[h-cost] huge fashion ingravings database
I thoaght, as there are manny here who loves regency to send this link. It has hundreds of fashion prints starting end of 18th century and onwards, year by year. Go to this page: http://www.bibliothequedesartsdecoratifs.com/consultation2/consultation.html click on recherche simple. Type in mode in the place at the left, and put a mark under collection macinet, then click recherche. Now comes a full list of books to the left, mark one of them and click under where it says voir les notices Then the title of the book appears to the right, click the link in the bottom. Then small images appear to the right, these are clickable to huge resolution images wich pops up in new windows. They are all downloadable, and gues who is a very happy man? I know its a little difficult to find them, but if you do what i said here, it should work for you! There is enough for days i tell you Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: costumes in Muppets Christmas Carol
Hi I was wondering if there have been any papers or research done on a favorite, Muppet's Christmas Carol? ONe of my students wrote a paper about how accuarte or in accurate the clothing in the film is. I wanted something to compare with her anaysis IF there are any serious papers or articles out there. Thanks Kitty Macey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: costumes in Muppets Christmas Carol
What class are you teaching? Theater costume, history of costume? Seems to me, you can rate how good the costumes are by comparing to known English dress of the period, and thus determine how good your student's analysis is. However, as has happened with many things, I think the whole Dickens thing, and especially A Christmas Carol, has become stylized and there are probably elements that have come to be expected, whether they were originally authentic or not. I imagine the 1938 film has heavily influenced all subsequent productions, except, of course, for those deliberately set in other time periods. And also, of course, there is the extra wrinkle of designing costumes for puppets! Ann Wass **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] huge fashion ingravings database
Wow! Thanks, it's a wonderful resource. I'll be busy for a while. Thanks for telling us how to use the site too. Katy On Dec 13, 2007 5:57 AM, Leif og Bjarne Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thoaght, as there are manny here who loves regency to send this link. It has hundreds of fashion prints starting end of 18th century and onwards, year by year. Go to this page: http://www.bibliothequedesartsdecoratifs.com/consultation2/consultation.html click on recherche simple. Type in mode in the place at the left, and put a mark under collection macinet, then click recherche. Now comes a full list of books to the left, mark one of them and click under where it says voir les notices Then the title of the book appears to the right, click the link in the bottom. Then small images appear to the right, these are clickable to huge resolution images wich pops up in new windows. They are all downloadable, and gues who is a very happy man? I know its a little difficult to find them, but if you do what i said here, it should work for you! There is enough for days i tell you Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Speaking of Dress forms...
My plan for now is to get a Uniquely You dress form at my hoped for future size (or smaller), a different sized cover to fit the current me, and pad it up to fit. Besides being pinnable, the other bonus is that it is squishable, so I can hopefully corset it, too... with a little added padding in the breast area, as I understand that squishes in, not up. I have not found the Uniquely You dress forms to be squishable enough to put a corset on it - the cover really compacts the foam down (at least mine does...) to the point that there is no squish left for the corset to manipulate. My current plan is to get a second cover and shape it to me while I'm wearing a corset, and hopefully that will result in a corseted form for draping/fitting on. Best of luck! -sunny NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are prohibited from sharing, copying, or otherwise using or disclosing its contents. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments without reading, forwarding or saving them. Thank you. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Speaking of Dress forms...
