[h-cost] Tardis in garage
At 04:53 PM 12/11/2006, you wrote: I have one in my garage (don't ask), Now you KNOW we have to ask! I will no more tell why I have a tardis in the garage than I will tell why I have been excommunicated. So there, -C. This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question about a book
What is the year of the newer edition (mine is 1991 or 1992 I think) Katy On 12/12/06, Penny Ladnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ann, The newer addition is a lot better. In my class I just refer to certain pages in the book. My class starts in 1840 and ends at 1970. Those sections are good in the book for an overview. I just remembered that I bought the book used on Amazon not eBay. My book was used and was in perfect condition. When I was a student, I used my book for three costume history classes. So I got my money out of it. Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com www.costumelibrary.com www.costumeclassroom.com www.costumeencyclopedia.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] question about a book In a message dated 12/10/2006 7:27:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Found this book. Its rather expensive, and it doesnt say much about the book. Do any here know it? This is one of the standard history of costume texts used here in the U.S. I haven't seen the latest edition--I have the last one. It is just that, a very general survey. I'm not sure, Bjarne, whether you would find it very useful. I would say that, if you do not have any of the general survey books, you ought to have at least one. How expensive is it? Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Mode di Firenzie
Quoting Wanda Pease [EMAIL PROTECTED]: *snip* At 12:28 AM 12/9/2006, you wrote: Is there any way that Oxbow or David Brown could get hold of Moda a Firenze 1540-1580 from the Museum that publishes it? Hi Wanda, The publisher tells us that the book is out of print! So, buy one if you get the chance (whatever the cost!). Yikes! *ACK* My copy was supposed to have been here early in November and I've not seen hide nor hare of it yet. :-( Maybe there will be enough demand that they'll reprint it. *whimper* I want my book! susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1860 dress
The dress is beautiful! I love that shade of red. All the details look just right. Karen Seamstrix -- Deredere Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am so happy. Finally I made my 1860 dress so that I really like it. http://www.deredere.dds.nl/19thcent/19woman/Victorian/Victorian.html I wore it at the Anton Pieck Parade in Haarlem (the Netherlands). We had so much fun. There are some more pictures here (click on galerij in the menu on the left) http://www.de_zwarte_zwaan.dds.nl/index2.html Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Costume history text
Sylrog, I too studied with Prof. Russell, just a very few years before he passed away. I love his book and use it as an additional reference in my costume history class. I use the book chosen by my department as our primary book, but the Russell text does so much more to make the connections between what people wore and why they wore it. Studying costume history with Prof. Russell and his book did so much to spark my interest in history in general. FWIW. Laurie T. Phoenix -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sylvia Rognstad Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 8:50 PM To: Historical Costume Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Costume history text I know we've discussed this before, but not in terms of cost. I will be teaching a costume history class at a community college next semester and would like to order textbooks for the students to buy. Cost is really a factor at community colleges, so I was wondering if any of you could recommend a good reasonably priced text.Has anyone used Doug Russell's book before? He was one of my first costume profs and I loved the way he taught. I have 2 of the books he wrote and am tempted to use one of them, as I like it and think it might be less expensive than some others, but I thought I'd get your opinions. Sylrog ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Met magazine picture--Aiden/Helen
Sorry to send this to the list but the kind offer of close-up photos from the Met magazine caught my eye. Could you please e-mail me off-list so I can take you up on your kind offer to copy some of the pictures. Thanks, Cassandra __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing?
