[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto
I would rather not be party to this treacherous game of sanghis to muster support from people in the cyberworld. One is tired of being asked to see those ugly face(s) of fascism in every other blog carrying adsense links! Just let them answer these questions repeatedly asked : Who killed thousands of innocent people in Gujarat and Orissa with actve connivance of state machinery? Who perpetrate violence and against women , christians and muslims in Karnataka recently,especially in the coastal district of Dakshina Karnataka under the camouflage of one Sene or other? Whio spread lies like India Shining in last elections,whereas, India was actually stinking, and sinking in shame with all these crimes against humanity and the media hypes to cover-up? On Mar 14, 3:32 pm, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Venkatesh Hariharan ven...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:38 PM Subject: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto To: netw...@lists.fosscom.in Dear Friends, Key sections of the FOSS manifesto (Point # 1 on FOSS in education, # 4 on open standards, #5 on encouraging freely shareable, FOSS based knowledge repositories like Wikipedia in Indian languages), have been strongly articulated in the BJP's IT vision document that was unveiled today by BJP's prime ministerial candidate, Shri LK Advani. The 40 page vision document is at: http://www.lkadvani.in/eng/images/stories/it-vision.pdf The press release is at: http://www.lkadvani.in/eng/content/view/799/281/ I am also enclosing my blog on this subject: Venky = http://osindia.blogspot.com/2009/03/bjps-it-vision-supports-open-sour... Saturday, March 14, 2009 BJP's IT Vision supports open source and open standards The BJP, the largest opposition in India has released an IT Vision document that endorses open source and open standards. Many of the points mentioned in the FOSS Manifesto for India that we put up online last week have been incorporated in this document. This document was unveiled by none other than Shri. LK Advani, the BJP's candidate for Prime Minister. I did a quick read of the 40 page document and am impressed with how thorough and comprehensive it is. As a long time supporter of free and open source software, I am delighted to see a major Indian political party endorse it. However, I am even more delighted to see that this endorsement is rooted in a comprehensive vision for India's development. A big chunk of the credit for this document should go to Shri. Sudheendra Kulkarni (an alumnus of IIT Bombay) and Shri Prodyut Bora (an alumnus of IIM Ahmedabad). Shri Kulkarni was advisor to Shri Atal Behari Vajpayee when Vajpayee was prime Minister of India and Shri Bora is Head of the IT Cell of the BJP. I was happy to see that the Digital Colonization theme that my friend, Jaijit Bhattacharya of Sun talks about has been incorporated in this document. Apart from the FOSS Manifesto, some of my key passions on open standards (that we don't pay for standards like weights and measures in the physical world, so why should we pay for standards in the digital world?) have been reflected. Also, as a co-founder of IndLinux.org which we started in 2000 in an attempt to bridge the digital divide, I am happy to see that the BJP has promised to create a National Mission for Indian Language Computing. The CPI(M), another national party in India has always been a strong supporter of our stand on open source, open standards and our fight against software patents. We are hopeful that other political parties will also take cognizance of the FOSS Manifesto and incorporate the same into their IT plans for India. With the country scheduled to go to polls next month, we now have a broad consensus emerging around the use of open source and open standards. This is great news for all of us who believe in free and open source software! ___ Network mailing list netw...@lists.fosscom.inhttp://lists.fosscom.in/listinfo.cgi/network-fosscom.in -- Any responsible politician should be encouraging a home grown Free Software industry because it creates the basis for future jobs. Learning Windows is like learning to eat every meal at McDonalds.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To post to this group, send email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 4:26 PM, venukm kmvenuan...@gmail.com wrote: I would rather not be party to this treacherous game of sanghis to muster support from people in the cyberworld. One is tired of being asked to see those ugly face(s) of fascism in every other blog carrying adsense links! What I usually suggest is to click on each and every advani add. so the poor Indian website owner will get Benefited and BJP will loose money :-) BJP must understand Clicks are Not the votes. But the Campaign for Promotting Free Software Open standards to Manifestos are Different. BJP become a First adopter of the points we put put up in FOSS Manifesto. I hope all the parties will also adopt more and more points from the FOSS manifesto released by civil society groups . Let Them Compete on Healthy Grounds .. Anivar Just let them answer these questions repeatedly asked : Who killed thousands of innocent people in Gujarat and Orissa with actve connivance of state machinery? Who perpetrate violence and against women , christians and muslims in Karnataka recently,especially in the coastal district of Dakshina Karnataka under the camouflage of one Sene or other? Whio spread lies like India Shining in last elections,whereas, India was actually stinking, and sinking in shame with all these crimes against humanity and the media hypes to cover-up? On Mar 14, 3:32 pm, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Venkatesh Hariharan ven...