Hee, this post I made to another list a few months back is still pretty much word-for-word applicable: -- I have a Uniquely You dress form, and overall I'm happy with it. But... I had to do a lot of work on it to get it to that point. Though I ordered the size that I should have according to their info, it was way too large; I really wish I'd ordered the next small size. Far more frustrating, though, was the fact that the bust was several inches too low. In order to fix this, I peeled the two halves apart, hollowed out the upper chest, then glued them back together with the upper chest compacted so that the bust was raised. Also, I kicked the thing several times, which helped. Then of course the bottom front was about 4 inches shorter than the bottom back, so I had to do yet more carving. Then I took a long look at the included cover, sneered, duct taped myself, made a pattern from the duct tape, and sewed my own cover. Since the form was still too big, I wound up having to lace the cover shut, as zippers were too paltry a closure. It's quite a good match, now, except that the lacing is a bit bulkier than I'd like, and the waist is an inch too high. Also, it's no longer particularly corsetable, since I had to compress it so much to get it into a cover that fit me; it's already nearly as squished as it'll get. (By the same token, I can't use it to mark the hem on self-supporting gowns, as the front line would be off.) It's still useful for a lot of clothing, though, and I'm reasonably happy with it, but I would not do it again for at least another 5 years or so, and if I ever do, I'll do many things differently. For starters, I'd get one a size or two smaller--far easier to pad it up than vice versa. Which explains why what I'd get if I were in the market and had ~$400+ to blow is one of these: http://www.fabulousfit.com/ which comes with a system of pads that adjust it to your size. Though they use a knit cover for it, you could just as easily make a custom-fitted cover of the same type you'd use on the Uniquely You. Make the cover easy to remove/switch out, and you can adjust the form to various shapes: corseted, self-supported, modern, etc, and maybe even male. Oooo, and though I'm way to cheap to ever spring for one, I'd love to have one of the ones with bendable arms... -E House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Speaking of Dress forms...
I have the Uniquely You form also and my plan is to saw off the perky bosom and add one of my bras stuffed to match me. I think that will squish just fine under a corset. Cactus --- On Wed, 12/12/07, Kimiko Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kimiko Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Speaking of Dress forms... To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, December 12, 2007, 5:28 PM The only thing I could suggest is to get a smaller dress form, something close to what you ideally want to drop your size to, and then add padding to it to make it fit your current size. I've tried duct tape doubles, brown paper tape versions, and the biggest issue I have is that my body shape is in constant flux. I even bought a store brand dritz or something that is now too big as I have lost some weight. And the body shape was never right anyways, as my torso is long, and my lower half's largeness is in a different area than where it is on the dress form. My plan for now is to get a Uniquely You dress form at my hoped for future size (or smaller), a different sized cover to fit the current me, and pad it up to fit. Besides being pinnable, the other bonus is that it is squishable, so I can hopefully corset it, too... with a little added padding in the breast area, as I understand that squishes in, not up. hth, Kimiko --- Peggy - Krazy Kat Fiberhaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip So, what I want to know is: What dress form would you recommend for a for a gal like me? Thanks, -- *Peggy Viney * Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Sally Queen Associates--annual costume calendar?
Ack. I've been looking for the past couple of months. If anyone finds a good costume calendar, PLEASE share. I don't think anyone has done anything like Sally's calendars. LynnD On 12/7/07, Catherine Olanich Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 07 December 2007, A. Thurman wrote: AFAIK, this is the last year the company is doing calendars. Her latest effort is largely the USA Costume Collections guide. Dang. I was afraid it was something like that. Thanks for the information. Anyone know of a calendar with costume-related photos or art that's being sold for 2008? -- Cathy Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.-- Mark Twain ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Somewhat OT (?)
A while back there was a thread centered on re-fashioning old clothes, which I remember the elders doing when I was young, and I have dabbled in a bit from time to time. This time I have inadvertently wandered into serious re-making territory. It is a long story involving lack of finances and my 15 year old daughter's incredible pickiness in terms of fit and fashion, but the bottom line is that I have agreed to use the only acceptable-to-her second hand coat (camel wool) as a pattern and use another second hand wool coat (cranberry wool) for the fabric. We have taken apart both coats and I realized that the pockets that have been attached to the cranberry coat have been there for about 20-30 years, and have left deep impressions in the underlying wool. There is no way to disguise them and the use of the fabric demands that they will be just about center front or center back. If I can't find a way to remove these impressions, it will be the fatal flaw in the plan. There is no color discrepancy or wear marks so the flattened fabric is the only obstacle to using this as the fabric. One thing I've learned on this list is that there is a vast amount of experience of ALL sorts among you. Can anyone suggest a cure for the pocket depression? Thanks in advance, Laurie _ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_122007___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] huge fashion ingravings database
