcY2hoBnY9mnlIFz7T5acICVYMQAurl=http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/recommendations/aditya-birla-money-neutralsesa-goa-target-rs-228_611686.html *** Congress' 'padyatra' in Goa from November 14 - Hindustan Times ndustan TimesPTI The Congress party in Goa has announced its 'padyatra' and rally that will begin in Panaji on the birth anniversary of Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru on November 14 and will culminate on the birthday of Congress President Sonia Gandhi next month. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHO-8HAt7jFcHfg4bGET1xcaNrZUQurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Goa/Congress-padyatra-in-Goa-from-November-14/Article1-764657.aspx *** Maharashtra in command against Goa - Times of India mes of IndiaPTI http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFEpfSXp-OXynxVBIPMg7yCdnTtXgurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/domestic-cricket/ranji-trophy/Maharashtra-in-command-against-Goa/articleshow/10608891.cms *** Players To Watch Sporting Clube De Goa Striker Victorino Fernandes - Goal.com India illage competition, at Assolda-Chandor, located around 10 km away from Margao city in South Goa. In the same year, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFQXVEW0oxOxXlndH4N6e6upxDr5wurl=http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/1064/i-league/2011/11/04/2741651/players-to-watch-sporting-clube-de-goa-striker-victorino *** Sesa Goa to buy 100% stake in Goa Energy for Rs 53.72 cr - Moneycontrol.com wned subsidiary of Vedanta Resources plc (Vedanta), ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEdcgKlwofCbhaTyu1ndbmQ4JmEtwurl=http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/buzzing-stocks/sesa-goa-to-buy-100-stakegoa-energy-for-rs-5372-cr_611463.html *** Goa daily in paid news slur ahead of polls - India Today dia TodayA leading newspaper of Goa has been caught in a paid news scandal ahead of the assembly election early next year. A local journalist, through a sting operation, exposed the OHeraldO daily as indulging in the practice of publishing paid content as news ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGq9csLrWubT9ikpG4SwaMu0-yiSAurl=http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/goa-daily-paid-news-assembly-election-oheraldo-daily/1/158600.html *** K Balachander, Kaul films to be screened at Goa film festival - Times of India mes of IndiaThe festival is scheduled to be held in Goa from November 23 to December 3. Films like 'Aval Oru Thodar Kathai', 'Iru Kodukal' and 'Maro Charithra' by Balachander, all being digitised by NFAI currently, will be screened. Balachander will be present at ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGlwgwWW3b5DiYDjnj-jKILVf5Bfwurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/pune/K-Balachander-Kaul-films-to-be-screened-at-Goa-film-festival/articleshow/10613380.cms *** Goa beaches no longer white and pristine, laments Wendell - Daily Pioneer xploitation due to tourism, painful, but true words of renowned fashion designer Wendell Rodricks sent a hush across the conference hall where the designer ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGcm5TI1wq7JzC3hpDXdfVDfXu4-gurl=http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/17922-goa-beaches-no-longer-white-and-pristine-laments-wendell.html *** Goa has fuel stocks to last one month: Civil supplies director - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: With the present stocks of petrol and diesel and more stocks coming in by November 5, Goa will have sufficient quota to last at least one month, director civil supplies, Arun Desai told TOI on Wednesday. After holding a meeting with ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNG8hPLH-3RczaUj1_84LdGNCXHvZwurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-has-fuel-stocks-to-last-one-month-Civil-supplies-director/articleshow/10600528.cms Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] chinchinim tackles garbage
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Chinchinim tackles garbage The village Panchayat is not very enthusiastic about collecting, segrating disposing garbage. It prefers to lose Rs 25000 plus annual grants for not taking action It is one of the Panchayat that is hauled up by High Court for not adhering to its directive It is unable to find, locate a sight for garbage dump any where in Chinchinim The whole of Chinchinim, like many other places in Goa is a big, open dust bin The connecting roads through Chinchinim are a boon to those , who fling garbage in plastic bags all along the roads There is no determined plan to tackle this issue on a sound footing from the local body The Govt also does not in any way promote and encourage cleanliness in the village. In the past every house used to maintain an open pit for all types of wastes including wet wastes generated by the individual house hold To day every one is sensitized and conscious of garbage disposal .But the process is to keep our compounds immaculately clean by dumping waste somewhere else and roasides are the most dumping grounds The Zilla Panchayat member distributed free reusable bags to no effect The Panchayat along with Chinchinim Citizen`s committee and citizens groups, confiscated plastic bags and even fined the holders for flouting the ban order