Re: [h-cost] stains on stored linen?
A soak in Polident helps. Patty -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of annbw...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 5:59 AM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] stains on stored linen? I have had good luck soaking all night in Biz. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Sun, Jun 16, 2013 1:29 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] stains on stored linen? For fruit stains, like that of the raspberry, I find spray-and wash the best thing. It actually fades the stain before it hits the washing machine. Berry stains will indeed turn a nasty shade of gray if washed in ordinary soap without pre-treatment. Don't know about your random stains. Might they have been in the cloth as produced? == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= http://3toad.blogspot.com/ Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW On Jun 15, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Patricia Dunham wrote: We're in the process of sorting, washing-musty-out, and re-packing the fabric stash and have discovered about 5 pieces of mostly-white, mostly-linen that has a FEW, random pink and/or blue-y/black-y spots. We've only really noticed this tonite. Doesn't seem to be occuring on the white cottons (I think). I'm planning to pre-treat with Clorox2, and then cold-launder with Clorox2. Have just had real good luck with that with a cotton bra that got a raspberry down it all day 8-) which stain started pinkish, and then turned sort of blackberry dark blue/black as I tried to wash it out. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Terms for pants
This time of year maybe we should say egglet? Ceit -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Purple Kat Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 2:48 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Terms for pants Aiglet... Katheryne (ducking and giggling) On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:41 PM, cc2010m...@cs.com wrote: Hello! Thank you, everyone! I am happily surprised with the amount of answers! It makes me afraid of asking What do you call that little nibby bit on the end of a shoe lace? Just kidding on that. Henry ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Terms for pants
And let's not forget clam-diggers - similar to either capri pants or pedal-pushers, also from around the 1950s. Patty -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of aqua...@patriot.net Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 4:07 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Terms for pants There was a short fad for knickers in the mid to late 1970s for women. Gauchos were another one, loose pants that ended below the knee - sort of like a split skirt. For both, you might wear them with a blouse and matching vest. Culottes were a skirt/shorts combo, just above the knee. They might have a wide leg or a separate panel for the skirt effect. Sporty, I remember my mom wearing them for golfing. Capri pants are high ankle or low calf length, and are currently fashionable, and were various times back as far as the 1950s. I think of Audrey Hepburn in them. Pedal pushers were long-ish shorts, I think just below the knee? But a regular pants width, not flared and not gathered. I remember them from the 1960s, but could be earlier. -Carol On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Sybella mae...@gmail.com wrote: In the '80s people called pants that ended just below the knee knickers. Assuming you mean 1980s: I recall Capri pants for women,not knickers. Before that, they were peddle pushers. And I think there's at least one other name for them. Knee highs, maybe? It seems every time they come back into fashion, they are called something else. Probably, pedal-pushers as that what my mom called the things they went bicycling in in the 1950s. Also, Knickers strikes me as something an early 20th c golfer or upperclass sport hunter (male) might wear. --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Terms for pants
I guess I should read all the posts before replying - fun memories. Patty -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Rickard, Patty Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:06 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Terms for pants And let's not forget clam-diggers - similar to either capri pants or pedal-pushers, also from around the 1950s. Patty -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of aqua...@patriot.net Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 4:07 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Terms for pants There was a short fad for knickers in the mid to late 1970s for women. Gauchos were another one, loose pants that ended below the knee - sort of like a split skirt. For both, you might wear them with a blouse and matching vest. Culottes were a skirt/shorts combo, just above the knee. They might have a wide leg or a separate panel for the skirt effect. Sporty, I remember my mom wearing them for golfing. Capri pants are high ankle or low calf length, and are currently fashionable, and were various times back as far as the 1950s. I think of Audrey Hepburn in them. Pedal pushers were long-ish shorts, I think just below the knee? But a regular pants width, not flared and not gathered. I remember them from the 1960s, but could be earlier. -Carol On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Sybella mae...@gmail.com wrote: In the '80s people called pants that ended just below the knee knickers. Assuming you mean 1980s: I recall Capri pants for women,not knickers. Before that, they were peddle pushers. And I think there's at least one other name for them. Knee highs, maybe? It seems every time they come back into fashion, they are called something else. Probably, pedal-pushers as that what my mom called the things they went bicycling in in the 1950s. Also, Knickers strikes me as something an early 20th c golfer or upperclass sport hunter (male) might wear. --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] color of a partridge's eye
From Wiki: The name Œil de perdrix means eye of partridge in French, a reference to the pale pink colour of the eye of a partridge in death throes.[1][2 Might refer to this - no DMC color, though, sorry. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of snsp...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:09 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] color of a partridge's eye One of the favorite colors for silk, at least among Jewish brides in Egypt in the 10th-12th centuries was the eye of a partridge. The Arabic word is hagali and is supposed to be a brownish pink. In looking at partridges on-line, I can not find a close-up of a partridge eye. I can see, however, a usually bright orange rim around the eye which, I believe, is not the color that the brides were referring to. Can anyone throw light on this color? Perhaps -- fingers crossed -- a comparable DMC color has been identified? Thank you very much. Nancy Spies ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] color of a partridge's eye
Also this: Spanish term or phrase: Ojo de Gallo From a description of varieties of wine. De tonos que van del fresa al ojo de gallo Berni Armstrong partridge-eye pink Explanation: Of course, there are those wonderful, lovely pale rosados from the southeastern Rioja (from the villages of San Asensio, Cordovin and Badaran) called ojo de Gallo (eye of the cock, known in other places as ***partridge eye roses***). They are a pale, salmon-rust color, reminiscent of Billecart-Salmon rose Champagne. Patty -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of snsp...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:09 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] color of a partridge's eye One of the favorite colors for silk, at least among Jewish brides in Egypt in the 10th-12th centuries was the eye of a partridge. The Arabic word is hagali and is supposed to be a brownish pink. In looking at partridges on-line, I can not find a close-up of a partridge eye. I can see, however, a usually bright orange rim around the eye which, I believe, is not the color that the brides were referring to. Can anyone throw light on this color? Perhaps -- fingers crossed -- a comparable DMC color has been identified? Thank you very much. Nancy Spies ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Puts the burden where it belongs!