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:38 PM Subject: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto To: netw...@lists.fosscom.in Dear Friends, Key sections of the FOSS manifesto (Point # 1 on FOSS in education, # 4 on open standards, #5 on encouraging freely shareable, FOSS based knowledge repositories like Wikipedia in Indian languages), have been strongly articulated in the BJP's IT vision document that was unveiled today by BJP's prime ministerial candidate, Shri LK Advani. The 40 page vision document is at: http://www.lkadvani.in/eng/images/stories/it-vision.pdf The press release is at: http://www.lkadvani.in/eng/content/view/799/281/ I am also enclosing my blog on this subject: Venky = http://osindia.blogspot.com/2009/03/bjps-it-vision-supports-open-sour... Saturday, March 14, 2009 BJP's IT Vision supports open source and open standards The BJP, the largest opposition in India has released an IT Vision document that endorses open source and open standards. Many of the points mentioned in the FOSS Manifesto for India that we put up online last week have been incorporated in this document. This document was unveiled by none other than Shri. LK Advani, the BJP's candidate for Prime Minister. I did a quick read of the 40 page document and am impressed with how thorough and comprehensive it is. As a long time supporter of free and open source software, I am delighted to see a major Indian political party endorse it. However, I am even more delighted to see that this endorsement is rooted in a comprehensive vision for India's development. A big chunk of the credit for this document should go to Shri. Sudheendra Kulkarni (an alumnus of IIT Bombay) and Shri Prodyut Bora (an alumnus of IIM Ahmedabad). Shri Kulkarni was advisor to Shri Atal Behari Vajpayee when Vajpayee was prime Minister of India and Shri Bora is Head of the IT Cell of the BJP. I was happy to see that the Digital Colonization theme that my friend, Jaijit Bhattacharya of Sun talks about has been incorporated in this document. Apart from the FOSS Manifesto, some of my key passions on open standards (that we don't pay for standards like weights and measures in the physical world, so why should we pay for standards in the digital world?) have been reflected. Also, as a co-founder of IndLinux.org which we started in 2000 in an attempt to bridge the digital divide, I am happy to see that the BJP has promised to create a National Mission for Indian Language Computing. The CPI(M), another national party in India has always been a strong supporter of our stand on open source, open standards and our fight against software patents. We are hopeful that other political parties will also take cognizance of the FOSS Manifesto and incorporate the same into their IT plans for India. With the country scheduled to go to polls next month, we now have a broad consensus emerging around the use of open source and open standards. This is great news for all of us who believe in free and open source software! ___ Network mailing list netw...@lists.fosscom.inhttp://lists.fosscom.in/listinfo.cgi/network-fosscom.in -- Any responsible politician should be encouraging a home grown Free Software industry because it creates the basis for future jobs. Learning Windows is like learning to eat every meal at McDonalds.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted
[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto
Anivar, I think the questions Venu has raised still stands... Should we rather raise these questions to BJP or appreciate BJP for the first adopter of FOSS manifesto? Regards Afthab Ellath On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 4:26 PM, venukm kmvenuan...@gmail.com wrote: I would rather not be party to this treacherous game of sanghis to muster support from people in the cyberworld. One is tired of being asked to see those ugly face(s) of fascism in every other blog carrying adsense links! What I usually suggest is to click on each and every advani add. so the poor Indian website owner will get Benefited and BJP will loose money :-) BJP must understand Clicks are Not the votes. But the Campaign for Promotting Free Software Open standards to Manifestos are Different. BJP become a First adopter of the points we put put up in FOSS Manifesto. I hope all the parties will also adopt more and more points from the FOSS manifesto released by civil society groups . Let Them Compete on Healthy Grounds .. Anivar Just let them answer these questions repeatedly asked : Who killed thousands of innocent people in Gujarat and Orissa with actve connivance of state machinery? Who perpetrate violence and against women , christians and muslims in Karnataka recently,especially in the coastal district of Dakshina Karnataka under the camouflage of one Sene or other? Whio spread lies like India Shining in last elections,whereas, India was actually stinking, and sinking in shame with all these crimes against humanity and the media hypes to cover-up? On Mar 14, 3:32 pm, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Venkatesh Hariharan ven...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:38 PM Subject: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto To: netw...@lists.fosscom.in Dear Friends, Key sections of the FOSS manifesto (Point # 1 on FOSS in education, # 4 on open standards, #5 on encouraging freely shareable, FOSS based knowledge repositories like Wikipedia in Indian languages), have been strongly articulated in the BJP's IT vision document that was unveiled today by BJP's prime ministerial candidate, Shri LK Advani. The 40 page vision document is at: http://www.lkadvani.in/eng/images/stories/it-vision.pdf The press release is at: http://www.lkadvani.in/eng/content/view/799/281/ I am also enclosing my blog on this subject: Venky = http://osindia.blogspot.com/2009/03/bjps-it-vision-supports-open-sour. .. Saturday, March 14, 2009 BJP's IT Vision supports open source and open standards The BJP, the largest opposition in India has released an IT Vision document that endorses open source and open standards. Many of the points mentioned in the FOSS Manifesto for India that we put up online last week have been incorporated in this document. This document was unveiled by none other than Shri. LK Advani, the BJP's candidate for Prime Minister. I did a quick read of the 40 page document and am impressed with how thorough and comprehensive it is. As a long time supporter of free and open source software, I am delighted to see a major Indian political party endorse it. However, I am even more delighted to see that this endorsement is rooted in a comprehensive vision for India's development. A big chunk of the credit for this document should go to Shri. Sudheendra Kulkarni (an alumnus of IIT Bombay) and Shri Prodyut Bora (an alumnus of IIM Ahmedabad). Shri Kulkarni was advisor to Shri Atal Behari Vajpayee when Vajpayee was prime Minister of India and Shri Bora is Head of the IT Cell of the BJP. I was happy to see that the Digital Colonization theme that my friend, Jaijit Bhattacharya of Sun talks about has been incorporated in this document. Apart from the FOSS Manifesto, some of my key passions on open standards (that we don't pay for standards like weights and measures in the physical world, so why should we pay for standards in the digital world?) have been reflected. Also, as a co-founder of IndLinux.org which we started in 2000 in an attempt to bridge the digital divide, I am happy to see that the BJP has promised to create a National Mission for Indian Language Computing. The CPI(M), another national party in India has always been a strong supporter of our stand on open source, open standards and our fight against software patents. We are hopeful that other political parties will also take cognizance of the FOSS Manifesto and incorporate the same into their IT plans for India. With the country scheduled to go to polls next month, we now have a broad consensus emerging around the use of open source and open standards. This is great news for all of us who believe in free and open source software!
[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto
normally,civil society activism dosen't bother about the right wing co-option of their agenda.earlier,zizek pointed out its dangeorus consequences. --- On Sat, 14/3/09, Afthab Ellath aftha...@gmail.com wrote: From: Afthab Ellath aftha...@gmail.com Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto To: greenyouth@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, 14 March, 2009, 5:22 PM Anivar, I think the questions Venu has raised still stands... Should we rather raise these questions to BJP or appreciate BJP for the first adopter of FOSS manifesto? Regards Afthab Ellath On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 4:26 PM, venukm kmvenuan...@gmail.com wrote: I would rather not be party to this treacherous game of sanghis to muster support from people in the cyberworld. One is tired of being asked to see those ugly face(s) of fascism in every other blog carrying adsense links! What I usually suggest is to click on each and every advani add. so the poor Indian website owner will get Benefited and BJP will loose money :-) BJP must understand Clicks are Not the votes. But the Campaign for Promotting Free Software Open standards to Manifestos are Different. BJP become a First adopter of the points we put put up in FOSS Manifesto. I hope all the parties will also adopt more and more points from the FOSS manifesto released by civil society groups . Let Them Compete on Healthy Grounds .. Anivar Just let them answer these questions repeatedly asked : Who killed thousands of innocent people in Gujarat and Orissa with actve connivance of state machinery? Who perpetrate violence and against women , christians and muslims in Karnataka recently,especially in the coastal district of Dakshina Karnataka under the camouflage of one Sene or other? Whio spread lies like India Shining in last elections,whereas, India was actually stinking, and sinking in shame with all these crimes against humanity and the media hypes to cover-up? On Mar 14, 3:32 pm, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Venkatesh Hariharan ven...