of the Panchayat An awarernace campaign was carried out with the schools in Chinchinim supported by the Panchayat The Lion club at Chinchinim distributed reusable bags at cost price, The CCC also made available returnable bags with a deposit. All the deposits were forfeited by not rerunning the 40 bags issued all attempts met with failures. Adv Furatado Agnelo is the most passionate crusader about the issue In fact he is humorlessly nick named as the GARBAGE MAN He organised many a seminars, distributed paper bags, distributed pamphlets even on Government subsidies but he receives no support for actions on the ground The Panchayat has boycotted his initiatives by not even attending the meetings He is undaunted and resolute to this day. He continues to conscientise on the problem, funding his self promotion campaigns. The Panchayat does not insist on Garbage management by residential housing collonies, for which it issues no objection certificates for construction These hosing complexes greatly add to the pollution scene in Chinchinim Now there is good news through private initiative by Benny D`Costa at Bamado, Chinchinim .Incidently he is also the secretary of Goa seamen Association and earlier took up the issue of illegal Mosque at Chinchinim Most notable is that he has provided a site in his own property as a dumping ground, when for years the Panchayat has been helpless even to suggest a suitable site for waste disposal According to him the Panchayat has not yet issued the no objection certificate to him The village Panchyat of Navelim is in conversation with him to collect Garbage He collects all types of Garbage provided it is clean and except wet Garbage He collects the wastes from along the roads and all those who requests him by roadside only Most of the places and roadsides appear clean due to his voluntary effort. Segregation is also done on the site. At the moment the collection is on a weekly basis The Panchayat, our local representative ,Lions Club, and other social organisation should at least support financially his efforts,making a common cause with his initiative. The Panchayat has no excuse now, in not collecting and depositing it on this site He states it is an act of social service, concern and love for cleanliness in Chinchinim, though it is not a financially losing proposition or profitable one either The People Of Chinchinim are proud of his taking the challenge and salute him He has succeeded where others have not even ventured or failed in their efforts Can the Govt take a look at this small initiative and support it with resources needed ? Resistance and criticism is never found wanting ,but the experiment is on come what may He has added to the disposal of garbage after the village feast much faster than ever before. Nelson Lopes Chinchinim
[Goanet] Hypocritical protests of village groups on RP 2021
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Goanet archives are witness to the repeated alerts of a sell out on RP 2021by civil society representatives. But no one took cognisance. In fact Rajan and myself were ridiculed for exposing these civil society frauds that were taking the people for a ride. To make matters worse, these civil society experts on the RP - TFwere the consultants to some village groups. Were the village groups ignorant to see the conflict of interest even after a tip off? Now that the death warrant has been signed it defies all logic to see these village groups protesting in the TCP office over the RP -2021. If at all any protest is to be held, it should be before the civil society serenaders that sat on the RP task force and collaborated in this betrayal. The village groups have no moral right to protest before the govetrnment after being active collaborators with these civil society serenaders that were hopping from village to village teaching people about village development planning. What has been sown is being reaped. -Soter
[Goanet] BJP deregularised fuel prices in 2002 and now sheds crocodile tearsr
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- To set the record straight. A quote from the archives of the Hindu IOC, BPCL and HPCL currently sell kerosene at a loss of Rs 18.06 per litre and domestic LPG at Rs 287.59 per cylinder. Petrol and diesel prices were freed by the BJP-led NDA government in April 2002 and revised on 1st and 16th of every month based on fortnightly average of international rates. But this was reversed when the Congress-led government assumed charge in 2004. http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article106999.ece
[Goanet] Law educated true Goans
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Dear Mr. Britto, I do know where you are coming from, we Goans are supposed to be the most literate people on the sub-continent. We have a Goan descent minister in the British Government in fact two a brother and sister. We also have a half Goan who is the mayor of Lisbon whilst we have a Gujarati as the mayor of Panjim. Amongst all these people all over the world we must have a Goan who would take our case to the United Nations to fight over our just cause. I wonder if Leo Lawrence the author of Nehru Seizes Goa is still alive in Portugal? I think he would have been the ideal candidate to take up the cause, since he lived through the invasion. Regards Ignatius Fernandes.
