Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues
I've had a couple older laptops with heat issues (the P4 HP comes to mind) and the monitoring software (I use speedfan and cpu-z too) didn't always show much issue. Normally I have 2 ways I'd check if it was heat related. I have a couple mini fans made for laptops that have adjustable clamps to hold them over the small fan exhaust ports and a thin retractable usb plug to power them. On my old P4, if I ran that extra blower fan all the issues I normally had went away. The other would be to use one of those thin metal laptop stands that have a couple movable fans so you can adjust them for where the intake grates are on the laptop. lopaka On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: > So I see I don't have the Creator's Update as I'm still on the Anniversary > Update at: > > Version 1607 build 14393.1358 > > Hmm, maybe I should try and get another OEM power brick and start using it > and see if the problems go away... > > > Heat-wise what would you use to monitor lopaka? I've got SpeedFan 4.52 > installed and it's not seeming as informative as I remember-just with my > laptop sitting on my desk, with my house at an ambient 72F, it's showing: > > GPU: 0C > Temp: 1C > HD0: 35C > HD1: 47C (going up) > Temp1: 57C (not sure what that is) > Temp2: 28C > Temp3: 30C > Core 0: 38C > Core 1: 39C > > Thoughts? > > > -Original Message- > From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On > Behalf Of lopaka polena > Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 12:40 PM > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues > > My gut thought would always be power (whether the brick or something > internal) or heat with a laptop, then windows update issue because there > have been a few I've seen recently associated with the win 10 creators > update > > lopaka > > On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Steve Tomporowski > wrote: > > > What I was thinking was that the power adapter is going bad, and just > > like a flaky power supply in a desktop, causes weird things to happen. > > > > > > On 7/6/2017 3:06 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: > > > >> I was wondering if it was Win10...and note I had it from 3/15/17 to > >> 5/11/17 with no issues...and it didn't lockup again until 6/4/17 and > >> it's been occurring with more frequency... > >> > >> But I haven't been prompted for the Creators Update which I heard was > >> very bad...unless of course it fixed my problem for me...this is so > >> random and unpredictable, it's very frustrating! > >> > >> And note in my case it's definitely a hard, complete lockup and > >> holding the power button until it reboots is the only way to recover... > >> > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On > >> Behalf Of Winterlight > >> Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 11:56 AM > >> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > >> Subject: Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues > >> > >> > >> I have had similar experiences with my Lenovo quadcore laptop. > >> Sometimes it goes to sleep even though I have set it up not to go to > >> sleep when plugged in. I have to hold the power button to wake bring > >> it back to usability . I think you have a Win 10 issue I have a > >> lot of issues with Win 10 that I am waiting for fixes to show up. > or not. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> At 12:49 PM 7/6/2017, you wrote: > >> > >>> Doubt it's heat-while it has a 1060 in it I wasn't using it for > >>> gaming > >>> *any* of those times, and there were plenty of times I was running > >>> Mad Max at 1080p, and a couple times at 4k even and I could hear the > >>> fans spin up and it def get hot, but it never had problems then...in > >>> fact, when I had the two issues in quick succession on > >>> 6/22 it was in my lap on a tray and I had a fan blowing on it and I > >>> thought it was b/c I got it too cold or something like that > actually...! > >>> > >>> Power...it's been plugged into the same third party power block that > >>> Xoticpc sold me with the laptop (thing is massive) and it was on my > >>> desk the other times...I just leave it plugged in and on so it stays > >>> fully charged...are you thinking surges? It's plugged into a strip... > >>> > >>> Any other ideas anyone? :P > >>> BINO > >>> > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On > >>> Behalf Of Joe User > >>> Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 4:45 AM > >>> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > >>> Subject: Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup > >>> issues > >>> > >>> Heat or Power? > >>> > >>> > >>> On 7/5/2017 7:39 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: > >>> > Hey guys, really hoping someone has the trick to solve this here... > > Got a new latest and greatest MSI gaming laptop (GS73VR 7RF) with > > >>> Win10 Pro a couple months ago from XoticPC who did a c
Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues
So I see I don't have the Creator's Update as I'm still on the Anniversary Update at: Version 1607 build 14393.1358 Hmm, maybe I should try and get another OEM power brick and start using it and see if the problems go away... Heat-wise what would you use to monitor lopaka? I've got SpeedFan 4.52 installed and it's not seeming as informative as I remember-just with my laptop sitting on my desk, with my house at an ambient 72F, it's showing: GPU: 0C Temp: 1C HD0: 35C HD1: 47C (going up) Temp1: 57C (not sure what that is) Temp2: 28C Temp3: 30C Core 0: 38C Core 1: 39C Thoughts? -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of lopaka polena Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 12:40 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues My gut thought would always be power (whether the brick or something internal) or heat with a laptop, then windows update issue because there have been a few I've seen recently associated with the win 10 creators update lopaka On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Steve Tomporowski wrote: > What I was thinking was that the power adapter is going bad, and just > like a flaky power supply in a desktop, causes weird things to happen. > > > On 7/6/2017 3:06 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: > >> I was wondering if it was Win10...and note I had it from 3/15/17 to >> 5/11/17 with no issues...and it didn't lockup again until 6/4/17 and >> it's been occurring with more frequency... >> >> But I haven't been prompted for the Creators Update which I heard was >> very bad...unless of course it fixed my problem for me...this is so >> random and unpredictable, it's very frustrating! >> >> And note in my case it's definitely a hard, complete lockup and >> holding the power button until it reboots is the only way to recover... >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On >> Behalf Of Winterlight >> Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 11:56 AM >> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com >> Subject: Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues >> >> >> I have had similar experiences with my Lenovo quadcore laptop. >> Sometimes it goes to sleep even though I have set it up not to go to >> sleep when plugged in. I have to hold the power button to wake bring >> it back to usability . I think you have a Win 10 issue I have a >> lot of issues with Win 10 that I am waiting for fixes to show up. or not. >> >> >> >> >> At 12:49 PM 7/6/2017, you wrote: >> >>> Doubt it's heat-while it has a 1060 in it I wasn't using it for >>> gaming >>> *any* of those times, and there were plenty of times I was running >>> Mad Max at 1080p, and a couple times at 4k even and I could hear the >>> fans spin up and it def get hot, but it never had problems then...in >>> fact, when I had the two issues in quick succession on >>> 6/22 it was in my lap on a tray and I had a fan blowing on it and I >>> thought it was b/c I got it too cold or something like that actually...! >>> >>> Power...it's been plugged into the same third party power block that >>> Xoticpc sold me with the laptop (thing is massive) and it was on my >>> desk the other times...I just leave it plugged in and on so it stays >>> fully charged...are you thinking surges? It's plugged into a strip... >>> >>> Any other ideas anyone? :P >>> BINO >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On >>> Behalf Of Joe User >>> Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 4:45 AM >>> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com >>> Subject: Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup >>> issues >>> >>> Heat or Power? >>> >>> >>> On 7/5/2017 7:39 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: >>> Hey guys, really hoping someone has the trick to solve this here... Got a new latest and greatest MSI gaming laptop (GS73VR 7RF) with >>> Win10 Pro a couple months ago from XoticPC who did a couple >>> customizations for me-received 3/15/17. I thought last month that >>> it started locking up on me-no response except if I hold the power >>> button down and shut it off and then power it up. >>> It started happening more frequently a couple weeks ago when it >>> did this 4x in the same week! I contacted XoticPC, who said to just >>> restore the OS-but I haven't really installed that much and would >>> rather figure out the problem (if I can) before I reinstall and run >>> into it again. >>> >>> Interestingly after the second lockup on 6/22 which happened only >>> 3 mins after the first one that day, the second one on 6/26 happened >>> only 6 seconds after boot if I'm reading these timestamps >>> right...though I didn't notice until the next day, which is when I >>> rebooted. >>> Anyway, any ideas? Anyone seen this before? Any help or >>> su
Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues
My gut thought would always be power (whether the brick or something internal) or heat with a laptop, then windows update issue because there have been a few I've seen recently associated with the win 10 creators update lopaka On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Steve Tomporowski wrote: > What I was thinking was that the power adapter is going bad, and just like > a flaky power supply in a desktop, causes weird things to happen. > > > On 7/6/2017 3:06 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: > >> I was wondering if it was Win10...and note I had it from 3/15/17 to >> 5/11/17 with no issues...and it didn't lockup again until 6/4/17 and it's >> been occurring with more frequency... >> >> But I haven't been prompted for the Creators Update which I heard was >> very bad...unless of course it fixed my problem for me...this is so random >> and