Re: [Goanet] Swines and Swindon
August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary Aye saaiba. kitem saangche tum-ka. Yes Fred, the termgoichi if I am not mistaken is used by SB (saraswat brahmins) who are spread over the Konkan to address SB's (their gurls are quiet sundari *wink wink*...if you know what I mean) from the Goa area. In Carwar where I sometimes spend time (feesh is cheaper here you know), its commonly used to refer to folks from north of the border. I think nothing wrong with Goich. Say no offense but I tot Xembuh Moidekar's post was naughty in title but tot-provoking and fine reading coming from north of the Zuari. My pet pigling Catrina and me have been reading it over and overand Catrina has put it to song; I'll post on you tube shortly. Reading all those discussions on the US health care and God and God-not on the GoaNet does not cut in for me: I am on the GoaNet 'cause I want to read Goan! I think we should lighten up a bitculturally, we are a joyful peoples no? Unfortunately it made one sick in the stomach to read the Selma's account of the life of Swindon Goans in the Herald a while ago. Its a harsh reality and the description of the smell from the chicken plant is etched in my memory. So perhaps Xembu was right in dishing out a little advice I would think. Aye, the good Doo-tor from the islands had something to say about pseudonym. I don't want get on his wrong side (Doo-tors and the injection brings fear of God, needle mixed with cold sweat in me)but isn't putting masks part of Goan story telling, our folk lore. From the dusty villages of Salcette, we roam during intruz with masks and play characters, long forgotten dead characters...Senor Dorado from Utorda Moodar will remember the late Cyril whose one-man act (as his dead aunt) drove the village kids crazy with excitement and frightful joy. Its our style of narrative, of story telling as an alter ego...or something like that. Best regards from the land of choris-pau-a-plenty, Mississauga. 2009/8/29 Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या fredericknoro...@gmail.com: August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary 2009/8/29 Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com: You demean all Moidekars and all Goychis with your crab mentality and 'free advice'. And one for the way: Why do you hide behind the skirts of a pseudonym? Arrey baba Tony, is the usage Goychis right? If I'm not mistaken, this usage (or another variation of it) was first brought up by amcho own Pandu Lapiao. Is it a right form of address? Just curious? FN -- FN +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 Konkani adages http://konkani-adages.notlong.com/ Medieval Goa http://medieval-goa.notlong.com/
Re: [Goanet] Swines and Swindon
August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary Hello Tony, I managed to read this; thanks to Goanet. Pls elaborate on this - ? Thanks you God Bless, Ashley D'Silva -Original Message- From: goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org [mailto:goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org] On Behalf Of Tony de Sa Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:10 PM To: Goa's Premiere Mailing List, Estd 1994 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Swines and Swindon August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary From: xembuh Moidekar moideka...@yahoo.co.in My caring advice and free advice that too is that in to-days world no one loves no one.. Arre Innocent Xannia Xembhulia. Pixea re pixea, Moidekara pixea! Why are you policing the aspirations and hopes of the poor Goychis in Swinedon? Arre Baba why are you demeaning the choriskars? Don't you relish amchi goychim chorisam? And why are you giving them bad free advice? When you were sitting in the ante chamber of Goa's most powerful minister, you could not spare them the time of the day. Why the sudden philanthropy now? Any why demean the poor sanitation workers? Calling them terms like 'bongi' displays extreme bad taste. Did you once not emigrate for better pastures? You demean all Moidekars and all Goychis with your crab mentality and 'free advice'. And one for the way: Why do you hide behind the skirts of a pseudonym? -- Tony de Sa Ph: +91 832 2470 148 M: +91 9975162897 E: tonyd...@gmail.com In a world without fences, who needs Gates?
Re: [Goanet] Swines and Swindon: an undiluted ZUPATTI!