Re: [Goanet] Did Jesus know Konkani?
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- On 5 November 2011 08:06, George Pinto georgejpi...@yahoo.com wrote: Pedro mentioned that Jesus gave the Sermon on the Mount on the Siolim chapel hill in Konkani (Romi). Pedro is occasionally right. Can our resident speculative Goan historians on this list confirm this (after their shot of feni)? George Dear George, It's too early for my half-pint of feni, so you can believe the following at your own risk! With due respect, may I say that your question is off-target. God *is* Goan! So the kwestion of knowing Konkani does not arise. How do I know this? Three Goans actually agreed on this (and you can imagine a situation where three Goans actually agree!) I believe God is a Goan. Its just a belief -- Dr. Carmo D'Cruz, Dept of Engineering Systems, Florida Tech http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-July/145794.html Since God is a Goan ( Jesus Christ is a Goan) and has spoken to both Bush and Blair, inviting them to attack Iraq, I can safely post the following --Gabe Menezes gabe.menezes at gmail.com http://lists.ansteorra.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-May/129369.html Perhaps God is a Goan. -- George Pinto http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2005-April/113848.html Ha! George Pinto himself... we have you on record sir! Even if the perhaps suggest your weak faith (in God's Goanity) FN
[Goanet] Bombay East Indians
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Jorge - for starters, try a more appropriate label: you are a west coast native. You once worshiped Mumbadevi. The first of your cousins to slip on trousers called a convention in Bandra, around 1880: only order of the day, a resolution that rechristened Marathi peasants who now worshipped differently, Bombay East Indians. It was forwarded to Governor Duncan. May I remind you that the Padroado diocese switched to English from Portuguese around 1930. Catholics have progressed from Portuguese, to English to -- patois. This cannot be labeled progress. We survive in an environnment in which store employees ignore shoppers who do not use the vernacular, and bureaucrats are downright rude to supplicants who do not fit the mould. So try again: bury the soul of D'Monte, the 1880 tribal chief. Call yourselves Mumbai Kristis, speak the language of your neighbour's hearts, and endear yourselves to them. A Bassein native who lived in my home for eight years left me fluent in Marathi: I do not feel sorry for myself. eric. Look at the Jain Community whatever gold coins, diamonds, silver, foodgrains, sugar, ghee, money, etc the wealthy jains donate to the jain temples the caretakers of the jain temples redistribute the gold coins, diamonds, silver, money, etc to the poor jains this way the wealth of the jains remains within the jain community no wonder the jain community is the richest community in India. Some Mangalorean Konkani Catholic Associations in Bombay/Vasai are doing an excellent job in utilizing church parish halls in providing some basic training to those mangalorean catholic youth who are interested in becoming IAS/IPS officers………eastindian associations which are only interested in organizing singing competitions food festivals should learn a few things from the mangaloreian. 150 years back the native catholics in bombay known by the name EastIndians ( www.bombayland.blogspot.com ) possessed most of the lands in bombay……but 90% of the eastindians were reduced to a status of backward class because they lost all their ancestral lands in bombay to the british raj, Indian govt, maharashtra govt, bmc, collectorsoffice, slumlords, landmafia, righwinghindugroups, political groups, buildersmafia, mmrda, mhada……..and due to Alcoholism, Infighting Jealousy the 90% eastindians have become more poor………the other 10% eastindians in bombay who were able to save some of their lands became wealthy by selling away their lands 1980 onwards to the builders lobby…….these 10% wealthy eastindians have no interest in helping the other 90% poor eastindians.and since eastindians ( www.east-indians.com ) are christians it is not easy to get jobs in bombay and since the catholic clergy have programmed the eastindians to remain non-combative, non-ambitious, non-aggressive, susegaad, dormant, politically inactive due to which eastindians are not in a position to demand reservations of 5% in government jobs in bombay. Jorge Monteiro Bombay.
