Re: [H] Windows 8 | Software Hardware
On 3/17/2013 8:27 PM, Greg Sevart wrote: I was pretty sour on W8 until finding StartIsBack (there are others, but they had quirks that bugged me). The new task manager and file copy dialog are very nice. That, coupled with SMB 3.0, is probably enough to get me to move my primary-use systems to it over the coming month or so. + 1 :) I don't even notice it is Win8 other than the copy dialog/task manager/nice TRIM support vs defrag.
[H] List info / Jim Edwards
Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated.
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
I haven't heard from Jim in ages :( Julian On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Bryan Seiz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated.
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
On 3/18/2013 4:49 PM, Julian Zottl wrote: I haven't heard from Jim in ages :( Julian I found his phone # which jives with his address that I used to know, maybe I'll give him a ring.
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated.
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
If that does not work, email me. I have old phone and address for Jim that did work. Duncan On 03/18/2013 17:49, Bryan Seiz wrote: On 3/18/2013 4:49 PM, Julian Zottl wrote: I haven't heard from Jim in ages :( Julian I found his phone # which jives with his address that I used to know, maybe I'll give him a ring.
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated.
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. __ Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a groupJeff I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. __ Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
Same here. Mostly lurking but still read the list mail ;) lopaka From: DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Mon, March 18, 2013 4:01:18 PM Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Thanks for your service! Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a groupJeff I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. __ Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
I'm good for chipping in too. --- Brian Weeden Secure World Foundation +1 202 683-8534 On Mar 18, 2013, at 19:04, Robert Martin Jr. lopaka_...@yahoo.com wrote: Same here. Mostly lurking but still read the list mail ;) lopaka From: DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Mon, March 18, 2013 4:01:18 PM Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Thanks for your service! Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a groupJeff I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. __ Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
At 08:01 PM 18/03/2013, DSinc wrote: Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Waitasec! I can block you?!? How come nobody mentioned that before? :) T
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a credit to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the group..Jeff Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Thanks for your service! Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a groupJeff I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. __ Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on the list consider you a new member =) On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net wrote: That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a credit to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the group..Jeff Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Thanks for your service! Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a groupJeff I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. __ Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
That makes me still in diapers, Chris. I joined early in the last decade...:)..Jeff You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on the list consider you a new member =) On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net wrote: That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a credit to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the group..Jeff Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Thanks for your service! Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a groupJeff I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. __ Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
Jeff, Even as a 'lurker' you keep this list alive. As memory serves, you have dropped enough thoughts, feelings, and questions over the years to be gold! Yes. I do so know there are now many who only 'view' the digests. Fine. I suspect many are still out there. Heck! Many may have killed their 'digests.' I just do not worry about this... any more... Best, Duncan On 03/18/2013 19:08, Jeff Lane wrote: That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a credit to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the group..Jeff Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Thanks for your service! Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a groupJeff I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. __ Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
Chris, And your point is ? Duncan On 03/18/2013 19:10, Christopher Fisk wrote: You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on the list consider you a new member =) On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net wrote: That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a credit to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the group..Jeff Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Thanks for your service! Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a groupJeff I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. __ Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
I could PayPal a little something as well :) I don't contribute much but I do enjoy lurking around. Veech -Original Message- From: Brian Weeden Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 4:05 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Cc: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards I'm good for chipping in too. --- Brian Weeden Secure World Foundation +1 202 683-8534 On Mar 18, 2013, at 19:04, Robert Martin Jr. lopaka_...@yahoo.com wrote: Same here. Mostly lurking but still read the list mail ;) lopaka From: DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Mon, March 18, 2013 4:01:18 PM Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Thanks for your service! Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a groupJeff I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. __ Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
I was just reflecting on the list is all. There are a few online communities I was lucky enough to get in on in the early days. Heck, I have a 5 digit slashdot id. =) On Mar 18, 2013 7:21 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Chris, And your point is ? Duncan On 03/18/2013 19:10, Christopher Fisk wrote: You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on the list consider you a new member =) On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net wrote: That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a credit to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the group.**.Jeff Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Thanks for your service! Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a group.**...Jeff I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. __** Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
Looks like I joined in June of 1998 myself... -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Fisk Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:10 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on the list consider you a new member =) On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net wrote: That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a credit to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the group..Jeff Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Thanks for your service! Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a groupJeff I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. __ Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
I recall there was list on overclocking that I joined initially. Maybe run by Tom of Tom's Hardware? T
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
On 3/18/2013 7:31 PM, Thane Sherrington wrote: I recall there was list on overclocking that I joined initially. Maybe run by Tom of Tom's Hardware? I think that is right...I joined around the P200/233MMX days, I remember going to visit hayes anthony w/ Jim in DC haha!
