[Goanet-News] Goanet Reader: Understanding Portuguese writing from the Goa of another century (Eufemiano Miranda)
Understanding Portuguese writing from the Goa of another century Priest-scholar Dr Eufemiano Miranda, from Cortalim and now in the parish at Chicalim, explains how his recently- published book in Portuguese charts out the contours of Goan writing in that language. BOOK EXTRACT: By Eufemiano Miranda eufemianodejesusmira...@gmail.com or +91-832-2714005 This study attempts to be a humble step to take further prior surveys of Indo-Portuguese literature, namely the monographs by Vicente de Braganza Cunha (Bombay, 1926), Filinto Cristo Dias (Goa, 1963), Vimala Devi and Manuel de Seabra (Lisbon, 1971). It tries to analyse the content or themes of the literary works dealt with by Indo-Portuguese writers. The word literature is taken to mean literary productions of a creative nature or of fiction. Indo-Portuguese refers here to ethnically Indian writers in whom there is a harmonious confluence of European standards and motifs of local inspiration. Five themes are identified: (i) Brahmanism in conflict with Liberalism as embodied in Francisco Luis Gomes’ writings, principally his novel Os Brahamanes (ii) The world of landlords (batcaras) and tenants (mundkars) as reflected principally in Orlando Costa's O Signo da Ira (iii) The fascination with the mystery of Bharat-Mata (Mother India) (iv) The temple dancer of India (v) The land and her people as depicted in Gip's Jacob e Dulce and Agostinho Fernandes’ Bodki, themes that reflect the social history of Goa. The chapter Panorama da Vida Social de Goa nos Séculos XIX e XX aims at getting a bird's eye view of the socio-historical background of the 19th and 20th centuries and understanding the influence of the Portuguese presence in Goa on the formation of the homo goanensis. The scenario of education and learning, the establishment of the printing press and, as a result, the evolution of journalism and social life, are briefly examined. The Christian segment of the society, principally, as compared to the Hindu sector, went through a cultural separation. As a consequence of it, social customs and ideas of the converted were changed. The acculturation that took place in Goa could rightly be called a Luso-tropical civilization, to use the expression coined by Gilberto Freyre, the Brazilian sociologist-writer who visited Goa in the 1950s. Next comes 'Francisco Luís Gomes: O Bramanismo em Conflito com o Liberalismo'. The Constitution of 1822, that the Portuguese Parliament voted for after the Revolution of 1820, and the Constitutional charter of 1826, given by King Pedro IV to the nation and its overseas territories, were a concrete fallout of the Liberal ideas proclaimed by the American and French Revolutions. Francisco Luis Gomes of Navelim, a doctor by training and a member of Parliament, became the representative par excellence of Liberalism in Goa. In Parliament, he fought for freedom in his beloved Goa. His novel Os Brahamanes was born of his Liberalism coupled with his Romanticism, inspired by the Gospel and a vision faithful to the Portuguese nation. The novel portrays the dramatic conflict between the White and the wheat-complexioned Brahmanism superiority) or the two types of pride rooted in race and culture. The resolution or the moral of this conflict is found in the words that Francisco Luis Gomes puts in the mouth of his character Tomas: My victory will be the reform of all codes by the Gospel. This is followed by the chapter 'O Signo da Ira e o Mundo dos Batcarás e Manducares'. Goan society comprised of a class of landowners (batcaras) and another of rural labourers. The latter lived to serve the former. The small middle class comprising just around ten per cent. This social reality lends itself to fiction. Vimala Devi, Laxmanrao SarDessai and R.V. Pandit portrayed it in their short stories and poems. A work of high aesthetic value was Orlando Costa's O Signo da Ira, a masterpiece in Neo-Realism which earned its author the Ricardo Malheiros Prize in Portugal. Indian philosophy, religion and mythology are intertwined and form a living tradition. They are still very much part of the life, and society, where they were born and have blossomed. India's mystery and fascination lies in them. Our literature has been enriched with short stories and poems that reflect the philosophical tenets or hymns of praise to the gods, to their functions, or homage-portrayals of the great personalities of Indian history. In Indian society, particularly in Goa, there existed a woman taken to symbolise a contradiction: the temple dancer (kalavant). Over time, the devadasi, or servant of the gods, became a woman who sold herself. Historians and
[Goanet] Parivartan poosh: Govt pushes final RP deadline to March 2013
Govt pushes final RP deadline to March 2013 August 30, 2012 TEAM HERALD teamher...@herald-goa.com PANJIM: As the BJP government missed a second deadline to throw open the Regional Plan 2012 for public feedback, it pushed the final deadline for completing and notifying the plan to March 2013. For the second time now, Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar has missed yet another deadline over the issue, as his government continues to waver over seeking fresh public inputs on the plan. Successive meetings between officials of TCP department and Chief Minister failed to come to any conclusion on when to initiate the exercise to get public suggestions on the plan, without keeping it open for public scrutiny. Senior official from TCP told Herald that department has been holding series of meetings with Chief Minister, since last week to take a final call over RP. “But the meetings ended without any decision”, official said adding “it is for sure that government intends to seek general suggestions from people and organizations.” When contacted, Chief Town Planner S Putturaju said that government is yet to take any decision on the matter. “We have been holding meetings with Chief Minister but there has been no decision as yet. All the possibilities are been studied,” he remarked. Assuring that the new RP 21 would be completed by December 2012, Parrikar, in the recently concluded monsoon session of State Assembly had announced that the plan would be kept open for general suggestion for one month from August 15 to September 15. However, as government failed to honour its announcement, Parrikar on August 15 further extended the deadline to complete the plan and stated that exercise to seek general suggestion would begin from August 17, and continue till September 17. However, no decision has been taken in this respect, till date. http://www.heraldgoa.in/News/Local%20News/Govt-pushes-final-RP-deadline-to-March-2013/63817.html
[Goanet] Cupping Therapy / Massage Cupping
Is this like the Goan 'ventos' ? http://www.cuppingtherapy.org/pages/about.html
[Goanet] Soul of Art
SOUL OF ART
Patricia Ann Alvares
As architecture and heritage play out in perfect unison at the Portuguese
imprinted Latin quarter of Fontainhas, the inclusion of art is but natural
in such a setting. Envisioning this way back in 1988, connoisseur and avid
art collector, Ajit Sukhija first opened Gallery Gitanjali at his ancestral
home, Panjim Inn.
But the gallery remained low profile until the advent of daughter- in- law
Miriam Koshy- Sukhija in 2004. Allowed a free rein by Ajit and husband Jack,
Miriam gave it dimension, focus and form, turning it into one of the most
prolific and trendy art spaces in Goa. “ The idea is to provide a platform
for art education, as well as help people discover the artist within,” avows
Miriam, who has continually sought to engage artists and art lovers in a
series of interactive workshops and activities.
The Panjim Pousada ( 1997) and the Panjim People’s { Gallery Gitanjali} (
2004), which were roped in later, are today the main hub of these
activities.
WelcomHeritage Panjim Inn retains its repute as a heritage hotel.
Interestingly, all three are housed separately within a triangular hop from
each other.
Apart from its activities, the triune galleries are unique in their set up,
juxtaposed between the antique and the contemporary. The Panjim Inn has
retained most of its Portuguese influence with a few modern touches. The
Panjim Pousada has a striking open chowk with a double terracotta- tiled
roof in a square verandah encircling a raj aangan. Panjim People’s art space
occupies the ground floor of a colonial Portuguese house. A striking 6-feet
wooden carving of Ganesh stands in welcome posture at the entrance.