Bjarne, You are either WONDERFUL or EVIL! Either way, thank you so much for that link and the directions for navigating the web-site. The images are incredible! Thank heavens the semester is about over...I wasn't planning on spending the whole holiday break on a French fashion history web-site, but I just might! Happy Holidays everyone! Laurie T. Phoenix, Arizona -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leif og Bjarne Drews Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:58 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] huge fashion ingravings database I thoaght, as there are manny here who loves regency to send this link. It has hundreds of fashion prints starting end of 18th century and onwards, year by year. Go to this page: http://www.bibliothequedesartsdecoratifs.com/consultation2/consultation.html click on recherche simple. Type in mode in the place at the left, and put a mark under collection macinet, then click recherche. Now comes a full list of books to the left, mark one of them and click under where it says voir les notices Then the title of the book appears to the right, click the link in the bottom. Then small images appear to the right, these are clickable to huge resolution images wich pops up in new windows. They are all downloadable, and gues who is a very happy man? I know its a little difficult to find them, but if you do what i said here, it should work for you! There is enough for days i tell you Bjarne ___ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1183 - Release Date: 12/13/2007 9:15 AM ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] huge fashion ingravings database
I vote for WONDERFUL! Patty -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of costumeraz Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:20 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: RE: [h-cost] huge fashion ingravings database Bjarne, You are either WONDERFUL or EVIL! Either way, thank you so much for that link and the directions for navigating the web-site. The images are incredible! Thank heavens the semester is about over...I wasn't planning on spending the whole holiday break on a French fashion history web-site, but I just might! Happy Holidays everyone! Laurie T. Phoenix, Arizona -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leif og Bjarne Drews Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:58 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] huge fashion ingravings database I thoaght, as there are manny here who loves regency to send this link. It has hundreds of fashion prints starting end of 18th century and onwards, year by year. Go to this page: http://www.bibliothequedesartsdecoratifs.com/consultation2/consultation. html click on recherche simple. Type in mode in the place at the left, and put a mark under collection macinet, then click recherche. Now comes a full list of books to the left, mark one of them and click under where it says voir les notices Then the title of the book appears to the right, click the link in the bottom. Then small images appear to the right, these are clickable to huge resolution images wich pops up in new windows. They are all downloadable, and gues who is a very happy man? I know its a little difficult to find them, but if you do what i said here, it should work for you! There is enough for days i tell you Bjarne ___ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1183 - Release Date: 12/13/2007 9:15 AM ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Somewhat OT (?)
Can you get matching or contrasting soutache braid and cover it with a design? Althea On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:14:33 -0800, zelda crusher wrote One thing I've learned on this list is that there is a vast amount of experience of ALL sorts among you. Can anyone suggest a cure for the pocket depression? Thanks in advance, Laurie *** Directory of Diverse Knowledge http://www.alfalfapress.com/sca Althea Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Somewhat OT (?)
Not really, the impressions on the cut piece will end up being approximately an L shape between the bust line and the waist on both sides. I can't think of any way to cover them up or disguise them that wouldn't look, well, avant garde, at best. She's 15, avant garde is just plain weird to her,lol. And I am so not going through all this to have her not wear the thing! But I thank you for your response, Althea. Laurie From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [h-cost] Somewhat OT (?) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:29:42 -0500 CC: Can you get matching or contrasting soutache braid and cover it with a design? Althea On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:14:33 -0800, zelda crusher wrote One thing I've learned on this list is that there is a vast amount of experience of ALL sorts among you. Can anyone suggest a cure for the pocket depression? Thanks in advance, Laurie *** Directory of Diverse Knowledge http://www.alfalfapress.com/sca Althea Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_122007___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Somewhat OT (?)
