[Goanet] Selma's Book INTO THE DIASPORA WILDERNESS launched in Goa today
I have yet to see it on amazon.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Now available in Toronto, a few copies of *Into The Diaspora Wilderness* by Selma Carvalho. Contact Bosco D'Mello bo...@goanet.org (416) 803-7264 http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/
[Goanet] Selma's Book INTO THE DIASPORA WILDERNESS launched in Goa today
Pandu Lampiaum: What do you mean he is doing a good job - he showing dirty Ponje all the time,NO? He should go with a stick after them. OR a water canon after Manohar (to wake him up from his sleep) OK I will thank him (he deserves it) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Now available in Toronto, a few copies of *Into The Diaspora Wilderness* by Selma Carvalho. Contact Bosco D'Mello bo...@goanet.org (416) 803-7264 http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/
[Goanet] All religions cannot be equal
*As a secular pluralist, I believe that one's religious views are* *his/her own problem, as long as they do not cause harm to humanity. * What if Religion DOES harm society and humanity? As is in Somalia, Indonesia, the poor north part of Nigeria, etc (with the exception of help with petrol $ countries) To know about that religion one simply has to visit www.wikiislam.net Some knowledge is better than no knowledge, and Santosh will then stop repeating to keep Fr Ivo happy. = For Fr Ivo said: Let Santosh not repeat the blunder again and again...
[Goanet] JULIA ROBERTS BECOMES A HINDU BUT WHAT IS HER CASTE?
PAKLEM BAMON
[Goanet] Tarvotteanchim bondolam
I DID NOT QUESTION BANKS PROFITEERING. (I was questioning business and work ethics my friend, MD) I said: 1. Gulfees do not know how to do business, they only know to work and save 2. In general Goan Christians do not want to take risk Ghantis did not have any money (they borrow it), if they lose - they had nothing in the first place SO THEY WORK HARD TO MAKE SURE THEY DO NOT LOSE IT. 3. Goans prefer to go to Parties for Party's sake. While Ghantis will utilise every social occasion (including Religious) to exchange ideas and get contacts for business. - (I think Cajetan should have a look at the bank profit andloss account to know why exactly banks lend on a higher rate ofinterest and pay lesser percentage in interest to depositors(overheads, my friend). MD.)
[Goanet] Tarvotteanchim bondolam
Selma said: The money that the tarvottis and Gulfies brought and hoarded in their banks is absolutely essential to growth --- Selma, I think Soter is correct and he is NOT jealous. Goans investing in Bank deposit is not the answer Who uses that money is more important And, Goans are not clever in INVESTING And, Goans who have opened shops in Panjim are not interested in business/customers either. Their policy is - I've got a shop, if you want to buy - buy - if not get out Pig headedness while the outsiders will bend backwards to get your money out of your pocket. Bhaile have come to Goa to survive, they cannot afford to sit on their hands like the Goans do, and go to their ancestral home. People borrowing pay more to the bank than depositors for interest. NEVER BORROW NEVER LEND - is ingrained in Goan peoples mind
[Goanet] Albert and you
Re Albert and youhttp://www.goanet.org/post.php?name=Newslist=goanetinfo=2010-Maypost_id=193592 kaleon -- HE IS A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN NOW caj
[Goanet] Freedom of speech in India but not Goa?
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- I had replied to an article by Anil Desai about Court decision in favour of Muslims in India. I got a reply that my article was not Goa related. Obviously there are NO MUSLIM living in Goa. If there are, then Goans should know about What Islam Teaches, via Muslims (ex) themselves. Simplest way was (in the age of internet, for Goans to expand their knowledge) to at least know that there is a site on the internet- www.faithfreedom.org -and let Goans decide. If there are Muslims in Goa, freedom of speech demands that Goans should know what their Quran says. Why live in the dark about Muslims? There is a $50,000/- reward for shutting that site down, shouldn't Goans have the right to claim it too? Let Goans decide.
[Goanet] Is Goan Indian?
And Mr Alvares please clarify whether the person completing that sentence would have been born post or prior 1945 Secondly Mr Alvares pray tell me why you consider yourself an Indian. Xanno Moidecar Does not matter post or prior. British and Portugalees were invaders of the Indian Sub. Any one born in India is Indian, If the British or the other wanted you to be one of them, it is their prerogative.
[Goanet] Growing mess in Goa
Now, can we get back to the discussion about the growing mess in Goa and what to do about it? By Mario Goveia -- What to do about it? Simple, pay attention to what JoeGoa is saying and taking pictures of. I feel sorry for his wasted energy, and his resilience to carry on none the less. No one is reading the NO PISSING signs, because the Ghantis cannot read. Police are on their HAFTAS. Ministers are on their Projects. and Babus at the Municipality are forever on their lunch break. END OF GOA
[Goanet] Is Goan Indian?
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Happy New Year Twenty-Ten --- Xanno Moidecar No matter how much I explain to you, you will never become xanno. Obvious reason being which place you were born in! Therefore xanno or no xanno, if born in Indian subcontinent, now, before or after, no atter what colour or creed or shape or size. You are _ _ _ _ _ (fill in)
[Goanet] Christians in Pakistan
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Happy New Year Twenty-Ten --- http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/search?cx=partner-pub-8258178831251847%3Az3hcmr-tplucof=FORID%3A11ie=ISO-8859-1q=christias+in+pakistansa=Searchsiteurl=www.dawn.com%2F#1807
[Goanet] I am looking for an honest man.
Albert writes: - Socrates once was seen with a lighted lamp in the market place during the day and every one laughed at him for this act.Some one asked him as what he was doing with a lighted lamp during the day to which he replied that he was looking for an honest person CORRECTION - DIOGENES not Socrates
[Goanet] Goan ani Goanese
Why is this debate going on for such a long time? This is getting out of hand. If any one calls me Goanese, I immediately know that he does not have much education, therefore no point in talking about it to him. I have been call a Goanese several times in India, by people who do not have a sound knowledge of English. A Chinese cannot be Chinan, japanese cannot be Japanan. Simple - meercat dot com. Caj.
[Goanet] Selma's tale of two Goanese chaps
What is wrong with you guys? Have you not heard of Virtual Gates?Na re baba . Virtual Gates is not the sister of Bill Gates - jc Na re baba, Liz is going the Albert. (have mercy on her). Caj.
