Re: [Haifux] kmail "sender-images"
On Monday 26 October 2015 21:00:53 Diego Iastrubni wrote: > And no, he is not on my KAddressBook (just checked). This debian laptop is > not > ..."conntected" too google services. So I still wonder. > > You are also not on my contact list, which is another issue, and you can beat > me with a stick to death out of the mailing list. > OK, besides kaddressbook, I found another "sender-image" source: * Gravatar (Settings -> Configure kmail -> Appearance -> Message Window -> Enable Gravatar Support) Maybe there are other sources? -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Gandhi ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://haifux.org/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Fwd: compiler/tools/architecture conference
/On Sunday 18 October 2015 23:31:56 Diego Iastrubni wrote:/ /> Muli,/ /> / /> How did you set up your image in color...?/ Diego, if you refer to the "sender-picture", than Kmail simply match the sender with your addressbook. That's why you see one picture, I may see another and Muli doesn't know what you are talking about ;-) /> I think this is the corresponding code, but I don't think I know how to configure this in KMail :)/ /> X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;/ Nope, that's related to DKIM signature used to help some spam-filters. -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron "If I have been able to see farther, it was only because I stood on the shoulders of giants." -- Sir Isaac Newton ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://haifux.org/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Fwd: compiler/tools/architecture conference
[Muly, sorry for hijacking your thread, but it's becoming interesting...] On Monday 19 October 2015 10:39:00 Baruch Siach wrote: > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:21:43AM +0300, Oron Peled wrote: > > /On Sunday 18 October 2015 23:31:56 Diego Iastrubni wrote:/ > > /> Muli,/ > > /> / > > /> How did you set up your image in color...?/ > > Speaking of email clients I must say that the quoting style in the plain-text > version of your email is quite strange. A '/' character appears at the start > and end of each quoted line. Should I interpret this as italic style? Sending HTML mail to this list was an accident, but you found something interesting. Here are the details: * Sometime I communicate with corporate users and in the beginning I used the same text/plain format as always. * However, unlike modern mail clients, their mail clients display quoted and unquoted text exactly the same (yes, Outlook. I'm looking at you). * The result is that it's very hard for them to read a mix of quoted/unquoted text. Which explains why top-posting is so common among users of that legacy mail client :-( * As a workaround, I started sending them HTML mail and apply a different visual style to the quoted text before mixing my reply text. The style I used was: green text (as in kmail), small font and ITALICS. This way they get a reasonable rendering of the intermixed text. * As Baruch just observed, in the text/plain version, kmail convert the italics to: /text-text-text/ Conclusions: * Re-check non-HTML mail before sending (IIRC, kmail used to have non-HTML/HTML settings per-corespondent or per-folder -- but maybe I'm wrong). * When replying to corporate users, don't mark the quoted text with italics, only with color+size, so the visual rendering of text/plain would be more consistent with text/html. Thanks for the heads-up, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron "If it's not source, it's not software." -- www.gnu.org ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://haifux.org/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [JOB OFFER] VB Developer needed in Univ. of Haifa
On Monday 08 July 2013 15:42:43 Orr Dunkelman wrote: The department of political science at university of Haifa is looking for a VB developer (yes, not really FOSS-related, but it's in Haifa) for an interesting project. VB as in Virtually-Broken -- no? [couldn't resist] -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron write your own operating system. It has worked every time for me -- Linus Thorvalds ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://haifux.org/mailman/listinfo/haifux
[Haifux] שתי הצעות עבודה: מפתח לינוקס ואיש תמיכה לינוקס
שלום, אלו הצעות עבודה מטעם מישהו שאינו רשום לרשימת התפוצה. אנא, השיבו לכתובת j...@yaad.org.il ולא אלי. ---גזור-ושמור--גזור-ושמור חברה בגליל מחפשת אנשי לינוקס ואנדרואיד עם הרבה אנרגיה: מישרה 1: מפתח ישומים -- לינוקס, אנדרואיד, טכנולוגיות WEB. מישרה 2: תומך טכני למערכות מבוססות לינוקס בתחום התקשורת. השתתפות מוכחת בפרוייקטי קוד פתוח ותכנה חופשית -- יתרון. מקום העבודה: משגב \ כרמיאל לפרטים: j...@yaad.org.il -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron ...there are two types of command interfaces in the world of computing: good interfaces and user interfaces. - Dan Bernstein, Author of qmail ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://haifux.org/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] New mail icon for Thunderbird over Gnome
On Sunday, 13 בMay 2012 19:22:20 Eli Billauer wrote: Hello all, I've finally started working with Thunderbird under Linux (FC12, with Thunderbird 3.0.7). The old settings were migrated perfectly, If your new one is 3.0.7, I am afraid to ask what was the old ;-) $ rpm -q thunderbird thunderbird-11.0.1-1.fc15.i686 As you can see I use a pretty old Fedora (F15, plan to upgrade directly to F17, before F15 is EOL). Still, using a network-facing application which did not get any security updates for several years, is... (ok, let's call it brave, not to be offensive...) and all is working fine. Well, there's a thing I miss. In Windows, there used to be an icon when new mail has arrived. This icon doesn't show up on Linux. Obviously in Linux its a separate application (which is hopefully slimmer, since it runs all the time). IIRC, Gnome used to have a nice applet called mail-notification: http://www.nongnu.org/mailnotify This supported multiple accounts/mailboxes/protocols, etc. I believe you can find it pre-packaged even for your pre-historic Fedora. Cheers, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore... ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Telling the kernel business is closed (my weekly riddle)
On Monday, 27 בJune 2011 11:31:48 Eli Billauer wrote: Shachar Shemesh wrote: Nobody expects ENODEV on an already opened device. I'd go for EIO, myself. And so shall I. Thanks. ... And the truth is that I don't care about recovering from such an error. Another strategy is to throw SIGPIPE at the relevant processes: * Con: it is usually expected upon write(2) not read(2) et-al. * Pros: - At least for write(2) the semantics is natural -- no more writes on this file descriptor. - Kills the offending process by default. - Process may catch it in a signal handler (easy to write some global cleanup + exit code) Cheers, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron Lottery: A tax on people who are bad at math. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX LECTURE - CANCELLED] Today's lecture is cancelled
