Re: [hackers] Status update
What I'm doing: *deanspace.org webmaster *event, make_block, and export modules (export is done for now) *maybe a theme *helping any Iowa or Champaign-Urbana sites get started -Neil -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: ndrumm3 http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~ndrumm
[hackers] Transparency
Right now we are kinda opaque. People have to sign up to see whats going on. I can do whatever with the Drupal permissions or even use a second instance of Drupal for our internal communicaion. Are we okay with letting our lurkers be anonymous? I plan on letting them have privileges to view most things. -Neil
Re: [hackers] sidebar.module
I'd like to avoid javascript if at all possible. Doing stuff server side is almost always better. We are looking for flexibility and easy administration. -Neil Original message Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:34:55 -0700 From: Lynn Siprelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hackers] sidebar.module To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zephyr: I would like to see at least three RSS 2.0 feeds from DFA: -hot items which admins will be encouraged to automatically show (bats) -everything else which site admins can pick and choose from, new items might not auto show -DeanTeam thermometer for a single team member -and maybe some feeds with other styles or targeted subsets Question: Couldn't this be easily handled with a javascript call so that DFA could just plug in whatever they wanted? Or are we aiming for uber-flexibility? Just wondering. Lynn S. - Lynn Siprelle * Writer, Mother, Programmer, Fiber Artisan The New Homemaker: http://www.newhomemaker.com/ Siprelle Associates: http://www.siprelle.com/ People-Powered Howard! http://www.deanforamerica.com/
[hackers] make_block.module
After some talking with Moshe, sidebar.module has become a much simpler make_block.module. The new module will fit into Drupal much better. The design doc is at: http://www.hack4dean.org/phpwiki/index.php?make_block This page is a bit sparse on implementation details and heavy on design issues for content creators such as DFA. Make sure if you forward this to someone who is not familiar with Drupal they know node is a peice of content and a blocks make a sidebar. As for tools DFA can use to make this, they should be able to use anything that creates RSS as the feed will involve nothing special. Here are my current ideas for DFA generated feeds: -linked images such as those on the right side of DFA's website -text, possibly with icons -thermometer or other views of DeanTeam progress for each team
[hackers] CVS modules and server
Right now we have a CVS module for every module we are doing a lot of work on and some defunct modules. At some point we should move to having an entire Drupal distribution which will become our kit in CVS. SourceForge's CVS servers are quite busy and we may want to consider hosting this ourselves. SF CVS will get the job done, but something hosted through DeanSpace might be quicker and have better uptime. If we have someone who is willing to admin a CVS server (I am not experinced enough) and our DeanSpace hosting allows it I think we should go ahead and host our own CVS for this. -Neil
Re: [hackers] PHP hosting recommendations for DeanSpace?
Multiple MySQL DBs would be rather nice. We could easily run multiple insances of Drupal then (our site, sample site, development site, sandboxes for developers). Also what will be the file access scheme? Will multiple developers be able to change files they control around like they can on the SourceForge sandbox? -Neil -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: ndrumm3 http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~ndrumm On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, John P. Hoke wrote: I currently use PSekHosting.com and they are great ... I have a 20g transfer plan for like 179/year and up 20 domains (with unlimited subdomains and 20 mySQL dbs, etc) -John John P. Hoke [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://john.hoke.org My gpg public key is available at http://www.hoke.org/pubkey.php -- Random thoughts... In my wanderings I have run across magic many times -- which simply says that I have seen wonders I could not explain. --Lazurus Long, Time Enough For Love - Howard Dean for President 2004! http://www.deanforamerica.com On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 19:02, CMR wrote: We're ready to move on this but wanted to get everyone's input on a good php/mysql-friendly hosting outfit; we're looking at either http://www.neureal.com or http://www.ixwebhosting.com/ currently; similar deals; we figure 20 gigs transfer a mon will be plenty; good price/features/reliability/support ratio is the dream Thanks CMR --enter gratuitous quotation that implies my profundity here--
[hackers] Event 0.3.2 released
Fixed a couple annoying things: for events to be in the upcoming events block or feed they had to be promoted and searching events by day searched in the server's timezone, not yours. If you happen to be upgrading only event.module changed. This should be the last release before 0.4 which will have an online RSVP option which means nondestructive database changes. -Neil -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: ndrumm3 http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~ndrumm
[hackers] sidebar.module
Design Doc: http://www.hack4dean.org/phpwiki/index.php?sidebar This module will enable admins to create sidebars such as those on the right side of DFA's website and share elements using RSS. Zephyr: I would like to see at least three RSS 2.0 feeds from DFA: -hot items which admins will be encouraged to automatically show (bats) -everything else which site admins can pick and choose from, new items might not auto show -DeanTeam thermometer for a single team member -and maybe some feeds with other styles or targeted subsets I will see how big of a dent in the coding I can make tonight and will post to CVS. -Neil -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: ndrumm3 http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~ndrumm
[hackers] Themes 0.4 released
Download: http://sf.net/projects/dean/ Test: http://dean.sf.net/ Notes:Added aldon4dean and campaign. Updated bluesky and supersimpledean. Added a README and CREDITS. -Neil -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: ndrumm3 http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~ndrumm
[hackers] Themes upgraded in SF sandbox
See them in action: http://dean.sourceforge.net/ Download them for yourself: http://sourceforge.net/projects/dean/ Changes: bluesky - removed screenshots and fixed footer Dean01 - fixed footer simpledean - newer version supersimpledean - new theme Let me know if you change your theme included in this distribution and if you have any more themes to include. Great work making these, keep it up. -Neil -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: ndrumm3 http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~ndrumm
Re: [hackers] A current endorse dean page...
