Re: [Goanet] Goan Convention in Oman (Fred)

2009-08-05 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न ोरोन्या

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Men when used in this context has no singular. Two men, one men! Got
it, men? FN
PS: About 'Wot', as you know Konklish is being influenced in an
unhealthy manner these days by Angrezi.
PPS: Pls visit the Konkani sayings page on Facebook.

2009/8/5 Venantius Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com:
 I was under the impression that the W was silent. Should it not be Ot
 man. Please do not shake my moorings any more bro! As it is I am so far
 away.
 venantius


 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan Convention in Oman (Fred)

 (del), Kitem re(h)? Wot men?

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Re: [Goanet] Goan Convention in Oman (Fred)

2009-08-05 Thread Venantius Pinto

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Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training 
and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa 
and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com 
or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html


I was under the impression that the W was silent. Should it not be Ot
man. Please do not shake my moorings any more bro! As it is I am so far
away.

venantius



 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan Convention in Oman (Fred)

 (del), Kitem re(h)? Wot men?




Re: [Goanet] Goan Convention in Oman (Fred)

2009-08-05 Thread Carvalho

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Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training 
and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa 
and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com 
or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458
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--- On Tue, 8/4/09, Venantius Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 I was under the impression that the W was silent. Should
 it not be Ot
 man. Please do not shake my moorings any more bro! As it
 is I am so far
 away.
 
 venantius
 
-
Ven'u, it's ott man only if you are from Salcete. We can't seem to stand W and 
V. We get rid of it whether it's in Konkani, Portuguese or English :-))

selma


  


Re: [Goanet] Goan Convention in Oman (Fred)

2009-08-05 Thread Venantius Pinto

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Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training 
and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa 
and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com 
or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html


I totally got it. What I am saying is that Goans who speaking largely
Konknni as say my relatives say Ot, not Wot; man (more precisely maen) not
men.

I understand the bit about Inglez, etc. Thanks. I was also joking but
everything I said stays the same.

venantius


 From: Frederick [FN] Noronha *  
fredericknoro...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan Convention in Oman (Fred)

 Men when used in this context has no singular. Two men, one men! Got
 it, men? FN
 PS: About 'Wot', as you know Konklish is being influenced in an
 unhealthy manner these days by Angrezi.
 PPS: Pls visit the Konkani sayings page on Facebook.

 2009/8/5 Venantius Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com:
  I was under the impression that the W was silent. Should it not be Ot
  man. Please do not shake my moorings any more bro! As it is I am so far
  away.
  venantius
 
 
  Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan Convention in Oman (Fred)
 
  (del), Kitem re(h)? Wot men?



Re: [Goanet] Goan Convention in Oman (Fred)

2009-08-05 Thread Venantius Pinto

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Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training 
and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa 
and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com 
or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html


A response from VM posted with his permission.
Thanks Selma for your comment too.

venantius

-- Forwarded message --
From: V M vmin...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:35 PM
Subject: ot man
To: Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com, Venantius Pinto 
venantius.pi...@gmail.com

you gentlemen are talking past each other. the konglish of the north goan
village is markedly different in inflection from the konglish of salcette.
and venantius is bringing distinctive, good old bombay konglish to the
table, where 'ot' is absolutely correct, 'dey' talk like 'dat' and 'dere's'
no denying it.

btw, men is a pan-goan thing, and does not filter to bombay (etc) at all. it
took me years to transition to man from men after imbibing this lingo while
studying at lourdes convent alongside rico.

'tanks for making me smile,

VM


Re: [Goanet] Goan Convention in Oman (Fred)

2009-08-05 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न ोरोन्या

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Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training 
and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa 
and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com 
or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html


Now that the full moon is past, I suspect this is all an attempt to
subvert Eugene's very serious debate about the yet-to-be-launched Oman
meet. Wot men?

Gentlemen indeed! Bah, as Augusto would say. FN

2009/8/5 Venantius Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com:

 A response from VM posted with his permission.
 Thanks Selma for your comment too.

 venantius

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: V M vmin...@gmail.com

 you gentlemen are talking past each other. the konglish of the north goan
 village is markedly different in inflection from the konglish of salcette.
 and venantius is bringing distinctive, good old bombay konglish to the
 table, where 'ot' is absolutely correct, 'dey' talk like 'dat' and 'dere's'
 no denying it.

 btw, men is a pan-goan thing, and does not filter to bombay (etc) at all. it
 took me years to transition to man from men after imbibing this lingo while
 studying at lourdes convent alongside rico.

 'tanks for making me smile,
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Re: [Goanet] Goan Convention in Oman (Fred)

2009-08-05 Thread Francis Rodrigues

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Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training 
and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa 
and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com 
or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html





I used to collect classic tiatr slapstick exchanges in another lifetime. The 
one below
(note: ott = what; ochh = watch!), kept me in stitches for days - think Jacint 
Vaz and Souza Ferrao doing an insanely energetic limbo-like twist, almost 
horizontal!


A:  'Ott dis ??
B:  'Ochh !
A:  'Ott made in ?
B:  Swiss !
A:  C'mon let's dance the twist !

Best,
FR.