On Monday, 30 בMay 2011 17:37:18 Orr Dunkelman wrote: Due to mechanical problems with his car, Tomer will not be able to give his talk today, and thus, the Haifux lecture is cancelled. WHAT? Now a boycot on Haifux? Next he'll want to fix his car at the Shenkar College! Do you think Hamakor should raise a car-maintenance fund to prevent this academic boycot? :-) -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron A billion flies _can_ be wrong - I'd rather eat lamb chops than shit. -- Linus Torvalds on lkml ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] MCTIP computer technician course
On Sunday, 20 בFebruary 2011 09:47:49 amichay p. k. wrote: I prefer to choose this course, at least now, because it will give me a useful profession, and I finish it before the beginning of my military service. In addition, after the military service I can work as a computer technician, and to finance my studies in CS Unless you practice this stuff *during* the army service, it would be gone by the time you finish army: - You'll forget most of it. - A lot of the material would be obsolete (we are talking about technician level hands-on type of knowledge). So a very focused and expensive training at this stage is investing a lot of resource with verry little benefit (unless you somehow practise this knowledge during army service) -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron write your own operating system. It has worked every time for me -- Linus Thorvalds ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] No! No! Don't compile your kernel!
On Monday, 24 בJanuary 2011 22:11:49 Eli Billauer wrote: ... It was easy enough to do for real. And I had this feeling that the system was meant to be hacked. It belonged to me. And that's fading away, most likely because nobody really seems to care about this. Linux is becoming a piece of opaque spaghetti, but it's OK as long as yum this or apt-get that trades one bug for another. Spaghetti is not free software. Not in any sense. 1. You should not be too worried about the lost art of kernel compilation from sources. Yes, only a tiny fraction of Linux users today compile their kernel (gcc, whatever)., but comparing fractions is a mistake. The *number* of people doing these compiles today in comparison with, say, 15 years ago is many-fold. It's simply that we now have many more people who are *only users* and should take their needs in account *as well* -- It doesn't mean we have less *developers* or that very few can do this the old way 2. The system in general *is* more complex today than 15 years ago. But attributing this purely to developers surrendering fashion is ignoring the real changes that affected Linux during this time: a lot more architectures, more cpus (numa), dynamic peripherals (scsi, usb, hot-plug pci, etc), hot-plugable cpus and ram (balloning) virtualization, embedded systems. And please note I only mentioned hardware related changes, ignoring functional changes (e.g: desktop integration) So not only you can compile your own stuff today, many of us do this pretty routinely (you cannot evade it completely in embdeded space yet). However, if you want to compile key parts of a modern *desktop* you'll simply have to work harder. BTW: the apt-get/yum mentioned before in this thread would also help you compile on your own because they can both bring you the build dependencies (and document them for you) and also contain the steps required for the build (which you can compare with your manual process if you have problems). Don't worry ;-) -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. -- George Bernard Shaw ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Pulseaudio: Sounds good in theory
On Wednesday, 5 בJanuary 2011 11:20:01 Eli Billauer wrote: But I now use Fedora 14, and all the glitches appear to be gone, That tempted me to believe that I can just upgrade pulseaudio and forget all about it.. As a matter of fact, I went for that approach. Time will tell if that was really a quick fix. You should note that some of the complexity is the result of greater integration. This is true when we talk about audio which in my case (Feora-14) invovles ALSA, pulseaudio, Phonon (yes I use KDE) and the applications themselves (some KDE, some not) However, you can see the same phenomena in the UI area (X-server, X-server-drivers, kernel-drivers, desktops [including sometimes composition managers, OpenGL, besides our loved window managers) Example for this integration: In another post, you asked about the mixer -- current GNOME and KDE mixers show/control the pulseaudio settings (including separate volume control for separate applications). However Older versions had problems because they saw both the ALSA hardware control (which only confuse the user, because their names vary for every audio-card) and the software mixer created by pulseaudio. This means us normal users (not RH University graduates ;-) have two options: * Becoming [semi)-experts in the (e.g: audio) domain. This has a lot of benefits, but not always possible (time limitations) * Trust our stack integrators, both upstream and packagers. At the same time, try to check them and help them by opening bugs, talking with them on mailing lists, IRC etc. BTW: When pulseaudio entered Fedora it uncovered a *lot* of latent bugs in different ALSA drivers. Part of the improvement in pulseaudio over the latest release is due to fixing those kernel bugs. The truth is that the difference between the versions is that FC12 gives you 0.9.21-5, while FC14 gives 0.9.21-7. Pulseaudio itself switched to 0.9.22 only a month ago more or less, so I suppose they take intermediate versions. Anyhow, I downloaded the RPMs intended for Fedora 14 and upgraded with them. Again, trying to upgrade bits and pieces (with --nodeps?) will no doubt help you graduate the RH University (unless you drop in the middle) However, it's not the most effective way to solve your direct problem. Fedora-12 is EOL for more than a month now -- if you don't want to upgrade once/twice a year you may have chosen the wrong distribution for your needs. I use Fedora exactly because of its bleeding edge policy -- but that's me. I choose other distributions when I need something with a long release cycle (Centos, Debian stable) By the way, my first attempt was to download the sources for 0.9.22, but ./configure failed on some missing dependency. I suppose that only Red Hat University graduates compile from sources nowadays. The interesting question is *which* dependency? -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron Normal people ... believe that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Engineers believe that if it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features ... yet. -- Scott Adams ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Pulseaudio: Sounds good in theory
