Re: [h-cost] Edwardian maternity dresses
Thanks for the replies everyone, I've passed them on to my friend. I knew this list would have all the answers. Elizabeth --- Elizabeth Walpole Canberra, Australia http://magpiecostumer.110mb.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Edwardian maternity dresses
Thanks Ann, it's a girl this time! A whole new set of outfits to research and make. I just hope she's not a tomboy and wants to wear period dresses. Katy On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Ann Catelli elvestoor...@yahoo.com wrote: Best wishes, Katy. I see some sewing-for-baby in your future, unless you saved some of the tiny clothes I saw your boys in. It has been quite a while. Ann in CT --- On Sun, 4/5/09, Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com wrote: I am currently 6 1/2 months pregnant so I have been thinking about what to wear for the various eras of events I have during this time. 1820s was really easy--my normal dress fit great without any alteration. Also 1860s, just raised the waist (went the sacque and petticoat route last pregnancy); still have to make a gestation stay though. Just last night I wore an 1890s wrapper all dolled up for evening wear to a dance performance. For 1910s here are a few Past Patterns patterns I have found/hope to find useful: This can be adjusted for pregnancy: http://www.pastpatterns.com/8109.html a 1914 tea gown--with pleated front that I would gather for pregnancy, the waist is nice and high. This one: http://www.pastpatterns.com/4269.html a 1911 day dress The waist could be raised a bit and the skirt altered, and I wonder if nursing slits could be hidden under the yoke for post-pregnancy. 2 patterns that actually mention maternity wear, but may be too late in the decade: http://www.pastpatterns.com/8714.html Ladies' Dress. Suitable for maternity or general wear and http://www.pastpatterns.com/9225.html Ladies' Dress. Suitable for maternity wear. I hope to make one of these for a party I have to go to in April, a Ragtime Ball, and then wear post-pregnancy in August at Newport Dance Week. Katy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Edwardian maternity dresses
I figure you're the one I should ask! A friend of mine in America is going to a PEERS picnic in August (Not sure what that is, but I'm guessing it's a historical recreation group) she'll be about 5 months pregnant by then, so she's looking for ANY images of what a pregnant woman would have worn in the Edwardian period (specifically 1910-1914), any suggestions about where she should start looking? So far I've suggested that the empire line fashion of that era should work OK but has anyone got better resources. In this period it wasn't proper to be showing, outside your own house, but women had to go out during pregnancy. So search for things like a box coat, which hangs straight down in front, without a waist. Then, for the event, keep it on. Make it lightweight so you can do this. Outerwear shaped like this show up in the 1880s and are seen straight through the early 1900s. Original sources never, of course, mention pregnancy, which is probably why you can't find it by searching on that. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Edwardian maternity dresses
In a message dated 4/5/2009 11:47:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, katybisho...@gmail.com writes: a 1911 day dress The waist could be raised a bit and the skirt altered, and I wonder if nursing slits could be hidden under the yoke for post-pregnancy. * Good heavens, woman! This is 1912! You aren't supposed to out and about...pregnant and nursing! SeriouslyI like the 1st dress #8109. Imagine it in a busy, Art Nouveau patterned fabric. The lines running down each side front from neckline to hem seem perfect for your condition. Add a narrow scarf that goes around your neck with ends hang to the hem...one in front and one in back maybe? Very spiffy and many elements to detour from a pregnant figure. (I doubt in this era anyone would display their pregnancy... if not try to hide it completely.) **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221621488x1201450096/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooterNO62) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Edwardian maternity dresses
The tea gown or wrapper seems to have been common maternity wear in the late Victorian and Edwardian periods. This is not made very explicit. But if you look at some illos you can see, for example, things like a sack-like front with a very loose waist sash tied at the bottom of the abdomen. And in pattern descriptions, read references to things like can be closed with hooks and eyes or if necessary lacing (the lacing could of course be loosened). Tea gowns and wrappers were made of a much wider variety of materials than the lightweight silks commonly associated with fancy tea gowns, and the homey flannels and calicos associated with morning wrappers. In other words, they were made in materials you could wear all day. I am not sure how much they were worn outside the home. But as someone said, some version of a loose boxy coat was often available and that could cover a lot in terms of not only pregnancy but the gown worn for it. I have an original circa 1911 brown velvet dress with a bertha-like cape that covers a bound slit on each side of the bodice. The skirt is not ample enough for pregnancy, but it's certainly a nursing dress. It's a nice dress and quite suitable for wear outside the home. I did not even realize it was a nursing dress till after I bought it. Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com albert...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/5/2009 11:47:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, katybisho...@gmail.com writes: a 1911 day dress The waist could be raised a bit and the skirt altered, and I wonder if nursing slits could be hidden under the yoke for post-pregnancy. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Edwardian maternity dresses
I own a lovely pink silk day dress about 1894 with lacing for the entire length of the side front seams to let out for pregnancy, probably wouldn't have worked for the entire pregnancy but would have helped disguise the first few months after one has started to show. It has a false jacket front that disguises the lacing and expanding waistline. It is a very high fashion outfit made by a Boston (I think) dressmaker. It's wonderful in that it is actually pretty. I agree that ideally it was not proper to appear very pregnant in public. Disguise is the catch-word. A friend copied an original 1910s 2 piece dress when she was pregnant, the top consisted of a loose, smock-like, top which was belted with a sash at the high waist, above the belly, and a separate skirt. I have come across several articles on maternity sewing in 'teens magazines. Wish I had gathered then together at the time, but I didn't think I'd be pregnant again.:~) Katy On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:10 PM, albert...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/5/2009 11:47:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, katybisho...@gmail.com writes: a 1911 day dress The waist could be raised a bit and the skirt altered, and I wonder if nursing slits could be hidden under the yoke for post-pregnancy. * Good heavens, woman! This is 1912! You aren't supposed to out and about...pregnant and nursing! SeriouslyI like the 1st dress #8109. Imagine it in a busy, Art Nouveau patterned fabric. The lines running down each side front from neckline to hem seem perfect for your condition. Add a narrow scarf that goes around your neck with ends hang to the hem...one in front and one in back maybe? Very spiffy and many elements to detour from a pregnant figure. (I doubt in this era anyone would display their pregnancy... if not try to hide it completely.) **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221621488x1201450096/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooterNO62) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Edwardian maternity dresses
