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At 01:03 PM 3/23/2012, you wrote: I have never, ever heard that! I think it is completely apocryphal. Pierre Greetings all, I've been mulling this bit of trivia around in my head for the longest time. I think I need to share it and see if any of you know of any support or documentation for this information. Most Unusual Concession to Modesty: The earliest Christians believed that the Virgin Mary was impregnated through her ear and that other women as well had used their ears as reproductive organs. For that reason, an exposed female ear was considered no less an outrage than an exposed thigh, and a woman would not appear in public unless clad in a tight-fitting wimple. Felton, Bruce, and Mark Fowler. Part II, Behavior. The Best, Worst, and Most Unusual: Noteworthy Achievements, Events, Feats and Blunders of Every Conceivable Kind. New York: Galahad, 1994. 428. Print. So, the wimple had to develop for some reason. Is this reason believable? Documentable? Are there any other reasons that would be more legitimate based on available documentation? Laurie Taylor Phoenix ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume International Costumers' Guild Archivist http://www.costume.org/gallery2/main.php Those Who Fail to Learn History Are Doomed to Repeat It; Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly - Why They Are Simply Doomed. Achemdro'hm The Illusion of Historical Fact -- C. Y. 4971 Andromeda ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Given that the Earliest Christians didn't wear wimples... that sounds like nonsense to me. Wimples developed late in the Middle Ages - when it started getting colder, for one thing. And I do remember someone (possibly on this list, years ago) commenting that it did indeed keep her much warmer. Anne On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Laurie Taylor mazarineblu...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings all, I've been mulling this bit of trivia around in my head for the longest time. I think I need to share it and see if any of you know of any support or documentation for this information. Most Unusual Concession to Modesty: The earliest Christians believed that the Virgin Mary was impregnated through her ear and that other women as well had used their ears as reproductive organs. For that reason, an exposed female ear was considered no less an outrage than an exposed thigh, and a woman would not appear in public unless clad in a tight-fitting wimple. Felton, Bruce, and Mark Fowler. Part II, Behavior. The Best, Worst, and Most Unusual: Noteworthy Achievements, Events, Feats and Blunders of Every Conceivable Kind. New York: Galahad, 1994. 428. Print. So, the wimple had to develop for some reason. Is this reason believable? Documentable? Are there any other reasons that would be more legitimate based on available documentation? Laurie Taylor Phoenix ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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What is a wimple? I assume it is a head/hair covering. Any images of one? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2012, at 4:48 PM, Anne Murphy afmmur...@gmail.com wrote: Given that the Earliest Christians didn't wear wimples... that sounds like nonsense to me. Wimples developed late in the Middle Ages - when it started getting colder, for one thing. And I do remember someone (possibly on this list, years ago) commenting that it did indeed keep her much warmer. Anne On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Laurie Taylor mazarineblu...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings all, I've been mulling this bit of trivia around in my head for the longest time. I think I need to share it and see if any of you know of any support or documentation for this information. Most Unusual Concession to Modesty: The earliest Christians believed that the Virgin Mary was impregnated through her ear and that other women as well had used their ears as reproductive organs. For that reason, an exposed female ear was considered no less an outrage than an exposed thigh, and a woman would not appear in public unless clad in a tight-fitting wimple. Felton, Bruce, and Mark Fowler. Part II, Behavior. The Best, Worst, and Most Unusual: Noteworthy Achievements, Events, Feats and Blunders of Every Conceivable Kind. New York: Galahad, 1994. 428. Print. So, the wimple had to develop for some reason. Is this reason believable? Documentable? Are there any other reasons that would be more legitimate based on available documentation? Laurie Taylor Phoenix ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Yo know the images of old time nuns with the white part going around the face and neck different of the veil? That is oneexasmple. -Original Message- Date: Saturday, March 24, 2012 5:55:30 pm To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com From: Becky zearti...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] (no subject) What is a wimple? I assume it is a head/hair covering. Any images of one? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2012, at 4:48 PM, Anne Murphy afmmur...@gmail.com wrote: Given that the Earliest Christians didn't wear wimples... that sounds like nonsense to me. Wimples developed late in the Middle Ages - when it started getting colder, for one thing. And I do remember someone (possibly on this list, years ago) commenting that it did indeed keep her much warmer. Anne On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Laurie Taylor mazarineblu...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings all, I've been mulling this bit of trivia around in my head for the longest time. I think I need to share it and see if any of you know of any support or documentation for this information. Most Unusual Concession to Modesty: The earliest Christians believed that the Virgin Mary was impregnated through her ear and that other women as well had used their ears as reproductive organs. F ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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It is not actually a head covering. It is worn under a veil, sort of a swathe of fabric, covering the throat (and sometimes the base of the chin.) It was worn in Europe in the 14th and 15th centuries, generally by married women. It then became part of the habit of some orders of nuns - those that were founded at that time - which is what many modern people think about when they hear the term. (Orders usually based their habits on the ordinary clothing of a matron or widow of their time.) Now - it seems quite possible that the author *meant* the veil, not the wimple... which would itself indicate just how trustworthy this is as a source... The veil is the part that covers the head. They are two different pieces, even when worn together, sometimes of two different fabrics. (The veil is worn without the wimple in many periods - the wimple is not generally worn without the veil, which may cause the confusion.) Veils were worn by many women in many cultures. Ancient Greek and Roman women usually wore something over their heads when they went out in public... it's not just a Judeo/Christian thing. Anne On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Becky zearti...