On Wednesday, 5 בJanuary 2011 15:57:07 Nadav Har'El wrote: I've been using pavucontrol (I don't know what is padevchooser), and used it successfully to select between the sound card's microphone, and a USB-plugged microphone. MeToo, but notice that it's not needed anymore with modern desktops. Since Fedora-13 (I now user 14), both GNOME and KDE mixers are fully pulseaudio aware and show the required controls natively. So pavucontrol remains for people that use other (less common) desktops. -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. (H. Spencer) ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Login console freezes: Eli's weekly riddle
On Sunday, 7 בNovember 2010 00:44:12 Eli Billauer wrote: The LKML thread is at http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/11/2/314 (for some Eli, I always suspected you are a programmer disguised as a EE, now you proved me right ;-) That was a very interesting read. -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron Ignore Your Rights And They'll Go Away ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Kernel for Fedora: Repository or vanilla?
On Monday, 20 בSeptember 2010 00:18:48 Eli Billauer wrote: What I tried to figure out was whether there's something stupid about just downloading the lastest kernel regardless of rpm packages, compile and install it. Like in the good old times when I knew what happened on my computer. It is a Fedora policy to actively roll all Fedora changes to upstream projects (e.g: kernel). Combining this with the fast Fedora update cycle (even within a single release), means the Fedora kernel is not very different from upstream. So to your direct question: * This means you normally can compile + use upstream kernel. * You will probably want to take a Fedora /boot/config-* as the starting point of your customized .config build configuration. * You will (temporarily) loose all Fedora specific bugfixes. But as I said, they should eventualy, be rolled back upstream. * It looks to me like a 'bumpier' road experience in terms of stability. (which is what you wanted in the first place) I like to know, that if something worked a year ago, it will work when I try it today, and not try to keep up with features I used being removed and bugs being added. Hmmm... Just wanted to mention that bugs are even *removed* in some rare events ;-) Would it be naive to assume that they would update packages even after EOL, if it comes to security threats? Yes. In Fedora EOL is... well... End Of Life. Example: * Look at: ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/fedora/linux/updates/11 * Fedora policy is EOL for release N is one month after release N+2 * Fedora 13 was in 2010-05-25 https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Fedora_%28operating_system%29#Version_history * Fedora 11 modification time of the directory is 2010-06-25 Older releases are moved to: http://archive.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/ There used to be a Fedora-Legacy project that tried to maintain security fixes for older Fedora releases... no more: http://www.fedoralegacy.org/ My conclusion -- either join the ride (I'm doing it for years) or look for one of the slower alternatives I mentioned in my earlier post. Enjoy, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron Some people claim that the UNIX learning curve is steep, but at least you only have to climb it once ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Kernel for Fedora: Repository or vanilla?
On Sunday, 19 בSeptember 2010 22:56:28 Eli Billauer wrote: 1. I'll start with your kernel question: $ rpmquery kernel-PAE kernel-PAE-2.6.33.8-149.fc13.i686 kernel-PAE-2.6.34.6-47.fc13.i686 kernel-PAE-2.6.34.6-54.fc13.i686 2. So F-13 was updated from 2.6.33 series to 2.6.34 series kernels. Many of the updates related to Radeon, since a lot of work was done on this architecture during last year $ rpmquery --changelog kernel-PAE | grep -i radeon | wc -l 29 BTW: this is just from June-2010. If you'll check on F-12, you'll find a similar count from Mar-2009 to this July And I hope not to upgrade my computer in the next three-four years at least. 3. As a Fedora user myself, I must say you may have chose the wrong distribution for your criteria. Fedora is fast paced distribution: * Major release every 6 months * Only two supported releases (n, n-1) -- your F-12 should be EOL this January (no more bug fixes, no more security updates) * Many packages are updated during the ~1 year of a release (including the kernel) 4. If you want long maintenance cycle the best options now are: * Wait few months for Debian-Sqeeze (real soon now) * Wait few months for Centos-6 (REHL-6 are in Beta now) I happen to like when things work. 5. You are welcome to join us, Fedorans , with a 6-12 upgrade cycle. Things (mostly) work, and because of the fast updates, there are cases where you get fixes quicker -- (e.g: Radeon) Not to mention I like to develop with modern tools (gcc, autotools, libraries, etc.) Oops, almost forgot. If you still want to compile your kernel. You may want to start with current Fedora kernel as a basis: yum install rpmdevtools # For the next utility rpmdev-setuptree# set up a empty packaging tree under ~/rpmbuild # Let's download + expand the tree yumdownloader --source kernel rpm -ivh kernel-.src.rpm cd ~/rpmbuild/SPECS rpmbuild -bp kernel.spec # This is just the *prepare* build step cd ~/rpmbuild/BUILD/kernel-2.6.3* # You'll see two obvious directories: vanilla-2.6.x* and linux-2.6.3* If you want to see how many patches separate the vanilla from Fedora: grep '^Patch[0-9]' ~rpmbuild/SPECS/kernel.spec | wc -l It should be only 100-150 patches. If it looks bad to you, reconsider. Distibutions that you wanted (3-5 years between major upgrades) have around 1K patches :-O Cheers, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron If it's there and you can see it, it's REAL If it's there and you can't see it, it's TRANSPARENT If it's not there and you can see it, it's VIRTUAL If it's not there and you can't see it, it's GONE! Eli Rami Rosen wrote: Hi, Eli, So obviously there *are* updates to the kernel made by yum, but somehow without changing the kernel version. How many images do you have under /boot ? isn't it three? ( ls /boot/vm*) ? and how many entries in grub.conf ? In case you have enough time for installation , consider Fedora 13 (Fedora 14, BTW, should be available in 2.11.10) Rgs, Rami Rosen -- Web: http://www.billauer.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Kernel oops, so what?