[Goanet] Goa murder girl's mother is charged ove r £50k benefits
The Department for Work and Pensions is bringing the charge. MacKeown is due to appear before a court in North Devon next month. A DWP source said: 'The allegation is that she basically claimed benefits but didn't declare income.' Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1229074/Goa-murder-girls-mother-charged-50k-benefits.html#ixzz0XIKJVCO4
[Goanet] World War II German presence in Goa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sea_Wolves The Book: The film is based on the book *Boarding Party* by James Leasor, which itself is based on a real incident which took place in the Second World Warhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_World_War . Plot During World War II http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II, Germanhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanysubmarines are sinking thousands of tons of British http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom merchanthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchantshipping. British intelligence, based in India http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India, believe information is being passed to the U-Boats http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-Boat by a radio transmitter hidden on board one of three German ships internedhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internmentin Portuguese http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal Goa. Since Portugal is neutral, the ships cannot be attacked by conventional forces. British intelligence approach a territorialhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_Army_%28United_Kingdom%29unit of ageing British expatriates to carry out the mission on their behalf. Historical fact: The film notes in its closing creditshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closing_creditsthat during the first 11 days of March 1943, the U-boats sank 12 Allied ships in the Indian Ocean. But, after the Light Horse raid on Goa, only one ship was lost in the remainder of the month. Film based on facts: The incident involved The Calcutta Light Horsehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcutta_Light_Horse's covert attack against a German merchant ship which had been transmitting information to U-boats from Mormugao Harbour in neutral Portugal's territory of Goa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goa on 9 March 1943. --- Not likely Vivian, as the Seawolves incident took place at the beginning of the war. Could you have got the dates wrong?best,Selma
[Goanet] Shame on Saligao's parish priest
Shame on the charlatan who serves as the parish priest of Saligao. Rajan P. Parrikar --- As I said before, they all come from Saligao. Same with sagoumcars in UK, they are stuck in their Kenya/ Nairobi garb. Caj.
[Goanet] Faith Healing
Sacru deSaligao, who went about,* * garbed in a franciscan habit, preaching prettyapochrypal interpretations of the* * divine (Joao Barros-Pereira) - Sacru came from a rich family and was sent to Saligao seminary, they found him 'off is head' and dismissed him, leaving us joepublic to put up with him, he pretended to be a priest, as for Albert I think he is our real John the Baptist of the 21st century. Funny, they all come from Saligao, including Freddy. Caj.
[Goanet] Need of a medical practioner
Albert: The one that lives by the word of God does not get sick. Reply: Sometimes I wonder what I would do without the wise words coming out of Albert. I have milk/coffee/beef intolerance, some one told me to go to Pota for a cure and a miracle, over there I could not get tea without milk and my condition got worse. Should I pray to God or curse her (God) for her gift of food intolerance given to me? Caj.
[Goanet] US alert on 26/11-type strikes along western coast (and GOA?)
Josy Joseph / DNA** * *( http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_us-alert-on-26-11-type-strikes-along-western-coast_1306459 ) *New Delhi: *US intelligence agencies have alerted the Union home ministry about possible26/11-type terrorist strikes on coastal states such as Maharashtra, Gujarat and Karnataka. The warning came a few weeks ago, home ministry sources said. The alert points to two possible scenarios. One is a sea-borne attack originating from the Iranian port of Chabahar, a free-trade area being developed with assistance from New Delhi, said the sources. The port is a hub for fishing trawlers, especially those belonging to a Pakistani syndicate.The other scenario is that Pakistani terrorists could seize Indian fishing trawlers and use them to strike. The two possibilities have been discussed by Indian agencies over the past few days. Navy sources say it is almost impossible for terrorists to travel all the way from Chabahar to Mumbai, or to another city on the Indian coast, to launch an attack. It would take a minimum of four days to travel through the high seas, which are regularly patrolled by world navies because of heightened piracy activities in the area. The BSF has also raised an alert about a possible intrusion by terrorists through the Sir Creek area. According to the BSF, the disputed area is the most vulnerable spot, and it would only take a few hours for a group of terrorists to sneak into India from the Pakistani side.
[Goanet] God and You
Wise Albert has spoken: are the jews not our ancestors ? was Jesus not a Jew ? --- Reply: Jews are not my ancestors neither are they of Eric that is why he told you to see a Doctor for insulting his and my ancestors on Goanet. Was Jesus a Jew? NO! Albert, like you and me he was a half caste. (if jews are my ancestors) Caj.
[Goanet] Request for words for monkey in Konknni
Why you asking such stupid questions no? Are you a makod no? Caj. *(words for monkey in Konknni?* *moi-mogan,* * * * * * * * Domnic Fernandes*)
[Goanet] Request for words for monkey in Konknni
http://www.goanet.org/post.php?name=Newslist=goanetinfo=2009-Octoberpost_id=185086Stupid question or not, that reply was rude :-) FN (descendent of a makod!)2009/10/28 Frederick Noronha -- Reply: Was NOT rude. You answered my question and yet say that the reply was rude. You are a descendant of makod, and I'm a monkey's Uncle no? Same difference no? Caj.
[Goanet] Epsom Salt
PLEASE GOANS do not use it on children, Doctors in UK say - are you mad to use it? there are other alternatives, fig syrup does a better job, Ayurveda practice is to use enema.
[Goanet] Bad news for non-US fans of President Obama
Mario is just jealous that 'Goiyo Bush' did not receive any accolade, except that he is a shoe dodging No 1 idiot, and has something common with fish. - Fish Brain (fish and humans can co-exist) Caj. -- *Oscar, Mervyn, Joao, and Gabe, PLEASE keep it up:-))* * * * * *RESPONSE: You are heading for a massive heart attack, I don't want to be * responsible. Why can't you just accept a 'Black man' in charge of yourCountry?-- DEV BOREM KORUM.
[Goanet] About Goan families migration (to London)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Planning to get married in Goa? www.weddingsetcgoa.com Making your 'dream wedding' possible Once in the UK (London) and as per the country’s culture etc, the wife made at least 5 boyfriends. Everywhere the mother goes, she took her teenage daughter too. Over a period of 7 years, the daughter too followed in her mother’s footsteps. The younger teenage brother was never happy. His parents have no time to give him as they both busy after ‘Pounds’In the end, the boy ends his life settling the ‘IXOB’ once for all. Hi Joe, This is 100% true. The suicide boy from Slough who drowned himself. Goan Women!! what do they see in a white man? Yes I know. - They fall for their sweet talk. My mother in law (goan) employs only white men to do any DIY jobs. She also says that white doctors are better than the Indian ones - DOH When I told her to see ROGUE TRADERS on BBC, she did not want to watch it. She thinks ALL white men are honest straight forward people - THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH GOAN WOMEN. Caj.
