[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: Deshabhimani aadine pattiyakkumbol
*Sorry, I didnot know that an error in Deshabhimani was able to draw the whole history of the world. I did not know, the word 'hot dog' had 'hot' relations with leninism, capitalism, E.M.S., communism, and above all, it had the link with 75 years of soviet union's history --- wonderful. * ** *Dear Damodar, you have good future in hot dog' eating competition - you can be the winner in next time* ** *Good luck * *Rasheed * ** 2009/7/7 damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com Ref to Abdul rasheed's general comments on confusion creation.. not on hot dog, which is only regerttable error. ..the only one who are not confucious are Abdul Rasheed and Co. Strange wisdom!! I must say. Really to be appreciated. Since you are endowed with specially made early 20th century framework of Leninism, everything can be flitered to anti-communist tirades of media. For almost, 75 years erstwhile Soviet Union was spreading the democratic deficit within the country as US-Capitalist media creation. Finally, all the confuscious became zen buddhist one fine day after the fall of the empire. Prior to the fall of erstwhile Soviet Union, EMS, yours dialectcial theoritician applied formal logic and teased at those said the SU is going to non-existence. You must be rememebering what EMS said: Can humans return to Ape? On SU turning capitlaist!! I can understand you and your co mocking at others but why should you fool yourself and how long would you continue to do that? 2009/7/6 Abdul Rasheed rasheed...@gmail.com *Anwar * *Yes, anvar - our media is living in 'confusions' (or they know how to make confusions) and they lead us to confusions. * *സര്‍വത്ര കാന്ഫുഷന്‍* *regards * *Rasheed * 2009/7/6 Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com 2009/7/6 Abdul Rasheed rasheed...@gmail.com *Mr. Mohanan* ** *Good comments * ** *Before, Manorama and Mathrubhumi published as a front page news in big titles that CBI submitted to kerala governer a CD of telephone conversation between Advocate General and a CPI-M leader concerning the SNC lavlin case (as a proof to prosecute Pinarayi vijayan). * *Later CBI rejected this news.* *But the media ( hi-tec theives and syndicate ) never say sorry to the people for this fabricated news. * ** *regards * ആകെ കണ്‍ഫ്യൂഷനായല്ലോ .. ആട് ഇപ്പോ ലാവ്ലിനായോ .. അപ്പോ കള്ളന്‍ പട്ടിയെ പിടിക്കാനിറങ്ങിയോ... സിബിഐയും പട്ടിയെപ്പിടിക്കാന്‍ ഇറങ്ങിയോ ? ഇതെന്താ പട്ടാളം സിനിമയോ ആകെ കണ്‍ഫ്യൂഷന്‍ .. 2009/7/6 mohanan MS msmoha...@gmail.com *ഹൈ ടെക് കള്ളനും തേങ്ങാ കള്ളനും.* ഞങ്ങളുടെ നാട്ടില്‍ പഞ്ഞ കര്‍ക്കിടകക്കാലത്ത് രാത്രി കള്ളന്മാരിറങ്ങും.അത്യാവശ്യം വാഴക്കുല, പുറത്തു മറന്നു വച്ച് പോയ പാത്രങ്ങള്‍ അങ്ങിനെ അങ്ങിനെ അത്യാവശ്യം കുടുംബത്തിന്റെ പട്ടിണി മാറ്റാന്‍ വേണ്ട സാധനങ്ങള്‍ മാത്രം മതി ആ പാവം കള്ളനു. എന്നാല്‍ പലപ്പോഴും നാട്ടുക്കാര്‍ പിടികൂടി കൈ വച്ച് വിടുകയും ചെയ്യാറുണ്ട് താനും ,അതോടെ അവന്‍ നാട്ടിലെ അറിയപ്പെടുന്ന കള്ളനായി. പിന്നെ ഏതു കളവു നടന്നാലും ഇവനായിരിക്കും പ്രതി.അങ്ങനെ ഇണങിയും പിണങ്ങിയും ഉള്ള ഒരു ബന്ധമായിരിക്കും ഇവനും സമൂഹവും തമ്മില്‍. ഇതില്‍ നിന്നും വ്യത്യസ്തന്‍ ആണ് ഹൈ ടെക് കള്ളന്‍. അത്യന്താധുനിക ഉപകരണങ്ങളുമായി വന്നു നമ്മളുടെ കുടുംബം അടിയോടെ മാന്തുന്നവനാനവന്‍. നമ്മള്‍ എന്തെങ്കിലും പ്രശ്നം ഉണ്ടാക്കാന്‍ ശ്രമിക്കുമെന്ന് സംശയം തോന്നിയാല്‍ മതി നമ്മെ കുടുംബത്തോടെ ഉന്മൂലനം ചെയ്യാനും അവനു മടിയില്ല. ഇതില്‍ ആരാണ് വലിയ കള്ളന്‍, രണ്ടുപേരും കള്ളന്മാര്‍ തന്നെ എന്നാല്‍ രണ്ടു പേരോടും ഉള്ള നമ്മുടെ മനോഭാവത്തിനു മാറ്റമുണ്ട്. ഇത്രയും പറയാന്‍ കാരണമുണ്ട്. ഇന്നത്തെ ദേശാഭിമാനിയിലെയും മലയാള മനോരമയിലെയും മുന്‍ പേജ് വാര്‍ത്തയാണ് പ്രശ്നം.ദേശാഭിമാനിയിലെ പട്ടിവാര്‍ത്ത തന്നെ. ശരിയാണ്, ലേഖകന് പറ്റിയ അമളി അല്ലെങ്കില്‍ വിവരക്കേട് തന്നെ , സംശയമില്ല. ഇനി മനോരമയിലേക്ക്. ലാവലിന്‍ പി.ബി യാണ് പ്രശ്നം. ഹെദ്ദിംഗ് ഞാന്‍ ഓര്‍ക്കുന്നില്ല. എങ്കിലും ഇതാണ് ഞാന്‍ ചൂണ്ടിക്കാണിക്കുന്നത്. വി.എസ്. പറഞ്ഞു വിജയ . വി എസ് പറഞ്ഞ വാചകങ്ങള്‍ അതേപടി നല്‍കിയിരിക്കുന്നു. ഒന്നല്ല രണ്ടു വാചകങ്ങള്‍. ഈ ലേഖകന് പി.ബി മെമ്പര്‍ അല്ല എന്ന് നമുക്കൊക്കെ അറിയാം. പിന്നെ ഈ വി എസിന്റെ വാചകങ്ങള്‍ എവിടുന്നു കിട്ടി, അദ്ദേഹം ഭാവിക്കുന്നത്, പി.ബി അംഗങ്ങളില്‍ ആരോ ചോര്‍ത്തി കൊടുത്തു എന്നാണു. പക്ഷെ നമുക്കറിയാം, വി എസ് അല്ലാതെ മറ്റാരും ഇത് ചെയ്യാന്‍ പി.ബിയില്‍ ഇല്ലെന്നു. പക്ഷെ അദ്ദേഹം ഇത് ചെയ്യില്ലെന്നും കേരളതുകാര്‍ക്കറിയാം. പിന്നെ ലേഖകന് ഈ വാചകങ്ങള്‍ എവിടുന്നു കിട്ടി.ഹൈ ടെക് കള്ളന്റെ കളി കണ്ടോ? നമ്മള്‍ സംശയിക്കില്ലായിരുന്നു, പക്ഷെ നമുക്കറിയാം ഏതൊരു കള്ളനും തന്നെ പിടികൂടാനയി ഒരു തുമ്പ് അവശേഷിപ്പിക്കും എന്ന്. അത് ഇവിടെയും നടന്നു. പി.ബിയുടെ വായില്‍ ബാലാനന്ദന്‍ റിപ്പോര്‍ട്ടും ഒക്കെ കയറ്റിവിട്ടു. അതൊക്കെ പലപ്രാവശ്യം പൊട്ടി തീര്‍ന്ന പടക്കമായതുകൊണ്ട് നമുക്ക് പെട്ടെന്ന് കാര്യം പിടികിട്ടി. അപ്പോള്‍ ഹൈ ടെക് കള്ളനും തേങ്ങാ കള്ളനും പിടി കിട്ടിയില്ലേ സുഹൃത്തുക്കളെ. തെങ്ങക്കള്ളനെ കൈകാര്യം ചെയ്യാനും കൈ വയ്ക്കാനും എളുപ്പമാണ് ആരും ചോദിക്കാനും പറയാനുമില്ല.കൊമ്രെട്സ് പിണ്ടികെട്ടു എന്നോ എന്ത് വേണമെങ്കിലും വിളിക്കാം. പക്ഷെ മറ്റവനെ
[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: Deshabhimani aadine pattiyakkumbol
Damodar thax for your advice - but no body can beat you in this competition since you are expert to turn a *goat into dog.** * കഥ അറിയാതെ ആട്ടം കാണരുത് I posted my email as a supporting comment to one Mr. Mohanan's email. Read it carefully, before jumping to comment. regards Rasheed 2009/7/7 damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com haha.. While I have traversed history, EMS etc etc. Abdul Rasheed's attempt was more modest in traversing contempoary history and little confusing for him to draw us to the generic topic of media-confusion from the comments on an error in Desabhimani...:-) :-) :-) see for instance: Abdul Rasheed: Before, Manorama and Mathrubhumi published as a front page news in big titles that CBI submitted to kerala governer a CD of telephone conversation between Advocate General and a CPI-M leader concerning the SNC lavlin case (as a proof to prosecute Pinarayi vijayan). Later CBI rejected this news. But the media ( hi-tec theives and syndicate ) never say sorry to the people for this fabricated news. __ Yes, anvar - our media is living in 'confusions' (or they know how to make confusions) and they lead us to confusions --- If I have a future, your are presently into it. but it is not hot dog as such but ice-cold freezing one... but sad you will never turn a winner.. bcoz you have better competitors amongst your company.. 2009/7/7 Abdul Rasheed rasheed...@gmail.com *Sorry, I didnot know that an error in Deshabhimani was able to draw the whole history of the world. I did not know, the word 'hot dog' had 'hot' relations with leninism, capitalism, E.M.S., communism, and above all, it had the link with 75 years of soviet union's history --- wonderful. * ** *Dear Damodar, you have good future in hot dog' eating competition - you can be the winner in next time* ** *Good luck * *Rasheed * ** 2009/7/7 damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com Ref to Abdul rasheed's general comments on confusion creation.. not on hot dog, which is only regerttable error. ..the only one who are not confucious are Abdul Rasheed and Co. Strange wisdom!! I must say. Really to be appreciated. Since you are endowed with specially made early 20th century framework of Leninism, everything can be flitered to anti-communist tirades of media. For almost, 75 years erstwhile Soviet Union was spreading the democratic deficit within the country as US-Capitalist media creation. Finally, all the confuscious became zen buddhist one fine day after the fall of the empire. Prior to the fall of erstwhile Soviet Union, EMS, yours dialectcial theoritician applied formal logic and teased at those said the SU is going to non-existence. You must be rememebering what EMS said: Can humans return to Ape? On SU turning capitlaist!! I can understand you and your co mocking at others but why should you fool yourself and how long would you continue to do that? 2009/7/6 Abdul Rasheed rasheed...