Re: [H] Dead Drobo FS?
Yeah I went there and they're all like $40-50. As my friend pointed out, he told me to test the PS with my voltmeter and putting the red inside and the black on the outside and when I did I was getting zero voltage from the end that plugs into the Drobo! I then took the cord from the outlet and checked the two prongs on AC that was going into the brick and was getting 120V! So power was flowing to the brick, but not out of the brick-so it was the PS that was dead (at least). Just to be sure I also checked the 19.5V PS for my laptop (a bad-ass MSI gaming laptop that draws 9.23A which is why it probably never works on the damn plane b/c it draws too much juice!) and it registered 19.5V as it should...so pretty clear it's the Drobo PS (at least-guess the enclosure could still be fried but won't know for sure until I replace the PS to check!) The sad thing is I'd bought a Drobo FS enclosure from a dude on ebay for $100 (which is pretty cheap since most were going for $200-300 as I'd made an offer for $100 and he instantly accepted it-along with $17 shipping) but I'm pretty sure I don't need it now so I cancelled the order and am trying to make sure that he doesn't ship it out-and while he was super fast to respond to the offer he hasn't responded to the request yet...which makes me wonder if he's going to try to send it out and stick me with it...not the worst since it was only $100 but still... And the PS that say they're for the Drobo are ~$40. My friend pointed out that I just need to get one that outputs the same amps at the right voltage (8.33A at 12V), so I found this and offered $9 and let's see if it works! It should right? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Quality-12V-DC-8A-8-amp-96W-POWER-Supply-ADAPTER-Transformer-for-LED-Strip-CCTV/162294980793 If he doesn't accept the offer I'll just buy it at the $11 full price lol! :P BINO -Original Message- From: Hardware On Behalf Of lopaka polena Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 4:38 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Dead Drobo FS? I have a drobo 5N as the backup for my synology 1518+. Drobo is faster on large transfers but synology support is much better and longer. I'd guess the power supply is probably what went out but it would be a bummer to buy one and have the main unit as the culprit. Any used power supplies on ebay? lopaka On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 4:10 PM Bino Gopal wrote: > Well so since it seems the list isn't dead, figured I could ask here... > > I have an older Drobo FS that I got from a friend (old network > attached storage model). I had it off for a while while I was redoing > my cabinet and went to power it on and nothing. Zero, zip, zilch no > matter what outlet I try to use. > > So I'm wondering if it's the enclosure or the power supply and > replacement PS are $50-70 online and that seems a waste if it's the > enclosure, so any thoughts? Anyone have a spare Drobo PS lying around > they wouldn't mind sending me? > > And if I was to replace it, what would be the best recommended > replacement? I assume since it's a Drobo proprietary FS I wouldn't be > able to transfer the drives to a regular RAID backup so I'd lose > whatever was on them huh? H, that's not so good... > > Thoughts? > > > BINO > >
Re: [H] Dead Drobo FS?
I have a drobo 5N as the backup for my synology 1518+. Drobo is faster on large transfers but synology support is much better and longer. I'd guess the power supply is probably what went out but it would be a bummer to buy one and have the main unit as the culprit. Any used power supplies on ebay? lopaka On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 4:10 PM Bino Gopal wrote: > Well so since it seems the list isn't dead, figured I could ask here... > > I have an older Drobo FS that I got from a friend (old network attached > storage model). I had it off for a while while I was redoing my cabinet > and went to power it on and nothing. Zero, zip, zilch no matter what > outlet I try to use. > > So I'm wondering if it's the enclosure or the power supply and replacement > PS are $50-70 online and that seems a waste if it's the enclosure, so any > thoughts? Anyone have a spare Drobo PS lying around they wouldn't mind > sending me? > > And if I was to replace it, what would be the best recommended > replacement? I assume since it's a Drobo proprietary FS I wouldn't be able > to transfer the drives to a regular RAID backup so I'd lose whatever was on > them huh? H, that's not so good... > > Thoughts? > > > BINO > >
[H] Dead Drobo FS?
