Re: [h-cost] Where Can I Find Plain Flat Pewter Buttons?
Did you try Jim Kindred? Not sure what he has in stock, but he's great to work with: www.milwarehouse.com HTH-- LuAnn in Washington From: sgkcul...@hotmail.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 04:07:47 + Subject: [h-cost] Where Can I Find Plain Flat Pewter Buttons? Hello, I am in search of a source for large quantities of plain flat pewter buttons, both large (7/8 - 1 inch) small (9/16-1/2 inch) for Revolutionary War coats. I checked James Townsend the cost for the amount of buttons for just one coat is quite high. Does anyone know where I can get larger amounts for a lower cost? I would really appreciate it. Sarah Grace From: h-costume-requ...@indra.com Subject: h-costume Digest, Vol 11, Issue 249 To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 12:00:01 -0700 Send h-costume mailing list submissions to h-costume@mail.indra.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to h-costume-requ...@mail.indra.com You can reach the person managing the list at h-costume-ow...@mail.indra.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of h-costume digest... Today's Topics: 1. Stitches in time: Sandy Powell's Oscar-winning costumes (Catherine Walton) 2. Re: Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is. (Wanda Pease) 3. Re: Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is. (Marjorie Wilser) -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 21:36:02 + From: Catherine Walton catherine.wal...@cherryfield.me.uk To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Stitches in time: Sandy Powell's Oscar-winning costumes Message-ID: 50958e42.8020...@cherryfield.me.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I thought you might be interested in this aricle by Sandy Powell about her career in film costuming: She has dressed everyone from Elizabeth I to Shakespeare, from lovelorn housewives to gangster dandies. As her work goes on show, Sandy Powell explains the tricks of the trade. http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2012/oct/17/sandy-powell-oscar-winning-costumes It's a pity I lost the item when it came out, two or three weeks ago, but at least I've found it and sent it now! With best wishes from Catherine Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). -- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 21:30:10 -0700 From: Wanda Pease wan...@hevanet.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is. Message-ID: 5f87757c-53e9-4627-b94c-d513bd294...@hevanet.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I tend to find these at my local Thrift stores too. Frequently the pants have gotten separated from the rest of the outfit (found one pair in pajamas!). Sometimes they never show, but the tunic is long and full enough that I wear it as a dress and scarf anyway. Since I no longer have to conform, i. e. I can be excentric, I can wear it to work and get compliments from the young folk. I'd say you have parts.of a Salwar/Kameze outfit. You could make pants for it. The pants don't always match in color says my friend from Pakistan. Wanda Sent from my iPad On Nov 1, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Marion McNealy m_mc_ne...@yahoo.com wrote: And here are some other ones, http://www.utsavfashion.com/lehenga - Marion From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thu, November 1, 2012 2:16:50 AM Subject: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is. In the interest of historical costume, modern version: I have a great thrift store outfit I purchased some years ago in the South Bay (San Jose) area. It looks like a typical woman's Punjabi suit consisting of tunic, shawl, and pants-- except there are no pants. There is a long, even on me (5'10) flowing skirt. It's obviously dressy attire. There is gold (?) bullion embroidery on the front of the tunic, and tiny gold seed beads stitched all over the skirt and shawl (wider than the typical Paloo of a sari). Fabric is an abstract print in warm brown and golden tones on a lightweight silk. Lined throughout. It was a very lucky find for me because I am tall and had only to steal fabric from a seam to add a bust room gusset under the arms. Anybody care to hazard a guess as to this outfit's origins? I'm definitely voting for the Punjab because of the tunic, and thinking perhaps it might be some very formal
Re: [h-cost] 'Oregon' - was: Pinking machine
Not trouble, they're just picky and time consuming. And I hate them. Did I mention that? LOL! I will cartridge pleat the Great Wall of China without complaint, but I hate welt pockets. LuAnn From: brenna.sh...@comcast.net To: h-cost...@indra.com Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:52:41 -0800 Subject: [h-cost] 'Oregon' - was: Pinking machine Well, if we think in terms of the 'Oregon Territory' ... g Welt pockets? What sort of trouble are you having? Um, 'Shea' - if you're the one I know, could you contact me offlist? Got a grape vine (literally) question for you. ttfn, Brenna/Kate/Kitty/Europa/'not late for dinner' g - Original Message - From: LuAnn Mason luann_ma...@msn.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Pinking machine - was: Has anyone tried any of these on fabric? Brenna, I think it's me, you and Shea, but since she and I are both north of the Columbia, the wilds of Oregon proper belong to you! LOL! LuAnn who is sewing, sewing, sewing, did I mention I HATE welt pockets??? Ugh... I'm not making vests again--ever! From: brenna.sh...@comcast.net To: h-cost...@indra.com Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:15:57 -0800 Subject: [h-cost] Pinking machine - was: Has anyone tried any of these on fabric? Oh, oh, Anne ... Take a few pictures of it and post them with a link (can't remember if the list will carry attachments...). Also look it over - there _has_ to be a least one 'manufacturer's plate' on it or maybe it's molded into the body. If it's molded in and you can't read it well, do a pencil-on-paper rubbing to bring out the sculpting. :-) I, for one, would like the info! :-) Please and thank you! Europa von Weber (mundanely stuck in the 'unknown lands' of Oregon... anybody else out here?) - Original Message - From: Irina Moeller ladya...@cox.net To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric? I found a cute little hand cranked machine that does the pinking. I have no idea how old it is but it does the job just fine. Anne -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Marjorie Wilser Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 4:02 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric? Alas, I have not seen any Fiskars/rotary blades that successfully duplicate 18th or 19th C pinking designs. There are approximations, but none exact that I have seen. I've been looking. . . for 20 years! == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Feb 4, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Land of Oz wrote (in part): The rotary cutters now have blades with designs. I'd think that would be a lot more likely to work on fabric. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Query on sewing machines
AND if you're addicted to magnetic pin-and-stuff-holders (like I am) your computerized machine will fry from the magnet. Ugh. Give me the old machines, any time. LuAnn Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:17:33 -0700 From: kay...@gmail.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Query on sewing machines For a while in the 80s it seemed like fancy computerized sewing machines were a status symbol among my costuming friends. It seemed like they all had to have the latest and greatest (and most expensive) electronic sewing machines out there. Some of their machines did cross stitch almost as nice as mine, so they were very impressed that I did mine by hand. In fact I became known for my handwork. This handwork is only partly because I discovered embroidery, and ethnic surface decoration back in my Hippie days, before some of those folks were born, and partly because I have the patience to recreate it. But it's also because I could never afford such a fancy machine, preferring my old, all-metal machine that did nothing but sew. I learned that I got more control when I held the needle. I learned things that a machine still can't do, like putting the needle in one place and bringing it out another. And I learned to be more content with things that I had than things which money I didn't have could buy. Get a reconditioned workhorse of a machine and it will outlive you. The old straight-stitch machines are great workhorses, to make just about anything you could imagine. If you look, you can find specialty feet that do all sorts of things-- Hemming feet that turn in a tiny hem hold it for the sewing, Gathering feet that put in tiny pleats after a set number of stitches, Bias-feeding feet that help you put bias binding onto a piece of fabric, Buttonholer, etc. -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- “The future is already here, it is just unevenly distributed.” -William Gibson -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Magnets and machines
