Re: [H] iOS 7

2013-09-19 Thread Jason Chue
On 20 Sep 2013 08:26, "Zulfiqar Naushad"  wrote:
>
> Indian the real winner is the consumer and that's what matters the most.
>
> Sent from my iPhone

Smart predictive technology at it's best.


Re: [H] iOS 7

2013-09-19 Thread Bryan Seitz
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 03:25:52AM +0300, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote:
> So, I updated my phone to iOS 7 and it looks pretty decent so far.
> 
It looks like *ASS* but the functionality and performance are definitely better.

> It's funny how Apple has taken the best bits from different operating
> systems but somehow have managed to improve them and give them a name.
> And that's what I don't like about Apple it makes people think that
> Apple has invented this feature while that is not necessarily the
> case.

What's wrong with that, the consumer still benefits.

> Either way it really doesn't matter in the end I think that what Apple
> is doing pushes the mobile industry forward regardless of how they may
> copy other people.

The iPhone started it all, the 'screw the carrier' restricted bullsh*t
here's a phone that actually does things!  Now we have ios/android in
the lead and blackberry on the way out which is great from where I stand.

> Indian the real winner is the consumer and that's what matters the most.

^

-- 
 
Bryan G. Seitz


Re: [H] iOS 7

2013-09-19 Thread Zulfiqar Naushad
What annoys me is when Apple fanboys see something and say apple
invented it. Good example is iCloud.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 20, 2013, at 4:10 AM, "Anthony Q. Martin"  wrote:
>
> Why is it a problem to give them credit for making it all work?
>
> Sent from my mobile device.
>
>> On Sep 19, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Zulfiqar Naushad  wrote:
>>
>> So, I updated my phone to iOS 7 and it looks pretty decent so far.
>>
>> The new layout is a bit jarring but I'm sure I will get used to it.
>>
>> It's funny how Apple has taken the best bits from different operating
>> systems but somehow have managed to improve them and give them a name.
>> And that's what I don't like about Apple it makes people think that
>> Apple has invented this feature while that is not necessarily the
>> case.
>>
>> Either way it really doesn't matter in the end I think that what Apple
>> is doing pushes the mobile industry forward regardless of how they may
>> copy other people.
>>
>> Indian the real winner is the consumer and that's what matters the most.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone


Re: [H] iOS 7

2013-09-19 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Why is it a problem to give them credit for making it all work?

Sent from my mobile device.

> On Sep 19, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Zulfiqar Naushad  wrote:
> 
> So, I updated my phone to iOS 7 and it looks pretty decent so far.
> 
> The new layout is a bit jarring but I'm sure I will get used to it.
> 
> It's funny how Apple has taken the best bits from different operating
> systems but somehow have managed to improve them and give them a name.
> And that's what I don't like about Apple it makes people think that
> Apple has invented this feature while that is not necessarily the
> case.
> 
> Either way it really doesn't matter in the end I think that what Apple
> is doing pushes the mobile industry forward regardless of how they may
> copy other people.
> 
> Indian the real winner is the consumer and that's what matters the most.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone


[H] iOS 7

2013-09-19 Thread Zulfiqar Naushad
So, I updated my phone to iOS 7 and it looks pretty decent so far.

The new layout is a bit jarring but I'm sure I will get used to it.

It's funny how Apple has taken the best bits from different operating
systems but somehow have managed to improve them and give them a name.
And that's what I don't like about Apple it makes people think that
Apple has invented this feature while that is not necessarily the
case.

Either way it really doesn't matter in the end I think that what Apple
is doing pushes the mobile industry forward regardless of how they may
copy other people.

Indian the real winner is the consumer and that's what matters the most.

Sent from my iPhone


Re: [H] Again MSHOME vs. WORKGROUP?

2013-09-19 Thread DSinc

No harm, no foul, Steve. In XP I do know where it is.
I will get to W7 in due time. I'm still a bit hesitant ATM.
Maybe just jitters, but,  :)
Duncan

On 09/19/2013 19:18, Steve Tomporowski wrote:

Sorry, I thought you had upgraded.

In XP:  Control Panel - System - Computer Name and click on the 
'change' button.


I used to change the Workgroup name all the time, but every install, 
Windows defaults, so I stopped.


Steve
On 9/19/2013 6:54 PM, DSinc wrote:

Steve,
I will save this reply for when I do switch to Win7pro. !am still on 
the fence (XP); and, my family is waiting for me to do the deed!
My siblings have proclaimed me their "Wizard." I've kept them happy 
from Win98SE, thru Win2K, and WinXP. As I recall the consensus here, 
"Vista is not ever good fish wrap. Wait for the next offering!"

Am I tired? YES!
But, somebody always gets stuck with this duty I fear. Thank you to 
you, and, the Collective You have no idea how many issues 
you have fixed since 2000 that had zero to do with my machines! Sorry.

Duncan

On 09/19/2013 18:27, Steve Tomporowski wrote:

Duncan,

The bottom line is that you can change the workgroup name, but you 
have to do it on each and every computer.  In Win7, it's under 
Control Panel - System and Security - System - Advanced System 
Settings - Computer Name and to rename the computer. At the bottom 
it will allow you to change the workgroup.


Steve

On 9/19/2013 6:20 PM, Tim Lider wrote:
Usually you set that up yourself when installing Windows or other 
OS's.  My
router domain at home is Beave.net, but when I install Windows it 
defaults to

workgroup and the domain/workgroup.

At work the domain is ADV-DATA.local and it is setup that way on 
the router.
Although, I have it setup if anyone uses the DHCP to access the 
network they
will not be able to access the domain services, this is due to the 
fact the
Router has one DNS server and the Domain uses others to access the 
active

directory and network itself.

Looks to see if their DNS is setup manually or it is automatic and 
check their
subnet as well.  Those 2 would make it difficult to access net 
appliances and

shares across the network.

Regards,

On September 19, 2013 at 2:56 PM DSinc  wrote:
All of my Brother's LAN clients appear to be: WORKGROUP=MSHOME. Is 
this

an OS default?
I do know how to change this value. And, all of my Brother's 
clients are

set to get their network specs
automatically - the MS Default (like from his router). Fine.

When he brings his laptop to my home once a year, he can somehow 
get to

the internet via my router, but he
can not get to any of my other LAN services/PC's//appliances. Odd. I
used to admin his laptop 'into' my LAN, but this
never really fixed everything. Confusing?

Is WORKGROUP= ? a router DHCP assigned value?
I have recently turned on my router's DHCP server, and the logic 
seems

to work fine.

My home LAN and all of my PC clients us WORKGROUP=WORKGROUP (probably
from back in Win2K times).
All of my PC's and appliances work just fine.

If this makes little sense, I apologize. I just had to ask.
Duncan


Tim Lider
Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
http://www.adv-data.com
timli...@adv-data.com












Re: [H] Again MSHOME vs. WORKGROUP?

2013-09-19 Thread Steve Tomporowski

Sorry, I thought you had upgraded.

In XP:  Control Panel - System - Computer Name and click on the 'change' 
button.


I used to change the Workgroup name all the time, but every install, 
Windows defaults, so I stopped.


