Re: [h-cost] Off Topic: Removing ink from cotton blend

2012-05-16 Thread Bambi TBNL
You are right about the breathing part, totally forgot we were not in the 
4seventies anymore. How ever the application of the alcohol is more effective 
when a spray than just poured on. . Pump?spray bottle is helpful. So is vodka 
for those folks who are wheat intolerant and vodka leave behind no after 
residue ore oder.( it is also used as a spot cleaner/deoderizer/antibactutial 
on costumes, suits and uniforms where regular drycleaning is needed but not an 
option.
-Original Message-
Date: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 1:07:14 am
To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com
From: Margaret Geiss-Mooney m...@textileconservator.com
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Off Topic: Removing ink from cotton blend

Good evening, H-Costume'lers - The process for blotting is well described
below. BUT please use liquid 99% isopropyl or 70% isopropyl alcohol and NOT
aerosol hairspray. You do NOT want to be breathing all of the ingredients of
the hairspray nor leaving all those unneeded ingredients behind in your
clothes. I have found both 99% and 70% isoprop in the first aid aisle of my
local grocery store and local pharmacy store. You need lots of air
circulation and fresh air while using the alcohol as well - ideally, working
outside. 

If you find that neither of the isoprops are moving the ink in to the paper
towels, try ethyl alcohol (ethanol) - EverClearT grain alcohol is available
in most places at 151 proof (75% ethanol/25% water). In some states you can
also get EverClearT at 190 proof (95% ethanol/5% water) and you should use
that if it is available. I also suggest you wear nitrile gloves so you don't
dry out your skin on your hands as you are switching out paper towels
(plain, undecorated ones), no matter which alcohol you try. 

Please feel free to contact me off-line if you need further clarification or
have additional questions.  
Regards,  
Meg 
.   _  _  _  _  _  _  _   _ _   ___ 
Margaret E. Geiss-Mooney 
Textile/Costume Conservator 
Collections Management Consultant   
Professional Associate - AIC 
707-763-8694 
m...@textileconservator.com   

.. alcohol is essential.how Everex so is a blotted. We used to get
instant out of our nursing assistant uniforms by having loads of papertowel
handy. It is time and materials consuming.it took me 45 minutes  and  1/2
can of gairspray once to get out a staint the size of my fist but it did
come out completely. Put a wad of paper towels under the stain. Have another
wad handy. Saturated the stain with gairspray. Blot. Keep turning or
changing the town so you dont remain with the inky towels. Keep repeating
the process repeating the sting with the gairspray  and blotting it away.
Dont forget to check the underpaid of towels to have always a clean surface
from under as swell! We used to get every bit outof white uniforms, well
enough for inspection which was very unforgiving.  ...


...ink is water based and when trying to remove the ink it bleeds making the
end spots bigger.  May husband did this before and I washed the clothes
several times and removed some of the ink but not all.  This time the ink
blots are massive and all over my clothes. ...

 


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Re: [h-cost] Off Topic: Removing ink from cotton blend

2012-05-16 Thread Bambi TBNL
The problem iwirh simmering things with ink in something that will dilute the 
stain is that if you are lucky(?) it merely Tues into a dye that now permeates 
the entire garment, rarely evenly at that, which i believe is how the problem 
got to be so bad in the first place. If i am not mistaken, the majority of the 
initial damage happened in the washer with a water soluble pen . 
this did jog my memory though. 
about 15 years ago i had a picked of Guatemala hand woven fabric, cotton 
(white) and silver thread brocade. Someone hd spilled cherry nyquil on it. It 
being already turned i figured i could not make it worse so i purchased a 
carbon dye magnet. This looked like a regular sized what wwashcloth which 
supposedly sucks the free roaming dyes out of your laundry during a regular 
wash cycle preventing just such a disaster like the ink pen debacle or a red 
sock hinting  a load of sports uniforms pink. 
it took 24 hrs but after wetting the stain  and  leaving it to blot over and 
over again  with the dye magnet, the cherry red dye faded to a light shadow of 
pink whereas i then threw it in the wash on delicate with the dye magnet and 
the whole thing game out whiter than it had been before the accident. 
at the time i believe the product was priced between 4 and 5 $ and was 
supposedly good for 30 lads of laundry.
it might be worth a try if you are running out of ideas and patience.
-Original Message-
Date: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 2:13:58 am
To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com
From: Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Off Topic: Removing ink from cotton blend

What if you got a couple of gallons of alcohol and soaked the clothes in it?
It's fairly inexpensive.
Sharon C.