[Goanet] Goa, Goa, Goa Meri hai (Joegoa)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Planning to get married in Goa? www.weddingsetcgoa.com Making your 'dream wedding' possible Joe said: We sing or we claim.. Goa, Goa. Goa meri haiGoa, Goa, Goa meri hai But where is everybody? When come back to Goa after many years..You see the village Saparnch is non-GoanYour own church ‘Sankristao’ in non Goan (Hindi speaking fellow). -- Reply via Aiyer Family of Tamil Nadu: This is written by Swaminathan S Anklesaria Aiyer, about himself. Published in The Times of India. In 1992, I wrote a book titled Towards Globalisation. I did not realise at the time that this was going to be the history of my family. Last week, we celebrated the wedding of my daughter, Pallavi. A brilliant student, she had won scholarships to Oxford University and the London School of Economics. In London, she met Julio, a young man from Spain. The two decided to take up jobs in Beijing, China. Last week, they came over from Beijing to Delhi to get married. The wedding guests included 70 friends from North America, Europe and China. That may sound totally global, but arguably my elder son Shekhar has gone further. He too won a scholarship to Oxford University, and then taught for a year at a school in Colombo. Next he went to Toronto, Canada, for higher studies. There he met a German girl, Franziska. They both got jobs with the International Monetary Fund in Washington DC, USA. This meant that they constantly travelled on IMF business to disparate countries. Shekhar advised and went on missions to Sierra Leone, Seychelles, Kyrgyzstan and Laos. Franziska went to Rwanda, Tajikistan, and Russia. They interrupted these perambulations to get married in late 2003. My younger son, Rustam, is only 15. Presumably he will study in Australia, marry a Nigerian girl, and settle in Peru. Readers might think that my family was born and bred in a jet plane. The truth is more prosaic. Our ancestral home is Kargudi, a humble, obscure village in Tanjore district, Tamil Nadu. My earliest memories of it are as a house with no toilets, running water, or pukka road. When we visited, we disembarked from the train at Tanjore, and then travelled 45 minutes by bullock cart to reach the ancestral home. My father was one of six children, all of whom produced many children (I myself had three siblings). So, two generations later, the size of the Kargudi extended family (including spouses) is over 200. Of these, only three still live in the village. The rest have moved across India and across the whole world, from China to Arabia to Europe to America. This one Kargudi house has already produced 50 American citizens. So, dismiss the mutterings of those who claim that globalisation means westernisation. It looks more like Aiyarisation, viewed from Kargudi. What does this imply for our sense of identity? I cannot speak for the whole Kargudi clan, which ranges from rigid Tamil Brahmins to beef-eating, pizza-guzzling, hip-hop dancers. But for me, the Aiyarisation of the world does not mean Aiyar domination. Nor does it mean Aiyar submergence in a global sea. It means acquiring multiple identities, and moving closer to the ideal of a brotherhood of all humanity. I remain quite at home sitting on the floor of the Kargudi house on a mat of reeds, eating from a banana leaf with my hands. I feel just as much at home eating noodles in China, steak in Spain, teriyaki in Japan and cous-cous in Morocco. I am a Kargudi villager, a Tamilian, a Delhi-wallah, an Indian, a Washington Redskins fan, and a citizen of the world, all at the same time and with no sense of tension or contradiction. When I see the Brihadeeswara Temple in Tanjore, my heart swells and I say to myself “This is mine.” I feel exactly the same way when I see the Church of Bom Jesus in Goa, or the Jewish synagogue in Cochin, or the Siddi Sayed mosque in Ahmedabad: these too are mine. I have strolled so often through the Parks at Oxford University and along the canal in Washington, DC, that they feel part of me. As my family multiplies and intermarries, I hope one day to look at the Sagrada Familia cathedral in Barcelona and Rhine river in Germany and think, “These too are mine.” We Aiyars have a taken a step toward the vision of John Lennon. Imagine there's no country, It isn't hard to do. Nothing to kill or die for, And no religion too. My father's generation was the first to leave the village, and loosen its regional shackles. My father became a chartered accountant in Lahore, an uncle became a hotel manager in Karachi, and we had an aunt in Rangoon. My generation loosened the shackles of religion. My elder brother married a Sikh, my younger brother married a Christian, and I married a Parsi. The next
[Goanet] Why blame Charles Darwin?
Exactly, Why blame him? For all the ills in this world? For a start Muslims say Adam and Eve were Muslims, and Darwin's monkey theory is BS. Darwin kept silent for 20 years and had kept his book with his daughter for safe keeping in case he died. Yet, after 20 years they called him and us 'monkey's uncle', we blame him for AIDS and Swine flue too. (And now, homosexuality in Goa - what next?) The monkey theory was invented by his contemporaries who did not understand what he actually wrote, and the tabloid cartooned him monkey face to ridicule him. In the Origin of Species, page 424 he clearly wrote that every thing originated from a single cell. After 20 years he published his book purely because he said, what his contemporaries were saying to day was declared by him ages ago. Why did he hide his book? because, after he had explained his theory to his ships Captain (who was a dedicated Bible puncher), committed suicide. If people want to know more about Darwin they can log on to BBC iPlayer, at the moment there is a repeat of his series. Caj. --- -Why blame Charles Darwin?By Patrick FerdinandMr. Bernard Simoes had written a diatribe against Charles Darwin andhis monumental work ‘The Origin of Species’, three weeks ago on thisvery page of the Sunday herald Mirror(13 September), accusing him ofbeing the cause of all the ills that have afflicted mankind since itspublication, 150 years ago.
[Goanet] Christians with Hindu names and Gandhi
INTERACTIVE DISCUSSION: Alternative Publishing - Is it viable to traditional publishing? WHERE: Art Lounge - Sunaparanta, Near Lar de Estudantes, Altinho, Panaji WHEN: September 30, 2009 - 5:30pm http://www.facebook.com/n/?event.phpeid=146588805806mid=12a68daG1df3c3d3G2ac936fG7 There is a series on BBC2 on Gandhi this Saturday @ 22:15
[Goanet] Christian/Hindu names, are all cowards
The Jorge who started this thread is probably licking his wounds somewhere:-)) Mario Goveia -- Reply: As far as I know, only J is pronounced as Hose, and not G as J to pronounce silent H. Since G does exist in the Spanish alphabet G should be used and not J (pronounce how you like). As for Polish or other East Europeans, using J for G is legal. Secondly: St Jeorge or George was Palestinian, just like Jesus (Hesus). Therefore, why is this Spanish coward using Palestinian name? and calling us cowards? Now, to come to the point: Why do the English want St George (the dragon slayer, and a Palestinian) as their English Patron Saint is beyond my understanding. Caj.
[Goanet] Christian/Hindu names, are all cowards
Today hardly anyone has these names, its either russian names, german names, etc. One name for a boy which is so common in India is Rahul. Ana Maria --- Hi, I asked this question some time ago. Is Jorge a Polish or Kosovan name. The person concerned has done some stirring here and disappeared. Who is a coward now then! Caj.
[Goanet] NEWS: 'The BJP will not disintegrate' (Manohar Parrikar, in Rediff.com, interviewer: Vicky Nanjappa)
Hi, As long as there is rancid pickle and a spoon (Manohar) to stir it up, the rancid party will survive in a rancid existence, Allahu.
[Goanet] CHRISTIANs WITH HINDU NAMES ARE COWARDS
On Tue, 9/22/09, Jorge Dias jorgesr91 at gmail.comhttp://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org wrote: * Those Christians in India who are operating with Hindu names are doing * * this to protect their skin from Hindu facist forces. May God give these* * christians the courage that they do not hide their christian faith.* My friends Anil Pinto, Reena D'Souza, Sam Naik, Sheila Desai think Jorge is confused and is being discriminatory. George --- Has any one heard of St Jorge, and what day of the month is his or her feast day please let me know. Is Jorge a Bosnian/Kosovan/croatian or Polish saint? Caj.
