[H] Dual Layer
How well do stand alone DVD players support home burned dual layer DVDs? What is the current primary use for dual layer? I mean what do people use it for? How reliable is the 8.5 GB burns. You pay a huge premium for dual layer media so I am wondering what do people use it for. With prices so low for standard DVD media, it would seem you would have to have a pretty important reason to burn a four or five dollar dual layer DVD when you can buy a name brand 8 speed DVD -R for as little as 34 cents. This is what I paid today for 50 Imation 8 speed DVD -r... or +r, on sale, but no rebate. CompUSA is having a similar sale on TDK DVDs.
[H] more keyboard fun
http://www.ergodex.com/content.php?id=14 For gaming but -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.1/51 - Release Date: 7/18/2005
RE: [H] Disposable computers
At 08:15 AM 7/19/2005, Christopher Klein typed: It all depends...every system is different. This is why I don't like to quote a per hour fee as I'm not a plumber. Many times I'll only charge $50 for cleaning a system maintaining their data intact while the other shops are charging several hundred for wiping the machine all it's data then charging the customer per hour to surf the net to retrieve the necessary drivers. I also like asking people how much is knowledge worth. ;-) Hey if they insist on a per hour fee then I'll quote them $100/hr for a stand alone machine $150/hr if it's networked. --+-- Wayne D. Johnson Ashland, OH, USA 44805 http://www.wavijo.com
RE: [H] Disposable computers
At 09:15 AM 19/07/2005, Christopher Klein wrote: It all depends...every system is different. My fiancee's parent's computer for example. It was an old pentium, dial up modem, but had over 600 pieces of spyware. It took hours for adaware to run. Of course that was a freebie as it is family but you get the point. Every system is different. If they are a good customer I don't nickel and dime them. I was just wondering about the average time it takes you. I find it takes at least four hours to thoroughly scan for viruses and spyware. More if there is hardware corruption, or if the machine is slow or has a ton of files on it. T
RE: [H] Disposable computers
At 09:34 AM 19/07/2005, Wayne Johnson wrote: This is why I don't like to quote a per hour fee as I'm not a plumber. Many times I'll only charge $50 for cleaning a system maintaining their data intact while the other shops are charging several hundred for wiping the machine all it's data then charging the customer per hour to surf the net to retrieve the necessary drivers. I also like asking people how much is knowledge worth. ;-) Yes, I charge a flat rate for all our jobs. Sometimes I lose - but most times I'm accurate, and since I can do a bunch of machines simultaneously, it generally works out. (I'm not rich, however, so maybe I'm doing this wrong.) :) T
Re: [H] more keyboard fun
Jim Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.ergodex.com/content.php?id=14 For gaming but Here is an interesting key layout: http://www.sakamura-lab.org/TRON/proj95/GIFDATA/BTRON-2.gif A whole keyboard in 7 keys: http://www.infogrip.com/product_view.asp?RecordNumber=12sbcolor=%23FF9966option=keyboardsubcategory=CatTxt=optiontxt=Keyboard or http://tinyurl.com/bryyk One hand for the kboard and one for the mouse or graphics tablet infogrip makes a bunch of input devices. Al
RE: [H] Disposable computers
At 09:47 AM 19/07/2005, Christopher Klein wrote: When I get a customer who has an insane amount of spyware, I try to take it home with me. If I can watch TV, or do something else while running the scan I don't charge them nearly as much...maybe an hour total depending. That's my approach as well to onsite calls. T
Re: [H] Disposable computers
I've switched to $90/hr, $60/hr each additional. Seems to work out OK for me. Oftentimes, though, I will round down so 1.5hr ends up being $90. I may be too nice. Wayne Johnson wrote: Hey if they insist on a per hour fee then I'll quote them $100/hr for a stand alone machine $150/hr if it's networked. --+-- Wayne D. Johnson Ashland, OH, USA 44805 http://www.wavijo.com
Re: [H] Disposable computers
- Original Message - From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:50 AM Subject: RE: [H] Disposable computers I was just wondering about the average time it takes you. I find it takes at least four hours to thoroughly scan for viruses and spyware. More if there is hardware corruption, or if the machine is slow or has a ton of files on it. It sounds like you are another believer in formatting Drive C (No big deal if the data has been copied elsewhere such as to another partition or drive etc.) and reinstalling Windows in a way far superior to the way the name brand manufacturers install it. This is not tied only to the business methods of my computer repair shop. We power users routinely did this with new name brand computers 10 years ago, before we had easy access to custom built computers. It was common knowledge among us that when you get a name brand computer home, you format and reinstall. If you had no Windows CD you borrowed from a friend and used your own Product Key, where applicable. I charge $20.00 extra on a $40.00 format job when I copy a customer's data to preserve it. I use to copy their whole C Drive but that much data is simply too much to saddle them with later. Now I just copy all they have in their My Documents folder, Favorites folder and I extract their .dbx and .wab (messages and address book) files from their Outlook Express Store folder. I copy other folders they identify as having valuable data in them. I compare a format and reinstall job vs. fixing Windows to patching a problem instead of fixing it with new parts etc. Can those who repair Windows truthfully say they have gotten out all of the crud and that it will run as well as a format job and new install of Windows will run? A true programmer might can fix Windows this well. Most repair technicians can't. We were discussing time consumed. It takes about an hour to copy date, partition and format and reinstall Windows. Then I have another 2 hours of updating and installing the selected free software that I have found to be beneficial. I tweak the results and Ghost myself a verbatim copy onto 1 of 10 partitions on an 80 GB data storage hard drive I keep for that purpose. If need be within a few months, for $20.00 I will Ghost that data back to the customer's C Drive. This comes in handy when they mess it up again soon. Note that with a Ghost job you do not have to format or erase first. Ghost even changes the file system if need be. Example: You