From what I know about endorse it is a form you fill out and spam all your friends with some premade Dean messages. That link looks like something to gather names (which we can also do, where do we put them?). The deanvolunteers page is closer to the talent database. How is that part going? We won't be duplicating or conflicting with the DeanVolunteers effort if we make that will we? -Neil Original message Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 13:03:42 -0400 From: Shannon Little [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hackers] A current endorse dean page... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here is the link: http://www.deanvolunteers.org/DeanVolunteers/top_ten.asp#7
[hackers] Drupal modules status
Apparently we are supposed to finish these within a week so I should report our status and ask for any direction or help. event.module is working nicely, but still has some rough edges. I am going to clean it up a bit today and tomorrow. export.module is working well. It might need some more tags such as category and something to store the site's zipcode if it wants to be on a dynamically generated map. I know about category, but would like specific suggestions on other tags. I will add in import.module Moshe has a working version in his sandbox. As far as I know everything is working as it should execept aggregating special node types (particularly event). And now for the bad news; that is all I know of that is working and being worked on. We still have action, endorse, mailinglist, and media to build. I believe the design of action and media are still being worked out on this list. Endorse should be straightforward for anyone that wants to do it (if I do it, which I will if needed, I want to see some samples or a simple mockup). There are some great ideas for mailinglist in the wiki. We need to get the specific functionality of these modules nailed down and in the wiki. Once that is done we need people to sit down for a few hours and get them done. -Neil
[hackers] Themes released on SourceForge
I put bluesky, simpledean, and Dean01 in a single tarball and released them on http://sf.net/projects/dean/. I will install them on http://dean.sf.net/ as soon as that web server decides to cooperate (probably by later tonight) so you can try them out for yourself. Has anyone contacted the people running http://indianafordean.org/ yet? Their site is themed nicely and we might want to grab that. -Neil
[hackers] Footers in themes
From what I have seen none of the three themes properly include the footer. This is necessary for sites which would like to use a nonstandard footer (of course the defualt ones will have a creative commons logo and a disclaimer). For example the SourceFogre sandbox includes a SourceForge icon in the footer that SF requires to be visible and generates the statistics. For this reason I am going to turn marvin back on as the default. Dean01 could use some text in the header like simpledean uses. -Neil
Re: [hackers] [developers] SourceForge sandbox and code licenses
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, zrosen wrote: I dont know enough about code liscenses to comment on which to choose. Id suspect though if Drupal is GNU GPL and most things are GNU GPL the GNU GPL is just fine, and we cant change it anyway - because that is what Drupal is. Amd I wrong? Drupal and most of its modules are GNU GPL, but our modules don't have to be. I've done a bit of copy/paste coding so mine must be GNU GPL. The way we distribute everything might require it to all be GPLed. So everyone making a module should use the GNU GPL. If you don't want that for some reason I'll look through the license and see if there are specifics that allow it. -Neil -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: ndrumm3 http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~ndrumm
Re: [hackers] Names and Domains
First, thank you for taking a stab at themes. I hope all is going well for you and everone else in that area. Please let us know when you have something. Before anyone goes and buys things there are probably FEC rules. I think I saw something come over the list saying there was a $250 personal max, but don't quote me on that. Because of our unclear legal status we should be careful in that area. For now I think having each site find its own hosting is best. If a site is willing and has the resources we can put other area sites on their server. Our legal status should clear up soon so we can feel free to make definitive decisions on this. Having said that we should find places which will cooperate with us and individual sites for hosting. If we have a list of these ready we can get individual sites up quicker. I will start a page on the wiki under OpenDecisons for us to catalog these potential hosting providers and discuss issues. We will need a place to put our server which will house MetaDean. It looks like the current home of americansfordean.com isn't quite up to it. I should note that I have never run a high traffic website or bought hosting so I am not an expert on this issue. I can make a rough estimate for bandwidth or pocessor use, but I don't think any of us quite know how big this will get. As for domain names, I think that also is being limited by our ambiguous status. As far as I can tell we only really need one or two for top level stuff, which we have. Domains for individual sites can still go through fordean.net or we can get more for them. On the software side we are not quite ready, there is still much to do. On the legal side we still need to define ourselves. When these are ready I expect we will do what we can with our current servers. At some point we will probably have to move over to some other hosting provider or find something for some individual sites. Until then I think we need to work on the things at hand and be ready for rolling out these services quickly. This is ambitious project we need to take one step at a time while looking ahead and, most importantly, we need to keep moving. -Neil (sorry for the long posts, please consider responding off list if appropriate) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: ndrumm3 http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~ndrumm
[hackers] File release: event module 0.1.1
Download: http://sf.net/projects/dean/ Test: http://dean.sf.net/ New and fully working version out. Still rather rough around the edges, but a solid release. Post your observations/complaints as comments on the test page. If you want more frequent updates or want to help make sure you are on [EMAIL PROTECTED] How often does everyone want to see updates from developers on this list? You will get them at least every time we have a question that significantly affects the system or user experience, but what else do you expect to see? -Neil -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: ndrumm3 http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~ndrumm