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
I went to one lan session thrown by Jim, but no clue when that was. On Mar 18, 2013 7:36 PM, Bryan Seiz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote: On 3/18/2013 7:31 PM, Thane Sherrington wrote: I recall there was list on overclocking that I joined initially. Maybe run by Tom of Tom's Hardware? I think that is right...I joined around the P200/233MMX days, I remember going to visit hayes anthony w/ Jim in DC haha!
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
Yes. True. The Hardware Group started shortly after thatfrom my memory. And, at the time, we (new list) focused on overclocking..initially... :) Duncan On 03/18/2013 19:31, Thane Sherrington wrote: I recall there was list on overclocking that I joined initially. Maybe run by Tom of Tom's Hardware? T
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
On 3/18/2013 7:42 PM, DSinc wrote: Yes. True. The Hardware Group started shortly after thatfrom my memory. And, at the time, we (new list) focused on overclocking..initially... :) Duncan Speaking of the mailing list, Mailman 3.0 should be out soon :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX3DRdFKW_E
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
Don't recall exactly when I joined, but it was in the mid to late 1990s. I remember the get together in Phx, that Kevin Lam decided to fly in for from .au -Harry On 3/18/13 4:36 PM, Bryan Seiz wrote: On 3/18/2013 7:31 PM, Thane Sherrington wrote: I recall there was list on overclocking that I joined initially. Maybe run by Tom of Tom's Hardware? I think that is right...I joined around the P200/233MMX days, I remember going to visit hayes anthony w/ Jim in DC haha!
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
yes it is, i lurk more than ever now. i remember the early days where hardwaregroup.org resided on a tower PC in my dorm room, briefly as school admins gave me a stern talking to and warning letter about hosting external sites. that letter is still somewhere in one of my books in storage. jim graciously picked up the slack and has been maintaining the list ever since; died down for a little bit but he resurrected it. chris reeves still always around, i remember him being a chris wong due to losing a bet to his wife. other names like glasswolf no longer visible here. bryan seitz was a very opinionated younger man in his college days. harry macgregor is/was a striking astute kid when he first joined too. james boswell liked to rile up the conversations every now and again. and for those that dont know, anand (yes, the anandtech.com) was briefly on the list in the early days, he was probably no older than a teen then. -alex / flush On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Christopher Fisk christopher.f...@thefisks.org wrote: You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on the list consider you a new member =) On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net wrote: That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a credit to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the group..Jeff Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Thanks for your service! Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a groupJeff I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. __ Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
Hmyour thoughts are very nice, Duncan, but you have to be thinking of someone else that know is knowledgeable, certainly not deserved here.Jeff:) Jeff, Even as a 'lurker' you keep this list alive. As memory serves, you have dropped enough thoughts, feelings, and questions over the years to be gold! Yes. I do so know there are now many who only 'view' the digests. Fine. I suspect many are still out there. Heck! Many may have killed their 'digests.' I just do not worry about this... any more... Best, Duncan On 03/18/2013 19:08, Jeff Lane wrote: That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a credit to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the group..Jeff Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Thanks for your service! Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a groupJeff I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. __ Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
I know I missed the really early days, but I thought I had joined about '95. I don't have any emails going back that far. I remember being on the list when the first MMX processors were released. As luck would have it, the P166MMX (I think!) was the first chip that Intel multiplier-locked and I was one of the first to get a locked version, dang! On 3/18/2013 7:29 PM, Greg Sevart wrote: Looks like I joined in June of 1998 myself... -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Fisk Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:10 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on the list consider you a new member =) On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net wrote: That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a credit to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the group..Jeff Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Thanks for your service! Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a groupJeff I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. __ Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
Face it, computing has changed a lot since those days. We've gone from scouring Computer Shopper for the best deals on hardware and sharing tips on overclocking so we can squeeze out the maximum performance to computers being a commodity where speed and power is effectively far outstripping the applications. The days where you could effectively double your horsepower by overclocking a Celeron are way past. --- Brian Weeden On Mar 18, 2013, at 20:35, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com wrote: I know I missed the really early days, but I thought I had joined about '95. I don't have any emails going back that far. I remember being on the list when the first MMX processors were released. As luck would have it, the P166MMX (I think!) was the first chip that Intel multiplier-locked and I was one of the first to get a locked version, dang! On 3/18/2013 7:29 PM, Greg Sevart wrote: Looks like I joined in June of 1998 myself... -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Fisk Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:10 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on the list consider you a new member =) On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net wrote: That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a credit to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the group..Jeff Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Thanks for your service! Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a groupJeff I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. __ Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
SSDs were/are the about the last meaningful upgrade. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:54 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Cc: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards Face it, computing has changed a lot since those days. We've gone from scouring Computer Shopper for the best deals on hardware and sharing tips on overclocking so we can squeeze out the maximum performance to computers being a commodity where speed and power is effectively far outstripping the applications. The days where you could effectively double your horsepower by overclocking a Celeron are way past. --- Brian Weeden