@gmail.com *Anwar * *Yes, anvar - our media is living in 'confusions' (or they know how to make confusions) and they lead us to confusions. * *സര്‍വത്ര കാന്ഫുഷന്‍* *regards * *Rasheed * 2009/7/6 Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com 2009/7/6 Abdul Rasheed rasheed...@gmail.com *Mr. Mohanan* ** *Good comments * ** *Before, Manorama and Mathrubhumi published as a front page news in big titles that CBI submitted to kerala governer a CD of telephone conversation between Advocate General and a CPI-M leader concerning the SNC lavlin case (as a proof to prosecute Pinarayi vijayan). * *Later CBI rejected this news.* *But the media ( hi-tec theives and syndicate ) never say sorry to the people for this fabricated news. * ** *regards * ആകെ കണ്‍ഫ്യൂഷനായല്ലോ .. ആട് ഇപ്പോ ലാവ്ലിനായോ .. അപ്പോ കള്ളന്‍ പട്ടിയെ പിടിക്കാനിറങ്ങിയോ... സിബിഐയും പട്ടിയെപ്പിടിക്കാന്‍ ഇറങ്ങിയോ ? ഇതെന്താ പട്ടാളം സിനിമയോ ആകെ കണ്‍ഫ്യൂഷന്‍ .. 2009/7/6 mohanan MS msmoha...@gmail.com *ഹൈ ടെക് കള്ളനും തേങ്ങാ കള്ളനും.* ഞങ്ങളുടെ നാട്ടില്‍ പഞ്ഞ കര്‍ക്കിടകക്കാലത്ത് രാത്രി കള്ളന്മാരിറങ്ങും.അത്യാവശ്യം വാഴക്കുല, പുറത്തു മറന്നു വച്ച് പോയ പാത്രങ്ങള്‍ അങ്ങിനെ അങ്ങിനെ അത്യാവശ്യം കുടുംബത്തിന്റെ പട്ടിണി മാറ്റാന്‍ വേണ്ട സാധനങ്ങള്‍ മാത്രം മതി ആ പാവം കള്ളനു. എന്നാല്‍ പലപ്പോഴും നാട്ടുക്കാര്‍ പിടികൂടി കൈ വച്ച് വിടുകയും ചെയ്യാറുണ്ട് താനും ,അതോടെ അവന്‍ നാട്ടിലെ അറിയപ്പെടുന്ന കള്ളനായി. പിന്നെ ഏതു കളവു നടന്നാലും ഇവനായിരിക്കും പ്രതി.അങ്ങനെ ഇണങിയും പിണങ്ങിയും ഉള്ള ഒരു ബന്ധമായിരിക്കും ഇവനും സമൂഹവും തമ്മില്‍. ഇതില്‍ നിന്നും വ്യത്യസ്തന്‍ ആണ് ഹൈ ടെക് കള്ളന്‍. അത്യന്താധുനിക ഉപകരണങ്ങളുമായി വന്നു നമ്മളുടെ കുടുംബം അടിയോടെ മാന്തുന്നവനാനവന്‍. നമ്മള്‍ എന്തെങ്കിലും പ്രശ്നം ഉണ്ടാക്കാന്‍ ശ്രമിക്കുമെന്ന് സംശയം തോന്നിയാല്‍ മതി നമ്മെ കുടുംബത്തോടെ ഉന്മൂലനം ചെയ്യാനും അവനു മടിയില്ല. ഇതില്‍ ആരാണ് വലിയ കള്ളന്‍, രണ്ടുപേരും കള്ളന്മാര്‍ തന്നെ എന്നാല്‍ രണ്ടു
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[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: Deshabhimani aadine pattiyakkumbol
Hello, Our participants are in hurry to grill Deshabhimani for a clerical mistake! A mistake in translation, that in ways not going to affect any of us. But we keep silent on issues which are really important to us. Its very convenient for many of us to simply sit and make comments on this kinds of issues ever since barking at left has become a fashion and convenient job. The kind of hierarchy of criticism that we construct here is very problematic. I dont think that making goat a dog is a crime in translation! F. Naeema 2009/7/7 Abdul Rasheed rasheed...@gmail.com Damodar thax for your advice - but no body can beat you in this competition since you are expert to turn a *goat into dog.** * കഥ അറിയാതെ ആട്ടം കാണരുത് I posted my email as a supporting comment to one Mr. Mohanan's email. Read it carefully, before jumping to comment. regards Rasheed 2009/7/7 damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com haha.. While I have traversed history, EMS etc etc. Abdul Rasheed's attempt was more modest in traversing contempoary history and little confusing for him to draw us to the generic topic of media-confusion from the comments on an error in Desabhimani...:-) :-) :-) see for instance: Abdul Rasheed: Before, Manorama and Mathrubhumi published as a front page news in big titles that CBI submitted to kerala governer a CD of telephone conversation between Advocate General and a CPI-M leader concerning the SNC lavlin case (as a proof to prosecute Pinarayi vijayan). Later CBI rejected this news. But the media ( hi-tec theives and syndicate ) never say sorry to the people for this fabricated news. __ Yes, anvar - our media is living in 'confusions' (or they know how to make confusions) and they lead us to confusions --- If I have a future, your are presently into it. but it is not hot dog as such but ice-cold freezing one... but sad you will never turn a winner.. bcoz you have better competitors amongst your company.. 2009/7/7 Abdul Rasheed rasheed...@gmail.com *Sorry, I didnot know that an error in Deshabhimani was able to draw the whole history of the world. I did not know, the word 'hot dog' had 'hot' relations with leninism, capitalism, E.M.S., communism, and above all, it had the link with 75 years of soviet union's history --- wonderful. * ** *Dear Damodar, you have good future in hot dog' eating competition - you can be the winner in next time* ** *Good luck * *Rasheed * ** 2009/7/7 damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com Ref to Abdul rasheed's general comments on confusion creation.. not on hot dog, which is only regerttable error. ..the only one who are not confucious are Abdul Rasheed and Co. Strange wisdom!! I must say. Really to be appreciated. Since you are endowed with specially made early 20th century framework of Leninism, everything can be flitered to anti-communist tirades of media. For almost, 75 years erstwhile Soviet Union was spreading the democratic deficit within the country as US-Capitalist media creation. Finally, all the confuscious became zen buddhist one fine day after the fall of the empire. Prior to the fall of erstwhile Soviet Union, EMS, yours dialectcial theoritician applied formal logic and teased at those said the SU is going to non-existence. You must be rememebering what EMS said: Can humans return to Ape? On SU turning capitlaist!! I can understand you and your co mocking at others but why should you fool yourself and how long would you continue to do that? 2009/7/6 Abdul Rasheed rasheed...@gmail.com *Anwar * *Yes, anvar - our media is living in 'confusions' (or they know how to make confusions) and they lead us to confusions. * *സര്‍വത്ര കാന്ഫുഷന്‍* *regards * *Rasheed * 2009/7/6 Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com 2009/7/6 Abdul Rasheed rasheed...@gmail.com *Mr. Mohanan* ** *Good comments * ** *Before, Manorama and Mathrubhumi published as a front page news in big titles that CBI submitted to kerala governer a CD of telephone conversation between Advocate General and a CPI-M leader concerning the SNC lavlin case (as a proof to prosecute Pinarayi vijayan). * *Later CBI rejected this news.* *But the media ( hi-tec theives and syndicate ) never say sorry to the people for this fabricated news. * ** *regards * ആകെ കണ്‍ഫ്യൂഷനായല്ലോ .. ആട് ഇപ്പോ ലാവ്ലിനായോ .. അപ്പോ കള്ളന്‍ പട്ടിയെ പിടിക്കാനിറങ്ങിയോ... സിബിഐയും പട്ടിയെപ്പിടിക്കാന്‍ ഇറങ്ങിയോ ? ഇതെന്താ പട്ടാളം സിനിമയോ ആകെ കണ്‍ഫ്യൂഷന്‍ .. 2009/7/6 mohanan MS msmoha...@gmail.com *ഹൈ ടെക് കള്ളനും തേങ്ങാ കള്ളനും.* ഞങ്ങളുടെ നാട്ടില്‍ പഞ്ഞ കര്‍ക്കിടകക്കാലത്ത് രാത്രി കള്ളന്മാരിറങ്ങും.അത്യാവശ്യം വാഴക്കുല, പുറത്തു മറന്നു വച്ച് പോയ പാത്രങ്ങള്‍ അങ്ങിനെ അങ്ങിനെ അത്യാവശ്യം കുടുംബത്തിന്റെ പട്ടിണി മാറ്റാന്‍ വേണ്ട സാധനങ്ങള്‍ മാത്രം മതി ആ പാവം കള്ളനു. എന്നാല്‍ പലപ്പോഴും നാട്ടുക്കാര്‍ പിടികൂടി കൈ വച്ച് വിടുകയും