Oh, good to know! Bernina was always my favorite, and I'm in the market for a new machine. LuAnn From: kba...@cableone.net To: h-cost...@indra.com Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:25:06 -0500 Subject: [h-cost] Magnets and machines LuAnn-- There is one exception to your statement--Bernina. Bernina computerized machines do not use magnetic memory, and magnets will not harm them. I've tried it, and it's true. Kim -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of LuAnn Mason Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:21 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Query on sewing machines AND if you're addicted to magnetic pin-and-stuff-holders (like I am) your computerized machine will fry from the magnet. Ugh. Give me the old machines, any time. LuAnn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Help! Tear Away Stabilizer
Scribble pad. It's like unprinted newsprint paper. It's cheap, readily available, and doesn't leave a lot of hairs behind when you tear it off. I like it because you can trace your design on it and it leaves no trace behind. HTH-- LuAnn in Washington Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 10:22:07 +1000 From: stils...@netspace.net.au To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Help! Tear Away Stabilizer Hmm, this is why all clothing should be made of leather or denim...no need for stabilizers! Still, if you are committed, a few things I have had luck with are: Teflon foot (helps reduce resistance between foot-side and feed-side); Stiff but see-through tissue paper on top and/or underneath; and (personal favourite) Masking tape, the really textured type that will pull away easily). Still, a leather and denim prom dress? Hmm, could be a match for my old Harley Davidson Star Trek uniform, -C. This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd1_052009 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Period Impressions 411 Lucy
Sorry I can't help you with this one. I'm not of the appropriate age for this teen style, and my experience with Period Impressions patterns hasn't been good when comparing to original garments. Hope you can find someone who can give you more detailed feedback. LuAnn Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:40:20 +1100 From: aylwe...@gmail.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Period Impressions 411 Lucy Has anyone here made this dress?I am looking for finished examples, and it is NOT reviewed at http://www.gbacg.org/great-pattern-review/period-impressions.html Any comments to share before I cut the fabric? Bye for now, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy music ~ dancing ~ sewing ~ patterns ~ books 1480s - 1890s : Renaissance to Victorian http://www.earthlydelights.com.au ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Windows Live™ Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Number of machines.Was Sewing and Embroidery Machines
Speaking just for myself, I taught my kids to sew. Snarling was heard over some people hogging the machine. Then I had one croak in the middle of a major project, and I vowed never to be without a backup again. So I have my main machine, and my backup, my son has a machine, my daughter has a machine, and I have a backup for THEM to use in case one of their machines goes down. I also periodically help or teach other people to sew who are just learning, and it's easier for me to set up a spare machine than for them to haul theirs around in the car. Sewing machines and stock pots. Got a bunch of both of them. :-) LuAnn Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 09:06:45 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Number of machines.Was Sewing and Embroidery Machines I am fascinated by the fact that some people have many machines. I have only two plus a serger, and I sew professionally. I only need one, as long as it works - the other is in case anything goes wrong with the main machine. So why do people have so many? Do you not trade in the old one when buying a new one, which is what I do? Do you have machines that do different things? Suzi - wasting time 'cos I hate the current job! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_mobile_052008 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Simplicity new Civil War patterns
I took a look at that one last night. It's kind of like a vaguely basque-bodiced wrapper type thing. Not saying that they DIDN'T have something like that back in the day, but I've never seen anything like it. Granted, I'm no expert either, but in probably 300+ original garments I've examined, I've never seen all those elements put together in one garment. It's more of an amalgam, IMO. YMMV, of course. LuAnn Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:17:19 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Simplicity new Civil War patterns Vicky Simpson asked if they have the correct period look. It's really hard to say, Vicky, when you're looking at a tiny picture on a computer screen. However, the waist seam on the day dress is lower than the natural waist and I made a mental note to check position on all the other seams too. I haven't seen any photographs of Victorian/Civil Way era dresses with a waist lower than a natural waist, although earlier in the period the waist was shorter. I say all that, but I don't believe that I'm the be-all to end-all in the research world. I'm sure someone else will be able to give more information. LynnD On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Sharon Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh yummy... 2887 done in grey silk taffeta with gold silk cuffs and trims would be scrumptious for a Confederate cavalry officer's lady, now wouldn't it?? :) Yes, I'll be shopping come sale time tomorrow :) Thanks for posting the simplicity link! Sharon/Meli Virginia girl by inclination and carpetbag :) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ In a rush? Get real-time answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_realtime_042008 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Tea Bodice question
I haven't seen anything extant that looks like the PI Tea Bodice, but I've hardly seen every surviving original garment from that time period. My own experience with that pattern line is that they are basically modified modern patterns--the shoulder line, armscye, side seams, and back construction are not consistent with the cut of garments from the time periods they are attempting to portray, so I don't use this particular line. I suppose it depends on if you're looking for a costume or want to make a reproduction that's consistent with extant clothing examples. If you want to make a costume, it doesn't really matter. If you want a reproduction piece consistent with the cut and tailoring of the time period, you won't get it from this pattern. My nickel, for whatever it's worth. LuAnn Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:00:18 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Tea Bodice question I should have asked if anyone has made this pattern - am I way off in my opinion? LynnD On 3/25/08, Lynn Downward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That looks to be the picture from the 1863 bodice from Janet Arnolds Patterns of Fashion, copied line for line except for the scallop decoration. I don't know the pattern #403 or the company Period Impression, but that's what you've got. LynnD On 3/25/08, Aylwen Garden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just purchased the Period Impression Tea Bodice Pattern #403 and am looking for examples in portraits etc. I've seen a few modern examples, but nothing historical, and want to make sure that I make it to the correct period. I can't find any examples in my godeys picture collection either, but it is not too extensive. Does anyone here know of any pictures that can help me in my research? http://www.jamescountry.com/patterns/periodimpressions/new/ppi45.jpg Many thanks, Aylwen ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Windows Live Hotmail is giving away Zunes. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/ZuneADay/?locale=en-USocid=TXT_TAGLM_Mobile_Zune_V3 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] 1867 Washington DC Fashion question
