Re: [H] Cell phone records

2006-10-11 Thread Anthony Q. Martin

Well, I hope she's not that. I really don't know what to think of her now.

Jeff Lane wrote:
:: There was a Clint Eastwood film, Play Misty for Me which portrayed
:: a homicidal female stalker...hm.
:: 
:: 
:: - Original Message -

:: From: Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:: To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
:: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 5:10 AM
:: Subject: Re: [H] Cell phone records
:: 
:: 
::: Julian Hale wrote:

: At 12:46 PM 10/9/2006, you wrote:
:: Actually, she thinks I'm ugly.  After we met, instead of just
:: walking away, she decided to drive the point home in a very
:: devious manner, posing as if she wanted a relationship to lead
:: me on, I guess.  However, when I broke things off, she decided
:: to reveal her vile plan. Frankly, my the only reason I can see
:: why she did this was for her own (and those she works with)
:: enjoyment.  This would make such a great the TV talk show story.
:: Of course, I'm not going to reveal any real personal details
:: here.  She claims to have hacked into my e-mail accounts, called
:: past girlfriends, obtain personal phone records, and more.  Most
:: of it could be lies, though, because she hadn't feed me back
:: anything I didn't tell her. 
: 
: Holy crap, she is a nut.  IMO, she was mad at you for breaking it

: off.  She said all those things in order to try to make herself
: look/feel better.  Stay away, far, far away, she's no good at all.
: She may even force you to file a restraining order against her...
::: 
::: I believe you are 100% correct.  Her actions leading up to what

::: happened over the last 24 hours of the break up do not support her
::: actions over several months, with a couple of interesting
::: exceptions.  I think she had a mental snap that took all restraints
::: off, and she unloaded on me with both barrels.  She had tried to
::: pull a pretty sly manipulation over on me too. It worked the first
::: time she did it but not the second time.  The second time revealed
::: her very devious nature. 
::: 
::: She's 1500 miles away, so hopefully that will mute any evil cards

::: she might still wish to play.  Her personality is such that I must
::: expect to hear from her again, however.  I'd be surprised if she
::: could just walk away.
::: 
::: Thanks.


Re: [H] dumb newb linux questions

2006-10-11 Thread Harry McGregor

RLS wrote:


Just did my first Linux based install using Unbuntu. It is pretty graphical
and I am surprised by all of the native applications types available from
the get go.

Question 1
I installed the 64 bit version. Can I install Linux64 bit drivers for the
motherboard, netcard etc? 
 

Drivers in the windows sense don't really exist much for Linux.  Most 
hardware is natively supported by the kernel.  Any hardware maker that 
intends to have full linux support must get their drivers into the 
mainline kernel or else they will be playing a game of catchup with 
every kernel release.  The kernel development team does not care for, or 
take the time to test, with 3rd party drivers.


All of the drivers install by the unbuntu install are already the 64 bit 
versions, as you are running a 64 bit kernel.


If any hardware is not detected or working, post it to the list, and we 
can see what is going on with it.



Question 2
Besides the desire to game, why wouldn't a typical home user want a linux
based system? Heck all of the apps seem free, its graphical, even supports
my camera out of the box. I mean for just word processing, surfing the
internet and looking at pics and playing some mp3's is there a valid reason
for them 'wanting' Windows?

 

Some distros (Debian for example) don't ship with MP3 codecs, as they 
would have to pay very large licensing costs to then distrubute it for 
free.  I don't know if unbuntu ships with MP3 codecs or not, but they 
are easy to ad via an external apt source.


Typical power user will have issues with a linux desktop, as all of the 
neat tricks they learned under windows may or may not apply.  Your 
average user does great, as long as they don't admin the system 
(changing hardware can be a little tricky at time, adding devices can be 
hit or miss if you don't know what you are doing, etc).


Your average managed desktop in a corporate or educational environment 
can do great with Linux.  Linux is admin friendly or expert friendly, 
it's also user friendly, it's not idiot user who thinks they can admin a 
system friendly.


The biggest road block is Windows only intranet (not internet, but local 
intranet) applications, and Windows only custom applications for 
industry specific use.  The more of those that move to a Web 2.0 model 
using Linux server appliances, the better.



So far the only thing that has me off a step is getting comfortable with the
way the file management system presents itself.
 