[Goanet] Top 5 Films
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Two new showrooms/office spaces, double height (135 sq m each with bath) for lease in upscale Campal/Miramar beach area, Panaji, Goa. Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com Just for light Entertaiment now and again on Goanet. Want to ask if you have heard about - The Shawshank Redemptionhttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt061/ People generally ask WHAT? Well?! http://www.imdb.com/chart/top Says: The Shawshank Redemption http://www.imdb.com/title/tt061/ (1994) No 1 Film (prison still standing in USA but no imates) Also on You Tube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=129Bp2ma9OM Pulp Fiction http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110912/ (1994) @ No 5 etc.
[Goanet] Cellphones Cause Brain Tumors, (the correct portal)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Two new showrooms/office spaces, double height (135 sq m each with bath) for lease in upscale Campal/Miramar beach area, Panaji, Goa. Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/permalink/?ndmViewId=news_viewnewsId=20090825005712newsLang=en
[Goanet] Incredible little girl -pianist
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Two new showrooms/office spaces, double height (135 sq m each with bath) for lease in upscale Campal/Miramar beach area, Panaji, Goa. Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com Little girl pianist playing confidently
[Goanet] Goanet] Goa Electricity Dept responsible for the death of Joaquim 55 and his Son 20?
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Two new showrooms/office spaces, double height (135 sq m each with bath) for lease in upscale Campal/Miramar beach area, Panaji, Goa. Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com Hi, You are absolutely correct to say that the lower ranks will be the sacrificial goat. The only solution is to bring the hierarchy to book like in other parts of the world, for example: http://oneworldsee.org/Parliamentary-Inquiry-Commission-Finds-Police-Reports-Unsatisfactory . The question is. Who will bell the cat? Will the Indian Montrees agree to this type of questioning, wherby they will be found guilty? Caj. -- Samir,Booking the Electricity Department will not help. As I had mentioned in one of my previous posts,the person who will get suspended will either be the poor lineman or the Junior Engineer, in chargeof that area. We need accountability at the political level. Naguesh Bhatcar
[Goanet] Talking Photo: PRIVATE Party on a PUBLIC Road ?
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Two new showrooms/office spaces, double height (135 sq m each with bath) for lease in upscale Campal/Miramar beach area, Panaji, Goa. Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com JoeGoa said:*Thu Sep 3 00:52:40 PDT 2009* (one will find at least 3 cars parked at any givn time) Now, who owns Panjim? The same fellow who thinks he owns Taleigao All others are like his ‘munddkars’ --- Hi Joe, I remember you saying that Manohar should be given a chance to rule Goa. Well, he rules Panjim. May be Manohar thinks your villagers are his mundkars, if Panjim belongs to one of his colleagues. If Manohar cannot look after Panjim, how the hell can he rule Goa? Now that he is abroad, what action will he take when he comes back? Caj. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim3/3874699337/
[Goanet] Religion and Tolerance
* Tue Sep 1 00:00:18 PDT 2009 *Sandeep Heble Hi, Sorry, but I fail to understand the Philosophical article on the above topic. Who demolished the statue of Buddha, in Afghanistan? Who wants to demolish the Babri temple? Writing articles on Goanet is not going to educate the above (Quote) fools who break the door! Caj.
[Goanet] Religion and Tolerance
* Tue Sep 1 07:52:26 PDT 2009* --- On Tue, 9/1/09, Cajetan Alvares cajuloal at googlemail.comhttp://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org wrote: * * * Who demolished the statue of Buddha, in Afghanistan?* * Who wants to demolish the Babri temple?* * * Who else? Violent criminals and fanatics.Cheers,Santosh/ - Hi, So, you do admit that Advani amd the rest of the BJP gang are violent criminals and fanatics? Why not write to them instead of on Goanet? Writing to us here is not going to help. Caj.
[Goanet] Automatic job with Portuguese passport
J. Colaco jc 6: There is NO shame in doing any work one has to do to pay one's bills. Iknow some of my physician colleagues who worked part-time in restaurants(washing dishes), in gas stations and in super-markets (as cashiers) to makethe extra funds. Today, they are on the top rung of the ladder in themedical field. - Hi, There are newly arrived Indian doctors who are still doing the same today. I dont understand why Goans with their PP should be treated any differently. Goans are used to their susegado attitude. Caj.
[Goanet] Talking Photo: PRIVATE Party on a PUBLIC Road ?
*Sun Aug 30 16:39:13 PDT 2009* 7pm http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim3/3871341271/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim3/3871291489/sizes/l/ *at 1am (next morning) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim3/3872074866/sizes/l/ --- Hi, Thanks for taking all the trouble (staying up till 1 am) to bring the advantage taken by the irrisponsible few. To think that Indian (not Goan) mentality has not changed, but getting worse. Now that you have photographic evidence, what is the BL**DY Panjim MLA going to do about it? Public is public, no one has the authority to abuse it, be it day or night, was public notice issued for this abuse? Caj.
[Goanet] Swines, and swindon
August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary ' Why cannot we make a livin' in Goa? There are fields which have been stolen fromBakars lie uncultivated. Why can't people be like us Moidekars?Why can't we work hard?So the next time the Portuguese passport service providers rob of your euros and rupees think twicestay in Goa, be like a Goan, and you will save yourselv fromSWINDON FLU Be happy don't worry. X B Moidekar. --- The Bove pisso moidekar has never been to UK. He has got some inkling after reading the letter from Menino that he met a man working at the airport (but I assure you not in the toilets). Well, I have lived at Heathrow area for 30 years and I have not SEEN one Goan work in the toilets. Yes, seen a few with gold chains round their necks (typical Goan) work the trollies, they come and go. This moidekar, has shown his true colours, 'a moidekar'. And as for JC there was no need for the shermao, those who have lived in UK gone to college 'done it, seen, it worn the T shirt', know it all. This extra info just gives PIXE to write nonsense, free on Goanet. Presently I know of a Pakistani who worked at the post office sorting mail for 3 years, he was educated in USA in Computing. He has now got a good job in computing and doing well. People who have lived in the west know the problems. Pixe from Goa writing this stupidity on Goanet are JUST JEALOUS. Caj.
[Goanet] Comedy show
Hi All, Sorry about the delay. I have been sleeping under a rock. The Honourable Speaker of the Assembly is so powerful that he can 'shutup' the MLAs. Why can't he silence an ordinary citizen who has declared that he does not vote for Congress? Sorry Selma, the word sorry is very commonly used by the UK Ministers who are humble enough to recognise their mistake. ALL Goan MLAs are beyond that, they do not know the meaning of the word, they think it is a humiliating word for the MLAs to use. After all they are treated like gods in Goa, Goans pleading with them to come and give the prizes at their annual sports events, dramas at Kala Academy and such like. MLAs are above all the Gazette Officers of Goa and all the hoi-palloi, how dare you tell him to apologize? Have you no respect for him? Democracy in Goa is only 49 years old (just). These fogies were brought up by the Salazar regime, what do you expect. Caj. (I think the Speaker should apologise to the People now, unless we have a move like that, democracy in Goa has just been turned back a couple of centuries.- Selma)
[Goanet] Comedy show
BUTthese are small victories and PR for both sides, considerin the nature ofour socially engineered societies.- Venantius Pinto. - Hi, What about an apology from Cherchill? Instead, he will bribe them and tell them to lie. Considering the nature of our society - thats how it is. Always one sided. What bugs me is, why isn't any one prepared to go to jail for these two. Caj.
