Re: [H] iOS 7
On 20 Sep 2013 08:26, "Zulfiqar Naushad" wrote: > > Indian the real winner is the consumer and that's what matters the most. > > Sent from my iPhone Smart predictive technology at it's best.
Re: [H] iOS 7
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 03:25:52AM +0300, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: > So, I updated my phone to iOS 7 and it looks pretty decent so far. > It looks like *ASS* but the functionality and performance are definitely better. > It's funny how Apple has taken the best bits from different operating > systems but somehow have managed to improve them and give them a name. > And that's what I don't like about Apple it makes people think that > Apple has invented this feature while that is not necessarily the > case. What's wrong with that, the consumer still benefits. > Either way it really doesn't matter in the end I think that what Apple > is doing pushes the mobile industry forward regardless of how they may > copy other people. The iPhone started it all, the 'screw the carrier' restricted bullsh*t here's a phone that actually does things! Now we have ios/android in the lead and blackberry on the way out which is great from where I stand. > Indian the real winner is the consumer and that's what matters the most. ^ -- Bryan G. Seitz
Re: [H] iOS 7
What annoys me is when Apple fanboys see something and say apple invented it. Good example is iCloud. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2013, at 4:10 AM, "Anthony Q. Martin" wrote: > > Why is it a problem to give them credit for making it all work? > > Sent from my mobile device. > >> On Sep 19, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: >> >> So, I updated my phone to iOS 7 and it looks pretty decent so far. >> >> The new layout is a bit jarring but I'm sure I will get used to it. >> >> It's funny how Apple has taken the best bits from different operating >> systems but somehow have managed to improve them and give them a name. >> And that's what I don't like about Apple it makes people think that >> Apple has invented this feature while that is not necessarily the >> case. >> >> Either way it really doesn't matter in the end I think that what Apple >> is doing pushes the mobile industry forward regardless of how they may >> copy other people. >> >> Indian the real winner is the consumer and that's what matters the most. >> >> Sent from my iPhone
Re: [H] iOS 7
Why is it a problem to give them credit for making it all work? Sent from my mobile device. > On Sep 19, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: > > So, I updated my phone to iOS 7 and it looks pretty decent so far. > > The new layout is a bit jarring but I'm sure I will get used to it. > > It's funny how Apple has taken the best bits from different operating > systems but somehow have managed to improve them and give them a name. > And that's what I don't like about Apple it makes people think that > Apple has invented this feature while that is not necessarily the > case. > > Either way it really doesn't matter in the end I think that what Apple > is doing pushes the mobile industry forward regardless of how they may > copy other people. > > Indian the real winner is the consumer and that's what matters the most. > > Sent from my iPhone
[H] iOS 7
So, I updated my phone to iOS 7 and it looks pretty decent so far. The new layout is a bit jarring but I'm sure I will get used to it. It's funny how Apple has taken the best bits from different operating systems but somehow have managed to improve them and give them a name. And that's what I don't like about Apple it makes people think that Apple has invented this feature while that is not necessarily the case. Either way it really doesn't matter in the end I think that what Apple is doing pushes the mobile industry forward regardless of how they may copy other people. Indian the real winner is the consumer and that's what matters the most. Sent from my iPhone
Re: [H] Again MSHOME vs. WORKGROUP?
No harm, no foul, Steve. In XP I do know where it is. I will get to W7 in due time. I'm still a bit hesitant ATM. Maybe just jitters, but, :) Duncan On 09/19/2013 19:18, Steve Tomporowski wrote: Sorry, I thought you had upgraded. In XP: Control Panel - System - Computer Name and click on the 'change' button. I used to change the Workgroup name all the time, but every install, Windows defaults, so I stopped. Steve On 9/19/2013 6:54 PM, DSinc wrote: Steve, I will save this reply for when I do switch to Win7pro. !am still on the fence (XP); and, my family is waiting for me to do the deed! My siblings have proclaimed me their "Wizard." I've kept them happy from Win98SE, thru Win2K, and WinXP. As I recall the consensus here, "Vista is not ever good fish wrap. Wait for the next offering!" Am I tired? YES! But, somebody always gets stuck with this duty I fear. Thank you to you, and, the Collective You have no idea how many issues you have fixed since 2000 that had zero to do with my machines! Sorry. Duncan On 09/19/2013 18:27, Steve Tomporowski wrote: Duncan, The bottom line is that you can change the workgroup name, but you have to do it on each and every computer. In Win7, it's under Control Panel - System and Security - System - Advanced System Settings - Computer Name and to rename the computer. At the bottom it will allow you to change the workgroup. Steve On 9/19/2013 6:20 PM, Tim Lider wrote: Usually you set that up yourself when installing Windows or other OS's. My router domain at home is Beave.net, but when I install Windows it defaults to workgroup and the domain/workgroup. At work the domain is ADV-DATA.local and it is setup that way on the router. Although, I have it setup if anyone uses the DHCP to access the network they will not be able to access the domain services, this is due to the fact the Router has one DNS server and the Domain uses others to access the active directory and network itself. Looks to see if their DNS is setup manually or it is automatic and check their subnet as well. Those 2 would make it difficult to access net appliances and shares across the network. Regards, On September 19, 2013 at 2:56 PM DSinc wrote: All of my Brother's LAN clients appear to be: WORKGROUP=MSHOME. Is this an OS default? I do know how to change this value. And, all of my Brother's clients are set to get their network specs automatically - the MS Default (like from his router). Fine. When he brings his laptop to my home once a year, he can somehow get to the internet via my router, but he can not get to any of my other LAN services/PC's//appliances. Odd. I used to admin his laptop 'into' my LAN, but this never really fixed everything. Confusing? Is WORKGROUP= ? a router DHCP assigned value? I have recently turned on my router's DHCP server, and the logic seems to work fine. My home LAN and all of my PC clients us WORKGROUP=WORKGROUP (probably from back in Win2K times). All of my PC's and appliances work just fine. If this makes little sense, I apologize. I just had to ask. Duncan Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com timli...@adv-data.com
Re: [H] Again MSHOME vs. WORKGROUP?