Thanks, Lauren, I didn't know that. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Lauren Walker Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 1:15 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Puts the burden where it belongs! PS: By the way, you can often tell if a link is a virus if you mouse-over and the actual URL doesn't match the visible link and/or ends in .exe. Don't click on those! Lauren M. Walker lauren.wal...@comcast.net On Sep 20, 2012, at 11:16 PM, Beteena Paradise wrote: Fran, Perhaps you are unaware that many emails that come with just links are viruses. It only takes a moment to write a sentence or two. It is the current norm for email etiquette. Teena From: Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Puts the burden where it belongs! If you don't want to click on them, don't. Simple as that. Fran On 9/20/2012 6:18 PM, Ginni Morgan wrote: I don't click on bare links without at least a short explanation of where they're going or what they're about, so I agree with Joan on this. What are they? Ginni Morgan Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com 9/20/12 4:34 PM Did you read the articles? Or the link titles? Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com/ On 9/20/2012 4:18 PM, Joan Jurancich wrote: At 08:26 PM 9/16/2012, you wrote: http://www.freakonomics.com/2012/09/07/modesty-glasses/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/08/ultra-orthodox-jews-blurry-glasses_n_1757338.html http://www.modestyglasses.com/index.html Fran Lavolta Press www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress What in the world are these links about? Joan Jurancich joa...@surewest.net ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Liquid soap for hand washing
My mother always used to save the last bits of the Ivory bar put them in a jar with some water. She'd use the goop to hand wash things. Patty -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Genie Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:50 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Liquid soap for hand washing My mother and I both have used Ivory soap. Shred the bar and a little goes a long way. -Original Message- From: Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com Sent: Aug 20, 2012 2:50 PM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Liquid soap for hand washing What's everyone using for hand washing clothes? I hand wash my modern lingerie, some delicate modern clothes, and vintage clothes. I am not looking for an archival product. I am wondering if I should switch from Woolite, although for no special reason, really. Fran Lavolta Press Books of historic clothing patterns www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Liquid soap for hand washing
Orvus is great! Get at an animal supply place for the best price (although a little goes a LONG way) Patty -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Lavolta Press Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 3:50 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] Liquid soap for hand washing What's everyone using for hand washing clothes? I hand wash my modern lingerie, some delicate modern clothes, and vintage clothes. I am not looking for an archival product. I am wondering if I should switch from Woolite, although for no special reason, really. Fran Lavolta Press Books of historic clothing patterns www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Thread- reluctant switcher needs suggestions
Well, having used silk thread on a cotton garment having had it pull its way through the fabric, I can attest to at least one misuse. (the silk matched better, that's all I can say) Patty -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Collier Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 2:59 AM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] Thread- reluctant switcher needs suggestions On a related note, I heard that using the wrong type of thread can damage the fabric. Anyone ever hear of this and/or have more info? Sharon C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Grrrrr ... !
You can still get Argo starch at Lehman's Hardware in Kidron, OH (or mail order) http://www.lehmans.com/store/Home_Goods___Laundry___Washing___Argo_Laundry_Starch___1074030#1074030 Patty I know I haven't been able to find starch in any store for a long time now--won't touch spray starch. And my mother can't understand why I stock up on things when I find them! I have to get around to ordering some Srgo starch to try before the summer starching season. My supermarket now doesn't carry dyes, just color remover. Katy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] beginner sewing machine
Was that the one that would actually do round buttonhole? Patty since I moved from my mom's early 1950s Singer with the nifty buttonhole foot accessory. That was a wonder! Lynn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] beginner sewing machine
I had one of those assumed that that all machines did it. Woe unto me when I got a new machine had to make eyelet holes by hand. Probably better in any case, but I wasn't a stickler for authenticity in the old days. Patty Yes it did, and I couldn't figure out (then) why anyone would need a round buttonhole. Now I can think of several uses for it. Lynn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1958 prom dress
Left shoulder - no waltzing? Patty Left shoulder corsage. And no, tacky. Audy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Winter flowers for New England?
What about winterberry (deciduous holly: Ilex verticillata) berries? Patty -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Marjorie Wilser Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 7:22 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] Winter flowers for New England? Hi List, I am writing about a winter wedding in 1830 New England. What might a bride carry in lieu of a bouquet? My fuzzy California brain remembers/ guesses something like bittersweet, which I assume is a woody herb? It might be imported orange blossoms, but I think those are later. In need of floral costuming, == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW http://3toad.blogspot.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] salt shopping
Hey Mary, Did you check for Kosher salt? (Maybe it's more expensive now, too.) Ceit -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Mary + Doug Piero Carey Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 7:22 AM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] salt shopping Fran said: If you are asking where to buy uniodized salt, I just get it at the local supermarket. Well, that's what I did the last time, but this year, several of the local stores didn't have any uniodized salt, and the ones that did were charging premium prices for it! Mary ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Salt Source
Kosher salt works - most supermarkets carry it in larger boxes as well Patty -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Lavolta Press Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 7:48 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Salt Source If you are asking where to buy uniodized salt, I just get it at the local supermarket. Fran Lavolta Press Books on making historic clothing www.lavoltapress.com On 10/30/2011 4:21 PM, Mary + Doug Piero Carey wrote: Yep, dyeing. I've got a batch of stuff I want to overdye black. Mary ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] mystery term
I found this... Full text of Modern dancing / by Mr. and Mrs. Vernon Castle ... www.archive.org/stream/danceman240/danceman240.txt The Hesitation Waltz-The Waltz Walk- 66 V. The Tango Argentine-The .. that flare out full at the hem of the skirt to give the wearer room to dance; ... One might go on indefinitely telling of these things; of the return to fashion of the ankle-length skirt and of the new Paris frocks that flare out full at the hem of the skirt to give the wearer room to dance; of the new lingerie, in which everything is combined in one garment, easily slipped on, so that every muscle of the body may have full play for the lithe and lovely measures of the Innovation Waltz, the One Step, and other favorite dances. Patty Hi-- Thanks to all who've tried to help on this one! Astrida ___ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] help identifying picture
Cheezburger.com is a site which among other things allows you to to modify pics (they call them lol builders) - usually with humorous results. patty -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of monica spence Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 3:35 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] help identifying picture I'd guess it is Victorian or even 20thCentury. The Renaissance era paintings I've seen seemed to always have the sitter looking out at the viewer. Here you don't see her eyes at all. Creepy. Monica Spence -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of humbugfo...@att.net Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 3:15 PM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] help identifying picture Has anybody ever seen this before? http://images.cheezburger.com/imagestore/2010/9/9/330d9013-0b7f-468b-9c3a-b2 2044bb4e02.jpg It seems to me it's clearly a Victorian or later representation of a Renaissance style, either Italian or German. But I've never seen it before and have no idea where it came from. Can anyone help? Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Azalea Trail Maids: Antebellum Costumes
Or as covers for the extra toilet paper roll sitting on the toilet tank. patty -Original Message- Subject: Re: [h-cost] Azalea Trail Maids: Antebellum Costumes That line of them makes me think of those dolls that were a craft craze years ago that you'd see in the back windshield of cars Kate Pinner ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] the Tudors deal of the day from Amazon