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[h-cost] Grrrrr ... !

2012-05-16 Thread stilskin

 Guddammut, time for a Cartman-like rant:

Those *%$$!   bxstards at the   #@^$! supermarket have stopped
stocking %(#! starch. Real starch, not that %$!@)( spray lubricant.
You bxstards!

-C.

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[h-cost] Exhibition: Fashion and Fencing in Renaissance Europe

2012-05-16 Thread Linda Walton

A new exhibition opens tomorrow in London at The Wallace Collection:

The Noble Art of the Sword: Fashion and Fencing in Renaissance Europe
http://www.wallacecollection.org/collections/exhibition/93

It runs from Thursday 17th May, 2012 to Sunday 16th September, 2012.

The web page has a detailed description of the goodies on display and 
their context, and it might be worth looking out for coverage in the 
media soon.


Also, I've heard that one of the portraits will be The Laughing 
Cavalier (1624) by Frans Hals.  If you go to


http://wallacelive.wallacecollection.org:8080/eMuseumPlus?service=ExternalInterfacemodule=collectionobjectId=64959 



there is a a description and a photo, and if you click on the photo a 
separate window opens, showing an enlargement in which you can see in 
detail his lace, and his silk costume with all its symbols of love.


If anyone happens to be in London and visits this exhibition, perhaps 
they'd tell us more about it?


Linda Walton,
(in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.).
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[h-cost] Exhibition: Ballgowns: British Glamour Since 1950

2012-05-16 Thread Linda Walton

Another exhibition opens on Saturday, at the VA in London:

Ballgowns: British Glamour Since 1950

http://www.vam.ac.uk/content/exhibitions/ballgowns/ballgowns-british-glamour-since-1950/

From spring 2012 the VA celebrates the opening of the newly renovated 
Fashion Galleries with an exhibition of beautiful ballgowns, red carpet 
evening dresses and catwalk showstoppers. Displayed over two floors, 
'Ballgowns: British Glamour Since 1950' will feature more than sixty 
designs for social events such as private parties, royal balls, state 
occasions and opening nights.


There are lots more details here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2012/may/15/vanda-ballgowns-exhibition-red-carpet

and lots of lovely photos here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/fashion/gallery/2012/may/15/ballwgown-british-glamour-v-a-in-pictures

Again, if anyone manages to visit this exhibition, please will they tell 
us about it?


Linda Walton,
(in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.).
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Re: [h-cost] Grrrrr ... !

2012-05-16 Thread annbwass
And superfine sugar, and tarragon vinegar, and . . . .
Heard a woman the other day swear that our largest local chain deliberately 
goes through and quits carrying x items a month that she buys all the time.


Ann Wass



-Original Message-
From: stilskin stils...@netspace.net.au
To: h-costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Wed, May 16, 2012 6:50 am
Subject: [h-cost] Gr ... !



 Guddammut, time for a Cartman-like rant:

Those *%$$!   bxstards at the   #@^$! supermarket have stopped
stocking %(#! starch. Real starch, not that %$!@)( spray lubricant.
You bxstards!

-C.

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Re: [h-cost] Off Topic: Removing ink from cotton blend

2012-05-16 Thread Katy Bishop
How about getting mold/mildew stains out of a white cotton/linen blend (my
beautiful repro. Victorian blouse got left at the bottom of a laundry
basket while damp.).  Is there any hope?

Katy

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 2:04 AM, Margaret Geiss-Mooney 
m...@textileconservator.com wrote:

 Good evening, H-Costume'lers - The process for blotting is well described
 below. BUT please use liquid 99% isopropyl or 70% isopropyl alcohol and NOT
 aerosol hairspray. You do NOT want to be breathing all of the ingredients
 of
 the hairspray nor leaving all those unneeded ingredients behind in your
 clothes. I have found both 99% and 70% isoprop in the first aid aisle of my
 local grocery store and local pharmacy store. You need lots of air
 circulation and fresh air while using the alcohol as well - ideally,
 working
 outside.

 If you find that neither of the isoprops are moving the ink in to the paper
 towels, try ethyl alcohol (ethanol) - EverClearT grain alcohol is available
 in most places at 151 proof (75% ethanol/25% water). In some states you can
 also get EverClearT at 190 proof (95% ethanol/5% water) and you should use
 that if it is available. I also suggest you wear nitrile gloves so you
 don't
 dry out your skin on your hands as you are switching out paper towels
 (plain, undecorated ones), no matter which alcohol you try.