Have you tried water and/or steam? Warm water without agitation or temperature shock will not felt it. Let it soak so it's thoroughly wet. Or try A LOT of steam and some agitation of sorts, fold it, pull on it, bang it on a table, anything which might dislodge fibers from their compressed state. Beth On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, zelda crusher wrote: A while back there was a thread centered on re-fashioning old clothes, which I remember the elders doing when I was young, and I have dabbled in a bit from time to time. This time I have inadvertently wandered into serious re-making territory. It is a long story involving lack of finances and my 15 year old daughter's incredible pickiness in terms of fit and fashion, but the bottom line is that I have agreed to use the only acceptable-to-her second hand coat (camel wool) as a pattern and use another second hand wool coat (cranberry wool) for the fabric. We have taken apart both coats and I realized that the pockets that have been attached to the cranberry coat have been there for about 20-30 years, and have left deep impressions in the underlying wool. There is no way to disguise them and the use of the fabric demands that they will be just about center front or center back. If I can't find a way to remove these impressions, it will be the fatal flaw in the plan. There is no color discrepancy or wear marks so the flattened fabric is the only obstacle to using this as the fabric. One thing I've learned on this list is that there is a vast amount of experience of ALL sorts among you. Can anyone suggest a cure for the pocket depression? Thanks in advance, Laurie _ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_122007___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Somewhat OT (?)
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chamberlain Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:15 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: RE: [h-cost] Somewhat OT (?) Have you tried water and/or steam? Warm water without agitation or temperature shock will not felt it. Let it soak so it's thoroughly wet. Or try A LOT of steam and some agitation of sorts, fold it, pull on it, bang it on a table, anything which might dislodge fibers from their compressed state. Beth Would suction (e.g. vacuum cleaner) work in combination with this? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] removing blod stains
I remember i saw a tv programme from the workshop at Chanel where all the work of the couturieres was shown. It happened from time to time, that some of the ladies, stuck their fingers and bleeded on the haute couture creations, but then they had a lady they send for who emediately came and removed the blod stains. What do you think they used? I have often wondered about this, and also because sometimes it happens for myself two. What do you do? Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] removing blod stains
I don't know about more expensive fabrics but I've used regular shampoo to remove blood from clothing. There was a lot of blood - I was at the scene of a car accident involving a small child that these men just pulled from the vehicle and set down at the side of the highway. She had a cut on her head, which bleed a lot. I held her, putting pressure on the cut until the emergency people arrived. I ended up being soaked through because of rain and blood. Still a handwashing with shampoo removed the blood from one of my favorite sweaters. I haven't had to test it on needlework or something I was sewing, so I don't know about smaller patches alex On Dec 13, 2007 1:29 PM, Leif og Bjarne Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember i saw a tv programme from the workshop at Chanel where all the work of the couturieres was shown. It happened from time to time, that some of the ladies, stuck their fingers and bleeded on the haute couture creations, but then they had a lady they send for who emediately came and removed the blod stains. What do you think they used? I have often wondered about this, and also because sometimes it happens for myself two. What do you do? Bjarne ___ -- I'm buying this fabric/book now in case I have an emergency...you know, having to suddenly make presents for everyone, sickness,flood, injury, mosquito infestations, not enough silk in the house, it's Friday... ;) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] removing blod stains
Depends on the fabric, I think. I work mostly (embroidery-wise) on linen and cotton. If I see the blood spot immediately, I wet it with (eew) saliva - your own will dissolve away your own blood. (My grandmother taught me that...G) For stains a little older, I CAREFULLY wet with hydrogen peroxide, and rinse, and repeat until stain is gone. Of course you want to know ahead of time that this won't fade/harm your fabric- I'm an obsessive tester, so I try all this stuff out on spare fabric, flosses, etc, before I start a project. Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO wildernesse, the Outlands http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leif og Bjarne Drews Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:30 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] removing blod stains I remember i saw a tv programme from the workshop at Chanel where all the work of the couturieres was shown. It happened from time to time, that some of the ladies, stuck their fingers and bleeded on the haute couture creations, but then they had a lady they send for who emediately came and removed the blod stains. What do you think they used? I have often wondered about this, and also because sometimes it happens for myself two. What do you do? Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] removing blod stains