Steve
On 9/19/2013 6:54 PM, DSinc wrote:

Steve,
I will save this reply for when I do switch to Win7pro. !am still on 
the fence (XP); and, my family is waiting for me to do the deed!
My siblings have proclaimed me their "Wizard." I've kept them happy 
from Win98SE, thru Win2K, and WinXP. As I recall the consensus here, 
"Vista is not ever good fish wrap. Wait for the next offering!"

Am I tired? YES!
But, somebody always gets stuck with this duty I fear. Thank you to 
you, and, the Collective You have no idea how many issues 
you have fixed since 2000 that had zero to do with my machines! Sorry.

Duncan

On 09/19/2013 18:27, Steve Tomporowski wrote:

Duncan,

The bottom line is that you can change the workgroup name, but you 
have to do it on each and every computer.  In Win7, it's under 
Control Panel - System and Security - System - Advanced System 
Settings - Computer Name and to rename the computer.  At the bottom 
it will allow you to change the workgroup.


Steve

On 9/19/2013 6:20 PM, Tim Lider wrote:
Usually you set that up yourself when installing Windows or other 
OS's.  My
router domain at home is Beave.net, but when I install Windows it 
defaults to

workgroup and the domain/workgroup.

At work the domain is ADV-DATA.local and it is setup that way on the 
router.
Although, I have it setup if anyone uses the DHCP to access the 
network they
will not be able to access the domain services, this is due to the 
fact the
Router has one DNS server and the Domain uses others to access the 
active

directory and network itself.

Looks to see if their DNS is setup manually or it is automatic and 
check their
subnet as well.  Those 2 would make it difficult to access net 
appliances and

shares across the network.

Regards,

On September 19, 2013 at 2:56 PM DSinc  wrote:
All of my Brother's LAN clients appear to be: WORKGROUP=MSHOME. Is 
this

an OS default?
I do know how to change this value. And, all of my Brother's 
clients are

set to get their network specs
automatically - the MS Default (like from his router). Fine.

When he brings his laptop to my home once a year, he can somehow 
get to

the internet via my router, but he
can not get to any of my other LAN services/PC's//appliances. Odd. I
used to admin his laptop 'into' my LAN, but this
never really fixed everything. Confusing?

Is WORKGROUP= ? a router DHCP assigned value?
I have recently turned on my router's DHCP server, and the logic seems
to work fine.

My home LAN and all of my PC clients us WORKGROUP=WORKGROUP (probably
from back in Win2K times).
All of my PC's and appliances work just fine.

If this makes little sense, I apologize. I just had to ask.
Duncan


Tim Lider
Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
http://www.adv-data.com
timli...@adv-data.com









Re: [H] Again MSHOME vs. WORKGROUP?

2013-09-19 Thread DSinc

Steve,
I will save this reply for when I do switch to Win7pro. !am still on the 
fence (XP); and, my family is waiting for me to do the deed!
My siblings have proclaimed me their "Wizard." I've kept them happy from 
Win98SE, thru Win2K, and WinXP. As I recall the consensus here, "Vista 
is not ever good fish wrap. Wait for the next offering!"

Am I tired? YES!
But, somebody always gets stuck with this duty I fear. Thank you to you, 
and, the Collective You have no idea how many issues you 
have fixed since 2000 that had zero to do with my machines! Sorry.

Duncan

On 09/19/2013 18:27, Steve Tomporowski wrote:

Duncan,

The bottom line is that you can change the workgroup name, but you 
have to do it on each and every computer.  In Win7, it's under Control 
Panel - System and Security - System - Advanced System Settings - 
Computer Name and to rename the computer.  At the bottom it will allow 
you to change the workgroup.


Steve

On 9/19/2013 6:20 PM, Tim Lider wrote:
Usually you set that up yourself when installing Windows or other 
OS's.  My
router domain at home is Beave.net, but when I install Windows it 
defaults to

workgroup and the domain/workgroup.

At work the domain is ADV-DATA.local and it is setup that way on the 
router.
Although, I have it setup if anyone uses the DHCP to access the 
network they
will not be able to access the domain services, this is due to the 
fact the
Router has one DNS server and the Domain uses others to access the 
active

directory and network itself.

Looks to see if their DNS is setup manually or it is automatic and 
check their
subnet as well.  Those 2 would make it difficult to access net 
appliances and

shares across the network.

Regards,

On September 19, 2013 at 2:56 PM DSinc  wrote:

All of my Brother's LAN clients appear to be: WORKGROUP=MSHOME. Is this
an OS default?
I do know how to change this value. And, all of my Brother's clients 
are

set to get their network specs
automatically - the MS Default (like from his router). Fine.

When he brings his laptop to my home once a year, he can somehow get to
the internet via my router, but he
can not get to any of my other LAN services/PC's//appliances. Odd. I
used to admin his laptop 'into' my LAN, but this
never really fixed everything. Confusing?

Is WORKGROUP= ? a router DHCP assigned value?
I have recently turned on my router's DHCP server, and the logic seems
to work fine.

My home LAN and all of my PC clients us WORKGROUP=WORKGROUP (probably
from back in Win2K times).
All of my PC's and appliances work just fine.

If this makes little sense, I apologize. I just had to ask.
Duncan


Tim Lider
Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
http://www.adv-data.com
timli...@adv-data.com







Re: [H] Firefox problem

2013-09-19 Thread DSinc
Well, your 'short of' may fix it. How deep do you cull your cookies 
and/of history?

Duncan

On 09/19/2013 16:47, Winterlight wrote:
My primary browser is Opera but I also am using the latest updated 
version of Firefox. A month ago I was looking for a TV show I missed 
and ran a Google search. A torrent came up, and I clicked on it. The 
torrent never downloaded but ever since, every time I load Firefox the 
torrent at 0 bytes appears on my desktop which, for Firefox, is the 
download location. It doesn't appear in download history, or anywhere 
that I can find but there it is. How do I stop this behavior short of 
uninstalling Firefox. Thanks







Re: [H] 3TB

2013-09-19 Thread DSinc
This I truly understand. The ReadyNAS community is really active about, 
"Can I replace my EMC HD's with bigger SSD's?"
I am watching these topics. And, I am now seeing NAS platforms that do 
now use SSD's. Sheesh!
I have to admit I am getting old. Some of this stuff is way above me. 
But, I do see the push, and, I accept that it will come to pass.

Duncan

On 09/19/2013 17:01, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:

What sold me most on the 5N was the ability to add a mSSD in the accelerator 
bay, to cache data and speed transfers. I have a Crucial m4 128GB mSATA 
Internal Solid State Drive CT128M4SSD3 in mine. Once I added that, the data 
transfers are crazy fast. Plus the drobo is 5 bays not 4 like the readynas NV+.

lopaka



  From: DSinc 
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [H] 3TB
  


Oh! Holy cow! I guess I am still learning how to get my NAS to link up
on my LAN.
I've never tested, but do not think I see this performance. But then,
since completing my
10base1000 LAN, I have never really tested. Actually, I know not how. I
just move/copy stuff
from my desktop to my NAS, and it goes pretty dang quick! The NAS-to-NAS
backups at Zero-dark-30
take place at theNAS' own chosen/agreed upon speed. This I never quibble
about. Clearly I might not be
on top of this, but it all works so well for me I just don't worry about
it at all. I own/run these appliances that
are so much smarter than me, but still speak to me in their 'plain
speak' that I treat them as 'family.' Except for
Intel nic cards, my NAS appliances are the most reliable network
devicesI have ever owned.
I know that they use a Debian-based Linux OS so I do not dig into their
guts. No need to.
They just plain workand make digital life a bit better.
NAS-ON everyone!
Duncan

On 09/19/2013 16:07, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:

Drobo5N is a completely different beast compared to earlier units. I can 
transfer 20GB in under a couple minutes over network. ReadyNAS NV+ v1 is about 
4-5x that and the v2 6-7x that

lopaka



From: Zulfiqar Naushad 
To: "hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com" 
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [H] 3TB
   


The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match
different sizes and it works just fine.

Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance.
Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today.

I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size
drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my
synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything
just works and works well.

If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand.
Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface
and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an
antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up
with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I
come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume.

What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the
bandwidth to 2Gbps.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc  wrote:


Hi Zool,
Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, and,
others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more..
I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my
3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens.
For certain, Synology will be where I move to!  All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 and 
have
never dropped a beat in 3 years.  I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, any 
data loss
I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS boxes 
are the PFM
part of my home LAN.
Best,
Duncan

On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote:

Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went
with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat.
On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, "DSinc"  wrote:


Lopaka,
Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me.
How do you like your NV+ v2?
I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I
have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+.
Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may
try a cloud backup location. For now, I
am very happy with my NAS's.
Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via
Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there.
Duncan

On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:


I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5
mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within
days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty.


lopaka



__**__
  From: Anthony Q. Martin 
To: "hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com"
>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM
Subject

Re: [H] 3TB

2013-09-19 Thread DSinc
Heck, your research is way behind. SSD's in NAS is a fact to my meager 
reads.
True, any of the users are Linux-geeks that have 'dicked' with their 
NAS's OS (f/w), but
still. I read it to mean that this is active ATM, if only on a limited 
scale. Way above my pay

grade :) LOL!
Duncan

On 09/19/2013 17:02, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote:

That's sexy. Must read more.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 20, 2013, at 12:01 AM, "Robert Martin Jr."  wrote:


What sold me most on the 5N was the ability to add a mSSD in the accelerator 
bay, to cache data and speed transfers. I have a Crucial m4 128GB mSATA 
Internal Solid State Drive CT128M4SSD3 in mine. Once I added that, the data 
transfers are crazy fast. Plus the drobo is 5 bays not 4 like the readynas NV+.

lopaka



From: DSinc 
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [H] 3TB


Oh! Holy cow! I guess I am still learning how to get my NAS to link up
on my LAN.
I've never tested, but do not think I see this performance. But then,
since completing my
10base1000 LAN, I have never really tested. Actually, I know not how. I
just move/copy stuff
from my desktop to my NAS, and it goes pretty dang quick! The NAS-to-NAS
backups at Zero-dark-30
take place at theNAS' own chosen/agreed upon speed. This I never quibble
about. Clearly I might not be
on top of this, but it all works so well for me I just don't worry about
it at all. I own/run these appliances that
are so much smarter than me, but still speak to me in their 'plain
speak' that I treat them as 'family.' Except for
Intel nic cards, my NAS appliances are the most reliable network
devicesI have ever owned.
I know that they use a Debian-based Linux OS so I do not dig into their
guts. No need to.
They just plain workand make digital life a bit better.
NAS-ON everyone!
Duncan

On 09/19/2013 16:07, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:

Drobo5N is a completely different beast compared to earlier units. I can 
transfer 20GB in under a couple minutes over network. ReadyNAS NV+ v1 is about 
4-5x that and the v2 6-7x that

lopaka



From: Zulfiqar Naushad 
To: "hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com" 
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [H] 3TB


The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match
different sizes and it works just fine.

Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance.
Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today.

I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size
drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my
synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything
just works and works well.

If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand.
Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface
and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an
antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up
with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I
come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume.

What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the
bandwidth to 2Gbps.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc  wrote:


Hi Zool,
Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, and,
others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more..
I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my
3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens.
For certain, Synology will be where I move to!  All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 and 
have
never dropped a beat in 3 years.  I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, any 
data loss
I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS boxes 
are the PFM
part of my home LAN.
Best,
Duncan

On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote:

Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went
with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat.
On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, "DSinc"  wrote:


Lopaka,
Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me.
How do you like your NV+ v2?
I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I
have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+.
Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may
try a cloud backup location. For now, I
am very happy with my NAS's.
Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via
Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there.
Duncan

On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:


I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5
mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within
days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty.


lopaka



__**__
  From: Anthony Q. Martin 
To: "hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com"
>
Sent: 

Re: [H] 3TB

2013-09-19 Thread Naushad Zulfiqar
Ssds will take over one day. But not till they come down in price and much
more capacity. The thought of a ssd nas makes me salivate.

Lol.
On Sep 20, 2013 1:02 AM, "DSinc"  wrote:

> This I truly understand. The ReadyNAS community is really active about,
> "Can I replace my EMC HD's with bigger SSD's?"
> I am watching these topics. And, I am now seeing NAS platforms that do now
> use SSD's. Sheesh!
> I have to admit I am getting old. Some of this stuff is way above me. But,
> I do see the push, and, I accept that it will come to pass.
> Duncan
>
> On 09/19/2013 17:01, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:
>
>> What sold me most on the 5N was the ability to add a mSSD in the
>> accelerator bay, to cache data and speed transfers. I have a Crucial m4
>> 128GB mSATA Internal Solid State Drive CT128M4SSD3 in mine. Once I added
>> that, the data transfers are crazy fast. Plus the drobo is 5 bays not 4
>> like the readynas NV+.
>>
>> lopaka
>>
>>
>> __**__
>>   From: DSinc 
>> To: hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com 
>> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [H] 3TB
>>
>> Oh! Holy cow! I guess I am still learning how to get my NAS to link up
>> on my LAN.
>> I've never tested, but do not think I see this performance. But then,
>> since completing my
>> 10base1000 LAN, I have never really tested. Actually, I know not how. I
>> just move/copy stuff
>> from my desktop to my NAS, and it goes pretty dang quick! The NAS-to-NAS
>> backups at Zero-dark-30
>> take place at theNAS' own chosen/agreed upon speed. This I never quibble
>> about. Clearly I might not be
>> on top of this, but it all works so well for me I just don't worry about
>> it at all. I own/run these appliances that
>> are so much smarter than me, but still speak to me in their 'plain
>> speak' that I treat them as 'family.' Except for
>> Intel nic cards, my NAS appliances are the most reliable network
>> devicesI have ever owned.
>> I know that they use a Debian-based Linux OS so I do not dig into their
>> guts. No need to.
>> They just plain workand make digital life a bit better.
>> NAS-ON everyone!
>> Duncan
>>
>> On 09/19/2013 16:07, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:
>>
>>> Drobo5N is a completely different beast compared to earlier units. I can
>>> transfer 20GB in under a couple minutes over network. ReadyNAS NV+ v1 is
>>> about 4-5x that and the v2 6-7x that
>>>
>>> lopaka
>>>
>>>
>>> __**__
>>> From: Zulfiqar Naushad 
>>> To: "hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com"
>>> >
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:46 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [H] 3TB
>>>
>>> The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match
>>> different sizes and it works just fine.
>>>
>>> Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance.
>>> Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today.
>>>
>>> I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size
>>> drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my
>>> synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything
>>> just works and works well.
>>>
>>> If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand.
>>> Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface
>>> and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an
>>> antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up
>>> with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I
>>> come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume.
>>>
>>> What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the
>>> bandwidth to 2Gbps.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc  wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi Zool,
 Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology,
 QNAP, and,
 others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more..
 I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my
 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens.
 For certain, Synology will be where I move to!  All of my ReadyNAS run
 24/7 and have
 never dropped a beat in 3 years.  I still wait for my 1st HD failure!
 And, any data loss
 I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My
 NAS boxes are the PFM
 part of my home LAN.
 Best,
 Duncan