My first guess is a fancy-dress (costume) or themed ball. LuAnn From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:03:35 -0800 Subject: [h-cost] 1867 Washington DC Fashion question My brother sent me a question about fashion in 1867 - specifically regarding a ball in Washington DC. Do any of you have any idea why an 1867 woman would powder her hair or wear a blue ribbon around her neck? Here is the original quote. It's taken from the letters of John Hay. He was Abraham Lincoln's private secretary all during the Lincoln administration and then got sent to France as a diplomatic attache during the Johnson administration. He wrote about the ball in DC in February 1867 when he'd just returned from Paris. begin quote: February 11. Mrs. Sprague gave a beautiful ball. The ladies who danced the Cotillon, and many who did not, had their hair powdered a la marquise. I have never seen so beautiful and picturesque a roomful. Some of the most striking were the Hostess herself (with whom I danced), the Hoyts, Miss Romain Goddard, Miss Haggerty, and Mrs. Banks, who was very correctly dressed, even to the extend of the blue ribbon around the neck, a little refinement in which she was alone -- Miss Kinzie, a fresh Western beauty and a superb danseuse. Mrs. Sumner and Miss Hooper, though not powdered, were beautifully dressed. :end quote I have my theories but I don't want to influence any of your answers as they are just theories. Thanks, Agnes ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] grenadier's caps
Courtesy of Jay Callaham: Military Collector and Historian: The Grenadier's Bearskin Cap, 1768-1802: A Method of Construction Bass, Linnea M. and William W. Burke MCH, 46 (Fall 1994), pp. 115-122. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Grenadiers Hat WAS: [h-cost] RE: h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 34 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:59:55 -0700 CC: Hi Jose, you might have better response to your query if you change the subject line. I just happened across this one because I am getting used to a new email client. Don't have an answer to your question, but am interested to see what others come up with! Wick'd Frau (aka Sg) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; h-costume@mail.indra.com Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:24:21 -0400 CC: Subject: [h-cost] RE: h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 34 Does anyone know how to make an 18th century Grenadiers hat? Best regards Jose -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 7:19 PM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 34 Send h-costume mailing list submissions to h-costume@mail.indra.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of h-costume digest... ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Castle Otttis
Hi, Vicky--I'm no expert of course, but the blurb for the place says 1,000 years ago, so that would put it ca. 1000 CE. I would say that's a no earlier than date, though, since obviously a real castle would have continued use for centuries. Houppelands, gothic fitted dresses, maybe even something as late as Tudor would all be reasonable, but span quite a long time period. It might be best to call your sister and ask her to narrow down the time frame a bit--is she wanting early as in when the castle would have been new? Or somewhat later into the early Renaissance? In any event, it looks like a lovely place to hold a wedding, and I hope you take a lot of pictures to share! LuAnn Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 04:14:28 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Subject: [h-cost] Castle Otttis My sister is getting married March 17th at Castle Otttis in St Augustine. The wedding party and guests are asked to dress period. My question is - What period? I've searched the site ( http://www.castleotttis.com/index.html ) and can't really find any specific year or time period. I do know that we do not have to be historically correct, but I'd like to be as close as I can in such a short time. If anyone can give me any advice on a pattern, I would be so thankful. As Civil War is more my time period, I'm a little lost. Any help at all would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Vicky ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Enough!!!!!..... and a return to what this list issupposed to be about.
I absolutely agreed with everything you said, and the brocade gown looks lovely. I think your idea of silk velvet is probably a good idea. I think anything heavier would not give you the same look as the painting and would definitely affect the flow of the gown. I can't wait to see it when you're finished--be sure to post pictures. LuAnn - Original Message - From: Beteena Paradisemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costumemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 3:13 AM Subject: [h-cost] Enough!. and a return to what this list issupposed to be about. The problem is not that Fran is harsh... Fran can be whatever she chooses. It's her life and her kharma. The problem is that Fran is harsh to people in a public forum to such an extent that she has a reputation that people should avoid her at all costs. Her harshness has led to people leaving e-lists of topics they enjoy. Her cop-out of telling us to use a filter is not acceptable. I shouldn't have to filter out someone because they cannot come up with the common decency to behave in a manner accepted by the society in which she is travelling. In this case, that society is this e-list. Clearly as a group we find her behavior unacceptable. She should either put on HER big girl pants and save her venom for those in her real life who can choose to walk away. We, as a group, joined this list to talk about HISTORIC COSTUME... not to have to listen to a bitter woman call people thieves and trolls. Perhaps she should make a list called FRAN and then she can talk about anything she wants in a manner that she chooses and anyone who wants to participate can join that list. Now my personal rant is over and I prefer to return to talking about historic costumes so that is what I am going to do. For example... I am considering a German gown similar to Duchess Katherine von Mecklenburg. http://www.abcgallery.com/C/cranach/cranach55.htmlhttp://www.abcgallery.com/C/cranach/cranach55.html The yellow looks like a damask to my eyes. Do you think it is? Or is it embroidery? Stamped velvelt? If I do it in a decent weight damask (I already have a nice golden yellow cotton damask), do you think that a silk velvet would have enough body to it to work right with the damask? Or would something else work better? Audrey Bergeron-Morin [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if you've been on that list any length of time, you'll probably have noticed that Fran *is* harsh. Personnally, I just delete her emails. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] wedding in historical costumes
Actually, a lot of the maneuverability issues depend on whether you're using a modern substitute hoop that has circular hoops all the way around suspended in a drawstring petticoat, or if you have a more accurate cage crinoline which a) shifts the weight of the skirts to the back and b) more importantly, has a break in the hooping along the front. That gap (for lack of a better word) is the key to maneuverability in a hoop--you can sit, you can dance, you can do LOTS of things when the gap is there that become cumbersome when it isn't. LuAnn - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] wedding in historical costumes In a message dated 10/6/2007 1:52:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not one of those huge hoop skirts. Impossible to dance a waltz in that. Well, they waltzed quite a lot in hoops in the period. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.comhttp://www.aol.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] wedding in historical costumes
Oh, absolutely. It's just interesting to trace the evolution because the crinolines that have the open fronts are so much more comfortable / wearable / danceable than the earlier hooped petticoat style. LuAnn - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] wedding in historical costumes In a message dated 10/6/2007 1:40:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, a lot of the maneuverability issues depend on whether you're using a modern substitute hoop that has circular hoops all the way around suspended in a drawstring petticoat, or if you have a more accurate cage crinoline which a) shifts the weight of the skirts to the back and b) more importantly, has a break in the hooping along the front. That gap (for lack of a better word) is the key to maneuverability in a hoop--you can sit, you can dance, you can do LOTS of things when the gap is there that become cumbersome when it isn't. ** True. But still, even though cage crinolines were numerous, there are also examples of hooped petticoats, and hoops start out being circular before moving into that trained, elongated form you see near the end of the period. So there was still a whole lotta waltzing going on in circular, hooped petticoats. Of course no one said it was easy! ** See what's new at http://www.aol.comhttp://www.aol.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Modern shirt construction question...