can Ghost a NTFS source to a FAT 32 target and the results are a NTFS partition that works. Copy Speed? I have copied faster than 2500 MB (twenty five hundred megabytes) per minute with Ghost outside of the Windows environment. Try getting past even 1000 MB per minute within Windows. Your letters in this thread drive my point home that the cost per year for buying and operating one of my computers for 5 years is far less than any other procurement and repair method I have heard of. The $800.00 spent on a $600.00 computer in one letter proves this. Worst case scenario with my system would have been $1000.00 ($800.00 for the computer and $200.00 for the repairs if the customer was a total disaster to software. My worst customers come in about once a month or so for the twenty dollar Ghost over C. At times it is more feasible to format and reinstall. It depends on how many updates have been released since that original Ghost clone was made etc. After about 5 or 6 months and after having spent from $100.00 to $200.00 on these C drive restorations, they either learn or quit. I do not hear from them again. And, no, I do not create and give them Restore CD's or DVD's. I give them their Microsoft OEM Windows Kit (sealed as I use a CD of mine to install Windows XP). If they mess up, they need to come see me so they will get the benefit of all updates and tweaks etc. I have received and learned since last time they where here. Chuck
RE: [H] Disposable computers
There is a fundamental difference between doing it in a shop and at their local. If we do it at a shop, we have tons of techs who can work on 10+ PCs at once with multiple benches setup. So cost to us is less, cost to the customer is less. If I (or anyone) has to go to them, we are -only- working on that 1 PC at that time, we have a cost of gas involved, time traveled involved, other PCs not being worked on, etc. so the minimum is really a per hour, it's the only way to calculate revenue lost vs. revenue made to make it worth it. CW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 7:51 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: RE: [H] Disposable computers At 09:34 AM 19/07/2005, Wayne Johnson wrote: This is why I don't like to quote a per hour fee as I'm not a plumber. Many times I'll only charge $50 for cleaning a system maintaining their data intact while the other shops are charging several hundred for wiping the machine all it's data then charging the customer per hour to surf the net to retrieve the necessary drivers. I also like asking people how much is knowledge worth. ;-) Yes, I charge a flat rate for all our jobs. Sometimes I lose - but most times I'm accurate, and since I can do a bunch of machines simultaneously, it generally works out. (I'm not rich, however, so maybe I'm doing this wrong.) :) T
RE: [H] norton corporate AV ?
Oh and the real joy is that this needs to be executed by EACH user of the client pc. From: Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 00:04:16 -0400 Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks] [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks] CreatedUserQuickScan=dword:0001 CopiedDefaultScanOptions=dword:0001 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks\Default Scan Options] ScanForGreyware=dword: ScanNotifyStopService=dword:0001 ScanNotifyReboot=dword:0002 ScanNotifyTerminateProcess=dword:0001 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks\TaskPadStartup] From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:15:39 -0700 how about sharing the *fix* then. fp At 09:24 AM 7/18/2005, Hayes Elkins Poked the stick with: The new version, SAVCE v10, is a POS. One revision deep and STILL no built in fix for the startscan memory leak. Manual registry hack is the only way to fix. From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 06:26:34 -0700 Not sure why but all of a sudden my NAV is taking 6 hours plus to scan. Set to scan every night at midnight and it is still running when I get up at 6AM. not sure WTF any clues appreciated fp -- Tallyho ! ]:8) -- Don't judge a book by its mini-series. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) -- Don't judge a book by its mini-series.
Re: [H] norton corporate AV ?
The registry can be manipulated remotely - Original Message - Oh and the real joy is that this needs to be executed by EACH user of the client pc. From: Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 00:04:16 -0400 Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks] [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks] CreatedUserQuickScan=dword:0001 CopiedDefaultScanOptions=dword:0001 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks\Default Scan Options] ScanForGreyware=dword: ScanNotifyStopService=dword:0001 ScanNotifyReboot=dword:0002 ScanNotifyTerminateProcess=dword:0001 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks\TaskPadStartup]
RE: [H] norton corporate AV ?
do you have any links about this ? recently put 10 in ( from 9 ) but really hadn't notice any problems. ( or improvements over 9 either ) if a major bug I could go back to 9 fp At 07:27 AM 7/19/2005, Hayes Elkins Poked the stick with: Oh and the real joy is that this needs to be executed by EACH user of the client pc. From: Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 00:04:16 -0400 Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks] [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks] CreatedUserQuickScan=dword:0001 CopiedDefaultScanOptions=dword:0001 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks\Default Scan Options] ScanForGreyware=dword: ScanNotifyStopService=dword:0001 ScanNotifyReboot=dword:0002 ScanNotifyTerminateProcess=dword:0001 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks\TaskPadStartup] From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:15:39 -0700 how about sharing the *fix* then. fp At 09:24 AM 7/18/2005, Hayes Elkins Poked the stick with: The new version, SAVCE v10, is a POS. One revision deep and STILL no built in fix for the startscan memory leak. Manual registry hack is the only way to fix. From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 06:26:34 -0700 Not sure why but all of a sudden my NAV is taking 6 hours plus to scan. Set to scan every night at midnight and it is still running when I get up at 6AM. not sure WTF any clues appreciated fp -- Tallyho ! ]:8) -- Don't judge a book by its mini-series. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) -- Don't judge a book by its mini-series. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) -- Don't judge a book by its mini-series.
