Re: [h-cost] 20th c. Men's Hats
Wikipedia has a decent little pictorial glossary of hat styles, although some of their definitions don't necessarily match up with modern usage. (Beanies of the propeller type, for example, are not what you're likely to find for sale when you shop for beanies on the interweb...) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hat#Hat_styles -E House, who feels naked unless she's wearing one of her newsboy caps, or at the very least a fedora. If only I could find my old Greek fisherman's cap Oh, how I loved that cap! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 20th c. Men's Hats
what an educational topic! I always thought I knew what a pork pie hat was. I wondered how the heck someone could mistake a pork pie for a fedora, so I googled both. Guess I didn't know what a pork pie hat was afterall! So, what do you call the billed, low-profile caps similar to (but more streamlined) the one on Redford in the Great Gatsby? I always associate these with sports car enthusiasts of a certain age (pre-NASCAR). I think they are also part of the uniform of a vintage golfer, bu tthose tend to be sloppy over the ears. I also didn't know that gibus was the correct name for those pop-up top hats. thanks Denise B ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 20th c. Men's Hats
I always thought I knew what a pork pie hat was. I wondered how the heck someone could mistake a pork pie for a fedora, so I googled both. Guess I didn't know what a pork pie hat was afterall! Frank Lloyd Wright always wore a porkpie hat. -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- “The future is already here, it is just unevenly distributed.” -William Gibson -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 20th c. Men's Hats
So, what do you call the billed, low-profile caps similar to (but more streamlined) the one on Redford in the Great Gatsby? I always associate Melbourne, Australia, early 1970's. If you did not have one of these, you weren't cool. But then, we also went in for flat-front cuffed baggies, contis, Acropolis shoes and platform turn-ups. Ah, those were the days.. -C. This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 20th c. Men's Hats
So, what do you call the billed, low-profile caps similar to (but more streamlined) the one on Redford in the Great Gatsby? An Ivy Caphas a flat top and slouches to the front. If the top is made of several triangular shapes, usually with a button at the point where they meet, we used to call that a Newsie after news boys. Then there a Forage Cap...popular for boys in the mid 19th century. Its had a high band and a sometimes sorta stiff shaped crown... kinda like a cupcake. Let's see if I can find pics... Ivy cap http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4120KGJQHBL.jpg Newsie (they call it a Newsboy) http://fashiontribes.typepad.com/main/images/naj_hats.jpg Forage Cap http://www.horsesoldier.com/catalog/cat27-h31.JPEG Apparently, a Kepi is a type of forage cap and it continues to change style slightly into the turn of the 19th century. In case you don't know what a Kepi is...it's easy to find: http://www.specopstactical.com/shop/catalog/images/store/Rothco/5343.jpg The kind civilian boys often wear in the 1840's I can't find...yet. This is kinda what I mean, though I've seen them with higher bands and poofier crowns. http://www.heritagestudio.com/h48det.jpg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] 20th c. Men's Hats
Howdy, My man has become a Fedora Fanatic and he's asked me for a source showing the evolution of men's hats through the last century, to nail down his preferred styles. He's looking for brim and crown changes over the decades. Can anyone recommend resources for men's styles? 20th C. is right out of my frame of reference. (His too, usually.) Thanks, Regina in L.A. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 20th c. Men's Hats
My man has become a Fedora Fanatic I can't find anything offhand that really gives the evolution, but I imagine someone on this list will. Of course, you can always leaf through the pages of men's magazines (or figuratively, on microfilm.) However, be sure he learns the different styles of hats. For example, there was a bank robber in the Washington DC area who always wore a dress hat while robbing banks, and police called it a fedora, but I wrote a letter to the editor (which was published) pointing out that, the published photo, he was wearing a porkpie. Then you have your homburg--the preferred style to wear with black tie, BTW--and the bowler, of course. My husband is a hat man--your should see his collection in the living room. Sometimes he wears a cloth cap instead of a felt or straw dress hat, but he does have an extensive collection. He even has a gibus (collapsible opera hat.) (My husband also has a beard, and once, when he was wearing his black homburg, someone approached him and asked him where the nearest kosher restaurant was.) Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Regina Lawson reginalaws...@gmail.com To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Sent: Tue, Mar 30, 2010 12:29 pm Subject: [h-cost] 20th c. Men's Hats Howdy, y man has become a Fedora Fanatic and he's asked me for a source showing he evolution of men's hats through the last century, to nail down his referred styles. He's looking for brim and crown changes over the decades. Can anyone recommend resources for men's styles? 20th C. is right out of my rame of reference. (His too, usually.) Thanks, egina in L.A. __ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 20th c. Men's Hats
Try the Sears and other catalogs, many images online. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Regina Lawson Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:29 AM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] 20th c. Men's Hats Howdy, My man has become a Fedora Fanatic and he's asked me for a source showing the evolution of men's hats through the last century, to nail down his preferred styles. He's looking for brim and crown changes over the decades. Can anyone recommend resources for men's styles? 20th C. is right out of my frame of reference. (His too, usually.) Thanks, Regina in L.A. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 20th c. Men's Hats
Try the Sears and other catalogs, many images online. That's a good idea. Also, less systematic but lots of fun, is to watch old movies from different periods. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 20th c. Men's Hats
Regina, The Sears Catalogs that Sharon wrote about are the Dover publications, a decade of fashion from the Sears Catalogs, from the 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s and even the 60s, although Lloyd might not find any men's hats in that one. Each decade is also broken down by year so it's even better than you might imagine for dating particular styles. They're a really good reference series, although if you seldom 'do' the 20th Century, they're not that helpful. I have the set and can bring them with me in August, but I'm sure you'll want information before that. LynnD On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:54 PM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: Try the Sears and other catalogs, many images online. That's a good idea. Also, less systematic but lots of fun, is to watch old movies from different periods. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
