Re: [h-cost] beginner sewing machine

2012-02-08 Thread Rickard, Patty
Was that the one that would actually do round buttonhole?
Patty

since I moved from my mom's early 1950s Singer with the nifty buttonhole foot 
accessory. That was a wonder!
Lynn


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Re: [h-cost] beginner sewing machine

2012-02-08 Thread Lynn Downward
Yes it did, and I couldn't figure out (then) why anyone would need a round
buttonhole. Now I can think of several uses for it.
Lynn

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Rickard, Patty ricka...@mountunion.eduwrote:

 Was that the one that would actually do round buttonhole?
 Patty

 since I moved from my mom's early 1950s Singer with the nifty buttonhole
 foot accessory. That was a wonder!
 Lynn


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Re: [h-cost] beginner sewing machine

2012-02-08 Thread Rickard, Patty
I had one of those  assumed that that all machines did it. Woe unto me when I 
got a new machine  had to make eyelet holes by hand. Probably better in any 
case, but I wasn't a  stickler for authenticity in the old days.
Patty


Yes it did, and I couldn't figure out (then) why anyone would need a round 
buttonhole. Now I can think of several uses for it.
Lynn


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Re: [h-cost] beginner sewing machine

2012-02-07 Thread Ann Catelli
I still love my 1592 Singer machine, a.k.a. cast-iron boat anchor.  Forwards  
backwards through anything--lightweight cloth no problem, corsets easily built.


I learned on my mom's machine of the same sort.  Hers came in a cabinet, and 
had a knee pedal--very useful when one is too short to reach both the machine  
any floor pedal.

Ann in CT




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I have been asked by a friend who has a daughter who wants to learn to
sew to make costumes to come to our vintage dances.  She asked what
would be a good starter machine.  Does any one here have
recommendations?  Thanks.

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Re: [h-cost] beginner sewing machine

2012-02-07 Thread AVCHASE
My grandmother taught me to sew on her long bobbin treadle machine. I was given 
a hand cranked chain stitch machine that year for Christmas which made me cry 
because, at 12, I didn't consider it real. My mother used a 1939 White Rotary 
that I was allowed to use when I got glasses. Thanks to my Grandmother's 
training my mother was surprised to learn that I sewed as well as she.
I have had a number of different machines; 1923 Singer portable, 1959 Brother, 
an old Singer the year of which I don't remember.
Presently I have an old Elna straight stitch and a Denim and Silk EuroPro.
I think what the beginner needs is a good teacher first and then a simple 
machine for starters. Something sturdy and tough but gentle. 
Audy 

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[h-cost] beginner sewing machine

2012-02-07 Thread lynn
I'd like to second the old Kenmore machines of the late 70's are
workhorses. I was given one for my 8th grade graduation. I have sewn many a
delicate wedding gown and delicates to tent repairs and leather.  It is an
all metal workhorse.  I have had it actually repaired twice in my life.  I
just got a new machine with all the bells and whistles more because I
wanted it then needed but the repair shop insisted I should hang on to the
kenmore because it's a solid machine.  Clearly the different years are
vastly different and not the same at all.  I would recommend one because
they are so simple to use. All the new Kenmores are awful, all plastice

Oh and Hi everyone :)

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Re: [h-cost] beginner sewing machine

2012-02-07 Thread Lynn Downward
Yes, my Kenmore was from 1973 and it has run like iron except when it was
new and I didn't oil it. I've had it in once for a timing issue but it's
been wonderful ever since. I have a couple of other machines but use this
one most. I bought an inexpensive Singer a couple of years ago because it
was lightweight and it did an amazing button hole, something no machine
I've ever owned has done. I take it to Costume College and pull it out when
I need button holes and it's fine. I will never give up my Kenmore; it's
like an old VW - it just keeps running.
LynnD

On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:24 AM, lynn tlynn1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'd like to second the old Kenmore machines of the late 70's are
 workhorses. I was given one for my 8th grade graduation. I have sewn many a
 delicate wedding gown and delicates to tent repairs and leather.  It is an
 all metal workhorse.  I have had it actually repaired twice in my life.  I
 just got a new machine with all the bells and whistles more because I
 wanted it then needed but the repair shop insisted I should hang on to the
 kenmore because it's a solid machine.  Clearly the different years are
 vastly different and not the same at all.  I would recommend one because
 they are so simple to use. All the new Kenmores are awful, all plastice

 Oh and Hi everyone :)

 Tanya
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Re: [h-cost] beginner sewing machine

2012-02-07 Thread Alexandria Doyle
So what was the model number of the amazing buttonhole machine?

alex
seriously considering purchasing a machine just for the buttonhole
feature, but still prefers her 1954 Pfaff, another of those workhorses
that does sews everything but buttonholes.