Dawn, I am so sorry for replying late. The bodice does open in the front. Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com www.costumelibrary.com www.costumeclassroom.com www.costumeencyclopedia.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Tardis in garage
Do you mean one of those mystical boxes Dr. Who had? Or something else? Sincerely, Rebecca Rautine From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Tardis in garage Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 23:48:19 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from www1.indra.com ([209.169.0.7]) by bay0-mc6-f17.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2444); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 04:55:15 -0800 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1])by www1.indra.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kBCCoHCk004602(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK);Tue, 12 Dec 2006 05:50:17 -0700 (MST)(envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])by net.indra.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kBCCmQkw054728;Tue, 12 Dec 2006 05:49:58 -0700 (MST)(envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: from mail.netspace.net.au (whirlwind.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.76])by net.indra.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kBCCmM77054664for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 05:48:24 -0700 (MST)(envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: from localhost (webmail3.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.166])by mail.netspace.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B7F130DCEfor [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 23:48:19 +1100 (EST) Received: from 220-253-122-192.VIC.netspace.net.au(220-253-122-192.VIC.netspace.net.au [220.253.122.192]) by webmail.netspace.net.au (IMP) with HTTP for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 23:48:19 +1100 X-Message-Info: txF49lGdW41hIyxNDODTLSzHjDa0oYIDg+AS5oriArs= References: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com 1044; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Historical Costume h-costume.mail.indra.com List-Unsubscribe: http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume,mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://net.indra.com/pipermail/h-costume List-Post: mailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume,mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Dec 2006 12:55:15.0491 (UTC) FILETIME=[C4D1A730:01C71DEC] At 04:53 PM 12/11/2006, you wrote: I have one in my garage (don't ask), Now you KNOW we have to ask! I will no more tell why I have a tardis in the garage than I will tell why I have been excommunicated. So there, -C. This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ View Athletes Collections with Live Search http://sportmaps.live.com/index.html?source=hmemailtaglinenov06FORM=MGAC01 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Tardis in garage 2
Boy, do I know that one -- not just props, also costumes Kate - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 7:52 AM Subject: [h-cost] Tardis in garage 2 I have one in my garage (don't ask), Now you KNOW we have to ask! Okay, okay. You know when you make a prop and store it because you know that one day it will come in useful but it never does...? -C. This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Costume coup happy dance!
Hi Congratulations with your DVD. I know excactly how you feel, i still think its the best ever made! Bjarne - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 10:31 PM Subject: [h-cost] Re: Costume coup happy dance! Dear h-costumers, As I went about my Christmas shopping with my lists from my college age children who all want cds and dvds for gifts now, I was at Borders Bookstore and (having printed a few cupons from the internet from their site) I was ablel to get 25% savings on a book and a cd. Browsing about the boxed dvd sets my eyes happend upon Elizabeth R with Glenda Jackson -- the very one I have been longing for for ages!! I saw it years ago when it first came out, but with the price of either vhs or dvd, I couldn't afford my dream.I have been doing Reniassance faires for 15 years now and this was the gold standard for costuming. I especially liked the headgear. However, , this time I had a cupon for 40% off a boxed dvd set @ $70.00!! Yes, indeed, I bought it and told my husband Thank you for my Christmas present! I just had to spill it to folks I know would understand. Donna Scarfe Fyne Hats By Felicity Period Hats for Past Ages www.fynehatsbyfelicity.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Costume history text
That's exactly what I loved about studying costume history with Professor Russell. He really brought it to life by making those connections and putting it into perspective. I've never had another teacher who did that. I want to try to do that with the class I'm going to teach, but I feel I need to study so much history first in order to get to his level. So what book is your primary book? Sylrog On Dec 11, 2006, at 10:16 PM, Laurie Taylor wrote: Sylrog, I too studied with Prof. Russell, just a very few years before he passed away. I love his book and use it as an additional reference in my costume history class. I use the book chosen by my department as our primary book, but the Russell text does so much more to make the connections between what people wore and why they wore it. Studying costume history with Prof. Russell and his book did so much to spark my interest in history in general. FWIW. Laurie T. Phoenix -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sylvia