Basically, as a user, all you care about is /home/$user

   Harry


Thanks,Bob

 





[H] Using a webcam for security

2006-10-11 Thread Thane Sherrington
I have a customer who works for a Salvation Army Centre who wants to 
setup an old PC with a webcam and record the front of their building 
where they are having a problem with vandalism.  He wants to record 
the video (or stills taken every second or two) to the hard drive but 
only when there's motion outside.  He also wants to be able to login 
over the net and see what the webcam is recording currently at any 
time.  Anyone ever set anything like this up and have suggestions?


T



RE: [H] dumb newb linux --mshome NOT

2006-10-11 Thread RLS
Well, got most of everything working, internet,etc,etc.

But for whatever reason when I search WindowsNetwork, I show 'MSHOME' AND
'WORKGROUP'  but... can't get beyond that. 


What have I missed.



Re: [H] Cell phone records

2006-10-11 Thread Jeff Lane
Maybe it's hermit timecabin in the Alaskan, 
or maybe Greenland, wilderness



- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: [H] Cell phone records



Well, I hope she's not that. I really don't know what to think of her now.

Jeff Lane wrote:
:: There was a Clint Eastwood film, Play Misty for Me which portrayed
:: a homicidal female stalker...hm.
:: :: :: - Original Message -
:: From: Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:: To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
:: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 5:10 AM
:: Subject: Re: [H] Cell phone records
:: :: ::: Julian Hale wrote:
: At 12:46 PM 10/9/2006, you wrote:
:: Actually, she thinks I'm ugly.  After we met, instead of just
:: walking away, she decided to drive the point home in a very
:: devious manner, posing as if she wanted a relationship to lead
:: me on, I guess.  However, when I broke things off, she decided
:: to reveal her vile plan. Frankly, my the only reason I can see
:: why she did this was for her own (and those she works with)
:: enjoyment.  This would make such a great the TV talk show story.
:: Of course, I'm not going to reveal any real personal details
:: here.  She claims to have hacked into my e-mail accounts, called
:: past girlfriends, obtain personal phone records, and more.  Most
:: of it could be lies, though, because she hadn't feed me back
:: anything I didn't tell her. : : Holy crap, she is a nut. 
IMO, she was mad at you for breaking it

: off.  She said all those things in order to try to make herself
: look/feel better.  Stay away, far, far away, she's no good at all.
: She may even force you to file a restraining order against her...
::: ::: I believe you are 100% correct.  Her actions leading up to what
::: happened over the last 24 hours of the break up do not support her
::: actions over several months, with a couple of interesting
::: exceptions.  I think she had a mental snap that took all restraints
::: off, and she unloaded on me with both barrels.  She had tried to
::: pull a pretty sly manipulation over on me too. It worked the first
::: time she did it but not the second time.  The second time revealed
::: her very devious nature. ::: ::: She's 1500 miles away, so hopefully 
that will mute any evil cards

::: she might still wish to play.  Her personality is such that I must
::: expect to hear from her again, however.  I'd be surprised if she
::: could just walk away.
::: ::: Thanks.





Re: [H] dumb newb linux questions

2006-10-11 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 02:54 PM 11/10/2006, Winterlight wrote:

Multimedia, particular video, TV recording, editing, ...and of 
course proprietary business software that the vast majority of small 
business relies on.


MythTV would handle the TV stuff, wouldn't it?  As for proprietary 
business software, we don't see a lot of that around here 
anymore.  Most people are using specialized spreadsheets and that's about it.


T 



Re: [H] dumb newb linux questions

2006-10-11 Thread j m g

For grabbing codecs/fonts/players on K/Ed/Ubuntu take a look at
EasyUbuntu or Automatix.

At this point with the likes of *Ubuntu, Suse, Mandriva, they
generally have everything you need to get started.  If you start
getting into the audio/video editing side you have to make sure your
hardware is supported, I've gone through 2 albeit older vid capture
cards that there was no docs or info on getting setup in Linux.  But
the for all the naysayers the 80/20 kind of applies - at least 80% of
everything you need to do isn't going to take any more effort on a
Linux box than a Windows box.