OK, I'll join in... On Friday, 15 בJanuary 2010 16:27:34 Eli Billauer wrote: Now I get an oops warning every now and then, but nothing really happens. And I wonder what is going on? Has the dreaded oops become something one can live with? Nothing really changed that much. An Oops is caused by illegal operation in kernel space (e.g: null pointer dereference, division by zero etc.) It always had two possible results: 1. If it happened from an interrupt context -- a panic (prints a backtrace on the console and freeze the machine). 2. If it happened from a process context (e.g: in a system call), than it's a normal Oops -- Don't PANIC ;-) - The calling process is killed with a segfault (as we cannot continue any valid computation). - A normal context switch happens. - Everything continue normally, with the *hope* that there the bug did not cause big collateral damage (e.g: memory corruption) outside of the failed computation. For many years, there were several kernel macros for triggering such events from the kernel programmer side: - BUG() - causes an immediate panic - BUG_ON(condition) - think of it as a kernel assert() - WARN() - just the trace, no other ill effects - WARN_ON() - you guessed it. [for an un-favorite example, try to create a work-queue with a name longer than ~10 characters -- you'll get an immediate panic, you can see the code somewhere in kernel/workqueue.c] And then there's this site which collects oops reports (http://www.kerneloops.org/) which, judging by its sluggish response, is a pretty busy project. Oopses keep flooding in. 1. That's an important project that gives a heads-up call for code regressions. 2. Fedora-12 now installs it by default, and integrates it into a new bug-reporting framework (ABRT, a very buggy software in itself ;-) This enables sampling new kernels on a huge amount of configurations and scenarios that was not possible before. So, should I just take it cool and wait for a new kernel with this fixed, ignoring these messages? Yes, unless you joined the kernel digging hobby. However, this collaborative bug-collection frameworks increase the chance for a quicker fix. Cheers, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron __ / / (_)__ __ __ / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / . . . t h e c h o i c e o f a //_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ G N U g e n e r a t i o n . . . ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] QEMU/KVM vs. VMWare: The beauty and the beast
On Sunday, 10 בJanuary 2010 21:06:01 Eli Billauer wrote: Which makes me wonder: Is VMWare a honey trap, or is it currently the preferred choice? It looks like there are solutions for converting VMWare disk images to KVM (Qemu) disk images. Few (untested) links: 1. http://rwmj.wordpress.com/2010/01/06/examine-vmware-esx-with-libguestfs/ [but this is for ESX, so may be irrelevant to you] 2. http://kevinverma.blogspot.com/2007/11/convert-vmware-images-for-qemu- etc.html [a comment suggests that convertion isn't needed anymore] 3. http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=223522 If you can test it briefly and see that it work, than at least you are not trapped. You may start using VMWare today and wait until missing features are added to KVM. At least the DISPLAY part should move quickly since Red Hat has significant investment in this: http://www.linux-kvm.com/content/rhev-spice-guest-drivers-released-windows Bye, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron write your own operating system. It has worked every time for me -- Linus Thorvalds ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Open Source Games or the Lack of Them
On Friday, 18 בSeptember 2009 16:50:38 Shlomi Fish wrote: Since a typical game nowadays costs a lot of money to develop, and requires the collaboration of many people, it seems unlikely that we will see many open-source games that are up-to-par with commercial offerings. Rubbish. I can still remember when people thought that writing small utilities (e.g: a shell) is OK, but a real COMPILER? Out of the question... OK, maybe a compiler yes, but a KERNEL? Nah... Surely, a full desktop is out of reach of a community effort... H these are all the easy ones. GAMES are the ultimate obstacle. No chance to tackle it. We are doomed :-O Shana Tova and may the source be with you. P.S: Shlomi, you've started debating by cross-posting to 3-4 large mailing lists. Cut it out! If you cannot choose the right mailing list for a post, just skip it until you do. -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron A billion flies _can_ be wrong - I'd rather eat lamb chops than shit. -- Linus Torvalds on lkml ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Missing UDP statistics in recent distributions (RcvbufErrors, SndbufErrors)
Just a minor tidbit... On 28.07.2009 Rami Rosen wrote: but in Fedora Core release 4 (Stentz) (2.6.11-1.1369_FC4) , we don't have it: Udp: InDatagrams NoPorts InErrors OutDatagrams I wonder what the situation is in Fedora 6. (but don't have access to such a machine). Fedora 9 is already end-of-life, there isn't any need to check any previous releases unless archeology is your hobby. Yes, I know there are people and even companies that still uses them -- However, not caring about (security) updates is a big mistake that cost not only them, but the rest of us (no, we don't want Linux zombie networks, we already have enough Win* ones). -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron If it's not source, it's not software. -- www.gnu.org ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
[Haifux] OT: Bezeqint made me poof... he's gone
Good day (cross-posted, check when replying). A a previous customer of Actcom I continued with Bezeqint under the same terms (including a contract renewal ~1 year ago). Few days ago I accidentally discovered that my hosted homepage wasn't accessible -- further tests + ~1 hour on the phone (navigating through Bezeqint support structure) revealed the unbelievable THE FREAKING BASTARDS PULLED THE PLUG ON THE DOMAINS WITHOUT EVEN TELLING ANYBODY. I'm now in damage control mode (formal faxes to customer support, etc.) Anybody else? -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron Promises are like babies: fun to make, but hell to deliver. -- Nadav Har'El ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Linux Friendly Netbook?