Re: [H] Disposable computers
I think you're all missing the point that GS represents the state of the repair business vs. the cost of today's PC's. They're charging a set fee (and insane one) and getting it for REPEATED bad work on a daily basis. So yes, those of you charging less or feeling you need to give a customer a break are ripping yourselves off. If they came out and decided it would take several hours to clean a system they would simply say it's more economically sound to re-format reinstall the system (which it it is). Then they would charge you $90 to back up ( restore?) the data on top of that. No hourly rate, just a comodtized fee for a service. Need apps reinstalled, same deal, a fee per-app. I'd say were going the direction of car repair where there is a set time fee allotted to a task and if you can get it done faster, the more profit in your pocket. This should be fine by us all since it free us from multi-hour surgeries potentially huge charges to the customer, it also justifies charging market value per incident. Chris Reeves wrote: There is a fundamental difference between doing it in a shop and at their local. If we do it at a shop, we have tons of techs who can work on 10+ PCs at once with multiple benches setup. So cost to us is less, cost to the customer is less. If I (or anyone) has to go to them, we are -only- working on that 1 PC at that time, we have a cost of gas involved, time traveled involved, other PCs not being worked on, etc. so the minimum is really a per hour, it's the only way to calculate revenue lost vs. revenue made to make it worth it. CW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 7:51 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: RE: [H] Disposable computers At 09:34 AM 19/07/2005, Wayne Johnson wrote: This is why I don't like to quote a per hour fee as I'm not a plumber. Many times I'll only charge $50 for cleaning a system maintaining their data intact while the other shops are charging several hundred for wiping the machine all it's data then charging the customer per hour to surf the net to retrieve the necessary drivers. I also like asking people how much is knowledge worth. ;-) Yes, I charge a flat rate for all our jobs. Sometimes I lose - but most times I'm accurate, and since I can do a bunch of machines simultaneously, it generally works out. (I'm not rich, however, so maybe I'm doing this wrong.) :) T
[H] Wireless NIC
I'm moving to a new apartment and will probably go 100% wireless. I prefer cat cable, but I want to keep this place neat. Is there any difference between a wireless usb nic, and a pci nic? I see the usb nics are cheaper. Do they have as high a transfer rate? Thanks, Chris
Re: [H] Disposable computers
The one thing that GS has that nobody else can touch is the brand. Most customers (lemmings) feel safer dealing with a big name company rather than Joe Blow Computer the sole proprietorship. It gives customers a sense of security in that they have a large company to hold accountable when there are problems. In addition, GS members are also insured bonded. How many local techs can say the same? So that's likely why the price is higher. warpmedia wrote: I think you're all missing the point that GS represents the state of the repair business vs. the cost of today's PC's. They're charging a set fee (and insane one) and getting it for REPEATED bad work on a daily basis. So yes, those of you charging less or feeling you need to give a customer a break are ripping yourselves off. If they came out and decided it would take several hours to clean a system they would simply say it's more economically sound to re-format reinstall the system (which it it is). Then they would charge you $90 to back up ( restore?) the data on top of that. No hourly rate, just a comodtized fee for a service. Need apps reinstalled, same deal, a fee per-app. I'd say were going the direction of car repair where there is a set time fee allotted to a task and if you can get it done faster, the more profit in your pocket. This should be fine by us all since it free us from multi-hour surgeries potentially huge charges to the customer, it also justifies charging market value per incident. Chris Reeves wrote: There is a fundamental difference between doing it in a shop and at their local. If we do it at a shop, we have tons of techs who can work on 10+ PCs at once with multiple benches setup. So cost to us is less, cost to the customer is less. If I (or anyone) has to go to them, we are -only- working on that 1 PC at that time, we have a cost of gas involved, time traveled involved, other PCs not being worked on, etc. so the minimum is really a per hour, it's the only way to calculate revenue lost vs. revenue made to make it worth it. CW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 7:51 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: RE: [H] Disposable computers At 09:34 AM 19/07/2005, Wayne Johnson wrote: This is why I don't like to quote a per hour fee as I'm not a plumber. Many times I'll only charge $50 for cleaning a system maintaining their data intact while the other shops are charging several hundred for wiping the machine all it's data then charging the customer per hour to surf the net to retrieve the necessary drivers. I also like asking people how much is knowledge worth. ;-) Yes, I charge a flat rate for all our jobs. Sometimes I lose - but most times I'm accurate, and since I can do a bunch of machines simultaneously, it generally works out. (I'm not rich, however, so maybe I'm doing this wrong.) :) T
Re: [H] Disposable computers
Bullshit, charge them the fee, reformat then charge them to setup the system network to properly defend them against future problems. That is a much more efficient use of their funds then cleaning a system that may or MAY NOT be clean when you're done. It also frees your from the nightmare of what they may have had installed causing you problems that you can't track down. In the my shop days we mostly did this because surgery was so hit or miss but we charged 3 hours to reinstall. More in some cases where the tech's were slow and the owner insisted that we charge even though it was the techs speed, not the real time it should have taken which I did not agree with, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 09:47 AM 19/07/2005, Christopher Klein wrote: When I get a customer who has an insane amount of spyware, I try to take it home with me. If I can watch TV, or do something else while running the scan I don't charge them nearly as much...maybe an hour total depending. That's my approach as well to onsite calls. T
Re: [H] Music mixing app
I second the recommedation of Audacity. It's pretty much Cool Edit without the cost. Steve On 7/19/05, Harry McGregor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it will do everything you want, but take a look at Audacity, audacity.sf.net Harry On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 23:46 -0500, joeuser wrote: I wondered if I was asking to much... Thanks for the input. Veech wrote: hoo boy, musid mixing apps don't come cheap, let alone free. Some may offer a 30-day trial demo, Cool Edit Pro used to. Check Adobe Audition or Sound Forge (Sonic Foundry) home pages to see if they let you d/l a demo version for free. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of joeuser Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 7:40 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: [H] Music mixing app Ok, here's a dilly... I have a client and her daughter coaches the local cheerleaders (yes, it's good to be me). Anyway, she wants me to mix some MP3's for their routines... I used to mix a little back when vinyl was still alive (barely). I was wondering if there was an app (free or REAL cheap) that can allow me to mix (maybe count my BPM since I don't have my counter anymore) and adjust pitch, speed, volume sedgeway etc etc... This is charity work so any help would be appreciated... Who'd charge for this *honor* anyway ;P LOL! TIA -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)
[H] Re: Music mixing app
How about Goldwave? http://www.goldwave.com/ On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 01:00:03 GMT joeuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wondered if I was asking to much... Thanks for the input. Veech wrote: hoo boy, musid mixing apps don't come cheap, let alone free. Some may offer a 30-day trial demo, Cool Edit Pro used to. Check Adobe Audition or Sound Forge (Sonic Foundry) home pages to see if they let you d/l a demo version for free. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of joeuser Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 7:40 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: [H] Music mixing app Ok, here's a dilly... I have a client and her daughter coaches the local cheerleaders (yes, it's good to be me). Anyway, she wants me to mix some MP3's for their routines... I used to mix a little back when vinyl was still alive (barely). I was wondering if there was an app (free or REAL cheap) that can allow me to mix (maybe count my BPM since I don't have my counter anymore) and adjust pitch, speed, volume sedgeway etc etc... This is charity work so any help would be appreciated... Who'd charge for this *honor* anyway ;P LOL! TIA -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key) -- C L Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt. And dance like no one is watching.