Rognstad Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 8:50 PM To: Historical Costume Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Costume history text I know we've discussed this before, but not in terms of cost. I will be teaching a costume history class at a community college next semester and would like to order textbooks for the students to buy. Cost is really a factor at community colleges, so I was wondering if any of you could recommend a good reasonably priced text.Has anyone used Doug Russell's book before? He was one of my first costume profs and I loved the way he taught. I have 2 of the books he wrote and am tempted to use one of them, as I like it and think it might be less expensive than some others, but I thought I'd get your opinions. Sylrog ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Tardis in garage 2
okay, now how about the excommunication. Laurie From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Tardis in garage 2 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 23:52:45 +1100 I have one in my garage (don't ask), Now you KNOW we have to ask! Okay, okay. You know when you make a prop and store it because you know that one day it will come in useful but it never does...? -C. This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces friends module. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmk ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: blue jean paper
If you choose 24-lb instead of 28-lb, the ream price goes down to $29 something. --Ruth Anne Baumgartner gypsy scholar and amateur costumer AND creator of a room-size braided rug made of old blue jeans -Original Message- From: Gail Scott Finke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 11, 2006 12:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Re: blue jean paper I checked it out, you can still buy it. But here's what I mean by expensive. This site: http://www.thepapermillstore.com/catalog/Blue-Jean-Bond-28-lb-Bond-paper-Rea m-p-9285.html sells the paper. I don't know what mill makes it, and the price given here is certainly not what I would pay wholeslae. But it's almost $42 for 500 sheets! Considering that you can buy office copy paper for about $4 for 500 sheets, that's an expensive ream of paper. Might be nice for all the sewers and costumers, though... Gail Finke ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: blue jean paper
Let me find a clear space in my house (evidently NOT a Tardis because although it's stuffed with stuff it refuses to expand) to lay it out, and I'll take its picture. In advance I have to confess having added a circuit or two of old nightgowns, just for color --Ruth Anne -Original Message- From: Lauren Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 12, 2006 11:48 AM To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: blue jean paper Yum. Can we see the rug? On Dec 12, 2006, at 11:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you choose 24-lb instead of 28-lb, the ream price goes down to $29 something. --Ruth Anne Baumgartner gypsy scholar and amateur costumer AND creator of a room-size braided rug made of old blue jeans -Original Message- From: Gail Scott Finke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 11, 2006 12:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Re: blue jean paper I checked it out, you can still buy it. But here's what I mean by expensive. This site: http://www.thepapermillstore.com/catalog/Blue-Jean-Bond-28-lb-Bond- paper-Rea m-p-9285.html sells the paper. I don't know what mill makes it, and the price given here is certainly not what I would pay wholeslae. But it's almost $42 for 500 sheets! Considering that you can buy office copy paper for about $4 for 500 sheets, that's an expensive ream of paper. Might be nice for all the sewers and costumers, though... Gail Finke ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Lauren M. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question about a book
Quoting Katy Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What is the year of the newer edition (mine is 1991 or 1992 I think) I think that's the 2nd edition. I just lucked onto one for $10.00 -- the 3rd ed is 2004 or 2005 (IIRC) susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Sewing-machine coup happy dance!
Gentles all, I visited the local equivalent of a US thrift Shop two Friday's back, and came away with 2 in-table-mounted Singer Stylist Model 457's for £10GB each, and a clean and well-cared-for Singer Model 66K [ circa 1906-1920] hand-cranked, table-top machine, [the one with the lovely Lotus decals] - thrown in, for free. The local Sewing Machine Engineer is servicing them for me now. Both the Stylists came with original User manuals, and a full complement of accessories - various types of feet, spare bobbins, spare needles, original tools and oil bottles. These will be kept for use by novice re-enactors who wish to join either our established Companie of the Duke's Leopards, or the SCA-group we are trying to start in our little Isle - to make their own garb and equipment, and/ or tents. In Service to the Light, and our Dream, Matthew, in old Jersey. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Oh boy oh boy
My holiday exchange gift just arrived. I haven't yet opened it, but I know roughly what it is -- only one thing in the world makes *that* sound when you shake it. Friday is the first night of Chanukah, which is my family's holiday, so I'm going to open it then, so there. I want it right now! --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Costume history text