On 03.05.2009 Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: All the netbooks that are in the market today will work with any modern Linux distribution (Ubuntu 8.X, 9.X, OpenSuSE 10.X and up, Fedora 9 and above, RHEL 5 and above, Debian Lenny, etc) since those netbooks all use the same Intel crappy chipset which has Linux support for few years now. Making sure you have a crappy Intel chipset is normally a good way to have good Linux support out of the box. However, there are exceptions. Specifically, the GMA-500 currently sucks big-time and unfortunately it is used by Dell Mininote (and maybe others). For some gory details (long URL): http://www.happyassassin.net/2009/01/30/intel-gma-500-poulsbo-graphics-on- linux-a-precise-and-comprehensive-summary-as-to-why-youre-screwed/ Cheers, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron Ignore Your Rights And They'll Go Away ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?
On Saturday, 7 בFebruary 2009, Yossi Gil wrote: Moreover, in their second semester Introduction to Systems Programming they learn about makefiles, shell programming and other UNIX stuff. We just do not do enough to make this learning effective... I'd like to mention that this is probably one of the worst software courses in the Technion (unless its curriculum was totally changed). The primary mistakes are: * Trying to cover 3 disjoint subjects in one course fails miserably. * The only people that know C++ after this course are those who knew it before or took OOP later. * Trying teaching them about the importance of modularization and encapsulation when they only experienced Mavo Letichnut is simply pathetic -- they technically understand it, but they don't get it. This should be given in a semester when they already had few sleepless nights debugging theirs (or other people) code. * The Unix part is tragic story in itself. Let's start with the simple fact it uses csh/tcsh (Nee, nee, nee, nee) It's only a third of a semester (actually less, as the more important subjects always rob some of the time). As a result, nothing useful can be taught. If this poorly thought out course would be put to rest, it's hours could be used to enforce some existing courses. The best thing IMO would be not to use them for theory lecture hours, but rather as extra labs or practice hours for the relevant courses. -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron Some people claim that the UNIX learning curve is steep, but at least you only have to climb it once ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Student complaints.
On Tuesday, 3 בFebruary 2009, Amichai Rotman wrote: I had the same problem when I tried to play content broadcasted by CastUP (a popular streaming provider). I encountered two unrelated problems with video streamed from web-sites: 1. Codecs. Easily solved by VLC. I've yet to see a codec unsupported by it. Note that some distros (e.g: Fedora) do not distribute these by default due to specific legal problems (US patents on algorithms). In less bizarre countries this is easily solvable by installing the missing pieces from non-US repositories (e.g: rpmfusion.org for Fedora). Me (non-lawyer) thinks that Israel has no software patents yet so this should be safe (Naive? Don't know). 2. Web sites trying to obfuscate the links from their page to the video stream so people would have to see it interactively instead of (e.g) reaping it to their computer/mp4-player/other-device for off-line viewing at their own leisure. This can usually worked around using Mazrim by Ilan Shavit: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mazrim/ Cheers, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron It's almost like we're doing Windows users a favor by charging them money for something they could get for free, because they get confused otherwise. - Larry Wall. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Some options for talks by a CEO from the silicon valley (on a special day)
On Tuesday, 9 בDecember 2008, Orr Dunkelman wrote: Cathy Malmrose, the CEO of ZaReason, is about to visit Israel soon. ... I think that only if 10 people could commit for coming, it would be worth to schedule it. Of course, if you have any preference, please let me know as well. If someone from Affordy (http://www.affordy.com/) would meet her before, there may be a chance for some cross-company sales effort (we'll represent you here, you'll represent us there, market niches etc.). If that miracle happens, then maybe the best lecture would be: Buying non-MS-taxed laptop in Israel without going to small claims court Which would be an excellent sequel to Zvi Dvir's lecture about his case. Hey, Affordy, do you listen? -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them. -- A. Einstein ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Successful Windows Vista refund!!