 On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote:

> Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I
> went
> with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat.
> On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, "DSinc"  wrote:
>
>  Lopaka,
>> Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me.
>> How do you like your NV+ v2?
>> I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for
>> that. I
>> have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+.
>> Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS,
>> or, may
>> try a cl

Re: [H] Again MSHOME vs. WORKGROUP?

2013-09-19 Thread DSinc

Tim,
Thanks for the reply. I do so understand your situation(s). I don't have 
that need for separation.
In any case, I think Jaime's reply has me back on track again. Yes, I do 
get the DNS business, but,
ATM I do not have any data for the DNS servers at my Brother's ISP 
(rr.com). I guess I am being

lazy, but I figure he can find this data from his tech support, BrightHouse.
Duncan

On 09/19/2013 18:20, Tim Lider wrote:

Usually you set that up yourself when installing Windows or other OS's.  My
router domain at home is Beave.net, but when I install Windows it defaults to
workgroup and the domain/workgroup.

At work the domain is ADV-DATA.local and it is setup that way on the router.
Although, I have it setup if anyone uses the DHCP to access the network they
will not be able to access the domain services, this is due to the fact the
Router has one DNS server and the Domain uses others to access the active
directory and network itself.

Looks to see if their DNS is setup manually or it is automatic and check their
subnet as well.  Those 2 would make it difficult to access net appliances and
shares across the network.

Regards,

On September 19, 2013 at 2:56 PM DSinc  wrote:

All of my Brother's LAN clients appear to be: WORKGROUP=MSHOME. Is this
an OS default?
I do know how to change this value. And, all of my Brother's clients are
set to get their network specs
automatically - the MS Default (like from his router). Fine.

When he brings his laptop to my home once a year, he can somehow get to
the internet via my router, but he
can not get to any of my other LAN services/PC's//appliances. Odd. I
used to admin his laptop 'into' my LAN, but this
never really fixed everything. Confusing?

Is WORKGROUP= ? a router DHCP assigned value?
I have recently turned on my router's DHCP server, and the logic seems
to work fine.

My home LAN and all of my PC clients us WORKGROUP=WORKGROUP (probably
from back in Win2K times).
All of my PC's and appliances work just fine.

If this makes little sense, I apologize. I just had to ask.
Duncan


Tim Lider
Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
http://www.adv-data.com
timli...@adv-data.com





Re: [H] Again MSHOME vs. WORKGROUP?

2013-09-19 Thread Jamie Furtner
On 2013-09-19 3:56 PM, DSinc wrote:
> All of my Brother's LAN clients appear to be: WORKGROUP=MSHOME. Is
> this an OS default?
> I do know how to change this value. And, all of my Brother's clients
> are set to get their network specs
> automatically - the MS Default (like from his router). Fine.
>
> When he brings his laptop to my home once a year, he can somehow get
> to the internet via my router, but he
> can not get to any of my other LAN services/PC's//appliances. Odd. I
> used to admin his laptop 'into' my LAN, but this
> never really fixed everything. Confusing?
>
> Is WORKGROUP= ? a router DHCP assigned value?
> I have recently turned on my router's DHCP server, and the logic seems
> to work fine.
>
> My home LAN and all of my PC clients us WORKGROUP=WORKGROUP (probably
> from back in Win2K times).
> All of my PC's and appliances work just fine.
>
> If this makes little sense, I apologize. I just had to ask.
> Duncan
>

Workgroup is not something a router sets (at all - it's not a property
of a DHCP scope), instead it's statically set in System properties. What
its intention was to have a collection of computers that are on the same
network and share resources, but not in a corporate domain (Active
Directory). It's an arbitrary name you assign, and on new installs I
believe the default is WORKGROUP, but I've seen MSHOME on some people's
machines - it might be a default in the non-pro edition of Windows.

Workgroups have always been slightly imperfect in my experience - what's
supposed to happen is that machines broadcast to find all the other
machines in the same workgroup and show them in network neighbourhood.
I've occasionally found that some machines don't respond or are never
browsable via network neighbourhood, but you should still be able to
navigate to your other machines using the a syntax like \\MACHINENAME or
\\. Don't forget that newer operating systems may not turn
on sharing by default, and depending on the sharing model (Simple or
not) it still may not work even if you navigate directly to the machines
- everything has to use the same model I think.

Jamie

-- 
Jamie Furtner ja...@furtner.ca



Re: [H] Again MSHOME vs. WORKGROUP?

2013-09-19 Thread Tim Lider
Usually you set that up yourself when installing Windows or other OS's.  My
router domain at home is Beave.net, but when I install Windows it defaults to
workgroup and the domain/workgroup.

At work the domain is ADV-DATA.local and it is setup that way on the router.
Although, I have it setup if anyone uses the DHCP to access the network they
will not be able to access the domain services, this is due to the fact the
Router has one DNS server and the Domain uses others to access the active
directory and network itself.

Looks to see if their DNS is setup manually or it is automatic and check their
subnet as well.  Those 2 would make it difficult to access net appliances and
shares across the network.

Regards,

On September 19, 2013 at 2:56 PM DSinc  wrote:
> All of my Brother's LAN clients appear to be: WORKGROUP=MSHOME. Is this
> an OS default?
> I do know how to change this value. And, all of my Brother's clients are
> set to get their network specs
> automatically - the MS Default (like from his router). Fine.
>
> When he brings his laptop to my home once a year, he can somehow get to
> the internet via my router, but he
> can not get to any of my other LAN services/PC's//appliances. Odd. I
> used to admin his laptop 'into' my LAN, but this
> never really fixed everything. Confusing?
>
> Is WORKGROUP= ? a router DHCP assigned value?
> I have recently turned on my router's DHCP server, and the logic seems
> to work fine.
>
> My home LAN and all of my PC clients us WORKGROUP=WORKGROUP (probably
> from back in Win2K times).
> All of my PC's and appliances work just fine.
>
> If this makes little sense, I apologize. I just had to ask.
> Duncan
>
Tim Lider
Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
http://www.adv-data.com
timli...@adv-data.com


Re: [H] Again MSHOME vs. WORKGROUP?

2013-09-19 Thread DSinc

Jaime,
Thank you for your share. Youhave blown 3years of confusion on my part 
right into the dirt!
Nope, not worrying about machine unique 'shares.' That is a separate 
bucket of snakes.