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:38 PM Subject: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto To: netw...@lists.fosscom.in Dear Friends, Key sections of the FOSS manifesto (Point # 1 on FOSS in education, # 4 on open standards, #5 on encouraging freely shareable, FOSS based knowledge repositories like Wikipedia in Indian languages), have been strongly articulated in the BJP's IT vision document that was unveiled today by BJP's prime ministerial candidate, Shri LK Advani. The 40 page vision document is at: http://www.lkadvani.in/eng/images/stories/it-vision.pdf The press release is at: http://www.lkadvani.in/eng/content/view/799/281/ I am also enclosing my blog on this subject: Venky = http://osindia.blogspot.com/2009/03/bjps-it-vision-supports-open-sour Saturday, March 14, 2009 BJP's IT Vision supports open source and open standards The BJP, the largest opposition in India has released an IT Vision document that endorses open source and open standards. Many of the points mentioned in the FOSS Manifesto for India that we put up online last week have been incorporated in this document. This document was unveiled by none other than Shri. LK Advani, the BJP's candidate for Prime Minister. I did a quick read of the 40 page document and am impressed with how thorough and comprehensive it is. As a long time supporter of free and open source software, I am delighted to see a major Indian political party endorse it. However, I am even more delighted to see that this endorsement is rooted in a comprehensive vision for India's development. A big chunk of the credit for this document should go to Shri. Sudheendra Kulkarni (an alumnus of IIT Bombay) and Shri Prodyut Bora (an alumnus of IIM Ahmedabad). Shri Kulkarni was advisor to Shri Atal Behari Vajpayee when Vajpayee was prime Minister of India and Shri Bora is Head of the IT Cell of the BJP. I was happy to see that the Digital Colonization theme that my friend, Jaijit Bhattacharya of Sun talks about has been incorporated in this document. Apart from the FOSS Manifesto, some of my key passions on open standards (that we don't pay for standards like weights and measures in the physical world, so why should we pay for standards in the digital world?) have been reflected. Also, as a co-founder of IndLinux.org which we started in 2000 in an attempt to bridge the digital divide, I am happy
[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto
What Venu indicated and Viswanath pointed out are very very significant questions. It also reveals the inherent limits of some civil society movements, which can be taken under wings- right or left. On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 6:20 PM, C.K. Vishwanath ck_vishwanath2...@yahoo.com wrote: normally,civil society activism dosen't bother about the right wing co-option of their agenda.earlier,zizek pointed out its dangeorus consequences. --- On Sat, 14/3/09, Afthab Ellath aftha...@gmail.com wrote: From: Afthab Ellath aftha...@gmail.com Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto To: greenyouth@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, 14 March, 2009, 5:22 PM Anivar, I think the questions Venu has raised still stands... Should we rather raise these questions to BJP or appreciate BJP for the first adopter of FOSS manifesto? Regards Afthab Ellath On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 4:26 PM, venukm kmvenuan...@gmail.com wrote: I would rather not be party to this treacherous game of sanghis to muster support from people in the cyberworld. One is tired of being asked to see those ugly face(s) of fascism in every other blog carrying adsense links! What I usually suggest is to click on each and every advani add. so the poor Indian website owner will get Benefited and BJP will loose money :-) BJP must understand Clicks are Not the votes. But the Campaign for Promotting Free Software Open standards to Manifestos are Different. BJP become a First adopter of the points we put put up in FOSS Manifesto. I hope all the parties will also adopt more and more points from the FOSS manifesto released by civil society groups . Let Them Compete on Healthy Grounds .. Anivar Just let them answer these questions repeatedly asked : Who killed thousands of innocent people in Gujarat and Orissa with actve connivance of state machinery? Who perpetrate violence and against women , christians and muslims in Karnataka recently,especially in the coastal district of Dakshina Karnataka under the camouflage of one Sene or other? Whio spread lies like India Shining in last elections,whereas, India was actually stinking, and sinking in shame with all these crimes against humanity and the media hypes to cover-up? On Mar 14, 3:32 pm, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Venkatesh Hariharan ven...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:38 PM Subject: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto To: netw...