[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: Deshabhimani aadine pattiyakkumbol
Hello Fatima, The pedantic tone of your advise makes me ask just two questions. You may have very inconvienient answers, I know. Pls. let us know it anyway: 1. We keep silent on issues Which are those issues on which a raising of voice is required? Is this silence restrcited to this domain or were you speaking about a broader domain of media? 2. ..Eversince barking at left... Do you mean CPI(M)? or Left in a very generic sense? Does it include many new mobilizations perhaps not under a particular party banner by name CPI or CPIM? 3. The kind of hierarchy... Pls. let us know the priority of issues to be debated. That makes it more convienient for enabling a discussion than making some generalized remark That said, there was no reason to blow out of proportion a clerical mistake of desabhimani . 2009/7/7 Fathima Naeema naeem...@gmail.com Hello, Our participants are in hurry to grill Deshabhimani for a clerical mistake! A mistake in translation, that in ways not going to affect any of us. But we keep silent on issues which are really important to us. Its very convenient for many of us to simply sit and make comments on this kinds of issues ever since barking at left has become a fashion and convenient job. The kind of hierarchy of criticism that we construct here is very problematic. I dont think that making goat a dog is a crime in translation! F. Naeema 2009/7/7 Abdul Rasheed rasheed...@gmail.com Damodar thax for your advice - but no body can beat you in this competition since you are expert to turn a *goat into dog.** * കഥ അറിയാതെ ആട്ടം കാണരുത് I posted my email as a supporting comment to one Mr. Mohanan's email. Read it carefully, before jumping to comment. regards Rasheed 2009/7/7 damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com haha.. While I have traversed history, EMS etc etc. Abdul Rasheed's attempt was more modest in traversing contempoary history and little confusing for him to draw us to the generic topic of media-confusion from the comments on an error in Desabhimani...:-) :-) :-) see for instance: Abdul Rasheed: Before, Manorama and Mathrubhumi published as a front page news in big titles that CBI submitted to kerala governer a CD of telephone conversation between Advocate General and a CPI-M leader concerning the SNC lavlin case (as a proof to prosecute Pinarayi vijayan). Later CBI rejected this news. But the media ( hi-tec theives and syndicate ) never say sorry to the people for this fabricated news. __ Yes, anvar - our media is living in 'confusions' (or they know how to make confusions) and they lead us to confusions --- If I have a future, your are presently into it. but it is not hot dog as such but ice-cold freezing one... but sad you will never turn a winner.. bcoz you have better competitors amongst your company.. 2009/7/7 Abdul Rasheed rasheed...@gmail.com *Sorry, I didnot know that an error in Deshabhimani was able to draw the whole history of the world. I did not know, the word 'hot dog' had 'hot' relations with leninism, capitalism, E.M.S., communism, and above all, it had the link with 75 years of soviet union's history --- wonderful. * ** *Dear Damodar, you have good future in hot dog' eating competition - you can be the winner in next time* ** *Good luck * *Rasheed * ** 2009/7/7 damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com Ref to Abdul rasheed's general comments on confusion creation.. not on hot dog, which is only regerttable error. ..the only one who are not confucious are Abdul Rasheed and Co. Strange wisdom!! I must say. Really to be appreciated. Since you are endowed with specially made early 20th century framework of Leninism, everything can be flitered to anti-communist tirades of media. For almost, 75 years erstwhile Soviet Union was spreading the democratic deficit within the country as US-Capitalist media creation. Finally, all the confuscious became zen buddhist one fine day after the fall of the empire. Prior to the fall of erstwhile Soviet Union, EMS, yours dialectcial theoritician applied formal logic and teased at those said the SU is going to non-existence. You must be rememebering what EMS said: Can humans return to Ape? On SU turning capitlaist!! I can understand you and your co mocking at others but why should you fool yourself and how long would you continue to do that? 2009/7/6 Abdul Rasheed rasheed...@gmail.com *Anwar * *Yes, anvar - our media is living in 'confusions' (or they know how to make confusions) and they lead us to confusions. * *സര്‍വത്ര കാന്ഫുഷന്‍* *regards * *Rasheed * 2009/7/6 Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com 2009/7/6 Abdul Rasheed rasheed...@gmail.com *Mr. Mohanan* ** *Good comments * ** *Before, Manorama and Mathrubhumi published as a front page news in big titles that CBI submitted to kerala governer a CD of telephone conversation between Advocate
[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: Deshabhimani aadine pattiyakkumbol
*damaodar prasad * ** *You are partially blind - that is your problem. * ** *When about 74 common people (workers of CPI-M and their family members)were killed in Lalgat in WB, nobody shed here any tears (Damodar was sleeping) Nobody were worried about the loss of their families. Nobody wrote long artcles about it. * ** *When maoists brought under their contral a region of a state, using AK-47 guns and bombs, nobody find wrong in it. When hundreds of families left from Lalghat, nobody feel sad on it. For them, it was normal things. * *But when the govt took strong action against these anti-state elements, everybody start to cry on behalf of 'human rights' * ** *Damodar, search and search about the priorities of issues - but take care, to find out anti-left issues to be discussed. * ** *Congress and BJP are the biggest rights in the country and only CPI-M, CPI, RSP are wrongs. * *best of luck* *regards * *Rasheed * 2009/7/7 damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com Hello Fatima, The pedantic tone of your advise makes me ask just two questions. You may have very inconvienient answers, I know. Pls. let us know it anyway: 1. We keep silent on issues Which are those issues on which a raising of voice is required? Is this silence restrcited to this domain or were you speaking about a broader domain of media? 2. ..Eversince barking at left... Do you mean CPI(M)? or Left in a very generic sense? Does it include many new mobilizations perhaps not under a particular party banner by name CPI or CPIM? 3. The kind of hierarchy... Pls. let us know the priority of issues to be debated. That makes it more convienient for enabling a discussion than making some generalized remark That said, there was no reason to blow out of proportion a clerical mistake of desabhimani . 