Sorry, I thought you had upgraded. In XP: Control Panel - System - Computer Name and click on the 'change' button. I used to change the Workgroup name all the time, but every install, Windows defaults, so I stopped. Steve On 9/19/2013 6:54 PM, DSinc wrote: Steve, I will save this reply for when I do switch to Win7pro. !am still on the fence (XP); and, my family is waiting for me to do the deed! My siblings have proclaimed me their "Wizard." I've kept them happy from Win98SE, thru Win2K, and WinXP. As I recall the consensus here, "Vista is not ever good fish wrap. Wait for the next offering!" Am I tired? YES! But, somebody always gets stuck with this duty I fear. Thank you to you, and, the Collective You have no idea how many issues you have fixed since 2000 that had zero to do with my machines! Sorry. Duncan On 09/19/2013 18:27, Steve Tomporowski wrote: Duncan, The bottom line is that you can change the workgroup name, but you have to do it on each and every computer. In Win7, it's under Control Panel - System and Security - System - Advanced System Settings - Computer Name and to rename the computer. At the bottom it will allow you to change the workgroup. Steve On 9/19/2013 6:20 PM, Tim Lider wrote: Usually you set that up yourself when installing Windows or other OS's. My router domain at home is Beave.net, but when I install Windows it defaults to workgroup and the domain/workgroup. At work the domain is ADV-DATA.local and it is setup that way on the router. Although, I have it setup if anyone uses the DHCP to access the network they will not be able to access the domain services, this is due to the fact the Router has one DNS server and the Domain uses others to access the active directory and network itself. Looks to see if their DNS is setup manually or it is automatic and check their subnet as well. Those 2 would make it difficult to access net appliances and shares across the network. Regards, On September 19, 2013 at 2:56 PM DSinc wrote: All of my Brother's LAN clients appear to be: WORKGROUP=MSHOME. Is this an OS default? I do know how to change this value. And, all of my Brother's clients are set to get their network specs automatically - the MS Default (like from his router). Fine. When he brings his laptop to my home once a year, he can somehow get to the internet via my router, but he can not get to any of my other LAN services/PC's//appliances. Odd. I used to admin his laptop 'into' my LAN, but this never really fixed everything. Confusing? Is WORKGROUP= ? a router DHCP assigned value? I have recently turned on my router's DHCP server, and the logic seems to work fine. My home LAN and all of my PC clients us WORKGROUP=WORKGROUP (probably from back in Win2K times). All of my PC's and appliances work just fine. If this makes little sense, I apologize. I just had to ask. Duncan Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com timli...@adv-data.com
Re: [H] Again MSHOME vs. WORKGROUP?
Steve, I will save this reply for when I do switch to Win7pro. !am still on the fence (XP); and, my family is waiting for me to do the deed! My siblings have proclaimed me their "Wizard." I've kept them happy from Win98SE, thru Win2K, and WinXP. As I recall the consensus here, "Vista is not ever good fish wrap. Wait for the next offering!" Am I tired? YES! But, somebody always gets stuck with this duty I fear. Thank you to you, and, the Collective You have no idea how many issues you have fixed since 2000 that had zero to do with my machines! Sorry. Duncan On 09/19/2013 18:27, Steve Tomporowski wrote: Duncan, The bottom line is that you can change the workgroup name, but you have to do it on each and every computer. In Win7, it's under Control Panel - System and Security - System - Advanced System Settings - Computer Name and to rename the computer. At the bottom it will allow you to change the workgroup. Steve On 9/19/2013 6:20 PM, Tim Lider wrote: Usually you set that up yourself when installing Windows or other OS's. My router domain at home is Beave.net, but when I install Windows it defaults to workgroup and the domain/workgroup. At work the domain is ADV-DATA.local and it is setup that way on the router. Although, I have it setup if anyone uses the DHCP to access the network they will not be able to access the domain services, this is due to the fact the Router has one DNS server and the Domain uses others to access the active directory and network itself. Looks to see if their DNS is setup manually or it is automatic and check their subnet as well. Those 2 would make it difficult to access net appliances and shares across the network. Regards, On September 19, 2013 at 2:56 PM DSinc wrote: All of my Brother's LAN clients appear to be: WORKGROUP=MSHOME. Is this an OS default? I do know how to change this value. And, all of my Brother's clients are set to get their network specs automatically - the MS Default (like from his router). Fine. When he brings his laptop to my home once a year, he can somehow get to the internet via my router, but he can not get to any of my other LAN services/PC's//appliances. Odd. I used to admin his laptop 'into' my LAN, but this never really fixed everything. Confusing? Is WORKGROUP= ? a router DHCP assigned value? I have recently turned on my router's DHCP server, and the logic seems to work fine. My home LAN and all of my PC clients us WORKGROUP=WORKGROUP (probably from back in Win2K times). All of my PC's and appliances work just fine. If this makes little sense, I apologize. I just had to ask. Duncan Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com timli...@adv-data.com
Re: [H] Firefox problem
Well, your 'short of' may fix it. How deep do you cull your cookies and/of history? Duncan On 09/19/2013 16:47, Winterlight wrote: My primary browser is Opera but I also am using the latest updated version of Firefox. A month ago I was looking for a TV show I missed and ran a Google search. A torrent came up, and I clicked on it. The torrent never downloaded but ever since, every time I load Firefox the torrent at 0 bytes appears on my desktop which, for Firefox, is the download location. It doesn't appear in download history, or anywhere that I can find but there it is. How do I stop this behavior short of uninstalling Firefox. Thanks
Re: [H] 3TB
This I truly understand. The ReadyNAS community is really active about, "Can I replace my EMC HD's with bigger SSD's?" I am watching these topics. And, I am now seeing NAS platforms that do now use SSD's. Sheesh! I have to admit I am getting old. Some of this stuff is way above me. But, I do see the push, and, I accept that it will come to pass. Duncan On 09/19/2013 17:01, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: What sold me most on the 5N was the ability to add a mSSD in the accelerator bay, to cache data and speed transfers. I have a Crucial m4 128GB mSATA Internal Solid State Drive CT128M4SSD3 in mine. Once I added that, the data transfers are crazy fast. Plus the drobo is 5 bays not 4 like the readynas NV+. lopaka From: DSinc To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB Oh! Holy cow! I guess I am still learning how to get my NAS to link up on my LAN. I've never tested, but do not think I see this performance. But then, since completing my 10base1000 LAN, I have never really tested. Actually, I know not how. I just move/copy stuff from my desktop to my NAS, and it goes pretty dang quick! The NAS-to-NAS backups at Zero-dark-30 take place at theNAS' own chosen/agreed upon speed. This I never quibble about. Clearly I might not be on top of this, but it all works so well for me I just don't worry about it at all. I own/run these appliances that are so much smarter than me, but still speak to me in their 'plain speak' that I treat them as 'family.' Except for Intel nic cards, my NAS appliances are the most reliable network devicesI have ever owned. I know that they use a Debian-based Linux OS so I do not dig into their guts. No need to. They just plain workand make digital life a bit better. NAS-ON everyone! Duncan On 09/19/2013 16:07, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: Drobo5N is a completely different beast compared to earlier units. I can transfer 20GB in under a couple minutes over network. ReadyNAS NV+ v1 is about 4-5x that and the v2 6-7x that lopaka From: Zulfiqar Naushad To: "hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com" Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match different sizes and it works just fine. Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance. Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today. I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything just works and works well. If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand. Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume. What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the bandwidth to 2Gbps. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc wrote: Hi Zool, Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, and, others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more.. I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens. For certain, Synology will be where I move to! All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 and have never dropped a beat in 3 years. I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, any data loss I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS boxes are the PFM part of my home LAN. Best, Duncan On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat. On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, "DSinc" wrote: Lopaka, Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. How do you like your NV+ v2? I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may try a cloud backup location. For now, I am very happy with my NAS's. Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. Duncan On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. lopaka __**__ From: Anthony Q. Martin To: "hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com" > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM Subject