Sorry, I just didn't think! The DVD set was offered at half price I thought that some of the list folk might be interested. Patty -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Franchesca Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:10 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] the Tudors deal of the day from Amazon With all the crappy spam one link emails that have been happening lately I really have to ask if folks could please put a relevant to us description with the URL's and not just send URL's. Is this really a link to Amazon? If so, what is the description other than what is in the email title? What is so great about it that it is being posted to the h-costume list? That kinda description. :) Franchesca : -Original Message- : From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume- : boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Rickard, Patty : Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:12 AM : To: Historical Costume (h-cost...@indra.com) : Subject: [h-cost] the Tudors deal of the day from Amazon : : http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0042RJWTC/ref=xs_gb_AHTP3DW99WRAD?pf_r : d_p=441937901pf_rd_s=right- : 1pf_rd_t=701pf_rd_i=20pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_r=146WNTH3 : QRNHNTQ2M5QW : ___ : h-costume mailing list : h-costume@mail.indra.com : http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] the Tudors deal of the day from Amazon
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Re: [h-cost] some questions about renaissance,
Sorry I don't have helpful information, but it's great to hear from you! Patty -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Leif og Bjarne Drews Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 10:25 AM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] some questions about renaissance, Hello the list, its long time since last. I have ben asked to make some renaissance costumes for a shool projekt at a danish castle. the teachers are going to be dressed up in renaissance costumes, a man and a woman. They work at a danish castle wich is a museum. I am going to start this projekt in july. In some danish inventory lists, wich all are written in german ( it was the language used then in Denmark) it is often mentioned with wide dresses and narrow dresses. My question is, could a narrow dress be the same as the english word “a kirtle” Its hopeless with danish study of danish renaissance costumes, because nobody knows the danish terms for different costumes (costume parts) No danish words for anything except the major things like ruffs, cuffs and the like. Another question i have for you is: wich fabric would you recomend to use when i make ruffs and cuffs? They should be able to wash them often, and i thoaght about maybe using a synthetic fabric wich will hold the shape, and dont need to be ironed, or perhaps to use silk organza, as this also is stiff and keeps the shape. Any suggestions and any help would be greatfull apreciated. Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Shoe glue
I use a product called Shoe Goo. Patty -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of mims...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:57 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Shoe glue I have a gorgeous pair of child's cowboy boots that are at least 50 years old, but the upper is separating from the sole at the heel. A good 3 inches is no longer attached. A shoemaker is not within a manageable distance for me. Would I be successful tackling this myself? If so, what sort of glue do I need to look for? Thanks for any advice. Siobhan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: skin tone mesh long sleeved shirt
Need it be mesh? - skin toned leotards should be easy to find. http://www.fromthetopdancewear.com/store/product.php?productid=16492 http://www.amazon.com/Capezio-Womens-Long-Sleeve-Leotard/dp/B002XULQ8K/ref=pd_sbs_a_3 patty Subject: [h-cost] OT: skin tone mesh long sleeved shirt Good afternoon, This is slightly off topic, but at the moment my google seaching skills are totally failing me. I'm trying to find a skin-tone mesh top of the kind that would be worn with a stage costume; but I would prefer a long-sleeved shirt (even better if it buttons at the crotch) to buying fabric and having to sew it myself. Thank you! Audrey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: skin tone mesh long sleeved shirt
Try mesh body suits. http://www.urbanoutfitters.com/urban/catalog/productdetail.jsp?id=20114187CAWELAID=728198087 Patty -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Audrey Bergeron-Morin Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 3:13 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] OT: skin tone mesh long sleeved shirt Good afternoon, This is slightly off topic, but at the moment my google seaching skills are totally failing me. I'm trying to find a skin-tone mesh top of the kind that would be worn with a stage costume; but I would prefer a long-sleeved shirt (even better if it buttons at the crotch) to buying fabric and having to sew it myself. Does such a thing exist? And if it does, where can I start looking? Right now I find absolutely nothing and I simply can't believe that nobody else has a need for something similar. Thank you! Audrey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: skin tone mesh long sleeved shirt
What about this? http://www.mydivascloset.com/nyllonsleevb.html -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Audrey Bergeron-Morin Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 3:30 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT: skin tone mesh long sleeved shirt If it's not mesh, it would need to match my skin tone REALLY closely... mesh is more forgiving. But thanks for the links! On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Rickard, Patty ricka...@mountunion.eduwrote: Need it be mesh? - skin toned leotards should be easy to find. http://www.fromthetopdancewear.com/store/product.php?productid=16492 http://www.amazon.com/Capezio-Womens-Long-Sleeve-Leotard/dp/B002XULQ8K/ref=pd_sbs_a_3 patty Subject: [h-cost] OT: skin tone mesh long sleeved shirt Good afternoon, This is slightly off topic, but at the moment my google seaching skills are totally failing me. I'm trying to find a skin-tone mesh top of the kind that would be worn with a stage costume; but I would prefer a long-sleeved shirt (even better if it buttons at the crotch) to buying fabric and having to sew it myself. Thank you! Audrey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] his blue coat
Wiki quote: Classification as a spectral color Indigo was defined as a spectral color by Sir Isaac Newton when he divided up the optical spectrum, which has a continuum of wavelengths. He specifically named seven colors primarily to match the seven notes of a western major scale,[5] because he believed sound and light were physically similar, and also to link colors with the days of the week,[citation needed] and other lists that had seven items. The human eye is relatively insensitive to hue changes in the wavelengths between blue and violet, where Newton defined indigo to be; most individuals do not distinguish indigo from blue and violet. For this reason, some commentators, including Isaac Asimov,[citation needed] hold that indigo should not be regarded as a color in its own right, but merely as a hue of blue or violet. Color scientists typically divide the spectrum at about 450 nm between violet and blue, with no indigo.[2][6] Others continue to accept it,[7] as it has been accepted traditionally as one of Newton's named colors of the spectrum along with red, orange, yellow, green, blue, and violet. Patty (1) Indigo does seem to be a true blue (i.e. not greenish or purplish). So how id the word indigo come to be applied to the shade between blue and violet in he rainbow? (At least the way I learned it: red, orange, yellow, green, blue, ndigo, violet) As to this question, it seems to be Sir Isaac Newton who so named the colors of the spectrum--violet, indigo, blue, green, yellow, orange, red. So one has to wonder what his standard was for true blue. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] vintage dress washing question
I use a polident soak for stains on linen. Patty -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of WorkroomButtons.com Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 3:09 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] vintage dress washing question My daughter dropped chocolate on a handwoven antique linen tablecloth (don't ask). I soaked it in baby shampoo and Oxy-Clean, and machine washed VERY gently. Excellent results! Linen isn't cotton, but perhaps the same treatment would be effective (assuming, as Ann mentioned, it is strong enough to withstand getting wet). Dede O'Hair ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Please note that Mount Union’s campus e-mail addresses have changed from usern...@muc.edu to usern...@mountunion.edu. The username has not changed – only the domain. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] white and red cotton
There're also traditional prohibitions (at least in the Jewish tradition) against mixing fibers. Patty On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 1:44 PM, snsp...@aol.com wrote: You must not mix new cotton with old nor red cotton with white. p. 89 What does he mean by red cotton? It seems reasonable that he means the same thing I mean when I sort my clothes before doing the laundry... -E House Please note that Mount Union’s campus e-mail addresses have changed from usern...@muc.edu to usern...@mountunion.edu. The username has not changed – only the domain. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: Christmas Decorations
Do you have access to hickory nuts? Patty so I have to come up with something else for the small white flowers. If you have a suggestion, please pass it along to me. Hopefully, I will photograph my progress of making the wreath. Penny Ladnier, owner Please note that Mount Union’s campus e-mail addresses have changed from usern...@muc.edu to usern...@mountunion.edu. The username has not changed – only the domain. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: Christmas Decorations
Cranberries Patty From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of otsisto . De: What are the berries? ___ Please note that Mount Union’s campus e-mail addresses have changed from usern...@muc.edu to usern...@mountunion.edu. The username has not changed – only the domain. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Travelling to the US in March 2011
If you're up for another short hop (it's about 600 miles from SB to Williamsburg.) Patty There's a Regency ball in South Bend, IN on March 26. I went last year, and it was lovely! http://regencymasqueradeball.blogspot.com/ Emily On 11/21/2010 7:44 PM, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden wrote: Does anyone know if there are any other historical costuming or dance events on in March that I can add to my itinerary? Bye for now, Aylwen Garden Please note that Mount Union’s campus e-mail addresses have changed from usern...@muc.edu to usern...@mountunion.edu. The username has not changed – only the domain. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] FW: [Alderfolk] Fashion Crisis!