On Wednesday, 3 בDecember 2008, Zvi Devir wrote: News Flash: The first Windows refund in Israel! Just read the news. This is a very big WOW and the PR was also very good. Thanks for your time and effort. -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron From Microsoft's perspective, there's a sucker born every minute ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Autoconf/Automake lecture tomorrow - please cancel
On Sunday, 27 בJuly 2008, Hai Zaar wrote: I was going to give autoconf/automake lecture tomorrow. Unfortunately I can't make it - unexpected business meeting came in. We can reschedule it somewhere in late September/October. If anyone want, I'm willing to do tomorrow my autotools lecture (autoconf/automake/libtool). Just let me know if anyone interested. -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron But it does move! -- Galileo Galilei ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Git Lecture discussion
On Tuesday, 5 בFebruary 2008, Ohad Lutzky wrote: Regarding keyword substituion: It turns out that Linus thinks it's a horrible idea: http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/git/2006/10/9/223932 His argument is that it may destroy binary files. This is bogus since keyword-substitution is *off* by default. It will occur only for files that were explicitly marked for substitution. For example in subversion: svn propset svn:keywords Id Author Revision *.h *.c As a substitute (pun intended) for the lack in this feature he gives a hand crafted, build system dependent, manual (i.e: error prone) method. What a lame excuse. [the .sig came out right this time...] -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 Linux is a trademark of Linus Torvalds in the USA and other countries. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Linux Ubuntu in Haifa - help was needed , now some advise
On Monday, 30 בApril 2007 09:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any recommendation for HW to be used? ... - VGA and sound: on board or are you recommending a low-cost add on card Since these days anybody with Nvidia/ATI card has to fight to have minimal 3D (even to play tuxracer, not to mention beryl/compiz fun) I think that rules them out. That basically leaves Intel on-board chipsets which are supported out of the box by any modern Xorg. An exception: One of my Pentium 4's have an on-board old ATI chipset (Radeon 9100 IGP) -- it was bought before found about better alternatives. This board magically started to have 3D acceleration after a normal update of Xorg ~6 months ago (the chipset is old and featureless enough that new versions of the free radeon driver caught up). While miracles like that may happen, I keep myself away from depending on them by avoiding ATI/Nvidia. Cheers, -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 write your own operating system. It has worked every time for me -- Linus Thorvalds - Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Haifux] Suggestion for a haifux lecture
On Wednesday, 7 בDecember 2005 16:32, Paramahansa Polo wrote: BTW, can somebody suggest an especific topic related to udev that is of his/her interest or that him/her considers a must-be-mention topic? Actually, it's hard to talk about udev without giving context about: - hotplug - hal - dbus Or in other words, Project Utopia (Robert Love et.al). -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 The speed of light really is too slow nowdays. -- Alan Cox -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Haifux] Lecture Proposals
On Monday, 29 בAugust 2005 20:53, Alon Altman wrote: Here are some topics I have suggested in the past: ... Please vote for one or more of these lectures you would like to hear. That's easy: 1+2+3+4 -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 The speed of light really is too slow nowdays. -- Alan Cox -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Haifux] Real-time write on *ANY* filesystem
First, thanks for an interesting test plan. Just a quick note (I currently don't have time for retesting): On Wednesday 22 June 2005 03:41, Eli Billauer wrote: And finally: Does an RAM FIFO help? Surprisingly, the answer is no. Since you use stdio (fwrite), which by default does full buffering in user space (c.f: setvbuf(3)) this does not surprise me. Repeating the test with open/write/close etc, would give more significant results (altough I suspect they would only be worse :-( Tzahi mentioned XFS. While I'm not sure XFS would help with small write chunks (Reiserfs seems like better candidate for these), I'd like to mention a related feature the original XFS had on Irix (I think this feature wasn't ported to Linux) -- You could assign a special sub-volume in the filesystem as real-time. The kernel would then give absolute priority to I/O requests related to that sub-volume -- In marketing speech this would give you guaranteed I/O response time (although I don't remember seeing any specific constraints on this [that's why I call it marketing]). Any other ideas anybody? -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 If I have been able to see farther, it was only because I stood on the shoulders of giants. -- Sir Isaac Newton -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Haifux] RAM FIFO
On Wednesday 27 April 2005 15:08, Eli Billauer wrote: So I thought: Hmmm, how about a simple application, which allocates, say, 16 MB of non-pageable RAM (peanuts in today's terms), behaving like a simple data FIFO, which I put in the pipeline? If you have enough RAM than the non-pageable requirement isn't mandatory (it won't be paged since it's in the working set). In that case, maybe a simple dd(1) [check the ibs= and obs= options] may do the trick. -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 Promises are like babies: fun to make, but hell to deliver. -- Nadav Har'El -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Haifux] Proposed lecture - the Debian package acceptance procedure
On Monday 28 February 2005 08:51, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Anyone interested? Sure. Writing .spec's for RPMS became boring, now we'll get to the real stuff :-) -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 Prof:So the American government went to IBM to come up with a data encryption standard and they came up with ... Student: EBCDIC! -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Haifux] Announce: Kernel Course Slides
Hi everybody, My kernel course slides are available under a creative commons license. Actually, this is their status since I first wrote them at the end of 2003, but I wanted to test them for a while before formally announcing them. The slides are in PDF and planned for a 5 days course. They were prepared using only free software tools (mainly LaTex of course) and the sources are available too. You are welcome to use them for any purpose while preserving the license terms for the slides: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/1.0/ and the code samples: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.txt I welcome any fixes, enhancements etc. You may get your name added to the one listed on the THANKS page (let's see if you can guess his name *before* peeking at slide number 'IV' on the PDF file :-) The files (source, pdf, signatures, etc.) are scattered under my home page: http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron go grab them. Last shameless plug: Of course you may ask the author to teach the course personally at your company, just remember the saying -- The slides are free, the instructor time isn't :-) [shamefully picked that paraphrase from Gilad] Bye, -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 A standard for copy protection is as premature as a standard for teleportation. --- Noted computer security expert and Princeton University Professor Edward Felten. pgp8mojHLQEjO.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Haifux] A lecture, maybe, if you like?