 Please feel free to contact me off-line if you need further clarification
 or
 have additional questions.
 Regards,
 Meg
 .   _  _  _  _  _  _  _   _ _   ___
 Margaret E. Geiss-Mooney
 Textile/Costume Conservator 
 Collections Management Consultant
 Professional Associate - AIC
 707-763-8694
 m...@textileconservator.com

 .. alcohol is essential.how Everex so is a blotted. We used to get
 instant out of our nursing assistant uniforms by having loads of papertowel
 handy. It is time and materials consuming.it took me 45 minutes  and  1/2
 can of gairspray once to get out a staint the size of my fist but it did
 come out completely. Put a wad of paper towels under the stain. Have
 another
 wad handy. Saturated the stain with gairspray. Blot. Keep turning or
 changing the town so you dont remain with the inky towels. Keep repeating
 the process repeating the sting with the gairspray  and blotting it away.
 Dont forget to check the underpaid of towels to have always a clean surface
 from under as swell! We used to get every bit outof white uniforms, well
 enough for inspection which was very unforgiving.  ...


 ...ink is water based and when trying to remove the ink it bleeds making
 the
 end spots bigger.  May husband did this before and I washed the clothes
 several times and removed some of the ink but not all.  This time the ink
 blots are massive and all over my clothes. ...




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Re: [h-cost] Grrrrr ... !

2012-05-16 Thread Katy Bishop
I know I haven't been able to find starch in any store for a long time
now--won't touch spray starch. And my mother can't understand why I stock
up on things when I find them!  I have to get around to ordering some Srgo
starch to try before the summer starching season.  My supermarket now
doesn't carry dyes, just color remover.

Katy

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 6:49 AM, stils...@netspace.net.au wrote:


  Guddammut, time for a Cartman-like rant:

 Those *%$$!   bxstards at the   #@^$! supermarket have stopped
 stocking %(#! starch. Real starch, not that %$!@)( spray lubricant.
 You bxstards!

 -C.

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Re: [h-cost] Grrrrr ... !

2012-05-16 Thread Rickard, Patty
You can still get Argo starch at Lehman's Hardware in Kidron, OH (or mail 
order) 
http://www.lehmans.com/store/Home_Goods___Laundry___Washing___Argo_Laundry_Starch___1074030#1074030
Patty


I know I haven't been able to find starch in any store for a long time 
now--won't touch spray starch. And my mother can't understand why I stock up on 
things when I find them!  I have to get around to ordering some Srgo starch to 
try before the summer starching season.  My supermarket now doesn't carry 
dyes, just color remover.

Katy


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Re: [h-cost] Off Topic: Removing mildew stains from cotton blend

2012-05-16 Thread WorkroomButtons.com
Try soaking your blouse overnight in a *very* strong solution of OxyClean 
powder (or generic thereof).  Strong, as in just dump it in.

For spot cleaning on white fabric, I've had a lot of success rubbing a paste of 
OxyClean and liquid hydrogen peroxide onto the stain (chemical reaction = heat, 
so don't be alarmed.

Good luck!
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Re: [h-cost] Off Topic: Removing ink from cotton blend

2012-05-16 Thread Bambi TBNL
i would first try  that stuff that fizzes oxiclean. then procede with the 
carbonne dydmagnet spto treat ment of leaving it soking over the stain and keep 
wetting it an swtihing it out. i dont think it can hurt a repro and it should 
lighten the stains some... maybe completely if you do it enough

Bambi (To be named later) TBNL


I am made for great things by GOD
and walk with Pride
Walladah bint al Mustakfi c 1100ad
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 From: Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com 
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Off Topic: Removing ink from cotton blend
 
How about getting mold/mildew stains out of a white cotton/linen blend (my
beautiful repro. Victorian blouse got left at the bottom of a laundry
basket while damp.).  Is there any hope?

Katy

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 2:04 AM, Margaret Geiss-Mooney 
m...@textileconservator.com wrote:

 Good evening, H-Costume'lers - The process for blotting is well described
 below. BUT please use liquid 99% isopropyl or 70% isopropyl alcohol and NOT
 aerosol hairspray. You do NOT want to be breathing all of the ingredients
 of
 the hairspray nor leaving all those unneeded ingredients behind in your
 clothes. I have found both 99% and 70% isoprop in the first aid aisle of my
 local grocery store and local pharmacy store. You need lots of air
 circulation and fresh air while using the alcohol as well - ideally,
 working
 outside.