Re: [Goanet] Now iffi jetty full of potholes
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Merve - I think the paranoia is directed at 'terrorists' of the kind who rowed into Bombay from a trawler, to blow up our hotels. They are not always likely, however, to look like us: Pakistan uses Afghans for these hits. On of them once shot and killed five CIA employees outside their Washington building. A police bulletin went out for a 'caucasian' suspect ! -- JoeGoaUk wrote: Less than five years old Iffi jetty is full of dangerous potholes It was built at the cost of Rs.180,00,000 in 2006 --- This jetty is within walking distance from where I was staying in Panjim earlier this year. Every evening we would walk on the beaches and when we approached the jetty, a uniformed police man would shoo us away. One day, I asked a local what the policeman was saying and he translated, The jetty is only for foreigners. I doubt any govt i.e. city, state or national, in Canada could use tax money to build a public good and bar the very taxpayers taxpayers from using the same. Mervyn
[Goanet] Goa Catholics seek Advani’s help
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Goa Catholics seek Advani’s help November 4, 2011 Goa, November 3, 2011: Disillusioned with the Congress-led ruling coalition, Goa’s Catholics have made overtures to arch-foes the pro-Hindu Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP -Indian people’s party) in a bid to get support for their demands. An eight-member delegation, including priests and Religious, on Nov. 2 met BJP leader L K Advani who was on a two-day visit to the state as part of what he calls his public-awakening tour against corruption. Fr Max Gonsalves, who led the delegation, informed Advani of their unsuccessful efforts to get the government to change the dates of the International Film Festival of India (IFFI) which clashed with the feast of Goa’s patron saint Francis Xavier. The delegation also asked the BJP leader to prove his secular credentials by considering Catholic candidates for upcoming assembly elections. Defending the decision to meet with the leader of a party that is regularly accused of not being friendly towards Christians, delegation member Joe Carneiro said: “As Congress is not paying heed to our requests, we decided to meet the other side, hoping we may get some of our aims done”. The delegation also told the BJP leader that the state government only pays lip service to the Christian community. They claimed the western state does not have a minority commission and the government does little to protect the rights and interest of Catholics. During the 40-minute meeting, the Catholics also expressed their disgust at rampant corruption, especially with regard to illegal mining in the state. The BJP leader promised to look into the matter and tried to reassure them that he bears no enmity towards Catholics, pointing out that he was educated by Catholics at St Patrick’s school in Karachi. - ucan http://persecutedchurch.info/2011/11/04/goa-catholics-seek-advani%E2%80%99s-help/ Editor-in-Chief: Joseph Dias NB: Team ICAN may not agree with material that appears here, which is published to give a cross section of diverse opinions / views, in the interest of pluralism. We shall also not be liable for any claims made here readers are advised to exercise their own discretion. External sources / links do not signify that we endorse or authenicate them. We have no responsibility for the content of the same. Please do not reply to this email. It is sent from an unattended mailbox. To review this email (and provide feedback), click here. Website: www.thecsf.org Phone: +91 9769 55 56 57Email: trinity@gmail.com / csfp...@gmail.com Address: 75 Vakola Village, Beh. Raut Hospital, Off St. Anthony Street, Santacruz(E), Mumbai - 400 055, India.