2009/7/7 Fathima Naeema naeem...@gmail.com Hello, Our participants are in hurry to grill Deshabhimani for a clerical mistake! A mistake in translation, that in ways not going to affect any of us. But we keep silent on issues which are really important to us. Its very convenient for many of us to simply sit and make comments on this kinds of issues ever since barking at left has become a fashion and convenient job. The kind of hierarchy of criticism that we construct here is very problematic. I dont think that making goat a dog is a crime in translation! F. Naeema 2009/7/7 Abdul Rasheed rasheed...@gmail.com Damodar thax for your advice - but no body can beat you in this competition since you are expert to turn a *goat into dog.** * കഥ അറിയാതെ ആട്ടം കാണരുത് I posted my email as a supporting comment to one Mr. Mohanan's email. Read it carefully, before jumping to comment. regards Rasheed 2009/7/7 damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com haha.. While I have traversed history, EMS etc etc. Abdul Rasheed's attempt was more modest in traversing contempoary history and little confusing for him to draw us to the generic topic of media-confusion from the comments on an error in Desabhimani...:-) :-) :-) see for instance: Abdul Rasheed: Before, Manorama and Mathrubhumi published as a front page news in big titles that CBI submitted to kerala governer a CD of telephone conversation between Advocate General and a CPI-M leader concerning the SNC lavlin case (as a proof to prosecute Pinarayi vijayan). Later CBI rejected this news. But the media ( hi-tec theives and syndicate ) never say sorry to the people for this fabricated news. __ Yes, anvar - our media is living in 'confusions' (or they know how to make confusions) and they lead us to confusions --- If I have a future, your are presently into it. but it is not hot dog as such but ice-cold freezing one... but sad you will never turn a winner.. bcoz you have better competitors amongst your company.. 2009/7/7 Abdul Rasheed rasheed...@gmail.com *Sorry, I didnot know that an error in Deshabhimani was able to draw the whole history of the world. I did not know, the word 'hot dog' had 'hot' relations with leninism, capitalism, E.M.S., communism, and above all, it had the link with 75 years of soviet union's history --- wonderful. * ** *Dear Damodar, you have good future in hot dog' eating competition - you can be the winner in next time* ** *Good luck * *Rasheed * ** 2009/7/7 damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com Ref to Abdul rasheed's general comments on confusion creation.. not on hot dog, which is only regerttable error. ..the only one who are not confucious are Abdul Rasheed and Co. Strange wisdom!! I must say. Really to be appreciated. Since you are endowed with specially made early 20th century framework of Leninism, everything can be flitered to anti-communist tirades of media. For almost, 75 years erstwhile Soviet Union was spreading the democratic deficit within the country as US-Capitalist media creation. Finally, all the
[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: Deshabhimani aadine pattiyakkumbol
One more example you missed Rasheed. You should have asked this to Damodar. When Dr. Binayak Sen was arrested for anti- state activities, lot of Human Right activists made noises( With International support). When Pinarayi Vijayan was harassed by CBI ( for saving the State from darkness), no human right activists - except Madhvan Kutti, and some support from Canada) came for his rescue:) 2009/7/7 Abdul Rasheed rasheed...@gmail.com *damaodar prasad * ** *You are partially blind - that is your problem. * ** *When about 74 common people (workers of CPI-M and their family members)were killed in Lalgat in WB, nobody shed here any tears (Damodar was sleeping) Nobody were worried about the loss of their families. Nobody wrote long artcles about it. * ** *When maoists brought under their contral a region of a state, using AK-47 guns and bombs, nobody find wrong in it. When hundreds of families left from Lalghat, nobody feel sad on it. For them, it was normal things. * *But when the govt took strong action against these anti-state elements, everybody start to cry on behalf of 'human rights' * ** *Damodar, search and search about the priorities of issues - but take care, to find out anti-left issues to be discussed. * ** *Congress and BJP are the biggest rights in the country and only CPI-M, CPI, RSP are wrongs. * *best of luck* *regards * *Rasheed * 2009/7/7 damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com Hello Fatima, The pedantic tone of your advise makes me ask just two questions. You may have very inconvienient answers, I know. Pls. let us know it anyway: 1. We keep silent on issues Which are those issues on which a raising of voice is required? Is this silence restrcited to this domain or were you speaking about a broader domain of media? 2. ..Eversince barking at left... Do you mean CPI(M)? or Left in a very generic sense? Does it include many new mobilizations perhaps not under a particular party banner by name CPI or CPIM? 3. The kind of hierarchy... Pls. let us know the priority of issues to be debated. That makes it more convienient for enabling a discussion than making some generalized remark That said, there was no reason to blow out of proportion a clerical mistake of desabhimani . 2009/7/7 Fathima Naeema naeem...@gmail.com Hello, Our participants are in hurry to grill Deshabhimani for a clerical mistake! A mistake in translation, that in ways not going to affect any of us. But we keep silent on issues which are really important to us. Its very convenient for many of us to simply sit and make comments on this kinds of issues ever since barking at left has become a fashion and convenient job. The kind of hierarchy of criticism that we construct here is very problematic. I dont think that making goat a dog is a crime in translation! F. Naeema 2009/7/7 Abdul Rasheed rasheed...@gmail.com Damodar thax for your advice - but no body can beat you in this competition since you are expert to turn a *goat into dog.** * കഥ അറിയാതെ ആട്ടം കാണരുത് I posted my email as a supporting comment to one Mr. Mohanan's email. Read it carefully, before jumping to comment. regards Rasheed 2009/7/7 damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com haha.. While I have traversed history, EMS etc etc. Abdul Rasheed's attempt was more modest in traversing contempoary history and little confusing for him to draw us to the generic topic of media-confusion from the comments on an error in Desabhimani...:-) :-) :-) see for instance: Abdul Rasheed: Before, Manorama and Mathrubhumi published as a front page news in big titles that CBI submitted to kerala governer a CD of telephone conversation between Advocate General and a CPI-M leader concerning the SNC lavlin case (as a proof to prosecute Pinarayi vijayan). Later CBI rejected this news. But the media ( hi-tec theives and syndicate ) never say sorry to the people for this fabricated news. __ Yes, anvar - our media is living in 'confusions' (or they know how to make confusions) and they lead us to confusions --- If I have a future, your are presently into it. but it is not hot dog as such but ice-cold freezing one... but sad you will never turn a winner.. bcoz you have better competitors amongst your company.. 