Re: [H] 3TB
Heck, your research is way behind. SSD's in NAS is a fact to my meager reads. True, any of the users are Linux-geeks that have 'dicked' with their NAS's OS (f/w), but still. I read it to mean that this is active ATM, if only on a limited scale. Way above my pay grade :) LOL! Duncan On 09/19/2013 17:02, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: That's sexy. Must read more. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2013, at 12:01 AM, "Robert Martin Jr." wrote: What sold me most on the 5N was the ability to add a mSSD in the accelerator bay, to cache data and speed transfers. I have a Crucial m4 128GB mSATA Internal Solid State Drive CT128M4SSD3 in mine. Once I added that, the data transfers are crazy fast. Plus the drobo is 5 bays not 4 like the readynas NV+. lopaka From: DSinc To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB Oh! Holy cow! I guess I am still learning how to get my NAS to link up on my LAN. I've never tested, but do not think I see this performance. But then, since completing my 10base1000 LAN, I have never really tested. Actually, I know not how. I just move/copy stuff from my desktop to my NAS, and it goes pretty dang quick! The NAS-to-NAS backups at Zero-dark-30 take place at theNAS' own chosen/agreed upon speed. This I never quibble about. Clearly I might not be on top of this, but it all works so well for me I just don't worry about it at all. I own/run these appliances that are so much smarter than me, but still speak to me in their 'plain speak' that I treat them as 'family.' Except for Intel nic cards, my NAS appliances are the most reliable network devicesI have ever owned. I know that they use a Debian-based Linux OS so I do not dig into their guts. No need to. They just plain workand make digital life a bit better. NAS-ON everyone! Duncan On 09/19/2013 16:07, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: Drobo5N is a completely different beast compared to earlier units. I can transfer 20GB in under a couple minutes over network. ReadyNAS NV+ v1 is about 4-5x that and the v2 6-7x that lopaka From: Zulfiqar Naushad To: "hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com" Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match different sizes and it works just fine. Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance. Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today. I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything just works and works well. If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand. Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume. What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the bandwidth to 2Gbps. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc wrote: Hi Zool, Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, and, others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more.. I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens. For certain, Synology will be where I move to! All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 and have never dropped a beat in 3 years. I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, any data loss I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS boxes are the PFM part of my home LAN. Best, Duncan On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat. On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, "DSinc" wrote: Lopaka, Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. How do you like your NV+ v2? I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may try a cloud backup location. For now, I am very happy with my NAS's. Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. Duncan On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. lopaka __**__ From: Anthony Q. Martin To: "hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com" > Sent:
Re: [H] 3TB
Ssds will take over one day. But not till they come down in price and much more capacity. The thought of a ssd nas makes me salivate. Lol. On Sep 20, 2013 1:02 AM, "DSinc" wrote: > This I truly understand. The ReadyNAS community is really active about, > "Can I replace my EMC HD's with bigger SSD's?" > I am watching these topics. And, I am now seeing NAS platforms that do now > use SSD's. Sheesh! > I have to admit I am getting old. Some of this stuff is way above me. But, > I do see the push, and, I accept that it will come to pass. > Duncan > > On 09/19/2013 17:01, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: > >> What sold me most on the 5N was the ability to add a mSSD in the >> accelerator bay, to cache data and speed transfers. I have a Crucial m4 >> 128GB mSATA Internal Solid State Drive CT128M4SSD3 in mine. Once I added >> that, the data transfers are crazy fast. Plus the drobo is 5 bays not 4 >> like the readynas NV+. >> >> lopaka >> >> >> __**__ >> From: DSinc >> To: hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com >> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:36 PM >> Subject: Re: [H] 3TB >> >> Oh! Holy cow! I guess I am still learning how to get my NAS to link up >> on my LAN. >> I've never tested, but do not think I see this performance. But then, >> since completing my >> 10base1000 LAN, I have never really tested. Actually, I know not how. I >> just move/copy stuff >> from my desktop to my NAS, and it goes pretty dang quick! The NAS-to-NAS >> backups at Zero-dark-30 >> take place at theNAS' own chosen/agreed upon speed. This I never quibble >> about. Clearly I might not be >> on top of this, but it all works so well for me I just don't worry about >> it at all. I own/run these appliances that >> are so much smarter than me, but still speak to me in their 'plain >> speak' that I treat them as 'family.' Except for >> Intel nic cards, my NAS appliances are the most reliable network >> devicesI have ever owned. >> I know that they use a Debian-based Linux OS so I do not dig into their >> guts. No need to. >> They just plain workand make digital life a bit better. >> NAS-ON everyone! >> Duncan >> >> On 09/19/2013 16:07, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: >> >>> Drobo5N is a completely different beast compared to earlier units. I can >>> transfer 20GB in under a couple minutes over network. ReadyNAS NV+ v1 is >>> about 4-5x that and the v2 6-7x that >>> >>> lopaka >>> >>> >>> __**__ >>> From: Zulfiqar Naushad >>> To: "hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com" >>> > >>> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:46 PM >>> Subject: Re: [H] 3TB >>> >>> The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match >>> different sizes and it works just fine. >>> >>> Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance. >>> Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today. >>> >>> I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size >>> drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my >>> synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything >>> just works and works well. >>> >>> If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand. >>> Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface >>> and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an >>> antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up >>> with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I >>> come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume. >>> >>> What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the >>> bandwidth to 2Gbps. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc wrote: >>> >>> Hi Zool, Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, and, others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more.. I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens. For certain, Synology will be where I move to! All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 and have never dropped a beat in 3 years. I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, any data loss I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS boxes are the PFM part of my home LAN. Best, Duncan On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: > Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I > went > with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat. > On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, "DSinc" wrote: > > Lopaka, >> Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. >> How do you like your NV+ v2? >> I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for >> that. I >> have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. >> Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, >> or, may >> try a cl
Re: [H] Again MSHOME vs. WORKGROUP?