Papain meat tenderizer also works, but it might also dissolve protein fabrics--so don't use on silk or wool. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Frank A Thallas Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Historical Costume' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 2:49 pm Subject: RE: [h-cost] removing blod stains Depends on the fabric, I think. I work mostly (embroidery-wise) on linen and cotton. If I see the blood spot immediately, I wet it with (eew) saliva - your own will dissolve away your own blood. (My grandmother taught me that...G) For stains a little older, I CAREFULLY wet with hydrogen peroxide, and rinse, and repeat until stain is gone. Of course you want to know ahead of time that this won't fade/harm your fabric- I'm an obsessive tester, so I try all this stuff out on spare fabric, flosses, etc, before I start a project. Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO wildernesse, the Outlands http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leif og Bjarne Drews Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:30 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] removing blod stains I remember i saw a tv programme from the workshop at Chanel where all the work of the couturieres was shown. It happened from time to time, that some of the ladies, stuck their fingers and bleeded on the haute couture creations, but then they had a lady they send for who emediately came and removed the blod stains. What do you think they used? I have often wondered about this, and also because sometimes it happens for myself two. What do you do? Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Thank you, Bjarne
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Re: [h-cost] huge fashion engravings database
Yeah, i should have ben embroidering a lot these last coupple of days, but i found i better had to download all the ones i could get, you never know how long they will be on the internet, it must be quite expensive to have all that lying on the net with such high resolution engravings. And the way they have glued the prints with several on each page, makes a lot of work to do in the drawing program when you want to seperate these to single ones. I prefer this, because its very difficult to single each one out, when they are pasted manny together. So you are right, evil time consuming, but wonderfull drawings... Bjarne - Original Message - From: costumeraz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Historical Costume' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 6:20 PM Subject: RE: [h-cost] huge fashion ingravings database Bjarne, You are either WONDERFUL or EVIL! Either way, thank you so much for that link and the directions for navigating the web-site. The images are incredible! Thank heavens the semester is about over...I wasn't planning on spending the whole holiday break on a French fashion history web-site, but I just might! Happy Holidays everyone! Laurie T. Phoenix, Arizona -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leif og Bjarne Drews Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:58 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] huge fashion ingravings database I thoaght, as there are manny here who loves regency to send this link. It has hundreds of fashion prints starting end of 18th century and onwards, year by year. Go to this page: http://www.bibliothequedesartsdecoratifs.com/consultation2/consultation.html click on recherche simple. Type in mode in the place at the left, and put a mark under collection macinet, then click recherche. Now comes a full list of books to the left, mark one of them and click under where it says voir les notices Then the title of the book appears to the right, click the link in the bottom. Then small images appear to the right, these are clickable to huge resolution images wich pops up in new windows. They are all downloadable, and gues who is a very happy man? I know its a little difficult to find them, but if you do what i said here, it should work for you! There is enough for days i tell you Bjarne ___ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1183 - Release Date: 12/13/2007 9:15 AM ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] removing blod stains
Hi, I remember having heard that blood stains can be removed with milk, but I don´t know if it works. And it´s probably not done at Chanel, because it might leave marks on silks and such. Like Liadain said, saliva works well for fresh spots. Some dressmakers use a long thread of basting cotton, chew it a bit and use the wet cotton to wipe away the spot. Hanna At 20:49 13.12.2007, you wrote: Depends on the fabric, I think. I work mostly (embroidery-wise) on linen and cotton. If I see the blood spot immediately, I wet it with (eew) saliva - your own will dissolve away your own blood. (My grandmother taught me that...G) For stains a little older, I CAREFULLY wet with hydrogen peroxide, and rinse, and repeat until stain is gone. Of course you want to know ahead of time that this won't fade/harm your fabric- I'm an obsessive tester, so I try all this stuff out on spare fabric, flosses, etc, before I start a project. Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO wildernesse, the Outlands http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leif og Bjarne Drews Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:30 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] removing blod stains I remember i saw a tv programme from the workshop at Chanel where all the work of the couturieres was shown. It happened from time to time, that some of the ladies, stuck their fingers and bleeded on the haute couture creations, but then they had a lady they send for who emediately came and removed the blod stains. What do you think they used? I have often wondered about this, and also because sometimes it happens for myself two. What do you do? Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] removing blod stains
Heh. This sounds a lot nicer than just spittin' on it...G Liadain Hillbilly girl THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO wildernesse, the Outlands http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hanna Zickermann Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:05 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: RE: [h-cost] removing blod stains Hi, snippage Some dressmakers use a long thread of basting cotton, chew it a bit and use the wet cotton to wipe away the spot. Hanna At 20:49 13.12.2007, you wrote: Depends on the fabric, I think. I work mostly (embroidery-wise) on linen and cotton. If I see the blood spot immediately, I wet it with (eew) saliva - your own will dissolve away your own blood. (My grandmother taught ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Somewhat OT (?)