Re: [H] Disposable computers
At 10:11 AM 19/07/2005, Ben Ruset wrote: I've switched to $90/hr, $60/hr each additional. Seems to work out OK for me. Oftentimes, though, I will round down so 1.5hr ends up being $90. I may be too nice. It's $55 Cdn an hour here - only for onsite calls, however. T
Re: [H] Latest 2000 roll up patch
When my i8200 is manually suspended, I must push the power switch to wake it up again. Otherwise it wakes on keyboard or mouse activity from simple sleeping. Are you sure that all the Allow this device to wake settings are still enabled in the NIC setup, etc...? Ben Ruset wrote: Check your BIOS settings as well. Maybe something there activated a sleep mode. Winterlight wrote: I have a old 233CP Latitude that I use as a print server, and a few other things. It has been running 2K SP4 great for almost a year. It is plugged into power with no battery. I just did MS updates which now includes the new 2K roll up patch. After I did the patch the laptop keeps going into a standby mode that is so deep that I have to push the power button to get it back on line. My fist thought was that they have changed a setting in the power setting but none of the Power settings relating to this have changed. The only thing that changed was that it required a log in from standby mode which I just unchecked. And yet instead of just going into a standby mode that a print request, or a keyboard / mouse movement will bring it out of, it goes so deep I have to press the power mode button to use it. I am about ready to restore my backup because as is, it is unusable as a print server... any ideas? This sucks, why can't MS ask you before it changes stuff like this!
Re: [H] Disposable computers
At 11:14 AM 7/19/2005, warpmedia typed: They're charging a set fee (and insane one) and getting it for REPEATED bad work on a daily basis. So yes, those of you charging less or feeling you need to give a customer a break are ripping yourselves off. Are you kidding? We're killing HP. lol See http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/07/19/ap/business/main709913.shtml where it talks about them cutting 14,500 Jobs especially in the area of [you guessed it] support. --+-- Wayne D. Johnson Ashland, OH, USA 44805 http://www.wavijo.com
Re: [H] Disposable computers
I'd say it takes about 4 hours to be thorough. Sometimes a little longer for machines with unknown malware that you have to root out by hand. I quote 2 to 3 hours to the customer. Once in awhile I can get done quickly but anymore it takes longer then I quote. I always give a free hour in the least. My typical job is about twice Wayne's price (around 100.00) but my hourly is less then his. Thane Sherrington wrote: I was just wondering about the average time it takes you. I find it takes at least four hours to thoroughly scan for viruses and spyware. More if there is hardware corruption, or if the machine is slow or has a ton of files on it. T -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)
Re: [H] Disposable computers
At 12:14 PM 19/07/2005, warpmedia wrote: I'd say were going the direction of car repair where there is a set time fee allotted to a task and if you can get it done faster, the more profit in your pocket. This should be fine by us all since it free us from multi-hour surgeries potentially huge charges to the customer, it also justifies charging market value per incident. I agree. And it's easier for the customer. Which would you prefer if you didn't know anything about computers: Virus and spyware removal - $32 or Virus and spyware removal - $45 per hour and it could take two or more hours, but we can't say until we're done? T
Re: [H] Wireless NIC
CPU usage is likely higher with USB vs. PCI. Christopher Klein wrote: I'm moving to a new apartment and will probably go 100% wireless. I prefer cat cable, but I want to keep this place neat. Is there any difference between a wireless usb nic, and a pci nic? I see the usb nics are cheaper. Do they have as high a transfer rate? Thanks, Chris
Re: [H] Disposable computers
At 12:21 PM 19/07/2005, Ben Ruset wrote: The one thing that GS has that nobody else can touch is the brand. Most customers (lemmings) feel safer dealing with a big name company rather than Joe Blow Computer the sole proprietorship. It gives customers a sense of security in that they have a large company to hold accountable when there are problems. The problem with small companies that there are a good number of rip off artists out there, and once someone is burned by a small shop, he/she is leery to try another one. In addition, GS members are also insured bonded. How many local techs can say the same? I'm insured, but not bonded. Is that something I should consider? T
Re: [H] Disposable computers
Same here. I try to be as ruthless as possible with my on site charges esp when I could do the work back at the shop and the customer has been so informed. Thane Sherrington wrote: At 09:47 AM 19/07/2005, Christopher Klein wrote: When I get a customer who has an insane amount of spyware, I try to take it home with me. If I can watch TV, or do something else while running the scan I don't charge them nearly as much...maybe an hour total depending. That's my approach as well to onsite calls. T -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)
Re: [H] Wireless NIC
I think they are the same but when you can move the USB NIC around to obtain a better signal it's a better deal. I use and sell USB NIC's. Christopher Klein wrote: I'm moving to a new apartment and will probably go 100% wireless. I prefer cat cable, but I want to keep this place neat. Is there any difference between a wireless usb nic, and a pci nic? I see the usb nics are cheaper. Do they have as high a transfer rate? Thanks, Chris -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)
Re: [H] Disposable computers
To get bonded is nothing.. just have no felony convictions, have insurance, and pay a very small fee. It's nothing. -Original message- From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:39:27 -0500 To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Disposable computers At 12:21 PM 19/07/2005, Ben Ruset wrote: The one thing that GS has that nobody else can touch is the brand. Most customers (lemmings) feel safer dealing with a big name company rather than Joe Blow Computer the sole proprietorship. It gives customers a sense of security in that they have a large company to hold accountable when there are problems. The problem with small companies that there are a good number of rip off artists out there, and once someone is burned by a small shop, he/she is leery to try another one. In addition, GS members are also insured bonded. How many local techs can say the same? I'm insured, but not bonded. Is that something I should consider? T