So much to do and so little attention span to get it done with…



On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com wrote:
  I bought an inexpensive Singer a couple of years ago because it was 
 lightweight and it did an amazing button hole, something no machine
 I've ever owned has done.

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Re: [h-cost] beginner sewing machine

2012-02-07 Thread Lynn Downward
Not at home, so I can't be certain. It's either a Singer Tradition 2250 or
2259 or an Esteem II 2273. They all seem to have the same manual. Actually,
the machine was on sale at Target for $69 instead of the usual $89 or $99
and didn't come with a manual; I had to download it from the Singer website
- therefore my confusion. It's the first machine I've owned that had a
one-step buttonhole since I moved from my mom's early 1950s Singer with the
nifty buttonhole foot accessory. That was a wonder!
Lynn

On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Alexandria Doyle garbaho...@gmail.comwrote:

 So what was the model number of the amazing buttonhole machine?

 alex
 seriously considering purchasing a machine just for the buttonhole
 feature, but still prefers her 1954 Pfaff, another of those workhorses
 that does sews everything but buttonholes.


 So much to do and so little attention span to get it done with…



 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   I bought an inexpensive Singer a couple of years ago because it was
 lightweight and it did an amazing button hole, something no machine
  I've ever owned has done.

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Re: [h-cost] beginner sewing machine

2012-02-07 Thread Pierre Sandy Pettinger
Yes, I have an older Kenmore as well - not used much anymore, except 
for really heavy-duty stuff I don't want to risk my fancy computer 
machine on.  Main reason I went away from it was it was one of that 
short time period of the Super Hi-Bar foot shank - meaning if Sears 
didn't make a foot for it, you were SOL.  My sewing needs had 
progressed to where I needed the other feet.


Sandy

At 01:24 PM 2/7/2012, you wrote:

I'd like to second the old Kenmore machines of the late 70's are
workhorses. I was given one for my 8th grade graduation. I have sewn many a
delicate wedding gown and delicates to tent repairs and leather.  It is an
all metal workhorse.  I have had it actually repaired twice in my life.  I
just got a new machine with all the bells and whistles more because I
wanted it then needed but the repair shop insisted I should hang on to the
kenmore because it's a solid machine.  Clearly the different years are
vastly different and not the same at all.  I would recommend one because
they are so simple to use. All the new Kenmores are awful, all plastice

Oh and Hi everyone :)

Tanya
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[h-cost] beginner sewing machine

2012-02-06 Thread Katy Bishop
I have been asked by a friend who has a daughter who wants to learn to
sew to make costumes to come to our vintage dances.  She asked what
would be a good starter machine.  Does any one here have
recommendations?  Thanks.

-- 
Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian
katybisho...@gmail.com                www.VintageVictorian.com
     Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era.
      Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books.

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Re: [h-cost] beginner sewing machine

2012-02-06 Thread Wicked Frau
If you want to purchase a new machine, I recommend the lower end models of
Babylock.  I recently went looking on a similar quest and found that for
the price they seem to offer the most.  Side by side with other machines,
they made the least noise.  I was really surprised at how clickity clack
the Pfaff and Bernina were.  This may sound silly, but I figure if my
machine is making noises brand new, it can mean nothing but wear and
failure over the long  haul.

My preference however is to work on all metal vintage machines.  My newest
is a 1947 Kenmore (which was actually made in Germany).   I have 2 singers
one of which is a Featherweight.  Both are from the early 1900s.

I am sure you will get LOTS of differing opinions on this however!

Sg



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 I have been asked by a friend who has a daughter who wants to learn to
 sew to make costumes to come to our vintage dances.  She asked what
 would be a good starter machine.  Does any one here have
 recommendations?  Thanks.

 --
 Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian
 katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com
  Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era.
   Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books.

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Re: [h-cost] beginner sewing machine

2012-02-06 Thread lisa58
I still love my Sears Kenmore (I've had it for 25 years), and I
recommend the newer ones as well.  They are not expensive and my feeling
is that a plain machine that can do straight and zog-zag is more than
enough for a beginning sewer.  If well-maintained they should work well
forever.

Yorus in cosutming, LisaA 

On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 10:17:50 -0500 Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com
writes:
 I have been asked by a friend who has a daughter who wants to learn 
 to
 sew to make costumes to come to our vintage dances.  She asked what
 would be a good starter machine.  Does any one here have
 recommendations?  Thanks.
 
 -- 
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 katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com
  Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era.
   Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books.
 
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Re: [h-cost] beginner sewing machine

2012-02-06 Thread michaeljdeib...@gmail.com
After sewing using my mothers machine, I picked up an older metal machine from 
St. Vincent De Paul for $7. Swapped out the electrical plug and it works 
amazingly. Can't determine the brand or year but it's held up better than my 
mothers machine. Many of the newer machines out there are mostly plastic, 
unless you go for higher end models. Unless she plans on quilting or doing 
fancy stitching, stock with a basic zig-zag machine - especially if she plans 
on sewing historical costumes. I personally would rather put my money into 
better materials than a fancy new machine where I only use a few stitches on 
out of the hundred it can do, but that's me. 