I got it, and, it makes so much sense to me ATM.
TNX,
Duncan

On 09/19/2013 18:17, Jamie Furtner wrote:

On 2013-09-19 3:56 PM, DSinc wrote:

All of my Brother's LAN clients appear to be: WORKGROUP=MSHOME. Is
this an OS default?
I do know how to change this value. And, all of my Brother's clients
are set to get their network specs
automatically - the MS Default (like from his router). Fine.

When he brings his laptop to my home once a year, he can somehow get
to the internet via my router, but he
can not get to any of my other LAN services/PC's//appliances. Odd. I
used to admin his laptop 'into' my LAN, but this
never really fixed everything. Confusing?

Is WORKGROUP= ? a router DHCP assigned value?
I have recently turned on my router's DHCP server, and the logic seems
to work fine.

My home LAN and all of my PC clients us WORKGROUP=WORKGROUP (probably
from back in Win2K times).
All of my PC's and appliances work just fine.

If this makes little sense, I apologize. I just had to ask.
Duncan


Workgroup is not something a router sets (at all - it's not a property
of a DHCP scope), instead it's statically set in System properties. What
its intention was to have a collection of computers that are on the same
network and share resources, but not in a corporate domain (Active
Directory). It's an arbitrary name you assign, and on new installs I
believe the default is WORKGROUP, but I've seen MSHOME on some people's
machines - it might be a default in the non-pro edition of Windows.

Workgroups have always been slightly imperfect in my experience - what's
supposed to happen is that machines broadcast to find all the other
machines in the same workgroup and show them in network neighbourhood.
I've occasionally found that some machines don't respond or are never
browsable via network neighbourhood, but you should still be able to
navigate to your other machines using the a syntax like \\MACHINENAME or
\\. Don't forget that newer operating systems may not turn
on sharing by default, and depending on the sharing model (Simple or
not) it still may not work even if you navigate directly to the machines
- everything has to use the same model I think.

Jamie





Re: [H] Again MSHOME vs. WORKGROUP?

2013-09-19 Thread Steve Tomporowski

Duncan,

The bottom line is that you can change the workgroup name, but you have 
to do it on each and every computer.  In Win7, it's under Control Panel 
- System and Security - System - Advanced System Settings - Computer 
Name and to rename the computer.  At the bottom it will allow you to 
change the workgroup.


Steve

On 9/19/2013 6:20 PM, Tim Lider wrote:

Usually you set that up yourself when installing Windows or other OS's.  My
router domain at home is Beave.net, but when I install Windows it defaults to
workgroup and the domain/workgroup.

At work the domain is ADV-DATA.local and it is setup that way on the router.
Although, I have it setup if anyone uses the DHCP to access the network they
will not be able to access the domain services, this is due to the fact the
Router has one DNS server and the Domain uses others to access the active
directory and network itself.

Looks to see if their DNS is setup manually or it is automatic and check their
subnet as well.  Those 2 would make it difficult to access net appliances and
shares across the network.

Regards,

On September 19, 2013 at 2:56 PM DSinc  wrote:

All of my Brother's LAN clients appear to be: WORKGROUP=MSHOME. Is this
an OS default?
I do know how to change this value. And, all of my Brother's clients are
set to get their network specs
automatically - the MS Default (like from his router). Fine.

When he brings his laptop to my home once a year, he can somehow get to
the internet via my router, but he
can not get to any of my other LAN services/PC's//appliances. Odd. I
used to admin his laptop 'into' my LAN, but this
never really fixed everything. Confusing?

Is WORKGROUP= ? a router DHCP assigned value?
I have recently turned on my router's DHCP server, and the logic seems
to work fine.

My home LAN and all of my PC clients us WORKGROUP=WORKGROUP (probably
from back in Win2K times).
All of my PC's and appliances work just fine.

If this makes little sense, I apologize. I just had to ask.
Duncan


Tim Lider
Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
http://www.adv-data.com
timli...@adv-data.com




[H] Again MSHOME vs. WORKGROUP?

2013-09-19 Thread DSinc
All of my Brother's LAN clients appear to be: WORKGROUP=MSHOME. Is this 
an OS default?
I do know how to change this value. And, all of my Brother's clients are 
set to get their network specs

automatically - the MS Default (like from his router). Fine.

When he brings his laptop to my home once a year, he can somehow get to 
the internet via my router, but he
can not get to any of my other LAN services/PC's//appliances. Odd. I 
used to admin his laptop 'into' my LAN, but this

never really fixed everything. Confusing?

Is WORKGROUP= ? a router DHCP assigned value?
I have recently turned on my router's DHCP server, and the logic seems 
to work fine.


My home LAN and all of my PC clients us WORKGROUP=WORKGROUP (probably 
from back in Win2K times).

All of my PC's and appliances work just fine.

If this makes little sense, I apologize. I just had to ask.
Duncan



Re: [H] 3TB

2013-09-19 Thread Zulfiqar Naushad
That's sexy. Must read more.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 20, 2013, at 12:01 AM, "Robert Martin Jr."  wrote:

> What sold me most on the 5N was the ability to add a mSSD in the accelerator 
> bay, to cache data and speed transfers. I have a Crucial m4 128GB mSATA 
> Internal Solid State Drive CT128M4SSD3 in mine. Once I added that, the data 
> transfers are crazy fast. Plus the drobo is 5 bays not 4 like the readynas 
> NV+.
>
> lopaka
>
>
> 
> From: DSinc 
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [H] 3TB
>
>
> Oh! Holy cow! I guess I am still learning how to get my NAS to link up
> on my LAN.
> I've never tested, but do not think I see this performance. But then,
> since completing my
> 10base1000 LAN, I have never really tested. Actually, I know not how. I
> just move/copy stuff
> from my desktop to my NAS, and it goes pretty dang quick! The NAS-to-NAS
> backups at Zero-dark-30
> take place at theNAS' own chosen/agreed upon speed. This I never quibble
> about. Clearly I might not be
> on top of this, but it all works so well for me I just don't worry about
> it at all. I own/run these appliances that
> are so much smarter than me, but still speak to me in their 'plain
> speak' that I treat them as 'family.' Except for
> Intel nic cards, my NAS appliances are the most reliable network
> devicesI have ever owned.
> I know that they use a Debian-based Linux OS so I do not dig into their
> guts. No need to.
> They just plain workand make digital life a bit better.
> NAS-ON everyone!
> Duncan
>
> On 09/19/2013 16:07, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:
>> Drobo5N is a completely different beast compared to earlier units. I can 
>> transfer 20GB in under a couple minutes over network. ReadyNAS NV+ v1 is 
>> about 4-5x that and the v2 6-7x that
>>
>> lopaka
>>
>>
>> 
>>From: Zulfiqar Naushad 
>> To: "hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com" 
>> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [H] 3TB
>>
>>
>> The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match
>> different sizes and it works just fine.
>>
>> Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance.
>> Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today.
>>
>> I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size
>> drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my
>> synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything
>> just works and works well.
>>
>> If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand.
>> Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface
>> and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an
>> antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up
>> with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I
>> come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume.
>>
>> What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the
>> bandwidth to 2Gbps.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Zool,
>>> Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, 
>>> and,
>>> others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more..
>>> I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my
>>> 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens.
>>> For certain, Synology will be where I move to!  All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 
>>> and have
>>> never dropped a beat in 3 years.  I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, 
>>> any data loss
>>> I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS 
>>> boxes are the PFM
>>> part of my home LAN.
>>> Best,
>>> Duncan
>>>
>>> On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote:
 Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went
 with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat.
 On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, "DSinc"  wrote:

> Lopaka,
> Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me.
> How do you like your NV+ v2?
> I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I
> have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+.
> Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may
> try a cloud backup location. For now, I
> am very happy with my NAS's.
> Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via
> Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there.
> Duncan
>
> On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:
>
>> I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5
>> mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within
>> days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer 
>> warranty.
>>
>>
>> lopaka
>>
>>
>>
>> __**__
>>  From:

Re: [H] 3TB

2013-09-19 Thread Robert Martin Jr.
What sold me most on the 5N was the ability to add a mSSD in the accelerator 
bay, to cache data and speed transfers. I have a Crucial m4 128GB mSATA 
Internal Solid State Drive CT128M4SSD3 in mine. Once I added that, the data 
transfers are crazy fast. Plus the drobo is 5 bays not 4 like the readynas NV+.

lopaka



 From: DSinc 
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [H] 3TB
 

Oh! Holy cow! I guess I am still learning how to get my NAS to link up 
on my LAN.
I've never tested, but do not think I see this performance. But then, 
since completing my
10base1000 LAN, I have never really tested. Actually, I know not how. I 
just move/copy stuff
from my desktop to my NAS, and it goes pretty dang quick! The NAS-to-NAS 
backups at Zero-dark-30
take place at theNAS' own chosen/agreed upon speed. This I never quibble 
about. Clearly I might not be
on top of this, but it all works so well for me I just don't worry about 
it at all. I own/run these appliances that
are so much smarter than me, but still speak to me in their 'plain 
speak' that I treat them as 'family.' Except for
Intel nic cards, my NAS appliances are the most reliable network 
devicesI have ever owned.
I know that they use a Debian-based Linux OS so I do not dig into their 
guts. No need to.
They just plain workand make digital life a bit better.
NAS-ON everyone!
Duncan

On 09/19/2013 16:07, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:
> Drobo5N is a completely different beast compared to earlier units. I can 
> transfer 20GB in under a couple minutes over network. ReadyNAS NV+ v1 is 
> about 4-5x that and the v2 6-7x that
>
> lopaka
>
>
> 
>   From: Zulfiqar Naushad 
> To: "hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com" 
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [H] 3TB
>  
>
> The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match
> different sizes and it works just fine.
>
> Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance.
> Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today.
>
> I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size
> drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my
> synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything
> just works and works well.
>
> If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand.
> Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface
> and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an
> antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up
> with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I
> come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume.
>
> What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the
> bandwidth to 2Gbps.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc  wrote:
>
>> Hi Zool,
>> Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, 
>> and,
>> others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more..
>> I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my
>> 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens.
>> For certain, Synology will be where I move to!  All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 
>> and have
>> never dropped a beat in 3 years.  I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, 
>> any data loss
>> I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS 
>> boxes are the PFM
>> part of my home LAN.
>> Best,
>> Duncan
>>
>> On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote:
>>> Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went
>>> with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat.
>>> On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, "DSinc"  wrote:
>>>
 Lopaka,
 Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me.
 How do you like your NV+ v2?
 I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I
 have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+.
 Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may
 try a cloud backup location. For now, I
 am very happy with my NAS's.
 Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via
 Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there.
 Duncan

 On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:

> I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5
> mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within
> days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty.
>
>
> lopaka
>
>
>
> __**__
>     From: Anthony Q. Martin 
> To: "hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com"
> >
> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [H] 3TB
>
> I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for
> this application.
>

[H] Firefox problem

2013-09-19 Thread Winterlight
My primary browser is Opera but I also am using the latest updated 
version of Firefox. A month ago I was looking for a TV show I missed 
and ran a Google search. A torrent came up, and I clicked on it. The 
torrent never downloaded but ever since, every time I load Firefox 
the torrent at 0 bytes appears on my desktop which, for Firefox, is 
the download location. It doesn't appear in download history, or 
anywhere that I can find but there it is. How do I stop this behavior 
short of uninstalling Firefox. Thanks




Re: [H] 3TB

2013-09-19 Thread Robert Martin Jr.
Drobo5N is a completely different beast compared to earlier units. I can 
transfer 20GB in under a couple minutes over network. ReadyNAS NV+ v1 is about 
4-5x that and the v2 6-7x that

lopaka



 From: Zulfiqar Naushad 
To: "hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com"  
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [H] 3TB
 

The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match
different sizes and it works just fine.

Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance.
Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today.

I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size
drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my
synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything
just works and works well.

If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand.
Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface
and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an
antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up
with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I
come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume.

What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the
bandwidth to 2Gbps.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc  wrote:

> Hi Zool,
> Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, 
> and,
> others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more..
> I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my
> 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens.
> For certain, Synology will be where I move to!  All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 
> and have
> never dropped a beat in 3 years.  I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, 
> any data loss
> I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS 
> boxes are the PFM
> part of my home LAN.
> Best,
> Duncan
>
> On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote:
>> Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went
>> with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat.
>> On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, "DSinc"  wrote:
>>
>>> Lopaka,
>>> Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me.
>>> How do you like your NV+ v2?
>>> I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I
>>> have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+.
>>> Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may
>>> try a cloud backup location. For now, I
>>> am very happy with my NAS's.
>>> Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via
>>> Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there.
>>> Duncan
>>>
>>> On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:
>>>
 I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5
 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within
 days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty.


 lopaka



 __**__
   From: Anthony Q. Martin 
 To: "hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com"
 >
 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [H] 3TB

 I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for
 this application.

 Sent from my mobile device.

  On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight 
> wrote:
>
> I want to get  one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos
> oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at
> reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any
> issues with large 3TB drives?
>


Re: [H] 3TB

2013-09-19 Thread DSinc
Oh! Holy cow! I guess I am still learning how to get my NAS to link up 
on my LAN.
I've never tested, but do not think I see this performance. But then, 
since completing my
10base1000 LAN, I have never really tested. Actually, I know not how. I 
just move/copy stuff
from my desktop to my NAS, and it goes pretty dang quick! The NAS-to-NAS 
backups at Zero-dark-30
take place at theNAS' own chosen/agreed upon speed. This I never quibble 
about. Clearly I might not be
on top of this, but it all works so well for me I just don't worry about 
it at all. I own/run these appliances that
are so much smarter than me, but still speak to me in their 'plain 
speak' that I treat them as 'family.' Except for
Intel nic cards, my NAS appliances are the most reliable network 
devicesI have ever owned.
I know that they use a Debian-based Linux OS so I do not dig into their 
guts. No need to.

They just plain workand make digital life a bit better.
NAS-ON everyone!
Duncan

On 09/19/2013 16:07, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:

Drobo5N is a completely different beast compared to earlier units. I can 
transfer 20GB in under a couple minutes over network. ReadyNAS NV+ v1 is about 
4-5x that and the v2 6-7x that

lopaka



  From: Zulfiqar Naushad 
To: "hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com" 
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [H] 3TB
  


The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match
different sizes and it works just fine.

Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance.
Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today.

I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size
drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my
synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything
just works and works well.

If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand.
Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface
and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an
antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up
with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I
come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume.

What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the
bandwidth to 2Gbps.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc  wrote:


Hi Zool,
Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, and,
others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more..
I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my
3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens.
For certain, Synology will be where I move to!  All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 and 
have
never dropped a beat in 3 years.  I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, any 
data loss
I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS boxes 
are the PFM
part of my home LAN.
Best,
Duncan

On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote:

Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went
with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat.
On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, "DSinc"  wrote:


Lopaka,
Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me.
How do you like your NV+ v2?
I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I
have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+.
Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may
try a cloud backup location. For now, I
am very happy with my NAS's.
Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via
Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there.
Duncan

On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:


I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5
mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within
days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty.


lopaka



__**__
From: Anthony Q. Martin 
To: "hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com"
>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [H] 3TB

I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for
this application.

Sent from my mobile device.

   On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight 

wrote:

I want to get  one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos
oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at
reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any
issues with large 3TB drives?




Re: [H] 3TB

2013-09-19 Thread DSinc
I get it. You are a 'super-user.' Don't know about 'hybrid RAID.' I have 
never tried to fully
understand RAID. It is one of those PFM topics! I use XRAID2, which I 
suppose is Netgear's
own. Fine. I have no complaints ATM. My NAS are all 24/7, 365 since 
birth. No issues.


Me, I just store files. I don't do video, torrents, photo-albums, music 
round-abouts, etc.

I'm still a NAS-noob. But since 2009 and my first NAS, I am hooked.
My home LAN is NOT complete without an operational NASof some make,
model, color, flavor. I have seen the future and it lives and works in 
my home.

Thankyou List.
Duncan

On 09/19/2013 15:46, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote:

The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match
different sizes and it works just fine.

Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance.
Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today.

I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size
drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my
synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything
just works and works well.

If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand.
Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface
and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an
antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up
with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I
come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume.

What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the
bandwidth to 2Gbps.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc  wrote:


Hi Zool,
Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, and,
others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more..
I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my
3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens.
For certain, Synology will be where I move to!  All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 and 
have
never dropped a beat in 3 years.  I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, any 
data loss
I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS boxes 
are the PFM
part of my home LAN.
Best,
Duncan

On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote:

Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went
with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat.
On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, "DSinc"  wrote:


Lopaka,
Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me.
How do you like your NV+ v2?
I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I
have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+.
Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may
try a cloud backup location. For now, I
am very happy with my NAS's.
Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via
Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there.
Duncan

On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:


I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5
mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within
days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty.


lopaka



__**__
   From: Anthony Q. Martin 
To: "hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com"
>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [H] 3TB

I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for
this application.

Sent from my mobile device.

  On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight 

wrote:

I want to get  one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos
oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at
reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any
issues with large 3TB drives?




Re: [H] 3TB

2013-09-19 Thread Robert Martin Jr.
The data loss my my fault on that that one. The UPS I was using was not 
compatible with the readynas and I knew it, so the unit lost power when the 
battery ran out. I have only used compatible Ps's since then and have made it 
through and handful of power outages.

lopaka



 From: DSinc 
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [H] 3TB
 

Thanks for the history. Wow! Two NV+. Can I assume that both are 4-drive 
units?
Yes, I've read many threads about 'power outage' issues. And why each of 
my NAS has its' own UPS. This has been tested 3 times since moving to NW 
Georgia. We get many Electrical storms thanks to Mother Nature! The NAS 
shutdown logic has worked perfectly every time the UPS battery went to 
50% so far. My plan may not be perfect, but I am still hanging in there.
Sorry to hear of the data loss. Bummer. Yes, understand the 'speed 
issues.' Nothing is ever fast enough is it? Understand the Drobo5N. 
Drobo is very high in the ReadyNAS community also!
Never mind... :)
NAS ON Bro!
Duncan

On 09/19/2013 12:12, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:
> I actually have a ReadyNAS NV+ v1 and a v2. The v1 has been running for 
> years. I've had 1 catastrophic failure after a power outage outlasted the 
> UPS. Data was completely gone on 2 drives. Rebuilt and it has been running 
> fine since. I also had to replace the PS on the v1 once so far.
>
> The NV+ v2 is OK. Seems to have some speed issues when transferring large 
> files. I'm planning on selling it because I got a good deal on the Drobo5N 
> and it had large capacity.
>
> lopaka
>
>
> 
>   From: DSinc 
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [H] 3TB
>  
>
> Lopaka,
> Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me.
> How do you like your NV+ v2?
> I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that.
> I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+.
> Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or,
> may try a cloud backup location. For now, I
> am very happy with my NAS's.
> Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum
> via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there.
> Duncan
>
> On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:
>> I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos 
>> now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but 
>> the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty.
>>
>>
>> lopaka
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>     From: Anthony Q. Martin 
>> To: "hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [H] 3TB
>>    
>>
>> I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this 
>> application.
>>
>> Sent from my mobile device.
>>
>>> On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I want to get  one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither 
>>> a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and 
>>> price point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB 
>>> drives?
>>>


Re: [H] 3TB

2013-09-19 Thread DSinc

Hey Bro, we ain't perfect. I do so understand.
Duncan

On 09/19/2013 15:07, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:

The data loss my my fault on that that one. The UPS I was using was not 
compatible with the readynas and I knew it, so the unit lost power when the 
battery ran out. I have only used compatible Ps's since then and have made it 
through and handful of power outages.

lopaka



  From: DSinc 
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [H] 3TB
  


Thanks for the history. Wow! Two NV+. Can I assume that both are 4-drive
units?
Yes, I've read many threads about 'power outage' issues. And why each of
my NAS has its' own UPS. This has been tested 3 times since moving to NW
Georgia. We get many Electrical storms thanks to Mother Nature! The NAS
shutdown logic has worked perfectly every time the UPS battery went to
50% so far. My plan may not be perfect, but I am still hanging in there.
Sorry to hear of the data loss. Bummer. Yes, understand the 'speed
issues.' Nothing is ever fast enough is it? Understand the Drobo5N.
Drobo is very high in the ReadyNAS community also!
Never mind... :)
NAS ON Bro!
Duncan

On 09/19/2013 12:12, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:

I actually have a ReadyNAS NV+ v1 and a v2. The v1 has been running for years. 
I've had 1 catastrophic failure after a power outage outlasted the UPS. Data 
was completely gone on 2 drives. Rebuilt and it has been running fine since. I 
also had to replace the PS on the v1 once so far.

The NV+ v2 is OK. Seems to have some speed issues when transferring large 
files. I'm planning on selling it because I got a good deal on the Drobo5N and 
it had large capacity.

lopaka



From: DSinc 
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:03 AM
Subject: Re: [H] 3TB
   


Lopaka,
Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me.
How do you like your NV+ v2?
I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that.
I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+.
Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or,
may try a cloud backup location. For now, I
am very happy with my NAS's.
Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum
via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there.
Duncan

On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:

I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos 
now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but 
the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty.


lopaka




  From: Anthony Q. Martin 
To: "hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [H] 3TB
 


I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this 
application.