Re: [H] Disposable computers
Lemmings don't think, so I doubt it's the bonded insured thing (which I wonder just how much if at all they are BI). It's not more, it's about the same with a few things broken out priced that regular shops would just charge per hour for. Bottom line is one size fits all, ala cart pricing. You I have seen just how much BS the customer will put up with and STILL come back for more. GS is on the same track except I don't think they are fixing as many PC's as we did, just re-fixing them fixing them again while charging over over. Ben Ruset wrote: The one thing that GS has that nobody else can touch is the brand. Most customers (lemmings) feel safer dealing with a big name company rather than Joe Blow Computer the sole proprietorship. It gives customers a sense of security in that they have a large company to hold accountable when there are problems. In addition, GS members are also insured bonded. How many local techs can say the same? So that's likely why the price is higher. warpmedia wrote: I think you're all missing the point that GS represents the state of the repair business vs. the cost of today's PC's. They're charging a set fee (and insane one) and getting it for REPEATED bad work on a daily basis. So yes, those of you charging less or feeling you need to give a customer a break are ripping yourselves off. If they came out and decided it would take several hours to clean a system they would simply say it's more economically sound to re-format reinstall the system (which it it is). Then they would charge you $90 to back up ( restore?) the data on top of that. No hourly rate, just a comodtized fee for a service. Need apps reinstalled, same deal, a fee per-app. I'd say were going the direction of car repair where there is a set time fee allotted to a task and if you can get it done faster, the more profit in your pocket. This should be fine by us all since it free us from multi-hour surgeries potentially huge charges to the customer, it also justifies charging market value per incident.
Re: [H] Re: Music mixing app
IIRC Goldwave is shareware. Audacity is Freeware. Might be the only difference. I've never used Goldwave. Steve On 7/19/05, Chris Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about Goldwave? http://www.goldwave.com/ On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 01:00:03 GMT joeuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wondered if I was asking to much... Thanks for the input. Veech wrote: hoo boy, musid mixing apps don't come cheap, let alone free. Some may offer a 30-day trial demo, Cool Edit Pro used to. Check Adobe Audition or Sound Forge (Sonic Foundry) home pages to see if they let you d/l a demo version for free. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of joeuser Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 7:40 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: [H] Music mixing app Ok, here's a dilly... I have a client and her daughter coaches the local cheerleaders (yes, it's good to be me). Anyway, she wants me to mix some MP3's for their routines... I used to mix a little back when vinyl was still alive (barely). I was wondering if there was an app (free or REAL cheap) that can allow me to mix (maybe count my BPM since I don't have my counter anymore) and adjust pitch, speed, volume sedgeway etc etc... This is charity work so any help would be appreciated... Who'd charge for this *honor* anyway ;P LOL! TIA -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key) -- C L Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt. And dance like no one is watching.
Re: [H] Disposable computers
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005, Thane Sherrington wrote: I agree. And it's easier for the customer. Which would you prefer if you didn't know anything about computers: Virus and spyware removal - $32 or Virus and spyware removal - $45 per hour and it could take two or more hours, but we can't say until we're done? well, consider this: Company X does it for $90/hr, company Y does it at $100/hr, you do it for $32 flat fee. First thing I would wonder as a customer is Why is his price so much lower than all these big companies? Being that much lower than your competition can push the customers to your competition as well, people distrust a price that seems strange to them. Maybe a Why is our price so much lower FAQ? Christopher Fisk -- Homer: Little baby batter, Can't control his bladder! Burns: Mmm...Crude, but I like it. What do you say we freshen up out little drinkie poos? Homer: Don't mind if I do. Dancin' Homer cBlog: http://chris.uasoft.com/
Re: [H] Disposable computers
And what retail repair business does HP run? I stand by my statement that by trying to be a good guy you are stealing from yourself. Though I agree the customer is much better served by bringing the machine to you to be work on at your convince vs. paying inflated on-site charges. I mean, what car repair place comes to your house fixes your engine or changes your breaks??? =) Wayne Johnson wrote: At 11:14 AM 7/19/2005, warpmedia typed: They're charging a set fee (and insane one) and getting it for REPEATED bad work on a daily basis. So yes, those of you charging less or feeling you need to give a customer a break are ripping yourselves off. Are you kidding? We're killing HP. lol See http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/07/19/ap/business/main709913.shtml where it talks about them cutting 14,500 Jobs especially in the area of [you guessed it] support. --+-- Wayne D. Johnson Ashland, OH, USA 44805 http://www.wavijo.com
Re: [H] Wireless NIC
Show me a good USB nic with an antenna then? Last time I bought one from netgear, I found the customer got better reception with the card antenna. To be fair, I have the same antenna issues with PCMCIA card on my laptop but put up with it. Also I had thought that USB created more CPU overhead than PCI did? joeuser wrote: I think they are the same but when you can move the USB NIC around to obtain a better signal it's a better deal. I use and sell USB NIC's. Christopher Klein wrote: I'm moving to a new apartment and will probably go 100% wireless. I prefer cat cable, but I want to keep this place neat. Is there any difference between a wireless usb nic, and a pci nic? I see the usb nics are cheaper. Do they have as high a transfer rate? Thanks, Chris
Re: [H] Disposable computers
Thane Sherrington wrote: I'm insured, but not bonded. Is that something I should consider? I dunno. I'm not even insured. But then again I try to limit dealing with on-site service or really anything outside of my 9-5 IT job.