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
I definitely agree. I used to upgrade every year, now my newest rig is 2 generations behind. I don't game as much, but it seems to me that the top games these days are hard work. Games like Doom Quake used to be fun. On 3/18/2013 8:54 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: Face it, computing has changed a lot since those days. We've gone from scouring Computer Shopper for the best deals on hardware and sharing tips on overclocking so we can squeeze out the maximum performance to computers being a commodity where speed and power is effectively far outstripping the applications. The days where you could effectively double your horsepower by overclocking a Celeron are way past. --- Brian Weeden On Mar 18, 2013, at 20:35, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com wrote: I know I missed the really early days, but I thought I had joined about '95. I don't have any emails going back that far. I remember being on the list when the first MMX processors were released. As luck would have it, the P166MMX (I think!) was the first chip that Intel multiplier-locked and I was one of the first to get a locked version, dang! On 3/18/2013 7:29 PM, Greg Sevart wrote: Looks like I joined in June of 1998 myself... -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Fisk Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:10 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on the list consider you a new member =) On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net wrote: That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a credit to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the group..Jeff Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Thanks for your service! Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a groupJeff I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. __ Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
The best gaming experience I've had in the last few years was when I discovered Minecraft a few days ago, which is far from demanding as far as hardware is concerned. Work and sleep is another matter entirely :) --- Brian Weeden On Mar 18, 2013, at 21:17, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com wrote: I definitely agree. I used to upgrade every year, now my newest rig is 2 generations behind. I don't game as much, but it seems to me that the top games these days are hard work. Games like Doom Quake used to be fun. On 3/18/2013 8:54 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: Face it, computing has changed a lot since those days. We've gone from scouring Computer Shopper for the best deals on hardware and sharing tips on overclocking so we can squeeze out the maximum performance to computers being a commodity where speed and power is effectively far outstripping the applications. The days where you could effectively double your horsepower by overclocking a Celeron are way past. --- Brian Weeden On Mar 18, 2013, at 20:35, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com wrote: I know I missed the really early days, but I thought I had joined about '95. I don't have any emails going back that far. I remember being on the list when the first MMX processors were released. As luck would have it, the P166MMX (I think!) was the first chip that Intel multiplier-locked and I was one of the first to get a locked version, dang! On 3/18/2013 7:29 PM, Greg Sevart wrote: Looks like I joined in June of 1998 myself... -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Fisk Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:10 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on the list consider you a new member =) On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net wrote: That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a credit to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the group..Jeff Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Thanks for your service! Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a groupJeff I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. __ Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
lol, I've been a member since it was the tom's overclocking list, lol. I think I joined somewhere around 1995/6. Sabre (Julian) Julian On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:17 PM, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.comwrote: I definitely agree. I used to upgrade every year, now my newest rig is 2 generations behind. I don't game as much, but it seems to me that the top games these days are hard work. Games like Doom Quake used to be fun. On 3/18/2013 8:54 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: Face it, computing has changed a lot since those days. We've gone from scouring Computer Shopper for the best deals on hardware and sharing tips on overclocking so we can squeeze out the maximum performance to computers being a commodity where speed and power is effectively far outstripping the applications. The days where you could effectively double your horsepower by overclocking a Celeron are way past. --- Brian Weeden On Mar 18, 2013, at 20:35, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com wrote: I know I missed the really early days, but I thought I had joined about '95. I don't have any emails going back that far. I remember being on the list when the first MMX processors were released. As luck would have it, the P166MMX (I think!) was the first chip that Intel multiplier-locked and I was one of the first to get a locked version, dang! On 3/18/2013 7:29 PM, Greg Sevart wrote: Looks like I joined in June of 1998 myself... -Original Message- From: hardware-bounces@lists.**hardwaregroup.comhardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-bounces@**lists.hardwaregroup.comhardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Fisk Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:10 PM To: hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**comhardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on the list consider you a new member =) On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net wrote: That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a credit to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the group.**.Jeff Hey Jeff, A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to sharewith those that respond. Thanks for your service! Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote: I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a group.**...Jeff I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to contribute now. Mike At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote: Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list! Still willing to fund this List/enterprise. Duncan On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote: In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time. Willing to donate. fp At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with: Collective, Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ? Does anyone know who pays for and runs the list ? The domain is set to expire at the end of this year, any info would be appreciated. __** Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