A café in the forepart of the gallery, where one can read art books or
listen to music of their choice while soaking the art and antiques around,
is irresistible to most visitors. Precisely chosen for this special quality,
it was designated as centre for discussions and lectures during the
erstwhile Fontainhas Festival of Art. It continues to be patronized for
private conferences till date.
A self- taught curator, Miriam’s MBA degree has held her in good stead as
she learnt the finer nuances of curating, organizing shows while locating
viable art markets. Tying up with Saffron Art Gallery Mumbai and with
inclusions in social media sites like Facebook and India Art Works, she has
nudged the gallery into an international arena.
Working on the premise of getting people to react and engage in art while
combing various forms of creativity with art, Miriam’s latest endeavour
Chitrangan-skills and techniques is an off-shoot of a successful alternative
art studio Chitrangan held last year. Similarly, Between the Lines, A
Happening: Kodel, Kutre ani Kinetic, What you see is what you get (
WYSIWYG), The art history club Zeitgeist and Picture This- art appreciation
course which are continual activities, have all received tremendous response
from the artists as well as art lovers. Imago: Exploring the language of
film and Temenos: The Film Study Circle, which had taken a hiatus after two
years are likely to be revived soon. “ Basically you get an idea of art in
all its forms and possibilities.
Art gives multiple permutations and combinations of what it can be. For that
matter, there is art everywhere.
Art is a touchstone to open peoples’ minds and make them see things
differently.
This was one of the aims of WYSIWYG,” explains Miriam.
With a flair for conducting art shows, Miriam has displayed various genres
of art at these galleries ranging from the realistic to figurative,
abstract, expressionist and more.
Renowned names like Mohan Naik, Rajshree Thakkar, Suhas Shilkar, Francis De
Souza, among others have been hosted here. Again, not all art shows have
conformed to the standard. In a departure from the normal, Iranian artist,
Sohela’s teamed her art exhibition with a dance performance titled “ Tribal
Wisdom”, followed by an art animation film based on her artworks.
Caving in to the call of the creative, Miriam recently debuted as an artist
with her installation Split Wide Open.
Toying with the idea of art residencies in the future, she also hopes to
have a continuous lecture series where people bring in perspectives not only
from India, but abroad as well.
As she broadens the horizon of art in Goa, Miriam continues to delve into
the soul of art. (ENDS)
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Goanet A-C-E!
Arts ~ Culture ~ Entertainment
Re: [Goanet] Goanet at 18 years
Dear Goanetters, Happy to know that Goanet has completed 18 years. It is very unfortunate that i have been cut off from the list of goanet and inspite of writing to you several letters no one seemo ts to be interested to do the needful. It is a easy process. Just unscribe and then after few days subscribe as a new member. I know for certain that there are some members who were behind deleting my name as they did not want to read my writings. any way no love lost albert de souza alizadeso...@hotmail.com
Re: [Goanet] Goanet at 18 years
well done keep up the good WORK Henry Pinto henpi...@yahoo.com From: Herman Carneiro Dear Goanetters, Today Goanet celebrates its 18th anniversary! It's a monumental achievement that we should all be very proud off. Thousands of people have been connected because of Goanet and many friendships have been forged. The network has served as an important platform to support the global Goan community. We've also been involved in supporting important issues such as empowering women through Goanet-Femnet and helping campaign to preserve Goa in conjunction with the Save Goa Campaign, UK. I hope it will continue to remain important well into the future.
Re: [Goanet] GOA SUDHAROP: The future is now and it is bright
I would still think that getting support from your grown-up, expat kids is one thing, and seeking funds collected by random others is quite another. On the other hand, a number of grown-up, expat kids also need to acknowledge that they've benefitted from a highly subsidised education back home -- paid for by the sweat, toil, blood and tears of the wider community, the victims of a lack of opportunity, or the taxpayer (cf. the Goan Scholars Scheme). Over the last many years, I've dealt with scores of expat Goans. Some have been more than helpful, others not so. But I would hate to have our equation judged in money or charity terms alone. My points are: (1) Building capacity in Goa itself is possibly much, much more important, though much tougher (2) While we have a lot to share with each other, it would be a pity if this were judged in cash terms alone (3) Many people in Goa itself are making their own contributions, though not necessarily in terms of a constantly-devalued Rupee (read: cash) (4) It is easy for someone half a world away and say people in Goa need to be more charitable and donate more towards their local causes. They have... over the generations, and have built immense social capital, which benefits everyone today... though their priorities might not exactly tally with your's. FN Cecil Pinto wrote: Please convey my congratulations to these young Goan women on their achievement. Many people complain that Goan events in the UK, USA and Canada are just song-and-dance events. I say that let them sing and dance as much they like if they are collecting funds for Goan causes back home. On 29 August 2012 06:05, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote: Frederick FN Noronha: That is my point too. Having to depend on the expat makes us feel more helpless than we should, and gives you the moral superiority in the bargain. It should be thanks, but no thanks. comment: Paranoia must be an art form or a subset of commie induced madness. For many parents, the sudden (multi-fold) increase of the cost of living necessitated the dependence on the son or daughter who traveled abroad and became the Expat or NRI. These seniors who had worked their whole life to educate their children, were indeed helpless after the sudden and expnential increase in the cost of basics. Only a daft person or the Fidalgo would expect these seniors to say Thanks but No Thanks. jc
[Goanet] Samsung Case Puts Apple Closer to Google Fight - NYTimes.com
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/28/technology/samsung-case-puts-apple-closer-to-fight-with-google.html?_r=1
Re: [Goanet] Flight booking online - Money goes out of bank instantly but comes back after 7-14 days?
