Re: [h-cost] Moliere
It surely is not, its more than 18 years ago i had french lessons in school, and i never used it. So its all forgotten again. If you like the period, you should also look for L'Allée du Roi its a 2 DVD long film about Madame de Maintenon, the mistress of Louis XIV. Its packed with beautifull costumes two. The fontanges in the end, are very varied both in materials and shapes. Its a beautifull film also, only also in french alone. And while we are in it, you also can get Madame de Pompadour also a 2 DVD set about Louis XV' misstres. Also very nice. The french are as good as the BBC when they make their own history. Bjarne - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 11:28 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Moliere In a message dated 7/27/2007 4:21:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: unless your French is much better than mine *** That's a laugh! When we did the miniseries The Wedding, the designer brought all these great 1950's clothes from LA for the extras. Well, they were all size 4 thru 8. The black ladies we had down here in NC couldn't get an arm into them! The designer started calling the big girls Fried Chicken Ladies. Well, we couldn't say that in front of them so we started using Les dames du poulet frit...I mean Les belle dames du poulet frit. There...my French! ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Moliere
In a message dated 7/28/2007 7:49:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The french are as good as the BBC when they make their own history. * They just don't want anyone else to understand it. :-P ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Moliere
In a message dated 7/27/2007 9:07:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You better buy the old DVD with Teatre du Solleils version of Mollieres life. Even it is so old now, the costumes are stunning beautifull... *** I'd love to! If it can be had in region 1 format! :-P Seriously, what is the film's title? What year? Who's in it? A search for Teatre du Solleils gets me no results. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Moliere
And they need some more width in their skirts two. Very scarce fabric use in my oppinion. The lady in the front wears her off the shoulder much two deep two. Bjarne - Original Message - From: otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 5:24 AM Subject: RE: [h-cost] Moliere http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0796335/Ss/0796335/8.jpg.html?hint=group http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0796335/Ss/0796335/13.jpg.html?hint=group not my area of interest but the costumes seem to be close to the era depicted. You may be right about the same style, though the first picture the woman on the left end is different. -Original Message- So, has anyone seen this yet? The trailer is not promising costume-wise. Indeed, the women's gowns look like they are all the same dress in different fabrics. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Moliere
You better buy the old DVD with Teatre du Solleils version of Mollieres life. Even it is so old now, the costumes are stunning beautifull... Bjarne - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 3:10 AM Subject: [h-cost] Moliere So, has anyone seen this yet? The trailer is not promising costume-wise. Indeed, the women's gowns look like they are all the same dress in different fabrics. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Moliere
In a message dated 7/27/2007 9:45:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seriously, what is the film's title? What year? Who's in it? A search for Teatre du Solleils gets me no results. *** Is it this one? From 1978? _http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077941/_ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077941/) ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Moliere
The skirts sure seem to be a skimping on fabric. MaggiRos --- otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0796335/Ss/0796335/8.jpg.html?hint=group http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0796335/Ss/0796335/13.jpg.html?hint=group not my area of interest but the costumes seem to be close to the era depicted. You may be right about the same style, though the first picture the woman on the left end is different. -Original Message- So, has anyone seen this yet? The trailer is not promising costume-wise. Indeed, the women's gowns look like they are all the same dress in different fabrics. ~Fog is just a cloud that lacks the will to fly. Bill Bryson, A Short History of Practically Everything ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Moliere
Wouldnt the skits have more understructure? I forget what they wore under them in this period but it seems they should be sticking out a bit more. Sylrog On Jul 27, 2007, at 11:04 AM, MaggiRos wrote: The skirts sure seem to be a skimping on fabric. MaggiRos --- otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0796335/Ss/0796335/8.jpg.html?hint=group http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0796335/Ss/0796335/13.jpg.html? hint=group not my area of interest but the costumes seem to be close to the era depicted. You may be right about the same style, though the first picture the woman on the left end is different. -Original Message- So, has anyone seen this yet? The trailer is not promising costume-wise. Indeed, the women's gowns look like they are all the same dress in different fabrics. ~Fog is just a cloud that lacks the will to fly. Bill Bryson, A Short History of Practically Everything ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Moliere
Sylvia Rognstad wrote: Wouldnt the skits have more understructure? I forget what they wore under them in this period but it seems they should be sticking out a bit more. There's an image at IMDB showing one woman in the foreground, with many women sitting in the background. You can easily see their knees outlined by the skirts. cv ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Moliere