Well so since it seems the list isn't dead, figured I could ask here... I have an older Drobo FS that I got from a friend (old network attached storage model). I had it off for a while while I was redoing my cabinet and went to power it on and nothing. Zero, zip, zilch no matter what outlet I try to use. So I'm wondering if it's the enclosure or the power supply and replacement PS are $50-70 online and that seems a waste if it's the enclosure, so any thoughts? Anyone have a spare Drobo PS lying around they wouldn't mind sending me? And if I was to replace it, what would be the best recommended replacement? I assume since it's a Drobo proprietary FS I wouldn't be able to transfer the drives to a regular RAID backup so I'd lose whatever was on them huh? H, that's not so good... Thoughts? BINO
Re: [H] List seems dead these days?
The A QUANTIA A QTION 1-G PRO NI C On Aug 9, 2019, 1:19 PM -0400, Steve Tomporowski , wrote: > Hey Z, > > What are you using for a 10G network adapter in the Unraid server? I've > already have a cache drive in the Unraid server. > > Steve > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 8:19 AM Z Vaper wrote: > > > I have 3 wires devices at home. My VM server, unraid server and my desktop > > and all 3 are 10gbps. The difference is substantial and unraid handles it > > well provided you're using a caching drive. > > On Aug 9, 2019, 8:17 AM -0400, Steve Tomporowski , > > wrote: > > > Has anyone gotten into 10G ethernet? A little pricey but is it worth it? > > > Right now I don't know if Unraid can handle that. There is the thought > > > that Win10 will just goof it up and waste the bandwidth. > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 3:18 AM James Boswell > > wrote: > > > > > > > Userbenchmark isn't without utility, but it should be noted that > > they've > > > > just recently rebalanced their cpu performance reporting in a really > > silly > > > > way, basically massively understating the performance of >4 core cpus > > by > > > > making cores above the 4th 2% of the weight of the score, so by their > > > > current metrics an i3 can be preferable to a like, 28 core xeon... > > Which... > > > > Just no. > > > > > > > > On Fri, 9 Aug 2019, 08:09 Brian Weeden, > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > It's alive! > > > > > > > > > > I actually did a rebuild of my main machine at the end of last year > > > > > (i8700k, Asus Z370-Prime, GTX 1080 SC) and learned the hard way about > > > > DDR4 > > > > > incompatibilities when filling all four RAM slots. > > > > > > > > > > BTW, if you haven't seen it yet, this is a great site for comparing > > > > various > > > > > builds: > > > > > https://www.userbenchmark.com > > > > > > > > > > But when it came to my kids' gaming machines, I just bought a pair of > > > > Dell > > > > > Inspiron desktops because they were the same price as what I could > > have > > > > > built myself and just less hassle. > > > > > > > > > > I have found myself getting more into networking gear. I recently > > rebuild > > > > > my home network using Unifi gear from Ubiquity (including switches, > > APs, > > > > > and POE cameras) and that has proven to be very rewarding. The gear > > is > > > > much > > > > > more customization and powerful than most consumer networking gear. > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 3:12 AM Tim Lider <619be...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I've been a part of the list since 95 or 96. I remember when we > > have > > > > the > > > > > > get together in Vegas that year when ComDEX was happening. > > > > > > > > > > > > Those were the days, > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim Lider > > > > > > Red Belt Arnis de Mano > > > > > > https://www.facebook.com/CardenasArnis > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > > From: Hardware On > > Behalf Of > > > > > > didymus7 > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 3:46 PM > > > > > > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > > > > > > Subject: Re: [H] List seems dead these days? > > > > > > > > > > > > When did the list begin? I've only been here since '95. Not sure > > what > > > > > > month. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/8/2019 4:53 PM, Scott Sipe wrote: > > > > > > > I'm embarrassed to say my last serious build was an i7-4970 and a > > > > > > > Geforce970 (and also embarrassed I had to look up in my email to > > see > > > > > > > when that was -- 2014!). I do have an itch to try out AMD again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I put together a small AMD system a year or so ago with my > > son--who > > > > is > > > > > > > now 9. I think I first joined the HWG when I was around 13 or 14 > > > > (does > > > > > > > anybody remember when the list started?). Now THAT'S scary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Great to see so many people still around. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 9:01 PM Thane K. Sherrington < > > > > > > > th...@computerconnectionltd.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone else getting double posts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 07/08/2019 9:58 p.m., Thane K. Sherrington wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yeah, those were the days. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > T > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 07/08/2019 3:16 p.m., Christopher Fisk wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gone are the days of getting a 50% overclock out of a > > slocket'ed > > > > > > > > > > Celeron 300a malaysia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 1:37 PM Joshua MacCraw < > > maccr...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there an issue at my end or is the list faded? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [H] List seems dead these days?