@hotmail.com wrote: What is a wimple? I assume it is a head/hair covering. Any images of one? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2012, at 4:48 PM, Anne Murphy afmmur...@gmail.com wrote: Given that the Earliest Christians didn't wear wimples... that sounds like nonsense to me. Wimples developed late in the Middle Ages - when it started getting colder, for one thing. And I do remember someone (possibly on this list, years ago) commenting that it did indeed keep her much warmer. Anne On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Laurie Taylor mazarineblu...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings all, I've been mulling this bit of trivia around in my head for the longest time. I think I need to share it and see if any of you know of any support or documentation for this information. Most Unusual Concession to Modesty: The earliest Christians believed that the Virgin Mary was impregnated through her ear and that other women as well had used their ears as reproductive organs. For that reason, an exposed female ear was considered no less an outrage than an exposed thigh, and a woman would not appear in public unless clad in a tight-fitting wimple. Felton, Bruce, and Mark Fowler. Part II, Behavior. The Best, Worst, and Most Unusual: Noteworthy Achievements, Events, Feats and Blunders of Every Conceivable Kind. New York: Galahad, 1994. 428. Print. So, the wimple had to develop for some reason. Is this reason believable? Documentable? Are there any other reasons that would be more legitimate based on available documentation? Laurie Taylor Phoenix ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Greetings all, I've been mulling this bit of trivia around in my head for the longest time. I think I need to share it and see if any of you know of any support or documentation for this information. Most Unusual Concession to Modesty: The earliest Christians believed that the Virgin Mary was impregnated through her ear and that other women as well had used their ears as reproductive organs. For that reason, an exposed female ear was considered no less an outrage than an exposed thigh, and a woman would not appear in public unless clad in a tight-fitting wimple. Felton, Bruce, and Mark Fowler. Part II, Behavior. The Best, Worst, and Most Unusual: Noteworthy Achievements, Events, Feats and Blunders of Every Conceivable Kind. New York: Galahad, 1994. 428. Print. So, the wimple had to develop for some reason. Is this reason believable? Documentable? Are there any other reasons that would be more legitimate based on available documentation? Laurie Taylor Phoenix ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Huh, I was under the impression that the covered head (regardless of location or specific era) was from something in Leviticus. You'll have to find someone more aware of things Biblical than I am for further info. In any case, and I havent read the article, linking a fashion trend to what everybody knows sounds like a stretch. I have no evidence or inclination towards of aural insemination, just a hunch that it's a quaint old wives tale written down oft repeated cuz it's so marvelously silly. I'm off to think Ragtime era thoughts. --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Laurie Taylor mazarineblu...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings all, I've been mulling this bit of trivia around in my head for the longest time. I think I need to share it and see if any of you know of any support or documentation for this information. Most Unusual Concession to Modesty: The earliest Christians believed that the Virgin Mary was impregnated through her ear and that other women as well had used their ears as reproductive organs. For that reason, an exposed female ear was considered no less an outrage than an exposed thigh, and a woman would not appear in public unless clad in a tight-fitting wimple. Felton, Bruce, and Mark Fowler. Part II, Behavior. The Best, Worst, and Most Unusual: Noteworthy Achievements, Events, Feats and Blunders of Every Conceivable Kind. New York: Galahad, 1994. 428. Print. So, the wimple had to develop for some reason. Is this reason believable? Documentable? Are there any other reasons that would be more legitimate based on available documentation? Laurie Taylor Phoenix ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I think sometimes we try to apply too much they did this because to fashion. Can't something be worn because its thought to be becoming and fashionable in its time? Just look at how necklines go up and down. Why is it OK to have an open neckline in 1500 but not in 1600? Why do skirts go from being OK to show ankles in the 1830's to dresses being floor length again in the 1860's? Why wear tall cone shaped hats in the 1400's? Why the tall hairstyles in the 1700's? Why the large drum shape skirts in the 1600's and a bustle shape in the late 19th century. Its simply all because the fashions changed. People tweeked what was being worn until it got to the point where it looked like something else. Perhaps something was being done and the daring new fashion was to do it the opposite way. Maggie Halberg -Original Message- From: Beteena Paradise bete...@mostlymedieval.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Fri, Mar 23, 2012 6:49 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] (no subject) 1 Corinthians has a passage that says that if a woman doesn't cover her head, her hair should be cut off. And if she doesn't want to have her hair cut off, then she should cover her head. But I always thought that the grown woman was required to cover her head because her hair would be arousing to men. Teena From: Cin cinbar...