Re: [google-appengine] Set up Google Cloud SDK or App Engine SDK or both for development?

[Kaan Soral]

By serene, I mean development should be fun and simple

You should probably start 
here: 
https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/php/tools/using-local-server

Finding dev_appserver.py is going to be a bit challenging tho, If you were 
on Linux, this would probably be the way to 
go: https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/php/download#php_linux

On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 1:16:29 AM UTC+3, Richard Bernstein wrote:
>
> I am glad you added this comment. I am not sure what you mean by serene 
> manner? What I think you just said (and tell me if I misunderstood) is 
> develop with your favorite sdk on your local pc, and when you are done use 
> command line tools to upload it and set it up. In my case my code is php 
> under Windows so I should find and use App Engine PHP SDK for Windows to 
> upload and configure. Did I get this right? And not bother with phpstorm 
> for app engine?
>
>
> On May 18, 2018, at 17:54, Kaan Soral  
> wrote:
>
>
> Not really on topic, but as some sane and simplifying advice - It's best 
> to move away from IDE's like Eclipse
>
> Their purpose is to simplify development, but from your experiences too, 
> it's clear that they don't deliver on their promises, and complicate things 
> instead
>
> I'd suggest you to write the code with whatever IDE you prefer, then use 
> the command line tools separately in a serene manner
>
> My personal choice is the App Engine Python SDK for Linux, even though I'm 
> on macOS (it includes pure code, no installer, just pure python code, 
> granted things are usually more complicated for Java, but the same 
> experience might apply) - You might give it a try, and if it doesn't work, 
> you can always go back to Eclipse
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Re: [google-appengine] Set up Google Cloud SDK or App Engine SDK or both for development?

[Richard Bernstein]

I am glad you added this comment. I am not sure what you mean by serene manner? 
What I think you just said (and tell me if I misunderstood) is develop with 
your favorite sdk on your local pc, and when you are done use command line 
tools to upload it and set it up. In my case my code is php under Windows so I 
should find and use App Engine PHP SDK for Windows to upload and configure. Did 
I get this right? And not bother with phpstorm for app engine?

On May 18, 2018, at 17:54, Kaan Soral  wrote:

Not really on topic, but as some sane and simplifying advice - It's best to 
move away from IDE's like Eclipse


Their purpose is to simplify development, but from your experiences too, it's 
clear that they don't deliver on their promises, and complicate things instead


I'd suggest you to write the code with whatever IDE you prefer, then use the 
command line tools separately in a serene manner


My personal choice is the App Engine Python SDK for Linux, even though I'm on 
macOS (it includes pure code, no installer, just pure python code, granted 
things are usually more complicated for Java, but the same experience might 
apply) - You might give it a try, and if it doesn't work, you can always go 
back to Eclipse

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[google-appengine] following directions for using "Getting Started with PhpStorm as Google App Engine PHP IDE"

[Richard Bernstein]

I am following the directions. It says I need:


   - Google App Engine SDK for PHP 
   

  
 version 2.7  
   

Re: [google-appengine] Set up Google Cloud SDK or App Engine SDK or both for development?

[Kaan Soral]

Not really on topic, but as some sane and simplifying advice - It's best to 
move away from IDE's like Eclipse

Their purpose is to simplify development, but from your experiences too, 
it's clear that they don't deliver on their promises, and complicate things 
instead

I'd suggest you to write the code with whatever IDE you prefer, then use 
the command line tools separately in a serene manner

My personal choice is the App Engine Python SDK for Linux, even though I'm 
on macOS (it includes pure code, no installer, just pure python code, 
granted things are usually more complicated for Java, but the same 
experience might apply) - You might give it a try, and if it doesn't work, 
you can always go back to Eclipse

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[google-appengine] Advice on GCA or GAE to host a website ?

[Vianney Lejeune]

Hello,


I intend to install a website which contains those specifications:

   - PHP 5.3+  
   - MySQLi extension (enabled by default on most hosts)  
   - cURL 


It is a bit short for me, but obviously it needs a database, apache or 
nginx, and the others tools necessary to support a web server + sending 
emails (via SMTP or sendmail).


I am unsure if I should use:

   - Google Cloud Engine 
   - Google App Engine 

And more importantly some pre-packaged exists to install on those 
infrastructure/platform, and which one, reputable and automatically updated 
?


As a note, I would like much more to focus on the business and website 
features instead or managing the actual OS and associated software.


Thanks for your help.

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[google-appengine] Should I install my website on GCA or GAE ?