[Goanet] Comedy of Goa
Panaji, Aug 13 (IANS) A Goa cabinet minister allegedly beat up security guards and made them kneel down for ten minutes as a punishment Wednesday for not letting his nephew near a water reservoir classified as a vital installation, officials disclosed Thursday. If Shamir goes to jail he will be lucky, he will get free meals and board at Goa tax payers pleasure. As for you, the above will be the punishment, for being cheeky. I will recomend to churchil and alemao and rane etc to make you kneel in front of the Secretariate. You silly old fool. You think you can win the lord and masters of Goa who get elected on permanent basis?
[Goanet] Comedy show
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - I think the Speaker should apologise to the People now, unless we have a move like that, democracy in Goa has just been turned back a couple of centuries. selma -- Are you joking? You have lived in UK for too long, looks like it. In UK, Ministers carry their own briefcases and work papers. In India there are 10 voters, I mean voters, ready to carry their luggage for free and 9 say sorry for not doing so. Why should the MLAs say sorry? In UK, ministers cycle to work, in India/Goa they want to be driven or better still carried. Sorry, is a bad word in India. Caj.
[Goanet] Sex determination (Was: Church vs State)
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html * * Because the Y chromosome has a gene that determines the formation of testes. It is called the SRY gene and it codes for a protein called TDF (testis determining factor).Cheers,Santosh - Reply: In that case I have to agree with Fr Ivo and the Catholic Church that Homosexuality and Transgenderism is an 'Activity'. Thanks. Caj.
[Goanet] How to Clean a Dirty CD
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Excelent Scientific method of cleaning a CD. Thanks. I used to 'spit' on it and clean it. Now can you please tell us how to take the scratches off the CD? --- (Wow!!!Nice and amusing process this!But who uses CDs these days?Jim FNew York.) Reply: In that case can you please tell me Jim what to do with my CDs?
[Goanet] Church vs State (formerly Fr Cedric Prakash)
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html This nonsense is interesting. Lets take it a bit further. 1. If your argument is to hold water, can you please tell me why men have nipples? Secondly, all men have X chromosome (X and Y),women have 2 Xs. How and why does Y take over 3 Xs? (more questions on sex will follow). 2. Research done has found that after a Tsunami or Hurricane etc birth rate is 80% female, WHY? Caj. --- (This is nonsense. Gender in humans and other mammals is determined by the presence or absence of a Y chromosome. What happens is simply the normal course of embryonic development determined by the genes in the chromosomes.Cheers,Santosh)
[Goanet] Church vs State (formerly Fr Cedric Prakash)
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html (Homosexual activity is morally wrong. We have to help the homosexuals with concern so as to use their freedom as much as possible for their renewal. We call gay the one who is proud of his homosexual tendency. Gays become militant and try to attack the values of our culture and militantly intend to corrupt our youth. Unhealthy, immoral, abnormal behaviour cannot be legalized (given rights). We need rehabilitation of the homosexuals.Regards.Fr.Ivo) Dear Fr Ivo, Try as much as I can, I cannot agree with you that Homosexuality is an activity. I am not siding with Santosh or any one else here, this is just my derivation. A fetus is female for 7 week, something triggers in the womb that changes female fetus to male (in crocodiles it is the sun that heats the sand, those in the shade are female). Therefore something has gone wrong (regarding sex formation) in a woman's body (if I may put it that way). This triggering in the womans body can also go wrong and children are born with eight or 6 limbs or numerous nipples (like that of an animal) etc. Try as much as I can I cannot act (activity) as a Homosexual (waving arms and wriggling by bottom and doing a funny talk for more than 5 minutes, its tiring). Caj. (In Hindu Astrology, it is written that if a pregnant woman wants a boy to be born she should do puja at 7th week. This is an ancient writing, I wonder how they knew this. When I first read this I said it was rubbish. The change of sex at 7th week as we know now is a fairly recent 20th Cent. scientific discovery).
[Goanet] Fr Cedric Prakash
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is one of Goa's leading NGOs. Sangath is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and is looking to buy land of approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas If you have land to sell, please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or phone +91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Santosh Helekar said: Let us get to the bottom of this warped logic. How does one persuade someone to convert to a new religion without telling them that their old religion is worse than the new one? Any reasonable and practical person should understand this logic.BTW, speaking out against any religion and its harmful practices is an integral element in secularism. One of the harmful practices is using one's religious identity and religion to gin up political support.Cheers,Santosh --- Reply: Naked, unmarried girls plough the fields to embarrass the gods into sending rain (DNAIndia) http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_naked-unmarried-girls-plough-the-fields-to-embarrass-the-gods-into-sending-rain_1276802 IS THIS THE RELIGION ALL INDIANS ARE TO FOLLOW? I suppose this is a better religious practice than the Christian one? Should they be allowed to carry on? If the Hindus are not prepared to correct them, should the Christians ignore them too? Is the 21st Century that you and I are living in? Caj
[Goanet] Fr Cedric Prakash
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and is looking to buy land of approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas If you have land to sell, please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or phone +91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html (Cajetan, if my memory serves me right (and forgive if it has failed me) but weren't you the one who was chiding me for pointing out the ridiculousness of Potta, especially the excorcisms?Can you tell us know how is this different from the excorcism, healing sessions and other acts carried out under the banner of faith at Potta?best,selma) --- Your memory has served you right (I knew you would get at me some later date, I have been to Potta before you to see the acting). There is a big difference -- You have to see the broader picture. Exorcism is spiritualsm without blood letting and no offering of virgins at the high alter, plus it is voluntary activity on a person who is psychologically trumatised, no forced labour or sacrificial offerings. Just focing naked virgins to plough the field? It just doesn't end there. Have you not heard about the 'Incas' of Peru? I did write about this before, about Panjim blood sacrifice (JoeGoauk's photos) but the moderaters curtailed my post. Human sacrifice, - and you want the journalist to be there taking pictures (its just not going to happen). What makes you say that the above will not take place after this naked ritual and there is still no rain? One has to see the broader picture and the consequences. Caj. (Selma, are you saying Potta is Paganism?)