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] (no subject) Huh, I was under the impression that the covered head (regardless of location or specific era) was from something in Leviticus. You'll have to find someone more aware of things Biblical than I am for further info. In any case, and I havent read the article, linking a fashion trend to what everybody knows sounds like a stretch. I have no evidence or inclination towards of aural insemination, just a hunch that it's a quaint old wives tale written down oft repeated cuz it's so marvelously silly. I'm off to think Ragtime era thoughts. --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Laurie Taylor mazarineblu...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings all, I've been mulling this bit of trivia around in my head for the longest time. I think I need to share it and see if any of you know of any support or documentation for this information. Most Unusual Concession to Modesty: The earliest Christians believed that the Virgin Mary was impregnated through her ear and that other women as well had used their ears as reproductive organs. For that reason, an exposed female ear was considered no less an outrage than an exposed thigh, and a woman would not appear in public unless clad in a tight-fitting wimple. Felton, Bruce, and Mark Fowler. Part II, Behavior. The Best, Worst, and Most Unusual: Noteworthy Achievements, Events, Feats and Blunders of Every Conceivable Kind. New York: Galahad, 1994. 428. Print. So, the wimple had to develop for some reason. Is this reason believable? Documentable? Are there any other reasons that would be more legitimate based on available documentation? Laurie Taylor Phoenix ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Sounds like a tremendous load of cr34 to me. Unlike Cin, I do read the Bible and there's nothing remotely suggesting anything like a wimple; only advice for women praying to cover their heads in modesty. Cover can mean almost anything. Sounds as if the authors were manufacturing facts out of silly putty. ==Marjorie Wilser @..@ @..@ @..@ Three Toad Press http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Mar 23, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Laurie Taylor wrote: Greetings all, I've been mulling this bit of trivia around in my head for the longest time. I think I need to share it and see if any of you know of any support or documentation for this information. Most Unusual Concession to Modesty: The earliest Christians believed that the Virgin Mary was impregnated through her ear and that other women as well had used their ears as reproductive organs. For that reason, an exposed female ear was considered no less an outrage than an exposed thigh, and a woman would not appear in public unless clad in a tight-fitting wimple. Felton, Bruce, and Mark Fowler. Part II, Behavior. The Best, Worst, and Most Unusual: Noteworthy Achievements, Events, Feats and Blunders of Every Conceivable Kind. New York: Galahad, 1994. 428. Print. So, the wimple had to develop for some reason. Is this reason believable? Documentable? Are there any other reasons that would be more legitimate based on available documentation? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Sorry, the unmarked post with only a single link was from some virus or similar that came from this email address. The yahoo email seems to have been hacked or spoofed, and I will be moving to my regular secure email in a short bit, instead of my yahoo email. Please, if a link by itself is sent, it often is a virus, or a viral email. Please don't open the link as it might end up harming your system. I hope in this case no one's system was harmed other than my own (or yahoo, as my computer itself is still clean). Kimiko Kimiko Small http://www.kimiko1.com Be the change you want to see in the world. ~ Ghandi The Tudor Lady's Wardrobe pattern http://www.margospatterns.com/ From: cora hendershot wheatgoddes...@yahoo.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Mon, January 10, 2011 5:47:27 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] (no subject) but, if you manually enter www.stylecloud.com, you get a site on voting about food. Was this what was intended? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Good evening, Well, I don't know which costuming list first brought this image to my attention, but the time has come...I have to make this chemise. Someone else had inquired about the bodice in this picture, but the chemise just really hooked me. http://exhibits.denverartmuseum.org/artisansandkings/?page_id=23 The painting is by Titian and the title is Woman with a Mirror, at least on wga.hu. I'd have used that link instead of this, but the WGA links don't seem to work for getting directly to images. Fortunately, there seem to be plenty of photos of this painting all over the 'net. As to why I'm rambling on about this image here, on h-costume, I'm debating the pattern for this chemise. I'm thinking that this should be no more complicated than the Elizabethan chemise shown here, http://www.elizabethancostume.net/cheminst.html, even though this picture is considerably earlier than Elizabethan, but I thought I'd seek other opinions on the matter. I have, for my first attempt at this chemise, a very sheer, cotton crinkle. It certainly isn't period, but I think that it would give the look of the chemise in the image. I also have a silk set aside for this, for a second version. The chemise in the painting seems unlikely to have a drawstring neckline. Any thoughts on this? The picture on WGA.hu, zoomed to 200%, looks like maybe very fine, parallel rows of gathers which would not have the adjustability of a drawstring, but it's that gathered look that I like about this chemise. The sleeves are extremely full, but this could be a drawstring that has been left un-drawn, untied. Again, any interpretations from any of you? Thanks. Laurie T. Phoenix ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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On 10/10/2010 01:59 AM, Laurie Taylor wrote: [snip] The chemise in the painting seems unlikely to have a drawstring neckline. Any thoughts on this? The picture on WGA.hu, zoomed to 200%, looks like maybe very fine, parallel rows of gathers which would not have the adjustability of a drawstring, but