Hi, Does anybody want to hear a (yet unwritten) lecture about Gnucash: How I manage my money and stay alive to tell the story... In which I'll present a great piece of free software which is not (yet?) famous. -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 A standard for copy protection is as premature as a standard for teleportation. --- Noted computer security expert and Princeton University Professor Edward Felten. -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Haifux] linux ipc
On Sunday 16 January 2005 13:45, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 01:40:28PM +0200, yakoub abaya wrote: Is there a special interface for communication between : device driver - daemon , other than conventional ipc ? ( i know of pipes , signal kill ) read and write on a device file, a new file system, /sysfs, /procfs, ioctl (not a good idea), add your own syscalls, etc, etc. And to make his life more interesting: NETLINK sockets... A better question is what do you want to do? Maybe we should add this question to the FAQ. sigh :-( -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 ...there are two types of command interfaces in the world of computing: good interfaces and user interfaces. - Dan Bernstein, Author of qmail -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Haifux] man
On Wednesday 12 January 2005 18:04, Ori Idan wrote: yakoub abaya wrote: Q: what is the number following in the parentheses ? (-- 2 in write(2) ) The number is the man section number Sections are: ... Ori, you gave him fish (good ones I must admit), but he need also a fishing pole (AKA RTFM). Each section has an intro man page, so we can run: man 1 intro man 2 intro Q : how do i man write(2) ? , how do i use the 2 ? do man 2 write And even better: man man :-) -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 If I have been able to see farther, it was only because I stood on the shoulders of giants. -- Sir Isaac Newton -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Haifux] Xen and the art of giving talks
Yes, Comparisons to other free (Qemu, Bochs,...) and non-free (vmware) are of course welcome... -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 If it's there and you can see it, it's REAL If it's there and you can't see it, it's TRANSPARENT If it's not there and you can see it, it's VIRTUAL If it's not there and you can't see it, it's GONE! -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Haifux] biulding drivers on linux2.6
On Sunday 02 January 2005 08:36, yakoub abaya wrote: i don't understand how to build a simple driver i wrote i looked into linux/Documentation/kbuild and read about makefile rules but what make command do i issue ? i tried : make -C /usr/src/linux SUBDIRS=$pwd modules 1. Using SUBDIRS= is still supported, but the new and prefered syntax for what you want is M= 2. It looks like your real error (unless you happen to use csh/tcsh), is writing $pwd (lower case) instead of $PWD. -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Gandhi -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Haifux] IBM Linux Study Group announcements on or off topic?
On Thursday 04 November 2004 13:13, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: Would you be interested in receiving announcements of these biweekly sessions? Let me know. It's a rhetoric question, isn't it :-? -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 When you understand UNIX, you will understand the world. When you understand NTyou will understand NT - Richard Thieme pgpo9hunjmx4m.pgp Description: signature
Re: [Haifux] Proposed Lecture - Linux USB Subsystem Layer (in Video4Linux Context)
On Thursday 28 October 2004 14:14, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: Seconded. Looking forward to the talk. Me too, me too :-) Moreover, it will force me to add a chapter to the Kernel internals course slides: http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron/oron/docs/kernel/kernel-1.15.pdf -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 Software is like Entropy: it's hard to grasp, weighs nothing and obeys the Second Law of Thermodynamics, i.e. it always increases -- Norman Augustine pgpFaAJezUC5u.pgp Description: signature
Re: [Haifux] proposed lecture(s) - linux VFS and writing a real file-system
On Wednesday 20 October 2004 01:33, guy keren wrote: i was wondering if these will be of interest. in the past month i've been working on writing a silly file-system, and found that there is no good document (or book?) explaining the gory details (or does 'understanding the linux kernel' cover this _properly_?), so i that giving a proper intro would be interesting. Yes. -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 Mary had a little lambda, Its syntax white as snow, And every program Mary wrote, She wrote in Lisp, you know. -- Karl Pflästerer -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Haifux] Embedded OS Research
On Monday 17 May 2004 16:09, Phillip Mousseau wrote: The information obtained by VDC will only be used to develop market insights. When a programmer contributes a piece of code to a FOSS project at least she knows she will be able to use the result. And what do VDC offer the community in return for the information? Satisfaction for helping VDC? -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron There are lies, damned lies, and statistics -- Benjamin Disraeli ...and benchmarks -- Garry Hodgson -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Haifux] Re: Digital darkroom with the GIMP lecture slides
Usefull LaTeX tip (especially for PDFs):
\usepackage[colorlinks=true]{hyperref}
% some more text...
and now let's put \url{http://www.gimp.org}
You can get all your URL's automagically linked in your PDF's.
BTW: The docs for hyperref are worth reading for other nice effects.