Hi Laurie, Have you tried simply steaming the wool, and letting it sit to dry, steam, dry... maybe even using a toothbrush or other brush to gently bring up the nap a bit? Steam on wool has done wonders for me. Kimiko --- zelda crusher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no color discrepancy or wear marks so the flattened fabric is the only obstacle to using this as the fabric. One thing I've learned on this list is that there is a vast amount of experience of ALL sorts among you. Can anyone suggest a cure for the pocket depression? Thanks in advance, Laurie Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Blood off fabric
If the blood is fresh and scant, spit sometimes works on cotton and linen. However it can still stain. I'm sure we've all experienced this doing embrodiery or handsewing a seam. Some Victorian and Edwardian books on household remedies do include natural cleaning remedies. I've heard of vinager and baking soda having some effect, but it might harm even colorfast fabrics. Cindy Abel ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Somewhat OT (?)
Oh dear, yes I should have said what I've tried already. I used the steam setting on the iron (which issues *clouds* of steam) and then brushed it with the cat brush, lol. I think I will try the steam, vacuum and toothbrush team, followed by the wet it, whack it on the table and vacuum team. I'll let you know Thanks, Laurie Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:11:55 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [h-cost] Somewhat OT (?) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Hi Laurie, Have you tried simply steaming the wool, and letting it sit to dry, steam, dry... maybe even using a toothbrush or other brush to gently bring up the nap a bit? Steam on wool has done wonders for me. Kimiko _ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_122007___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] removing blod stains
I am a nurse and do get spattered with blood on occasion. Hydrogen peroxide works very well in most cases and has saved many of my shirts. It works well for both fresh and old blood. It froths up when first applied and the area will become warm. I rinse well with cold water then launder as usual. On cotton and cotton/poly I have had no problems with fabric damage. I have never tried it on silk, linen or wool. -Kathy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:29:46 +0100 CC: Subject: [h-cost] removing blod stains I remember i saw a tv programme from the workshop at Chanel where all the work of the couturieres was shown. It happened from time to time, that some of the ladies, stuck their fingers and bleeded on the haute couture creations, but then they had a lady they send for who emediately came and removed the blod stains. What do you think they used? I have often wondered about this, and also because sometimes it happens for myself two. What do you do? Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] huge fashion engravings database
On Dec 13, 2007, at 2:02 PM, Leif og Bjarne Drews wrote: Type in mode in the place at the left, I got this far in the directions but what do I type? When I type mode, I get a page with no listings. What am I doing wrong? I'd like to see the embroidery, too. Thanks. Susan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] huge fashion engravings database THANK YOU
To Bjarne, from Dawn: I've spent WAY too much time this morning enjoying that site. What a great Christmas gift! You're able to post on h-cost aren't you? Please tell Bjarne thank you from me. I can only read the posts. Every time I've tried to post myself it's an exercise in frustration. It's always returned to me. It's got something to do with my computer settings and I've tried and tried and tried to no avail. I also thank you Bjarne for all the eye candy. Charlene Roberts ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: opinions of Past patterns #001 for Regency
Hi Elizabeth I have this pattern but haven't used it yet but Linda has made the corded stays if you want to ask her. I like the short stays by Sense Sensibility (now selling in Australia from Simplicity). Cheers, Aylwen On 13/12/07 7:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I've been inspired by fabric (an embroidered organza) to start thinking about Regency, my biggest problem has been underwear but as Past Patterns has a 20% off sale I thought that I might use Past pattern #001 http://www.pastpatterns.com/001.html (as it's significantly cheaper than the only other commercial pattern I know of for a Regency era full length corset, Mantua maker) c. 1810 outfit, even though it is actually marked 1820s-40s the pictures didn't seem too far off the Regency style corset, has anybody used or looked at this pattern in detail and can you give me an idea of how well it would work for a decade earlier or whether I should try making adjustments or maybe forgetting the whole thing. That was the pattern I started from for my Regency corset, because it does seem very similar to the c1810 corsets to me too :-) Just as a warning, a friend of mine and I _struggled_ to do the fitting for the corset, 'cause we'd chosen to do the one with no side seam (only bust and hip gores) which eventually worked but was the most difficult fitting project that either of us had ever done. Now that the construction is all done, it's a wonderful corset! Fun to wear :-) -sunny NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are prohibited from sharing, copying, or otherwise using or disclosing its contents. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments without reading, forwarding or saving them. Thank you. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Somewhat OT (?)
