Re: [h-cost] Re: French Hood cute portrait repros

2006-11-15 Thread Suzi Clarke

At 03:40 15/11/2006, you wrote:

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museum. There seems to be a French Hood frame there too, but it's like
no French Hood shape I've ever seen.


There are two MoL wire frames possibly from French hoods that are 
pictured in The Age of Transition:  The Archaeology of English 
Culture 1400-1600.  They're very similar.  Is this what you're referring to?


Each of them has a little ball on both ends of the curve and a spot 
at each side about temple level where the wire makes a small loop 
before continuing on the rest of the curve.


My theory for this is that the little loops in the wire are anchor 
points for firmly attaching the wire to the foundation of the 
crescent.  When I used it this way in my hood, it worked very well.


Melanie


I don't know the book to which you refer, but your description sounds 
about right. Good to know it worked for you.


Suzi 


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Re: [h-cost] Re: French Hood (was Tudor Tailor review)

2006-11-15 Thread Suzi Clarke

At 03:44 15/11/2006, you wrote:

Suzi Clarke wrote:
Gable headdresses seem to have been made on a metal wire frame. The 
one I made for the Museum of London was based on a copy of the 
frame in the museum. ...
If you want to see it, go here. 
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/Sistersuzi/Vermeer1.jpg


Very pretty!  Do the falls in back extend from the two bottom sides 
of the square in back as they do in the Holbein drawing?  They look 
like they're hanging a little straighter than that.


What did you use for stiffening besides the wire frame?



There was the wire frame at the front, then a square frame for the 
back, set diagonally. The two were joined/covered with some stiff 
Vilene and Pelmform (a stiff stuff you use for curtain pelmets). 
This began to crumple while I was working on it, so I reinforced it 
with very short lengths of steel boning from my corset stash. I think 
buckram would probably have been the best answer, but I find that 
very hard to handle these days.


Suzi

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Re: [h-cost] iron corset

2006-11-15 Thread michaela
 There's a line in Eleanora di Firenza's accounts that shows she
 ordered two.  One is in either the Bargello or the Palazzo Vecchio
 collection in Florence.  I saw it last summer.  The docent there
 claimed the steel corset was ordered as an orthotic, rather like a
 backbrace.

http://www.bordersstores.com/features/feature.jsp?file=corset
For more information regarding orthopaedic use. This is from the first
chapter of Corset by Valerie Steele. A most useful little page.

 Another is in the Italian Rennaissance exhibit at the VA London.
 This one I saw 2 weeks ago, tho I dont recall the owning organization.
 Both of these corsets are steel.  The catalog for At Home in the
 Italian Rennaissance states the corset is from the Museo Stibbert
 collection, provenance unknown. The catalog says this corset is for a
 65cm bust.
http://www.vam.ac.uk/vastatic/microsites/1487_renaissance/rituals.html
This is one of the few that really does look to be an original as the shape
is right.

Michaela
http://glittersweet.com

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[h-cost] costuming website

2006-11-15 Thread Ailith Mackintosh
The text in the pdf files are in Czech, but there are some paintings I've 
never seen before. And they have pictures of extant garments, too!


http://www.kostym.cz/

Just click on the British flag for English.


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[h-cost] hair taping

2006-11-15 Thread Julie
Sorry getting in the middle of the topic. Have you tried braiding your hair
when wet or with a little gel or mousse? Usually it isn't thick hair that is
the problem but how smooth/slick the strands are.
De
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Hi Elizabeth,

  Yes, I've tried the hair taping (as seen in the second link you gave), and
it will only stay on my head if I then wrap the hair in a kertch. It won't
stay up on its own, and it wouldn't stay stable for a base for the French
hood. Also, it falls apart in the kertch that I wore, and only the wrapping
of the fabric around my head kept it from coming down.

  Maybe it is because I am doing my own hair, it is very thick, and I really
don't do much practice in hair braiding in general. I am not sure what else
to try, so I gladly will accept suggestions.

  Kimiko
-
Maybe it has to do with what you're using for the hair taping.  Usually we use 
single faced satin ribbon.  Comes out in a day.  At one fair we were out of 
ribbon and so used the lucet braid I had on hand made out of cotton rug warp.  
That hair taping stayed in for 3 days!  I slept with a silk scarf over it.  It 
would have stayed UP longer, but there were too many fuzzies escaping.

I wonder if using cotton twill tape instead of satin ribbon would work better.

Julie

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RE: [h-cost] hair taping

2006-11-15 Thread Elisabeth Doornink
I do hair taping just as a modern type hair do, and have found that I either
need to do it when it's wet, or when I've got a bunch of small-ish claw
clips to anchor the hair as I tape it. It's gotten easier and easier as my
hair has grown - a twist of hair reaches from behind one ear over to the
next, and the gravity of the strand helps keep it in place. 

Quia Christus perpetuo regnat, 
Elisabeth

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Subject: [h-cost] hair taping

Sorry getting in the middle of the topic. Have you tried braiding your hair
when wet or with a little gel or mousse? Usually it isn't thick hair that is
the problem but how smooth/slick the strands are.
De
-Original Message-
Hi Elizabeth,

  Yes, I've tried the hair taping (as seen in the second link you gave), and
it will only stay on my head if I then wrap the hair in a kertch. It won't
stay up on its own, and it wouldn't stay stable for a base for the French
hood. Also, it falls apart in the kertch that I wore, and only the wrapping
of the fabric around my head kept it from coming down.

  Maybe it is because I am doing my own hair, it is very thick, and I really
don't do much practice in hair braiding in general. I am not sure what else
to try, so I gladly will accept suggestions.

  Kimiko
-
Maybe it has to do with what you're using for the hair taping.  Usually we
use single faced satin ribbon.  Comes out in a day.  At one fair we were out
of ribbon and so used the lucet braid I had on hand made out of cotton rug
warp.  That hair taping stayed in for 3 days!  I slept with a silk scarf
over it.  It would have stayed UP longer, but there were too many fuzzies
escaping.

I wonder if using cotton twill tape instead of satin ribbon would work
better.

Julie

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Re: [h-cost] costuming website

2006-11-15 Thread Zuzana Kraemerova
Yeah, I was very surprised when I saw this website for the first time, it's 
really good and it seems to deal with authenticity. Many very useful pictures, 
really - and links too. And many others... That's not very usual here...I think 
the author of this webpage used to have another site which is not working now, 
but I'm not sure...Her profile is under Tailors - Catany. 
   
  
Ailith Mackintosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The text in the pdf files are in Czech, but there are some paintings I've 
never seen before. And they have pictures of extant garments, too!

http://www.kostym.cz/

Just click on the British flag for English.


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