Comments? Thanks, Ceit To: Marche of Alderford Subject: [Alderfolk] Fashion Crisis! OK my SCAdian family...I have a book by Tom Tierney on Celtic Fashions. What I would like to know is how reputable is this source? What I am looking for is Irish Celt in the 6th Century. I really like the style on the cover but the illustration states Frankish Celts, ca 450 B.C. PeaceDub Essa/Cliodhna ___ Please note that Mount Union's campus e-mail addresses have changed from usern...@muc.edu to usern...@mountunion.edu. The username has not changed - only the domain. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pseudo historic costume
Well - to my mind your daughter looks much better! Patty Sadly (for us), the girl behind her won the class Denise B Iowa Please note that Mount Union's campus e-mail addresses have changed from usern...@muc.edu to usern...@mountunion.edu. The username has not changed - only the domain. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Gray Line Linen
I keep getting a processing error when I try to access their site. patty Ladies Gents, Those of you who've bought from Gray Line Linen: http://www.graylinelinen.com/home/, Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com Please note that Mount Union's campus e-mail addresses have changed from usern...@muc.edu to usern...@mountunion.edu. The username has not changed - only the domain. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Gray Line Linen
Thanks! -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Pixel, Goddess and Queen Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:46 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gray Line Linen Yeah, it looks like their web server is broken. Hopefully their web store people are on it. Jen On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Rickard, Patty wrote: I keep getting a processing error when I try to access their site. patty Ladies Gents, Those of you who've bought from Gray Line Linen: http://www.graylinelinen.com/home/, Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Please note that Mount Union's campus e-mail addresses have changed from usern...@muc.edu to usern...@mountunion.edu. The username has not changed - only the domain. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Leather cleaning
I've cleaned a lot of leather (saddles bridles) - and most all the cleaners say not to use them on suede. For the leather part you could use either glycerine saddle soap or a product like Lexol's Leather Cleaner, which works well and doesn't stain or darken leather, or leave a residue. A combination of Murphy's Oil Soap mixed with olive oil at a one to one ratio works for cleaning plain leather, but not for suede. For suede, I've used a rubber eraser a suede brush (little metal comb/brush thingy). This sounds like it would be time consuming on patchwork, so maybe a dry cleaner with experience in suede would be worth the investment. Patty From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Robin Netherton [ro...@netherton.net] Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 2:21 PM To: Historic Costume List Subject: [h-cost] Leather cleaning I have acquired a secondhand jacket of leather-and-suede patchwork in reds and blacks. It's in excellent shape -- leather is supple and seams are all intact -- but it could use some cleaning (nothing major, just the sort of grime that comes around cuffs and corners with routine wear). I know nothing about cleaning leather, and I also know both red and black dyes are prone to bleeding, running, and other ills. What's the safest way to get this cleaned? If I take it to a cleaners, is there a particular specialty treatment I should look for? If I do it myself, is there a particular product or approach that would be best? --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Please note that Mount Union's campus e-mail addresses have changed from usern...@muc.edu to usern...@mountunion.edu. The username has not changed - only the domain. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Look at this photo YIPPEE!!!
Whoo hoo - what fun! -Original Message- the historian look them over. This is what he said: It's funny that the tinted stereoviews you just purchased happen to be 1850s from the United Kingdom. Well, you have the earliest examples of stereoviews, really. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history Please note that Mount Union's campus e-mail addresses have changed from usern...@muc.edu to usern...@mountunion.edu. The username has not changed - only the domain. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Dolly Varden, was Victorian gown?
There's also a trout by that name: In his book, Inland Fishes of California, Peter Moyle recounts a letter sent to him on March 24, 1974 from Mrs Valerie Masson Gomez: My grandmother's family operated a summer resort at Upper Soda Springs on the Sacramento River just north of the present town of Dunsmuir, California. She lived there all her life and related to us in her later years her story about the naming of the Dolly Varden trout. She said that some fishermen were standing on the lawn at Upper Soda Springs looking at a catch of the large trout from the McCloud River that were called 'calico trout' because of their spotted, colorful markings. They were saying that the trout should have a better name. My grandmother, then a young girl of 15 or 16, had been reading Charles Dickens' Barnaby Rudge in which there appears a character named Dolly Varden; also the vogue in fashion for women at that time (middle 1870s) was called Dolly Varden, a dress of sheer figured muslin worn over a bright-colored petticoat. My grandmother had just gotten a new dress in that style and the red-spotted trout reminded her of her printed dress. She suggested t! o the men looking down at the trout, 'Why not call them Dolly Varden?' They thought it a very appropriate name and the guests that summer returned to their homes (many in the San Francisco Bay area) calling the trout by this new name. David Starr Jordan, while at Stanford University, included an account of this naming of the Dolly Varden Trout in one of his books. Patty Message: 11 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:36:32 -0800 From: K?the Barrows kay...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] victorian gown? Carolyn Kayta Barrows Actually, Dolly Varden is a character in Dickens' Barnaby Rudge, a historical novel set in London in 1780, so just a little after what you would call colonial! The play must have been based on it. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Carved busks
Actually, they're different families: privet Any of about 40 - 50 species of shrubs and small trees in the genus Ligustrum of the olive family that are widely used for hedges, screens, and ornamental plantings. Native to Europe, Asia, Australia, and the Mediterranean, these evergreen or deciduous plants have usually oval, smooth-edged leaves; creamy-white, often odorous clusters of flowers; and black berries. The hardy common privet (L. vulgare), native to northeastern Europe and Britain and naturalized in northeastern North America, is used widely as a hedge plant. Mock privets belong to the genus Phillyrea (same family) and bear small, bright-red fruits that turn purple-black as they mature Boxwood hard, heavy, fine-grained wood, usually white or light yellow, that is obtained from the box (Buxus sempervirens) and other small trees of the genus Buxus; about 30 species of shrubby evergreen plants are in the family Buxaceae. Boxwood also refers to many other woods with a similar density and grain, such as Venezuelan boxwood, or zapatero (Gossypiospermum praecox), a South American tree of the family Flacourtiaceae; West Indian boxwood, a North American lumber trade name for wood from two tropical American trees, Phyllostylon brasiliensis of the family Ulmaceae and Tabebuia pentaphylla of the family Bignoniaceae; and a number of woods from Australian trees in the genera Eucalyptus and Tristania (family Myrtaceae), Alyxia (family Apocynaceae), and Murraya (family Rutaceae). -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Käthe Barrows Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 12:56 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Carved busks A gardener told me that privet, like for hedges and ornamental bushes, is the same as boxwood. Boxwood has a buttery-fine grain for carving, so it can take lots of little detail. I keep thinking busks could be made of pruned pieces from a privet hedge. Saw this at Christies and thought some folks here might be interested in seeing them: http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?from=searchresultspos=7intObjectID=5294329sid=81e2b2ef-e60b-4c2f-9764-2cd79e81f850 They have an auction this month with several carved Welsh busks. -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- The future is already here, it is just unevenly distributed. -William Gibson -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Carved busks
They don't care if you know their names or not. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Käthe Barrows Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 3:59 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Carved busks Me and my brown thumb. I do know privet has a nice carving grain, said gardener having provided me with some small logs of it which he pruned from someplace. Thanks for the clarification. Actually, they're different families: privet Boxwood -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- The future is already here, it is just unevenly distributed. -William Gibson -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What is this woman making?