Re: [H] Disposable computers
At 12:43 PM 19/07/2005, CW wrote: To get bonded is nothing.. just have no felony convictions, have insurance, and pay a very small fee. It's nothing. I thought so. Why would anyone really care? T
Re: [H] Disposable computers
Slight difference though; the car doesn't contain nudie pictures of their wife, their checkbook, and video of that wild party in Cabo San Lucas. :) .. Most people have stuff in their PC maybe they don't want to be in the hands of others, free to be spread at will or copied off for some tech guy in his house.. so they like to keep it close at hand; never leave there house, so they can make sure there data.. and certain things.. never leave. I know this sounds silly, but just my experience. CW -Original message- From: warpmedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:52:44 -0500 To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Disposable computers And what retail repair business does HP run? I stand by my statement that by trying to be a good guy you are stealing from yourself. Though I agree the customer is much better served by bringing the machine to you to be work on at your convince vs. paying inflated on-site charges. I mean, what car repair place comes to your house fixes your engine or changes your breaks??? =) Wayne Johnson wrote: At 11:14 AM 7/19/2005, warpmedia typed: They're charging a set fee (and insane one) and getting it for REPEATED bad work on a daily basis. So yes, those of you charging less or feeling you need to give a customer a break are ripping yourselves off. Are you kidding? We're killing HP. lol See http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/07/19/ap/business/main709913.shtml where it talks about them cutting 14,500 Jobs especially in the area of [you guessed it] support. --+-- Wayne D. Johnson Ashland, OH, USA 44805 http://www.wavijo.com
Re: [H] Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios Inc. et al. v. Grokster, Ltd., et al.
One simple question: How much did GL loose due to STW3 being pirated? Answer, who cares he set a record at the box office for revenue anyway! If I'm a lazy apathetic ass who d/ls movies or waits watches on cable (hbo, showtime, etc...) what money did they or do they stand to gain from me in the first place? None, I wasn't going to the movies in the 1st place. If I do buy a DVD and show 5 friends who never saw it and they never buy it, how much does anyone loose? Technically they loose 5x the price unless seeing it drives someone to buy it. Libraries lend out books music for free, where's the revenue stream in that? Get over it people copyright and phantom proffits lost are BS where the enough people paying for something to begin with to offset the freeloaders. RIAA fears us becoming Russia or the Asian markets where no one pays for anything. Not gonna happen if the record breaking proffits likes STW3 are any indication of how many legit people shell out $10+ for a movie. Don't make it legal, just go after people copying CHARGING for pirated movies which is a true lost sale and leave the leeches alone. After all do you think if no one ever copied anything that prices would drop (prices are high to offset piracy, right?) proffits increase? No, but WOULD proffits increase and still they would bitch about lost sales to people who didn't want to see their controlled IP at any price. Thane Sherrington wrote: At 03:22 PM 06/07/2005, Hayes Elkins wrote: work deserves the same amount of protection from theft and exploitation that a purchaser of that work has. Is there anybody here who honestly thinks it should be legal to download a DVD copy for free that you would otherwise have to pay for? Nonsense. Conversely, does anyone here think it's reasonable that someone should be able to charge $30 for a DVD? I doubt it. And the argument, if you don't want to pay, don't buy doesn't cut it. There's no competition on movie ticket and DVD prices, so the consumer gets what price the industry fixes. Find another industry where that's the norm. People are using P2P to avoid what they consider to be over inflated prices. Does that make it right? Maybe not, but it's probably just as right as any rebellion against what is seen as an unfair regime. T
Re: [H] Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios Inc. et al. v. Grokster, Ltd., et al.
Whoops, thought that went to trash! warpmedia wrote: One simple question: How much did GL loose due to STW3 being pirated? Answer, who cares he set a record at the box office for revenue anyway!
Re: [H] Latest 2000 roll up patch
At 08:34 AM 7/19/2005, you wrote: When my i8200 is manually suspended, I must push the power switch to wake it up again. Otherwise it wakes on keyboard or mouse activity from simple sleeping. Well, my latitude didn't behave like this before the patch, but now I can not let it stand by or it requires the power switch to bring it back to life. If I restore my backup image it goes back to behaving like it did before, which tells me it has nothing to do with hardware. The patch has changed something in the OS that effects laptop Power Settings but doesn't appear as a option. I have read through what the roll up does and I don't see any mention of Power. I' guessing that this is a unintended bug http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;900345 After thinking about it, I realized that this laptop has three jobs, Print Server, extra backup storage, and I use it to upload a weekly backup with ftp. The only time I launch Internet explorer is to get updates that I don't really need. I run System Works firewall and anti virus in the background, probably don't need them. But in any case I am going back to my image file and forget about any other updates. Are you sure that all the Allow this device to wake settings are still enabled in the NIC setup, etc...? Ben Ruset wrote: Check your BIOS settings as well. Maybe something there activated a sleep mode. Winterlight wrote: I have a old 233CP Latitude that I use as a print server, and a few other things. It has been running 2K SP4 great for almost a year. It is plugged into power with no battery. I just did MS updates which now includes the new 2K roll up patch. After I did the patch the laptop keeps going into a standby mode that is so deep that I have to push the power button to get it back on line. My fist thought was that they have changed a setting in the power setting but none of the Power settings relating to this have changed. The only thing that changed was that it required a log in from standby mode which I just unchecked. And yet instead of just going into a standby mode that a print request, or a keyboard / mouse movement will bring it out of, it goes so deep I have to press the power mode button to use it. I am about ready to restore my backup because as is, it is unusable as a print server... any ideas? This sucks, why can't MS ask you before it changes stuff like this!
