Re: [GRASS-dev] g.mlist sep= or fs= ?

2012-09-09 Thread Markus Metz
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org wrote:
 Hi,

 me and some of my course participants (GeoSTAT 2012) stumbled over
 the change of sep= to fs= in GRASS 7.

 While ...

 On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Hamish hamis...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Huidae Cho wrote:
 When I first wrote the original script, I also thought about fs=.  But,
 you're right, there are no fields to separate, and that's why it's been
 separator=.

 ok, reverted.

 Hamish

 it has become again fs=...
 http://grass.osgeo.org/grass70/manuals/html70_user/g.mlist.html

 In a quick poll in my course the people (being R savvy) all voted for
 separator=, also to keep consistency with R! (and GRASS 6 btw).

 I would strongly suggest to change all fs= in GRASS 7 (several modules)
 to separator= before it propagates more.

Reverted back to separator in r53139.

Markus M


 Bonus: no script breakage from GRASS 6 to 7.

 Markus
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Re: [GRASS-dev] g.mlist sep= or fs= ?

2012-09-09 Thread Markus Neteler
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Markus Metz
markus.metz.gisw...@gmail.com wrote:
...
 Reverted back to separator in r53139.

Thanks - I have updated now the related HTML manuals.

MarkusN
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Re: [GRASS-dev] g.mlist sep= or fs= ?

2012-09-06 Thread Huidae Cho
+1 for separator.

Yes, I'm still here. ;-)

On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 10:09:40AM +0200, Markus Neteler wrote:
 Hi,
 
 me and some of my course participants (GeoSTAT 2012) stumbled over
 the change of sep= to fs= in GRASS 7.
 
 While ...
 
 On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Hamish hamis...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Huidae Cho wrote:
  When I first wrote the original script, I also thought about fs=.  But,
  you're right, there are no fields to separate, and that's why it's been
  separator=.
 
  ok, reverted.
 
  Hamish
 
 it has become again fs=...
 http://grass.osgeo.org/grass70/manuals/html70_user/g.mlist.html
 
 In a quick poll in my course the people (being R savvy) all voted for
 separator=, also to keep consistency with R! (and GRASS 6 btw).
 
 I would strongly suggest to change all fs= in GRASS 7 (several modules)
 to separator= before it propagates more.
 
 Bonus: no script breakage from GRASS 6 to 7.
 
 Markus
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Re: [GRASS-dev] g.mlist sep= or fs= ?

2012-09-06 Thread Markus Metz
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Huidae Cho gras...@gmail.com wrote:
 +1 for separator.

+1

Markus M


 Yes, I'm still here. ;-)

 On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 10:09:40AM +0200, Markus Neteler wrote:
 Hi,

 me and some of my course participants (GeoSTAT 2012) stumbled over
 the change of sep= to fs= in GRASS 7.

 While ...

 On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Hamish hamis...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Huidae Cho wrote:
  When I first wrote the original script, I also thought about fs=.  But,
  you're right, there are no fields to separate, and that's why it's been
  separator=.
 
  ok, reverted.
 
  Hamish

 it has become again fs=...
 http://grass.osgeo.org/grass70/manuals/html70_user/g.mlist.html

 In a quick poll in my course the people (being R savvy) all voted for
 separator=, also to keep consistency with R! (and GRASS 6 btw).

 I would strongly suggest to change all fs= in GRASS 7 (several modules)
 to separator= before it propagates more.

 Bonus: no script breakage from GRASS 6 to 7.

 Markus
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Re: [GRASS-dev] g.mlist sep= or fs= ?

2012-09-06 Thread Martin Landa
2012/9/6 Markus Metz markus.metz.gisw...@gmail.com:
 On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Huidae Cho gras...@gmail.com wrote:
 +1 for separator.

 +1

same here, Martin

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Re: [GRASS-dev] g.mlist sep= or fs= ?

2012-09-05 Thread Markus Neteler
Hi,

me and some of my course participants (GeoSTAT 2012) stumbled over
the change of sep= to fs= in GRASS 7.

While ...

On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Hamish hamis...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Huidae Cho wrote:
 When I first wrote the original script, I also thought about fs=.  But,
 you're right, there are no fields to separate, and that's why it's been
 separator=.

 ok, reverted.

 Hamish

it has become again fs=...
http://grass.osgeo.org/grass70/manuals/html70_user/g.mlist.html

In a quick poll in my course the people (being R savvy) all voted for
separator=, also to keep consistency with R! (and GRASS 6 btw).

I would strongly suggest to change all fs= in GRASS 7 (several modules)
to separator= before it propagates more.