Yolks are for eggs. Yokes are for shirts. And oxen. :-) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:56:46 -0400 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Modern shirt construction question... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: In a message dated 8/17/2007 1:26:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the wide pane they use for lining the shoulders *** BTW this is called a yolk'. Not all modern shirts have them. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] How do I make a removable leg cast?
My first thought would be to go the direct route--call some orthopedic offices and ask if you can have an old leg cast they've removed. Yes, they use weird colors now, but a can of white spray paint should fix that. You could tape up one side that's been sawn open, and use velcro on the other to get it on and off.LuAnn To: h-costume@mail.indra.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:43:21 -0500 Subject: [h-cost] How do I make a removable leg cast? Once again I need expert advice for a theatrical production. For Cat on a Hot Tin Roof (circa 1954), I need to make a removable old-style plaster leg cast (knee to toes) that our actor can wear for about 15 performances. I've got a couple of ideas, but would like to hear from you guys before I proceed...things always seem to go better after they've been tweaked and advised by the members of this list! Tia, Allison P ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] How do I make a removable leg cast?
Denise wrote: OH YUCK!! 6 weeks' (or more) worth of dead skin cells and dried sweat. Please don't go there. What she said! ICK!I guess everybody has a different experience. We kept my daughter's leg cast (she uses it as a unique container to store long things--the cat's fishing pole toy, long pieces of bamboo she likes, some willow switches, her parasol, etc.). We took out the sock layer that was right next to her skin, sprayed the thing with Lysol just because and never had any smells, discoloration, or whatever. Had it three years now with no negative ick factor, so that was why I suggested it.Go figure.LuAnn___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] your dream costume trip
Interesting how different people respond to different things. My all-time favorite costuming stop was the Museum of the Confederacy. Go figure. I found the curator VERY accommodating--our scheduled half-hour behind-the-scenes-down-in-the-archives trip to look at a maximum of three items turned into a four hour quick and dirty look at every single piece of fabric in the archives. It all depends on what you are looking for, I guess. My husband and I are both very interested in military uniforms, which is much of the focus of course. However, I'm also an avid researcher of the city of Winchester, Virginia vis a vis the Civil War. One of my favorite diaries from Winchester was by Cornelia Peake MacDonald. Mrs. MacDonald had a new bronze silk dinner dress made in anticipation of a scheduled dinner with her husband's commanding officer, General Stonewall Jackson. Instead, Jackson was wounded at Chancellorsville and subsequently died of his wounds before the planned dinner could take place, and Mrs. MacDonald carefully packed away the bronze silk dress unworn. Finding it on display at the Museum of the Confederacy, along with Mrs. MacDonald's daughter's beloved doll which she also mentioned in her diary, was worth the trip for me and brought me to tears because I knew the story behind the scenes as it were. My husband, by contrast, had been reading a specific soldier's diary on our trip, and was thrilled to find the man's uniform coat down in the climate controlled storage units.And if you're looking for pretty stuff, the Valentine Museum is just down the street from the Museum of the Confederacy. They have one of the largest collections of women's historical clothing in the United States. They are also amenable to scheduled trips into the archives to examine their pieces. And again, we found the museum curator VERY accommodating, and spent several hours examining any number of garments over and above the allowed number before we adjourned for an impromptu lunch to discuss historic clothing. One place I haven't heard anyone mention is a bit off the beaten path. About four years ago, my girlfriend took me to the University of Rhode Island to see their historic clothing collection. I found a fabulous variety of women's dresses, outerwear, bonnets, shoes, accessorites, etc. that was very comprehensive between 1800-1920. Again, we were assigned a graduate student who was very accommodating and basically turned us and our cameras loose to spend a wonderful afternoon playing in the store room. I couldn't tell you the exact number of items they have, but I know I burned through two 1 gig memory cards in the digital camera in short order, and had to go down and get my friend's digi out of the car.Bottom line: I guess you get out of something what you're willing to put into it. If you're well-versed and interested in what a specific museum has on display, you'll probably go home happy. If you don't have a specific knowledge or interest, you're far more likely to go home disappointed. A friend just returned from a trip to China. She now regrets that she didn't learn more about Chinese history and culture BEFORE her trip, because many of the things she saw had little significance for her without the background knowledge.One other place I just remembered--if you're interested in historic military uniforms, an absolute must-see is the Artillery Museum in Newport, RI. Absolutely wonderful, lots of great things on display, and once again, tremendously accommodating docents and curator.LuAnn Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 14:31:13 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] your dream costume trip To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC:--- Cin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:travel the world and see every costume related museum you could what would you want to see.I'd prioritize several ways. Places I havent been: Museum of the Confederacy (Richmond VA)--cin Cynthia Bar,nes I was distinctly unimpressed by the Museum of the Confederacy. Costuming-specific, they has a little lacey knit mitt on display, which was labelled crochet. Unless crochet now means knit with holes in? The few far between other clothing items on display were largely nothing that impressed me. fwiw. Ann in CT p.s., the whole 'rmance of the glorious South' has pretty much passed me by; and this was before I read the letter about an uncle of mine getting his head blown off. ac Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Stuff of interest in Seattle?
Weaving works is awesome, and I believe there's a Greater Seattle Area Costumer's Guild... Sorry, I'm about three hours away from there, and don't get that way very often. LuAnn From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 03:24:31 -0500 CC: Subject: [h-cost] Stuff of interest in Seattle? It looks like there's a good chance that within the year, I'll be moving to the Seattle area. Is there anything out there of interest to h-cost type folks? -E House, dreading packing and planning to start EARLY this time... ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Wal-Mart fabric
It's definitely a treasure hunt, but that's what makes it fun. My best finds? A lovely heavy white moire satin in cotton/acetate for my DIL's wedding dress. 60 wide and it was a dollar a yard. I also found some first run reproduction fabric, the lovely smooth sateen hand and straight on grain printing for $2 a yard. I had passed the same thing up at a specialty shop earlier in the day for $11 a yard. I also haunt my local Pendleton outlet. I dropped the better part of $250 there today, but that was for a total of 64 yards of beautiful Pendleton wool. I was a happy. I walked out with nothing every time I went for the past three or four months, because there wasn't anything worth taking home, at least for me. LuAnn - Original Message - From: Pierre Sandy Pettingermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 9:24 PM Subject: [h-cost] Re: Wal-Mart fabric Well, our last competition costume (for Archon 2006 in St. Louis) was designed at 11 pm at our local Wal-Mart around the fabric they had in stock. It included black/blue/brown chinese brocade (acetate probably), yellow quilting cotton, a variegated brown crushed panne velour, and a stretch yellow patterned ruffle trim on clearance. It also included some of the same crushed panne in burgundy and lining for same, and light yellow sparkle rattail cording. Title: The King in Yellow (from an 1895 horror short story - obligatory historical content ;-) ) Result: Best in Class Master Division It was built in 2.5 weeks after the originally intended project crashed and burned. If you were at CC25 - my costume was what I wore judging the F/SF masquerade. We also buy bolts of the $1/yard stuff for mock-ups, and sometimes find decent generic lining there too. Not our first choice for fabric, but sometimes has interesting stuff. Sandy Walmart carries garment quality fabric? I suppose it does depend on location. Annette T Those Who Fail To Learn History Are Doomed to Repeat It; Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly -- Why They Are Simply Doomed. Achemdro'hm The Illusion of Historical Fact -- C.Y. 4971 Andromeda ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Walmart Fabric Dept...