 If you find that neither of the isoprops are moving the ink in to the paper
 towels, try ethyl alcohol (ethanol) - EverClearT grain alcohol is available
 in most places at 151 proof (75% ethanol/25% water). In some states you can
 also get EverClearT at 190 proof (95% ethanol/5% water) and you should use
 that if it is available. I also suggest you wear nitrile gloves so you
 don't
 dry out your skin on your hands as you are switching out paper towels
 (plain, undecorated ones), no matter which alcohol you try.

 Please feel free to contact me off-line if you need further clarification
 or
 have additional questions.
 Regards,
 Meg
 .   _  _  _  _  _  _  _   _ _   ___
 Margaret E. Geiss-Mooney
 Textile/Costume Conservator 
 Collections Management Consultant
 Professional Associate - AIC
 707-763-8694
 m...@textileconservator.com

 .. alcohol is essential.how Everex so is a blotted. We used to get
 instant out of our nursing assistant uniforms by having loads of papertowel
 handy. It is time and materials consuming.it took me 45 minutes  and  1/2
 can of gairspray once to get out a staint the size of my fist but it did
 come out completely. Put a wad of paper towels under the stain. Have
 another
 wad handy. Saturated the stain with gairspray. Blot. Keep turning or
 changing the town so you dont remain with the inky towels. Keep repeating
 the process repeating the sting with the gairspray  and blotting it away.
 Dont forget to check the underpaid of towels to have always a clean surface
 from under as swell! We used to get every bit outof white uniforms, well
 enough for inspection which was very unforgiving.  ...


 ...ink is water based and when trying to remove the ink it bleeds making
 the
 end spots bigger.  May husband did this before and I washed the clothes
 several times and removed some of the ink but not all.  This time the ink
 blots are massive and all over my clothes. ...




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     Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era.
      Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books.
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Re: [h-cost] Grrrrr ... !

2012-05-16 Thread Bambi TBNL
potato starch is stil available at grocerystores in the baking section or if 
you have a way to shop a kosher food place

 
Bambi (To be named later) TBNL


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and walk with Pride
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 From: Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com 
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... !
 
I know I haven't been able to find starch in any store for a long time
now--won't touch spray starch. And my mother can't understand why I stock
up on things when I find them!  I have to get around to ordering some Srgo
starch to try before the summer starching season.  My supermarket now
doesn't carry dyes, just color remover.

Katy

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 6:49 AM, stils...@netspace.net.au wrote:


  Guddammut, time for a Cartman-like rant:

 Those *%$$!   bxstards at the   #@^$! supermarket have stopped
 stocking %(#! starch. Real starch, not that %$!@)( spray lubricant.
 You bxstards!

 -C.

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[h-cost] Finding Real Starch

2012-05-16 Thread Sharon Henderson
Hi folks,

The eBay seller chick1154 sells Kershaw's Laundry Starch in 200g bags;
they're in the UK with reasonable prices and shipping.  They also carry
Argo Laundry Starch.

Argo is also available through lehmans.com in the US.  Lehman's carries
genuine lye soap, too.  :)

Have fun!
Sharon
(Jasta, Meli, 'hey, you!!')
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Re: [h-cost] Grrrrr ... !

2012-05-16 Thread Kathryn Pinner
You can get Argo from Rose Brand Theatrical supplies
 http://www.rosebrand.com/product14/Argo-Starch.aspx?tid=2info=argo


Kate Pinner

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On 
Behalf Of Bambi TBNL
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:20 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... !

potato starch is stil available at grocerystores in the baking section or if 
you have a way to shop a kosher food place

 
Bambi (To be named later) TBNL


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and walk with Pride
Walladah bint al Mustakfi c 1100ad
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 From: Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com 
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... !
 
I know I haven't been able to find starch in any store for a long time
now--won't touch spray starch. And my mother can't understand why I stock
up on things when I find them!  I have to get around to ordering some Srgo
starch to try before the summer starching season.  My supermarket now
doesn't carry dyes, just color remover.