@lists.fosscom.in Dear Friends, Key sections of the FOSS manifesto (Point # 1 on FOSS in education, # 4 on open standards, #5 on encouraging freely shareable, FOSS based knowledge repositories like Wikipedia in Indian languages), have been strongly articulated in the BJP's IT vision document that was unveiled today by BJP's prime ministerial candidate, Shri LK Advani. The 40 page vision document is at: http://www.lkadvani.in/eng/images/stories/it-vision.pdf The press release is at: http://www.lkadvani.in/eng/content/view/799/281/ I am also enclosing my blog on this subject: Venky = http://osindia.blogspot.com/2009/03/bjps-it-vision-supports-open-sour Saturday, March 14, 2009 BJP's IT Vision supports open source and open standards The BJP, the largest opposition in India has released an IT Vision document that endorses open source and open standards. Many of the points mentioned in the FOSS Manifesto for India that we put up online last week have been incorporated in this document. This document was unveiled by none other than Shri. LK Advani, the BJP's candidate for Prime Minister. I did a quick read of the 40 page document and am impressed with how thorough and comprehensive it is. As a long time supporter of free and open source software, I am delighted to see a major Indian political party endorse it. However, I am even more delighted to see that this endorsement is rooted in a comprehensive vision for India's development. A big chunk of the credit for this document should go to Shri. Sudheendra Kulkarni (an alumnus of IIT Bombay) and Shri Prodyut Bora (an alumnus of IIM Ahmedabad). Shri Kulkarni was advisor to Shri Atal Behari Vajpayee when Vajpayee was prime Minister of India and Shri Bora is Head of the IT Cell of the BJP. I was happy to see that the Digital Colonization theme that my friend, Jaijit Bhattacharya of Sun talks about has
[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto
More than that,the political hindutva -the modern day avatar of exclusive cultural nationalist project is very much sophisticated to accommodate any kind of technological advance very easily.sudheendra kulkarni who gave secular fundamentalism to advani to poluplarise that term in indian politics,represents a new generation leaders of techno-nationalist hindutva project.like swapan das gupta ,sudheendra kulkarni was a left-liberal past. --- On Sat, 14/3/09, damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com wrote: From: damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto To: greenyouth@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, 14 March, 2009, 6:33 PM What Venu indicated and Viswanath pointed out are very very significant questions. It also reveals the inherent limits of some civil society movements, which can be taken under wings- right or left. On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 6:20 PM, C.K. Vishwanath ck_vishwanath2...@yahoo..com wrote: normally,civil society activism dosen't bother about the right wing co-option of their agenda.earlier,zizek pointed out its dangeorus consequences. --- On Sat, 14/3/09, Afthab Ellath aftha...@gmail.com wrote: From: Afthab Ellath aftha...@gmail.com Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto To: greenyouth@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, 14 March, 2009, 5:22 PM Anivar, I think the questions Venu has raised still stands... Should we rather raise these questions to BJP or appreciate BJP for the first adopter of FOSS manifesto? Regards Afthab Ellath On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 4:26 PM, venukm kmvenuan...@gmail.com wrote: I would rather not be party to this treacherous game of sanghis to muster support from people in the cyberworld. One is tired of being asked to see those ugly face(s) of fascism in every other blog carrying adsense links! What I usually suggest is to click on each and every advani add. so the poor Indian website owner will get Benefited and BJP will loose money :-) BJP must understand Clicks are Not the votes. But the Campaign for Promotting Free Software Open standards to Manifestos are Different. BJP become a First adopter of the points we put put up in FOSS Manifesto. I hope all the parties will also adopt more and more points from the FOSS manifesto released by civil society groups . Let Them Compete on Healthy Grounds .. Anivar Just let them answer these questions repeatedly asked : Who killed thousands of innocent people in Gujarat and Orissa with actve connivance of state machinery? Who perpetrate violence and against women , christians and muslims in Karnataka recently,especially in the coastal district of Dakshina Karnataka under the camouflage of one Sene or other? Whio spread lies like India Shining in last elections,whereas, India was actually stinking, and sinking in shame with all these crimes against humanity and the media hypes to cover-up? On Mar 14, 3:32 pm, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Venkatesh Hariharan ven...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:38 PM Subject: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto To: netw...@lists.fosscom.in Dear Friends, Key sections of the FOSS manifesto (Point # 1 on FOSS in education, # 4 on open standards, #5 on encouraging freely shareable, FOSS based knowledge repositories like Wikipedia in Indian languages), have been strongly articulated in the BJP's IT vision document that was unveiled today by BJP's prime ministerial candidate, Shri LK Advani. The 40 page vision document is at: http://www.lkadvani.in/eng/images/stories/it-vision.pdf The press release is at: http://www.lkadvani.in/eng/content/view/799/281/ I am also enclosing my blog on this subject: Venky = http://osindia.blogspot.com/2009/03/bjps-it-vision-supports-open-sour Saturday, March 14, 2009 BJP's IT Vision supports open source and open standards The BJP, the largest opposition in India has released an IT Vision document that endorses open source and open