Ah - and here I thought it was a sewing sorority. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Laura Rubin Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 2:44 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] What is this woman making? I believe that's the Swedish national costume or court dress... Argh, I can't recall where I heard about it, but it may have been Bjarne Drew's site. Basically the ladies are all in 18thc versions of Renaissance gowns, and the gents are all in black piped with red... except for some people who are in black with blue, or red with blue, or blue and white. This is my lack of bookmarks speaking. :\ I believe this was instituted by the monarch at the time. -Laura ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] ribbons
(Signature line had a blog link in it) Patty I never did see an actual post on ribbons... and had wondered where the comments came from, as I saw nothing at all in the post but your signature line. What was your ribbon question? Kimiko Small http://www.kimiko1.com Be the change you want to see in the world. ~ Ghandi The Tudor Lady's Wardrobe pattern http://www.margospatterns.com/ From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com considering my post was about ribbons. . . but still! Thank you!) == Marjorie Wilser ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] ribbons
Ah, Marjorie, I am so sorry about your dear Miss Underfoot. I lost my furry companion of 12 years, Magpie (Miss Maggie, Maggi-kins, Magpuss...) in December, too. I have a wonderful vet as well I am so glad that we can do this for our fur-friends, but it is so very hard. Patty From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Marjorie Wilser [the3t...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 4:03 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] ribbons == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW http://3toad.blogspot.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] laundry implements was RE: OT regional English for mangle
-Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Dunham Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:27 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT regional English for mangle Yes, I remember the damping bag; I think my mother used a pillow case as often as a plastic bag. Anybody here remember the Coke bottle with the sprinkler spout, for spot dampening AS you were ironing? http://www.rubylane.com/shops/packratemporium/item/59 I remember the damping bag also the sprinkler spout. We also had a rack with hooks to stretch sheer curtains to dry. Patty chimene ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] where has all the velvet gone? (rant)
I've had good luck with Aurora for dyestuffs. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Audrey Bergeron-Morin Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:53 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] where has all the velvet gone? (rant) Aurora has very nice stuff and I've heard good things about them from a few people on various lists. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Dye Color
H again - must be free-range yolks.:-) ...of fustic in relation to the concentration of kermes you'd get orange rather than yolk yellow. Jen/pixel/Margaret ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] pressing mangle RE: An amusing error?
My mother had a machine that she called a mangle. There was a bottom piece on which you placed damp clothing or sheets (after the wringer), and a top piece which heated up (electrically, I think). You could fold shirts and place them on the bottom surface, or you could have it roll sheets or other flat things through. You brought the top down - it was essentially a large iron. Huge amounts of steam. Patty -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Collier Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 4:57 AM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] An amusing error? Right, it's not an ironing device, but something to wring out clothes. You'd have thought the author would have done his homework! -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Charlene Charette Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:37 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] An amusing error? Mangle is the British term for what Americans call a wringer. --Charlene On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com wrote: I am reading a book, What Jane Austen Ate and Charles Dickens Knew and in the part about laundry, the author says, This made laundry day such a chore that many better-off households hired a washerwoman to do it, since immense amounts of water had to be boiled, the clothes blued and starched by hand, ironed, and then put through a mangle, a tablelike contraption with two rollers through which you rolled the clothing until it was pressed. I would hate to have him doing my laundry! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Bikes can't stand alone because they're two-tired. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning, and running repairs - was an amusing error
I should remember to read the rest of the posts before I answer. Yes, that's what my mother had - 1050s Ohio. Patty My mother had an ironing mangle (electric) in the 1950s in New Jersey. I loved watching that thing work (only my mother was allowed to run it--because, yes, it had its dangers). Tablecloths and drapessmooth as glass. --Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy and amateur costumer ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] OT regional english for mangle was RE: Washing, irioning, and running repairs - was an amusing error
Does anyone have a copy of the Dictionary of American Regional English to check? Patty (from NE Ohio who grew up with an ironing mangle (and a wringer washer)) I have to put in my 2 cents - I never heard of an ironing kind of mangle until recently- my first association is that a mangle is the wringer part that goes over the washing tub. I grew up in western PA, perhaps that helps? So, I am always surprised when somebody is selling a flat bed iron and calls it a mangle. -Megan ___ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Christmas Squeee!
Whoo hoo -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Mary + Doug Piero Carey Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 12:09 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Christmas Squeee! Dear Hubby gave me Patterns of Fashion 4 Costume in Detail! Unmoderated Glee! Maria from Alderford aka Mary Piero Carey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Have you seen this magazine cover?
Seems to be April 8, 1928 Seems as if it's after Feb 1928, so best bet is to find out what month Easter, 1928 might be. Obviously the February cover shown here isn't a bride :) == Marjorie Wilser ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What would St. Patrick wear?
From these sites it seems that it might be common dress or an alb. http://www.celticgarb.org/clothing/main.html http://www.anglican.org.au/index.cfm?SID=2SSID=4PID=20 http://books.google.com/books?id=9fgkAb0rhcoCpg=PA466lpg=PA466dq=fifth+century+bishop+clothingsource=blots=RRHDPmHIxksig=TlK26EvvxtxkjWm-J2Sepazxu8Uhl=enei=UMvpSpaWLtG7lAfSlsX_BAsa=Xoi=book_resultct=resultresnum=2ved=0CBIQ6AEwATgU#v=onepageq=fifth%20century%20bishop%20clothingf=false Patty What would Patrick wear? Fifth century bishops are outside of my usual research area and simple googling is getting me websites of the faithful and not actual research. Any suggestion? Mary ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] long 'hair' for a lion costume
I think the list strips attachments. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of landofoz Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 1:55 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] long 'hair' for a lion costume Sorry, can't recall who posted the question about trying to find long 'hair' for a lion costume. I replied at the time that I'd lucked into some human hair wefts on sale locally for my Aslan. Have since completed the costume and thought you might enjoy seeing how the wig and mane turned out. The cost was about $40 (the fur for the jacket was extra). Where can we see this? do you have a web link or ?? Denise ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Vinegar, yuck!
Tea leaves are also a good deodorizer. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Michelle Plumb Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:35 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Vinegar, yuck! Might it be the dye? Woad supposedly stinks to high heaven, maybe this is related. If baking soda doesn't work, soak in cheap vodka, as many use it as a deodorizer. And I have both in the house, so I'll give that a try. Thanks to you both, Kimiko and Sharon! Michelle ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Viking alternate history--14thC/15thC Vinland?
-Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Chris Laning On Sep 30, 2009, at 9:18 AM, cbellfl...@aol.com wrote: I wonder whether bark-based fibers or pounded-bark cloth might have been possibilities. If Native Americans made cord (which I'm sure they did) then there must have been *some* sources of fiber available. I wonder whether bark-based fibers or pounded-bark cloth might have been possibilities. If Native Americans made cord (which I'm sure they did) then there must have been *some* sources of fiber available. Dogbanes/Indian hemp Apocynum family for one. Patty O (Dame) Christian de Holacombe, OL - Shire of Windy Meads +Kingdom of the West - Chris Laning clan...@igc.org http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Madeleine Albright's Jewelry-Box Diplomacy
Interesting - I was at Border's just after I heard the NPR thing had a chance ot see the book as well. Patty Did anyone hear the NPR chat Madeleine Albright's Jewelry-Box Diplomacy (see also the article by the same name at http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=113278807sc=fbcc=fp). Speaking thru clothes... it just doesnt end. --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] cloak or woman's outer garment for 15th century
How strictly 15th c.? Could you do something like a Tudor loose gown? -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Zuzana Kraemerova Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 1:35 PM To: h-costume Subject: [h-cost] cloak or woman's outer garment for 15th century Hello, I recently discovered that I need to make myself a warm cloak or outer garment for reenacting events for the 15th century. I was wondering about something like garnache - a warm outer garment with sleeves. Cloaks are much less practical. But the trouble is, I cannot find any sort of such outer garment for 15th century women! Does any of you know of some illustrations or written evidence that would help me? Time and location doesn't matter much as anything will help me, but if you insist, I'm acting as a mid 15th century middle class woman from France. Thanks a lot! Zuzana ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] HELP!