2009/7/7 Abdul Rasheed rasheed...@gmail.com *Sorry, I didnot know that an error in Deshabhimani was able to draw the whole history of the world. I did not know, the word 'hot dog' had 'hot' relations with leninism, capitalism, E.M.S., communism, and above all, it had the link with 75 years of soviet union's history --- wonderful. * ** *Dear Damodar, you have good future in hot dog' eating competition - you can be the winner in next time* ** *Good luck * *Rasheed * ** 2009/7/7 damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com Ref to Abdul rasheed's general comments on confusion creation.. not on hot
[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: Deshabhimani aadine pattiyakkumbol
ദേശാഭിമാനി തിരുത്തു് കൊടുത്തിട്ടുണ്ടു്: വാര്‍ത്ത പകര്‍ത്തിയിടുന്നു. ഒരു സബ് എഡിറ്ററുടെ മണ്ടന്‍ പരിഭാഷ ഒന്നാംപുറത്തു് കയറിപ്പോയതു് ന്യൂസ് എഡിറ്ററുടെ പിടിപ്പുകേടുകൊണ്ടാവാം. അതിനു് ഖേദപ്രകടനം നടത്താന്‍ പത്രം തയ്യാറായിട്ടുണ്ടു്. എന്നാല്‍ മറ്റുപത്രങ്ങള്‍ വ്യാകരണപ്പിഴവുകളല്ലാതെ, വാര്‍ത്തയിലെ തെറ്റു് തിരുത്തുന്നതു് ശ്രദ്ധയില്‍ പെട്ടിട്ടില്ല. ഹോട്ട്ഡോഗ് തീറ്റമത്സരത്തില്‍ ലോക റെക്കോഡ് ന്യൂയോര്‍ക്ക്: പത്തു മിനിറ്റിനുള്ളില്‍ 68 ഹോട്ട് ഡോഗ്സ് ഇറച്ചി സോസേജുകള്‍ കഴിച്ച് അമേരിക്കക്കാരന്‍ ലോക റെക്കോഡിട്ടു. അമേരിക്കന്‍ സ്വാതന്ത്യ്രദിനാഘോഷത്തിന്റെ ഭാഗമായി നടത്തിയ വാര്‍ഷിക തീറ്റമത്സരത്തിലാണ് ജോയ് ചെസ്റ്നട്ട് എന്ന ഇരുപത്തഞ്ചുകാരന്‍ സ്വന്തം റെക്കോഡ് തിരുത്തിയത്. ഇരുപതിനായിരം ഡോളര്‍ സമ്മാനത്തുകയുള്ള മത്സരം ന്യൂയോര്‍ക്കിലെ കോണി ദ്വീപിലാണ് നടന്നത്. ചെസ്റ്നട്ടിന്റെ തുടര്‍ച്ചയായ മൂന്നാംവിജയമാണ് ഇത്. കഴിഞ്ഞവര്‍ഷം 66 ഹോട്ട് ഡോഗ്സ് അകത്താക്കിയാണ് കിരീടം ചൂടിയത്. അറുപത്തിനാലര ഹോട്ട് ഡോഗ് ഭക്ഷിച്ച് ജപ്പാന്‍കാരന്‍ ടകേരു രണ്ടാംസ്ഥാനത്തെത്തി. മത്സരം ഇഎസ്പിഎന്‍ ഉള്‍പ്പെടെയുള്ള സ്പോര്‍ട്സ് ചാനലുകള്‍ തത്സമയം സംപ്രേഷണംചെയ്തു. 1916ലാണ് ഈ മത്സരം ആരംഭിച്ചത്. 104 കിലോഗ്രാം ഭാരമുള്ള ചെസ്റ്നട്ട് ലോകത്തെ മറ്റു തീറ്റമത്സരങ്ങളിലെയും വിജയിയാണ്. ഇറച്ചിയോ ഇറച്ചിക്കുഴമ്പോ കൊണ്ട് തയ്യാറാക്കുന്ന മാര്‍ദവമുള്ള സോസേജാണ് ഹോട്ട് ഡോഗ്സ്. സവാളയും മറ്റും ചേര്‍ത്ത് ബണ്ണിനകത്ത് വച്ചും അല്ലാതെയും ഹോട്ട് ഡോഗ്സ് പാകം ചെയ്യും. അമേരിക്കയിലും യൂറോപ്പിലും ഏറെ ജനപ്രീതിയുള്ളതാണ് ഹോട്ട് ഡോഗ്സ്. സോസേജിന്റെ പര്യായമായാണ് ഡോഗ് എന്ന പദം ഉപയോഗിക്കുന്നത്. നൂറ്റാണ്ടുകള്‍ക്കുമുമ്പ് സോസേജ് പാകംചെയ്ത് വില്‍ക്കുന്നവര്‍ അതില്‍ പട്ടിയിറച്ചി ചേര്‍ത്തതായുള്ള ആരോപണവും ഹോട്ട് ഡോഗ്സ് എന്ന പേര് വരാന്‍ കാരണമായെന്നു പറയപ്പെടുന്നു. (തിങ്കളാഴ്ച ഒന്നാംപേജില്‍ ഇതുസംബന്ധിച്ച് പ്രസിദ്ധീകരിച്ച വാര്‍ത്തയില്‍ ഗുരുതരമായ പിശക് പറ്റിയിരുന്നു. തെറ്റ് പറ്റിയതില്‍ നിര്‍വ്യാജം ഖേദിക്കുന്നു- പത്രാധിപര്‍) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To post to this group, send email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: Deshabhimani aadine pattiyakkumbol
Abdul Rasheed: Am not going to contest what you said including personal remarks about me. Because, I should also ponder over whatever you said. But I will just ask one question: this problem of partial blindness is sure a problem. Do you think, you have a clear vision of things, issues and is open? 2009/7/7 Abdul Rasheed rasheed...@gmail.com *damaodar prasad * ** *You are partially blind - that is your problem. * ** *When about 74 common people (workers of CPI-M and their family members)were killed in Lalgat in WB, nobody shed here any tears (Damodar was sleeping) Nobody were worried about the loss of their families. Nobody wrote long artcles about it. * ** *When maoists brought under their contral a region of a state, using AK-47 guns and bombs, nobody find wrong in it. When hundreds of families left from Lalghat, nobody feel sad on it. For them, it was normal things. * *But when the govt took strong action against these anti-state elements, everybody start to cry on behalf of 'human rights' * ** *Damodar, search and search about the priorities of issues - but take care, to find out anti-left issues to be discussed. * ** *Congress and BJP are the biggest rights in the country and only CPI-M, CPI, RSP are wrongs. * *best of luck* *regards * *Rasheed * 2009/7/7 damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com Hello Fatima, The pedantic tone of your advise makes me ask just two questions. You may have very inconvienient answers, I know. Pls. let us know it anyway: 1. We keep silent on issues Which are those issues on which a raising of voice is required? Is this silence restrcited to this domain or were you speaking about a broader domain of media? 2. ..Eversince barking at left... Do you mean CPI(M)? or Left in a very generic sense? Does it include many new mobilizations perhaps not under a particular party banner by name CPI or CPIM? 3. The kind of hierarchy... Pls. let us know the priority of issues to be debated. That makes it more convienient for enabling a discussion than making some generalized remark That said, there was no reason to blow out of proportion a clerical mistake of desabhimani . 2009/7/7 Fathima Naeema naeem...@gmail.com Hello, Our participants are in hurry to grill Deshabhimani for a clerical mistake! A mistake in translation, that in ways not going to affect any of us. But we keep silent on issues which are really important to us. Its very convenient for many of us to simply sit and make comments on this kinds of issues ever since barking at left has become a fashion and convenient job. The kind of hierarchy of criticism that we construct here is very problematic. I dont think that making goat a dog is a crime in translation! F. Naeema 2009/7/7 Abdul Rasheed rasheed...@gmail.com Damodar thax for your advice - but no body can beat you in this competition since you are expert to turn a *goat into dog.** * കഥ അറിയാതെ ആട്ടം കാണരുത് I posted my email as a supporting comment to one Mr. Mohanan's email. Read it carefully, before jumping to comment. regards Rasheed 2009/7/7 damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com haha.. While I have traversed history, EMS etc etc. Abdul Rasheed's attempt was more modest in traversing contempoary history and little confusing for him to draw us to the generic topic of media-confusion from the comments on an error in Desabhimani...:-) :-) :-) see for instance: Abdul Rasheed: Before, Manorama and Mathrubhumi published as a front page news in big titles that CBI submitted to kerala governer a CD of telephone conversation between Advocate General and a CPI-M leader concerning the SNC lavlin case (as a proof to prosecute Pinarayi vijayan). Later CBI rejected this news. But the media ( hi-tec theives and syndicate ) never say sorry to the people for this fabricated news. __ Yes, anvar - our media is living in 'confusions' (or they know how to make confusions) and they lead us to confusions --- If I have a future, your are presently into it. but it is not hot dog as such but ice-cold freezing one... but sad you will never turn a winner.. bcoz you have better competitors amongst your company.. 2009/7/7 Abdul Rasheed rasheed...@gmail.com *Sorry, I didnot know that an error in Deshabhimani was able to draw the whole history of the world. I did not know, the word 'hot dog' had 'hot' relations with leninism, capitalism, E.M.S., communism, and above all, it had the link with 75 years of soviet union's history --- wonderful. * ** *Dear Damodar, you have good future in hot dog' eating competition - you can be the winner in next time* ** *Good luck * *Rasheed * ** 2009/7/7 damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com Ref to Abdul rasheed's general comments on confusion creation.. not on hot dog, which is only regerttable error. ..the only one who are not confucious are Abdul