Sent from my mobile device.


On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight  wrote:

I want to get  one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a 
Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and price 
point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB drives?





Re: [H] 3TB

2013-09-19 Thread Zulfiqar Naushad
The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match
different sizes and it works just fine.

Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance.
Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today.

I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size
drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my
synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything
just works and works well.

If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand.
Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface
and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an
antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up
with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I
come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume.

What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the
bandwidth to 2Gbps.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc  wrote:

> Hi Zool,
> Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, 
> and,
> others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more..
> I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my
> 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens.
> For certain, Synology will be where I move to!  All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 
> and have
> never dropped a beat in 3 years.  I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, 
> any data loss
> I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS 
> boxes are the PFM
> part of my home LAN.
> Best,
> Duncan
>
> On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote:
>> Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went
>> with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat.
>> On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, "DSinc"  wrote:
>>
>>> Lopaka,
>>> Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me.
>>> How do you like your NV+ v2?
>>> I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I
>>> have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+.
>>> Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may
>>> try a cloud backup location. For now, I
>>> am very happy with my NAS's.
>>> Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via
>>> Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there.
>>> Duncan
>>>
>>> On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:
>>>
 I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5
 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within
 days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty.


 lopaka



 __**__
   From: Anthony Q. Martin 
 To: "hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com"
 >
 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [H] 3TB

 I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for
 this application.

 Sent from my mobile device.

  On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight 
> wrote:
>
> I want to get  one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos
> oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at
> reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any
> issues with large 3TB drives?
>


Re: [H] 3TB

2013-09-19 Thread DSinc
Thanks for the history. Wow! Two NV+. Can I assume that both are 4-drive 
units?
Yes, I've read many threads about 'power outage' issues. And why each of 
my NAS has its' own UPS. This has been tested 3 times since moving to NW 
Georgia. We get many Electrical storms thanks to Mother Nature! The NAS 
shutdown logic has worked perfectly every time the UPS battery went to 
50% so far. My plan may not be perfect, but I am still hanging in there.
Sorry to hear of the data loss. Bummer. Yes, understand the 'speed 
issues.' Nothing is ever fast enough is it? Understand the Drobo5N. 
Drobo is very high in the ReadyNAS community also!

Never mind... :)
NAS ON Bro!
Duncan

On 09/19/2013 12:12, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:

I actually have a ReadyNAS NV+ v1 and a v2. The v1 has been running for years. 
I've had 1 catastrophic failure after a power outage outlasted the UPS. Data 
was completely gone on 2 drives. Rebuilt and it has been running fine since. I 
also had to replace the PS on the v1 once so far.

The NV+ v2 is OK. Seems to have some speed issues when transferring large 
files. I'm planning on selling it because I got a good deal on the Drobo5N and 
it had large capacity.

lopaka



  From: DSinc 
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:03 AM
Subject: Re: [H] 3TB
  


Lopaka,
Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me.
How do you like your NV+ v2?
I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that.
I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+.
Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or,
may try a cloud backup location. For now, I
am very happy with my NAS's.
Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum
via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there.
Duncan

On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:

I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos 
now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but 
the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty.


lopaka




From: Anthony Q. Martin 
To: "hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [H] 3TB
   


I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this 
application.

Sent from my mobile device.


On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight  wrote:

I want to get  one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a 
Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and price 
point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB drives?





Re: [H] 3TB

2013-09-19 Thread Robert Martin Jr.
I actually have a ReadyNAS NV+ v1 and a v2. The v1 has been running for years. 
I've had 1 catastrophic failure after a power outage outlasted the UPS. Data 
was completely gone on 2 drives. Rebuilt and it has been running fine since. I 
also had to replace the PS on the v1 once so far.

The NV+ v2 is OK. Seems to have some speed issues when transferring large 
files. I'm planning on selling it because I got a good deal on the Drobo5N and 
it had large capacity.

lopaka



 From: DSinc 
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:03 AM
Subject: Re: [H] 3TB
 

Lopaka,
Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me.
How do you like your NV+ v2?
I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. 
I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+.
Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, 
may try a cloud backup location. For now, I
am very happy with my NAS's.
Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum 
via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there.
Duncan

On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:
> I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos 
> now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but 
> the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty.
>
>
> lopaka
>
>
>
> 
>   From: Anthony Q. Martin 
> To: "hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [H] 3TB
>  
>
> I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this 
> application.
>
> Sent from my mobile device.
>
>> On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight  wrote:
>>
>> I want to get  one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a 
>> Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and 
>> price point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB 
>> drives?
>>


Re: [H] Touch screen monitors

2013-09-19 Thread tmservo

On 2013-09-17 13:09, Thane Sherrington wrote:

Anyone have any recommendations for good touch screen monitors with a
2 or 3 year warranty?  Anything from 20" to 27" would be great.

T


Avoid the HP ones.  The USB host on them disconnects often so you have 
to unplug and plug them back in repeatedly.


Re: [H] 3TB

2013-09-19 Thread DSinc

Hi Zool,
Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, 
QNAP, and,

others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more..
I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my
3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens.
For certain, Synology will be where I move to!  All of my ReadyNAS run 
24/7 and have
never dropped a beat in 3 years.  I still wait for my 1st HD failure! 
And, any data loss
I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS 
boxes are the PFM

part of my home LAN.
Best,
Duncan

On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote:

Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went
with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat.
On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, "DSinc"  wrote:


Lopaka,
Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me.
How do you like your NV+ v2?
I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I
have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+.
Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may
try a cloud backup location. For now, I
am very happy with my NAS's.
Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via
Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there.
Duncan

On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:


I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5
mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within
days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty.


lopaka



__**__
   From: Anthony Q. Martin 
To: "hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com"
>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [H] 3TB

I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for
this application.

Sent from my mobile device.

  On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight 

wrote:

I want to get  one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos
oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at
reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any
issues with large 3TB drives?






Re: [H] 3TB

2013-09-19 Thread Naushad Zulfiqar
Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went
with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat.
On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, "DSinc"  wrote:

> Lopaka,
> Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me.
> How do you like your NV+ v2?
> I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I
> have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+.
> Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may
> try a cloud backup location. For now, I
> am very happy with my NAS's.
> Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via
> Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there.
> Duncan
>
> On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:
>
>> I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5
>> mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within
>> days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty.
>>
>>
>> lopaka
>>
>>
>>
>> __**__
>>   From: Anthony Q. Martin 
>> To: "hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com"
>> >
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [H] 3TB
>>
>> I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for
>> this application.
>>
>> Sent from my mobile device.
>>
>>  On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I want to get  one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos
>>> oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at
>>> reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any
>>> issues with large 3TB drives?
>>>
>>>
>


Re: [H] 3TB

2013-09-19 Thread DSinc

Lopaka,
Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me.
How do you like your NV+ v2?
I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. 
I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+.
Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, 
may try a cloud backup location. For now, I

am very happy with my NAS's.
Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum 
via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there.

Duncan

On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:

I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos 
now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but 
the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty.


lopaka




  From: Anthony Q. Martin 
To: "hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [H] 3TB
  


I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this 
application.

Sent from my mobile device.


On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight  wrote:

I want to get  one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a 
Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and price 
point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB drives?