Joe, even i was surprised why the bank would take so long, i guess they told you the extra time, just because sometimes things are not in their hands... i.e maybe they saw transaction was with Air India that it would take a long time to recover the amount from them but it was not as complicated as they expected so it was fast, they told you the LONG time so that you don't get upset if things don't happen within the correct time... or should i say they were buying time form you On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 04:23:22 +0530 wrote Update: today I took out the mini-Statement from the ATM machine. All money (no deduction) did come back in 72 hrs i.e. 3 days. What a relief! thanks aaron domnic dmello aaron_dmello @ rediffmail.com
[Goanet] PRESS CONFERENCE REG. CITIZEN CHARTER BILL REPORT
POINTS MADE BY SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK M.P., CHAIRMAN, STANDING COMMITTEE OF PERSONNEL, PUBLIC GRIEVANCES, LAW AND JUSTICE AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE IN PARLIAMENT HOUSE TODAY Standing Committee of Parliament of the Department of Personnel, Public grievances , Law and Justice, headed by its Chairman Shri Shantaram Naik M.P. in his report submitted today, in both the Houses of Parliament on The Right of Citizens for Time Bound Delivery of Goods and Services and Redressal of their Grievances Bill, 2011 (popularly called as Citizen Charter Bill) has recommended against providing any appeal against the decision of Central/State Commissions to Lokpal/Lokayukt, which is provided presently under the bill. DE-LINK THE BILL FROM LOKPAL/LOKAYUKT Addressing a press conference in Parliament House on Tuesday, Mr Naik said the Committee does not find much justification in providing for appeal with the Lokpal/Lokayukta against the decision of the Central/State Commission. Such a linkage, in Committee’s view, is unfounded as the institution of Lokpal has been set up under a different legislation aiming to put in place an anti corruption institution while the objective of the present Bill is to ensure timely delivery of goods/services and grievance redressal Besides, the Bill already provides for three levels of appeal up to the level of the Commission and , adding another level of appeal above the Commission level does not seem to be called for and hence has recommended the deletion of the provisions of the Bill which provide for preference of appeal to the Lokpal/Lokayukta against the decision of the Central/State Commissions. SERVICES OF SHORTEST NATURE Mr Naik said that different kinds of services will require different time-limit for compliance however rules that will be framed by the Central and State Governments may suitably provide for the shortest possible time for delivery of goods and services of common nature. VIOLATION OF LAW, POLICY, SCHEME WILL BE SUBJECT OF GRIEVANCE In the Committee’s view, the definition of the term ‘Complaint’ is comprehensive enough so as to cover not only the cases of failure to deliver goods or render services in accordance with the Citizens Charter but also cases where the Public Authority has violated any law, policy, scheme, order, etc. and it should be possible for the Public Authority to handle the same within the given parameters. The Committee is of the firm opinion that issues related to violation of law, policy, scheme, policy, etc are vital and the same cannot be kept outside the purview of the grievance redress mechanism. However, in case it is felt that such matters require some different time schedule for adjudication, the Ministry may examine the issue and provide appropriately in the Bill, report says. FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO THE STATES TO IMPLEMENT THE LAW Explaining the contents of the report further , Mr Naik said that the issue of meeting the financial requirements for the implementation of the Bill in respect of services in the States have to be addressed by the Central Government and the State Governments themselves. Services and goods are to be provided on time by the State Government in their respective departments. However since we are enacting a loaded legislation for them, it is the duty of the Central Government to share some financial burden in this regards lest, the law remains unenforceable, partly or otherwise, Mr Naik added while explaining Committee’s recommendations on this point. GOVERNMENT SHOULD CONSIDER GIVING BENEFIT OF THE LAW TO FOREIGN CITIZENS AS REGARDS SOME LIMITED SERVICES Mr Naik said that the Committee would like the Ministry to review whether the coverage of the Bill can be extended to the non citizens also. The Committee notes the written comments of the Ministry wherein they have said that they are open to suggestion in this regard. Government can consider notifying a few limited services and goods as regards non-citizens rather than totally excluding them. This may also help in establishing goodwill among with international community, report says. QUANTUM OF FINE ON ERRING PUBLIC SERVANTS Mr Naik said that Rs 50,000 is the upper limit of the penalty that can be imposed on the erring public servant under the bill. This being the maximum limit of the penalty and the actual penalty being based upon the facts and circumstances of the case, the Committee is not inclined to interfere in the quantum of penalty prescribed in the Bill. PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP IN FACILITATION CENTRES Mr Naik said that the Committee appreciates the concept of Information and Facilitation Centers envisaged in Chapter IV of the Bill and recommends to Government to consider adopting private-public partnership model in the case of these facilitation centers whereby some value added services could be added on nominal/moderate payment basis. Committee recommends that
Re: [Goanet] The future is now and it is bright
Helping one's community can take extreme forms sometimes. There was time when there was a dearth of qualified Goan professionals, engineers, teachers, etc. There were various state associations (comprising of people from other states in Goa) in Goa which had their members in various organizations. For example the Keralites dominated the teaching profession, electricity department etc, the Andhraites dominated the water department in the engineering side etc. These associations would advertise in their home states forthcoming vacancies in Government and facilitate people from their states to get the jobs. They would even offer financial assistance and arrange for things like ration cards and the like. There was a gentleman from Kerala who attended an interview in my school who although was not living in Goa, had an employment exchange card and also a ration card, courtesy of a 'cousin'. Are you wondering still how non-Goans proliferated in Government service? -- ** Tony de Sa tonydesa at gmail dot com **
Re: [Goanet] Goanet at 18 years
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Re: [Goanet] Goanet at 18 years
Hey Frederick Congrats to all you guys for keeping such a great thing going. Happy Birthday to you still techo teenyboppers one and all. cheers Mario Rodrigues majorod22 at yahoo.com --- On Mon, 8/27/12, Frederick FN Noronha wrote: Date: Monday, August 27, 2012, 3:40 PM rendering of the honeymoon wasn't taken to too kindly), and even named their kids GoaNet I and GoaNet II. That's how it used to be spelt in those days... and these are their middle-names only, so you probably wouldn't be able to cross-check my claim here!
[Goanet] Parivartan Shivers:Govt indecisive on Special Anti-Money Laundering Cell
Govt indecisive on Special Anti-Money Laundering Cell August 30, 2012 SHWETA KAMAT shw...@herald-goa.com PANJIM: Goa government is in a dilemma over the formation of Special Anti- Extortion and Anti-Money Laundering Cell, which is mandatory as a part of Union Government directives. Considering the fact that there is no mining-related extremism or naxalite activity in Goa, the State Government has not taken any decision as yet. The formation of a cell is basically to have a check on extortion and money laundering in the mining business which can foster a nexus between illegal mining and forest contractors breeding extremism in these areas. Directorate of Mines and Geology has moved a proposal to Chief Secretary and Home Ministry for setting up of such a cell for Goa. Union Mines Ministry’s Central Coordination-cum-Empowered Committee (CEC) on Mineral Development and Regulation, in its quarterly meeting held in June, 2012, has directed all state governments including Goa to formulate such cell, immediately. The state governments are being requested to immediately furnish information on the setting up of cell to the ministry. Director of Mines Prasanna Acharya told Herald that the matter which was referred to the department by Chief Secretary’s office has been sent to state home ministry for further action. “The cell has not been formed. The matter has been referred to state home ministry,” he added. However, the government is indecisive on whether to form or not to form the cell as there is no mining related extremism or naxalism in Goa. A source from Secretariat stated that the state government is yet to take its stand on forming such a cell. “We will have to see whether we really require such a cell considering that fact that there is no mining related extremism or naxalism,” a senior official said, refusing to get quoted. An official said that the matter would be referred to Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar, who will take a final call on the matter. “As far as we are concerned, the cell can be formed but we feel that it will have no work to do,” the official remarked. http://www.heraldgoa.in/News/Local%20News/Govt-indecisive-on-Special-Anti-Money-Laundering-Cell/63821.html
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[Goanet] Police force polio vaccine on Pakistani children - World - DNA
In India too? http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_police-force-polio-vaccine-on-pakistani-children_1720123
[Goanet] Computer use and moderate exercise reduce odds of memory loss - HealthPop - CBS News
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57425954-10391704/computer-use-and-moderate-exercise-reduce-odds-of-memory-loss/
[Goanet] SMILE............................ IT'S WEEKEND (30/08/2012)
YOU ARE... Forsu was jobless for almost a year, for which he had applied and given interviews in so many places but no luck. One fine day he got a call for the interview from a reputed company. Forsu went to face an Interviewer:- Interviewer: Could you tell me the difference between COMPLETE and FINISH? Forsu: Well Sir, both the words are almost same. Interviewer: Explain it to me. Forsu: Sir, can I clarify it with the example? Interviewer: Yes, go ahead. Forsu: When you marry a right person, you are COMPLETE and when you marry a wrong one, you are FINISH. Cajetan de Sanvordem Kuwait.
Re: [Goanet] goanet's 18th anniversary
Is Aug 26, as Herman says, is the founding date of goanet or September 17, according to Antonio Gomes, who notes in his two-part article on the mailing list that goanet was formally started on the 17th of September 1994.? Need to have one date to save the confusion. Eugene
[Goanet] Song for the day...