Katy

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 6:49 AM, stils...@netspace.net.au wrote:


  Guddammut, time for a Cartman-like rant:

 Those *%$$!   bxstards at the   #@^$! supermarket have stopped
 stocking %(#! starch. Real starch, not that %$!@)( spray lubricant.
 You bxstards!

 -C.

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Re: [h-cost] Grrrrr ... !

2012-05-16 Thread Becky
If mot, you. Can try to boil your own from potatoes. You might find a rwcipe to 
test before you dind one that works for you. Look online for recepe and other 
sources

Sent from my iPhone

On May 16, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Kathryn Pinner pinn...@mccc.edu wrote:

 You can get Argo from Rose Brand Theatrical supplies
 http://www.rosebrand.com/product14/Argo-Starch.aspx?tid=2info=argo
 
 
 Kate Pinner
 
 -Original Message-
 From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On 
 Behalf Of Bambi TBNL
 Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:20 AM
 To: Historical Costume
 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... !
 
 potato starch is stil available at grocerystores in the baking section or if 
 you have a way to shop a kosher food place
 
  
 Bambi (To be named later) TBNL
 
 
 I am made for great things by GOD
 and walk with Pride
 Walladah bint al Mustakfi c 1100ad
 Twitter: hippydippydncr
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HMtOoXtMs0
 
 
 
 From: Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com
 To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:23 AM
 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... !
 
 I know I haven't been able to find starch in any store for a long time
 now--won't touch spray starch. And my mother can't understand why I stock
 up on things when I find them!  I have to get around to ordering some Srgo
 starch to try before the summer starching season.  My supermarket now
 doesn't carry dyes, just color remover.
 
 Katy
 
 On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 6:49 AM, stils...@netspace.net.au wrote:
 
 
   Guddammut, time for a Cartman-like rant:
 
 Those *%$$!   bxstards at the   #@^$! supermarket have stopped
 stocking %(#! starch. Real starch, not that %$!@)( spray lubricant.
 You bxstards!
 
 -C.
 
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Re: [h-cost] Exhibition: Ballgowns: British Glamour Since 1950

2012-05-16 Thread Cin
It was the very first line of the article that made me laugh.  It
isn't an item that hangs in most people's wardrobes, ... the ballgown
...  Likely it makes most of us on h-cost smile that secret smile of
the fabulously well dressed.
Thanks for the links.  The photos are pretty good eye candy.
--cin
Cynthia Barnes
cinbar...@gmail.com


On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 4:48 AM, Linda Walton
linda.wal...@dsl.pipex.com wrote:
 Another exhibition opens on Saturday, at the VA in London:

 There are lots more details here:

 http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2012/may/15/vanda-ballgowns-exhibition-red-carpet
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Re: [h-cost] Finding Real Starch

2012-05-16 Thread Beteena Paradise
Amazon.com has all of this stuff too.
 
Teena



From: Sharon Henderson henderson.sha...@gmail.com
To: h-cost...@indra.com 
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: [h-cost] Finding Real Starch

Hi folks,

The eBay seller chick1154 sells Kershaw's Laundry Starch in 200g bags;
they're in the UK with reasonable prices and shipping.  They also carry
Argo Laundry Starch.

Argo is also available through lehmans.com in the US.  Lehman's carries
genuine lye soap, too.  :)

Have fun!
Sharon
(Jasta, Meli, 'hey, you!!')
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Re: [h-cost] Finding Real Starch

2012-05-16 Thread cw15147-hcos...@yahoo.com
To be precise, Amazon provides a front end for third-party 
retailers. For instance, I found Argo being sold by Barnes Health Care.  I 
ASSUME Amazon takes a cut from every sale, so you might be doing the 
retailers a favor by buying direct from them.



Claudine






 From: Beteena Paradise bete...@mostlymedieval.com
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com 
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Finding Real Starch
 
Amazon.com has all of this stuff too.
 
Teena




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Re: [h-cost] Grrrrr ... !

2012-05-16 Thread Patricia Dunham
there are lots of articles on-line about making your own at home. including a 
number about how to fix various problems that occur with home-made, 8-)

cornstarch, potato-water starch, etc, etc.

chimene

On May 16, 2012, at 3:49 AM, stils...@netspace.net.au wrote:

 
 Guddammut, time for a Cartman-like rant:
 
 Those *%$$!   bxstards at the   #@^$! supermarket have stopped
 stocking %(#! starch. Real starch, not that %$!@)( spray lubricant.
 You bxstards!
 