it's that gathered look that I like about this chemise. [snip] I think you're right that it's very fine gathers and not a drawstring. In fact, I don't know of any 16th c chemises gathered on a drawstring. To that end, you may find the following websites interesting: http://www.festiveattyre.com/research/chemise.html http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/library/camicia.htm http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/library/camportrait.htm http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/library/neckhowto.htm -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com If you can make a girl laugh, you can make her do anything. — Marilyn Monroe ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I only know of one rumored drawstring camacia/chemise, all others are pleated, gathered and flat. The cuffs are not drawstringed either. Realm of Venus is a good place to look for Venetian. http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/ Wardrobe takes you to the paintings. Library is research Workbox is extant Showcase are dress diaries of their interpretations of pre 1600s clothing (there are one or two Dangerous Beauties styles). De -Original Message- http://exhibits.denverartmuseum.org/artisansandkings/?page_id=23 The chemise in the painting seems unlikely to have a drawstring neckline. Any thoughts on this? The picture on WGA.hu, zoomed to 200%, looks like maybe very fine, parallel rows of gathers which would not have the adjustability of a drawstring, but it's that gathered look that I like about this chemise. The sleeves are extremely full, but this could be a drawstring that has been left un-drawn, untied. Again, any interpretations from any of you? Thanks. Laurie T. Phoenix ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Re:exersaucer I have a picture in my computer that I dont know where off the web I got it of a spanish infanta I labeled it isabella clara and I am not sure if the younger child is considered to be her sister katerina or brother who I think is philip. the child is in what apears to be a walker. As soon as I am not sleep deprived and fried from a grueling 18 hour day tv pilot shoot I will track it down or at least post this one online so someone esle can Yolanda ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Hi, A long while back, I ran across a page on a web site listing some of the many costume history books that people frequently reference, and discussing why they might not necessarily be considered reliable. I cannot find the link or the pdf that I might have made from that page. Does anyone know to which web article I am referring, and if so, where I might find it again? I've been googling for a while, but just haven't hit on the right search terms to get it to pop up. Thanks. Laurie T. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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For rings, try Lacis, a store in Berkeley, CA. I think they have a web site. They also sell metal and spiral boning. (My daughter recently bought some for a corset and it cost about $5.)Or metal ones from a jewelry catalog. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Jo Anne Fatherly Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 8:19 PM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] (no subject) I got Margo's Tudor Woman patterns and now I have questions. (They've probably been asked before, but forgive me -- I didn't need to know then!). Two materials recommendations have me baffled. There's half-inch diameter Roman drapery rings. I can't find any smaller than an inch -- where would you get them? And the often-made suggestion of using half-inch plastic strapping for boning -- no one around here seems to sell any that's larger than 3/8. Mail order? Use it double? Looking forward to this project -- Jo Anne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I got Margo's Tudor Woman patterns and now I have questions. (They've probably been asked before, but forgive me -- I didn't need to know then!). Two materials recommendations have me baffled. There's half-inch diameter Roman drapery rings. I can't find any smaller than an inch -- where would you get them? And the often-made suggestion of using half-inch plastic strapping for boning -- no one around here seems to sell any that's larger than 3/8. Mail order? Use it double? Looking forward to this project -- Jo Anne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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On Sunday 10 January 2010 11:18:36 pm Jo Anne Fatherly wrote: I got Margo's Tudor Woman patterns and now I have questions. (They've probably been asked before, but forgive me -- I didn't need to know then!). Two materials recommendations have me baffled. There's half-inch diameter Roman drapery rings. I can't find any smaller than an inch -- where would you get them? One place you can get 1/2 inch rings is Renaissance Fabrics; the specific page on their website is here: http://tinyurl.com/y8v7wcb -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com No one can make as disastrous a bad choice as a smart person, because they sell it to themselves really well.--Tobias Buckell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I found the smaller brass drapery rings from Warm Natural window batting, but my local Joanns store that carried them discontinued those items this past year. I am not sure where to suggest online, but maybe that brand name might help in your search. And you can use the smaller cable ties. That's what I have in my fitted Tudor kirtle. The key is to have them go across the front of the bodice in channels just a little larger than the boning you use so they can slip in. I've seen the wider thicker duct ties in the air conditioning areas of the major home improvement stores. They are really long, too... since they go around the much larger a/c metal duct tubes. I personally prefer the thinner cable ties, but each person has their own preferences. Hth, and have fun with the project! Kimiko Kimiko Small http://www.kimiko1.com Be the change you want to see in the world. ~ Ghandi The Tudor Lady's Wardrobe pattern http://www.margospatterns.com/ Two materials recommendations have me baffled. There's half-inch diameter Roman drapery rings. I can't find any smaller than an inch -- where would you get them? And the often-made suggestion of using half-inch plastic strapping for boning -- no one around here seems to sell any that's larger than 3/8. Mail order? Use it double? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I think these are reproductions out of Norris, Kohler or one of the books they copied from Those drawings aren't from Kohler, so it must be Norris or somebody else. I am interested in the pattern on the fabric which is reproduced up in the the left hand corner. I think that's the heraldic representation of a fire-steel, the thing that you knock together with a flint to make a spark. No ideas beyond that. Sorry. -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- “The future is already here, it is just unevenly distributed.” -William Gibson -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] (no subject) Fire steel or fleam