[Vianney Lejeune]

Hello,


I intend to install a website which contains those specifications:

   - PHP 5.3+  
   - MySQLi extension (enabled by default on most hosts)  
   - cURL 


It is a bit short for me, but obviously it needs a database, apache or 
nginx, and the others tools necessary to support a web server + sending 
emails (via SMTP or sendmail).


I am unsure if I should use:

   - Google Cloud Engine 
   - Google App Engine 

And more importantly some pre-packaged exists to install on those 
infrastructure/platform, and which one, reputable and automatically updated 
?


As a note, I would like much more to focus on the business and website 
features instead or managing the actual OS and associated software.


Thanks for your help.

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[google-appengine] Advice on GCA or GAE to host a website

[Vianney Lejeune]

Hello,


I intend to install a website which contains those specifications:

   - PHP 5.3+  
   - MySQLi extension (enabled by default on most hosts)  
   - cURL 


It is a bit short for me, but obviously it needs a database, apache or 
nginx, and the others tools necessary to support a web server + sending 
emails (via SMTP or sendmail).


I am unsure if I should use:

   - Google Cloud Engine 
   - Google App Engine 

And more importantly some pre-packaged exists to install on those 
infrastructure/platform, and which one, reputable and automatically updated 
?


As a note, I would like much more to focus on the business and website 
features instead or managing the actual OS and associated software.


Thanks for your help.

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[google-appengine] Re: Using App Engine Flexible behind a CDN (Fastly)

['George (Cloud Platform Support)' via Google App Engine]

You are right, Cloud CDN content can originate from Google Compute Engine 
virtual machine (VM) instance groups or from Google Cloud Storage buckets. 
This is one option. If you prefer alternatively to use Fastly in the 
configuration already described, you are encouraged to log a feature 
request in the public tracker  by 
including content already present here, and a reference to this groups 
thread. If you need more assistance, or if you prefer us to open this 
feature request instead, you are welcome to reply accordingly. 

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[google-appengine] Re: gRPC on Google App Engine

['Jordan (Cloud Platform Support)' via Google App Engine]

Currently App Engine does not support incoming gRPC connections (also 
listed here 
as a 
limitation for App Engine endpoints communications). The engineering team 
is aware of this and are working hard on providing a solution for gRPC use. 

In the meantime, outbound client support for gRPC is available, and can be 
seen in use by the Google Cloud Client Libraries 
. These official 
libraries are being developed to support outbound requests via gRPC to 
Google Cloud services from any client environment (including App Engine, 
e.g shown here for Java 8 

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Re: [google-appengine] Set up Google Cloud SDK or App Engine SDK or both for development?

['George (Cloud Platform Support)' via Google App Engine]

As mentioned, while installing the tools, the installer searches your 
computer for the Cloud SDK. If it can't find the SDK, then it automatically 
downloads the latest version of the SDK. You don't have to worry 
specifically about this install, and allow the Cloud Tools for Eclipse to 
automatically manage the SDK for you. 

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[google-appengine] Re: google app engine slow and timing out

['Jordan (Cloud Platform Support)' via Google App Engine]

502 errors are often caused due to your application code being too busy to 
respond to nginx (the webserver that sits in front of your app that accepts 
and routes requests to and from your app). 

Nginx will return a 502 back to the load balancer which is returned back to 
the client if it is not able to communicate with your app. It is therefore 
recommended to ensure that you are properly coding for Node-js and that you 
are not blocking the Node-js Event Loop 
 in order to 
always respond to nginx. 

If your application becomes too busy, and doesn't make time to accept and 
respond to health checks from nginx, nginx will stop communicating with 
your application and render it as unhealthy (and attempt to restart it, in 
turn stopping all requests it was handling). A busy application will also 
force new incoming requests to wait until previous requests have completed. 
This will cause increased latency for each new incoming request as they 
each wait in the pending queue for room on your instance.

You can use the App Engine Dashboard  
to view the resource 
usage, latency, and traffic patterns of your app, and pinpoint a timestamp 
with high latency. Then use the Stackdriver Log viewer 
 to see what happened in your 
code at that timestamp. Just ensure you choose the 'nginx.error', 
'nginx.request', 'stderr', and 'stdout' log options to see all incoming 
requests, errors, and debug output from your application. If a request 
receives a 502, this means it never made it to your application (since 
nginx couldn't reach it), and the logs will therefore be seen at the 
loadbalancer level (by selecting the 'Cloud HTTP Load Balancer' logs and 
not 'GAE Application' logs). 