Re: [H] Latest 2000 roll up patch
Which is why I was saying to check the various devices like NIC Mouse, etc... to make sure they have Allow this device to bring system out of standby checked. Many of those update could have changed that. If not, then I'd guess you're right it's a bug. Winterlight wrote: At 08:34 AM 7/19/2005, you wrote: When my i8200 is manually suspended, I must push the power switch to wake it up again. Otherwise it wakes on keyboard or mouse activity from simple sleeping. Well, my latitude didn't behave like this before the patch, but now I can not let it stand by or it requires the power switch to bring it back to life. If I restore my backup image it goes back to behaving like it did before, which tells me it has nothing to do with hardware. The patch has changed something in the OS that effects laptop Power Settings but doesn't appear as a option. I have read through what the roll up does and I don't see any mention of Power. I' guessing that this is a unintended bug http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;900345 After thinking about it, I realized that this laptop has three jobs, Print Server, extra backup storage, and I use it to upload a weekly backup with ftp. The only time I launch Internet explorer is to get updates that I don't really need. I run System Works firewall and anti virus in the background, probably don't need them. But in any case I am going back to my image file and forget about any other updates. Are you sure that all the Allow this device to wake settings are still enabled in the NIC setup, etc...?
[H] Spyware tools
I've been following the cheap computer thread closely. What are you guys using to clean up the spyware? I've seen a couple of articles where several of the more popular were tested most of them are claiming that CounterSpy is at the top. Some of the articles have been blasting MS several others that are removing several known adwares from their list of baddies. Adaware was one of those that was taking some of these off their list as well. I saw where a couple of you were using Adaware, as well as I do. But I'm doing some serious reconsidering because of this news. I'm considering CounterSpy. I signed up to be a reseller for them a few months ago also. What about you?? -- C L Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt. And dance like no one is watching.
RE: [H] Spyware tools
I think you're a fool if you don't use more then 1. I keep an Bart disc around with Spybot SD 1.4, Ad-Aware, and then with net access, I use TrendMicro's scanner. CW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Shaw Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 1:46 PM To: Hardware List Subject: [H] Spyware tools I've been following the cheap computer thread closely. What are you guys using to clean up the spyware? I've seen a couple of articles where several of the more popular were tested most of them are claiming that CounterSpy is at the top. Some of the articles have been blasting MS several others that are removing several known adwares from their list of baddies. Adaware was one of those that was taking some of these off their list as well. I saw where a couple of you were using Adaware, as well as I do. But I'm doing some serious reconsidering because of this news. I'm considering CounterSpy. I signed up to be a reseller for them a few months ago also. What about you?? -- C L Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt. And dance like no one is watching.
Re: [H] Spyware tools
At 04:39 PM 19/07/2005, W. D. wrote: SpywareBlaster I use that as well, but didn't mention it, since it's an innoculator, not a cleaner. XCleaner Never tried it. T
RE: [H] norton corporate AV ?
Check your memory footprint. The average footprint is close to 75-100MB, and shrinks to about 25MB post fix. (Assuming the only snap-in is the outlook module. The lotus and SMTP modules balloon it further) From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:05:00 -0700 do you have any links about this ? recently put 10 in ( from 9 ) but really hadn't notice any problems. ( or improvements over 9 either ) if a major bug I could go back to 9 fp At 07:27 AM 7/19/2005, Hayes Elkins Poked the stick with: Oh and the real joy is that this needs to be executed by EACH user of the client pc. From: Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 00:04:16 -0400 Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks] [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks] CreatedUserQuickScan=dword:0001 CopiedDefaultScanOptions=dword:0001 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks\Default Scan Options] ScanForGreyware=dword: ScanNotifyStopService=dword:0001 ScanNotifyReboot=dword:0002 ScanNotifyTerminateProcess=dword:0001 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks\TaskPadStartup] From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:15:39 -0700 how about sharing the *fix* then. fp At 09:24 AM 7/18/2005, Hayes Elkins Poked the stick with: The new version, SAVCE v10, is a POS. One revision deep and STILL no built in fix for the startscan memory leak. Manual registry hack is the only way to fix. From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 06:26:34 -0700 Not sure why but all of a sudden my NAV is taking 6 hours plus to scan. Set to scan every night at midnight and it is still running when I get up at 6AM. not sure WTF any clues appreciated fp -- Tallyho ! ]:8) -- Don't judge a book by its mini-series. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) -- Don't judge a book by its mini-series. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) -- Don't judge a book by its mini-series.
Re: [H] Spyware tools
I'm not hugely fond of CounterSpy, myself. I've been using Ad-aware, Spybot, SpySweeper, Hijaack This (and of course, most AVs also do at least some Spyware now.) I use Ad-Aware, SpySweeper, and MS AntiSpyware. I've really started to depreciate Spybot...other tools seem to be vastly superior. Greg
Re: [H] Disposable computers
Samsung or Xerox. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [H] Disposable computers LOL! Yeah, I love it. HP slowly destroys itself. Their service has gone down the crapper too. And their laser printers take far too long to boot up. I always said that HP is the only name in printers, but make a lousy computer, like the rest of the name brands. My HP LaserJet 1100 has served me well for years. When it does go South, what brand of color laser should I replace my black white HP laser printer with? Chuck -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)
Re: [H] norton corporate AV ?
Does the problem exist with most recent version 10.0.1.1000? - Original Message - From: Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 9:27 AM Subject: RE: [H] norton corporate AV ? Oh and the real joy is that this needs to be executed by EACH user of the client pc. From: Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 00:04:16 -0400 Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks] [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks] CreatedUserQuickScan=dword:0001 CopiedDefaultScanOptions=dword:0001 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks\Default Scan Options] ScanForGreyware=dword: ScanNotifyStopService=dword:0001 ScanNotifyReboot=dword:0002 ScanNotifyTerminateProcess=dword:0001 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks\TaskPadStartup] From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:15:39 -0700 how about sharing the *fix* then. fp At 09:24 AM 7/18/2005, Hayes Elkins Poked the stick with: The new version, SAVCE v10, is a POS. One revision deep and STILL no built in fix for the startscan memory leak. Manual registry hack is the only way to fix. From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 06:26:34 -0700 Not sure why but all of a sudden my NAV is taking 6 hours plus to scan. Set to scan every night at midnight and it is still running when I get up at 6AM. not sure WTF any clues appreciated fp -- Tallyho ! ]:8) -- Don't judge a book by its mini-series. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) -- Don't judge a book by its mini-series.