I don't think so. It's 1665 or so, right? Lots of petticotes, but the farthingale is out and the panniere hasn't come in. A long corset, some kind of bum roll, but no frame for the skirt. Think of Faye Dunnaway getting undressed in the Richard Lester Three Musketeers. Yes, that's earlier but the idea is similar. Enough fabric in the skirts, and cutting the panels in gores instead of squares, would make them drape properly, which is probably what you're reacting to. MaggiRos ~not my era but I spent a lot of time researching the clothes for a novel. --- Sylvia Rognstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldnt the skits have more understructure? I forget what they wore under them in this period but it seems they should be sticking out a bit more. Sylrog On Jul 27, 2007, at 11:04 AM, MaggiRos wrote: The skirts sure seem to be a skimping on fabric. MaggiRos --- otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0796335/Ss/0796335/8.jpg.html?hint=group http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0796335/Ss/0796335/13.jpg.html? hint=group not my area of interest but the costumes seem to be close to the era depicted. You may be right about the same style, though the first picture the woman on the left end is different. -Original Message- So, has anyone seen this yet? The trailer is not promising costume-wise. Indeed, the women's gowns look like they are all the same dress in different fabrics. ~Fog is just a cloud that lacks the will to fly. Bill Bryson, A Short History of Practically Everything ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ~Fog is just a cloud that lacks the will to fly. Bill Bryson, A Short History of Practically Everything ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Moliere
Hi, Yes this is the title. Then you can have it after all Bjarne - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Moliere In a message dated 7/27/2007 9:45:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seriously, what is the film's title? What year? Who's in it? A search for Teatre du Solleils gets me no results. *** Is it this one? From 1978? _http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077941/_ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077941/) ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Moliere
Amazon.com has two (from the used and new sellers) but the user reviews tell us the Region 1 version has no subtitles. Have to watch it just for the pictures, I guess, unless your French is much better than mine. No no, go ahead. I won't grab it. :-) MaggiRos --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/27/2007 9:45:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seriously, what is the film's title? What year? Who's in it? A search for Teatre du Solleils gets me no results. *** Is it this one? From 1978? _http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077941/_ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077941/) ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ~Fog is just a cloud that lacks the will to fly. Bill Bryson, A Short History of Practically Everything ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Moliere
It would be a problem with the regions. I got mine from Amazon france. Only in french and no text, but i baught it for the eyecandy. And its a long film, more than 3 hours. The time is brilliant, starting with the cavallier style when he was a child, and see how the styles changes trough the times, at the end the fontanges are in fashion... Bjarne - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Moliere In a message dated 7/27/2007 9:07:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You better buy the old DVD with Teatre du Solleils version of Mollieres life. Even it is so old now, the costumes are stunning beautifull... *** I'd love to! If it can be had in region 1 format! :-P Seriously, what is the film's title? What year? Who's in it? A search for Teatre du Solleils gets me no results. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Moliere
In a message dated 7/27/2007 4:21:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: unless your French is much better than mine *** That's a laugh! When we did the miniseries The Wedding, the designer brought all these great 1950's clothes from LA for the extras. Well, they were all size 4 thru 8. The black ladies we had down here in NC couldn't get an arm into them! The designer started calling the big girls Fried Chicken Ladies. Well, we couldn't say that in front of them so we started using Les dames du poulet frit...I mean Les belle dames du poulet frit. There...my French! ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Moliere
In a message dated 7/27/2007 1:27:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Enough fabric in the skirts, and cutting the panels in gores instead of squares, would make them drape properly, which is probably what you're reacting to. Looks more 1640smaybe 1650s, because this takes place before the great plays were written. [Another great artists have no imagination but everything is autobiographical film...like Amadeus or Immortal Beloved...yuck!] 1650s...which makes me think Vermeer or ter Borch. By then the bodice usually has a boned lining that is really a corset and skirts are not skimpy but don't have much underpinnings. Maybe a petticoat. They fall straight in deep pleats from the cartridge pleating. These yardages might be good for a maid, but not ladies in society. And the decollatage is too low. There's just not much variety in the gowns. They are all the same. Remember the Cyrano with Gerard Depardue? Think of all the different...and correct looks on the women in that film. Not here! It reminded me of the skimpiness you see in some recent 17th century films, like Marie Antoinette... which doesn't translate as skimpiness but rather a kind of delicateness. This is in keeping with the type of decoration you see in the late 17th century. But the Baroque sensibility is heavier, more lush and thick with ornament. It doesn't work in Moliere. IMHO of course ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Moliere
In a message dated 7/27/2007 5:19:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is in keeping with the type of decoration you see in the late 17th century. oops...I meant the 18th century ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Moliere
So, has anyone seen this yet? The trailer is not promising costume-wise. Indeed, the women's gowns look like they are all the same dress in different fabrics. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Moliere
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0796335/Ss/0796335/8.jpg.html?hint=group http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0796335/Ss/0796335/13.jpg.html?hint=group not my area of interest but the costumes seem to be close to the era depicted. You may be right about the same style, though the first picture the woman on the left end is different. -Original Message- So, has anyone seen this yet? The trailer is not promising costume-wise. Indeed, the women's gowns look like they are all the same dress in different fabrics. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