Interesting. My son just put in an application for WalMart because their starting wage is higher than Sears, where he works now. I don't see anyone protesting Sears, of course. LuAnn - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: Walmart Fabric Dept... Walmart carries garment quality fabric? * Depends on the garment I found one of my fave fabrics at Wal-mart: large, colorful, realistic tropical fish floating in a white void. Made a great Hawaiian shirt! ** and now...OT I saw on Showtime an installment of the Penn and Teller show Bullsh*t on the myth of how awful Wal-Mart was. Boy...talk about bullsh*t! For example, the made in a sweatshop issue [Wal-mart is not the only culprit, I know]. The apologist for sweatshops says that usually, in these poor countries, the sweatshop is a better wage than anything else, or the only jobs around. Like that justifies it. Like that is the only alternative: sweatshops or nothing. Hey...Imagine if the sweatshops weren't sweatshops! Imagine if they paid a halfway decent wage [even for whatever 3rd world country involved] instead. And get this excuse! The sweatshop apologist actually said America used to have sweatshops too, but we, over time, finally because of them, collected enough capital to get rid of them! Pu-leez! Like there wasn't enough capital in 19th century America. Hasn't he read an Edith Wharton novel? [probably not] America doesn't have sweatshops today [well, we're not supposed to] because of legislation, not a build up of capital. Corporations would still to this day be using child labor had we not outlawed it! [C'monyou know that's true] Bullsh*t indeed! Then there was the average Wal-mart employee makes over $10 an hour ploy. Well, sure! If you include top level employees and maybe the CEOs! If you took the average income of all of us on this list, and added into it Bill Gates and Dick Cheney, our average incomes would rise considerably! OoooI hate it when they in TV land think we're dumb! OK...end of OT rant... ** See what's free at http://www.aol.comhttp://www.aol.com/. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Best styles for tall girls - OT
No, but I personally have a couple of caveats off the top of my head. I had a friend get married who was 5'11, and these came from that: a) 3/4 length sleeves are your enemy. Mid-size people can wear them and everybody gets that they are supposed to end between the elbow and the wrist. If you're very short or very tall, the initial look says your clothes don't fit. b) Likewise, tea length is not good for either the very short or very tall, IMO. Ending a few inches above your ankle looks on purpose if you're 5'6. If you're 5'2, you look like you're wearing your mother's skirt, and if you're 6' you look like you couldn't get clothes long enough. c) My first thought is that an empire style with a long skirt falling straight from the bustline might really tend to elongate her body and make her look even taller than she is, so I would tend to steer her toward something with a defined waist. With all that long, lovely torso, though, and long legs, she should be able to wear styles that other girls can only dream about because they get too busy when compressed onto an average sized body. Just my nickel-- LuAnn - Original Message - From: WickedFraumailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Historical Costume'mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 12:29 PM Subject: [h-cost] Best styles for tall girls - OT Hi, this is OT, but I know you guys know a lot. I have been asked by an 8th grader who is over 6 feet tall to make a graduation dress. She doesn't really have any ideas of what she wants. Do you know of a resource which will tell what styles look best on tall girls? Thanks! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] fabric sample windfall--removing glue
Actually, you can buy this in any scrapbooking store, or any craft store that has a decent supply of scrapbooking supplies. LuAnn - Original Message - From: Linda Ricemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Historical Costume'mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 12:58 PM Subject: RE: [h-cost] fabric sample windfall--removing glue We used Un-Du when I worked as a custom framer. It is amazing stuff! You might try contacting a local frame supply place to see if they'll sell it to you. (They may not sell to the public, but it never hurts to ask) ::Linda:: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Betsy Marshall No, still looking in my local stores(sad face) http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/001194.phphttp://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/001194.php hope you can find it in a local store.. Betsy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: paillets...
AND you can save yourself about thirty bucks on the system buying on eBay. Best part about the Wizard is that it takes all the OTHER manufacturer's die cuts. If you don't find exactly what you want in the Wizard line, you can buy someone else's leaf, flower, butterfly, or whatever, and the tools are included with the Wizard to make them work. Doing more scrapping than sewing these days-- LuAnn - Original Message - From: cahuffmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 12:18 PM Subject: [h-cost] Re: paillets... At 12:00 PM -0700 3/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know of a place where i can buy some silver leaf palliettes. Shaped like leafs? They dont have to be excactly like these i have here: http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/cel.htm And it doesnt matter if they are metal or plastic, when it comes to rare things, you cant afford to be crittical. Bjarne I just was at a friends house and she showed me this *AWESOME* press. It did metal flashing and soda can metal the same as paper. There are leaf dies for it was well as flower dies and a bunch of terribly cute ones... It's called a Wizzard(sp) and is all the rage amongst the stamping/journaling/scrap booking set... And the results are just what you are looking for! Ta Carol--Darn, new shelves will be full soon G -- Creative Clutter is Better Than Idle Neatness! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The bead-net dress (was: movie costumes--Egyptian)
Dental floss would be one option, but ever since I discovered kevlar beading thread, I haven't used dental floss again. The kevlar is nice and thin like regular thread, cuts easily, and doesn't fray like dental floss. Just an alternative LuAnn in Washington - Original Message - From: Catherine Olanich Raymondmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costumemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] The bead-net dress (was: movie costumes--Egyptian) On Friday 05 January 2007 12:51 pm, Lynn Downward wrote: Robin, thank you for sending us that link. It's only fabulous! Warning in case someone is thinking of making that dress, even for a doll: I do some net beading - my sister calls it the insane beading - and the way that net dress was reproduced promises that it would never survive a day of wear (not that they reproduced it for wear). The threads would have to be woven through the beads several times each for stability, especially since many of the beads used by the Egyptians are faence and are very sharp-edged and would cut through the threads. As for folk brave enough to try to make such a beaded dress, I have two words of advice--dental floss. Stronger than any other thread I know of (makers of belly dance garb sometimes suggest it for beading dance bras). These beautiful dresses would be very time-consuming to produce and therefore probably owned only by the rich who could afford to have someone make them. in the case of musicians or dancers who might wear them, they would probably have been owned by the troupe or the owner of the troupe, like any other stage property. That would be my guess, as well. -- Cathy Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] A civilized society is one which tolerates eccentricity to the point of doubtful sanity. --Robert Frost ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The bead-net dress
Penny, I get mine at the local bead shop, but if you Google kevlar beading thread it can be mail ordered for about $2.50 a spool. HTH-- LuAnn - Original Message - From: Penny Ladniermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costumemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] The bead-net dress Luann, Where do you purchase the Kevlar thread? I am dealing with metal beads from the 1920s and scared they might cut the thread. Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.comhttp://www.costumegallery.com/ www.costumelibrary.comhttp://www.costumelibrary.com/ www.costumeclassroom.comhttp://www.costumeclassroom.com/ www.costumeencyclopedia.comhttp://www.costumeencyclopedia.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The bead-net dress