Tim, Thanks for the reply. I do so understand your situation(s). I don't have that need for separation. In any case, I think Jaime's reply has me back on track again. Yes, I do get the DNS business, but, ATM I do not have any data for the DNS servers at my Brother's ISP (rr.com). I guess I am being lazy, but I figure he can find this data from his tech support, BrightHouse. Duncan On 09/19/2013 18:20, Tim Lider wrote: Usually you set that up yourself when installing Windows or other OS's. My router domain at home is Beave.net, but when I install Windows it defaults to workgroup and the domain/workgroup. At work the domain is ADV-DATA.local and it is setup that way on the router. Although, I have it setup if anyone uses the DHCP to access the network they will not be able to access the domain services, this is due to the fact the Router has one DNS server and the Domain uses others to access the active directory and network itself. Looks to see if their DNS is setup manually or it is automatic and check their subnet as well. Those 2 would make it difficult to access net appliances and shares across the network. Regards, On September 19, 2013 at 2:56 PM DSinc wrote: All of my Brother's LAN clients appear to be: WORKGROUP=MSHOME. Is this an OS default? I do know how to change this value. And, all of my Brother's clients are set to get their network specs automatically - the MS Default (like from his router). Fine. When he brings his laptop to my home once a year, he can somehow get to the internet via my router, but he can not get to any of my other LAN services/PC's//appliances. Odd. I used to admin his laptop 'into' my LAN, but this never really fixed everything. Confusing? Is WORKGROUP= ? a router DHCP assigned value? I have recently turned on my router's DHCP server, and the logic seems to work fine. My home LAN and all of my PC clients us WORKGROUP=WORKGROUP (probably from back in Win2K times). All of my PC's and appliances work just fine. If this makes little sense, I apologize. I just had to ask. Duncan Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com timli...@adv-data.com
Re: [H] Again MSHOME vs. WORKGROUP?
On 2013-09-19 3:56 PM, DSinc wrote: > All of my Brother's LAN clients appear to be: WORKGROUP=MSHOME. Is > this an OS default? > I do know how to change this value. And, all of my Brother's clients > are set to get their network specs > automatically - the MS Default (like from his router). Fine. > > When he brings his laptop to my home once a year, he can somehow get > to the internet via my router, but he > can not get to any of my other LAN services/PC's//appliances. Odd. I > used to admin his laptop 'into' my LAN, but this > never really fixed everything. Confusing? > > Is WORKGROUP= ? a router DHCP assigned value? > I have recently turned on my router's DHCP server, and the logic seems > to work fine. > > My home LAN and all of my PC clients us WORKGROUP=WORKGROUP (probably > from back in Win2K times). > All of my PC's and appliances work just fine. > > If this makes little sense, I apologize. I just had to ask. > Duncan > Workgroup is not something a router sets (at all - it's not a property of a DHCP scope), instead it's statically set in System properties. What its intention was to have a collection of computers that are on the same network and share resources, but not in a corporate domain (Active Directory). It's an arbitrary name you assign, and on new installs I believe the default is WORKGROUP, but I've seen MSHOME on some people's machines - it might be a default in the non-pro edition of Windows. Workgroups have always been slightly imperfect in my experience - what's supposed to happen is that machines broadcast to find all the other machines in the same workgroup and show them in network neighbourhood. I've occasionally found that some machines don't respond or are never browsable via network neighbourhood, but you should still be able to navigate to your other machines using the a syntax like \\MACHINENAME or \\. Don't forget that newer operating systems may not turn on sharing by default, and depending on the sharing model (Simple or not) it still may not work even if you navigate directly to the machines - everything has to use the same model I think. Jamie -- Jamie Furtner ja...@furtner.ca
Re: [H] Again MSHOME vs. WORKGROUP?
Usually you set that up yourself when installing Windows or other OS's. My router domain at home is Beave.net, but when I install Windows it defaults to workgroup and the domain/workgroup. At work the domain is ADV-DATA.local and it is setup that way on the router. Although, I have it setup if anyone uses the DHCP to access the network they will not be able to access the domain services, this is due to the fact the Router has one DNS server and the Domain uses others to access the active directory and network itself. Looks to see if their DNS is setup manually or it is automatic and check their subnet as well. Those 2 would make it difficult to access net appliances and shares across the network. Regards, On September 19, 2013 at 2:56 PM DSinc wrote: > All of my Brother's LAN clients appear to be: WORKGROUP=MSHOME. Is this > an OS default? > I do know how to change this value. And, all of my Brother's clients are > set to get their network specs > automatically - the MS Default (like from his router). Fine. > > When he brings his laptop to my home once a year, he can somehow get to > the internet via my router, but he > can not get to any of my other LAN services/PC's//appliances. Odd. I > used to admin his laptop 'into' my LAN, but this > never really fixed everything. Confusing? > > Is WORKGROUP= ? a router DHCP assigned value? > I have recently turned on my router's DHCP server, and the logic seems > to work fine. > > My home LAN and all of my PC clients us WORKGROUP=WORKGROUP (probably > from back in Win2K times). > All of my PC's and appliances work just fine. > > If this makes little sense, I apologize. I just had to ask. > Duncan > Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com timli...@adv-data.com
Re: [H] Again MSHOME vs. WORKGROUP?