[GreenYouth] Bloodied Lalgarh: An Eyewitness Account
http://www.tehelka.com/story_main42.asp?filename=Ne110709caught_between.asp From Tehelka Magazine, Vol 6, Issue 27, Dated July 11, 2009 * * * Caught Between Two Sickles A democratic protest against gross police brutality becomes a battlefield for two equally callous foes – Trinamool and the Left APARNA SEN Filmmaker [image: image] Frontlines Aparna Sen (left) and other Swajan activists with Chatradhar Mahato (right) in Lalgarh Photo: PINTU PRADHAN THE SWAJAN group, of which I am a member, went to Lalgarh despite pressing personal commitments simply because we felt that it was incumbent upon us. Swajan, which means ‘your kin,’ includes poet Joy Goswami, his wife Kaberi Goswami, Shaonli Mitra, Arpita Ghosh, myself, Kaushik Sen, Professor Bolan Gangopadhyay and Prasun Bhaumik. Swajan is made up of people from diverse backgrounds, including writers, theatre personalities and academics. We are not affiliated with any political group and this is our greatest strength as it means we do not have any axe to grind. Our politics is entirely issue-based. Nandigram was the catalyst and we came together after the atrocities committed there. There is always a great tussle between the opposition and the ruling party, but the point is that the state doesn’t belong just to the opposition or the ruling party. It’s ours. In order to protect democracy, we, as citizens, must step in. It is important for intellectuals to be involved. We had been hearing many contradictory reports for a while. The Trinamool camp says the CPM is concocting everything, while the CPM says the Trinamool is concocting everything in collusion with the Maoists. We don’t believe either side. On top of that, the press reports different things. That’s why we decided to investigate Lalgarh by ourselves. When we got to Lalgarh, we found the villagers terrorised because they were caught in the crossfire between the Maoists, the police and the state administration. It all started with the landmine blast by the Maoists in November 2008 when they tried to kill the chief minister. As guerrillas do, the Maoists left the area but the villagers had to bear the brunt of the state’s anger. There was a lot of police brutality. Pregnant women were kicked in the stomach and a woman called Chitamoni Murmu lost her eyesight in the violence. As a result, the villagers formed the People’s Committee Against Police Brutality (PCAPB). We met their leader, Chatradhar Mahato who had told us in Kolkata earlier that in 32 years of Left rule, the government had not done a thing for Lalgarh. Lalgarh is really backward. There is no sanitation, no schools, no proper medical centre, not even electricity. In this age of globalisation, you can’t expect people to be deprived and remain silent. Their demand is for development. It is well known that wherever there is deprivation, the Maoists step in. They provide money and medicine and thus insidiously infiltrate a community. The villagers are very scared because on the one hand there is the police and on the other hand there are the Maoists. The villagers had boycotted the police and the Maoists had apparently even captured some of the police thanas. But it’s not very easy to know what exactly happened because there are so many contradictory reports. On Sunday, June 21, the day we went to Lalgarh, we heard from the villagers and from some journalists that some villagers under the jurisdiction of the Belpahari police thana, had been tortured. Women were dragged out of their homes and stripped. We heard that their saris were hoisted up and they were hit on their private parts. A boy of seven had his bones broken. The worst account is that the police defecated and urinated in the villagers’ meagre store of drinking water. As a result of all this, the villagers left home and went to the relief camps. They were very scared and said that they had dug up the roads and blocked them with trees to stop the police. They insist that theirs is a peaceful, democratic and legitimate movement against police brutality and demanded that the police apologise. The police weren’t even allowing the wounded to be taken to hospital. In fact, while we were with Chattradhar Mahato, we heard him repeatedly asking on his mobile, “Has the patient been taken to the hospital?” Everyone was scared to do so because of the threat of police brutality on the way. They are also scared of the Maoists and did not dare speak out against them. They insist that theirs is a separate movement and say that they cannot help it if Maoists hiding in the forest shoot from there. It’s true that there is a lot of infiltration of Maoists and other parties in the villages. And it is also true that the CPM panchayat has taken a lot of money. Whatever money comes from the Centre is stolen by the Panchayat pradhan. We suggested that the villagers appeal to the Maoists. In fact, if we had access to the Maoists we would have appealed to both parties to lay down their arms. We don’t
[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: Deshabhimani aadine pattiyakkumbol
Inline: 2009/7/7 Ramanan KP ramana...@gmail.com Dear Sebin Many thanks for the clarification. It is a small mistake of an editor. It happens in translation. A mistake is a mistake and there is no point in debating on this. News that goes to the front page is not just a sub-editor's mistake. It goes through several hands at least. Deshabhimani had the courage to admit it and provide the corrected version. The courage came from the fact that, it was not a deliberate act, but an error. To err is humane. The reason why, other Malayalam dailies never admit to their fault is that, they do it purposely. Even the much hyped Mathrubhumi column ചൊവ്വാദോഷം which was introduced following the Hindu's lead, only corrects grammar mistakes and the likes. When a working class party runs a news paper, they would have many challenges to face. Unlike capitalists who are so skilled, it happens when the working class do translation. That is a feeble point to make. Translation is a major work in the central desk. May be editing and rewriting news stories from other centres also. But as the media industry