Re: HA Proxy FTP Load Balancing Timeout

2013-05-01 Thread Ben Timby
Alok,

Sorry have been out of the office for a while.

You could try increasing the clitimeout and srctimeout values in your
defaults section. These values are ninety and one hundred and twenty
seconds respectively. My guess is that tcpka has no effect on activity
from haproxy's point of view as this tcp traffic would be generated by
haproxy itself.

Also, after seeing your config, I realize why I was confused. I load
balance FTP as well, but I ONLY load balance the command channel via
haproxy. The data channels are handled directly by NAT rules. I wrote up my
method here:

http://ben.timby.com/?page_id=210

The nice thing about this method is that haproxy is still able to
distribute load pretty evenly by user session not by individual
connection. Also, the heavy lifting of transferring large files is then
handled in the kernel by netfilter rather than by haproxy. Additionally
this means that time outs enforced by haproxy only apply to the command
channel, and do not affect the data channels.


Re: HA Proxy FTP Load Balancing Timeout

2013-05-01 Thread Alok Kumar
Thanks Ben!
I would certianly explore more on these lines and let you know.

Thanks again.
 
Regards,
Alok




 From: Ben Timby bti...@gmail.com
To: Alok Kumar a_sa...@yahoo.com 
Cc: haproxy@formilux.org haproxy@formilux.org 
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: HA Proxy FTP Load Balancing Timeout
 


Alok,

Sorry have been out of the office for a while.


You could try increasing the clitimeout and srctimeout values in your defaults 
section. These values are ninety and one hundred and twenty seconds 
respectively. My guess is that tcpka has no effect on activity from haproxy's 
point of view as this tcp traffic would be generated by haproxy itself.


Also, after seeing your config, I realize why I was confused. I load balance 
FTP as well, but I ONLY load balance the command channel via haproxy. The data 
channels are handled directly by NAT rules. I wrote up my method here:

http://ben.timby.com/?page_id=210


The nice thing about this method is that haproxy is still able to distribute 
load pretty evenly by user session not by individual connection. Also, the 
heavy lifting of transferring large files is then handled in the kernel by 
netfilter rather than by haproxy. Additionally this means that time outs 
enforced by haproxy only apply to the command channel, and do not affect the 
data channels.

Re: HA Proxy FTP Load Balancing Timeout

2013-04-23 Thread Alok Kumar
Hi Ben,
Is there any suggestion, that I can try in our HA Proxy config.
 
Regards,
Alok




 From: Ben Timby bti...@gmail.com
To: Alok Kumar a_sa...@yahoo.com 
Cc: haproxy@formilux.org haproxy@formilux.org 
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: HA Proxy FTP Load Balancing Timeout
 


On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Alok Kumar a_sa...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi Ben,
In my case we are load balancing across FTP servers.

FTP uses two data channel and command channel port for data transfer.


I use haproxy for the same purpose. Closing the command channel will not affect 
a transfer in any way, unless you have something else set up wrong.


In other words, the command channel is needed only to START the upload, once 
started the data channel will complete the upload. If the command channel 
closes in the meantime, what does it matter?


I am trying to understand WHY this is a problem, as in my experience closing 
the idle command channel is a GOOD thing with no negative side-effects.

Re: HA Proxy FTP Load Balancing Timeout

2013-04-18 Thread Alok Kumar


Ben Timby btimby@... writes:

 
 
 Alok,
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Alok Kumar a_sahay-
/e1597as9lqavxtiumw...@public.gmane.org wrote:I have a HA Proxy 
server(1.4), thzt is  load balacing FTP traffic to Six FTP
 servers.
 I noticed that Load Balancer is dropping traffic after 50 sec, where as 
there
 was a valid ftp control port and Large file transfer was in progress over 
data
 port.
 
 
 I have the same behavior on my cluster (by design) by setting timeout 
client (or old clitimeout) setting in haproxy. For me it is desirable, as 
most (all?) FTP clients will re-open the 
 command channel if needed. The command channel is not needed for ongoing
  transfers.http://code.google.com/p/haproxy-docs/wiki/timeout_client
 
 You might also look for timeout server in your configuration.It may be 
that this is unintentionally enabled in your configuration.
 
  
 
 I tried using tcpka in defaults section, but it didn't make any 
difference.
 In my particular case, using tcpka option on the backend side could have
 solved the issue of control channel timing out dut to inactivity.
 Am I  missing something like setting tcp keeyalive time, interval and 
probe
 frequency setup on Ha Proxy Linux server.
 
 
 
 If
  the answer is not so simple, I suggest you provide your configuration to 
the list 
 (obscure anything sensitive) to receive more in-depth help.
 
 

Hi Ben,
In my case we are load balancing across FTP servers.

FTP uses two data channel and command channel port for data transfer.

Since HaProxy is not FTP aware, if command channel is idle during large file 
transfer, it does not recognize that data channel is still continuing and 
closes command channel.

I am looking for keepalive options that can make command channel activeeven 
though no data is flowing thru it.