Even if there's not projector distortion, there's the problem (since various parts of the body do not increase in size at the same rate between sizes) that an enlargement to fit the bust, for example, may make the armscye, for example, too large, too small, or in the wrong place. It's a place to start, though. Patty From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Kimiko Small [sstormwa...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 4:28 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] HELP! I did that once with a transparency. The only issue is that in some overhead projectors, there is a distortion along the edges, so what may be accurate in the middle, will end up slightly larger at the edges, so you have to keep the image you are drawing in the middle of the field. You can also get a book projector at the craft store to transfer an image directly from a book, but again, check for distortion along the edge. If I must, I prefer to grid up directly from a book onto gridded pattern paper by hand. But then gridded paper are not all that accurate either but decently close. Now I've been draping onto the body instead, but that does take some good book or good teacher to help learn. Kimiko Kimiko Small http://www.kimiko1.com Be the change you want to see in the world. ~ Ghandi Coming soon: The Tudor Lady's Wardrobe http://www.margospatterns.com/ From: Maggie maggi...@gmail.com It's also possible to make a transparency of the pattern page, then put it on an overhead projector and project it on to paper or a sheet on the ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Costume College
Spellcheckers - always the cheap drunk. Patty By the by, my spell checker suggests farthing ales for farthingales! -- Kathleen ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pennsic
That would be fun! -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Dianne Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 3:10 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Pennsic I'll be in N22 - around the corner under a tree from Dianne. Ceit We have a metric buttload of common space in our camp, and it's fairly central and easy to find. I'd be happy to host an h-costume gathering one evening during War Week. Dianne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pennsic
I'll be in N22 - around the corner under a tree from Dianne. Ceit -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Dianne Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:39 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Pennsic I'll be at Pennsic--my very first one! I'll be staying down at Willow Point. Kerri-Ellen a/k/a Lady Margrett Norwoode I'll be in N03 (right down the road from Pennsic University) with House Gallowglass. Dianne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Virginia Women's Colleges in the 1960's - definitely pre-hippie
So you did not get to yell man on the floor! with the inevitable reply pick him up - how sad. (Fathers helping daughters move in) Patty The state college I attended in the early 90's still does not allow men in the women's dorm. Period. Times change, but not everywhere. And I shudder to think that clothes I wore in high school are now considered vintage. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1960 hippie fashion
Besides, admit it - it was fun. Patty -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Downward Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 8:28 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] 1960 hippie fashion you were stealthy!?! I should have tried that; maybe my mother and the principal wouldn't have been on a first-name basis. My mom - bless her - said that as long as my grades were good I could wear whatever I wanted within the sense of decency (although she would have kept me in the sweater sets she bought me in elementary school if she could have). Actually, we had to be uppity and strident - it was the time for it and we needed to be heard as people, not just girls. It may not have won us fans in the administration but they finally heard us. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Virginia Women's Colleges in the 1960's - definitely pre-hippie
And late minutes - don't forget those. (number of minutes you signed back in after curfew - other restrictions if you had too many) Dinner was family style you couldn't go in until you had 8 people. Calls of we need 2 for dinner in the hallways. Patty -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of cbellfl...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:11 AM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Virginia Women's Colleges in the 1960's - definitely pre-hippie Of course!? So could we. From 2:00 to 4:00 on Sunday afternoon.? Doors open.? Feet on the floor.? Housemother wandering the halls.? And they had to sign in at the desk in the lobby.? Catherine -Original Message- From: Beth Chamberlain bcham...@suffolk.lib.ny.us (Of course by then we could have men in our rooms too - thank you to the women of the 70's for that.)? ? Beth? ? ? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Virginia Women's Colleges in the 1960's - definitely pre-hippie
You to wait until enough other people showed up. (Unless there was no one else in line) -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Collier Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 3:05 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] Virginia Women's Colleges in the 1960's - definitely pre-hippie What happened if you didn't get 8? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Research problems WAS: Primary source for Elizabethan pillbox hats sought
All we could find (and we considered it a find) was Norris. :-) Back in 1971 when I joined the SCA nobody had Janet Arnold. But thanks to (I think) Dover, we could get Wilcox. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions - Nehru?
We were big into ponchos - and big floppy hats. From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Maggie [maggi...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:08 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions - Nehru? Maggie Secara ~A Compendium of Common Knowledge 1558-1603 Available at your favorite online bookseller See our gallery at http://www.zazzle.com/popinjaypress On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 12:14 PM, cbellfl...@aol.com wrote: I don't think anyone has mentioned fringed vests, yet.? And ponchos.? You see those in TV and movies as a cultural reference to hippies, but I never knew anyone who had either. I was a college freshman in the fall of 1968. I did have a beautiful suede vest that I wore for several years, but I never had a lot of money for clothes, trendy or otherwise. I know a lot of real hippie wear came from charity shops, and the fancy stuff came from Hollywood designers. MaggiRos ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Villager shirtwaists
;-) From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Downward [lynndownw...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 8:16 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Villager shirtwaists yes, but we were thinner then! LynnD ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions
Were you in the Midwest? From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Sylvia Rognstad [syl...@ntw.net] Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 8:29 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions What do you mean by that? I definitely experienced the 60s in the 60s. Sylvia On Jul 4, 2009, at 6:22 PM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 7/4/2009 7:37:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sovag...@cybermesa.com writes: [who thinks it is true that the Sixties mostly happened in the Seventies] Oh, absolutely. Ann Wass **Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood0005) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions
Just meant that in the midwest (where I was) the 60's probably started and ended later than on the coasts. From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of annbw...@aol.com [annbw...@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 6:44 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions In a message dated 7/5/2009 6:41:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ricka...@muc.edu writes: Were you in the Midwest? Don't know if this was aimed at me, but yes, I was--lived in the close-in suburbs of St. Louis, Missouri. Ann wass **Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood0005) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Primary source for Elizabethan pillbox hats sought
So I'll go away and lurk again, because I can't seem to talk tactfully enough not to cause upsets, no matter how hard I try. It's always happening, has done forever, it's me and not anyone else. chimene I think it's called email - We are such visual folks, if we can't see the face body language, it messes us up, and, people being what we are, we feel attacked. Patty ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions
Wow, man, flashbacks. Liadain Mercy I'm ollld No, no, no... so col. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Garibaldi Shirt WAS: Primary source for Elizabethan pillbox hats sought
This is not directly an answer to your question, but it is the sort of thing I would appreciate hearing about before I made something - take it or leave it as you choose. I am not a Civil War reenactor, so I do not know how to evaluate this source, but I have a special edition of The Citizen's Companion - the Voice of Civilian Reenacting August 2006, article Creating the Proper Impression by Karen Crocker, who says that the Garibaldi style waists were the latest in youthful sportswear in the mid-19th century. A survey of period photographs shows that, with few exceptions, they were mostly worn by young ladies... Also, they were considered undergarments, just as men's shirts were were not worn alone. A Garibaldi waist was worn as an ensemble piece with either a Zouave or bolero jacket , or a Swiss bodice. She suggests that it is more appropriate to get one correct dress and change it to your needs. For example, an apron can be worn for camp use and a nice collar substituted when a trip to market (sutler's row) is necessary. Patty From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of purpl...@optonline.net [purpl...@optonline.net] Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 12:37 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] Garibaldi Shirt WAS: Primary source for Elizabethan pillbox hats sought I am thinking of branching out into early US Civil War, and I was told that 'the easist thing to make is the Garibaldi shirt'. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] update - Dyeing linen wool blend
I have some pink from an exhaust cochineal bath that looks like it should be walking down the Barbie aisle! Very, very PINK. So maybe the question is: what does one do with 8 yards of pretty pink fabricI know there is pink in pre 17th century stuff (which is what I do mostly) but not this shade. Sg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Peacock Wedding Dress
Probably hard to match because the colors aren't really pigments for the most part, but some very fancy light interference patterns. See: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/vision/peacock.html That said, I hate the bodice, too. Patty From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of annbw...@aol.com [annbw...@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 7:44 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Peacock Wedding Dress But as someone who has worked with peacock feathers on a MUCH smaller scale, I must say, they aren't as easy to match as you might think. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Hook Eye closures (was Club for enthusiasts o...)