- Note: Google Groups is reserved for general product discussions and not 
for technical support. For further technical support it is recommended to 
post your detailed questions  to 
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[google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine Standard - OSError: [Errno 28] No space left on device

['George (Cloud Platform Support)' via Google App Engine]

It may be worthwhile checking some examples of everyday uses, intended for 
Cloud Shell, as detailed on the Cloud Shell "Examples" document 
. 

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: recommended path for moving php Application to GC App engine

[Richard Bernstein]

Thanks George. Using PhpStorm would be so much easier for me.

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 1:08 PM, 'George (Cloud Platform Support)' via
Google App Engine  wrote:

> You may find a few tutorials on the web, specifically covering PhpStorm in
> the app engine development environment, such as this one
> .
> If you prefer using Eclipse, it may prove worthwhile reading the "Deploying
> App Engine Standard Applications from Eclipse" documentation page
> . The Cloud SDK offers
> you a dev_appserver to run your app locally prior to deploying. In case
> using Eclipse is not a must, you can simply follow the tutorials and quick
> starts linked to from the "PHP on Google App Engine" page
> .
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Re: [google-appengine] gcloud beta app deploy : This deployment has too many files

[Lourdu rajan]

Hi Ani Hatzis,

Could you provide some steps to make my code as public, so that I can
upload my code for your exploration.

Yeah, my gCloud SDK is up-to date.

Regards
Lourdu Rajan G

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:12 PM, Ani Hatzis  wrote:

> Ok, beta makes sense then and maybe it's really just a bug. If your code
> is public I could try to deploy myself into a temporary project and see if
> the deployment gives me the same error. Have you ever used Cloud Shell
> ? It makes reproducing such
> steps very easy and it comes with pre-installed tools. Just to be sure the
> problem is not related to the local environment, e.g. outdated or broken
> Cloud SDK.
>
> Regards,
> Ani
>
>
> On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 5:07:42 PM UTC+2, Lourdu rajan wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ani Hatzis,
>>
>> Thanks for your reply.
>>
>> I am trying to publish my code as Endpoint Services in Google Flex
>> Environment. Currently Endpoint backend deploy methodlogy is in beta
>> version. So "gcloud beta app deploy" command used for deploying my code
>> into the Flex environment.
>>
>> I also tried to publish the code with specifying the app.yaml file in the
>> gcloud command (i.e. gcloud beta app deploy app.yaml), but still got the
>> same issue.
>>
>> If you would like, then I may be share the code.
>>
>> Also implemented below items inthis code,
>>
>> - Swagger Docs
>> - OpenAPI file for Endpoint
>> - OAuth Security in OpenAPI file as Security Definition
>> - Encode/Decode for Database credentials in app.yaml
>> - Swagger Project structure
>>
>> Do you think any of these item may cause for this issue?, because your
>> sample code from Git
>> works
>> fine for me.
>>
>> Regards
>> Lourdu Rajan G
>>
>> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 3:39 AM, Ani Hatzis  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> well, that doesn't sound like 10,000+ files. If it's a bug you could
>>> file a report in the Public Issue Tracker
>>> . Is there a particular reason that
>>> you use gcloud *beta* app deploy instead of gcloud app deploy? The
>>> first one gives you the commands that are still in beta, the latter one the
>>> commands that are GA. And my last question: Do you have used gcloud
>>> beta app deploy with nothing else? I believe that if you don't specify
>>> the location, e.g. gcloud app deploy src/app.yaml, the command will try
>>> to automatically detect where the app is, and maybe it gets confused and
>>> tries to upload some other path with 10,000+ files.
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>> Ani
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 9:11:36 PM UTC+2, Lourdu rajan wrote:

 Hi Ani Hatzis,

 Thanks for your reply.

 I don't have any process like file storage or file processing. Just
 trying to deploy my code into the Google app engine flexible environment, 
 which
 has basic functionality and it's reference. Like, app.yaml, openapi.yaml,
 app.js, db.js, package.json and node modules (reference). I checked the
 file size of each files, its all just below 250 kB.

 Any other solutions/suggestions please.

 Regards,
 Lourdu Rajan G

 On Wed 16 May, 2018, 12:02 AM Ani Hatzis,  wrote:

> Does your app deployment indeed include more than 10,000 files? You
> cannot deploy an app with more than 10,000 files. The deployment is
> supposed to contain mainly code and configuration files. You probably want
> to also host a bunch of other files (images, PDFs etc.) and have added 
> them
> to the deployment, I guess. You would not include them in the deployment.
> Instead you can host these files in Cloud Storage
>  or Firebase Hosting
> .
>
> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 7:01 PM Lourdu rajan 
> wrote:
>
>> I got the below error, when I tried to deploy my Google Cloud Flex
>> Environment Endpoint project (NodeJs) through gcloud command (gcloud beta
>> app deploy).
>>
>> ERROR: (gcloud.beta.app.deploy) INVALID_ARGUMENT: This deployment has
>> too many files. New versions are limited to 1 files for this app.-
>> '@type': type.googleapis.com/google.rpc.BadRequest fieldViolations:
>> - description: This deployment has too many files.
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[google-appengine] Re: recommended path for moving php Application to GC App engine

['George (Cloud Platform Support)' via Google App Engine]

You may find a few tutorials on the web, specifically covering PhpStorm in 
the app engine development environment, such as this one 
.
 