Re: [Goanet] To all -- Law educated True Goans
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Oh My !!! Something has happened. A Goan's sleep has been disturbed. In the nightmare, he saw Goa being Annexed and not Liberated. May you dream many more such nightmares until you become SANE and COURAGEOUS. Congratulations, but it is much too late in time . Going back to many years, I read a very promissing advertisement in the Navhind Times ( just like this post). I wrote to the box number in reply to say to the advertiser May God help you in your endeavour to Save Goa Why? Because I felt that Goans are getting up at last. To my surprise, I got a response to my letter inviting me to join up. A one page constitution of 'VOICE OF GOA' party was included. The party was ready to be registered with Election Commission of India. To cut the story short, I met the gentlemen concerned, deliberated with them, chipped in my bit towards the registration but never joined the jing-bang. And from the outside, I am proud to have dissolved the so called 'Voice of Goa' party with everyone going home to call it a bad dream. Why? Because, this would have been another of Goa's parties to follow in their foot-steps to make money by giving tickets. The old man who had his VISION snatched away from him twice, never recovered from the shock. May his soul rest in peace. I am not very enthusiastic about this post by M Britto too. If Goans are getting up, let them get up to demand SPECIAL STATUS for Goa ( which GRA is doing) before Goa goes down the drain. Then and only then we shall Liberate Goa that has been annexed by force and made into a sordid colony by India. I, however do not agree to Mario Soares' (Portugal) views as published in the NT today [4/11/2011-Pg. 8]. He ( Mario Soares) shouldn't have been in such a hurry to sign the co-operation treaty with India on 31st December, 1974 without so much as confiding with GOANS who have been left to hold the porous bag whether to sign it or not. Goans would have told him to put a Special Status clause into that Treaty. These crocodile tears will not work. To M. Britto I want to say. Jesus will help you and others if you take the step forward. Jesus never liked COWARDS. Cheers floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: micheal britto winmi...@yahoo.com To: goa...@goanet.org Cc: herald goa editorher...@herald-goa.com Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 11:31 PM Subject: [Goanet] To all -- Law educated True Goans To all Other Law educated True Goans of all over the world, You'll know the truth about illegal annexation of Goa in 1961 and Yet Being educated in law have choosen to remain silence for so long ?!! . I am still at loss to understand why a educated person with degrees in Law would remain silent to this illegal Unlawfull acts of Indian Govt, when all indian Govt wanted was to make Goa as a Colony for its uncontrolled evil population , loot and destroy goa from the face of the earth slowly as years goes by. But the question is :- Are these Law educated Goans are real Patriotic Goans with Noble heart or are they born cowards ?!!! Any way i request to join us .or atleast do something about it to raise the issue of Illegal annexation since you all are a Capable and got duty towards True God and True Goa . Than perhaps Your name( like Dr Jack Sequire) will shine forever on this earth or at least in Goan History even after death for standing up against mighty Evil India as King David stood against Goliath( 1 samuel 40-54) trusting in True Gods Help in the end .to defeat the mighty Goliath , which most Israelites thought was IMPOSSIBLE..not knowing that with God all things are possible when a willing heart is ready to stand for the truth without fear and Complete trust in True living God. In true living God we trust and in his Holy Name( Jesus Christ) we put our Hope [ Matthew 12:21]..that we true Goans will be helped by Gods choosen people and nations.. to be independent Country. Kind regards, M.Britto
[Goanet] WITH THE BACKING OF TWO FORMER SUPREME COURT JUDGES ADV AMIT DESAI DECLINES TO RETURN THE FIVE LAKHS
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Mumbai Senior Advocate Amit Desai has declined to refund to the Goa Government the five lakhs he was paid for the four hearings he never appeared for before the Bombay High Court at Goa. The Superintendent of Police North Goa Mr. Arvind Gawas had by a letter dated 21st October directed Mumbai Senior Advocate Amit Desai to urgently refund the five lakhs that was erroneously paid to him under a bonafied belief that he had appeared for those four hearings before the Bombay High Court at Goa in the Ryan Fernandes confirmation of death sentence case In his reply to SP Arvind Gawas, Adv. Amit Desai has stated that when he was approached by Advocate General Subodh Kantak to appear in the case for the State of Goa he had clearly indicated that he would be charging Rs 1,25,000 for each day he was required to be in Goa either for meetings, preparation or appearances in the Court. Adv. Desai has further stated that he was also entitled to Rs 25.000 per hour for any conference held at Mumbai. Stating that his appointment was done by the Law Department at the request of the Advocate General, Adv. Amit Desai has stated that he has raised bills as per the actual understanding. Adv. Amit Desai has also sent the Goa Police