Manuel The Music of the Mountains - Yours [1961] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKBYupXixGgfeature=relmfu g -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
Re: [Goanet] goanet's 18th anniversary
Probably both :-) In many cases, with such initiatives, it's hard to say with precision when it was set up. Keep in mind that Goanet was just a cc'list (if I'm not wrong) in the initial stages. Later it started using mailing-lists software -- initially Listserv if I recall right. In some cases -- like the BytesForAll initiative which I was earlier initiated with -- I too don't have a clue as to when exactly it started. Its mailing list has the archives on Yahoogroups, but that was started after the ezine, which was its initial form. So I arbitrarily fixed July 1, 2001 as the founding date! More important than this, I'd say, is the task of trying to rebuild the lost archives from the early stages of the list. Some old timers have hinted that they've been keeping copies on their zipped drives, but no body (as yet) seems willing to share that. FN -- FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org Books from Goa,1556 http://scr.bi/Goa1556Books Audio recordings (mostly from Goa): http://bit.ly/GoaRecordings On 30 August 2012 12:32, Eugene Correia eugene.corr...@gmail.com wrote: Is Aug 26, as Herman says, is the founding date of goanet or September 17, according to Antonio Gomes, who notes in his two-part article on the mailing list that goanet was formally started on the 17th of September 1994.? Need to have one date to save the confusion.
[Goanet] Laadli Laxmi: Who the girl will give the money - Her father or Husband?
Laadli Laxmi: Who the girl will give the money - Her father or Husband? 1 minute.. Parrikar speaking http://youtu.be/JlsPCl3fulo joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] CM Parrikar Talks about..
CM Parrikar Talks about.. Konkani, Lipi Language, a medium of reaching people MOI Tiatr and Tiatrists His Personal Stress, BP Level His English speaking was like that of Taxi drivers, before joining IIT Queen’s English Mining Draft Plan (and Editors’ reaction) Press, News Editorial Many Goans, NRIs talk too much, have Vision but no Execution Laadli Laxmi Scheme Sainthood Xempemchi bhaji etc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMEXi559vL8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMEXi559vL8 btw, what's Xempemchi Bhaji? joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Creepy Times Hump Nosed pitviper
The Hump Nosed pitviper About two months ago I got a phone call from my collegue Vicky. He was bursting with excitement. ‘I have something very special for you’ was all he was willing to tell me. Vicky rescues many more snakes from people’s houses than I do and sometimes finds some very interesting specimens. The biggest Russell’s viper I have ever seen was caught by him some years ago. And this is despite him being about a foot shorter than me! The ‘eager beaver’ I am I wasted no time in getting to his house. Vicky had a smirk on his face when he presented me with a small plastic jar. I stared incredulously at the six inch long snake curled up within. It was the first time I was looking at a live Hump-nosed Pit Viper! As far as I knew Hump-nosed Pit Vipers were only found in deep jungles in the Western Ghats. ‘Where did you find this thing?’ I quizzed Vicky with amazement. ‘Given to me by a doctor’ replied Vicky pointing to the Goa Medical College right behind his house. As it turned out someone had been bitten by the tiny snake when placing his hand on a tree in a forest. Not knowing what snake it was the victim had captured it alive and brought it to the hospital for identification. The doctors not knowing what kind of snake it was had called up the only person they knew could identify it: Vicky! Vicky unfortunately hadn’t bothered to ask the doctor about the effects of the venom on the victim. I presume he survived though. Indian Pit Viper bites are rarely fatal. *Whitaker* and *Captain’s* book Snakes of India mentions the Hump-nosed Pit Viper to be nocturnal and terrestrial. The Hump-nosed feeds on geckos, skinks, small rodents, reptile eggs and frogs. Juveniles apparently wriggle their tails to lure prey closer to them. The Hump-nosed is an ovo-viviparous species giving birth to between 4 and 18 young which are born between March and September.
[Goanet] R FIGHTING CORRUPTIONe:
Alfred Tavares comments: I therefore call upon the Prime Minister of India, if he truly intends to rid India of corruption, to immediately appoint General Singh as Corruption Irradiation Commissioner. I am sure that with his Military background and his honesty and sincerity he will be able to take the necessary steps to form a task force capable of ridding India of corruption. Comment: How has the estimation of AF arrived at the conclusion that Gen Singh is honest bec' of his military background and .? Just a year ago the guys on goanet were issuing good character certificates to Anna and Team? Indfia is grappling with parivartan psychotics which is a disease ten times more fatal than corruption. -soter
[Goanet] From rags to riches.
From rags to riches-literally. They were rag-pickers scavenging for valuables from heaps of garbage. Or so everyone thought. But the three women were in fact picking their targets - locked-up houses --- which they later broke into and swept clean of valuables. Banashankari police who caught the three women were shocked to find in their possession of one kg gold and 750 grams silver ornaments worth Rs 40 lakh. More shock was in store for the police when they came to know that the accused had thrown away valuable diamonds into a drain mistaking them for ordinary stones, police said. The accused are Ammaiamma Srinivas alias Ammi, 30, of Gottigere Block, BG Road; Gayathri Venkatesh, 30, of Koli Farm gate, off Bannerghatta Road, and Kantamma Shiva, 30, of Udipalya New Colony, off Kanakapura Road. Banglore. With their arrest, police have solved five cases of house burglaries reported from Banashankari, Vijayanagar and Thyagarajanagar. The accused would loiter in residential areas and identify houses with locked doors. They would later enter the houses after breaking open the back doors. They used iron rods to unhinge the back doors, police said. DCP (South) Sonia Narang said the three women were picked up by plainclothesmen who found the trio loitering suspiciously in Jayanagar. Our crime staff had noticed that the three women never picked from the waste. They were found inspecting houses. We brought them to the police station and interrogated them. We then raided their houses and recovered the valuables, Sonia said. During interrogation, the accused told the police that they threw some 'stones' into drains. Actually they were diamonds, Sonia added.
Re: [Goanet] Anyone in Goa Tourism seen this?