It could also be a fleam. Not quite the canonical, but with artistic license... could be that or the aforementioned fire steel. Picture is surely Norris. -- Cynthia Virtue and/or Cynthia du Pre Argent Such virtue hath my pen -Shakespeare, Sonnet 81 I knew this wasn't _my_ pen! --Cynthia Virtue ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Definitly from Norris. I'm sure the item has a heraldic name, but I'm no herald. It's probably in the text, though. Just find a copy of Norris's Medieval volume (in english) and start digging! :) MaggiRos Maggie Secara ~A Compendium of Common Knowledge 1558-1603 Available at your favorite online bookseller See our gallery at http://www.zazzle.com/popinjaypress On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Saragrace Knauf wickedf...@msn.com wrote: I think these are reproductions out of Norris, Kohler or one of the books they copied from, but I do have a question about the gown (0br.9 Pánská houpelande )on this page: http://www.kostym.cz/Cesky/III_14_03.htm Does anyone recognize the original painting from which this might have been derived? I am interested in the pattern on the fabric which is reproduced up in the the left hand corner. I'd be curious to find out if it really existed in a painting somewhere. Sg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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That thingie is a clarion - a horn. Know I've seen that drawing before, but darned if I can find it in my Norris (know it's gotta be in there though...) Liadain You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... wildernesse, the Outlands http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies http://practical-blackwork.tripod.com -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Maggie Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:59 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] (no subject) Definitly from Norris. I'm sure the item has a heraldic name, but I'm no herald. It's probably in the text, though. Just find a copy of Norris's Medieval volume (in english) and start digging! :) MaggiRos Maggie Secara ~A Compendium of Common Knowledge 1558-1603 Available at your favorite online bookseller See our gallery at http://www.zazzle.com/popinjaypress On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Saragrace Knauf wickedf...@msn.com wrote: I think these are reproductions out of Norris, Kohler or one of the books they copied from, but I do have a question about the gown (0br.9 Pánská houpelande )on this page: http://www.kostym.cz/Cesky/III_14_03.htm Does anyone recognize the original painting from which this might have been derived? I am interested in the pattern on the fabric which is reproduced up in the the left hand corner. I'd be curious to find out if it really existed in a painting somewhere. Sg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I mostly just lurk and learn things from all of your conversations but I need some help. I need help on resources for Researching 3rd century roman clothing and don't really know where to start. Book website and other general recommendations would be very much appreciated. I did find a few things but my google fu is off. Thanks in advance for all your help Yolanda ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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On Saturday 17 January 2009 11:03:24 pm Yolanda wrote: I mostly just lurk and learn things from all of your conversations but I need some help. I need help on resources for Researching 3rd century roman clothing and don't really know where to start. Book website and other general recommendations would be very much appreciated. I did find a few things but my google fu is off. Try this one for a start; it discusses third century costume and later in the Roman provinces: Croom, A.T. Roman Clothing and Fashion. Tempus Publishing, Ltd., 2000. ISBN 0 7524 1469 0. There's some more generalized information about the Roman textile industry that late in the Empire here: Rogers, Penelope Walton, Jorgensen, Lise Bender Rast-Eicher, Antoninette, eds. The Roman Textile Industry and Its Influence. Oxbow Books, 2001. ISBN 1 84217 046 5. The bibliographies of both books should help also. Good luck. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com If someone offers you a dead dog for lunch, you don't stick around for the pudding. --Ben Yahtzee Croshaw ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Pt. It would really help us all to change the subject header when we change topics. Every time I see the others, the ones related to the flame war, I just delete them unread. I'm sure I'm not the only one! ::Linda:: ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Dear Paula, I get my magazines from Australia, there are no places in Denmark where i can buy it. But maybe there are places in USA? The magazine is called Inspirations Here is a link directly to Australia: http://www.countrybumpkin.com.au/ Bjarne - Original Message - From: Paula Praxis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 1:29 AM Subject: [h-cost] (no subject) Can someone please provide the name of the journal in which Bjorne will be featured. If possible a link to how it can be ordered would be really nice and helpful. I'm a great fan of his beautiful work. _ More photos, more messages, more storage-get 2GB with Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-usocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Thank you Bjarne, I'm bookmarking the site. Lovely items there. Paula From: Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] (no subject) Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 10:52:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from www1.indra.com ([209.169.0.7]) by bay0-mc5-f10.