Bonus: no script breakage from GRASS 6 to 7.

Markus
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Re: [GRASS-dev] g.mlist sep= or fs= ?

2012-09-05 Thread Chemin, Yann (IWMI)
+1 for separator=

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Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] g.mlist sep= or fs= ?

Hi,

me and some of my course participants (GeoSTAT 2012) stumbled over
the change of sep= to fs= in GRASS 7.

While ...

On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Hamish hamis...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Huidae Cho wrote:
 When I first wrote the original script, I also thought about fs=.  But,
 you're right, there are no fields to separate, and that's why it's been
 separator=.

 ok, reverted.

 Hamish

it has become again fs=...
http://grass.osgeo.org/grass70/manuals/html70_user/g.mlist.html

In a quick poll in my course the people (being R savvy) all voted for
separator=, also to keep consistency with R! (and GRASS 6 btw).

I would strongly suggest to change all fs= in GRASS 7 (several modules)
to separator= before it propagates more.

Bonus: no script breakage from GRASS 6 to 7.

Markus
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Re: [GRASS-dev] g.mlist sep= or fs= ?

2012-09-05 Thread Hamish
Yann Chemin wrote:
 +1 for separator=

sounds good to me. one less acronym for people to learn (especially for
non-native speakers I imagine it can be a bit mysterious sometimes)


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Re: [GRASS-dev] g.mlist sep= or fs= ?

2012-09-05 Thread Paulo van Breugel

+1 for separator

On 09/05/2012 10:09 AM, Markus Neteler wrote:

Hi,

me and some of my course participants (GeoSTAT 2012) stumbled over
the change of sep= to fs= in GRASS 7.

While ...

On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Hamish hamis...@yahoo.com wrote:

Huidae Cho wrote:

When I first wrote the original script, I also thought about fs=.  But,
you're right, there are no fields to separate, and that's why it's been
separator=.

ok, reverted.

Hamish

it has become again fs=...
http://grass.osgeo.org/grass70/manuals/html70_user/g.mlist.html

In a quick poll in my course the people (being R savvy) all voted for
separator=, also to keep consistency with R! (and GRASS 6 btw).

I would strongly suggest to change all fs= in GRASS 7 (several modules)
to separator= before it propagates more.

Bonus: no script breakage from GRASS 6 to 7.

Markus
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Re: [GRASS-dev] g.mlist sep= or fs= ?

2012-09-05 Thread Vaclav Petras
 sounds good to me. one less acronym for people to learn (especially for
 non-native speakers I imagine it can be a bit mysterious sometimes)

Yes, I always read fs as file separator. The meaning for me is more
like column separator. Term field never comes to my mind.

Vaclav
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Re: [GRASS-dev] g.mlist sep= or fs= ?

2012-09-05 Thread Luca Delucchi
2012/9/5 Paulo van Breugel p.vanbreu...@gmail.com:
 +1 for separator


+1

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Re: [GRASS-dev] g.mlist sep= or fs= ?

2012-09-05 Thread Glynn Clements

Hamish wrote:

 Yann Chemin wrote:
  +1 for separator=
 
 sounds good to me. one less acronym for people to learn (especially for
 non-native speakers I imagine it can be a bit mysterious sometimes)

Something to bear in mind when choosing option names:

In 7.0, the option could be called field_separator, for which e.g. 
fs or fsep would be valid abbreviations (but not e.g. sep or
separator, as the first letter of the first word is required).

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Re: [GRASS-dev] g.mlist sep= or fs= ?

2012-09-05 Thread Markus Neteler
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Glynn Clements
gl...@gclements.plus.com wrote:
 Something to bear in mind when choosing option names:

 In 7.0, the option could be called field_separator, for which e.g.
 fs or fsep would be valid abbreviations (but not e.g. sep or
 separator, as the first letter of the first word is required).

The point is that only sep... is keeping backwards compatibility
and R compatibility.

Markus
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Re: [GRASS-dev] g.mlist sep= or fs= ?

2008-12-10 Thread Huidae Cho
Hamish,

When I first wrote the original script, I also thought about fs=.  But,
you're right, there are no fields to separate, and that's why it's been
separator=.

Huidae

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 06:24:30PM +1300, Hamish wrote:
 Hi,
 
 yesterday in svn/trunk I renamed g.mlist's separator= option to be fs=,
 so that it was in line with other modules.
 
 now I am having second thoughts- g.mlist doesn't really have fields to
 separate, so perhaps separator= is better after all.
 
 
 comments?
 
 Hamish
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