unpredictable, it's very frustrating! >> >> And note in my case it's definitely a hard, complete lockup and holding >> the power button until it reboots is the only way to recover... >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On >> Behalf Of Winterlight >> Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 11:56 AM >> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com >> Subject: Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues >> >> >> I have had similar experiences with my Lenovo quadcore laptop. >> Sometimes it goes to sleep even though I have set it up not to go to >> sleep when plugged in. I have to hold the power button to wake bring it >> back to usability . I think you have a Win 10 issue I have a lot of >> issues with Win 10 that I am waiting for fixes to show up. or not. >> >> >> >> >> At 12:49 PM 7/6/2017, you wrote: >> >>> Doubt it's heat-while it has a 1060 in it I wasn't using it for gaming >>> *any* of those times, and there were plenty of times I was running Mad >>> Max at 1080p, and a couple times at 4k even and I could hear the fans >>> spin up and it def get hot, but it never had problems then...in fact, >>> when I had the two issues in quick succession on >>> 6/22 it was in my lap on a tray and I had a fan blowing on it and I >>> thought it was b/c I got it too cold or something like that actually...! >>> >>> Power...it's been plugged into the same third party power block that >>> Xoticpc sold me with the laptop (thing is massive) and it was on my >>> desk the other times...I just leave it plugged in and on so it stays >>> fully charged...are you thinking surges? It's plugged into a strip... >>> >>> Any other ideas anyone? :P >>> BINO >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On >>> Behalf Of Joe User >>> Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 4:45 AM >>> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com >>> Subject: Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues >>> >>> Heat or Power? >>> >>> >>> On 7/5/2017 7:39 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: >>> Hey guys, really hoping someone has the trick to solve this here... Got a new latest and greatest MSI gaming laptop (GS73VR 7RF) with >>> Win10 Pro a couple months ago from XoticPC who did a couple >>> customizations for me-received 3/15/17. I thought last month that it >>> started locking up on me-no response except if I hold the power button >>> down and shut it off and then power it up. >>> It started happening more frequently a couple weeks ago when it >>> did this 4x in the same week! I contacted XoticPC, who said to just >>> restore the OS-but I haven't really installed that much and would >>> rather figure out the problem (if I can) before I reinstall and run >>> into it again. >>> >>> Interestingly after the second lockup on 6/22 which happened only >>> 3 mins after the first one that day, the second one on 6/26 happened >>> only 6 seconds after boot if I'm reading these timestamps >>> right...though I didn't notice until the next day, which is when I >>> rebooted. >>> Anyway, any ideas? Anyone seen this before? Any help or >>> suggestions much appreciated! >>> BINO >>> >> > >
Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues
Didn't you just buy it? If it is a hardware issue then it is under warranty...right? Let the manufacture / vendor figure it out. Can't you just install a backup that brings it back to new. At that point you would know if you had a hardware or software issue. If everything is back to normal after the restore then it is a software issue probably a win 10 update in the last few months. At 01:06 PM 7/6/2017, you wrote: I was wondering if it was Win10...and note I had it from 3/15/17 to 5/11/17 with no issues...and it didn't lockup again until 6/4/17 and it's been occurring with more frequency... But I haven't been prompted for the Creators Update which I heard was very bad...unless of course it fixed my problem for me...this is so random and unpredictable, it's very frustrating! And note in my case it's definitely a hard, complete lockup and holding the power button until it reboots is the only way to recover... -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 11:56 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues I have had similar experiences with my Lenovo quadcore laptop. Sometimes it goes to sleep even though I have set it up not to go to sleep when plugged in. I have to hold the power button to wake bring it back to usability . I think you have a Win 10 issue I have a lot of issues with Win 10 that I am waiting for fixes to show up. or not. At 12:49 PM 7/6/2017, you wrote: >Doubt it's heat-while it has a 1060 in it I wasn't using it for gaming >*any* of those times, and there were plenty of times I was running Mad >Max at 1080p, and a couple times at 4k even and I could hear the fans >spin up and it def get hot, but it never had problems then...in fact, >when I had the two issues in quick succession on >6/22 it was in my lap on a tray and I had a fan blowing on it and I >thought it was b/c I got it too cold or something like that actually...! > >Power...it's been plugged into the same third party power block that >Xoticpc sold me with the laptop (thing is massive) and it was on my >desk the other times...I just leave it plugged in and on so it stays >fully charged...are you thinking surges? It's plugged into