I am not sure if this is doable in HAProxy.

If you have any question, then please let me know.






Re: HA Proxy FTP Load Balancing Timeout

2013-04-18 Thread Ben Timby
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Alok Kumar a_sa...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi Ben,
 In my case we are load balancing across FTP servers.

 FTP uses two data channel and command channel port for data transfer.


I use haproxy for the same purpose. Closing the command channel will not
affect a transfer in any way, unless you have something else set up wrong.

In other words, the command channel is needed only to START the upload,
once started the data channel will complete the upload. If the command
channel closes in the meantime, what does it matter?

I am trying to understand WHY this is a problem, as in my experience
closing the idle command channel is a GOOD thing with no negative
side-effects.


Re: HA Proxy FTP Load Balancing Timeout

2013-04-18 Thread Alok Kumar
Ben Timby btimby@... writes:

 
 
 
 On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Alok Kumar a_sahay-
/e1597as9lqavxtiumw...@public.gmane.org wrote:Hi Ben,
 In my case we are load balancing across FTP servers.
 FTP uses two data channel and command channel port for data transfer.
 
 
 
 
 I use haproxy for the same purpose. Closing the command channel will not 
affect a transfer in any way, unless you have something else set up wrong.
 
 In other words, the command channel is needed only to START the upload, 
once started the data channel will complete the upload. If the command 
channel closes in the meantime, what does it matter?
 
 I am trying to understand WHY this is a problem, as in my experience 
closing the idle command channel is a GOOD thing with no negative side-
effects.
 
 


Hi Ben,
Attaching the HAProxy config file.  Please let me know, if you find some 
issue in configuration.


global
log 127.0.0.1   local5 debug
log 127.0.0.1   local1 notice
maxconn 4096

defaults
log global
modetcp
option  tcplog
option  dontlognull
retries 3
option redispatch
option tcpka
maxconn 2000
contimeout  5000
clitimeout  9
srvtimeout  12

listen abc-ha-ftp 10.108.157.230:21
mode tcp
option tcplog
option tcpka
balance roundrobin
server xyz-uat1 10.108.157.193:11099 weight 10 minconn 30 maxconn 1000 check
server xyz-uat2 10.108.157.228:11099 weight 10 minconn 30 maxconn 1000 check
server xyz-uat3 10.108.157.193:21099 weight 10 minconn 30 maxconn 1000 check
server xyz-uat4 10.108.157.228:21099 weight 10 minconn 30 maxconn 1000 check
server xyz-uat5 10.108.157.193:31099 weight 10 minconn 30 maxconn 1000 check
server xyz-uat6 10.108.157.228:31099 weight 10 minconn 30 maxconn 1000 check



listen abc-ha-ftp-1 10.108.157.230:12001-14000
mode tcp
option tcplog
option tcpka
server xyz-uat1 10.108.157.193 check port 11099


listen abc-ha-ftp-2 10.108.157.230:14001-16000
mode tcp
option tcplog
option tcpka
server xyz-uat2 10.108.157.228 check port 11099

listen abc-ha-ftp-3 10.108.157.230:16001-18000
mode tcp
option tcplog
option tcpka
server xyz-uat3 10.108.157.193 check port 21099

listen abc-ha-ftp-4 10.108.157.230:18001-2
mode tcp
option tcplog
option tcpka
server xyz-uat4 10.108.157.228 check port 21099

listen abc-ha-ftp-5 10.108.157.230:22001-24000
mode tcp
option tcplog
option tcpka
server xyz-uat5 10.108.157.193 check port 31099

listen abc-ha-ftp-6 10.108.157.230:24001-26000
mode tcp
option tcplog
option tcpka
server xyz-uat6 10.108.157.228 check port 31099






Re: HA Proxy FTP Load Balancing Timeout

2013-04-17 Thread Ben Timby
Alok,


On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Alok Kumar a_sa...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I have a HA Proxy server(1.4), thzt is  load balacing FTP traffic to Six
 FTP
 servers.

 I noticed that Load Balancer is dropping traffic after 50 sec, where as
 there
 was a valid ftp control port and Large file transfer was in progress over
 data
 port.


I have the same behavior on my cluster (by design) by setting timeout
client (or old clitimeout) setting in haproxy. For me it is desirable, as
most (all?) FTP clients will re-open the command channel if needed. The
command channel is not needed for ongoing transfers.

http://code.google.com/p/haproxy-docs/wiki/timeout_client

You might also look for timeout server in your configuration.

It may be that this is unintentionally enabled in your configuration.


 I tried using tcpka in defaults section, but it didn't make any difference.

 In my particular case, using tcpka option on the backend side could have
 solved the issue of control channel timing out dut to inactivity.

 Am I  missing something like setting tcp keeyalive time, interval and probe
 frequency setup on Ha Proxy Linux server.


If the answer is not so simple, I suggest you provide your configuration to
the list (obscure anything sensitive) to receive more in-depth help.