'teens magazines? oh, my. (Sorry) LynnD On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com wrote: I own a lovely pink silk day dress about 1894 with lacing for the entire length of the side front seams to let out for pregnancy, probably wouldn't have worked for the entire pregnancy but would have helped disguise the first few months after one has started to show. It has a false jacket front that disguises the lacing and expanding waistline. It is a very high fashion outfit made by a Boston (I think) dressmaker. It's wonderful in that it is actually pretty. I agree that ideally it was not proper to appear very pregnant in public. Disguise is the catch-word. A friend copied an original 1910s 2 piece dress when she was pregnant, the top consisted of a loose, smock-like, top which was belted with a sash at the high waist, above the belly, and a separate skirt. I have come across several articles on maternity sewing in 'teens magazines. Wish I had gathered then together at the time, but I didn't think I'd be pregnant again.:~) Katy On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:10 PM, albert...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/5/2009 11:47:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, katybisho...@gmail.com writes: a 1911 day dress The waist could be raised a bit and the skirt altered, and I wonder if nursing slits could be hidden under the yoke for post-pregnancy. * Good heavens, woman! This is 1912! You aren't supposed to out and about...pregnant and nursing! SeriouslyI like the 1st dress #8109. Imagine it in a busy, Art Nouveau patterned fabric. The lines running down each side front from neckline to hem seem perfect for your condition. Add a narrow scarf that goes around your neck with ends hang to the hem...one in front and one in back maybe? Very spiffy and many elements to detour from a pregnant figure. (I doubt in this era anyone would display their pregnancy... if not try to hide it completely.) **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! ( http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221621488x1201450096/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooterNO62) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.comhttp://www.vintagevictorian.com/ Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Edwardian maternity dresses
In a message dated 4/6/2009 4:20:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lynndownw...@gmail.com writes: A friend copied an original 1910s 2 piece dress when she was pregnant, the top consisted of a loose, smock-like, top which was belted with a sash at the high waist, above the belly, and a separate skirt. I have come across several articles on maternity sewing in 'teens magazines. Wish I had gathered then together at the time, but I didn't think I'd be pregnant again.:~) ** I wonder if there is some sort of aesthetic dress of the period that would be an unstructured thinglike a Fortuny Delphos dress with its kimono like jacketor something The avante guard was quite chic and acceptable. I watched the film Wings of a Dove again and it reminded me of all the avante guard dress that was going on in upper-crust circles. Charlotte Rampling wears things like hostess pajamas and turbans. A beautifully design, by Sandy Powell, film that was mysteriously eclipsed by the very very inferiorly costumed, and dull, Titanic. **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221621488x1201450096/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooterNO62) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Edwardian maternity dresses
I am currently 6 1/2 months pregnant so I have been thinking about what to wear for the various eras of events I have during this time. 1820s was really easy--my normal dress fit great without any alteration. Also 1860s, just raised the waist (went the sacque and petticoat route last pregnancy); still have to make a gestation stay though. Just last night I wore an 1890s wrapper all dolled up for evening wear to a dance performance. For 1910s here are a few Past Patterns patterns I have found/hope to find useful: This can be adjusted for pregnancy: http://www.pastpatterns.com/8109.html a 1914 tea gown--with pleated front that I would gather for pregnancy, the waist is nice and high. This one: http://www.pastpatterns.com/4269.html a 1911 day dress The waist could be raised a bit and the skirt altered, and I wonder if nursing slits could be hidden under the yoke for post-pregnancy. 2 patterns that actually mention maternity wear, but may be too late in the decade: http://www.pastpatterns.com/8714.html Ladies' Dress. Suitable for maternity or general wear and http://www.pastpatterns.com/9225.html Ladies' Dress. Suitable for maternity wear. I hope to make one of these for a party I have to go to in April, a Ragtime Ball, and then wear post-pregnancy in August at Newport Dance Week. Katy On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Elizabeth Walpole ewalp...@grapevine.com.au wrote: A friend passed this request on to me but I'm not good on the Edwardian era, so I'm passing it on again. I figure you're the one I should ask! A friend of mine in America is going to a PEERS picnic in August (Not sure what that is, but I'm guessing it's a historical recreation group) she'll be about 5 months pregnant by then, so she's looking for ANY images of what a pregnant woman would have worn in the Edwardian period (specifically 1910-1914), any suggestions about where she should start looking? So far I've suggested that the empire line fashion of that era should work OK but has anyone got better resources. Thanks Elizabeth --- Elizabeth Walpole Canberra, Australia http://magpiecostumer.110mb.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Edwardian maternity dresses
A friend passed this request on to me but I'm not good on the Edwardian era, so I'm passing it on again. I figure you're the one I should ask! A friend of mine in America is going to a PEERS picnic in August (Not sure what that is, but I'm guessing it's a historical recreation group) she'll be about 5 months pregnant by then, so she's looking for ANY images of what a pregnant woman would have worn in the Edwardian period (specifically 1910-1914), any suggestions about where she should start looking? So far I've suggested that the empire line fashion of that era should work OK but has anyone got better resources. Thanks Elizabeth --- Elizabeth Walpole Canberra, Australia http://magpiecostumer.110mb.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume