Re: [Goanet] Much to the chagrin of some Goanetters, the Nobel peace prize winner is...

2009-10-10 Thread Bosco D

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-Original Message-
From: Gabe Menezes

  http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE5981JP20091009

RESPONSE: Now the Nobel Peace Prize laureate cannot wage war and will desert 
the 
Hindu Kush. Will return his troops to Camps on his spread. Will appear impotent 
in 
dealing with rogue nationswe are reminded of January 2013 on a daily 
basis...my-my.Looks more and more like a right-wing 
conspiracy.;-)

Seriously.this is the Nobel Prize committee that failed to recognize 
the 
5-time nominated Mahatma as a Nobel Laureate, even posthumously, albeit the 
Dalai 
Lama and Mandela among others espoused the Gandhian values of non-violence and 
became Nobel Peace Prize laureates.

Another dent in the shine of the Nobels!!

- B










Re: [Goanet] Much to the chagrin of some Goanetters, the Nobel peace prize winner is...

2009-10-10 Thread Frederick Noronha

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The Blood-Stained Prize. Theater of the Absurd (by Missy Comley Beattie):

Is this a bad dream? No, Barack Obama has been awarded the Nobel Peace
Prize. Yet, three days after he took the oath of office, he droned
Pakistan, killing civilians, including children. This continues.  Our
country is engaged in three wars. We have a huge mercenary army,
unaccountable to military law

Read here: http://www.counterpunch.org/beattie10092009.html

2009/10/10 Bosco D bos...@canada.com:

 Seriously.this is the Nobel Prize committee that failed to recognize 
 the
 5-time nominated Mahatma as a Nobel Laureate, even posthumously, albeit the 
 Dalai
 Lama and Mandela among others espoused the Gandhian values of non-violence and
 became Nobel Peace Prize laureates.

 Another dent in the shine of the Nobels!!

-- 
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Writing, editing, alt.publishing, photography, journalism


Re: [Goanet] Much to the chagrin of some Goanetters, the Nobel peace prize winner is...

2009-10-10 Thread Gabe Menezes

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2009/10/10 Bosco D bos...@canada.com



 RESPONSE: Now the Nobel Peace Prize laureate cannot wage war and will
 desert the
 Hindu Kush. Will return his troops to Camps on his spread. Will appear
 impotent in
 dealing with rogue nationswe are reminded of January 2013 on a
 daily
 basis...my-my.Looks more and more like a right-wing
 conspiracy.;-)

 Seriously.this is the Nobel Prize committee that failed to
 recognize the
 5-time nominated Mahatma as a Nobel Laureate, even posthumously, albeit the
 Dalai
 Lama and Mandela among others espoused the Gandhian values of non-violence
 and
 became Nobel Peace Prize laureates.

 Another dent in the shine of the Nobels!!

 - B

 RESPONSE: An excerpt of his acceptance speech in which he alluded, that he
got the award, to prod him into action in the near future

''The US President said that he was really humbled by the choice made by the
Nobel Peace Prize Committee in choosing him as the 2009 recipient. He said
that he was deeply humbled and surprised at the same time.

He said that it was not an individual prize but an affirmation of the
American leadership, and not recognition of his accomplishments as he still
had a lot to do and accomplish. He was fair in saying that he personally
thought that he did not deserve the award , because there were others who
were more deserving than him.

He says that he now has a greater responsibility to use energy and that we
should live in a world where there are no differences on caste, creed or
religion in seeing one another, that there must be a new beginnings in
religions and with mutual interest and respect we must resolve the
conflicts. He said that the world had suffered enough of pain and hardship
and that we must have an unwavering commitment to reduce it. He spoke
passionately about the Palestine hardships.''

Read more:
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/politics/barack-obama-delivers-nobel-peace-prize-acceptance-speech_100258480.html#ixzz0TWacFzOU

That was one hell of a gracious acceptance speech. Let us be magnanimous,
give the man a chance. The men of yesteryear have blood on their hands; over
here in the U.K.  the ex P.M. was soundly berated by the Archbishop and a
man whose son was killed in the on going wars.


-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM.


Re: [Goanet] Much to the chagrin of some Goanetters, the Nobel peace prize winner is...