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--- On Sat, 14/3/09, C.K. Vishwanath ck_vishwanath2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: C.K. Vishwanath ck_vishwanath2...@yahoo.com Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto To: greenyouth@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, 14 March, 2009, 7:05 PM More than that,the political hindutva -the modern day avatar of exclusive cultural nationalist project is very much sophisticated to accommodate any kind of technological advances very easily.sudheendra kulkarni who gave secular fundamentalism to advani to poluplarise that term in indian politics,represents a new generation leaders of techno-nationalist hindutva project.like swapan das gupta ,sudheendra kulkarni was in a left-liberal past. The other question is that dominance of hindutva politics in indian technocratic world. --- On Sat, 14/3/09, damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com wrote: From: damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto To: greenyouth@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, 14 March, 2009, 6:33 PM What Venu indicated and Viswanath pointed out are very very significant questions. It also reveals the inherent limits of some civil society movements, which can be taken under wings- right or left. On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 6:20 PM, C.K. Vishwanath ck_vishwanath2...@yahoo..com wrote: normally,civil society activism dosen't bother about the right wing co-option of their agenda.earlier,zizek pointed out its dangeorus consequences. --- On Sat, 14/3/09, Afthab Ellath aftha...@gmail.com wrote: From: Afthab Ellath aftha...@gmail.com Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto To: greenyouth@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, 14 March, 2009, 5:22 PM Anivar, I think the questions Venu has raised still stands... Should we rather raise these questions to BJP or appreciate BJP for the first adopter of FOSS manifesto? Regards Afthab Ellath On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 4:26 PM, venukm kmvenuan...@gmail.com wrote: I would rather not be party to this treacherous game of sanghis to muster support from people in the cyberworld. One is tired of being asked to see those ugly face(s) of fascism in every other blog carrying adsense links! What I usually suggest is to click on each and every advani add. so the poor Indian website owner will get Benefited and BJP will loose money :-) BJP must understand Clicks are Not the votes. But the Campaign for Promotting Free Software Open standards to Manifestos are Different. BJP become a First adopter of the points we put put up in FOSS Manifesto. I hope all the parties will also adopt more and more points from the FOSS manifesto released by civil society groups . Let Them Compete on Healthy Grounds .. Anivar Just let them answer these questions repeatedly asked : Who killed thousands of innocent people in Gujarat and Orissa with actve connivance of state machinery? Who perpetrate violence and against women , christians and muslims in Karnataka recently,especially in the coastal district of Dakshina Karnataka under the camouflage of one Sene or other? Whio spread lies like India Shining in last elections,whereas, India was actually stinking, and sinking in shame with all these crimes against humanity and the media hypes to cover-up? On Mar 14, 3:32 pm, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Venkatesh Hariharan ven...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:38 PM Subject: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto To: netw...@lists.fosscom.in Dear Friends, Key sections of the FOSS manifesto (Point # 1 on FOSS in education, # 4 on open standards, #5 on encouraging freely shareable, FOSS based knowledge repositories like Wikipedia in Indian languages), have been strongly articulated in the BJP's IT vision document that was unveiled today by BJP's prime
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I don't think the statement BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifestowas giving credit to anyone or they should get any credit from it or accepting one positive manifesto by any political party will erase the wrong actions they have taken in the past. If any other party follows suite I will be happy and lets not give credit to anyone for accepting it. I would rather not be party to this treacherous game of sanghis to muster support from people in the cyberworld this may not be true in all cases and most of the people in the cyber world are still not aware of FOSS and its benefits. I just came back from a long discussion about FOSS to a very knowledgable tech savy person. Unfortunately being a member of the cyber world doesn't mean that they have know how about the evil licenses or products out there. ~ bobinson -- http://freebird.in 2009/3/14 C.K. Vishwanath ck_vishwanath2...@yahoo.com --- On Sat, 14/3/09, C.K. Vishwanath ck_vishwanath2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: C.K. Vishwanath ck_vishwanath2...