Re: [H] norton corporate AV ?
Yes. From: TX-GM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 18:13:47 -0500 Does the problem exist with most recent version 10.0.1.1000? - Original Message - From: Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 9:27 AM Subject: RE: [H] norton corporate AV ? Oh and the real joy is that this needs to be executed by EACH user of the client pc. From: Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 00:04:16 -0400 Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks] [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks] CreatedUserQuickScan=dword:0001 CopiedDefaultScanOptions=dword:0001 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks\Default Scan Options] ScanForGreyware=dword: ScanNotifyStopService=dword:0001 ScanNotifyReboot=dword:0002 ScanNotifyTerminateProcess=dword:0001 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks\TaskPadStartup] From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:15:39 -0700 how about sharing the *fix* then. fp At 09:24 AM 7/18/2005, Hayes Elkins Poked the stick with: The new version, SAVCE v10, is a POS. One revision deep and STILL no built in fix for the startscan memory leak. Manual registry hack is the only way to fix. From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 06:26:34 -0700 Not sure why but all of a sudden my NAV is taking 6 hours plus to scan. Set to scan every night at midnight and it is still running when I get up at 6AM. not sure WTF any clues appreciated fp -- Tallyho ! ]:8) -- Don't judge a book by its mini-series. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) -- Don't judge a book by its mini-series.
Re: [H] norton corporate AV ?
Ugh. I've switched all of our corporate PC's to ClamWin anti-virus. Seems to do a good job, auto-updates, and best of all - is free. I have never liked Symantec/Norton AV. Best commercial product I have used has been McAfee VirusScan Enterprise, but it's expensive and their central management is a pain. Hayes Elkins wrote: Yes. From: TX-GM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 18:13:47 -0500 Does the problem exist with most recent version 10.0.1.1000? - Original Message - From: Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 9:27 AM Subject: RE: [H] norton corporate AV ? Oh and the real joy is that this needs to be executed by EACH user of the client pc. From: Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 00:04:16 -0400 Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks] [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks] CreatedUserQuickScan=dword:0001 CopiedDefaultScanOptions=dword:0001 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks\Default Scan Options] ScanForGreyware=dword: ScanNotifyStopService=dword:0001 ScanNotifyReboot=dword:0002 ScanNotifyTerminateProcess=dword:0001 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custom Tasks\TaskPadStartup] From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:15:39 -0700 how about sharing the *fix* then. fp At 09:24 AM 7/18/2005, Hayes Elkins Poked the stick with: The new version, SAVCE v10, is a POS. One revision deep and STILL no built in fix for the startscan memory leak. Manual registry hack is the only way to fix. From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 06:26:34 -0700 Not sure why but all of a sudden my NAV is taking 6 hours plus to scan. Set to scan every night at midnight and it is still running when I get up at 6AM. not sure WTF any clues appreciated fp -- Tallyho ! ]:8) -- Don't judge a book by its mini-series. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) -- Don't judge a book by its mini-series.
RE: [H] norton corporate AV ?
On the corporate level, I really like TrendMicro's OfficeScan series. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Ruset Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 7:36 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] norton corporate AV ? Ugh. I've switched all of our corporate PC's to ClamWin anti-virus. Seems to do a good job, auto-updates, and best of all - is free. I have never liked Symantec/Norton AV. Best commercial product I have used has been McAfee VirusScan Enterprise, but it's expensive and their central management is a pain. Hayes Elkins wrote: Yes. From: TX-GM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 18:13:47 -0500 Does the problem exist with most recent version 10.0.1.1000? - Original Message - From: Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 9:27 AM Subject: RE: [H] norton corporate AV ? Oh and the real joy is that this needs to be executed by EACH user of the client pc. From: Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 00:04:16 -0400 Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Cust om Tasks] [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custo m Tasks] CreatedUserQuickScan=dword:0001 CopiedDefaultScanOptions=dword:0001 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custo m Tasks\Default Scan Options] ScanForGreyware=dword: ScanNotifyStopService=dword:0001 ScanNotifyReboot=dword:0002 ScanNotifyTerminateProcess=dword:0001 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Intel\LANDesk\VirusProtect6\CurrentVersion\Custo m Tasks\TaskPadStartup] From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:15:39 -0700 how about sharing the *fix* then. fp At 09:24 AM 7/18/2005, Hayes Elkins Poked the stick with: The new version, SAVCE v10, is a POS. One revision deep and STILL no built in fix for the startscan memory leak. Manual registry hack is the only way to fix. From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 06:26:34 -0700 Not sure why but all of a sudden my NAV is taking 6 hours plus to scan. Set to scan every night at midnight and it is still running when I get up at 6AM. not sure WTF any clues appreciated fp -- Tallyho ! ]:8) -- Don't judge a book by its mini-series. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) -- Don't judge a book by its mini-series.
Re: [H] norton corporate AV ?
We played with that. The boss didn't want to pay for it so we switched to Clam. Chris Reeves wrote: On the corporate level, I really like TrendMicro's OfficeScan series. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Ruset Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 7:36 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] norton corporate AV ? Ugh. I've switched all of our corporate PC's to ClamWin anti-virus. Seems to do a good job, auto-updates, and best of all - is free. I have never liked Symantec/Norton AV. Best commercial product I have used has been McAfee VirusScan Enterprise, but it's expensive and their central management is a pain.
Re: [H] Disposable computers
At 06:09 PM 7/19/2005, you wrote: Samsung or Xerox. -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key) Wow, has HP really fallen that far? The most recent printers I have are 3 old faithful 6MPs. Built like tanks - been working great since 1995. Also have 3P somewhere, though the rollers are really creaky. -- JW
[H] Firefox 1.06 out
You know where. CW
Re: [H] Firefox 1.06 out
what the?... there was just a 1.0.5 release... what's fixed in 1.0.6On 7/19/05, Chris Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know where. CW -- -Franciscohttp://pcthis.blogspot.com |PC news with out the jargon!http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...