the legal opinions of two former Supreme Court judges Justice B.N.Srikrishna and Justice S.N.Variava from whom he had sought a written opinion to support his case. Interestingly the legal opinion given by Justice B.N.Srikrishna is dated 19 th October which is two days prior to SP Arvind Gawas’s letter to Adv. Amit Desai. Justice B.N.Srikrishna in his 14 page legal opinion has stated that in his opinion Adv. Amit Desai was entitled to charge conference fees for all the days he was in Goa. Stating that fees charged by Adv. Amit Desai were reasonable, Justice B.N.Srikrishna has opined that the government order stating “per appearance” did not state that it was appearance before the Court. Further stating that it would be unfair to embarrass Senior Advocate Amit Desai by raising such a dispute, Justice B.N.Srikrishna has also opined that instead of nitpicking the Government of Goa should take a reasonable view in the matter. Justice S.N.Variava in his 4 page legal opinion while stating that Adv. Amit Desai was known to be a very busy and much sought after Advocate in Mumbai has opined that the term “per appearance” must necessarily mean “appearance in Goa” and not “appearance in Court”. Justice S.N.Variava has further warned that Goa Government will face a situation where its cases are not properly represented as it will find it difficult to get Senior Advocates from outside Goa to come to Goa and appear in matters on behalf of the Government. Aires Rodrigues T1 - B30, Ribandar Retreat Ribandar - Goa - 403006 Mobile: 9822684372
Re: [Goanet] Request to mailing list Goanet rejected
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Hey, Are you consistent with this policy or is this “selective targeting”? Not that one expects any fairness… but can understand if you can’t find a logical response to this question. Regds, From: goanet-ow...@lists.goanet.org goanet-ow...@lists.goanet.org To: joef...@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 12:48 AM Subject: Request to mailing list Goanet rejected Your request to the Goanet mailing list Posting of your message titled Fw: [CGNet] URGENT STEPS TO SAVE OUR BELOVED GOA - Please Sign the petition. has been rejected by the list moderator. The moderator gave the following reason for rejecting your request: Crossposting disallowed. Any questions or comments should be directed to the list administrator at: goanet-ow...@lists.goanet.org
[Goanet] BJP double speak on interference of priests in politics
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- BJP is known for its double speak. In its hunger for publicity among minoirites it has no problem with a delegation of foolish catholic priests and nuns meeting with L K Advani to impress upon him the need to give more party seats to minorities in BJP dominated bastions. However, the BJP accuses catholic priests in Goa for interfering in politics. Does it not amount to political intereference when a bunch of priests and nuns demand party seats for minorities in elections? -- -Soter D'Souza
[Goanet] A Konkani speaking Kuwaiti
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- A Konkani speaking Kuwaiti It was at a photo-copying shop in Kuwait many years ago. A Kuwaiti man and I were standing side by side, when we ought to have stood one behind the other, for a turn to get our construction drawings copied. After the client before us was done with, the Kuwaiti, as all of them think is their prerogative, went ahead of me to the machine. I let him hear my displeasure, mildly though, and the man quickly turned back and apologised: “Borem re baba, tum zalear tum voch”. First of all, how did a Kuwaiti come to speak in my mother tongue so spontaneously , and secondly, how did he guess I was a Goan? Having been overwhelmed by such a gesture, not only did I give him the privilege due a Kuwaiti, but even got to know him better. He was a member of one of the oldest families of Kuwait, the “AbdulRazzak’s”, who had made Goa his second home for several years, but gave up just when the Portuguese did, to join the family business back home. His uncle, incidentally, was a sponsor of the “Indian School” in Kuwait. As for the second part, the Kuwaiti in question, as indeed most of them in those times, could easily distinguish a ‘farangi’ Indian from a ‘Hindi’. I only became aware of this as time went by, and that was perhaps one of the reasons how, my chance encounter with a Konkani speaking Kuwaiti drew us closer to each other, along with his Aligarh University graduate uncle, Khalid. Bennet Paes From: Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com To: Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoro...@gmail.com; Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Friday, 4 November 2011 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Did Bob Marley know Konkani? --- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- As usual Frederick will regale us with his balderdash. So he knows a German girl speaking in Konkani and extrapolates that to mean foreigners speak in Konkani fluently. Yes, young children exposed to any language have the ability to learn that language. Infact, linguists and those companies that make Phonics for children are at pains to study how exactly children learn language. But we are talking here of many foreigners who resided in Goa presumably as adult fun-loving, pot-smoking hippies of the 1960s that according to Dominic spoke fluent Konkani. And I say, this is a near impossibility. For an adult to learn a language just by casually listening to it, is an impossible task. Try it!! Ask the Konkani-speaking Goans living in Swindon how easy it is to learn to speak English fluently. Their children of course will master it. And if you are dealing with languages such as Arabic, Hebrew, Mandarin or any of the Sanskrit derivatives then it is twice as hard unless you study it as a language for many years. Secondly, I have no idea by Frederick has summarily dismissed Burton as irrelevant to the discussion. Burton was a dedicated linguist -not a casual observor or weed smoking tourist, and my point is even he does not have Konkani listed as one of the languages he spoke fluently, despite the fact that he must have heard it spoken frequently around him. Here is a list of the languages he spoke: http://www.sirrichardfrancisburton.org/rfb_languages.html We do know that he had some knowledge of it because here and there, he translates words spoken by his cookboys. Burton learnt and knew to speak Marathi, closely related to Konkani. Burton believed that Konkani was a variant of Marathi. If you access the link it will say that he started learning his Portuguese from a Goan (not entirely true, he started practicing his Portuguese with this Goan). This was a priest that was stationed in Baroda. Because of his relationship with the priest, Burton's quarters in Baroda were nicknamed The Inquisition. Notice, he chose not to converse in Konkani with this priest but in Portuguese. And what is this baggage that he came with and how is it different to contemporary interests in a discussion relating to language? I challenge Frederick to tell me about
Re: [Goanet] Did Bob Marley know Konkani?
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- Selma, You will definitely find my assertion bizarre because your imagination forces you to fly-off on a tangent that leads to your commentary that is out of context. For starters let me remind you, this thread began about Bob Marley. I suggest you read my comments of Nov 3/11 again. And I quote As far as Konkani is concerned, many foreigners who lived in Goa from the late 1960s through mid 1980s spoke Konkani fluently. Of course, their children spoke better Konkani. Presently, foreigners' children are learning Konkani in our schools. Now tells us, was Richard Burton living in Goa from the late 1960s to the mid 1980s? Was he from the same era as Bob Marley? Konkani may be difficult for Europeans to master but not for those who lived in Goan villages continuously for over two decades and who spent 'all of their time with the locals.' Some foreigners married local girls and boys and thus became part of our society; obviously, they mastered Konkani through their spouses. Some even took tuitions in Roman script from the locals to improve their Konkani. Keep in mind Anjuna was the haven of hippies! There were some foreigners who gave up their citizenship and took up local jobs like breaking wood, plucking coconuts, collecting tisreo or cockles in the river, etc. These foreigners spent their evenings at tavernas chatting and sharing local gossip – only the color of their skin and eyes differentiated them from the locals - not Konkani language. Their accent might not be 100% Goan but that does not mean that they did not speak Konkani fluently. For that matter, even an Asian with a PhD in French may not produce the same accent as a French national but he surely can speak French fluently. Immediately after Goa’s liberation, many Goans learned Hindi by watching Hindi movies. Their accent was not perfect but that does not mean they could not speak Hindi fluently. Goans who worked in the Gulf, learned Arabic and used the language in their respective fields. Their accent may not meet Arabic standards but that does not mean they cannot speak Arabic fluently. As far as your assertion regarding Sir Richard Burton. He may have hired Goans as his personal valet or cookboys but I doubt he spent 'all of his time' with them to learn Konkani. Had he done that, perhaps he might have spoken Konkani fluently. Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna, Goa Mob: 9420979201 -Original Message- From: Carvalho I find the assertion that many foreigners...spoke Konkani fluently bizarre. Konkani like most Asian languages would be very difficult for Europeans to master. The wide range of phonetics required, which are not found in their own language, make it nearly impossible for them to vocalise them not to mention memorize them. Secondly, the syntax of the language is different from European syntax and it would take years of dedicated study under the supervision of a trained monshee to master it. Even Goans who live in Goa but predominantly speak in English, have a hard time then speaking in Konkani fluently. So the idea that many foreigners spoke it fluently is hyperbole at best. Even Sir Richard Burton who could speak many Indian languages did not have Konkani as one of the languages he spoke fluently. This despite the fact that he almost always hired Goans as his personal valet or cookboys because he thought they were far less trouble than other ethnicities. There is one letter from an acquaintance that says, he was heard speaking a mixture of Konkani and Portuguese with his Goanese servants. Best, Selma