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Sat, 12 May 2007 01:54:37 -0700 Received: from net.indra.com (net.indra.com [204.144.142.1])by www1.indra.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l4C8qU76056705(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK);Sat, 12 May 2007 02:52:30 -0600 (MDT)(envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: from net.indra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])by net.indra.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l4C8qAuQ062852;Sat, 12 May 2007 02:52:16 -0600 (MDT)(envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: from fep34.mail.dk (fep34.mail.dk [80.160.76.198])by net.indra.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l4C8q5K5062814for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 12 May 2007 02:52:07 -0600 (MDT)(envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: from fep45.mail.dk ([195.41.46.228]) by fep34.mail.dk(InterMail vM.7.08.02.02 201-2186-121-104-20070414) with ESMTPid [EMAIL PROTECTED]for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 12 May 2007 10:52:01 +0200 Received: from CPQ21932199711 ([80.63.231.214]) by fep45.mail.dk(InterMail vG.2.02.00.00 201-2161-120-101-20051020) with ESMTPid [EMAIL PROTECTED]for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 12 May 2007 10:52:01 +0200 X-Message-Info: LsUYwwHHNt2DZGpnyFatzyOEinjRRVf3TsjENUTBcuprcAMQSzggS3ZDOQcv35us References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at fep45.mail.dk from[80.63.231.214] at Sat, 12 May 2007 10:51:54 +0200 X-DCC-indra.com-Metrics: net.indra.com 1044; bulk rep Body=many Fuz1=manyFuz2=many rep=19% X-BeenThere: h-costume@mail.indra.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Historical Costume h-costume.mail.indra.com List-Unsubscribe: http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume,mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://net.indra.com/pipermail/h-costume List-Post: mailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume,mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 May 2007 08:54:38.0112 (UTC) FILETIME=[2BD8B200:01C79473] Dear Paula, I get my magazines from Australia, there are no places in Denmark where i can buy it. But maybe there are places in USA? The magazine is called Inspirations Here is a link directly to Australia: http://www.countrybumpkin.com.au/ Bjarne - Original Message - From: Paula Praxis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 1:29 AM Subject: [h-cost] (no subject) Can someone please provide the name of the journal in which Bjorne will be featured. If possible a link to how it can be ordered would be really nice and helpful. I'm a great fan of his beautiful work. _ More photos, more messages, more storage-get 2GB with Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-usocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ More photos, more messages, more storageget 2GB with Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-usocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Can someone please provide the name of the journal in which Bjorne will be featured. If possible a link to how it can be ordered would be really nice and helpful. I'm a great fan of his beautiful work. _ More photos, more messages, more storageget 2GB with Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-usocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Final Clearance on Patterns and Re-enactor Supplies! We've deep discounted our remaining stock of historical sewing patterns and re-enactor supplies to 75%! At these prices you can't go wrong! Cooperage Update Gary is still working on the few remaining cooperage orders he has, and is looking forward to opening for orders, and even having a bit of stock, around mid-year. Recipes of a Dumb Housewife We now have all the testers we need for Lorina's upcoming recipe book, Recipes of a Dumb Housewife. Revisions will take place during February, and a publication date tentatively set for March or April. We'll keep you posted about cost and pre-order information! Happy New Year As always, Gary and Lorina wish you all a contented, prosperous and healthy New Year. Five Rivers Chapmanry purveyors of historical sewing patterns, quality hand-crafted cooperage, re-enactor and embroidery supplies, and more. 519-799-5577 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.5rivers.org ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I’m gearing up to make a new dress, and was wondering if anybody on here has made up the 1878 dress from Janet Arnold’s Pattern of Fashion 2. (ha – rhetorical question – I’m sure somebody has!) I’m got a general idea of what I want out of the dress, and this seems to be closest to what I want. However, I want to shorten the skirt and remove the train, and let the main dress be split up the front to where it starts to button. I’ll wear an underskirt underneath it. Should I break down and buy a Truly Victorian pattern or something else like that? I’m 5’3” 32-26-35, corseted, and this dress looks a bit big for me. Not that resizing scares me, it’s just that the design of the pattern looks harder to get smaller by just fitting it down. Thanks! Quia Christus Perpetuo Regnat, Elisabeth -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.9/573 - Release Date: 12/5/2006 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Fran wrote: Anyone who wishes is welcome to filter out all my emails by my sender address, or any other means their email program or ISP supports. Unless a person is receiving digest format, in which case you get all the good and bad anyway, scan subjects, and choose from there. The fact people don't change subject lines often means I scan subjects, scroll down through the digest, find what is being currently discussed has nothing to do with the subject, and so I delete. A goodly number of digests end up being deleted because I grow weary having to sort through all the messages of a digest, scroll through all the un-snipped background, or in some cases, entire digests. Not to be a wet blanket, but people don't change subject lines. They aren't going to use prefixes with any consistency either. Not here. Regards, Lorina Five Rivers Chapmanry purveyors of historical sewing patterns, quality hand-crafted cooperage, re-enactor and embroidery supplies, and