[Goanet] Fr Cedric Prakash
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and is looking to buy land of approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas If you have land to sell, please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or phone +91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Ah, I've always said I have a long memory on Goanet :-)Now, let me put in as succintly as I can:1. Men believe, making young girls dance naked, will appease the rain-God.2. Men believe, letting young girls have convulsions, will rid them of the devil possessing their body.Is there any tangible difference between the two? No, both are irrational beliefs and the reason we know they are irrational is because our body of knowledge has expanded. It is just a matter of educating people to expand their body of knowledge. With education comes change. Best,Selma --- I knew you had a bone to pick with me (long time coming, I was waiting) I too have a long memory. Thanks for putting Pagan Rituals and Pota in the same bracket. Belief in Paganism does not mean decent moral code of conduct has to be ignored. Your No 2. Yes, there is a huge difference, all girls do not want to take their clothes off (even men for that matter). Not all girls have convulsions (even educated people have convulsions, they just get hypnotised). All girls in that village were forced by the elders to strip if not they are beaten, I have lived in Madhya Pradesh Jungle Mines for 5 years, I know the punishment. When I was in Pota one man started talking in tongues, no one else, his sister said I knew he would do that (are you saying he and his sister are not educated, he is a business man and she a teacher). It is a choice to get psychologically traumatised, his sister chose not to (education has nothing to do with convulsions). Another woman started crying hysterically, she was removed, for being a nuisance. Another Hindu man came marching up to the alter and prostrated (attention seeking) (that Hindu man was in the same bus with us). Your No 3. Yes, our body willing to except knowledge should be educated. But who will take on that task? Certainly the Hindus have not done that as yet (2009), instead they kill the missionaries who try to educate them. Shouldn't the educated Hindus instead of going to the Banaras or the Himalayas for personal purification of going to heaven, help the priests (I mean to at least tell the people that these Priests do not BITE and see for themselves too that these priests do not instigate violence; instead they choose to talk big on Internet). Its OK for FN to say let people believe in whatever they want to, if so, why Afghanistan and Iraq? If Hindus do not want to educate people in this 21st century of ours. What chance have these people got? Last of all, to have convulsions or not, it is a personal choice,(some do, some dont). There are young people who will marry outside their cast (or whatever) JUST to annoy authority - these people will never get convulsion no matter how much you try, instead they will give you one. That is the difference. Caj. Selma, after studying astrology (out of curiosity) - (Sir Isac Newton said to his friends if you have not studied astrology do not comment - I have). I now know that you cannot change a person's psyche, if they are vulnerable to be hypnotised they will, Daren Brown picks one out of 100 to be hypnotised, because he knows they can be manipulated.
[Goanet] Church vs State (formerly Fr Cedric Prakash)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and is looking to buy land of approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas If you have land to sell, please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or phone +91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Mario asks:If he is not running for office what is all the fuss about?If he is not running for office he can speak out all he wants regardless of whether anyone agrees with him or not. - Well that is exactly what he is doing, As they say, dont teach grandmother how to suck eggs, Similarly. dont get excited and tell Priests about their duties and show them the Vatican Red Card. Now, say sorry to Fr Cedric and Fr Ivo, for winding them up for no reason (you started this topic - formerly, formerly). Caj
[Goanet] Fr. Cedric Prakash
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is one of Goa's leading NGOs. Sangath is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and is looking to buy land of approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas If you have land to sell, please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or phone +91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html or participates in such activity intending to use or be trained to use criminal force or violence or knowing it to be likely that the participants in such activity will use or be trained to use criminal force or violence, against any religious, racial, language or regional group or caste or community and such activity for any reason whatsoever causes or is likely to cause fear or alarm or a feeling of insecurity amongst members of such religious, racial, language or regional group or caste or community,] Shall be punished with imprisonment which may extend to three years, or with fine, or with both. The above posted by: Samir Kelekar -- Hi, I do not understand why Samir is so obsessed by Priests demolishing Hindu temples and inciting racial hatred. He has been spending too much time in the BJP camp to speak of so much hate. The teachings of Jesus is not about hate - why doesn't Samir get this,into his head? Looks like he is psychologically traumatised by the BJP hierarchy, and their malicious propaganda. Continuously harping on Priests inciting people to demolish temples. First of all when I was young, I was told that if I went anywhere near a Hindu worship. The demons will catch my throat. Why? because there was blood all over this worhip alters, obviously chicken or animal sacrifice. I still think bad will come on someone who destroys the place of worship. The British occupiers (Christians) never, I mean never, destroyed Indian temples or mosques for 500 years, why now? I seriously think this gentleman should seek help from a shrink. Every other mail of his on Goanet harps on Priests inciting people to demolish Hindu temples. Caj.
[Goanet] Church vs State (formerly Fr Cedric Prakash)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is one of Goa's leading NGOs. Sangath is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and is looking to buy land of approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas If you have land to sell, please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or phone +91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Mario responds:Of course this would be fine. However, I don't believe the debate is about Fr. Prakash simply speaking out, but about becoming a politician and running for office. It is about the conflict of loyalty when one takes an oath of office in a secular democracy and an oath to serve one's God at the same time. - Reply: Serving God and serving the people is the same thing (it is not rocket science, is it) Serving the people via secular channel can also be done. In UK the ministers have second and third jobs. If one is capable of doing both jobs, he should be allowed to do so (he should not be prejudged). He could do a better job. Caj.
[Goanet] Fr. Cedric Prakash
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is one of Goa's leading NGOs. Sangath is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and is looking to buy land of approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas If you have land to sell, please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or phone +91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Mario Goveia mgoveia at sbcglobal.nethttp://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org wrote: * ** If Fr. Prakash wants to become a politician he should* *resign from the priesthood. You cannot honestly serve* *both God and Caesar, ...er, Shivaji, at the same time.* ** Hi Goans, Its nice to see that there are Goans of simple minds on Goanet. Govt ministers, (MINISTERS . get it!!!) Well! Priests were Ministers and still are (administering to the people) long before Democracy came into existence and Govt Ministers took over from the Priests. People paid 10% to the Priests (ministers) now a days we pay 20% to 30% to the Govt ministers. 1, Why can't priests have a say in the running of the country if they see that the country is badly run? God and Caesar is out of context here (God and Caesar question was put to Jesus on matter of paying this Tax - if 10% goes to the church why should we pay Tax to Caesar as well - the answer was simple - that which has Caesar's head on it (the coins) give it to Caesar, Jesus said.) 2. Where does Shivaji come into this I don't know. Shivaji did not have Ministers in his Cabinet. Caj.
[Goanet] Girann (eclipse)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is one of Goa's leading NGOs. Sangath is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and is looking to buy land of approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas If you have land to sell, please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or phone +91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Yes, even Wikipedia would have been alright, given the current state of intellectual laziness.Cheers,Santosh --- Thanks a bunch, Now I know that Googleing all day and Wikipediaing all night makes jack a clever dick. I always wondered where you got all this superior knowledge from. Caj.