Hey Z, What are you using for a 10G network adapter in the Unraid server? I've already have a cache drive in the Unraid server. Steve On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 8:19 AM Z Vaper wrote: > I have 3 wires devices at home. My VM server, unraid server and my desktop > and all 3 are 10gbps. The difference is substantial and unraid handles it > well provided you're using a caching drive. > On Aug 9, 2019, 8:17 AM -0400, Steve Tomporowski , > wrote: > > Has anyone gotten into 10G ethernet? A little pricey but is it worth it? > > Right now I don't know if Unraid can handle that. There is the thought > > that Win10 will just goof it up and waste the bandwidth. > > > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 3:18 AM James Boswell > wrote: > > > > > Userbenchmark isn't without utility, but it should be noted that > they've > > > just recently rebalanced their cpu performance reporting in a really > silly > > > way, basically massively understating the performance of >4 core cpus > by > > > making cores above the 4th 2% of the weight of the score, so by their > > > current metrics an i3 can be preferable to a like, 28 core xeon... > Which... > > > Just no. > > > > > > On Fri, 9 Aug 2019, 08:09 Brian Weeden, > wrote: > > > > > > > It's alive! > > > > > > > > I actually did a rebuild of my main machine at the end of last year > > > > (i8700k, Asus Z370-Prime, GTX 1080 SC) and learned the hard way about > > > DDR4 > > > > incompatibilities when filling all four RAM slots. > > > > > > > > BTW, if you haven't seen it yet, this is a great site for comparing > > > various > > > > builds: > > > > https://www.userbenchmark.com > > > > > > > > But when it came to my kids' gaming machines, I just bought a pair of > > > Dell > > > > Inspiron desktops because they were the same price as what I could > have > > > > built myself and just less hassle. > > > > > > > > I have found myself getting more into networking gear. I recently > rebuild > > > > my home network using Unifi gear from Ubiquity (including switches, > APs, > > > > and POE cameras) and that has proven to be very rewarding. The gear > is > > > much > > > > more customization and powerful than most consumer networking gear. > > > > > > > > - > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 3:12 AM Tim Lider <619be...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I've been a part of the list since 95 or 96. I remember when we > have > > > the > > > > > get together in Vegas that year when ComDEX was happening. > > > > > > > > > > Those were the days, > > > > > > > > > > Tim Lider > > > > > Red Belt Arnis de Mano > > > > > https://www.facebook.com/CardenasArnis > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From: Hardware On > Behalf Of > > > > > didymus7 > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 3:46 PM > > > > > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > > > > > Subject: Re: [H] List seems dead these days? > > > > > > > > > > When did the list begin? I've only been here since '95. Not sure > what > > > > > month. > > > > > > > > > > On 8/8/2019 4:53 PM, Scott Sipe wrote: > > > > > > I'm embarrassed to say my last serious build was an i7-4970 and a > > > > > > Geforce970 (and also embarrassed I had to look up in my email to > see > > > > > > when that was -- 2014!). I do have an itch to try out AMD again. > > > > > > > > > > > > I put together a small AMD system a year or so ago with my > son--who > > > is > > > > > > now 9. I think I first joined the HWG when I was around 13 or 14 > > > (does > > > > > > anybody remember when the list started?). Now THAT'S scary. > > > > > > > > > > > > Great to see so many people still around. > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 9:01 PM Thane K. Sherrington < > > > > > > th...@computerconnectionltd.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone else getting double posts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 07/08/2019 9:58 p.m., Thane K. Sherrington wrote: > > > > > > > > Yeah, those were the days. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > T > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 07/08/2019 3:16 p.m., Christopher Fisk wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gone are the days of getting a 50% overclock out of a > slocket'ed > > > > > > > > > Celeron 300a malaysia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 1:37 PM Joshua MacCraw < > maccr...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there an issue at my end or is the list faded? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [H] List seems dead these days?