A vertical line-up of 7 ipads and sleight-of-electronics, sure this can be done in Goa. The following 7 concepts will have to be presented to attract tourists: 1. Beauty of the landscape from mining. 2. Hi-tech dumping of casino boat waste into the Mandovi. 3. The Mapusa market on a Friday. 4. Russian and Hebrew welcomes in Morjim and Arambol. 5. Answering natures call on beaches to the music of the waves. 6. Easy ways to end lives in beautiful Goa - accidents, police brutality, the GMC at Bambolim, poisonous fish and many more. 7. Gift giving at election time. Move over, the Singapore concept, GTD. Roland. Original message Subject: [Goanet] Anyone in Goa Tourism seen this? From: Wendell Rodricks goanet.refor...@bell.net To: Goanet goa...@goanet.org CC: Are there any Goans who can pull this sleight of hand magic and loaded iPads? Come on Goa time to go HiTech The city of Stockholm asked an Advertising agency to develop a presentation about the city. Click on the link below to see this excellent creative and innovative hi-tech presentation. http://bit.ly/GT6c4K Wendell Rodricks wendellrodricks at gmail.com
Re: [Goanet] Goanet's 18th anniversary
With due respect to your explanation, I suggest the admin team come to select one date. Best to go with with Sept 17, as it was formally launched. Researchers can mention its initial start as a group of friends coming together and setting the ball rolling on Aug 25 or 26. Checking the archives, I found that Cecil Pinto had raised the same issue of two dates. Here is the thread from 2003, = [Goanet]Re: GoaNet origins - no simple answers? Bosco D'Mello bospam at canada.com Thu Aug 28 12:20:08 PDT 2003 Previous message: [Goanet]Nigerian scams Next message: [Goanet]Re: GoaNet origins - no simple answers? Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:28:32 +0530, Cecil Pinto cpinto at sancharnet.in wrote: Tariq Siddiqui wrote.. This seems to be a mystery on par with the Loch Ness monster or the Bermuda triangle. Cecil Pinto wrote.. When every other topic under the sun is being minutely dissected here how come nobody wants to clarify how and when EXACTLY was GoaNet formed and by WHO? +++ Obviously those in the know and those who don't know have no interest in the topic. Alluding to Luiza's (I think) thoughts on food...we want the debate, not the history. Nevertheless coming back to your questions..I have no straightforward or crooked-backward answers ;-) Three simple questions. How come nobody can give a straightforward answer? -- - Was Goa-Net really the first 'Internet Initiative' ? +++ Initiative at what ??? How would you or anybody else know and verify that I had not started a similar venture back in 1969 that was hosted by DARPA. - How come Fred and Herman celebrated 9 years of GoaNet on 25th August if it was started on 17th September? +++ Hey !! All of us celebrated on August 25th. If Herman said it's August 25th, I guess nobody can say otherwise. - Did Herman start it alone? +++ Now you're getting into mind-games;-) You don't suppose he was emailing himself for a while, eh ?? If there were others, they either don't want the credit or have already received the kudos - privately !! OK Cecil.I'll back-off.chuckle-chuckle.Have a nice day !! Best wishes - Bosco PSyour subject line may drive some Goanet believers into agnostics !! ;-) == Goanetters, specially those who are new and those who may have forgotten about it, can judge from the thread how an admin team member dismisses it in his characteristic nonchalant manner. Eugene
[Goanet] Fwd: Aldona Association Education Awards
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[Goanet] SOUL OF ART
More than 2 decades ago this Ajit Sukhija genero of Jack Sequeira was complaining about the Portuguese. Atam podhoi, soglem pothem zalem. BC As architecture and heritage play out in perfect unison at the Portuguese imprinted Latin quarter of Fontainhas, the inclusion of art is but natural in such a setting. Envisioning this way back in 1988, connoisseur and avid art collector, Ajit Sukhija first opened Gallery Gitanjali at his ancestral home, Panjim Inn. But the gallery remained low profile until the advent of daughter- in- law Miriam Koshy- Sukhija in 2004. Allowed a free rein by Ajit and husband Jack, Miriam gave it dimension, focus and form, turning it into one of the most prolific and trendy art spaces in Goa. ? The idea is to provide a platform for art education, as well as help people discover the artist within,? avows Miriam, who has continually sought to engage artists and art lovers in a series of interactive workshops and activities.
[Goanet] As Hai hai
why do you raise hue and cry when non goans do business ? As a young girl I used to work in the fields. We used to have lot of paddy at home and we ate like Maharajas. Dad and my elder brother would go fishing in ponds during the monsoons and sometimes we had such a lot of fish and enjoyed fresh fish curry and rice. We also grew lot of vegetables around our compound . Like wise every boy and girl kept up their family profession. In my neighbour hood the girls used to help their father, uncles brothers at the general store shop. After the monsoons most of the boys in the village would gather and make a football ground and play every evening. We girls had our own games. We had goan blacksmiths, gold smith, carpentars, . The son of a carpentar would learn the trade from his father and when he could not continue with his studies became a carpentar. Sometimes those studying also helped their father at home with carpentar. The cobler's son also learnt the trade of his father and did not feel shy to mend the shoe. That was the art. We had goan cooks etc. Today the government wants everyone to be educated and we have become educated fools. Young boys no longer play football in the fields. They play on the computer. Many goans have migrated to Eureopean countries only to gain dignity. They come over here and they treat us as second class citizens. Some of our goans have gone to Bangalore, Bombay, Chennai, Hyderbad, Poona because they can get a better job. Parents prefer to have a 21 year old ghadda in the seventh standard rather than send him for some technical course. Those who have professional trade as cooks, coblers or even shopkeepers do not want their children to continue their trade and so the trade has to be stopped or leased out. Why grumble ? we ourselves are to be blamed.
[Goanet] The future is now and it is bright
No question is asked about the dearth of qualifed professionals. Arre baba after 61 sogleh Gone with the Wind after the bharati takeover. BC Helping one's community can take extreme forms sometimes. There was time when there was a dearth of qualified Goan professionals, engineers, teachers, etc.
Re: [Goanet] reply to Tony De s (floriano)
Tony De Sa may project himself as the most knowledgeable etc. But the fact is that he hardly uses his God Given brains and GOES WITH THE WIND. Thank God for small mercies that you admit that I have God Given brains because you try to project that you and your Goa sur are the sole repositoris of knowledge in this world. Perhaps there is a 'road map' for this? As for going with the wind, wind bag that you are you spout it at both ends. -- ** Tony de Sa tonydesa at gmail dot com **
[Goanet] half marathon race
half marathon race Union of Chinchinim Villageers, organised for the first time First all Goa Half Marathon, on !5 August, 2012, at Chinchinim. It was conducted very successfully. It was flagged off by Benjamin Silva, MLA , Velim Constituency Starting from Chinchinim, it wended its way to Assolna, Velim, Tolleacanto, Combiabhat, Murida, Panjrcon Cuncolim , back to Chinchinim. There were 64 participants and it was the first such activity for Chinchinim Village and first for the Union The prizes of Rs 5000=, Rs 3000=, Rs 2000, for the first three competitors The Prizes were donated by Mr Tony Dias, Dandeavaddo, presently based in USA The winnersare as follows: 1 Clemente Francis Paroda ( Firebrigade employee) 2 Prashant Gaonkar 3 MichaelGabarson The Union of Chinchinim Villages recently organised 3 successful soccer tournaments, on the Church grounds The Union participates in many local soccer tournaments, thereby ,encouraging spotting of football talent in Chincjhinim Village .In recognition of their sporting activities, the Govt. has sanctioned a grant of Rs 75000= Sirlim Club also conducted their successful annual soccer touranment on the same venue. The Govt. has also promised them a grant of Rs 75000= Lalush Alvernaz inter school under 14 soccer tournament was also held at Chinchinim Church grounds Nelson Lopes Chinchinim
[Goanet] India's rich take to luxury cars...
Thanks for this link Gabe. I wrote a small blog entry on account of it. Other than an image of my drawings, the rest of the blog post is copied below. http://venantiusjpinto.blogspot.com/2012/08/its-us-only-about-us.html +++ ...says a lot about us Indians: not to mean only the super-rich Indians who have their ways of feeling powerful alongside the brands on offer. Theirs is also not about buying to celebrate the superior engineering or even aesthetics — hard as this may be to believe. I mean those on the lower rungs who are enamored with the idea of brand, the possibility that something is there for the having. That feeling of being suffused and thrilled on being able to feel and feel more desire. What is this willingness to pay double and triple for cars which would leave many others wealthy individuals from outside India do a double take? As I recently mentioned to a very, very wealthy Indian visitor to NY: How is it that one can buy an expensive car, with %139 Import Tax, and other tariffs (in the past it was 350%), but have serious reservations of giving a *well deserved* Rs. 500 raise to the driver. Rs. 500 is about $10, but should not be seen in Western terms although it not a lot. I was met with complete silence, suggesting a surprise on the part of this individual at having encountered someone who was alien to their cultural creed. There are many such examples. + venantius j pinto To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] India's rich take to luxury cars... India's rich take to luxury cars Aug 28 2012 Mumbai bureau chief James Crabtree takes a test ride on an Aston Martin, the latest luxury car entrant to the Indian market. He ponders why India's rich will buy cars like these despite a hefty price tag and the often poor state of roads. (2m 14sec) http://video.ft.com/v/1810689908001/India-s-rich-take-to-luxury-cars -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
Re: [Goanet] As Hai hai
Is this a plea for freezing the social structure in Goa as it was? Even though I do not support the outright loot of resources and nature that goes on in the name of social change in today's Goa, many a times there is a lot of conservatism encoded in our Save Goa pleas... FN On 30 August 2012 21:14, Ana Maria Fernandes amferns_n...@hotmail.com wrote: The son of a carpentar would learn the trade from his father and when he could not continue with his studies became a carpentar. Sometimes those studying also helped their father at home with carpentar. The cobler's son also learnt the trade of his father and did not feel shy to mend the shoe. That was the art. We had goan cooks etc.