[Goanet] Girann (eclipse)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is one of Goa's leading NGOs. Sangath is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and is looking to buy land of approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas If you have land to sell, please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or phone +91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueiredo at yahoo.com.auhttp://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org: * ** I am not superstitious, but curiously enough ...* * ** my wife was pregnant with our son in 1983. There was a solar eclipse in London then, and for a reason of emergency (we had an unexpected guest), she had to chop vegetables on the day. My son has a deep cleft on the top of his left ear ...* Hi Gab, Rest assured it has nothing to do with Girann. Remember Able and Cain story? One of them painted his cattle drinking water 'trough' red and all the new born were red in skin and hair? Similarly when women have niggling doubts about the after effects, phsychologial trauma takes over. Secondly, if you look at some peoples ears - some have dangly ear lobes others have it attached to the face. This is due to the DNA (I forget the name of it) specifically dealing with ear lobes. A true story: In UK a Reverend (Priest) had a pear tree in his garden, That tree gave only one fruit, he eyed it loving hoping that he will eat it one day. By the way his ancestors were Gypsies. When it did ripen someone ate it. He cursed (Gypsy curse) saying I wish that their children and grand children will have NO FINGERS. He was very upset. His wife was pregnant at that time. (I repeat, this is a true story) When his wife gave birth, the child had no fingers, just stumps as fingers. She did confess to her priest husband that it was her who ate that fruit, she could not tell him because she had gone to market that morning eating that fruit on the way, by the time she came back - he had already cursed that person. Now, there are several people of the same family with stumps as fingers. Was it a curse? - NO! They all gathered, a family reunion, via the Internet - AS SHOWN ON TV DOCUMENTARY. Their DNA was taken, All children in the families did not have stumps. All those who had, had the same DNA defect. They were relieved that it was not a curse after all. Caj.
[Goanet] Girann (eclipse)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is one of Goa's leading NGOs. Sangath is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and is looking to buy land of approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas If you have land to sell, please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or phone +91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Santosh's article of: http://www.nytimes.com/1991/05/02/garden/planting-by-the-full-moon-bright-idea-or-lunacy.html When I was 4 I'd go out with my grandmother, and we'd always try to plant potatoes on the full moon, said Michael Petitt, 25 years old, who grew up in the hills of Kentucky. And we'd plant pole beans and corn and grasses on the full moon, for faster germination. But don't plant anything when the moon is absolutely dark. That's when plants should rest, and a good time to kill weeds because they won't grow back. Now the moon is on the wane. Flowering bulbs and vegetables that bear crops below ground should be planted during the DARK of the Moon, says the 1991 Old Farmer's Almanac. That is, from the day after it is full to the day before it is new again. Santosh, This is as rubbish as rubbish can be. The above paras contradict each other Farmers plant their seed on a New Moon - not bloody full moon. Why? the moon after new begins to grow towards Full, so does the spirit of the plants and insects. When the Full moon wanes, so does the spirit of the insects and the plants, therefore anything planted on Full will die. For humans and others the rising of the sun gives us strength, for the nocturnal beings and 'plants that creep at night', get their energy from the moon. Santosh - 'do not' look to the West - look to the East, MAN! And, do not believe every thing that is written in the news papers, you yourself said yesterday that the likes of FN Journalists should go for psychotherapy for believing in the moon. These journalist write articles to fill pages, it is not just Navhind times that does that - you know. Santosh, learn some Astrology, man (just for curiosity, if nothing else - give google and wicki, wiki, some rest). Another quote from the above article: The moon is 238,000 miles away from us, which is very close, he said politely. The nearest star is four light-years away, and that light would not have an effect on plant life. Answer to that is: Astrology in Egypt came to prominence when they observed that they could predict the flooding of the river NILE. and save lives and belongings from the flood, they observed that when the moon enters the constellation of Ashwini flooding takes place. Caj.
[Goanet] Girann (eclipse)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is one of Goa's leading NGOs. Sangath is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and is looking to buy land of approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas If you have land to sell, please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or phone +91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Hurricane Katrina is a prime example. God did not send it to the USA to kill the people there. The birth, adolescence, maturityand path of the storm was accurately tracked, recorded and reported. Those who understood science took the necessary stepsto protect themselves. Those who did not understand, did not protect themselves, and as a result, mother nature removedthem from the gene system. Said Mervyn. - Mervyn, Mervyn, God does not exist (only in the mind). The moon does. Caj.
[Goanet] Solar eclipse pits superstition against science
Hi Seb, A few corrections if I may? 1. In Hindu mythology, the two demons Rahu and Ketu are said to swallow the sun during eclipses, snuffing out its life-giving light and causing food to become inedible and water undrinkable. Gods being gods, they win the battle against the demons. 2. Shivani Sachdev Gour, a gynaecologist at the Fortis Hospital in New Delhi, said a number of expectant mothers scheduled for caesarian deliveries on July 22 had asked to change the date. -Even in the West, surgeons have realised that excessive bleeding takes place on full moo days and only serious cases are carried out with stock of blood. 3. An Indian political leader could be killed, he said, and tension between the West and Iran is likely to increase, escalating into possible US military action after September 9, when fiery Saturn moves from Leo into Virgo. In fact Saturn is not fiery it is cold hottest among the 10 Planets being the Sun and the coldest the Saturn because it is the furthest away for the Sun and the Earth but has as much clout as the Sun. 4.The last 200 years, whenever Saturn has gone into Virgo there has been either a world war or a mini world war, he told AFP. In fact Saturn enters Virgo every 28 years. (Have there been a war or a mini war every 28 years - I dont know). In fact incidents do not take place just after Girann but prior to and after, Afghanistan escalation could be linked to this incident? Every thing has a 28 cycle, the moon takes 28 days to return to its new moon or full moon cycle, womens periods are 28 day cycle (average) its changed these days because of their hectic lifestyle STRESS and alcoholic husbands - so they say. Many people if they look back on their life will find that their life changed completely when they were 28 years old (average between 28 and 30 years), this is when a person becomes in actual fact an 'Adult' (not at 21). 21 is 3/4 cycle. Caj.
[Goanet] British citizens buying property in Goa
Hi, Why can't the British Citizens buy land in Goa? Indians as Commonewalth Citizens can do so in UK! Secondly, are the people from the rest of India any previlaged to buy land in Goa? But they are, and paying more for it. How come this happens? - Simple. One Govt. employess are transfered to Goa, Goans are transfered elsewhere in India too. One Indian is transfered to Goa, his dad (retired Govt. employee who made money by taking bribes) followed him. His dad with his illgotten money, opens a restaurant in Panjim (I have eaten there). They intend buying land and building a house in Goa, his dad said his other sons will come as well. For now the son his wife and his dad and his wife are in Goa, working and doing business. All this in return for one transfer. How many Goans have done this in other parts of India? Caj.
[Goanet] Pursuing Homoeopathy
On Fri, 7/17/09, Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न fredericknoronha at gmail.com http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org wrote: * ** I don't think it's fair to condemn or criticise someone for* * their* * religious beliefs, however bizarre these seem to us,* * specially when* * they don't affect us!* * *--Dear FN,Please give us a list of the things we can condemn in life. I'm sure it will be a very short list :-) Best,selma - 1. The Ten Commandments. 2. Not wearing seat belts. 3. keeping children in the front seat while driving 4. Going to Potta just to see the tamasha and to critisize, The list goes on and on. Caj.