If you prefer using Eclipse, it may prove worthwhile reading the "Deploying 
App Engine Standard Applications from Eclipse" documentation page 
. The Cloud SDK offers you 
a dev_appserver to run your app locally prior to deploying. In case using 
Eclipse is not a must, you can simply follow the tutorials and quick starts 
linked to from the "PHP on Google App Engine" page 
. 

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[google-appengine] recommended path for moving php Application to GC App engine

[Richard Bernstein]

I have a php app that was developed under Windows using jetbrain's 
phpStorm. Seems to run well. I want to move it over to GC App Engine. What 
is the recommended path? Should I install and set it up on my windows PC in 
a box using Cloud Tools for Eclipse and once that is working bring it up to 
GC? 


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[google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine Standard - OSError: [Errno 28] No space left on device

[Attila-Mihaly Balazs]

Hello Linh,

You don't need CloudShell to use/deploy/run AppEngine. So the space running 
out on CloudShell has no effect on how/if the Google Appengine Standard 
application is running.

Attila

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[google-appengine] gRPC on Google App Engine

[Mikael Hjalmarson]

Hi,

Is it possible to use gRPC to communicate between services in the App 
Engine Standard Environment? It seems like it was impossible in the java 7 
runtime, but what about the new runtime? 

Best regards
Mikael

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[google-appengine] Re: Using App Engine Flexible behind a CDN (Fastly)

[Alex G]

@George, is Google Cloud CDN compatible with App Engine (Flexible)? I 
thought it was just possible to use it with GCE.


On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 1:57:16 PM UTC+2, Alex G wrote:
>
> We are currently using Fastly as our CDN that reads from the origin App 
> Engine Flexible (GAE) app. When trying to enable a TLS connection between 
> Fastly and GAE, we have noticed that ghs.googlehosted.com does not 
> support TLS. We have also tried using myapp.appspot.com as the origin, 
> but a 404 is returned. It seems related to the *Host* HTTP header, which 
> is not supported in this case.
>
> Is there any alternative to ghs.googlehosted.com that we could use that 
> supports TLS?
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[google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine Standard - OSError: [Errno 28] No space left on device

[Linh T.]

Hi Attilia,

Thanks for your information.

A quick look seems to indicate that the .NET framework installer had left 
> some big temporary files there.
>
Yes, i see it. But GAE standard, i use Python and i only deploy small code 
(Python Flask). And i only test ab benchmark from local (my laptop): ab -c 
10 -n 1 -k
and then tmp on disk data be full 30/30 and then I stop test and not do 
anything, but tmp disk size be changed more times: 30/30 -> 27/30 -> 22/30 
-> 24/30. Today, i login, and see 22/30.

 

> If so, please note that this is a temporary instance allocated to run 
> light-weight tasks: https://cloud.google.com/shell/docs/limitations
>
I also have meet 1 issue: 

If you do not access Cloud Shell for 120 days, we will delete your home 
> disk. You will receive an email notification before we do so and simply 
> starting a session will prevent its removal. 

If i deploy API on GAE production, and then API be stable, and i never or 
rarely change/deploy code => i don't need login Cloudshell after code be 
stable. If i miss email or i handover to somebody,...Code will be deleted 
on GAE. From my point view, GAE Standard make us not focus on server 
monitor, but "If you do not access Cloud Shell for 120 days, we will delete 
your home disk.", we still must to take time for it.

Thanks,
 

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[google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine Standard - OSError: [Errno 28] No space left on device

[Attila-Mihaly Balazs]

Hello Linh,

Thank you for the update. Do I understand correctly that the machine which 
is having problems with the free space is your cloud shell instance? (ie. a 
small virtual machine which is allocated for you to play around with 
different tools - https://cloud.google.com/shell/docs/)

If so, please note that this is a temporary instance allocated to run 
light-weight tasks: https://cloud.google.com/shell/docs/limitations

A quick look seems to indicate that the .NET framework installer had left 
some big temporary files there.

Attila

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