Quoting Kelly Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can you send out the titles and ISBN numbers for these books? I teach as well, and could really use a good text, sounds like this would be very much in keeping with how I teach costume history...the what/why sort of thing. How about this . http://www.amazon.com/Costume-History-Style-Douglas-Russell/dp/0131812149 http://www.amazon.com/Survey-Historic-Costume-History-Western/dp/1563673452 susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Props (was Re: Tardis in garage 2
On Dec 12, 2006, at 5:27 AM, Kate Pinner wrote: Boy, do I know that one -- not just props, also costumes So pimp-time... Costume-Con 26 (San Jose, April 2008, http://www.cc26.info/ has approached Chris and Christy Bertani (of the Bay Area English Regency Society's Regency Science Fair) to run our Mad Science Fair, a mad-science prop-building competition. Nothing is firm on this yet. However... This could be an opportunity to build props based on discredited period scientific theories such as alchemy, so it's not just a science fiction fantasy competition. If anyone is interested, I'll post more information as things solidify. -- andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen http://www.irlm.org/ - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Anybody who takes this seriously deserves to -- Donna Barr ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1860 dress
- Original Message - From: Deredere Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 11:33 PM Subject: [h-cost] 1860 dress Hi, I am so happy. Finally I made my 1860 dress so that I really like it. http://www.deredere.dds.nl/19thcent/19woman/Victorian/Victorian.html Hi Deredere, Very nice dress. At first sight i emediately thoaght about a book i had as a boy, a swedish book called something like Antie brown, antie green and antie purple. Its a book about some orphan children living at tree ladies house. They are all dressed in victorian clothing. Tante brun tante grøn og tante lilla. Thanks for posting for us! Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: striped skirt
On Sun, 10 Dec 2006, Ann Catelli wrote: It's not a skirt, and it's plaid (rather a 'window-pane' check), not striped, but do remember, please, the cut-off cuff found in London, as published in the MOL Textiles Clothing book. Tiny stripes (2 threads?) of dark intersecting stripes of medium light threads, both verticallly and horizontally. One way had more threads than the other. Maybe 1300-1450--it's dated more precisely in the book. (Yes, it's from memory, but I'm being too lazy to look it up properly.) I'm home sick today so I've got nothing to do BUT look up stuff. ;-) Catalog No. 64, which is the partial sleeve that's on the back cover, is checks of madder-dyed and undyed wool, with two darker threads outlining the checks. There are 8 warp threads to 6 weft threads per check. It's dated 14Q2. There are other patterns on both twills and tabbies, both stripes and checks. Some of the stripes are bands of silk weft on wool warp. I'm guessing that stripes or plaids were just not what artists were looking to paint. At least this group won't assume that any person in plaids/crossed stripes/etc. is Scottish. :) Ann in CT Stripes +/or plaids probably have specific meanings in painterly contexts, ones that we no longer know. *sighs* Pixel ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] re: gift exchange
I got 2 lovely cards from h-costumers today. One is an IOU of the most delicious Stuart embroidered sampler. The other is a charming thank-you card. It's nice to know the gift was received enjoyed. Happy holiday everything, --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Gack! Is she pregnant or is she not? Need your opinions!
In a message dated 13/12/2006 00:13:53 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.saragrace.us/images/GoldenAge/PAM_PICS/Overall.JPG Doesn't this seem much further out in the front than everywhere else? Do you think she is pregnant? Seems a little low for pregnancy. It's hard to say. The shaping is incredibly common in other portraits of the same time. Hip padding was around at the time - so it could be that, continued over the belly. But then again, it is perfectly possible that it's the painting just isn't very well drawn. It's also quite likely that she would be pregnant (thank the lord I'm alive now!!). It's also possible that she's trying to look as though she were pregnant - it's been fashionable more than once or twice. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question about a book
Quoting Penny Ladnier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: *snip* Susan, what are you doing at Uof T? Finishing up a PhD in Botany. susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question about a book
It is a shame that Russell is out of print, but it has its flaws, too. IMHO, there is no one really good history of costume text out there. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Oh boy oh boy
Which that sound is it making? And Happy Chanukah, by the wayWhen my gift arrives, I'm going to save it until the 21st (Yule). --Sue - Original Message - From: Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historic Costume List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 12:28 PM Subject: [h-cost] Oh boy oh boy My holiday exchange gift just arrived. I haven't yet opened it, but I know roughly what it is -- only one thing in the world makes *that* sound when you shake it. Friday is the first night of Chanukah, which is my family's holiday, so I'm going to open it then, so there. I want it right now! --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Shoulder-strap-less Tudors?