more. 519-799-5577 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.5rivers.org ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Five Rivers Chapmanry wrote: Not to be a wet blanket, but people don't change subject lines. They aren't going to use prefixes with any consistency either. Not here. It may be possible that it's a lost cause. But couldn't we try? :) If everyone spent thirty seconds more for each post to trim the quotes and double-check the subject line, I think that would be a huge step in a direction that many of us would be very happy with. The problem that someone mentioned of making the subject line describe a post with several different topics, can easily be solved by making a separate post per topic. That way it's also easier to catch the eye of the people who know something about the specific topics, and so everyone gains from it - the poster gets more specific replies, interested parties find good discussions, and those not interested can delete. To me, the just delete what you don't like is fair advice in a group like this - but the fact of the matter is that it doesn't work if you can't be sure what's in a post before you've read the entire thing. So if everyone just takes a second to glance at the subject line before they post, that really does help a lot. :) Ingrid -- Follow your dreams. Unless it's the one where you go to work naked. -- This email has been scanned for viruses spam by Decna as - www.decna.no Denne e-posten er sjekket for virus spam av Decna as - www.decna.no ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] RE: subject lines
Unless a person is receiving digest format, in which case you get all the good and bad anyway, scan subjects, and choose from there. That is why I find individual messages to be more efficient than digests. You can set up a mail folder for a specific e-group, and have all messages from that group automatically directed to it on downloa. You can then skim through the subject headers without reading the emails just as if it were a digest. You can filter all emails from specific senders, and subjects of frequent occurence and definite disinterest, directly into your trash folder, and so on. I do agree that accurate subject lines, with or without prefixes such as CHAT:, are an excellent thing. I also like Yahoo lists because you can drop in and read emails now and then whenever you feel like it, without receiving messages automatically, or you can receive them automatically if you prefer. Yahoo also keeps archives. Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Lavolta Press wrote: I also like Yahoo lists because you can drop in and read emails now and then whenever you feel like it, without receiving messages automatically, or you can receive them automatically if you prefer. Yahoo also keeps archives. H-cost is now archived in two or three places, and you can choose to read online rather than getting messages automatically (though you would probably want to reply from your own e-mail box). http://news.gmane.org/gmane.culture.studies.history.costume http://www.mail-archive.com/h-costume@mail.indra.com/index.html I've found these useful for keeping up with the list while I am traveling. --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] re: h-cost was Subject Lines - Reinventing the Wheel public replies
You don't think it is better to present constructive suggestions as to how _all_ h-costume members can focus on which of the many posts interest them most, than to simply complain, argue about what is acceptable, have people quit the group, etc.? Having done a lot of reading and writing, I'm perfectly capable of skimming the digest titles and then briefly checking I don't miss a nugget of gold in amongst the chat. BTW - As someone who /did/ respond in public in a way that some people find offensive/unnecessarily open/whatever with some personal information, I just want to say TOUGH if you don't like it. You don't have to read my messages, I don't have to read yours - I skimmed hundreds, literally, after the hurricane last year but you know what, I was glad to know everyone was still alive and ok. If I could have helped, I would have been glad to be asked, even though it wasn't costume related. No complaints, no arguing, no quitting - although to be honest I'm considering it after this latest bout of po-faced negativity. What I /would/ like is a way to filter the digest messages. Katherine. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] re: h-cost was Subject Lines - Reinventing the Wheel public replies
, I just want to say TOUGH if you don't like it. My opinions are as valid as yours. Meanwhile, I am trying to present a constructive solution that might help you and others. I gave up subscribing to digests for any list as soon as I discovered filters, precisely because filters are much more efficient. For one thing, you can set up subject filters that work with all the lists you subscribe to, and with non-email-list messages. For example, one of my subject filters is Virus Warning. I have a body filter that puts everything with the word Nigeria anywhere in it into my Trash folder, because so far every message I've ever gotten with Nigeria in it is some sort of spam/con. - I skimmed hundreds, literally, after the hurricane last year but you know what , I was glad to know everyone was still alive and ok. Yes, I can read well enough to skim hundreds of headers too. However, I don't see why I should spend the time when I don't have to. The point is not whether people should be warm-hearted and help each other. The point is whether on an unrelated list they should keep all or most of it to private email. Although to be honest I'm considering it after this latest bout of po-faced negativity. Insstead of presenting a situation whether either you or I have to quit h-costume, and perhaps asking other people to take sides as to which of us should quit, why not do or suggest something constructive? There are technical solutions, if not 100% perfect ones, to the problem of what to do with too much untargeted information on the Internet. For me, filters are more effective than email list digests. If you don't like the idea of filters, what is your constructive suggestion? Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] re: h-cost was Subject Lines - Reinventing the Wheel public replies