No problem, Penny. I think you'll be pleased with the results. It's not period, of course, but it is effective and doesn't visually detract from the final appearance. LuAnn - Original Message - From: Penny Ladniermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costumemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] The bead-net dress Thank you Luann! Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.comhttp://www.costumegallery.com/ www.costumelibrary.comhttp://www.costumelibrary.com/ www.costumeclassroom.comhttp://www.costumeclassroom.com/ www.costumeencyclopedia.comhttp://www.costumeencyclopedia.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: Checking in from the Pacific NorthWET (and Windy)
Oil lamps and candle lanterns were the order of the day for us as well, or should I say the night. Most of our county (Clark) lost power at some point, but we were only down about three hours. Our first year in the Pacific Northwest about 12 years back, we had a nasty February ice storm that toppled big trees in our neighborhood and left us without power for five days. When it came time to buy the house, I made sure there were NO BIG TREES close enough to fall on us. What I gave up in ambience more than pays off in peace of mind. LuAnn in Vancouver - Original Message - From: Elisabeth Doorninkmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Historical Costume'mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 12:48 PM Subject: RE: [h-cost] OT: Checking in from the Pacific NorthWET (and Windy) We had a large rotten maple tree fall on a row boat owned by my cousin, and our power was out for about 30 minutes. But the tree is going to be a huge mess to clean up. We stayed up for hours watching the light show of transformers - and were very thankful that ours is on the ground and we live on a highway that has a main powerline. We were a bit worried, though, because both our septic field and well are uphill from us...water becomes an issue. Yes, we have a creek and the bay in front of us...but still. Very thankful in Poulsbo for power and praying for those who don't! (Your comment about being a SCAdian made me laugh - we're set because my dad kayaks and has tons of gear!) Quia Christus Perpetuo Regnat, Elisabeth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angharad ver' Reynulf Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 12:07 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] OT: Checking in from the Pacific NorthWET (and Windy) It's been a bit dampish here lately...(mocking grin) and I'm ever so glad that Nick and I went into debt on getting a new roof this year with the wind and rainstorms we've been having. My son has 4 staples in his head from the weather causing an accident at school, but is otherwise ok-and I'll have lots of fence/yard repairs to do, but otherwise we're ok. I have to do this at work, as I have no contact with the outer world at home other than my cell phone. Between that and the problems my baking has been giving me this week, I've come *THIS* close to opening up my pretty purple package from the gift exchange (which arrived 11/23!) instead of waiting until the 23rd for our Yule (Teren goes to his dad's on Xmas Eve for 4 days--we celebrate early instead). Hoping that everyone is fine and enjoying the holidays--I have my Mod books in from the library, and hope to read them on the 25th. Jonnalyhn Wolfcat/ Angharat (very glad she's a SCAdian, and thus has heating and cooking equipment!) Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.comhttp://new.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.19/587 - Release Date: 12/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.19/587 - Release Date: 12/14/2006 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: Checking in from the Pacific NorthWET (and Windy)
If my memory serves, it would have been January or February of 1996. My daughter was born in December of 1991, and we moved here when she was 3 1/2, in the summer of 1995. We only lived at the house in Tigard for a year, so it had to be the winter of 1995/96, and I remember it was after Christmas. Eek, it's hard to get old LuAnn - Original Message - From: Elisabeth Doorninkmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Historical Costume'mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 5:20 PM Subject: RE: [h-cost] OT: Checking in from the Pacific NorthWET (and Windy) Would that have been 1990? Because I was 3 months old during that storm (can you believe it!) and we moved out of the house we were renting for a week to my Grandmother's - we were loosing 5 degrees an hour inside and pack up when the cat's water froze. INSIDE. My grandparents had a stove that the water was plumbed into and the water was gravity fed, so they had it pretty good, even though the transformer blew. Our friends, on the other hand, were housebound for a week due to huge trees. They had a stick penetrate their roof - my dad's picture of it is really amazing. There is just a stick straight through their roof to the inside. It gives me a huge respect for the families that moved here, especially from places like Norway and Finland, where my ancestors lived. They moved here (to the land we live on now) sometime around 1895. To brave the wet and rain and dry in the summer to farm for a living in this rocky soil...amazing. Quia Christus Perpetuo Regnat, Elisabeth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LuAnn Mason Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 5:10 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT: Checking in from the Pacific NorthWET (and Windy) Oil lamps and candle lanterns were the order of the day for us as well, or should I say the night. Most of our county (Clark) lost power at some point, but we were only down about three hours. Our first year in the Pacific Northwest about 12 years back, we had a nasty February ice storm that toppled big trees in our neighborhood and left us without power for five days. When it came time to buy the house, I made sure there were NO BIG TREES close enough to fall on us. What I gave up in ambience more than pays off in peace of mind. LuAnn in Vancouver - Original Message - From: Elisabeth Doorninkmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Historical Costume'mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 12:48 PM Subject: RE: [h-cost] OT: Checking in from the Pacific NorthWET (and Windy) We had a large rotten maple tree fall on a row boat owned by my cousin, and our power was out for about 30 minutes. But the tree is going to be a huge mess to clean up. We stayed up for hours watching the light show of transformers - and were very thankful that ours is on the ground and we live on a highway that has a main powerline. We were a bit worried, though, because both our septic field and well are uphill from us...water becomes an issue. Yes, we have a creek and the bay in front of us...but still. Very thankful in Poulsbo for power and praying for those who don't! (Your comment about being a SCAdian made me laugh - we're set because my dad kayaks and has tons of gear!) Quia Christus Perpetuo Regnat, Elisabeth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angharad ver' Reynulf Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 12:07 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] OT: Checking in from the Pacific NorthWET (and Windy) It's been a bit dampish here lately...(mocking grin) and I'm ever so glad that Nick and I went into debt on getting a new roof this year with the wind and rainstorms we've been having. My son has 4 staples in his head from the weather causing an accident at school, but is otherwise ok-and I'll have lots of fence/yard repairs to do, but otherwise we're ok. I have to do this at work, as I have no contact with the outer world at home other than my cell phone. Between that and the problems my baking has been giving me this week, I've come *THIS* close to opening up my pretty purple package from the gift exchange (which arrived 11/23!) instead of waiting until the 23rd for our Yule (Teren goes to his dad's on Xmas Eve for 4 days--we celebrate early instead). Hoping that everyone is fine and enjoying the holidays--I have my Mod books in from the library, and hope to read them on the 25th. Jonnalyhn Wolfcat/ Angharat (very glad she's a SCAdian, and thus has heating and cooking
Re: [h-cost] Catherine's waist measure