Jaime, Thank you for your share. Youhave blown 3years of confusion on my part right into the dirt! Nope, not worrying about machine unique 'shares.' That is a separate bucket of snakes. I got it, and, it makes so much sense to me ATM. TNX, Duncan On 09/19/2013 18:17, Jamie Furtner wrote: On 2013-09-19 3:56 PM, DSinc wrote: All of my Brother's LAN clients appear to be: WORKGROUP=MSHOME. Is this an OS default? I do know how to change this value. And, all of my Brother's clients are set to get their network specs automatically - the MS Default (like from his router). Fine. When he brings his laptop to my home once a year, he can somehow get to the internet via my router, but he can not get to any of my other LAN services/PC's//appliances. Odd. I used to admin his laptop 'into' my LAN, but this never really fixed everything. Confusing? Is WORKGROUP= ? a router DHCP assigned value? I have recently turned on my router's DHCP server, and the logic seems to work fine. My home LAN and all of my PC clients us WORKGROUP=WORKGROUP (probably from back in Win2K times). All of my PC's and appliances work just fine. If this makes little sense, I apologize. I just had to ask. Duncan Workgroup is not something a router sets (at all - it's not a property of a DHCP scope), instead it's statically set in System properties. What its intention was to have a collection of computers that are on the same network and share resources, but not in a corporate domain (Active Directory). It's an arbitrary name you assign, and on new installs I believe the default is WORKGROUP, but I've seen MSHOME on some people's machines - it might be a default in the non-pro edition of Windows. Workgroups have always been slightly imperfect in my experience - what's supposed to happen is that machines broadcast to find all the other machines in the same workgroup and show them in network neighbourhood. I've occasionally found that some machines don't respond or are never browsable via network neighbourhood, but you should still be able to navigate to your other machines using the a syntax like \\MACHINENAME or \\. Don't forget that newer operating systems may not turn on sharing by default, and depending on the sharing model (Simple or not) it still may not work even if you navigate directly to the machines - everything has to use the same model I think. Jamie
Re: [H] Again MSHOME vs. WORKGROUP?
Duncan, The bottom line is that you can change the workgroup name, but you have to do it on each and every computer. In Win7, it's under Control Panel - System and Security - System - Advanced System Settings - Computer Name and to rename the computer. At the bottom it will allow you to change the workgroup. Steve On 9/19/2013 6:20 PM, Tim Lider wrote: Usually you set that up yourself when installing Windows or other OS's. My router domain at home is Beave.net, but when I install Windows it defaults to workgroup and the domain/workgroup. At work the domain is ADV-DATA.local and it is setup that way on the router. Although, I have it setup if anyone uses the DHCP to access the network they will not be able to access the domain services, this is due to the fact the Router has one DNS server and the Domain uses others to access the active directory and network itself. Looks to see if their DNS is setup manually or it is automatic and check their subnet as well. Those 2 would make it difficult to access net appliances and shares across the network. Regards, On September 19, 2013 at 2:56 PM DSinc wrote: All of my Brother's LAN clients appear to be: WORKGROUP=MSHOME. Is this an OS default? I do know how to change this value. And, all of my Brother's clients are set to get their network specs automatically - the MS Default (like from his router). Fine. When he brings his laptop to my home once a year, he can somehow get to the internet via my router, but he can not get to any of my other LAN services/PC's//appliances. Odd. I used to admin his laptop 'into' my LAN, but this never really fixed everything. Confusing? Is WORKGROUP= ? a router DHCP assigned value? I have recently turned on my router's DHCP server, and the logic seems to work fine. My home LAN and all of my PC clients us WORKGROUP=WORKGROUP (probably from back in Win2K times). All of my PC's and appliances work just fine. If this makes little sense, I apologize. I just had to ask. Duncan Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com timli...@adv-data.com
[H] Again MSHOME vs. WORKGROUP?
All of my Brother's LAN clients appear to be: WORKGROUP=MSHOME. Is this an OS default? I do know how to change this value. And, all of my Brother's clients are set to get their network specs automatically - the MS Default (like from his router). Fine. When he brings his laptop to my home once a year, he can somehow get to the internet via my router, but he can not get to any of my other LAN services/PC's//appliances. Odd. I used to admin his laptop 'into' my LAN, but this never really fixed everything. Confusing? Is WORKGROUP= ? a router DHCP assigned value? I have recently turned on my router's DHCP server, and the logic seems to work fine. My home LAN and all of my PC clients us WORKGROUP=WORKGROUP (probably from back in Win2K times). All of my PC's and appliances work just fine. If this makes little sense, I apologize. I just had to ask. Duncan
Re: [H] 3TB
That's sexy. Must read more. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2013, at 12:01 AM, "Robert Martin Jr." wrote: > What sold me most on the 5N was the ability to add a mSSD in the accelerator > bay, to cache data and speed transfers. I have a Crucial m4 128GB mSATA > Internal Solid State Drive CT128M4SSD3 in mine. Once I added that, the data > transfers are crazy fast. Plus the drobo is 5 bays not 4 like the readynas > NV+. > > lopaka > > > > From: DSinc > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:36 PM > Subject: Re: [H] 3TB > > > Oh! Holy cow! I guess I am still learning how to get my NAS to link up > on my LAN. > I've never tested, but do not think I see this performance. But then, > since completing my > 10base1000 LAN, I have never really tested. Actually, I know not how. I > just move/copy stuff > from my desktop to my NAS, and it goes pretty dang quick! The NAS-to-NAS > backups at Zero-dark-30 > take place at theNAS' own chosen/agreed upon speed. This I never quibble > about. Clearly I might not be > on top of this, but it all works so well for me I just don't worry about > it at all. I own/run these appliances that > are so much smarter than me, but still speak to me in their 'plain > speak' that I treat them as 'family.' Except for > Intel nic cards, my NAS appliances are the most reliable network > devicesI have ever owned. > I know that they use a Debian-based Linux OS so I do not dig into their > guts. No need to. > They just plain workand make digital life a bit better. > NAS-ON everyone! > Duncan > > On 09/19/2013 16:07, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: >> Drobo5N is a completely different beast compared to earlier units. I can >> transfer 20GB in under a couple minutes over network. ReadyNAS NV+ v1 is >> about 4-5x that and the v2 6-7x that >> >> lopaka >> >> >> >>From: Zulfiqar Naushad >> To: "hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com" >> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:46 PM >> Subject: Re: [H] 3TB >> >> >> The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match >> different sizes and it works just fine. >> >> Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance. >> Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today. >> >> I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size >> drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my >> synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything >> just works and works well. >> >> If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand. >> Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface >> and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an >> antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up >> with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I >> come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume. >> >> What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the >> bandwidth to 2Gbps. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc wrote: >> >>> Hi Zool, >>> Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, >>> and, >>> others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more.. >>> I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my >>> 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens. >>> For certain, Synology will be where I move to! All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 >>> and have >>> never dropped a beat in 3 years. I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, >>> any data loss >>> I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS >>> boxes are the PFM >>> part of my home LAN. >>> Best, >>> Duncan >>> >>> On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat. On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, "DSinc" wrote: > Lopaka, > Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. > How do you like your NV+ v2? > I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I > have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. > Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may > try a cloud backup location. For now, I > am very happy with my NAS's. > Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via > Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. > Duncan > > On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: > >> I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 >> mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within >> days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer >> warranty. >> >> >> lopaka >> >> >> >> __**__ >> From:
Re: [H] 3TB