On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 Venantius Pinto wrote:
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan Convention in Oman (Fred)
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org

 I was under the impression that the W was silent. Should it not be Ot
 man. Please do not shake my moorings any more bro! As it is I am so far
 away.

 venantius
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan Convention in Oman (Fred)

 (del), Kitem re(h)? Wot men?
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Re: [Goanet] Goan Convention in Oman (Fred)

2009-08-05 Thread Carvalho

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Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training 
and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa 
and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com 
or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html




--- On Wed, 8/5/09, Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न  
 
 Now that the full moon is past, I suspect this is all an
 attempt to
 subvert Eugene's very serious debate about the
 yet-to-be-launched Oman
 meet. Wot men?
 
--
No men, Eugune is still bizzy stirring the pot he tells us. Maybe the sorpatel 
pot and after that he will rehash that pot on Goanet. 

Just remember Eugune, press enter twice to make proper paragraphs. Saves me 
from straining my eyesight.

Best,
selma


  


Re: [Goanet] Goan Convention in Oman (Fred)

2009-08-05 Thread Venantius Pinto

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Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training 
and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa 
and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com 
or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html


This is insanely terrific Francis. I will have it embroidered on a shirt
this coming Oct. For sure. Oh man, this is super. The thinking is
deliciously lateral to say the least. Reminds one of a swaying coconut palm.
The movement begins with the the first question and just takes of. I will
never be able to pass a watch store in NY with this coming to mind.

venantius


 From: Francis Rodrigues fcarodrig...@hotmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan Convention in Oman (Fred)

 I used to collect classic tiatr slapstick exchanges in another lifetime.
 The one below
 (note: ott = what; ochh = watch!), kept me in stitches for days - think
 Jacint Vaz and Souza Ferrao doing an insanely energetic limbo-like twist,
 almost horizontal!


 A:  'Ott dis ??
 B:  'Ochh !
 A:  'Ott made in ?
 B:  Swiss !
 A:  C'mon let's dance the twist !

 Best,
 FR.




Re: [Goanet] Goan Convention in Oman (Fred)

2009-08-04 Thread Eugene Correia

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Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training 
and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa 
and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com 
or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html



Fred wrote:
Trust Eugene to stir up the pot :-) I guess organising such meetings
depends on who is willing to take up the initiative. And, knowing how
we Goans operate, there are many to criticise, but few to fold up
their sleeves and work!

Eugene, another thing: please don't write an obit on me if you get the
chance to. I'd really appreciate that favour :-) FN

*

By his post and his use of smileys, I understand that Fred does not want to 
engage in dialogue or debate. Read carefully and understand that I have made a 
request for the convention to be postponed this year. My criticism is that the 
NRI office should have looked at things all round before making the decision.
I wish Fred would discuss the key issues raised in my post, namely that the 
fund alloted by the Goa government to host the convention be deposited into a 
special fund for NRIs or NRGs who have eitehr return or return in the future 
from the Middle East. 
The theme, The Gulf Goan, is vague. A Gulf Goan is nothing more than one who is 
forced to work there because of more income than he or she would get in Goa or 
rest of India or because the person has failed to get a job in Goa or the rest 
of India. I do not see anything beyound that. The Gulf Goans are not going to 
be there permanently.
The issue of Indians in the Gulf has been raised at the Pravasi Divas forum. 
The Gulf Goan is no exception. He is part and parcel of the NRI population in 
the Middle East.
I would like to ask fellow netters outside Oman if they would go t6 Muscat for 
the convention. This would give us an inkling of what the netters are thinking.
I have opened a debate and Fred wants to run away with the statement that I can 
be trusted to stir the pot. When you are dead before me, you will have no 
authority to block me from writing an obit on you. However, I would in passing 
would like to write what I think of your journalism, especially since I have 
read many of your columns during my recent stay in Goa.
I won't go so far to support some of your critics who have called you a 
cut-and-paste journalist. I won't engage in a dogfight but would debate you 
on the lines of what constitutes good journalism or, rather, provocative 
journalism. And I am using no smileys.

That's all for now.

Eugene


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Re: [Goanet] Goan Convention in Oman (Fred)

2009-08-04 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न ोरोन्या

* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S *


Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training 
and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa 
and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com 
or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html


2009/8/5 Eugene Correia gene_corr...@yahoo.com:
 I won't go so far to support some of your critics who have
 called you a cut-and-paste journalist. I won't engage in
 a dogfight but would debate you on the lines of
 what constitutes good journalism or, rather,
 provocative journalism. And I am using no smileys.

Eugene, Kitem reh? Wot men?

Critics calling me a cut-and-paste journalist? For the record, I
have myself called myself an ethical spammer and skilled
cut-and-paste artist.

Okay, we can have a debate over the claim to some words -- ethical,
skilled, artist. With or without smileys :-) FN
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Re: [Goanet] Goan Convention in Oman (Fred)

2009-08-04 Thread Carvalho

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Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training 
and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa 
and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com 
or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html





--- On Tue, 8/4/09, Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न 
fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Eugene, Kitem reh? Wot men?
 
 Critics calling me a cut-and-paste journalist? For the
 record, I
 have myself called myself an ethical spammer and skilled
 cut-and-paste artist.
 
-
Kiten re FN?

When Eugene says kator ani paste kor, he means kator the verdure and paste kor 
and croquet kor.

Oh God, the Oman Convention is going to be so much fun because Eugene is 
starting early this year, before it's even begun.

Note to NRI Commissioner: Close the open bar :-))

Best,
selma