Re: [Goanet] Goanet's 18th anniversary
Apologies for the immediately preceding 'blank response' email. I submit the following: 1: it is not very important to know the exact birthdate of Goa Net Unless it is applying for an EU passport. 2: suffice it to recognize that the hard work of a few moderators and members, has kept it vibrant and going for a good number of years. 3: even the Queen ER II celebrates her birthday on a day which is not really her birthday. 4: if researchers take Eugene's advice it will get a little complicated. 5: how does one research the original date of posting on the Bulletin board known as Goanet ( I believe, and I could be wrong) which was started for young Goans to meet sweeties? 6: IF one really researches when this present avatar of Goanet started, one would have to look to the year 1997 or thereabouts. But Let us not caught up in minutia; let's commend the moderators and participants for the hard work, and suggest that moderators try to be equitable and fair, and participants NOT use foul language or involve the family of members (ESP those who are not in a position to respond). jc Pardon any Typos. This IPad does some curious auto- corrections On Aug 30, 2012, at 9:40 AM, Eugene Correia eugene.corr...@gmail.com wrote: With due respect to your explanation, I suggest the admin team come to select one date. Best to go with with Sept 17, as it was formally launched. Researchers can mention its initial start as a group of friends coming together and setting the ball rolling on Aug 25 or 26. Checking the archives, I found that Cecil Pinto had raised the same issue of two dates. Here is the thread from 2003, = [Goanet]Re: GoaNet origins - no simple answers? Bosco D'Mello bospam at canada.com Thu Aug 28 12:20:08 PDT 2003 Previous message: [Goanet]Nigerian scams Next message: [Goanet]Re: GoaNet origins - no simple answers? Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:28:32 +0530, Cecil Pinto cpinto at sancharnet.in wrote: Tariq Siddiqui wrote.. This seems to be a mystery on par with the Loch Ness monster or the Bermuda triangle. Cecil Pinto wrote.. When every other topic under the sun is being minutely dissected here how come nobody wants to clarify how and when EXACTLY was GoaNet formed and by WHO? +++ Obviously those in the know and those who don't know have no interest in the topic. Alluding to Luiza's (I think) thoughts on food...we want the debate, not the history. Nevertheless coming back to your questions..I have no straightforward or crooked-backward answers ;-) Three simple questions. How come nobody can give a straightforward answer? -- - Was Goa-Net really the first 'Internet Initiative' ? +++ Initiative at what ??? How would you or anybody else know and verify that I had not started a similar venture back in 1969 that was hosted by DARPA. - How come Fred and Herman celebrated 9 years of GoaNet on 25th August if it was started on 17th September? +++ Hey !! All of us celebrated on August 25th. If Herman said it's August 25th, I guess nobody can say otherwise. - Did Herman start it alone? +++ Now you're getting into mind-games;-) You don't suppose he was emailing himself for a while, eh ?? If there were others, they either don't want the credit or have already received the kudos - privately !! OK Cecil.I'll back-off.chuckle-chuckle.Have a nice day !! Best wishes - Bosco PSyour subject line may drive some Goanet believers into agnostics !! ;-) == Goanetters, specially those who are new and those who may have forgotten about it, can judge from the thread how an admin team member dismisses it in his characteristic nonchalant manner. Eugene
Re: [Goanet] As Hai hai
Frederick seems to present a false choice - one does not have to chose between two evils: 1. the modern day rape of Goa and the theft and destruction of its mining and real-estate resources. 2. the problems with the historic social tructure of Goa which continues today. Both needed to be addressed and fixed. George --- On Thu, 8/30/12, Frederick FN Noronha wrote: Is this a plea for freezing the social structure in Goa as it was? Even though I do not support the outright loot of resources and nature that goes on in the name of social change in today's Goa, many a times there is a lot of conservatism encoded in our Save Goa pleas... FN
Re: [Goanet] As Hai hai
And what's wrong with conservatism in the right situations. Roland. Original message Subject: Re: [Goanet] As Hai hai From: Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoro...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org CC: Is this a plea for freezing the social structure in Goa as it was? Even though I do not support the outright loot of resources and nature that goes on in the name of social change in today's Goa, many a times there is a lot of conservatism encoded in our Save Goa pleas... FN On 30 August 2012 21:14, Ana Maria Fernandes amferns_n...@hotmail.com wrote: The son of a carpentar would learn the trade from his father and when he could not continue with his studies became a carpentar. Sometimes those studying also helped their father at home with carpentar. The cobler's son also learnt the trade of his father and did not feel shy to mend the shoe. That was the art. We had goan cooks etc.
Re: [Goanet] As Hai hai
Where's the question of a choice? I'm suggesting we reject both (the outright loot *and* the conservatism which romanticises even the negatives of the past) ... and not fall for one or the other. FN On 30 August 2012 23:32, George Pinto georgejpi...@yahoo.com wrote: Frederick seems to present a false choice - one does not have to chose between two evils: 1. the modern day rape of Goa and the theft and destruction of its mining and real-estate resources. 2. the problems with the historic social tructure of Goa which continues today. Both needed to be addressed and fixed.