a strip... > >Any other ideas anyone? :P > BINO > > >-Original Message- >From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On >Behalf Of Joe User >Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 4:45 AM >To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com >Subject: Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues > >Heat or Power? > > >On 7/5/2017 7:39 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: > > Hey guys, really hoping someone has the trick to solve this here... > > > > Got a new latest and greatest MSI gaming laptop (GS73VR 7RF) with > Win10 Pro a couple months ago from XoticPC who did a couple > customizations for me-received 3/15/17. I thought last month that it > started locking up on me-no response except if I hold the power button > down and shut it off and then power it up. > > > > It started happening more frequently a couple weeks ago when it > did this 4x in the same week! I contacted XoticPC, who said to just > restore the OS-but I haven't really installed that much and would > rather figure out the problem (if I can) before I reinstall and run > into it again. > > > Interestingly after the second lockup on 6/22 which happened only > 3 mins after the first one that day, the second one on 6/26 happened > only 6 seconds after boot if I'm reading these timestamps > right...though I didn't notice until the next day, which is when I rebooted. > > > > Anyway, any ideas? Anyone seen this before? Any help or > suggestions much appreciated! > > > > > BINO > >
Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues
What I was thinking was that the power adapter is going bad, and just like a flaky power supply in a desktop, causes weird things to happen. On 7/6/2017 3:06 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: I was wondering if it was Win10...and note I had it from 3/15/17 to 5/11/17 with no issues...and it didn't lockup again until 6/4/17 and it's been occurring with more frequency... But I haven't been prompted for the Creators Update which I heard was very bad...unless of course it fixed my problem for me...this is so random and unpredictable, it's very frustrating! And note in my case it's definitely a hard, complete lockup and holding the power button until it reboots is the only way to recover... -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 11:56 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues I have had similar experiences with my Lenovo quadcore laptop. Sometimes it goes to sleep even though I have set it up not to go to sleep when plugged in. I have to hold the power button to wake bring it back to usability . I think you have a Win 10 issue I have a lot of issues with Win 10 that I am waiting for fixes to show up. or not. At 12:49 PM 7/6/2017, you wrote: Doubt it's heat-while it has a 1060 in it I wasn't using it for gaming *any* of those times, and there were plenty of times I was running Mad Max at 1080p, and a couple times at 4k even and I could hear the fans spin up and it def get hot, but it never had problems then...in fact, when I had the two issues in quick succession on 6/22 it was in my lap on a tray and I had a fan blowing on it and I thought it was b/c I got it too cold or something like that actually...! Power...it's been plugged into the same third party power block that Xoticpc sold me with the laptop (thing is massive) and it was on my desk the other times...I just leave it plugged in and on so it stays fully charged...are you thinking surges? It's plugged into a strip... Any other ideas anyone? :P BINO -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Joe User Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 4:45 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues Heat or Power? On 7/5/2017 7:39 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: Hey guys, really hoping someone has the trick to solve this here... Got a new latest and greatest MSI gaming laptop (GS73VR 7RF) with Win10 Pro a couple months ago from XoticPC who did a couple customizations for me-received 3/15/17. I thought last month that it started locking up on me-no response except if I hold the power button down and shut it off and then power it up. It started happening more frequently a couple weeks ago when it did this 4x in the same week! I contacted XoticPC, who said to just restore the OS-but I haven't really installed that much and would rather figure out the problem (if I can) before I reinstall and run into it again. Interestingly after the second lockup on 6/22 which happened only 3 mins after the first one that day, the second one on 6/26 happened only 6 seconds after boot if I'm reading these timestamps right...though I didn't notice until the next day, which is when I rebooted. Anyway, any ideas? Anyone seen this before? Any help or suggestions much appreciated! BINO
Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues
I was wondering if it was Win10...and note I had it from 3/15/17 to 5/11/17 with no issues...and it didn't lockup again until 6/4/17 and it's been occurring with more frequency... But I haven't been prompted for the Creators Update which I heard was very bad...unless of course it fixed my problem for me...this is so random and unpredictable, it's very frustrating! And note in my case it's definitely a hard, complete lockup and holding the power button until it reboots is the only way to recover... -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 11:56 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues I have had similar experiences with my Lenovo quadcore laptop. Sometimes it goes to sleep even though I have set it up not to go to sleep when plugged in. I have to hold the power button to wake bring it back to usability . I think you have a Win 10 issue I have a lot of issues with Win 10 that I am waiting for fixes to show up. or not. At 12:49 PM 7/6/2017, you wrote: >Doubt it's heat-while it has a 1060 in it I wasn't using it for gaming >*any* of those times, and there were plenty of times I was running Mad >Max at 1080p, and a couple times at 4k even and I could hear the fans >spin up and it def get hot, but it never had problems then...in fact, >when I had the two issues in quick succession on >6/22 it was in my lap on a tray and I had a fan blowing on it and I >thought it was b/c I got it too cold or something like that actually...! > >Power...it's been plugged into the same third party power block that >Xoticpc sold me with the laptop (thing is massive) and it was on my >desk the other times...I just leave it plugged in and on so it stays >fully charged...are you thinking surges? It's plugged into a strip... > >Any other ideas anyone? :P > BINO > > >-Original Message- >From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On >Behalf Of Joe User >Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 4:45 AM >To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com >Subject: Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues > >Heat or Power? > > >On 7/5/2017 7:39 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: > > Hey guys, really hoping someone has the trick to solve this here... > > > > Got a new latest and greatest MSI gaming laptop (GS73VR 7RF) with > Win10 Pro a couple months ago from XoticPC who did a couple > customizations for me-received 3/15/17. I thought last month that it > started locking up on me-no response except if I hold the power button > down and shut it off and then power it up. > > > > It started happening more frequently a couple weeks ago when it > did this 4x in the same week! I contacted XoticPC, who said to just > restore the OS-but I haven't really installed that much and would > rather figure out the problem (if I can) before I reinstall and run > into it again. > > > Interestingly after the second lockup on 6/22 which happened only > 3 mins after the first one that day, the second one on 6/26 happened > only 6 seconds after boot if I'm reading these timestamps > right...though I didn't notice until the next day, which is when I rebooted. > > > > Anyway, any ideas? Anyone seen this before? Any help or > suggestions much appreciated! > > > > > BINO > >
Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues
Hmmm, I guess it has been on the power brick b/c it's been on the desk or in my lap in the living room...and h, to be clear I wasn't using that power brick for a while, but instead using the one that came with the laptop from MSI which is much smaller and portable-so I usually take that one with me...I don't remember the exact date I started using the 3rd party one (pwr-plus.com)...I never thought of the charger causing issues...and it's so intermittent...guess I could switch back to using the OEM one and see if the lockups stop... Nothing I can check in Windows to see if there's more info about this? Weird power spikes/surges? Any third party tools I can run? Physical instrumentation I can use to check? Not much of an EE myself unfortunately... Btw, I do see some weird processor speed limitation messages in the Event Viewer...don't think they're related but anyone know what this is about?! Shows up as Level: Warning, Source: Kernel-Processor-Power (MS-Win-K-P-P), Event ID: 37, Task category: (7) -The speed of processor 0 in group 0 is being limited by system firmware. The processor has been in this reduced performance state for 1 seconds since the last report. I have 8 of those messages, one for each core, 0-7 after every restart...maybe that's causing the random lockups and I need to fix that maybe...? BINO -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tomporowski Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 11:55 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues Was it on the power brick every time it locked up? Does it lock up when you are only on battery? On 7/6/2017 2:49 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: > Doubt it's heat-while it has a 1060 in it I wasn't using it for gaming *any* > of those times, and there were plenty of times I was running Mad Max at > 1080p, and a couple times at 4k even and I could hear the fans spin up and it > def get hot, but it never had problems then...in fact, when I had the two > issues in quick succession on 6/22 it was in my lap on a tray and I had a fan > blowing on it and I thought it was b/c I got it too cold or something like > that actually...! > > Power...it's been plugged into the same third party power block that Xoticpc > sold me with the laptop (thing is massive) and it was on my desk the other > times...I just leave it plugged in and on so it stays fully charged...are you > thinking surges? It's plugged into a strip... > > Any other ideas anyone? :P > BINO > > > -Original Message- > From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On > Behalf Of Joe User > Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 4:45 AM > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues > > Heat or Power? > > > On 7/5/2017 7:39 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: >> Hey guys, really hoping someone has the trick to solve this here... >> >> Got a new latest and greatest MSI gaming laptop (GS73VR 7RF) with Win10 Pro >> a couple months ago from XoticPC who did a couple customizations for >> me-received 3/15/17. I thought last month that it started locking up on >> me-no response except if I hold the power button down and shut it off and >> then power it up. >> >> It started happening more frequently a couple weeks ago when it did this 4x >> in the same week! I contacted XoticPC, who said to just restore the OS-but >> I haven't really installed that much and would rather figure out the problem >> (if I can) before I reinstall and run into it again. >> Interestingly after the second lockup on 6/22 which happened only 3 mins >> after the first one that day, the second one on 6/26 happened only 6 seconds >> after boot if I'm reading these timestamps right...though I didn't notice >> until the next day, which is when I rebooted. >> >> Anyway, any ideas? Anyone seen this before? Any help or suggestions much >> appreciated! >> >> >> >> BINO >>
Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues
I have had similar experiences with my Lenovo quadcore laptop. Sometimes it goes to sleep even though I have set it up not to go to sleep when plugged in. I have to hold the power button to wake bring it back to usability . I think you have a Win 10 issue I have a lot of issues with Win 10 that I am waiting for fixes to show up. or not. At 12:49 PM 7/6/2017, you wrote: Doubt it's heat-while it has a 1060 in it I wasn't using it for gaming *any* of those times, and there were plenty of times I was running Mad Max at 1080p, and a couple times at 4k even and I could hear the fans spin up and it def get hot, but it never had problems then...in fact, when I had the two issues in quick succession on 6/22 it was in my lap on a tray and I had a fan blowing on it and I thought it was b/c I got it too cold or something like that actually...! Power...it's been plugged into the same third party power block that Xoticpc sold me with the laptop (thing is massive) and it was on my desk the other times...I just leave it plugged in and on so it stays fully charged...are you thinking surges? It's plugged into a strip... Any other ideas anyone? :P BINO -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Joe User Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 4:45 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues Heat or Power? On 7/5/2017 7:39 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: > Hey guys, really hoping someone has the trick to solve this here... > > Got a new latest and greatest MSI gaming laptop (GS73VR 7RF) with Win10 Pro a couple months ago from XoticPC who did a couple customizations for me-received 3/15/17. I thought last month that it started locking up on me-no response except if I hold the power button down and shut it off and then power it up. > > It started happening more frequently a couple weeks ago when it did this 4x in the same week! I contacted XoticPC, who said to just restore the OS-but I haven't really installed that much and would rather figure out the problem (if I can) before I reinstall and run into it again. > Interestingly after the second lockup on 6/22 which happened only 3 mins after the first one that day, the second one on 6/26 happened only 6 seconds after boot if I'm reading these timestamps right...though I didn't notice until the next day, which is when I rebooted. > > Anyway, any ideas? Anyone seen this before? Any help or suggestions much appreciated! > > BINO >
Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues
Was it on the power brick every time it locked up? Does it lock up when you are only on battery? On 7/6/2017 2:49 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: Doubt it's heat-while it has a 1060 in it I wasn't using it for gaming *any* of those times, and there were plenty of times I was running Mad Max at 1080p, and a couple times at 4k even and I could hear the fans spin up and it def get hot, but it never had problems then...in fact, when I had the two issues in quick succession on 6/22 it was in my lap on a tray and I had a fan blowing on it and I thought it was b/c I got it too cold or something like that actually...! Power...it's been plugged into the same third party power block that Xoticpc sold me with the laptop (thing is massive) and it was on my desk the other times...I just leave it plugged in and on so it stays fully charged...are you thinking surges? It's plugged into a strip... Any other ideas anyone? :P BINO -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Joe User Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 4:45 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues Heat or Power? On 7/5/2017 7:39 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: Hey guys, really hoping someone has the trick to solve this here... Got a new latest and greatest MSI gaming laptop (GS73VR 7RF) with Win10 Pro a couple months ago from XoticPC who did a couple customizations for me-received 3/15/17. I thought last month that it started locking up on me-no response except if I hold the power button down and shut it off and then power it up. It started happening more frequently a couple weeks ago when it did this 4x in the same week! I contacted XoticPC, who said to just restore the OS-but I haven't really installed that much and would rather figure out the problem (if I can) before I reinstall and run into it again. Interestingly after the second lockup on 6/22 which happened only 3 mins after the first one that day, the second one on 6/26 happened only 6 seconds after boot if I'm reading these timestamps right...though I didn't notice until the next day, which is when I rebooted. Anyway, any ideas? Anyone seen this before? Any help or suggestions much appreciated! BINO
Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues
Doubt it's heat-while it has a 1060 in it I wasn't using it for gaming *any* of those times, and there were plenty of times I was running Mad Max at 1080p, and a couple times at 4k even and I could hear the fans spin up and it def get hot, but it never had problems then...in fact, when I had the two issues in quick succession on 6/22 it was in my lap on a tray and I had a fan blowing on it and I thought it was b/c I got it too cold or something like that actually...! Power...it's been plugged into the same third party power block that Xoticpc sold me with the laptop (thing is massive) and it was on my desk the other times...I just leave it plugged in and on so it stays fully charged...are you thinking surges? It's plugged into a strip... Any other ideas anyone? :P BINO -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Joe User Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 4:45 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues Heat or Power? On 7/5/2017 7:39 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: > Hey guys, really hoping someone has the trick to solve this here... > > Got a new latest and greatest MSI gaming laptop (GS73VR 7RF) with Win10 Pro a > couple months ago from XoticPC who did a couple customizations for > me-received 3/15/17. I thought last month that it started locking up on > me-no response except if I hold the power button down and shut it off and > then power it up. > > It started happening more frequently a couple weeks ago when it did this 4x > in the same week! I contacted XoticPC, who said to just restore the OS-but I > haven't really installed that much and would rather figure out the problem > (if I can) before I reinstall and run into it again. > Interestingly after the second lockup on 6/22 which happened only 3 mins > after the first one that day, the second one on 6/26 happened only 6 seconds > after boot if I'm reading these timestamps right...though I didn't notice > until the next day, which is when I rebooted. > > Anyway, any ideas? Anyone seen this before? Any help or suggestions much > appreciated! > > >BINO >
Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation
Android and devices should always be approached from the "is there a community modding it" perspective. And no, Apple is a terrible choice even if it's the best fit because they are a terrible company, building crap (from a hardware perspective) and actively preventing repairs & recycling. On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Al E. Gator wrote: > Thanks lopaka. eBay is full of used FireHd of all sizes. Any particular > generation/size to go for? > TIA, > Al > > From: lopaka polena > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 4:42 PM > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Android Tablet Recommendation > > If you're not against modding/flashing ROMs, the fire tablet (special > offers version with ads) can be had for around $39 each and flashed with > cyanogenROM. I've got 2 and for the money they are crazy good once you > remove amazons ROM and ads and put cynanogen on there :) > > lopaka > > On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Al E. Gator > wrote: > > > > > Looking to but an inexpensive Android tablet to play with. So much on the > > market, it’s hard to choose. Any help? > > https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item= > > 9SIA4TX5UD5025&ignorebbr=1 > > > > Thx, > > Al > > > >
Re: [H] Help! Bino MSI Win10 Pro laptop random lockup issues
Heat or Power? On 7/5/2017 7:39 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: Hey guys, really hoping someone has the trick to solve this here… Got a new latest and greatest MSI gaming laptop (GS73VR 7RF) with Win10 Pro a couple months ago from XoticPC who did a couple customizations for me-received 3/15/17. I thought last month that it started locking up on me-no response except if I hold the power button down and shut it off and then power it up. It started happening more frequently a couple weeks ago when it did this 4x in the same week! I contacted XoticPC, who said to just restore the OS-but I haven’t really installed that much and would rather figure out the problem (if I can) before I reinstall and run into it again. Interestingly after the second lockup on 6/22 which happened only 3 mins after the first one that day, the second one on 6/26 happened only 6 seconds after boot if I’m reading these timestamps right…though I didn’t notice until the next day, which is when I rebooted. Anyway, any ideas? Anyone seen this before? Any help or suggestions much appreciated! BINO