The only thing that comes to mind is the old trick of placing ice cubes along the line of the depression, waiting for it to completely melt, blot up the residue and then vacuum after it dries. This works on carpet (after you've moved the furniture, don'tcha know) but that may be because a lot of carpet these days is made from unnatural fibres. Note that there is no heat involved in this method -- I don't know if it would work on wool. Good luck! Suzanne On Dec 13, 2007, at 5:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kimiko Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: December 13, 2007 5:11:55 PM CST To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [h-cost] Somewhat OT (?) Reply-To: Historical Costume h-costume@mail.indra.com Hi Laurie, Have you tried simply steaming the wool, and letting it sit to dry, steam, dry... maybe even using a toothbrush or other brush to gently bring up the nap a bit? Steam on wool has done wonders for me. Kimiko --- zelda crusher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no color discrepancy or wear marks so the flattened fabric is the only obstacle to using this as the fabric. One thing I've learned on this list is that there is a vast amount of experience of ALL sorts among you. Can anyone suggest a cure for the pocket depression? Thanks in advance, Laurie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Blood off fabric
My husband bled all over a pair of new light beige pants. He did not tell me until after the blood was totally dried. I tried Shout, soaking them, etc. Finally, washing them several times with Oxyclean did the trick. The stain is almost gone and it was originally so bad I was going to toss the pants in the garbage. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Abel, Cynthia Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 6:27 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] Blood off fabric If the blood is fresh and scant, spit sometimes works on cotton and linen. However it can still stain. I'm sure we've all experienced this doing embrodiery or handsewing a seam. Some Victorian and Edwardian books on household remedies do include natural cleaning remedies. I've heard of vinager and baking soda having some effect, but it might harm even colorfast fabrics. Cindy Abel ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] huge fashion ingravings database
Bjarne, I love you! This is fabulous! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leif og Bjarne Drews Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:58 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] huge fashion ingravings database I thoaght, as there are manny here who loves regency to send this link. It has hundreds of fashion prints starting end of 18th century and onwards, year by year. Go to this page: http://www.bibliothequedesartsdecoratifs.com/consultation2/consultation.html click on recherche simple. Type in mode in the place at the left, and put a mark under collection macinet, then click recherche. Now comes a full list of books to the left, mark one of them and click under where it says voir les notices Then the title of the book appears to the right, click the link in the bottom. Then small images appear to the right, these are clickable to huge resolution images wich pops up in new windows. They are all downloadable, and gues who is a very happy man? I know its a little difficult to find them, but if you do what i said here, it should work for you! There is enough for days i tell you Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] removing blod stains
Quoting Leif og Bjarne Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I remember i saw a tv programme from the workshop at Chanel where all the work of the couturieres was shown. It happened from time to time, that some of the ladies, stuck their fingers and bleeded on the haute couture creations, but then they had a lady they send for who emediately came and removed the blod stains. What do you think they used? I have often wondered about this, and also because sometimes it happens for myself two. What do you do? Soak it in salt water. susan/ jerusha - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College Division of Science and Math http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] removing blod stains
A friend told me that if you bleed on fabric, you need to suck it out, because your saliva will put your blood into solution. It worked on some cotton I was working on. Anyone know if this is true or not? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leif og Bjarne Drews Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:30 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] removing blod stains I remember i saw a tv programme from the workshop at Chanel where all the work of the couturieres was shown. It happened from time to time, that some of the ladies, stuck their fingers and bleeded on the haute couture creations, but then they had a lady they send for who emediately came and removed the blod stains. What do you think they used? I have often wondered about this, and also because sometimes it happens for myself two. What do you do? Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