What sold me most on the 5N was the ability to add a mSSD in the accelerator bay, to cache data and speed transfers. I have a Crucial m4 128GB mSATA Internal Solid State Drive CT128M4SSD3 in mine. Once I added that, the data transfers are crazy fast. Plus the drobo is 5 bays not 4 like the readynas NV+. lopaka From: DSinc To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB Oh! Holy cow! I guess I am still learning how to get my NAS to link up on my LAN. I've never tested, but do not think I see this performance. But then, since completing my 10base1000 LAN, I have never really tested. Actually, I know not how. I just move/copy stuff from my desktop to my NAS, and it goes pretty dang quick! The NAS-to-NAS backups at Zero-dark-30 take place at theNAS' own chosen/agreed upon speed. This I never quibble about. Clearly I might not be on top of this, but it all works so well for me I just don't worry about it at all. I own/run these appliances that are so much smarter than me, but still speak to me in their 'plain speak' that I treat them as 'family.' Except for Intel nic cards, my NAS appliances are the most reliable network devicesI have ever owned. I know that they use a Debian-based Linux OS so I do not dig into their guts. No need to. They just plain workand make digital life a bit better. NAS-ON everyone! Duncan On 09/19/2013 16:07, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: > Drobo5N is a completely different beast compared to earlier units. I can > transfer 20GB in under a couple minutes over network. ReadyNAS NV+ v1 is > about 4-5x that and the v2 6-7x that > > lopaka > > > > From: Zulfiqar Naushad > To: "hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com" > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:46 PM > Subject: Re: [H] 3TB > > > The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match > different sizes and it works just fine. > > Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance. > Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today. > > I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size > drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my > synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything > just works and works well. > > If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand. > Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface > and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an > antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up > with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I > come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume. > > What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the > bandwidth to 2Gbps. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc wrote: > >> Hi Zool, >> Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, >> and, >> others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more.. >> I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my >> 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens. >> For certain, Synology will be where I move to! All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 >> and have >> never dropped a beat in 3 years. I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, >> any data loss >> I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS >> boxes are the PFM >> part of my home LAN. >> Best, >> Duncan >> >> On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: >>> Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went >>> with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat. >>> On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, "DSinc" wrote: >>> Lopaka, Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. How do you like your NV+ v2? I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may try a cloud backup location. For now, I am very happy with my NAS's. Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. Duncan On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: > I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 > mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within > days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. > > > lopaka > > > > __**__ > From: Anthony Q. Martin > To: "hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com" > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM > Subject: Re: [H] 3TB > > I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for > this application. >
[H] Firefox problem
My primary browser is Opera but I also am using the latest updated version of Firefox. A month ago I was looking for a TV show I missed and ran a Google search. A torrent came up, and I clicked on it. The torrent never downloaded but ever since, every time I load Firefox the torrent at 0 bytes appears on my desktop which, for Firefox, is the download location. It doesn't appear in download history, or anywhere that I can find but there it is. How do I stop this behavior short of uninstalling Firefox. Thanks
Re: [H] 3TB
Drobo5N is a completely different beast compared to earlier units. I can transfer 20GB in under a couple minutes over network. ReadyNAS NV+ v1 is about 4-5x that and the v2 6-7x that lopaka From: Zulfiqar Naushad To: "hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com" Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match different sizes and it works just fine. Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance. Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today. I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything just works and works well. If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand. Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume. What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the bandwidth to 2Gbps. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc wrote: > Hi Zool, > Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, > and, > others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more.. > I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my > 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens. > For certain, Synology will be where I move to! All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 > and have > never dropped a beat in 3 years. I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, > any data loss > I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS > boxes are the PFM > part of my home LAN. > Best, > Duncan > > On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: >> Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went >> with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat. >> On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, "DSinc" wrote: >> >>> Lopaka, >>> Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. >>> How do you like your NV+ v2? >>> I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I >>> have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. >>> Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may >>> try a cloud backup location. For now, I >>> am very happy with my NAS's. >>> Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via >>> Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. >>> Duncan >>> >>> On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: >>> I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. lopaka __**__ From: Anthony Q. Martin To: "hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com" > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this application. Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight > wrote: > > I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos > oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at > reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any > issues with large 3TB drives? >
Re: [H] 3TB
Oh! Holy cow! I guess I am still learning how to get my NAS to link up on my LAN. I've never tested, but do not think I see this performance. But then, since completing my 10base1000 LAN, I have never really tested. Actually, I know not how. I just move/copy stuff from my desktop to my NAS, and it goes pretty dang quick! The NAS-to-NAS backups at Zero-dark-30 take place at theNAS' own chosen/agreed upon speed. This I never quibble about. Clearly I might not be on top of this, but it all works so well for me I just don't worry about it at all. I own/run these appliances that are so much smarter than me, but still speak to me in their 'plain speak' that I treat them as 'family.' Except for Intel nic cards, my NAS appliances are the most reliable network devicesI have ever owned. I know that they use a Debian-based Linux OS so I do not dig into their guts. No need to. They just plain workand make digital life a bit better. NAS-ON everyone! Duncan On 09/19/2013 16:07, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: Drobo5N is a completely different beast compared to earlier units. I can transfer 20GB in under a couple minutes over network. ReadyNAS NV+ v1 is about 4-5x that and the v2 6-7x that lopaka From: Zulfiqar Naushad To: "hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com" Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match different sizes and it works just fine. Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance. Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today. I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything just works and works well. If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand. Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume. What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the bandwidth to 2Gbps. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc wrote: Hi Zool, Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, and, others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more.. I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens. For certain, Synology will be where I move to! All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 and have never dropped a beat in 3 years. I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, any data loss I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS boxes are the PFM part of my home LAN. Best, Duncan On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat. On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, "DSinc" wrote: Lopaka, Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. How do you like your NV+ v2? I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may try a cloud backup location. For now, I am very happy with my NAS's. Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. Duncan On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. lopaka __**__ From: Anthony Q. Martin To: "hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com" > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this application. Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight wrote: I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB drives?
