Re: [h-cost] help finding a painting
2007/10/24, Chris Laning [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Oct 23, 2007, at 6:23 AM, Elizabeth Walpole wrote: This is not directly clothing related but does anybody know where I can find a painting that shows the visitation (the bit in the bible where Mary visits Elizabeth) with a sort of x-ray view where you can see both the unborn babies (Jesus and John the Baptist) on their mothers stomachs. ... Fortunately or unfortunately for you, there is not just one such painting -- it's a fairly common theme. Thanks for looking these up. In most of these pictures, Mary doesn't wear a headdress/veil. She's a virgin! Apparently not married... B arbara M arien ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] help finding a painting
This is not directly clothing related but does anybody know where I can find a painting that shows the visitation (the bit in the bible where Mary visits Elizabeth) with a sort of x-ray view where you can see both the unborn babies (Jesus and John the Baptist) on their mothers stomachs. From memory it's 14th or 15th century Italian and I think one mother is wearing pink and the other blue but I may be mistaken. I was talking to a friend about it but without an artist or reasonably unique title a google image search didn't turn up anything useful. To bring this back to clothing, I think it would be fun to recreate the painting by painting or printing a picture of a baby onto a dress. thanks Elizabeth Elizabeth Walpole Canberra Australia ewalpole[at]tpg.com.au http://au.geocities.com/amiperiodornot/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] help finding a painting
Quoting Elizabeth Walpole [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is not directly clothing related but does anybody know where I can find a painting that shows the visitation (the bit in the bible where Mary visits Elizabeth) with a sort of x-ray view where you can see both the unborn babies (Jesus and John the Baptist) on their mothers stomachs. From memory it's 14th or 15th century Italian and I think one mother is wearing pink and the other blue but I may be mistaken. I was talking to a friend about it but without an artist or reasonably unique title a google image search didn't turn up anything useful. To bring this back to clothing, I think it would be fun to recreate the painting by painting or printing a picture of a baby onto a dress. thanks Elizabeth, I have one like that, but I'm at school and it's at home. I'll email it to you tonight. susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College Division of Science and Math http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] help finding a painting
Elizabeth wrote: This is not directly clothing related but does anybody know where I can find a painting that shows the visitation (the bit in the bible where Mary visits Elizabeth) with a sort of x-ray view where you can see both the unborn babies (Jesus and John the Baptist) on their mothers stomachs. From memory it's 14th or 15th century Italian and I think one mother is wearing pink and the other blue but I may be mistaken. I was talking to a friend about it but without an artist or reasonably unique title a google image search didn't turn up anything useful. To bring this back to clothing, I think it would be fun to recreate the painting by painting or printing a picture of a baby onto a dress. The painting is The Meeting of Mary and Elisabeth by Max Reichlich, Austrian, ca 1513. It's up on Web Gallery of Art. I was interested in the jug and the beverage flask, but the fetuses doing the meet-and-greet between the pregnant bellies are what made the picture really memorable... Enjoy, -Helen/Aidan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] help finding a painting
On Oct 23, 2007, at 6:23 AM, Elizabeth Walpole wrote: This is not directly clothing related but does anybody know where I can find a painting that shows the visitation (the bit in the bible where Mary visits Elizabeth) with a sort of x-ray view where you can see both the unborn babies (Jesus and John the Baptist) on their mothers stomachs. From memory it's 14th or 15th century Italian and I think one mother is wearing pink and the other blue but I may be mistaken. I was talking to a friend about it but without an artist or reasonably unique title a google image search didn't turn up anything useful. To bring this back to clothing, I think it would be fun to recreate the painting by painting or printing a picture of a baby onto a dress. Fortunately or unfortunately for you, there is not just one such painting -- it's a fairly common theme. However, my favorite is the one I made a LOLsaints picture out of it's here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/claning/1057360496/in/ set-72157601285300832/ (P.S. Safe for work, but not for the humorless :) Now that I look at that one again, it's one of the type where only one infant, the future John the Baptist, is actually shown. I do have at least one that shows both infants. Aha! It's from REALonline http://www.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/realonline/ which is an excellent image source for paintings, sculpture, et cetera in Austria. Go there, select Bildthema from the drop-down menu, and search on Heimsuchung Mariens (without the quotes) and you will get well over 100 Visitation paintings when you click on Zeige Bilder (see pictures). The one I have in mind is their picture number (Bildnummern) #000225. A direct link to just the picture is: http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7000108.JPG The information on the main site (which uses frames) says as follows: Tempera on wood, wing panel of an altar. Artist unknown, Upper Austria, 1490-1500. Now in the collection of Krems Cathedral, Austria. Aha, here's another one: http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/ images/7001442.JPG Another altar wing panel, tempera on wood, by the Master of the Pfarrwerfener Altar, probably painted in Salzburg around 1425-1430. Now in the Museum Carolino Augusteum in Salzburg. There's an interesting book stand in this one too: a detail is at http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7001444.JPG Others I saw in a quick run-through: http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7013861.JPG or picture #012952 Each lady has a gold oval on her belly and I think I can see images of babies in both. http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7013000.JPG or picture #012305 This one's especially interesting, with the two babies seemingly kneeling in the air in front of their mothers. http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7006475.JPG or picture #008153 (I am sorely tempted to caption this one MY halo is bigger than YOUR halo...) http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7006314.JPG or picture #004678 This one just has gold stars on both ladies' bellies. And there are at least a couple more. The one I made into a LOLsaints icon is also from REALonline, picture #000907 Direct link: http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7002773.JPG Yet another altar wing panel, in tempera on wood by Konrad von Friesach of Kärnten, 1450-1460. Have fun! OChris Laning [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] help finding a painting
On Oct 23, 2007, at 2:34 PM, Helen Pinto wrote: The painting is The Meeting of Mary and Elisabeth by Max Reichlich, Austrian, ca 1513. It's up on Web Gallery of Art. I was interested in the jug and the beverage flask, but the fetuses doing the meet-and-greet between the pregnant bellies are what made the picture really memorable... I have to admit, it's the only one I've seen where it looks like the babies are giving each other high-fives! OChris Laning [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