- Original Message - From: Elizabeth Walpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://photos.ladybrooke.com/sca/gowns/velvetgown/gettingstarted.htm is a strapless Tudor gown, it is not an uncommon theory on Tudor construction her finished product does look good except for the bumroll under the skirt which just doesn't fit with the smooth Tudor look. Thank you! That's the site I was thinking of. I'm planning to make this: http://www.nationalgalleries.org/collections/artist_search.php?objectId=4764 and am flirting with the idea of a strapless design. I have plenty of evidence of gowns from this era with shoulder straps, with a much lower incidence of gowns that look strapless, but this one definitely falls into the strapless camp. If only all my lovely back-view shots weren't of the strapped version (Or, maybe the strapless versions look strapped from behind! Hrm.) -E Ooo! lots of pleating! House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Gack! Is she pregnant or is she not? Need your opinions!
Okay, maybe I am not understanding. Yes, the bumper pads all the way around don't seem unusual. i.e. this is a French Farthingale - no rigid frame, but like the infamous characature of the women about masks and farthingales. Maybe I am not understanding the comments, (not just Nicole's) but this one appears like she is protruding extremely in the front but not at the hipswho knows what's going on with her backside.. Am I missing what you are saying? Sg From: N Kipar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gack! Is she pregnant or is she not? Need your opinions! Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 23:19:08 + (GMT) I don't think she is, unless every other woman of this period who wears her fashionable clothes in the same way, is pregnant on portraits. I have many examples amongst my files that look just like this one. Nicole - Original Message From: Saragrace Knauf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: h-costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 12 December, 2006 11:00:47 PM Subject: [h-cost] Gack! Is she pregnant or is she not? Need your opinions! I just sat down to start drafting the underpinnings for this gown http://www.saragrace.us/images/GoldenAge/PAM_PICS/Overall.JPGhttp://www.saragrace.us/images/GoldenAge/PAM_PICS/Overall.JPG and all of a sudden realized the gown does not seem symmetrically round. Doesn't this seem much further out in the front than everywhere else? Do you think she is pregnant? Seems a little low for pregnancy. Thanks! Sg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question about a book
Susan, Kudos for you! WOW! What work! I am trying to remember if you are the person I am thinking of... did you used to work at a small museum in North Carolina? I remember a lady on the list that used to be there and told me about the wagon train trails. I am doing some research into the textile mills in SC in the next county. This person was just across the state line. Was that you? Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com www.costumelibrary.com www.costumeclassroom.com www.costumeencyclopedia.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question about a book
Monica, What is on the CD? My book didn't come with the CD. I guess the previous owner kept it. Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com www.costumelibrary.com www.costumeclassroom.com www.costumeencyclopedia.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question about a book
Susan, Oh, well. I remember that you have been on the list a long time. Good luck with your job hunting. Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com www.costumelibrary.com www.costumeclassroom.com www.costumeencyclopedia.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question about a book
Quoting Penny Ladnier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Susan, Oh, well. I remember that you have been on the list a long time. Good luck with your job hunting. Thanks! Susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] construction ?
Anyone have an idea as to how the blue on the plastron is constructed? Is it a section on material that has a wee bit of gather in the center and clipped on the sides? http://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/cjackson/l/p-liotard2.htm De ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] construction ?
Quoting otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Anyone have an idea as to how the blue on the plastron is constructed? Is it a section on material that has a wee bit of gather in the center and clipped on the sides? http://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/cjackson/l/p-liotard2.htm You know it's *really* late when you look at that painting and the *first* thought that goes through your brain is, Oh, look. She's wearing a Mickey Mouse Watch . *blink* going to bed now. susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] construction ?