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I get it. You are a 'super-user.' Don't know about 'hybrid RAID.' I have never tried to fully understand RAID. It is one of those PFM topics! I use XRAID2, which I suppose is Netgear's own. Fine. I have no complaints ATM. My NAS are all 24/7, 365 since birth. No issues. Me, I just store files. I don't do video, torrents, photo-albums, music round-abouts, etc. I'm still a NAS-noob. But since 2009 and my first NAS, I am hooked. My home LAN is NOT complete without an operational NASof some make, model, color, flavor. I have seen the future and it lives and works in my home. Thankyou List. Duncan On 09/19/2013 15:46, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match different sizes and it works just fine. Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance. Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today. I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything just works and works well. If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand. Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume. What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the bandwidth to 2Gbps. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc wrote: Hi Zool, Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, and, others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more.. I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens. For certain, Synology will be where I move to! All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 and have never dropped a beat in 3 years. I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, any data loss I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS boxes are the PFM part of my home LAN. Best, Duncan On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat. On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, "DSinc" wrote: Lopaka, Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. How do you like your NV+ v2? I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may try a cloud backup location. For now, I am very happy with my NAS's. Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. Duncan On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. lopaka __**__ From: Anthony Q. Martin To: "hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com" > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this application. Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight wrote: I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB drives?
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The data loss my my fault on that that one. The UPS I was using was not compatible with the readynas and I knew it, so the unit lost power when the battery ran out. I have only used compatible Ps's since then and have made it through and handful of power outages. lopaka From: DSinc To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB Thanks for the history. Wow! Two NV+. Can I assume that both are 4-drive units? Yes, I've read many threads about 'power outage' issues. And why each of my NAS has its' own UPS. This has been tested 3 times since moving to NW Georgia. We get many Electrical storms thanks to Mother Nature! The NAS shutdown logic has worked perfectly every time the UPS battery went to 50% so far. My plan may not be perfect, but I am still hanging in there. Sorry to hear of the data loss. Bummer. Yes, understand the 'speed issues.' Nothing is ever fast enough is it? Understand the Drobo5N. Drobo is very high in the ReadyNAS community also! Never mind... :) NAS ON Bro! Duncan On 09/19/2013 12:12, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: > I actually have a ReadyNAS NV+ v1 and a v2. The v1 has been running for > years. I've had 1 catastrophic failure after a power outage outlasted the > UPS. Data was completely gone on 2 drives. Rebuilt and it has been running > fine since. I also had to replace the PS on the v1 once so far. > > The NV+ v2 is OK. Seems to have some speed issues when transferring large > files. I'm planning on selling it because I got a good deal on the Drobo5N > and it had large capacity. > > lopaka > > > > From: DSinc > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:03 AM > Subject: Re: [H] 3TB > > > Lopaka, > Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. > How do you like your NV+ v2? > I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. > I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. > Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, > may try a cloud backup location. For now, I > am very happy with my NAS's. > Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum > via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. > Duncan > > On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: >> I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos >> now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but >> the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. >> >> >> lopaka >> >> >> >> >> From: Anthony Q. Martin >> To: "hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [H] 3TB >> >> >> I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this >> application. >> >> Sent from my mobile device. >> >>> On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight >>> wrote: >>> >>> I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither >>> a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and >>> price point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB >>> drives? >>>
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Hey Bro, we ain't perfect. I do so understand. Duncan On 09/19/2013 15:07, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: The data loss my my fault on that that one. The UPS I was using was not compatible with the readynas and I knew it, so the unit lost power when the battery ran out. I have only used compatible Ps's since then and have made it through and handful of power outages. lopaka From: DSinc To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB Thanks for the history. Wow! Two NV+. Can I assume that both are 4-drive units? Yes, I've read many threads about 'power outage' issues. And why each of my NAS has its' own UPS. This has been tested 3 times since moving to NW Georgia. We get many Electrical storms thanks to Mother Nature! The NAS shutdown logic has worked perfectly every time the UPS battery went to 50% so far. My plan may not be perfect, but I am still hanging in there. Sorry to hear of the data loss. Bummer. Yes, understand the 'speed issues.' Nothing is ever fast enough is it? Understand the Drobo5N. Drobo is very high in the ReadyNAS community also! Never mind... :) NAS ON Bro! Duncan On 09/19/2013 12:12, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I actually have a ReadyNAS NV+ v1 and a v2. The v1 has been running for years. I've had 1 catastrophic failure after a power outage outlasted the UPS. Data was completely gone on 2 drives. Rebuilt and it has been running fine since. I also had to replace the PS on the v1 once so far. The NV+ v2 is OK. Seems to have some speed issues when transferring large files. I'm planning on selling it because I got a good deal on the Drobo5N and it had large capacity. lopaka From: DSinc To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:03 AM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB Lopaka, Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. How do you like your NV+ v2? I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may try a cloud backup location. For now, I am very happy with my NAS's. Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. Duncan On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. lopaka From: Anthony Q. Martin To: "hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com" Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this application. Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight wrote: I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB drives?