Wow. That's a smaller circumference than a roll of toilet paper. LuAnn - Original Message - From: Rickard, Patty mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costumemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 6:57 AM Subject: RE: [h-cost] Catherine's waist measure When I was 14 (5'2, 90 some pounds) my waist - sucked in, un-corseted was 16 (that was in the days when small waists were a big item) Patty -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Penny Ladnier Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 8:48 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Catherine's waist measure Luann, I understand what you mean. My grand-daughter is thin like yours and one year old. She has food allergies. She is very low in the percentile on the growth chart. I just measured her and she has a 19 waist. I have always thought the adult under 20 waist was a crock. If you look at children's pattern sizes, the waist sizes are larger than 19. http://www.sewingpatterns.com/simplicity-charts2.html#babieshttp://www.sewingpatterns.com/simplicity-charts2.html#babies My DIL said her waist was 20 before having children and was a size 0. She is very petite built. When I was a teenager and very thin, I had a 24 waist. I started sewing with patterns in third grade and do not recall my waist smaller. The Valentine Museum has a lot of corsets in their collection and the smallest waist is one corset at 20. OTOH, The Corset book I mentioned has a chapter that about small waists in the late 1700s or early 1800s. The author took quotes from Parisian magazines/newspapers of young ladies writing the newspapers about their small waist sizes. I took the chapter with a big grain of salt. The author only does this in that one chapter. His style of writing changes completely in this chapter. Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.comhttp://www.costumegallery.com/ www.costumelibrary.comhttp://www.costumelibrary.com/ www.costumeclassroom.comhttp://www.costumeclassroom.com/ www.costumeencyclopedia.comhttp://www.costumeencyclopedia.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Catherine's waist measure
Mine's 17.25. LuAnn - Original Message - From: Robin Nethertonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costumemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Catherine's waist measure On Thu, 9 Nov 2006, LuAnn Mason wrote: Wow. That's a smaller circumference than a roll of toilet paper. You must use different paper than I do! You got me curious and I measured a fresh roll -- 13.25 inches around. --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Catherine's waist measure
Not trying to be difficult, here, but no, not even on a nine year old (says this mom of five kids). I knew the 13 number was ringing a bell for me, but it took a minute for me to remember why. If you check medical charts that compare infants' weight, length and head circumference, you'll see that the measurement for a newborn's head circumference STARTS at 13. STARTS. Like, the kids with the smallest heads who are at risk for microencephaly measure 13 at birth. So picture the smallest, full-term newborn you have ever seen, and it's very likely that their little head was LARGER than this purported 13 measurement. My grandson is not quite two. He is only in the 30th percentile on weight because he's a skinny, bony little dude who is in perpetual motion. We dress him in overalls because pants won't stay up on his non-existant hips and tiny little skinny waist. He measures 20 inches at the waist. LuAnn - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Catherine's waist measure 13 waist? Baloney! If one is 9 years old maybe. It is true that the average person was smaller then than the average person todayand it is also true that girls who grow up wearing corsets and such can stand tight lacing more than girls who grow up in stretch fabrics. But the difference is not that great. I mean a 20 or 21 waist I can see. But 13 is just one inch more than a damn foot! A foot! Plus the function of a corset in this period is not to synch in the waist. It's not the 1890's y'know! Its function is to create the proper smooth conical shape with the breasts compressed a bit. And why is Catherine using inches anyway? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] re: favorite one-period-interprets-another
Oh, fun. I have a Centennial Dress from the 1870's that's a really interesting take on quasi-Colonial. I'm still trying to figure out what they were doing with the flat-fronted skirt that has some really odd seams to make quasi-panniers, and the bias-wrapped elbow-triangles are a hoot. LuAnn in WA - Original Message - From: Cinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: h-costmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 12:32 PM Subject: [h-cost] re: favorite one-period-interprets-another From: Julie [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (My personal favorite one-period-interprets-another is the early 1920s doing American colonial 1770s, complete with the dropped early-20s waist. I actively collect examples of this.) oooh fun topic! I'd like to offer one of our California contenders. In one of the California Missions, there is a fashionable Madonna. Now these missions were established by Spanish Catholic missionaries, over the approximate period 1776-1820s for the most part. One of the delightful Madonnas wears her traditional blue robe... with panniers. grin I believe it's at Mission La Purissima. --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pricing muslin
Boy, I wouldn't pay that for it. If it's utility muslin, I get the 99 cent a yard stuff on a full bolt from JoAnn's, and use a 40% off coupon. Grand total for a 50 yard bolt? Thirty bucks and tax... LuAnn - Original Message - From: Angela F Lazearmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 1:44 PM Subject: [h-cost] pricing muslin Can anyone tell me if purchasing a 15 yard bolt of muslin for $69 is a good deal? It's for theatrical purposes, and we may need a total of 100 plus yards, fairly lightweight transparent muslin. Any help on sourcing appreciated. angela + Angela F. Lazear Cabbage Rose Costumes www.cabbagerosecostumes.comhttp://www.cabbagerosecostumes.com/ Theatrical Costume Design Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none: be able for thine enemy rather in power than use, and keep thy friend under thy own life's key: be checked for silence, but never taxed for speech... W. Shakespeare ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] off topic DVD codes
My recommendation? DVD players are cheap and relatively light. Get a cheap one and have a friend from the US ship it to you, that way you will be covered, instead of trying to figure out DVD coding. Someone on the East Coast could probably get it to you cheaper than I could, but if you want me to track down a cheap WalMart model and shipping, let me know. LuAnn - Original Message - From: Bjarne og Leif Drewsmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 12:38 PM Subject: [h-cost] off topic DVD codes Hello, There are so many nice movies to get from Amerika, but i heard they are specially coded and that your dvd player has to be special coded to show them. How do i find out if my player will take them? Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dkhttp://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/ http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] kid leather binding stays
Bjarne, this place is local for me, but they mail order. They have a nice supply of kid leather in their bridal/specialty department. It's reasonable as well: Mill End Retail Fabric Store (503) 786-1234 9701 SE McLoughlin Blvd Portland, OR 97222 www.millendstore.comhttp://www.millendstore.com/ HTH-- LuAnn in Washington ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] semi-OT: waiting for books
- Original Message - From: Lavolta Pressmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costumemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] semi-OT: waiting for books If more women felt OK about saying what they thought and doing what they wanted, maybe they'd stop trying to get everyone else to conform and lead more productive lives themselves. ** You're wrong--it's nothing whatsoever to do with someone's sex. Pontificating boors are pontificating boors regardless of whether they are male or female. LuAnn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Jealousy, envy desire