It's too bad they don't make it alternating hooks eyes. Patty Incidentally, I hate hook and eye tape - it can come apart at crucial moments, especially in theatre or stage shows. When I worked for the RSC they wouldn't use it, after a couple of accidents! Suzi -E House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Browned lace Edwardian? Collars
What a wonderful story! And good on you for caring about such things. Patty From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Wanda Pease [wan...@hevanet.com] Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 2:01 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] Browned lace Edwardian? Collars I just opened a box of my mother's which must have been put away by her mother not long after she married in 1900. It has several lace neck pieces. There are collars, both stand up and smooth around the neckline, one gorgeous one that is a high neck with points across the shoulders and one down the front. Two that are attached to dickies/partlets and must be to fill in the front of a deep V neck. Being totally ignorant about lace... were they ever supposed to be white? The most beautiful three are ecru (?) or a coffee with lots of cream shade. I'm not silly enough to put them in a bleaching solution. I thought putting them out in the sunlight maybe? Are they supposed to be that color? If they are how do you wear them? On a plain necked white blouse? How about the two that are on a dickie/partlet (sleeveless sheer that is just long enough to go under the arms with the decoration at the neckline and throat). They can't go on over a shirt if the shirt is to be seen. Something like a deep V vest? One of the partlet's seems to be almost elastic in that the mesh stretches enough so it will go over my front without pulling. They aren't Perfect in that they have been worn and used but they are all in very good shape for being over 100 years old now. I'd like to be able to wear them for special occasions, or even know how they looked and were worn when my Grandmother owned them. I never knew her, she died 15 years before I was born. In the same box was the little gold (not expensive I'm sure) fob watch she had been given as a college (!) graduation present. She had spent 2 years at Normal School after graduating from High School and received a teaching degree. The watch must have been precious to her because it came with her when she married, trekked west from Wisconsin to homestead in South Dakota (you still could then), lost everything (don't try and homestead in South Dakota = ever!), and followed by grandfather with their two little girls around the West working at whatever they could (this isn't the first economic downturn with hints of the Great Depression!. They finally wound up in Oregon where the oldest daughter, after being a maid for a year, decided she was going to College (in 1925!) and they moved to Corvallis, Oregon and everyone worked to put her through a degree as a Dietician. Sadly she died while doing her internship in California - appendectomies were touch and go then - she died on the table. My grandfather was run down by a Model Tee car he was cranking and that left Grandmother and my mother alone. My mother decided that she was going to college too since they lived right at Oregon State College. She and my Grandmother went to work to make it happen. Mother said that whenever anyone told Grandmother that her daughter should forget this silliness and get a job they would be told No! in no uncertain manner. Mother graduated as a pharmacist in 1934. I wish I'd known Jenni Mae Horn (or Horne as her guardian insisted on spelling it). She wasn't born to wealth, but she was born to comfort. She made it through some very hard times and kept her family together and going when it would have been easy to simply quit. I'm getting that watch fixed and passing it to the Great Grand-daughters of Jenni Mae Horn-Gilbert. I may give it to their mother, my nephew's wife and ask her to wear it and tell them the story so they will associate it with her as well as family history. Wanda ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What kind of fur would you use for this?
Snowshoe hares are not legal game animals in Ohio - I'm not sure where else this may be true. Check your local regulations. Patty Showshoe hares are very different from domestic rabbits - they are larger and they turn white in winter like the ermine. This may be a more historically accurate source of white fur for anyone but the highest nobility. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Image piracy - Anyone know who this is?
I was about to do the same thing. Let me know what she says. ;-) Patty From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Cynthia Virtue [cvir...@thibault.org] Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 4:19 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Image piracy - Anyone know who this is? Oh, my! Yes, that is quite a difference. I in all innocence asked her about the difference between the two images; I'll tell you if she says anything. ;) cv ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] what people wore when
Thanks! -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Charlene Charette Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:43 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] what people wore when This just showed up on my library's new books shelf. All of the drawings are from Hottenroth (1884) and Racinet (1888). Each section as a brief description of the timeframe along with captioned drawings. Probably not too bad as a basic beginner's book. Definitely not for anyone interested in strict authenticity. --Charlene On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Rickard, Patty ricka...@muc.edu wrote: What does anyone think about this book as a reference? Thanks, Patty What People Wore When: A Complete Illustrated History of Costume from Ancient Times to the Nineteenth Century for Every Level of Society by Melissa Leventonhttp://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/results.asp?ATH=Melissa+Leventon ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant. -- Robert McCloskey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] what people wore when
What does anyone think about this book as a reference? Thanks, Patty What People Wore When: A Complete Illustrated History of Costume from Ancient Times to the Nineteenth Century for Every Level of Society by Melissa Leventonhttp://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/results.asp?ATH=Melissa+Leventon ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing?
Ooooh - we match!! -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Dawn Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:38 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? Cin wrote: It's Oscar weekend, theater season, it's almost spring. There must be something! A mantle of dust trimmed with a fringe of silky black cat hair. :( Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] White/gold plaid taffeta:
I'm not getting pictures with any of these. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of ladybeanofbun...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 2:48 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] White/gold plaid taffeta: This is the prettiest taffeta and the largest amount. I believe I currently have about 30 yards of this rolled on a tube in more than one cut, and I think I might keep some for myself but there is more than I will ever need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Off-topic fabric search: climbing ONTO the Otsisto soapbox
The prices at local stores are higher, I love shopping at local stores. but often not that much higher; I have no answer. I do have the hope, though, that in the current economy For me, sewing regular clothing is much more expensive than going to the thrift or resale shops - most of my sewing is for costume use, wouldn't provide anyone with a steady income. more people will dust off their sewing skills and the fabric market will rebound (with less emphasis on craft kits etc!). I really hope that's what happens! There are plenty of people who sew--on the coasts as well as in the middle of the country. If a small store does open near you, do your best to shop there, and to educate the owner on your needs. Meanwhile, keep hectoring whatever stores do sell fabric, to keep on selling it, and to stock the kind of fabric you actually want. --Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy and amateur costumer ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Reminder: Lectures in L.A.