August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary You advice? Who needs the demned commodity? Whoever scribed this boorish, obscene, self-seeking comments on the obtaining realities of life of our Goans in Swindon, or for that matter anywhere they are endeavouring to better their lives, even if this creatures weird sick fantasies, hold any rapport with realities, displays a befouled, wrotten cess-poolish mind. He/she has no historical ...none at all...notion, how, over the millenia, immigrating masses, seeking ammelioration in life, have had to bear in- human, -conceivable ordeals, and shouldering them with invincible courage and determination have overcome innumerable herculaen hurddles encountered and overcome them. Shame on you...nerd, if, indeed, you possess even infitessimal iota of sensitivity, you could do far worse than cover yourself with the matter you are so damnably contemptuous of, but which is as much a part of life as breathing air, drinking water and requiring food. For you, a sound bio-degradation mayalbeit, most dubiously...do you a bit good, yet render you a deggree of salubrity. You have not an inkling of the nobble nature of Goan off-shore workers of yore: Our sailors -- 'shippies' -- always, exemplarilly maintained a formidable dignity and enviable solidarity among their vast fraternity... Each and all of them, could not land the few...rare plum jobs aboard, available to the ratings; many did the odd, but essential jobs, that had to be done. But, would any one ever disclose the nature of the job done by any of their confréres? Never, it was an absolute taboo, that if broken would be met by an ordeal tantamount to being tarred and feathered: Certainly, an unendurable ostracising the boor, aboard, not just the ship he was next appointed to, but all others as well. I know what I am talking about. I have known the fraternity extensively and intimately: through my innumerable school college...etc., mates but also during my many, most lovingly remembered visits, during the last 40+ years aboard Canbera, Oriana, Himalaya many others...when the several hundred Goan members of the respective tripulation lavished me with love, home-food, torrents of booze...an unforgettable ever enduring friendship Alfred de Tavares, Stockholm, Sweden. Tel: 0046 8 759 6214; Cell: 0046 8 295 40 91 Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 21:25:47 +0530 From: fredericknoro...@gmail.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Swines and Swindon 2009/8/29 Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com: You demean all Moidekars and all Goychis with your crab mentality and 'free advice'. And one for the way: Why do you hide behind the skirts of a pseudonym? Arrey baba Tony, is the usage Goychis right? If I'm not mistaken, this usage (or another variation of it) was first brought up by amcho own Pandu Lapiao. Is it a right form of address? Just curious? FN -- FN +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 Konkani adages http://konkani-adages.notlong.com/ Medieval Goa http://medieval-goa.notlong.com/ _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx
Re: [Goanet] Swines and Swindon
August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary From: xembuh Moidekar moideka...@yahoo.co.in My caring advice and free advice that too is that in to-days world no one loves no one.. Arre Innocent Xannia Xembhulia. Pixea re pixea, Moidekara pixea! Why are you policing the aspirations and hopes of the poor Goychis in Swinedon? Arre Baba why are you demeaning the choriskars? Don't you relish amchi goychim chorisam? And why are you giving them bad free advice? When you were sitting in the ante chamber of Goa's most powerful minister, you could not spare them the time of the day. Why the sudden philanthropy now? Any why demean the poor sanitation workers? Calling them terms like 'bongi' displays extreme bad taste. Did you once not emigrate for better pastures? You demean all Moidekars and all Goychis with your crab mentality and 'free advice'. And one for the way: Why do you hide behind the skirts of a pseudonym? -- Tony de Sa Ph: +91 832 2470 148 M: +91 9975162897 E: tonyd...@gmail.com In a world without fences, who needs Gates?
[Goanet] Swines, and swindon
August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary ' Why cannot we make a livin' in Goa? There are fields which have been stolen fromBakars lie uncultivated. Why can't people be like us Moidekars?Why can't we work hard?So the next time the Portuguese passport service providers rob of your euros and rupees think twicestay in Goa, be like a Goan, and you will save yourselv fromSWINDON FLU Be happy don't worry. X B Moidekar. --- The Bove pisso moidekar has never been to UK. He has got some inkling after reading the letter from Menino that he met a man working at the airport (but I assure you not in the toilets). Well, I have lived at Heathrow area for 30 years and I have not SEEN one Goan work in the toilets. Yes, seen a few with gold chains round their necks (typical Goan) work the trollies, they come and go. This moidekar, has shown his true colours, 'a moidekar'. And as for JC there was no need for the shermao, those who have lived in UK gone to college 'done it, seen, it worn the T shirt', know it all. This extra info just gives PIXE to write nonsense, free on Goanet. Presently I know of a Pakistani who worked at the post office sorting mail for 3 years, he was educated in USA in Computing. He has now got a good job in computing and doing well. People who have lived in the west know the problems. Pixe from Goa writing this stupidity on Goanet are JUST JEALOUS. Caj.