[Goanet] Goanet Reader: Understanding Portuguese writing from the Goa of another century (Eufemiano Miranda)
Understanding Portuguese writing from the Goa of another century Priest-scholar Dr Eufemiano Miranda, from Cortalim and now in the parish at Chicalim, explains how his recently- published book in Portuguese charts out the contours of Goan writing in that language. BOOK EXTRACT: By Eufemiano Miranda eufemianodejesusmira...@gmail.com or +91-832-2714005 This study attempts to be a humble step to take further prior surveys of Indo-Portuguese literature, namely the monographs by Vicente de Braganza Cunha (Bombay, 1926), Filinto Cristo Dias (Goa, 1963), Vimala Devi and Manuel de Seabra (Lisbon, 1971). It tries to analyse the content or themes of the literary works dealt with by Indo-Portuguese writers. The word literature is taken to mean literary productions of a creative nature or of fiction. Indo-Portuguese refers here to ethnically Indian writers in whom there is a harmonious confluence of European standards and motifs of local inspiration. Five themes are identified: (i) Brahmanism in conflict with Liberalism as embodied in Francisco Luis Gomes’ writings, principally his novel Os Brahamanes (ii) The world of landlords (batcaras) and tenants (mundkars) as reflected principally in Orlando Costa's O Signo da Ira (iii) The fascination with the mystery of Bharat-Mata (Mother India) (iv) The temple dancer of India (v) The land and her people as depicted in Gip's Jacob e Dulce and Agostinho Fernandes’ Bodki, themes that reflect the social history of Goa. The chapter Panorama da Vida Social de Goa nos Séculos XIX e XX aims at getting a bird's eye view of the socio-historical background of the 19th and 20th centuries and understanding the influence of the Portuguese presence in Goa on the formation of the homo goanensis. The scenario of education and learning, the establishment of the printing press and, as a result, the evolution of journalism and social life, are briefly examined. The Christian segment of the society, principally, as compared to the Hindu sector, went through a cultural separation. As a consequence of it, social customs and ideas of the converted were changed. The acculturation that took place in Goa could rightly be called a Luso-tropical civilization, to use the expression coined by Gilberto Freyre, the Brazilian sociologist-writer who visited Goa in the 1950s. Next comes 'Francisco Luís Gomes: O Bramanismo em Conflito com o Liberalismo'. The Constitution of 1822, that the Portuguese Parliament voted for after the Revolution of 1820, and the Constitutional charter of 1826, given by King Pedro IV to the nation and its overseas territories, were a concrete fallout of the Liberal ideas proclaimed by the American and French Revolutions. Francisco Luis Gomes of Navelim, a doctor by training and a member of Parliament, became the representative par excellence of Liberalism in Goa. In Parliament, he fought for freedom in his beloved Goa. His novel Os Brahamanes was born of his Liberalism coupled with his Romanticism, inspired by the Gospel and a vision faithful to the Portuguese nation. The novel portrays the dramatic conflict between the White and the wheat-complexioned Brahmanism superiority) or the two types of pride rooted in race and culture. The resolution or the moral of this conflict is found in the words that Francisco Luis Gomes puts in the mouth of his character Tomas: My victory will be the reform of all codes by the Gospel. This is followed by the chapter 'O Signo da Ira e o Mundo dos Batcarás e Manducares'. Goan society comprised of a class of landowners (batcaras) and another of rural labourers. The latter lived to serve the former. The small middle class comprising just around ten per cent. This social reality lends itself to fiction. Vimala Devi, Laxmanrao SarDessai and R.V. Pandit portrayed it in their short stories and poems. A work of high aesthetic value was Orlando Costa's O Signo da Ira, a masterpiece in Neo-Realism which earned its author the Ricardo Malheiros Prize in Portugal. Indian philosophy, religion and mythology are intertwined and form a living tradition. They are still very much part of the life, and society, where they were born and have blossomed. India's mystery and fascination lies in them. Our literature has been enriched with short stories and poems that reflect the philosophical tenets or hymns of praise to the gods, to their functions, or homage-portrayals of the great personalities of Indian history. In Indian society, particularly in Goa, there existed a woman taken to symbolise a contradiction: the temple dancer (kalavant). Over time, the devadasi, or servant of the gods, became a woman who sold herself. Historians and
[Goanet] R FIGHTING CORRUPTIONe:
Soter Writes: Comment: How has the estimation of AF arrived at the conclusion that Gen Singh is honest bec' of his military background and .? Just a year ago the guys on goanet were issuing good character certificates to Anna and Team? Indfia is grappling with parivartan psychotics which is a disease ten times more fatal than corruption. -soter At Least by reputation, General Singh, not being a politician, and an Army Man, who has at least the reputation for fighting corruption in the Army, has better credentials than Anna and Team. Therefore, we should give him the benefit of the doubt. Aree Soter, We know that India suffers from various social diseases, but none as wide spread and rampant as corruption. Let us therefore tackle this one first and after success in this field, we can move on to try and eliminate others. Manuel (Eddie) Tavares.
[Goanet] Subject: hang Hjmal Kasab
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:18:00 +0530 From: Nelson Lopes nellope...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] hang Ajmal Kasab Message-ID: cajp2+q1kr0up7wvaeqr1-otygchueyeuuxl4dempj4f5tpi...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Ajmal Kasab sentenced The problem here is, in Pak, there are minorities, Hindus, Sikhs and Christians, what if for one life of Kasab, several lives are lost in Pak in retaliation? The govt has to be prudent in this case. MD
[Goanet] Off topic: Republicans to discuss return to gold standard at convention
Thanks Bosco / Admin Team for notifying us about the possible loss of postings due to GoaNet maintenace work. My post never made it, so I am sending it once again. This message bounced back during its second transmission. Third attempt ... Here are a few thoughts: 1. A major jump in gold prices is directly proportional to the amount of monetory easying the US Fed is going to introduce. Personally, I do not see this happening. Which most probably means, gold has seen better days. 2. Even if the Republicans bring up the issue of gold standard at its convention - it does not mean a thing - other than standard pep talk. Given that Romney is their candidate to take on the incumbent, I believe they have minimal chance of taking over the White House. Had they put up a more formidable candidate, their chances of success would have been a lot higher. 3. I see Romney as a weak and greedy candidate. Most of us are paying about 13% in taxes just to cover Social Security and Medicare taxes (Employer + Employee components - this tax is expected to go up 2 percentage points next year) and additional double digit in Federal taxes. I am not even including State taxes in my arguments, which I am sure, Romney pays too. But what pisses me off, is the fact that, he is happy to pay some 14% in Federal taxes, while we pay much-much more (in percentage terms of our earnings). I think this is a loop hole the Republicans are fighting to protect. If I am allowed to pay the same 14% in Federal taxes and no Social Security Medicare taxes, I'd embrace Republican policies in a jiffy. However, I am awaiting to hear more from the horses mouth himself - later at the convention. In the meantime, you may be interested in reading how Romney made his millions. While this story appears a bit one sided, nobody seems to dispute the facts. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-15/romney-s-bain-yielded-private-gains-socialized-losses.html Happy gold digging! Jim F New York. --- On Mon, 8/27/12, Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca wrote: ... ... Jim F, Since you are one of the few people here who is interested in the future, I have a question to ask: Will the price of gold go up or down should the US revert to the gold standard? There is a lot, a lot of money for you and me to make now that the Republicans are re-visiting the gold standard. ML05 1833EST
[Goanet] Fw: UPDATE: Protests rail against Vedanta's AGM - 2nd try
PROTESTS RAIL AGAINST VEDANTA'S AGM IN LONDON, INDIA AND ZAMBIA... AND GOA TOO A group from the Save Goa Campaign carried banners showing toxic mine waste floods caused by Vedanta subsidiary Sesa Goa. They called for the British Government to help stop illegal mining by Vedanta and others, as recommended by the Early Day Motion scheduled by John McDonnell MP who also attended the demo. -- Folks, I extend my congratulations to all involved. All! From the people in Goa who decided to take a stand, to the people in the UK who protested at the AGM, to those of Goan origin all over the world who sent in their support. This is an example of what can be done with just a little cooperation. ML09 1858EST
Re: [Goanet] Subject: hang Hjmal Kasab