It looks similar to the lacing of a Venetian costume of earlier period. The ribbon would have been silk during this period. SO... I think it looks like a wide silk ribbon has been woven through some kind of small loop, then folded back over it to the other side. The width of the ribbon seems to be wide at the turn then narrow where it comes to the side, then wider back across. Just a guess but it looks like that to me. Very similar to how silk roses are folded. Sincerely, Rebecca Rautine From: Susan B. Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] construction ? Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 23:34:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from www1.indra.com ([209.169.0.7]) by bay0-mc6-f17.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2444); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:35:19 -0800 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1])by www1.indra.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kBD4YNvP074252(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK);Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:34:24 -0700 (MST)(envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])by net.indra.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kBD4YCSM068735;Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:34:15 -0700 (MST)(envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: from audi.websitewelcome.com (88.d2.1343.static.theplanet.com[67.19.210.136])by net.indra.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kBD4Y7pC068664(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT)for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:34:11 -0700 (MST)(envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: from cpanel by audi.websitewelcome.com with local (Exim 4.52)id 1GuLon-0001EK-U7; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:34:09 -0600 Received: from 65.13.105.239 ([65.13.105.239]) by www.goldsword.com (HordeMIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 23:34:09 -0500 X-Message-Info: txF49lGdW43OLNgW/qhd6pCQAbk/e6+iWWSOdmmmYwM= References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse,please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - audi.websitewelcome.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - indra.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32001 32003] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - goldsword.com X-Source: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php/usr/local/cpanel/base/horde/imp/compose.php X-Source-Dir: :/base/horde/imp X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com 1044; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Historical Costume h-costume.mail.indra.com List-Unsubscribe: http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume,mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://net.indra.com/pipermail/h-costume List-Post: mailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume,mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2006 04:35:19.0980 (UTC) FILETIME=[1883A6C0:01C71E70] Quoting otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Anyone have an idea as to how the blue on the plastron is constructed? Is it a section on material that has a wee bit of gather in the center and clipped on the sides? http://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/cjackson/l/p-liotard2.htm You know it's *really* late when you look at that painting and the *first* thought that goes through your brain is, Oh, look. She's wearing a Mickey Mouse Watch . *blink* going to bed now. susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ MSN Shopping has everything on your holiday list. Get expert picks by style, age, and price. Try it! http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctId=8000,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=200601tcode=wlmtagline ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 0f belts and hanging sleeves
Cin wrote: Another small query, what is the visible red one can see throught the space beneath the left arm? This was originally why I thought I was seeing this Cape. My guess, and I'm no expert, the red with all the pleating is the back of the skirt seen in shadow, while the white/gray triangle above the red is the interior of an open robe. When I drape my open robe over the drum I get a bit of squnch back there that looks like pooling water instead of rayed pleats. Admittedly, I'm looking at a 6x9 color photo, not the real portrait. I disagree, I don't think there is an open robe over the gown. What I see in QEWU and the online images is a white gown with an open red overgown. (Pardon me if my terms are wrong). If you look at the bottom of the hanging sleeve on the viewer's left you can see the red which is also visible under the left arm, this is what's on the back of the sleeve. The same red is visible on the right of the bodice, just behind the pearls, and it's visible as a red overskirt in the space under her arms. Or maybe I should say she is wearing a red gown with an elaborate white stomacher and petticoat which match her sleeves and the lining of her oversleeves. If you look at the copies of the Ditchley portrait which are on the following pages (44-47) in QEWU you can see it even better. The grey background under her arms looks like the same grey that is used above her head, but then my image sources may not be color-tuned correctly. The red is very clear to me though. Sorry, I can't help you with the set of the sleeves. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Gack! Is she pregnant or is she not? Need your opinions!
Do you think she is pregnant? Seems a little low for pregnancy. I'd say she wasn't. Most of the images of these dresses show women in the same shape as this one, and I don't believe every one of them was painted during pregnancy. BTW, I made one of these once. In mine I looked pretty much like she does in hers, and I wasn't the least bit pregnant at the time. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