Michael Deibert
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On Feb 6, 2012, at 11:04, Wicked Frau wickedf...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you want to purchase a new machine, I recommend the lower end models of
 Babylock.  I recently went looking on a similar quest and found that for
 the price they seem to offer the most.  Side by side with other machines,
 they made the least noise.  I was really surprised at how clickity clack
 the Pfaff and Bernina were.  This may sound silly, but I figure if my
 machine is making noises brand new, it can mean nothing but wear and
 failure over the long  haul.
 
 My preference however is to work on all metal vintage machines.  My newest
 is a 1947 Kenmore (which was actually made in Germany).   I have 2 singers
 one of which is a Featherweight.  Both are from the early 1900s.
 
 I am sure you will get LOTS of differing opinions on this however!
 
 Sg
 
 
 
 On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have been asked by a friend who has a daughter who wants to learn to
 sew to make costumes to come to our vintage dances.  She asked what
 would be a good starter machine.  Does any one here have
 recommendations?  Thanks.
 
 --
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 katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com
 Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era.
  Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books.
 
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Re: [h-cost] beginner sewing machine

2012-02-06 Thread Kim Baird
It's not the number of stitches that's important, it's the quality of the
stitch.

I have a treadle Singer from the 1920's. It sews a beautiful stitch. But
it's definitely NOT easy to use.

The beauty of a modern, computerized machine lies in its user-friendly
features, such as needle-stop down, and electronic stitch control in the
presser foot. I really use the knee lever on my Bernina to raise and lower
the presser foot, too. It's like having a 3rd hand.

I'm sorry to say that most sewing machine retailers remind me of snake oil
salesmen. (NOTE: I did say most, not all.) Try to listen to them only with
one ear, and take what they say with a grain of salt. But do bring your own
fabric, the type you most often use, and insist on doing some test sewing.
You are the one who will be using the machine, not the salesperson, You need
to try it out.

My recommendation would be to look for a good, sturdy used machine. Start by
looking for a Bernina (not Bernette).

Kim

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Re: [h-cost] beginner sewing machine

2012-02-06 Thread Marjorie Wilser

For any who want an old metal machine:

I would recommend against the Kenmore. I grew up using (and cussing!)  
my mother's ca 1962 Kenmore. It *ate* thinner fabrics. I used it  
periodically to mend my Dad's clothing when home for visits, and even  
with years more experience sewing, I never made peace with the clunker.


In fact, it's available in Santa Barbara, California if anyone's  
interested. Decent modern cabinet and quite clean. Make an offer :)


My personal take about Bernina is that the knee lever was made for  
short people. Hated that so-called feature.


I ended up with a Pfaff about 20 years ago and I utterly love it.  
Wonderfully solid machine.


==Marjorie

On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Kim Baird wrote:

It's not the number of stitches that's important, it's the quality  
of the

stitch.

I have a treadle Singer from the 1920's. It sews a beautiful stitch.  
But

it's definitely NOT easy to use.

The beauty of a modern, computerized machine lies in its user-friendly
features, such as needle-stop down, and electronic stitch control in  
the
presser foot. I really use the knee lever on my Bernina to raise and  
lower

the presser foot, too. It's like having a 3rd hand.

I'm sorry to say that most sewing machine retailers remind me of  
snake oil
salesmen. (NOTE: I did say most, not all.) Try to listen to them  
only with
one ear, and take what they say with a grain of salt. But do bring  
your own
fabric, the type you most often use, and insist on doing some test  
sewing.
You are the one who will be using the machine, not the salesperson,  
You need

to try it out.

My recommendation would be to look for a good, sturdy used machine.  
Start by

looking for a Bernina (not Bernette).

Kim

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Re: [h-cost] beginner sewing machine

2012-02-06 Thread Andrew Trembley
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would recommend against the Kenmore. I grew up using (and cussing!) my
 mother's ca 1962 Kenmore. It *ate* thinner fabrics. I used it periodically
 to mend my Dad's clothing when home for visits, and even with years more
 experience sewing, I never made peace with the clunker.


Kenmore machines were (and still are) made for Sears/Kenmore by whatever
manufacturer Sears is contracting with at the moment.

For decades, they were made by White (excellent machines), but by the early
60's they switched to foreign manufacturers. That pretty much killed White,
now it's just a name that's been passed around between different companies
that bought and sold the trademark. In the late 70's to mid 80's Sears was
using a pretty good Japanese manufacturer (no, I don't know which one), but
it's totally a YMMV situation.

andy
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