And it would be well worth it! Patty Maybe someday enough groups in Australia will be able to work out a cost-effective tour there for me! --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] cleaning a straw hat
(This is also good for baskets) From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Penny Ladnier [pe...@costumegallery.com] Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 12:05 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] cleaning a straw hat Jennifer, I mist once a month. Make sure you mist in an area that is ventilated so that they can air out and not attract mildew. Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 10 websites of costume, fashion and textile history. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What We Wore BBC colour film 1957 on Costume
Not available in my area either. :-( From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Suzi Clarke [s...@suziclarke.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:45 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] What We Wore BBC colour film 1957 on Costume At 19:35 10/01/2009, you wrote: In a message dated 1/10/2009 1:59:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, s...@suziclarke.co.uk writes: I thought it deserved a wider audience ** It does! But it's not available in my areaso I don't get to see it. When I clicked on that page there was a 15 minute film, sound and colour - was it not there for you? Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Drafting from antique garment - question
cool beans! Of course all proportions don't increase or decrease evenlybut this is a good start. Then measurements that are off can be adjusted more easily. The rule here is always the same to find how much to blow up or reduce: Divide the new size into the old size and move the decimal to the right 2 places. It's easydon't be put off by the math. Let's say the waist is 20 and the new size waist should be 28. You get out your calculator and put in the NEW size 1st: 28. Then hit divideand put in the old size: 20. What comes up is 1.4. Move the decimal over 2 spaces and you're blowing it up 140%. It works the other way too. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Ladies Clothing - gentry, c. 1503
I can remember pre-internet days when that was the only costume book our library had; it was out of print we thought it was worth its weight in gold. the good old days grin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suzi Clarke Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 3:50 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Ladies Clothing - gentry, c. 1503 At 18:57 10/12/2008, you wrote: There's always the Medieval volume of Norris ducking and running. Well it's not bad for general information and sillhouettes. I sold mine! Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What can I do with this fabric?
Hooray - today I finally got the original message! I got 2 responses to it on Tuesday and wondered what they were talking about. Have fun. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Claire Clarke Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 5:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] What can I do with this fabric? Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 23:28:24 +1100 From: Elizabeth Walpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] What can I do with this fabric? To: 'Historical Costume' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi everyone, I've been trying to cull some stuff from my fabric stash and I've hit a fabric that I love and would like to keep but I can't think of a use for it. It's a silk/cotton blend voile (it basically looks and behaves like cotton voile I think it's about 20% silk) in violet. From memory it's 130cm (52) wide and I have about 8-10 metres (I can't remember exactly how much but I remember I bought the remainder of the roll and I thought it would be enough for a decent gown). Anyway, my original plan was a Victorian (probably 1850s-60s) sheer dress but I so far I haven't seen evidence for a solid colours (not counting white) in sheer cotton dresses of that period. So what would you do with this? I'm open to just about any pre 1900 suggestions but I don't want to have to stretch the historic accuracy too much and I'd prefer to use the whole piece in one project (little fiddly projects are the reason I've never been tempted to try quilting). There is the dress described in 'Costume in detail 1730-1930' as being a Purple-black satin with matching gauze overdress, dating from the 1830's, and Currently in the Snowshill collection. That's quite a lovely dress (imnsho). There's also (and this is from memory as it's been a while since I looked at a Copy) a mention in 'The Cut of Women's Clothes' about a short trend in the 1660's For women to wear 'sheers' over their gowns (it was memorable for the quote from Charles II saying that he would be quite happy for the ladies to wear nothing Else). I've never seen any other evidence for this, particularly pictorial evidence, And I've always been quite curious as to whether it was true or not, and what such A thing might look like, given that the style of the time was quite rigid and structured. Claire ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Which end of the thread?
That's what habit (or training) does. Everyone around me always cut off the thread first - I never thought to leave it on. It sounds much less conducive to tangling that way. I'll have to try it (when I actually unearth my sewing projects, that is ;-p) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Maggie Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 6:33 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Which end of the thread? Wow, I had no idea. If I did that, the thread would be knotted up before I ever got to the threading part. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Jazz Color
I am sure have heard of certain colours used in clothing such as zoot suits referred to in this way -- I cannot recall where/when -- colours such as yellow, green and others not usually associated with menswear of the early 20th century. You could always hunt and email the author and ask. Good idea, thanks! As a side note, the Phryne Fisher Fan Club here in Melbourne used to take tea at the Windsor Hotel as described in the books. I wonder if they are still around, How neat - I hope so. -C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Jazz Coloured
Thanks! I had no idea that there was such a place. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Agnes Gawne Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Jazz Coloured Hello list - I went to the Phryne Fisher web site and looked in the glossary -- here is what the author says Jazz Coloured means: Jazz coloured pink, black and silver, green, black and gold. Usually in stripes. source: http://www.phrynefisher.com/glossary.html If you are interested in Phryne Fisher it may be worth your while to read the rest of the glossary. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] jazz color
I'm currently reading a book which refers to jazz color. Can anyone clue me in? Thanks, Patty ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Jazz Color
Thanks for your response, Penny. The book sounded pretty specific for jazz being a color, as in 'a jazz colored dress.' I couldn't imagine what that would be. Patty -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 3:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Jazz Color Patty, I haven't heard of a specific color called jazz before but in New Orleans the Mardi Gras color are used with the jazz funerals. The Mardi Gras colors are gold (or bright yellow), purple and green. These colors are used frequently with Dixieland or New Orleans style jazz music. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 10 websites for fashion, costume, and textile history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Jazz Color
Hi Andy, It's just a mystery: Queen of the Flowers : a Phryne Fisher mystery by Kerry Greenwood. Most of the 1920s background seems fairly accurate, as far as I can tell. Patty From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew T Trembley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 4:47 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Jazz Color On Nov 18, 2008, at 1:03 PM, Rickard, Patty wrote: Thanks for your response, Penny. The book sounded pretty specific for jazz being a color, as in 'a jazz colored dress.' I couldn't imagine what that would be. Patty Let us know what book it's from. That may provide a more solid lead. andy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Washing silk taffeta
Sounds like she just wrote base when she meant acid (in the vinegar) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Audrey Bergeron-Morin Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:29 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Washing silk taffeta An question: what is it about the vinegar rinse that restores crispness? Is it just the base neutralizing the soap residue, or something more interesting? The exact opposite. Soaps, detergents, and other things of the kind, are almost always basic, except for some very specific products made for specific purposes (washing sheep, for example). The problem with bases is that they attack animal fibers (dissolve them, in fact - which is why wool and silk - as well as human skin and hair - dissolve in bleach). Of course, soaps and detergents are far from being as basic as bleach, so the damage is minor. Silk, being an animal fiber, is attacked by the high (basic) pH. Lowering (acidifying) the pH, neutralizes this undesirable effect, so to speak. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Washing silk taffeta
Having often been amazed at the things that come out of my keyboard unbidden, I understood right away. P. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:57 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Washing silk taffeta Hi, Patty, Thanks for having faith in me! I did mis-speak -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