And for those proprietary business applications? after being through a
couple of large scale desktop migration projects - they're a PITA to
get config'd and running on their own specific platform regardless of
wether is *nix or Windows

On 10/11/06, Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Question 2
Besides the desire to game, why wouldn't a typical home user want a linux
based system? Heck all of the apps seem free, its graphical, even supports
my camera out of the box. I mean for just word processing, surfing the
internet and looking at pics and playing some mp3's is there a valid reason
for them 'wanting' Windows?

Multimedia, particular video, TV recording, editing, ...and of course
proprietary business software that the vast majority of small business
relies on.





--
-jmg
-sapere aude


Re: [H] Using a webcam for security

2006-10-11 Thread Ben Ruset
You'd have a hard time at night. Even the IR equipped cameras are pretty 
weak at a distance.


Thane Sherrington wrote:
I have a customer who works for a Salvation Army Centre who wants to 
setup an old PC with a webcam and record the front of their building 
where they are having a problem with vandalism.  He wants to record the 
video (or stills taken every second or two) to the hard drive but only 
when there's motion outside.  He also wants to be able to login over the 
net and see what the webcam is recording currently at any time.  Anyone 
ever set anything like this up and have suggestions?


T




Re: [H] dumb newb linux questions

2006-10-11 Thread Winterlight

At 10:57 AM 10/11/2006, you wrote:

At 02:54 PM 11/10/2006, Winterlight wrote:

Multimedia, particular video, TV recording, editing, ...and of course 
proprietary business software that the vast majority of small business 
relies on.


MythTV would handle the TV stuff, wouldn't it?


no, very few TV cards are supported with Myth TV  nothing ATI for one.

  As for proprietary business software, we don't see a lot of that around 
here anymore.  Most people are using specialized spreadsheets and that's 
about it.


I think you are refereeing to simple mom and pop POS retail. But any kind 
of franchise chains, professional offices, such as any kind of medical, or 
legal that have to deal with insurance or legal requirements, or any kind 
of volume business that is tied to material suppliers, are going to be 
using proprietary software.


One interesting thing... I was in the administration office of my local 
Costco yesterday, and I noticed they were using IE5.5. I am not surprised 
they are using IE, but 5.5 was a surprise.  



Re: [H] Using a webcam for security

2006-10-11 Thread Gary VanderMolen
 You'd have a hard time at night. Even the IR equipped cameras are pretty 
 weak at a distance.


Motion sensor lights would take care of that.

Gary VanderMolen



RE: [H] dumb newb linux --mshome NOT

2006-10-11 Thread RLS
Don't know if this is the same thing:
Went to network-- hosts and added the tcp/ip addresses for the network file
server and 2 workstations. Also created accounts on those machines for the
linux user and still nada...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Ruset
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 2:02 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] dumb newb linux --mshome NOT

Edit /etc/samba/smb.conf

RLS wrote:
 Well, got most of everything working, internet,etc,etc.
 
 But for whatever reason when I search WindowsNetwork, I show 'MSHOME' AND
 'WORKGROUP'  but... can't get beyond that. 
 
 
 What have I missed.
 
 



RE: [SPAM SUSPECT] [H] Using a webcam for security

2006-10-11 Thread Bobby Heid
Don't know if this will help, but Microsoft has a powertool called WebCam
Timershot which may be of interest.  I don't know if it only works on XP.

Look at the bottom of this page:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx

Bobby

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 1:49 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [SPAM SUSPECT] [H] Using a webcam for security
Importance: Low


I have a customer who works for a Salvation Army Centre who wants to 
setup an old PC with a webcam and record the front of their building 
where they are having a problem with vandalism.  He wants to record 
the video (or stills taken every second or two) to the hard drive but 
only when there's motion outside.  He also wants to be able to login 
over the net and see what the webcam is recording currently at any 
time.  Anyone ever set anything like this up and have suggestions?

T



Re: [H] Using a webcam for security

2006-10-11 Thread Ben Ruset

Very true!

Gary VanderMolen wrote:
You'd have a hard time at night. Even the IR equipped cameras are pretty 
weak at a distance.



Motion sensor lights would take care of that.

Gary VanderMolen




Re: [H] dumb newb linux questions

2006-10-11 Thread Rick Glazier

How about QuickBooks?
That is not Linux...  (But some Macs...)