extensively relies on agency takes, the translation is a daily exercise. The banner of a working class news paper doesn't insulate them from knowing the source language and the target language. An editor's desk is not an ideal place to post such a person. The same person might be good in reporting. Posting the right person in the right position is the key. the poor fellow would be facing lot of troubles now. Its likely, especially when looking back to the track record of Deshabhimani and its employee relations. But should such a mistake be spared? It will create a bad precedence, if you take no actions. Then the employees would think, anybody can make any mistake, and if it is found out, the News Paper would apologise. Eventually, the credibility will be at stake. you should realise that he would be some one who never ate a hot dog in his life. may be. may be not. that doesn't make any difference. When in doubt, cut it out is the golden rule of journalism. At least, he should have thought that a man cannot finish eating one dog's meat in the prescribed time, let alone 68. And could even the late Rappai do so? There is more to common sense, than to any preoccupied class sense. translations are also about class, they are not innocent. Now that is a valid point. But can the journalists be equated with the old school of blue collar working class? Do the same sort of working class exist as it did at the time of communist manifesto? The mode of employee-employer relations have changed. Classes have merged and reformed. There is as much a capitalist in a laborer as there is a proletariat in a capitalist. The production line has changed all. Deshahimani made a correction. How many news papers in Kerala will do it? I suppose, none other. For instance, even after the CBI called the phone tapping news of AG, a spoof, the newspapers that ran the news as main stories the other day did not even mind to acknowledge it. When CPI(M) has a victory over evil forces,like chengara or lalgarh none of you say anything about it. You will only talk when the party make small mistakes. Chengara and Lalgarh are two different issues. There is no point in mixing up the two. As a comment on this may divert the thread, I am just ignoring this reference. Any how, my learning is different to that of the party and that doesn't mean that, I am completely against them either. Party i strong in local level. Party people are busy curbing local problems. Unless the factionalism ceases or is put to sleep, the local hold of the party will decrease. We would hope that, it does not happen, especially when the congress is playing the populist by engaging the central left politricks. dont you dare reduce the party to a set of 'copy editors'. Party and the paper has better things to do. Again, if and only if, the factionalism subsides. Readers can wait for a day to see what actually happened. നേരറിയാന്‍ നേരത്തെ അറിയാന്‍ (to know the truth early) is their motto. Then how come people have to wait a day or two for that? And this is not the era of just news papers. We have all these wonderful social media tools out there and emerging wonders such as wave is in the offing. Not to let television out. After all what is the problem in translating hotdog as choodu patti? Basics, sir. Just the basics. Imperialist forces always try to undermine the efforts of comrades. Giving the opponent, a chance to ridicule! Now green youth readers have to decide whom do they trust. A small typographic error from party or the large campaign against socialism from capitalist sympathisers. I would like to trust the party. Not on this 'not-so-typographic' error. But on larger campaigns. -- Understanding is a three-edged sword: your side, their side, and the truth
[GreenYouth] Excerpts from a letter written by a young man concerned about the Dalits of Kandhamal
I continue to be dismayed at the challenge that Dalits and Muslims in our country face in exercising thier freedom of religion. Yesterday, Ranjit forwarded a very disturbing report about a riot in Rohini. This morning the papers report that Muslims in Mysore were attacked because they were constructing a place of religious study, and also in continuation of some previous conflicts in the area. The legal response will take its course, but what will restore the sense of peace and security of the villagers who have suffered so much for so long? - Cynthia [A]fter about an year from now, in August 2008, when the Dalit Christians were attacked, killed and their houses and churches were burnt to ashes in Khandamal, Orissa, Justice Chitta Ranjan Das of the fast track court II in Phulbani, convicted first person Mr. Chakradhar Mallick, 58 years old in the riots case with two years of imprisonment and a fine of one thousand rupees today. Adv. BD.Das, an advoacte at the High Court in Orissa on behalf of the Utkal Christian Council (UCC) has been leading a team of lawyers in fighting for justice for the Dalit Christians in Khandamal. Adv. BD Das explains that, with the available witnesses, (though many of the survivors of the riots are unable to identify the people who burnt their houses for they attacked in a mob, and they were running into jungles to save their lives), the trail has been fairly in a right direction, and justice will be ensured by convicting the miscreants. On a day to day basis lawyers have been attending the Court of law in Phulbani, about 250 kms from the State Capital to implore on behalf of the victims survivors of violence, hatred and prejudices. According to the news from UCC, nearly 10,000 have been named in the 827 cases registered, where charge sheets have been filed for 437 cases and the investigations have been in progress. Meanwhile, after the Central Home Minister Mr. P. Chidambaram's recent visit to Khandamal and his apology to the survivors of the riots, the last batch of Central Reserve Police Force have been withdrawn from Khandamal, and the the people living in relief camps have been asked to go back to their houses, however there are still 1200 people in the camps. We thank you all for your solidarity and support expressed to our people in khandamal thus far, and seek your prayers as the trials are on for justice to be triumphant, and as the traumatised Dalit Christians start to resettle in their own houses in their localities. The road ahead is not a smooth one for the Dalit Christians in Khandamal as they have to start their living from the scratch, for they have lost their beloved ones, houses, property and everything in life. The trauma still continues to haunt these our people, several questions still remains unanswered and unsettled. Will the miscreants and caste fundamentalists allow these Dalit Christians to live peacefully in their own places with out any more attacks on them? Is the assurance of both the Central and State Governments for safety and security worth believing? Will these people be allowed to preach, practice and propagate their faith freely openly? Will justice favour them? How to start living and earning their living? what are the new strategies of the casteist and fundamentalist groups?These and many more unanswered questions still linger in the minds of these survivors of caste conflicts. Raj Bharat Patta -- Cynthia Stephen Independent Writer and Researcher And may you be blessed with the foolishness to think that you can make a difference in the world, so that you will do things which others tell you cannot be done Every budding dictatorship begins by muzzling the artists, because they're a mouthy lot and they don't line up and salute very easily. Margaret Atwood : Canadian Literary Icon. -- Ranjit --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To post to this group, send email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[GreenYouth] Fwd: Himalayan glaciers 'melting fast'