Okay, at the risk of posting a me too message, I'd like to see something that would help filter out some of the extra chatty messages. I'm on a lot of email lists and I have limited time to read email some days, so being able to filter out the chat stuff, that I usually do no more than read, or delete unread if I can detect it, would be a great time saver for me. If there is a way that we can do that, it would be great. alex ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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-Original Message- I don't need an insurance inventory, fortunately! Well, everybody might need to claim insurance some day. My in-laws' house burned down in the firestorm in the East Bay some years ago, and it turned out their policy required listing every single item they wanted to claim, down to the skillets and the towels--along with current values. I'm well aware how much work that is, because I did most of it. I'd like to second that. I learned that hard lesson after the San Diego fires in 2003. The insurance company expected us to list each and every item we'd lost AND give them an idea of what they were worth. They also wanted to see the burned carcasses or photos of same. They had a hard time believing $1000 for a tent and hundreds for period camping furniture. Fortunately the books weren't touched. Julie in Ramona/San Diego ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Delicate Subject
Cynthia wrote: On the other hand, even nursing twins, my period was back in about 4-5 months. I don't doubt that it works for some women, but I'd be reluctant to assume it was this way for a majority. I nursed my son until he was 18 months, and nursed exclusively for the first 6 months. My period was back at 9 months. I also wouldn't overlook the extreme popularity of sending the child out to a wetnurse in various times and places. Granted, this was done at least partially to allow the woman to become pregnant more quickly, but it would mean that at least some women who had children would not have experienced long gaps caused by breastfeeding. In addition, although most women married, not all women did, and pubertal or pre-pubertal marriages were often the exception rather than the rule. Also, not all women remarried if they were widowed which would lead to menstruation. So I don't think that we can safely make the assumption that menstruation was such an uncommon experience for pre-modern European women that they didn't have a way of dealing with it. My guess is that some sort of belt arrangement was used, although I have seen an undated woodcut of women in a bath house were one of the women is wearing something cut like bikini underwear, with ties on the side. Although there is no way of knowing *why* she was wearing such a thing, it might have been menstruation related. -Katie -- ___ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Delicate Subject
http://www.mum.org/ fascinating website. Quite a bit of evidence that for some women nothing was used! With regard to sanitary protection, for some women perhaps they didn't need protection that often anyway. A combination of pregnancy and full breast feeding could mean only a fraction of the periods modern women experience. I myself experienced almost 3 blissful years with the pregnancy and feeding of my youngest! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Delicate Subject
Joy Shillaker wrote: A combination of pregnancy and full breast feeding could mean only a fraction of the periods modern women experience. I myself experienced almost 3 blissful years with the pregnancy and feeding of my youngest! On the other hand, even nursing twins, my period was back in about 4-5 months. I don't doubt that it works for some women, but I'd be reluctant to assume it was this way for a majority. -- Cynthia Virtue and/or Cynthia du Pre Argent ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I got a dressmaker's dummy for Christmas (WooHoo!) It's a Uniquely You off of eBay. :-) And she's just my size. :-) I'm wondering about how compressible that they are. Will she squish down indefinately with a corset? Say, should I have one that fits, and then lace her into it to *that* place because on her it will tighten far more than it does on me? I even wondered about making a couple of different shells -- say one for the appropriate level of squished-ness for an Italian -- because I generally don't wear a corset with those. Susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I recently finished an embroidery project using reeled silk. What with my nasty rough hands and putting it into and out of the work bag I can certainly understand covering up all but the part being worked. The bag is gorgeous but snags like crazy. I keep it in a plastic food bag before putting it into my work bag. I'm afraid to wear it because it snags so easily. Julie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H, you have my curiosity up. Isn't the edge of the fabric on the hoop protected by the outer hoop? If it is the rest of the fabric you are worried about then I could see why you'd want to place a piece of tissue paper over the entire embroidery (with the inner hoop underneath) place the outer hoop on top, then tear the paper off where you want to work. Not to argue with Tania-you guys over there call stuff differently than we, but silk paper over here is rather expensive. Tissue paper is really cheap and is mostly used for wrapping gifts. It is the same as the paper most patterns are made of over here (very light and easily torn). ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Since there has been discussion about the sometimes lack of historical accuracy in movie costumes I thought this was interesting. Found it on eBay - something from an old B W movie. Thought it might be good for a grin. http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7538331810ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1 Annette M __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I'm interested too...but for Renaissance. We see beautifully decorated hats at Ren Faires, but I don't think I've ever seen big decorated straw hats in pictures - just plain ones. Julie I made my own hat! I took an old hat made out of straw bands and took it appart to make a hat to go with my bustle gown. But I was wondering if the purple ribbon would be to colour coordinated. Schould I put more stuf on it? Like ribbons or flowers? The dress is very simple... ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