I am opposed to the very being of the Death Penalty. In this specific case, there is an additional issue - as indicated by MD. A hornet's nest is best left ..unless . There is enough trouble among people in the name of religion. Time to find some peaceful means of negating the extreme forces. jc Pardon any Typos. This IPad does some curious auto- corrections On Aug 30, 2012, at 5:49 PM, MD mmdme...@gmail.com wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:18:00 +0530 From: Nelson Lopes nellope...@gmail.com Subject: [Goanet] hang Ajmal Kasab MD wrote: The problem here is, in Pak, there are minorities, Hindus, Sikhs and Christians, what if for one life of Kasab, several lives are lost in Pak in retaliation? The govt has to be prudent in this case. MD
[Goanet] Goa news for August 31, 2012
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Sesa admits to causing pollution in Goa village - New York Daily News 7PXlyg http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHHbA4fHlUr8LtEr4UoH4fIG6TTqAurl=http://india.nydailynews.com/business/25a6b60ea004a01216e389ab7d1a17bf/sesa-admits-to-causing-pollution-in-goa-village *** Two Goa mines to shut down operations - TwoCircles.net ast iron ore mines operating within a short distance of a wildlife sanctuary in Goa have been asked to shut down operations by the union ministry for environment and forests. The ministry Wednesday issued notices to the two mining ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGT4Ep71yQ5akcYWh5_uZyrEwxIwgurl=http://twocircles.net/2012aug30/two_goa_mines_shut_down_operations.html *** Chennai student arrested in Goa for possessing drugs - TwoCircles.net boYUmQ4kCA-XqRZsmuacqg http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFnhGRSCbcKpms-SUvGDB4SE4P54gurl=http://twocircles.net/2012aug30/chennai_student_arrested_goa_possessing_drugs.html *** Brokerages initiate overweight on Sesa Goa, downgrade Sterlite Industries - Economic Times ased investment banking firm KimEng, on the other hand, has downgraded Sterlite Industries to 'sell' from ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHRB-PV8CbcvCvfUAQs086hbatnJwurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/stocks/stocks-in-news/brokerages-initiate-overweight-on-sesa-goa-downgrade-sterlite-industries/articleshow/15997510.cms *** 'Goa's Chanakya helping mining, casino lobby' - Daily Pioneer riendly Parrikar is like Chanakya: Congress http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHNRfWotcirrE01BBd2ukoLALI5fAurl=http://dailypioneer.com/nation/91156-goas-chanakya-helping-mining-casino-lobby.html *** Benefica may soon play with Goa soccer team - New York Daily News ortuguese cultural exchange. Organisers of the Semana da Cultura Indo Portuguesa have said an ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHo_3C0NpoBpiPpNs0qDAajlYPzwAurl=http://india.nydailynews.com/business/c591af15ddb258ec3f0715c36581aafc/benefica-may-soon-play-with-goa-soccer-team *** Goa BJP urges probe into previous government's recruitments - IBNLive.com NLive.comGoa BJP urges probe into previous government's recruitments. PTI http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFZBUUafORPUpmzy5Fls4YuyEcRrAurl=http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/goa-bjp-urges-probe-into-previous-governments-recruitments/1053817.html *** Goa police submits documents on politician-drug peddler nexus - IBNLive.com e80vdBoJQEOefuW-0w_Qc6S1A http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEC7KcIp3gzRk8j34rKEeflexvDFwurl=http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/goa-police-submits-documents-on-politiciandrug-peddler-nexus/1053994.html *** Delhi ignoring Goa on kerosene issue: Minister - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: Goa minister for civil supplies Dayanand Mandrekar has expressed hurt and disappointment with Union minister for petroleum and natural gas, Jaipal Reddy, for repeatedly denying him an appointment despite many requests. Mandrekar wanted to ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEfsX6WYpPY6LxmULGsog7ZtFfN4gurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Delhi-ignoring-Goa-on-kerosene-issue-Minister/articleshow/16028370.cms *** Goa government to provide affordable housing to weaker sections of society - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: The Goa government has published an expression of interest for empanelment of eligible consultants for implementing the government scheme to provide affordable housing to different sections of society. Official sources in the department of ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEK0jsrFnHmw1iXzO85oKH1I-HNUAurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-government-to-provide-affordable-housing-to-weaker-sections-of-society/articleshow/16004024.cms Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
Re: [Goanet] ON REPLY'S TO GOANET
floriano wrote: Tony De Sa may project himself as the most knowledgeable etc. But the fact is that he hardly uses his God Given brains and GOES WITH THE WIND. I know this because I have been his class-mate and more. And we are both MOIDEKARS. Folks, I feel that the above is one of the main reasons why so few people post on this forum. Instead of making comments on the subject, Floriano chooses the lazier way and directly attacks the author. Then he throws in a blanket suggestion. A few days ago, he also made a comment on a different subject about, cracking this guy's brains. I have being saying this for years and I will say it one more time, the reason there is a dearth of posters here is because posting on Goanet exposes the poster to personal attacks. The lack of wider input makes all of us poorer. ML10 1920EST
[Goanet] Vishen Lakhiani on MindValley, interview for CNBC Asia - YouTube
Heard of Vishen Lakhiani? Listen to him here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VXnFR5r9GQ
[Goanet] Fw: (HD 720p) RH - South Pacific, Younger Than Springtime - YouTube
We have a daily 'song of the day' from Gabe Why not a weekend stage musical song of yesteryear? Remember South Pacific A song here from that show...Enjoy your weekend. Subject: (HD 720p) RH - South Pacific, Younger Than Springtime - YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKnlF2bjPBcfeature=related
[Goanet] Subject: India's rich take to luxury cars...
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 13:25:16 -0400 From: Venantius J Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] India's rich take to luxury cars... Message-ID: caoy3ljnd9rzzk1jue-7yupbswohpmhk-mtttwvfoxuzzuql...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 News: Toronto based Conquest Vehicles Inc. has launched 'Evade', the company’s first unarmoured SUV in India. With prices starting from Rs.8.5 crores, including duties. It is India’s costliest. This fully loaded SUV is offered in 4X4 (four wheel drive) and is available with either a gasoline or diesel engine and equipped with FLIR night vision camera systems in the front and rear of the vehicle. www.WeeklyVoice.com
[Goanet] What's 'Xempenchi Bhaji' ?
What's Xempenchi Bhaji' ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0Q6SSXuYAU 1 minute clip only also includes last few seconds missing part of Parrikar speech Depsite posting it to several net forum, no one seems to know. I am sure, there must be bhanji called 'xempo' or Xempechi bhaji. We be we call it diffrently or by other name joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Mining leases
It is surprising that the Congress party seems to be infected with the virus of wisdom only when they are out of power. One really needs to ask them why they are today demanding annual mining leases. Just as why Eduardo Faleiro realized the danger of Russian and Israeli tourists only now. A larger issues. One of my friends in the mining industry tells me that the annual lease renewal will only encourage fly-by-night operators who are the real culprits of the mess that we see today. He says that mining plans are a long-term one, since it is necessary to mix the good quality ore with lesser quality so as to extend the life of the mines. If only good quality ore is produced, then the lesser quality will not have a market tomorrow. Also, the investment in mining cannot be recovered in one year. Does anyone know whether there is any country which lets out mining leases only for one year? Best regards, U. G. Barad
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (31Aug12)
~ Large Scale Mining Killing Goascape ~ Why are most Miners Heartless... Probably all have done Heart Transplants To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org
[Goanet] Ethics in Photographs publishing in local dailies
[Goanet] Ethics in Photographs publishing in local dailies Ref my abv subject post earlier.. Here are some latest pics to show Photography does not always mean what it says I mean ‘dista toxem nasta’ CM wasn’t sleeping http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextra4/7897732768/in/photostream/ 4 frames per second – we talked about http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextra4/7897741940/in/photostream joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] Fighting Corruption
Corruption is so ingrained in the Indian mind-set, including Goa, that I doubt it will be ever erradicated under our free-wheeling democracy. I have observed with chagrin over the past decade that I have lived in India that corruption exists from the highest levels of Government to the lowest levels. No amount of platititudes, hunger strikes, disruption of Parliament etc. will erradicate this vice, as it cuts across all parties. Only a heavy handed dictatorial regime with the death penalty perhaps will take care of the problem.