(Not a new story, but thought still worth sharing with this forum) ** Himalayan glaciers 'melting fast' ** Melting Himalayan glaciers could lead to catastrophic water shortages, a conservation group warns. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/2/hi/science/nature/4346211.stm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To post to this group, send email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[GreenYouth] Fwd [Audio] The Iranian Revolution and the question of the State.
[Audio] The Iranian Revolution and the question of the Statehttp://www.marxist.com/audio-iranian-revolution-and-state.htm * By Fred Weston [image: [Audio] The Iranian Revolution and the question of the State]Hear Fred Weston speaking to a recent meeting of Socialist Appeal in Edinburgh on the current Iranian Revolution. He also connects the movement against the Iranian regime with an analysis on the question of the state in a capitalist society. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To post to this group, send email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[GreenYouth] Fwd: (invites) The clock is ticking on climate change as the G8 summit begins this week in Rome - Click below to sign the worldwide petition
-- Forwarded message -- From: EMPOWER INDIA ttn_empo...@sancharnet.in Date: Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 4:37 PM Subject: (invites) The clock is ticking on climate change as the G8 summit begins this week in Rome - Click below to sign the worldwide petition To: EMPOWER INDIA ttn_empo...@sancharnet.in Dear friends, The clock is ticking on climate change as the G8 summit begins this week in Rome. G8 leaders are weighing a pledge to limit global warming below 2 degrees centigrade, the level at which scientists say a deadly climate chain reaction becomes dangerously likely. But Canada, Japan, and Russia are trying to veto the 2-degree limit -- and an immediate global outcry is needed to get it through. If enough of us join together, we can show leaders we won't let them back away from tackling climate change. Click below to sign the worldwide petition -- an Avaaz team in Italy will deliver it directly to world leaders on Thursday at meetings and with spectacular media stunts to shame the climate-wreckers. Then spread the word -- we have less than 72 hours before the G8 reaches its climate decision! * http://www.avaaz.org/en/tcktcktck/97.php?cl_tta_sign=c6e144cb43872b009a662d2bc296a4d9 * Scientists say that if global warming rises past two degrees centigrade, the world's climate systems are very likely to spin out of control -- with searing droughts, sudden floods, and rising seas that spread poverty and force hundreds of millions to relocate. In fact, such climate effects have already begun--but we may be able to avert the worst, if urgent global negotiations succeed this year in reaching a binding global treaty. The talks, set to culminate in Copenhagen this December, could launch a historic shift towards a clean-energy, green-recovery future that leaves the climate safe for future generations. The G8's decision this week will be crucial to achieving a ambitious, fair, and binding global climate treaty at Copenhagen. The G8 leaders -- joined by eleven other heads of government at a parallel Major Economies meeting next door -- represent more than 80% of global climate emissions. And this is the leaders' last in-person negotiation before the make-or-break Copenhagen summit. By trying to block the 2-degree target, Canada, Russia, and Japan have jammed-up the climate talks, endangering the treaty and our future. We know last-moment pressure can change their policies: Avaaz members and other citizen groups flipped Canada's and Japan's position in the closing hours of the Bali UN climate summit in 2007, and campaigners won promises to double aid to Africa at the Gleneagles G8 meeting in 2005. (Of course, Italy's Berlusconi and others have betrayed those promises -- a reminder that we must insist on a legally binding treaty on climate.) Canada's Harper, Japan's Aso, and other leaders could face elections in coming weeks and months -- they can't afford global embarrassment at this summit. Sign the petition, send it to friends, and help rescue the climate target now: http://www.avaaz.org/en/tcktcktck/97.php?cl_tta_sign=c6e144cb43872b009a662d2bc296a4d9 From time to time in history, the forces align that make possible a fundamental shift in the conduct of human affairs. This year could be such a time. If we seize this moment -- if we choose, this year, to remake our economies and rebuild our relationship to the fragile ecosystems that sustain us -- we will leave our grandchildren a legacy etched in the burgeoning of glaciers and the currents of the sea. Humanity's choice will be the sum of the decisions made by each of us, in our private lives and in our political actions. Together, let's choose our future -- the one we all want. With hope, Ben, Taren, Iain, Alice W, Luis, Ricken, Pascal, Paula, Graziela, Paul, Brett, Milena, Margaret, Alice, Raluca, Raj, and the whole Avaaz team. SOURCES Italy G8 summit key to global efforts on climate change http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-07/05/content_11656977.htm Background on 2 degrees threshold: 'Too late to avoid global warming,' say scientists http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/too-late-to-avoid-global-warming-say-scientists-402800.html Canada, Russia Considered Climate ‘Bad Boys’ Among G8 Nations http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601082sid=aKecgoGFIH7Y Make-or-break summit as G8 gamble on climate and economy http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/business/story/0,28124,25738096-36418,00.html EU's Barroso seeks two degrees Celsius pact at G8 http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-GreenBusiness/idUSTRE5653ON20090706 Yours in Global Concern A.SANKAR Executive Director *EMPOWER * -* Centre for Environment** Education, Research and Advocacy* 107J / 133E, Millerpuram TUTICORIN-628 008 INDIA Telefax: 91 461 2310151 Mobile: 91 94431 48599 www.empowerindia.org EMPOWER is a Non-profit, Non-Political, Voluntary and Professional Civil Society Organisation . - Registered in the year 1991- Engaged in