2009-10-10 Thread Carvalho

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There is something seriously wrong with this Nobel Peace committee to award 
barack obama, the Nobel peace prize even before he could say Camp David or even 
smell the coffee at a serious peace accord conference. This is simply 
ridiculous and too insane for words. Infact from now on the Peace Prize means 
dirt to me. I wouldn't be surprised if Mickey Mouse is awarded the Peace prize 
next.

best,
selma

--- On Sat, 10/10/09, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Is this a bad dream? No, Barack Obama has been awarded the
 Nobel Peace
 Prize. Yet, three days after he took the oath of office, he
 droned
 Pakistan, killing civilians, including children. This
 continues.  Our
 country is engaged in three wars. We have a huge mercenary
 army,
 unaccountable to military law



  


Re: [Goanet] Much to the chagrin of some Goanetters, the Nobel peace prize winner is...

2009-10-10 Thread Frederick Noronha

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Selma, Do you really believe that such awards are not political, and
don't reflect the balance of power in the globe (even if of the only,
and declining, superpower)?

I also think such awards are also influenced a lot by all the media
hype that emerges and makes up our mind for us. When the media turns
hostile to an Obama (as it happens with many politicians in due
course) then all this would be conveniently forgotten.

To be fair to the Nobel industry, I think a Gandhi would have
definitely got a Nobel in his time if only he had a bigger media
machine hyping him (not just the Birlas, later of Hindustan Times
fame, and a handful of others in his time). FN

PS: Compared to a Bush, an Obama has made some interesting statements
and gestures. But there is a lot more action is needed obviously, not
just pious words and good sentiments.

2009/10/10 Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com:

 There is something seriously wrong with this Nobel
 Peace committee to award barack obama, the
 Nobel peace prize even before he could say Camp
 David or even smell the coffee at a serious peace
 accord conference. This is simply ridiculous and
 too insane for words. Infact from now on the
 Peace Prize means dirt to me. I wouldn't be
 surprised if Mickey Mouse is awarded the Peace
 prize next.

-- 
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Writing, editing, alt.publishing, photography, journalism


Re: [Goanet] Much to the chagrin of some Goanetters, the Nobel peace prize winner is...

2009-10-10 Thread Tony de Sa

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From: Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com
There is something seriously wrong with this Nobel Peace committee to award
barack obama, the Nobel peace prize even before he could say Camp David or
even smell the coffee at a serious peace accord conference. This is simply
ridiculous and too insane for words. Infact from now on the Peace Prize
means dirt to me. I wouldn't be surprised if Mickey Mouse is awarded the
Peace prize next.
best, selma

In modern India, we Yindians have coined a special term, tailor made just
for such occasions : MATCH FIXING ;-)

Salaams and may you be 'baraka'

Tony

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[Goanet] Much to the chagrin of some Goanetters, the Nobel peace prize winner is...

2009-10-09 Thread Gabe Menezes

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Re: [Goanet] Much to the chagrin of some Goanetters, the Nobel peace prize winner is...

2009-10-09 Thread Mervyn Lobo

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Gabe,
I am with the camp that wonders what Obama did to deserve the Nobel Peace Prize.
 

Last years winner was a more popular one among Tanzanian Goans as he did 
entertain us,
and vice-versa, when he was the Finnish Ambassador to Tanzania. One person on 
the
Tanzanite Goan site also mentioned that the Ambassador was present at his 
engagement
reception.


Returning to Obama, I think one of the reasons he won is because he is the most 
European
of US Presidents. Obama wants to introduce European style medical care, paid 
annual leave 
and other social security benefits to the US. 
 

The other reason he won is probably because he invited waring fractions to the 
White House
for a beer. If that ploy worked with hard core American antagonists then there 
is the very real 
possibility that hard core Jewish and Muslim residents of Israel could come to 
some type of 
agreement over a couple of beers too. Anyone capable of bring peace to that 
region does 
deserve recognition. It does not mater, to me, if the recognition is before or 
after peace 
is achieved.
 
 
Now the reason for this post. 
I think Obama should have won the Nobel prize for economics. 
Anyone who could stop the rot George Bush (43) set into the US economy really
deserves that economic prize. Obama has put a stop to the downward economic
spiral the US was in. Turning that economy around i.e. turning the 
budget deficits 
from  the position it is into a positive one really requires the strength of a 
dozen
of the Greek Gods.   


Mervyn1650Lobo
PS. the talk in the US today, is that the constitution should be amended so 
that 
Obama could be nominated 'President for life.' He is proven to be a national
treasure. 


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