Well, the other question is whether or not you can make a family-wage career out of it. I've done custom costuming from home for more than 10 years. While the extra money is nice, it will never, ever be enough to support me completely. Now, the University of Rhode Island had a lovely masters' program in textile conservation that I would have been all over in a shot--were it not for the fact that I live in Washington State and want to continue to live in Washington State. 3,000 miles is a bit too long to commute LuAnn - Original Message - From: Lalahmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costumemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 7:25 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Jealousy, envy desire Heck, fifty years ago I didn't even have a counselor. Women were supposed to be secretaries or teachers. I did both and was a good teacher, and secretary when I did that, but never happy in either field. Luckily, I found other outlets as I grew older. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- REBECCA BURCH [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: REBECCA BURCH [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 06:57:18 -0800 (PST) To: h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Jealousy, envy desire Hello, again. I've been lurking for the past couple of months and wondered if there is anywhere you have bios of list participants stashed? So many of you seem to be doing what I want to do I wonder how you got there. Makes me wish for a time machine so I could go back 30 years and slap the college counselor who told me costume wasn't a career - I should be a secretary or social worker. Any words of wisdom? Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. just the net you need ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re:patterns
And then there's the strange folks like me--I'll buy the cheap modern clothes so I can spend my limited leisure time doing what I love--historical sewing. I don't get any emotional charge out of running up a modern blouse on the serger, but lots of fulfillment in doing fussy work on a period project. My time is limited and so are my resources, so I like to spend both judiciously. LuAnn - Original Message - From: Lalahmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costumemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re:patterns I agree that many people prefer quality clothing, but far too many do not. I made a living as a seamstress for several years before retiring and most of my work was home dec or alterations (I HATE alterations). I have taught several people to sew, but they don't seem to ever have time to do it. And at the weekly auction I attend sewing machines (good ones) go for almost nothing. I learned to sew as a child and most of my clothes have always been made by my mother (when I was young) or by myself. But I am 5'9 and 71 years old. Until girls started growing taller these last few years, I couldn't get anything that came close to fitting in the stores. Anyhow, I am glad there are people designing patterns for period garb that most people who sew at all can use. I usually just make my patterns up as I go along or sort of copy them from Janet Arnold or something. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Lavolta Press [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Lavolta Press [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:26:53 -0800 To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re:patterns What I'm interested in knowing, is how Simplicity chooses patterns--aside from market surveys, don't they do those?--and the people who design them. Is it all freelance? I know someone via the net--or used to, she's not posting any more--who had a small line of reenactment patterns. She approached Simplicity with an idea for a pattern she thought would work well in their historic line. Simplicity told her to work it out and submit it to them on a freelance basis. I don't know what happened with her idea. But is that how all Simplicity's historic patterns are designed, by freelancers? I hate to say this but, the market for general sewing still seems to be much larger than the market for reenactment sewing. Yes, reenactors have to make their own clothes far more than most people. Yes, most women have jobs outside the home that limit their time for sewing. But there are still a lot more mainstream sewers than reenactors. Notice Simplicity hedged their bets on that bustle dress by marketing it as a wedding dress--many people get married, some more than once. Sewing is a hobby these days, not a need, for most people. Many people who could buy an $8 blouse at Wal-Mart, just want something much better quality and more stylish--and they enjoy sewing. Fran Lavolta Press Books of Historic Patterns http://www.lavoltapress.comhttp://www.lavoltapress.com/ Lalah wrote: Just to add to your observations. It is cheaper to buy clothing at WalMart than it is to make it yourself. When you have to pay ten bucks for a pattern and you can buy a blouse for eight dollars guess which most people will do. At a place in time when so many people are so busy and multi tasking is the norm, too many people don't have the time (nor sadly, the ability) to sew. People new to SCA or Ren Faires or re-enacting are the exception. They are not going to get their garb off the rack in a discount store and most of them are not accomplished at making up their own patterns. People like Martha are a godsend to them because they can purchase a pattern that will pass inspection (to all but the really critical) and that they can understand. It takes a bit of experience to deal with some of the period patterns or to work from a charted pattern on a book page. To cut this rambling short, I just want to add my Bravo Martha and hope that Simplicity has sense enough to know what a gem they have! Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. just the net you need ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list
Re: [h-cost] Boning/reeds yet again
Wanda, I used 1/4 flat reeds from Weaving Works in Seattle, and have been really happy. They have a great selection of style and sizes of reeds, and are very reasonable. I spent under $10 for enough reed to do an entire corset, and I'm a woman of fine substantial size. HTH-- LuAnn in Vancouver - Original Message - From: Wanda Peasemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: H-Costumemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 7:16 PM Subject: [h-cost] Boning/reeds yet again I'm bracing myself to do yet another corset with tabs. This time I would like to use something besides steel because the steels that go down into the tabs from the corset itself tend to bend and stay bent. Besides, they are expensive. I happen to have some real whale bone, both as stay size pieces and as an entire frond. The young man who gave me the stays told me don't ask, but I suspect they came from Japan. The small frond I got on E-Bay and came with a certificate that it was gotten pre-ban and legally. I got it mainly so I could have something to show when teaching. Problem is that once you have handled the real thing you aren't going to be impressed with cable ties as a substitute. So reeds/broom straw seems a better answer. I know that several people have used reed successfully. How big? Where did you get it? Either this or maybe a nice broom and lots of quilting thread? I did check the archives, but didn't see exactly what I was looking for. Do I want 1/4 oval, 1.5mm round reed, 1mm round reed? Broom? One reason I particularly want a new corset is because I have done something to my back. On 12th night I knew I was going to be wearing a 35 pound houpeland (BIG Sleeves, Velvet lined with light weight wool, full circle) and was willing to bet my back was not going to be happy. I put on my Tudor corset made from the corset generator pattern with added tabs and was comfortable for 18 hours! I'm beginning to think this is what I want for work as well. I'm pleasingly plump ;-) and a B cup but I have _hips_ (bum roll? what bum roll?) so the tiny waist immediately flairs out to quite substantial hips (weebles wobble, but they don't fall down.) This means that the tabs are a point of considerable strain for any stiffening. Wanda Pease/Regina Romsey Never attribute to malice what can as easily be attributed to simple social ineptness ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] 19th Century sewing apron images?
Hi--I've been wracking my brain (and turning my computer upside down) looking for images I saved a long time ago for women's and children's sewing aprons from ca. 1850-1860. Do these ring a bell for anyone??? I'm recalling rather stylized pinner tops in scallop-ey shapes, with the aprons proper being made of chintz/polished cotton, and some rather elaborate braidwork... All help appreciated. LuAnn who promised to show these to someone and now can't find them anywhere sigh ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