[Goanet] The farce of prohibition which cannot be enforced
India's leading alcohol tycoon criticises 'political hypocrites' By Andrew Buncombe in Delhi India's leading alcohol tycoon has criticised the “political hypocrites” who control the country’s only dry state after more than 130 people died from drinking tainted home-made liquor. In a broadside against Narendra Modi and his senior officials in the western state of Gujarat, Vijay Mallya said it was an open secret that alcohol was available in the state but at increased prices. Poor people were risking their lives as a result. “The death of more than hundred people resulting from the consumption of spurious liquor is not only tragic but should act as a wake-up call for our political hypocrites,” said Mr Mallya who heads the UB Group, the world’s second largest distiller, which produces many of India’s best-selling brands. “The farce of prohibition which cannot be enforced leads to illegal, unhygienic and unsupervised production of deadly cocktails which claim innocent lives,” Mr Mallya added. Several of India’s states have passed and then dropped prohibition laws over the years. Cities such as Rishikesh ban alcohol on religious grounds, but Gujarat – birthplace of Mahatma Gandhi, who campaigned strongly against drinking – is the only place where alcohol remains illegal state-wide. Mafia gangs and corrupt officials ensure a steady supply, at increased rates. The perilous nature of the cheaper alterative has been underlined by the deaths of more than 130 people in Ahmedabad after drinking so-called “country liquor”. Plastic pouches of such hooch are often sold for as little as 10 rupees (13 pence). Mr Modi, a right-wing firebrand who had been named as a possible national leader of the Hindu nationalist BJP before its election failure, has yet to respond to Mr Mallyas’s claims. His health minister, Jaynarayan Vyas said: “Mallya has a vested interest and he should be the last person to comment? Similar tragedies have taken place on a much bigger scale in non-prohibition states.” http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/indias-leading-alcohol-tycoon-criticises-political-hypocrites-1743289.html
[Goanet] India vs Pakistan - by Milliband on CNN
*Washington: *India is not a threat to Pakistan, and New Delhi has better things to do than end up in a standoff with its neighbour, British foreign secretary David Miliband has said. The enemy that Pakistan faces is a domestic terrorist, not a large and successful neighbour like India, which has got far better things to do in the world of commerce and politics than end up in a standoff with Pakistan, Miliband said in an interview with CNN. When pointed out that it was British colonial powers which drew the boundary line between India and Pakistan, causing almost half a million people to die, Miliband said: We did. And we have to recognise our own history. At the same time, he was quick to point out: But remember, 61 years, India is the world's largest and most successful -- the largest democracy and the success story of the region. Pakistan on the other hand, he observed, has had 31 years of military rule and two-thirds of its boundaries were still contested. Communities from Baluchistan through to the Punjab split by lines between countries and of course, the Bangladesh experience of the early 1970s. So, you see, let me just make the point that Pakistan has been a society deeply challenged -- socioeconomically, politically, geographically -- over the last 60 years, Miliband said. http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_india-not-pakistan-s-enemy-says-miliband_1271799
[Goanet] GMC
J. Colaco: To Cajetan's question as to What can we do? here are some thoughts(f) Set fire under the butts of these Goa journos. -- Hi JC, Are you implying that we appeal to our Uncle FN to do something about this, or set fire to his butt? Caj.
[Goanet] GMC
Yvonne Pereira of Caranzalem: The doctors and many of the nurses worked hard and tirelessly and were too scared to complain for fear of being transferred. --- Hi All, Complaining is one thing, doing something about it is another. I do agree that the Doctors and Nurses are working very hard at GMC and are devoted to helping the patients. The administration should make their life a bit easier, patients come and go. Can any one on this net please tell us how other than complaining here can we act? Caj.
[Goanet] British citizens buying property in Goa
Hi, I hope I am clear. said Elvino Rodriques. Reply: I suppose you missed my post, here it is again: Hi Romeo Ferns, Easily said than done. When the East Africans/ Kenyans in particular applied to come to India. India refused them entry saying that you have a British Passport - Go to Britain. Alternatively, give up your BP. Feeling sorry for the British now is not fair, just because they are white. Could someone on Goanet please explain, how the British ruled the world, said jane gillian rodrigues Hi, Those days they had the guns, not brains. Those who came those days were the same kind who come now, 'all brawn no brains'. There was a program on UK TV. Only Builders, Hairdressers, Caterers, Hippies who happened to get money from their parents etc. bought land in Goa. Those who actually rules India were and are in UK, even now - calling Indians with brains but no brawn to work on their computers in UK. Now, are the Britishers still ruling India? Of course they are. India got everything, Nehru had banned import of foreign goods, did India starve? Who controls and puts check on Indian Rupee, to see that it does not go above a certain level? In India it is the Indian Govt that is all brawn and no brains (all goonds and bandits elected because they spent lakhs during elections). I have heard that some of our MLA's are 'metric fail'. Caj.
[Goanet] Treatment of British Families in Goa
Hi Romeo Ferns, Easily said than done. When the East Africans/ Kenyans in particular applied to come to India. India refused them entry saying that you have a British Passport - Go to Britain. Alternatively, give up your BP. Feeling sorry for the British now is not fair, just because they are white. Caj. Hi Karen Young,It is unfortunate that the govt is trying to confiscate the property you legitimately purchased. If you have registered the properety and you possess all the relevant documents, , then you all should band yourselvestogether and seek legal counsel without delay, What has been done has been done. Dont give up the fight to protect your savings and yr property.Enjoy a peaceful lifestyle in Goa.
[Goanet] Staying in Bombay
Hi, Came across this post while browsing. Unless it is an emergency I would not advise any one to go there. Why? Besides the rates they showed, they charged me Rs 600/- per day and that was in 2006. I don't know how much additional charges are for today. What, why, etc. Well! I did not have the time to ask, my plane was waiting at 5 am. The Invoice says: MODIFIED AMERICAN PLAN - Rs 600/- (per day). Be Warned. well maintained? well! the room that I stayed in certainly wasn't. The Aircon was racketing all night, had to put it off. Allahua Akbar, well?! If you want to wake up to that, go there by all means. Caj. * YMCA in Mumbai is very close to the Bombay Central station. ByIndian standards rather costly (Rs 900 to 3450, delux room) but wellmaintained and with breakfast...
[Goanet] Why some newspapers do not publish mass convertions
Hi, Many times a Goanetter comes here who complains about Dalits being converted en-mass by Christian believers. Why he asks should people be converted when they already believe in their God, and he is happy to announce that CID are investigating. Here is an example why some Gods discriminate against some section of the Indian community. Phullan Devi (Bandit Queen) all over again. What appalls me is that knowingly some people deliberately shut their eyes to see the reality in India, and they call themselves educated. Caitan. ** * http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_teenage-girl-burnt-alive-by-would-be-rapists_1269008 * *Muzaffarnagar: *A teenaged Dalit girl was allegedly burnt alive after she resisted a rape attempt by two youths at a village in Muzaffarnagar district in Western Uttar Pradesh, police said on Saturday.
[Goanet] Treatment of British families in Goa
J. Colaco said: I have been reading these posts about these innocents and how, onthe other hand, East African Goans were able to buy houses etc in theUK. - Well, Hi All, East African Goans have British Passports. Their Grandfathers had BP. If the British can give up their British Passport and take Indian citizenship, they too can buy land in Goa, or any where else in India. Caitan.