@yahoo.com Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto To: greenyouth@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, 14 March, 2009, 7:05 PM More than that,the political hindutva -the modern day avatar of exclusive cultural nationalist project is very much sophisticated to accommodate any kind of technological advances very easily.sudheendra kulkarni who gave secular fundamentalism to advani to poluplarise that term in indian politics,represents a new generation leaders of techno-nationalist hindutva project.like swapan das gupta ,sudheendra kulkarni was in a left-liberal past. The other question is that dominance of hindutva politics in indian technocratic world. --- On Sat, 14/3/09, damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com wrote: From: damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto To: greenyouth@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, 14 March, 2009, 6:33 PM What Venu indicated and Viswanath pointed out are very very significant questions. It also reveals the inherent limits of some civil society movements, which can be taken under wings- right or left. On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 6:20 PM, C.K. Vishwanath ck_vishwanath2...@yahoo..com wrote: normally,civil society activism dosen't bother about the right wing co-option of their agenda.earlier,zizek pointed out its dangeorus consequences. --- On Sat, 14/3/09, Afthab Ellath aftha...@gmail.com wrote: From: Afthab Ellath aftha...@gmail.com Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto To: greenyouth@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, 14 March, 2009, 5:22 PM Anivar, I think the questions Venu has raised still stands... Should we rather raise these questions to BJP or appreciate BJP for the first adopter of FOSS manifesto? Regards Afthab Ellath On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 4:26 PM, venukm kmvenuan...@gmail.com wrote: I would rather not be party to this treacherous game of sanghis to muster support from people in the cyberworld. One is tired of being asked to see those ugly face(s) of fascism in every other blog carrying adsense links! What I usually suggest is to click on each and every advani add. so the poor Indian website owner will get Benefited and BJP will loose money :-) BJP must understand Clicks are Not the votes. But the Campaign for Promotting Free Software Open standards to Manifestos are Different. BJP become a First adopter of the points we put put up in FOSS Manifesto. I hope all the parties will also adopt more and more points from the FOSS manifesto released by civil society groups . Let Them Compete on Healthy Grounds .. Anivar Just let them answer these questions repeatedly asked : Who killed thousands of innocent people in Gujarat and Orissa with actve connivance of state machinery? Who perpetrate violence and against women , christians and muslims in Karnataka recently,especially in the coastal district of Dakshina Karnataka under the camouflage of one Sene or other? Whio spread lies
[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto
2009/3/14 damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com: What Venu indicated and Viswanath pointed out are very very significant questions. It also reveals the inherent limits of some civil society movements, which can be taken under wings- right or left. I think this assumption comes from the experience of many movements taken under wings in the past. But the difference here is the distributed nature of Free Software movement and lack of a hierarchy. Also another feature of Free Software is the ability to be accepted across the political spectrum - from right to left or from capitalist to communist. BJP's support of Free Software does not mean every one in the Free Software community will forget what it has done in the past or what are its policies in other areas. -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് GPLv2 I know my rights; I want my phone call! DRM What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To post to this group, send email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the FOSS Manifesto
To agree to Praveen's points, I clicked the damn blog URL once again and made the saffron loose some money ! 2009/3/15 Praveen A prav...@gmail.com 2009/3/14 damodar prasad damodar.pra...@gmail.com: What Venu indicated and Viswanath pointed out are very very significant questions. It also reveals the inherent limits of some civil society movements, which can be taken under wings- right or left. I think this assumption comes from the experience of many movements taken under wings in the past. But the difference here is the distributed nature of Free Software movement and lack of a hierarchy. Also another feature of Free Software is the ability to be accepted across the political spectrum - from right to left or from capitalist to communist. BJP's support of Free Software does not mean every one in the Free Software community will forget what it has done in the past or what are its policies in other areas. -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് GPLv2 I know my rights; I want my phone call! DRM What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To post to this group, send email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