Cheers,
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Re: [Haifux] Fetchmail: The Mail Herschale [1]
On Friday 06 February 2004 02:45, Eli Billauer wrote: And this is where we reach the philosophic question: How do you know? ;) Remind me of a different and sad mail-related problem I ran across. I lately have started using kmail (for its hebrew support) after backing up my mail directory (since kmail uses maildir/mbox and my previous MUA used mh/mbox). It worked reasonably, so I have been using it for the last several months. Two weeks ago something interesting happened: - My /home partition ran out of space (several big core files suddenly filled the last free ~100MB). - While kmail failed to write the new mails it opened warning dialogs for each failure (all of a sudden 5-10 dialogs appeared during mail reception). - However, it happily vacuummed /var/spool/mail/oron :-O So I've restarted my quest for a decent MUA. May go back to sylpheed which is excelent, but no hebrew -- GTK-1.x app :-( -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Haifux] RHN on Fedora stations
On Monday 02 February 2004 14:25, Dita Jacobovitz wrote: We need an automatic solution for the RHN up2date service for these 12 stations, One solution for up2date is 'current' (don't have the URL under my hand now) from Duke university (IIRC). Haven't tested lately, so YMMV. -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron Promises are like babies: fun to make, but hell to deliver. -- Nadav Har'El -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Haifux] Re: InstaParty Thought - Buy/Receive the CD or Bust
On Sunday 01 February 2004 11:18, Adir Abraham wrote: [a lot of valid points] ... You can conclude what happens with faster machines or those that include rich hardware features. I also assume that we'll have faster machines next year, so it will not take more than 40 minutes in average. Just adjusting some over-optimism: installation is very I/O bounded, and disk speed is advancing very slow (comparing to Moore's law for CPU). So unless next year you'll have everybody with SCSI disks, you won't see a lot of speedup. Still, I completely agree that the ~5GB full install is a wise decision in the context of install parties to newbies who would have hard time adding software. Worse, the typical newbie would assume that if some 'Z' software isn't on her system -- than Linux doesn't have 'Z' at all (actually, if an icon for 'Z' isn't on the menu than Linux doesn't have 'Z' software :-) So keep it that way, and it'll keep taking ~1hour/install... -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron I love deadlines, especially the whooshing sound they make as they go by. -- Douglas Adams -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Haifux] encoding/decoding from mime / 1-D MR / 2-D MR / 2-D MMR formats to pdf or tiff
On Thursday 29 January 2004 12:00, David Sapir wrote: I'm using Hylafax to receive faxes, and the machine emails the faxes as an attachment. The OS is RH9. My qustion is: can anyone tell my how to convert the received data to pdf files? You can use tiff2ps (part of libtiff) to convert it to Postscript and then ps2pdf (a wrapper around gs(1)). -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Haifux] ANN: Lectures: Writing device drivers in Linux and Windoze
On Tuesday 27 January 2004 02:56, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: The first draft of the slides for this one are now available at http://www.mulix.org/lectures/intro_to_linux_device_drivers/intro_linux_device_drivers.pdf. Very good. Small remarks/questions: - I assume they learn the actual build procedure elsewhere. If not, than at least some pointers are needed. - The idea to patch the core for hooking into timer interrupts is very good for learning (the power of open source...). However, because the interrupt you talk about is (by incident) the timer, people may get the wrong idea that in Linux patching is needed for timing... (which is a very common task). You may want to mention the existance of the simple timer_* API. - Some mention (maybe verbally) about kernel versioning (which is used for their exercise?) -- Understanding the Linux kernel API's are a moving target (intentionally...) - Are they getting (maybe in their lectures) some orderly view about: * Different locking schemes? (spinlocks, reader-writers, semaphores,...) * Different schemes for defering work? (softirqs, tasklet API, work-queues, timer API's) Bye, -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron Linux lasts longer! -- Kim J. Brand [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Haifux] Seminar Demos by Denis Girou
On Sunday 18 January 2004 11:40, Gustavo Halperin wrote: For example the package pst-fr3d I can't find. Do you now this class ??, Where I can download it?? Google for it -- first and second hits... -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Haifux] SOLVED: Permission denied
On Monday 17 November 2003 14:49, Ron Artstein wrote: So we're back to the manual. I can see why the writers of a manual think that mount options belong in a section about mounting. But a good manual will also include a cross-reference from the section on permissions, Traditionally, man pages had a special section for this type of non-obvious things. It was called BUGS or CAVEATS. -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron write your own operating system. It has worked every time for me -- Linus Thorvalds -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Haifux] W2L0, second thoughts about kdevelop
On Sunday 14 September 2003 15:53, Maor Meir wrote: When looking at the built-in documentation I found plenty if information on using kdevelop to create QT applications, this is way beyond the scope of W2L lecture 0. Actually, creating any decent GUI program is way beyond the scope for newbies (whatever platform/environment they use): - Heavy OOP - Callbacks/Listeners/Slots/What-you-call-them-today - Containers and layout management - Event propagation and widget (instances) tree Not exactly Introduction for Programming stuff. However, Kdevelop may be used as a show off stuff if it would be shown together with other tools. Examples: - Anjuta - Eclipse (the free software one...) - If there's an Emacs guru I would ask him to demo it as well (but drop it if there isn't someone who can really make it shine). Showing several tools of the same family (IDE's) is important because a lot of our potential audience suffers from uni-dimentional vision simptom caused by inhaling too much Visual-Studio for too long time. It is extremely important to show there are *different* strategies to reach the same goal. Once they understand this -- they already got half of what Linux is all about. -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron Windows is NOT a virus: a virus is small and efficient. --Jonathan Leffler, Informix -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