   Rick Glazier

From: Thane Sherrington 
clipped   As for proprietary 
business software, we don't see a lot of that around here 
anymore.  Most people are using specialized spreadsheets and that's about it.




Re: [H] Using a webcam for security

2006-10-11 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 03:02 PM 11/10/2006, Ben Ruset wrote:
You'd have a hard time at night. Even the IR equipped cameras are 
pretty weak at a distance.


The area in front of the door is brightly lit, apparently.  The 
problem they are having is people are dropping off stuff for the 
centre at night and other people are coming along and trashing the 
items so they are left with the cost of taking them to the dump.


T 



Re: [H] dumb newb linux questions

2006-10-11 Thread Harry McGregor
Rick Glazier wrote:
 How about QuickBooks?
 That is not Linux...  (But some Macs...)

It's not free, but Crossover Linux and Crossover Mac (Intel), should
support Quickbooks, but you would want to try it first.

http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/

http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxoffice/

  Harry

Rick Glazier

 From: Thane Sherrington
 clipped   As for proprietary business software, we don't see a lot of
 that around here anymore.  Most people are using specialized
 spreadsheets and that's about it.




Re: [H] Using a webcam for security

2006-10-11 Thread j maccraw
As would pure-IR floodlights. You don't see 'em on
come on but bright as 
day on a camera. Could even leave them on all night 
rely on cam 
software's motion detection to start recoding.

I had a few IP/Ethernet DLinks that were OK. A CMOS
based DCS900 which 
need a host PC to doing motion sensing  recording.
The other a CCD 
based (32xx something) that was intended as a video
conferencing cam so 
it has on-board motion sensing, 2-way audio,  FTP
upload capability.

Gary VanderMolen wrote:
 You'd have a hard time at night. Even the IR
equipped cameras are pretty 
 weak at a distance.
 
 
 Motion sensor lights would take care of that.
 
 Gary VanderMolen
 
 
 

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Re: [H] Using a webcam for security

2006-10-11 Thread Ben Ruset

Anybody have any suggestions for one that could be mounted outside?

j maccraw wrote:

As would pure-IR floodlights. You don't see 'em on
come on but bright as 
day on a camera. Could even leave them on all night 
rely on cam 
software's motion detection to start recoding.


I had a few IP/Ethernet DLinks that were OK. A CMOS
based DCS900 which 
need a host PC to doing motion sensing  recording.
The other a CCD 
based (32xx something) that was intended as a video
conferencing cam so 
it has on-board motion sensing, 2-way audio,  FTP

upload capability.

Gary VanderMolen wrote:

You'd have a hard time at night. Even the IR
equipped cameras are pretty 

weak at a distance.


Motion sensor lights would take care of that.

Gary VanderMolen





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Re: [H] Using a webcam for security

2006-10-11 Thread Scott Sipe
I have three DLink models in operation--the newer ones are a lot  
better than the old ones, and enclosures are sold fr outside usage-- 
some with heater, fan, etc for extreme environment.


I have two DCS-2000's (old) and one newer DCS-3220.

They can all be viewed remotely (web server onboard) in IE with  
ActiveX, and they can also be setup to take snapshots on motion  
detect that are then FTPed or emailed somewhere. (DCS-900's too--low  
quality pics though).


If you want recording, recording-on-motion, etc, you need a PC  
running their software, as mentioned below.


They can also be hooked into alarm systems--(automatically start  
recording when a motion sensor, sound sensor, alarm whatever is  
tripped).


Scott


On Oct 11, 2006, at 5:12 PM, Ben Ruset wrote:


Anybody have any suggestions for one that could be mounted outside?

j maccraw wrote:

As would pure-IR floodlights. You don't see 'em on
come on but bright as day on a camera. Could even leave them on  
all night 

rely on cam software's motion detection to start recoding.
I had a few IP/Ethernet DLinks that were OK. A CMOS
based DCS900 which need a host PC to doing motion sensing   
recording.

The other a CCD based (32xx something) that was intended as a video
conferencing cam so it has on-board motion sensing, 2-way audio,   
FTP

upload capability.
Gary VanderMolen wrote:

You'd have a hard time at night. Even the IR

equipped cameras are pretty

weak at a distance.


Motion sensor lights would take care of that.

Gary VanderMolen




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