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The deciding factor for me was the hybrid raid. I mix and match different sizes and it works just fine. Before that I had a drobo. Great features but super slow performance. Gave that to my brother in law as a gift and he uses that till today. I don't think I could deal with traditional raid. Having all same size drives would be a bear to upgrade. It's funny. Almost every bay in my synology has a different brand, size and rotation speed. Everything just works and works well. If the synology ever dies I'm never going to switch to another brand. Love the web os of synology and they keep on improving the interface and adding features. I barely use most of them. I just have an antivirus running and do torrents from the synology. I've set it up with ddns so I can add torrents from my phone wherever I am and once I come home it's sitting there for me ready to consume. What more could I want. I also haven't used port teaming to double the bandwidth to 2Gbps. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:48 PM, DSinc wrote: > Hi Zool, > Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, > and, > others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more.. > I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my > 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens. > For certain, Synology will be where I move to! All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 > and have > never dropped a beat in 3 years. I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, > any data loss > I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS > boxes are the PFM > part of my home LAN. > Best, > Duncan > > On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: >> Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went >> with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat. >> On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, "DSinc" wrote: >> >>> Lopaka, >>> Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. >>> How do you like your NV+ v2? >>> I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I >>> have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. >>> Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may >>> try a cloud backup location. For now, I >>> am very happy with my NAS's. >>> Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via >>> Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. >>> Duncan >>> >>> On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: >>> I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. lopaka __**__ From: Anthony Q. Martin To: "hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com" > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this application. Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight > wrote: > > I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos > oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at > reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any > issues with large 3TB drives? >
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Thanks for the history. Wow! Two NV+. Can I assume that both are 4-drive units? Yes, I've read many threads about 'power outage' issues. And why each of my NAS has its' own UPS. This has been tested 3 times since moving to NW Georgia. We get many Electrical storms thanks to Mother Nature! The NAS shutdown logic has worked perfectly every time the UPS battery went to 50% so far. My plan may not be perfect, but I am still hanging in there. Sorry to hear of the data loss. Bummer. Yes, understand the 'speed issues.' Nothing is ever fast enough is it? Understand the Drobo5N. Drobo is very high in the ReadyNAS community also! Never mind... :) NAS ON Bro! Duncan On 09/19/2013 12:12, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I actually have a ReadyNAS NV+ v1 and a v2. The v1 has been running for years. I've had 1 catastrophic failure after a power outage outlasted the UPS. Data was completely gone on 2 drives. Rebuilt and it has been running fine since. I also had to replace the PS on the v1 once so far. The NV+ v2 is OK. Seems to have some speed issues when transferring large files. I'm planning on selling it because I got a good deal on the Drobo5N and it had large capacity. lopaka From: DSinc To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:03 AM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB Lopaka, Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. How do you like your NV+ v2? I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may try a cloud backup location. For now, I am very happy with my NAS's. Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. Duncan On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. lopaka From: Anthony Q. Martin To: "hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com" Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this application. Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight wrote: I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB drives?
Re: [H] 3TB
I actually have a ReadyNAS NV+ v1 and a v2. The v1 has been running for years. I've had 1 catastrophic failure after a power outage outlasted the UPS. Data was completely gone on 2 drives. Rebuilt and it has been running fine since. I also had to replace the PS on the v1 once so far. The NV+ v2 is OK. Seems to have some speed issues when transferring large files. I'm planning on selling it because I got a good deal on the Drobo5N and it had large capacity. lopaka From: DSinc To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:03 AM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB Lopaka, Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. How do you like your NV+ v2? I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may try a cloud backup location. For now, I am very happy with my NAS's. Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. Duncan On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: > I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos > now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but > the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. > > > lopaka > > > > > From: Anthony Q. Martin > To: "hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com" > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM > Subject: Re: [H] 3TB > > > I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this > application. > > Sent from my mobile device. > >> On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight wrote: >> >> I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a >> Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and >> price point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB >> drives? >>
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On 2013-09-17 13:09, Thane Sherrington wrote: Anyone have any recommendations for good touch screen monitors with a 2 or 3 year warranty? Anything from 20" to 27" would be great. T Avoid the HP ones. The USB host on them disconnects often so you have to unplug and plug them back in repeatedly.
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Hi Zool, Yes, several in the ReadyNAS community seem to be moving to Synology, QNAP, and, others. Fine. Different strokes for different folks! Nothing more.. I've studied, thought, played with numbers, and decided to stay with my 3 ReadyNAS boxes until something serious happens. For certain, Synology will be where I move to! All of my ReadyNAS run 24/7 and have never dropped a beat in 3 years. I still wait for my 1st HD failure! And, any data loss I have suffered has been totally 'pilot error' (mine!). I'm good. My NAS boxes are the PFM part of my home LAN. Best, Duncan On 09/19/2013 08:28, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat. On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, "DSinc" wrote: Lopaka, Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. How do you like your NV+ v2? I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may try a cloud backup location. For now, I am very happy with my NAS's. Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. Duncan On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. lopaka __**__ From: Anthony Q. Martin To: "hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com" > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this application. Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight wrote: I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB drives?
Re: [H] 3TB
Ready nas are great. It was between that and the synology for me and I went with the latter. 3 years on and its still hasn't skipped a beat. On Sep 19, 2013 3:03 PM, "DSinc" wrote: > Lopaka, > Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. > How do you like your NV+ v2? > I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I > have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. > Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may > try a cloud backup location. For now, I > am very happy with my NAS's. > Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via > Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. > Duncan > > On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: > >> I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 >> mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within >> days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. >> >> >> lopaka >> >> >> >> __**__ >> From: Anthony Q. Martin >> To: "hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**com" >> > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [H] 3TB >> >> I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for >> this application. >> >> Sent from my mobile device. >> >> On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight >>> wrote: >>> >>> I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos >>> oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at >>> reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any >>> issues with large 3TB drives? >>> >>> >
Re: [H] 3TB
Lopaka, Never knew you had a ReadyNAS! Silly me. How do you like your NV+ v2? I started with a DUO-v1 in 2009. I can blame John Steinbruner for that. I have added an Ultra 2 and an Ultra 2+. Just now I stay local. In the future I may off-site one of my NAS, or, may try a cloud backup location. For now, I am very happy with my NAS's. Everything I've ever learned about NAS has been viathe ReadyNAS forum via Netgear. Lots of really smart folk there. Duncan On 09/18/2013 20:48, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I've got five 4TB Seagate drives in a Drobo5N. All working well about 5 mos now. I have 4 WD 3TB reds in a ReadyNAS NV+ v2. I had 1 die within days, but the replacement is fine. The reds have a better-longer warranty. lopaka From: Anthony Q. Martin To: "hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com" Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [H] 3TB I have at least 10 of them running in my movie box. They work fine for this application. Sent from my mobile device. On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Winterlight wrote: I want to get one or more 3TB desktop drives to store videos oneither a Seagate or WD ... maybe a WD Red. I am really looking at reliability and price point rather then performance. Anybody have any issues with large 3TB drives?