 -C.


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Re: [h-cost] Grrrrr ... !

2012-05-16 Thread Patricia Dunham
wow does that sound familiar... the secret computer report on what MY household 
buys, so they can quit carrying exactly those items!

oh, and my DH's theory that the MOST POPULAR items are highly likely to get 
dropped, because it's so much bother re-stocking the popular stuff all the 
time... customers keep buying and emptying the shelves, so we have to work 
harder to keep these items in stock -- nah, let's drop 'em  save ourselves the 
work

and when some national corp. giant buys out your local chain and replaces LOCAL 
products with house-brand stuff from wherever they are home-based.

chimene (where Kroger from the MidWest bought Fred Meyer of Oregon and wrought 
all sorts of havoc; and where local WINCO chain is expanding into CA and 
wreaking all sorts of havoc with their stock as they lower and lower the common 
denominator, dropping NW local products for stuff that they can get in 
greater volume, because of the CA store explosion)

On May 16, 2012, at 4:52 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote:

 And superfine sugar, and tarragon vinegar, and . . . .
 Heard a woman the other day swear that our largest local chain deliberately 
 goes through and quits carrying x items a month that she buys all the time.


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Re: [h-cost] Grrrrr ... !

2012-05-16 Thread Beteena Paradise
My husband says the same thing! He says that they cancel the good stuff because 
it is too much work to keep restocking. :)
 
Teena



From: Patricia Dunham chim...@ravensgard.org
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com 
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... !

wow does that sound familiar... the secret computer report on what MY household 
buys, so they can quit carrying exactly those items!

oh, and my DH's theory that the MOST POPULAR items are highly likely to get 
dropped, because it's so much bother re-stocking the popular stuff all the 
time... customers keep buying and emptying the shelves, so we have to work 
harder to keep these items in stock -- nah, let's drop 'em  save ourselves the 
work

and when some national corp. giant buys out your local chain and replaces LOCAL 
products with house-brand stuff from wherever they are home-based.

chimene (where Kroger from the MidWest bought Fred Meyer of Oregon and wrought 
all sorts of havoc; and where local WINCO chain is expanding into CA and 
wreaking all sorts of havoc with their stock as they lower and lower the common 
denominator, dropping NW local products for stuff that they can get in 
greater volume, because of the CA store explosion)

On May 16, 2012, at 4:52 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote:

 And superfine sugar, and tarragon vinegar, and . . . .
 Heard a woman the other day swear that our largest local chain deliberately 
 goes through and quits carrying x items a month that she buys all the time.


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Re: [h-cost] Grrrrr ... !

2012-05-16 Thread Carol Kocian


On May 16, 2012, at 5:58 PM, Patricia Dunham wrote:

oh, and my DH's theory that the MOST POPULAR items are highly  
likely to get dropped, because it's so much bother re-stocking the  
popular stuff all the time... customers keep buying and emptying  
the shelves, so we have to work harder to keep these items in stock  
-- nah, let's drop 'em  save ourselves the work and when some  
national corp. giant buys out your local chain and replaces LOCAL  
products with house-brand stuff from wherever they are home-based.


I think you've nailed it there, they stock more and more of what is  
cheaper to source. Meanwhile, the specialty items like powdered  
starch don't move as fast. If people can get it from an internet  
source, why bother taking up shelf space?


-Carol

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Re: [h-cost] Narrow linen for a shift

2012-05-16 Thread Carol Kocian


On May 16, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Martha Kelly wrote:

The narrow linen of original shifts has an amazingly tiny and  
perfect selvage - less than 1/8.  When the seams are run by hand  
just inside that selvage, it's a thing of beauty and a joy  
forever.  It's impossible to reproduce exactly unless someone these  
days is weaving such linen.  If they exist, I want to know about them!


Martha



Yes, we're so used to thick selvedges these days. Modern power looms  
cut each thread as it is woven, sometimes tucked in for a smooth (but  
thick) selvedge and sometimes a fuzzy/fringey selvedge. Hand-woven  
fabrics just have the thread going back and forth, so there is no  
thick, unusable part of the fabric. And it won't shrink more than the  
rest of the fabric, either!


I agree that the shift is much better off with felled seams. Cut off  
the bad selvedge and then it won't matter that the fabric was woven  
at 60 and split to 30. And definitely use linen instead of cotton.  
Linen bedsheets are great in any temperature, too.


-Carol
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