Re: [Goanet] Swines and Swindon
August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary 2009/8/29 Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com: You demean all Moidekars and all Goychis with your crab mentality and 'free advice'. And one for the way: Why do you hide behind the skirts of a pseudonym? Arrey baba Tony, is the usage Goychis right? If I'm not mistaken, this usage (or another variation of it) was first brought up by amcho own Pandu Lapiao. Is it a right form of address? Just curious? FN -- FN +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 Konkani adages http://konkani-adages.notlong.com/ Medieval Goa http://medieval-goa.notlong.com/
[Goanet] Swines, and swindon
August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary Swindon is a a place where the Goans from Goa Velha have carved from themselves a few niches. Many of our country cousins after paying the lawyers the unscrupulous portuguese passport service providers or the dirty middlemen have been robbed, and even cheated and made to wait. The lucky few have managed to slip into the UK and Swindon has been their place. Swindon is a small goa for many they crave for jobs, some Goans bribe the British officials who are now contaminated with our way of life - who cares? The old ladies who work as nannies and house maids after leaving their government jobs where they used to really for for just 30 minutes a day, chat for the rest of the time, now slog just like we make the Kannada Migrants work in our toilets. Many of the ladies who used to help to slaughter pigs and manufacture sausages now work as toilet cleaners a job which we shun in goa as bongi jobs do not mind being paid 4 to 5 quid an hour! Of late and due to the economic meltdown many of our gaanv baav are employed in the airports and parking lotsSome have done their MA in microbiology and even passed out in the Goa University after thei post-graduate degrees. My caring advice and free advice that too is that in to-days world no one loves no one... Much is said and done but more is said than done... We live in a world of easy living, and it is no longer summer time with the easy living' Why cannot we make a livin' in Goa? There are fields which have been stolen from Bakars lie uncultivated. Why can't people be like us Moidekars? Why can't we work hard? So the next time the Portuguese passport service providers rob of your euros and rupees think twicestay in Goa, be like a Goan, and you will save yourselv from SWINDON FLU Be happy don't worry. X B Moidekar. See the Web#39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Yahoo! Buzz. http://in.buzz.yahoo.com/
Re: [Goanet] Swines and swindon
August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary xembuh Moidekar wrote thus: Of late and due to the economic meltdown many of our gaanv baav are employed in the airports and parking lotsSome have done their MA in microbiology and even PASSED OUT in the Goa University after thei post-graduate degrees --- jc's No tongue in chick RESPONSE: Dear Xembuh, I truly appreciate the GoaNet 'moderators' for allowing a post courtesy a pseudonym. I applaud their commitment to the freedom of expression. I also appreciate the advice you have given to Goans who expect to get higher level employment abroad without the qualifications and experience needed by the host country. It is worth reiterating that a mere Portuguese passport does not guarantee anything besides entry into the EC. Goans would do well to study hard and achieve the best they can achieve. And many Goans do. Some of them who are based in Swindon. Having said that, I applaud ANY Goan who commits to working ANY job anywhere. The UK is full of Punjabis who initially worked in the rest rooms at Heathrow Airport so that their children could achieve their dreams. A similar story for the Gujratis and Bangladeshis who came and worked all kinds of hours in tiny corner-shops or in hot and poorly-ventilated Curry-Take-Away kitchens. They sacrificed for their children. And their children have done them proud. These 'desis' who came as workers - now are owners, employing the next-cheapest labour available i.e. Eastern Europeans. It is OK to decide for one NOT to venture into the unknown and be happy with the predictable. That is one's right. But let us not knock those who work in whatever jobs they can work in - IF that is part of their plan. Trust me, IF they work hard, they will make it. The West also allows 'workers' to one day become 'owners'. (Reminds me of Moti, the proprietor of Marietta Restaurant in Panjim. He started off as a waiter at Venite and courtesy of funding from overseas...worked his way to own his own restaurant) Now, one qualification which will not get anyone (Goan or otherwise) anywhere particular ... is the MA in Microbiology from Goa University. This is because Goa University offers no such degree. Honestly, it would be hard to imagine any university worth its salt offering such a degree. Even so, I must say that it must be the summer heat + the stress of studying in Goa which caused them to Pass Out IN Goa University AFTER their post-graduate degrees. I have to wonder what went on there! BTW: I thought that I'd kind of review what this term Passed Out actually meant. Attached is what I found. good wishes jc PS: Is it possible that Goanet has changed one of its rules since Herman Carneiro last posted the Goanet Rules and Guidelines which included Rule # 5: Use your real name as the Sender, not an alias ? NOW ...here is what I found out about PASSED OUT; am almost sure that Konklish has another definition for that phrase. http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/passed%20out Main Entry: PASSED OUT Part of Speech: adjective Definition: unconscious Synonyms: anesthetized, asleep, blacked out, comatose, dead to the world, knocked out, out cold, out like a light == http://www.wordwebonline.com/en/PASS OUT Verb: pass out ( pãs awt ) PASS OUT from weakness, physical or emotional distress due to a loss of blood supply to the brain - faint, conk, swoon Give to several people i.e. The teacher PASSED OUT the exams