I’m still alive too. I’ve been around since it was Toms OC group :) My machine is seriously like 6-8 years old at this point, but I rarely use it. I’d LOVE to build a new one, but just no need yet. I’ll rebuild my home server farm first I’m out at Blackhat/DEFCON for the 12th year :) if you all are out here, send me a note :) Julian (Sabre) Sent from my iThingy, but not in that iShortBus kind of way. > On Aug 9, 2019, at 6:25 AM, Christopher Fisk > wrote: > > I went the opposite way a bit back. I had a motherboard with 8 SATA & 2 > NVMe, so I went ahead and threw together a storage spaces setup with 8 > Spinning drives to complement my NVMe boot drive. it's still pretty much > overkill for anything though. > >> On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 8:22 AM Brian Weeden wrote: >> >> I have a Synology server on my network as the main fileserver and have >> stuck with 1gbps (albeit two ports at once). I don't have any real use >> cases for faster, at least not yet. >> >> >> - >> Brian >> >> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 2:19 PM Z Vaper wrote: >>> >>> I have 3 wires devices at home. My VM server, unraid server and my >> desktop >>> and all 3 are 10gbps. The difference is substantial and unraid handles it >>> well provided you're using a caching drive. >>> On Aug 9, 2019, 8:17 AM -0400, Steve Tomporowski , >>> wrote: Has anyone gotten into 10G ethernet? A little pricey but is it worth >> it? Right now I don't know if Unraid can handle that. There is the thought that Win10 will just goof it up and waste the bandwidth. On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 3:18 AM James Boswell >>> wrote: > Userbenchmark isn't without utility, but it should be noted that >>> they've > just recently rebalanced their cpu performance reporting in a really >>> silly > way, basically massively understating the performance of >4 core cpus >>> by > making cores above the 4th 2% of the weight of the score, so by their > current metrics an i3 can be preferable to a like, 28 core xeon... >>> Which... > Just no. > > On Fri, 9 Aug 2019, 08:09 Brian Weeden, >>> wrote: > >> It's alive! >> >> I actually did a rebuild of my main machine at the end of last year >> (i8700k, Asus Z370-Prime, GTX 1080 SC) and learned the hard way >> about > DDR4 >> incompatibilities when filling all four RAM slots. >> >> BTW, if you haven't seen it yet, this is a great site for comparing > various >> builds: >> https://www.userbenchmark.com >> >> But when it came to my kids' gaming machines, I just bought a pair >> of > Dell >> Inspiron desktops because they were the same price as what I could >>> have >> built myself and just less hassle. >> >> I have found myself getting more into networking gear. I recently >>> rebuild >> my home network using Unifi gear from Ubiquity (including switches, >>> APs, >> and POE cameras) and that has proven to be very rewarding. The gear >>> is > much >> more customization and powerful than most consumer networking gear. >> >> - >> Brian >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 3:12 AM Tim Lider <619be...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I've been a part of the list since 95 or 96. I remember when we >>> have > the >>> get together in Vegas that year when ComDEX was happening. >>> >>> Those were the days, >>> >>> Tim Lider >>> Red Belt Arnis de Mano >>> https://www.facebook.com/CardenasArnis >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Hardware On >>> Behalf Of >>> didymus7 >>> Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 3:46 PM >>> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com >>> Subject: Re: [H] List seems dead these days? >>> >>> When did the list begin? I've only been here since '95. Not sure >>> what >>> month. >>> On 8/8/2019 4:53 PM, Scott Sipe wrote: I'm embarrassed to say my last serious build was an i7-4970 >> and a Geforce970 (and also embarrassed I had to look up in my email >> to >>> see when that was -- 2014!). I do have an itch to try out AMD >> again. I put together a small AMD system a year or so ago with my >>> son--who > is now 9. I think I first joined the HWG when I was around 13 or >> 14 > (does anybody remember when the list started?). Now THAT'S scary. Great to see so many people still around. Scott On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 9:01 PM Thane K. Sherrington < th...@computerconnectionltd.com> wrote: > Anyone else getting double posts? > >> On 07/08/2019 9:58 p.m., Thane K. Sherrington wrote: >> Yeah, those were the days. :) >> >> T >> >>> On 07/08/2019 3:16 p.m., Christopher Fisk wrote: >>> >>> Gone are the days of
Re: [H] List seems dead these days?
I went the opposite way a bit back. I had a motherboard with 8 SATA & 2 NVMe, so I went ahead and threw together a storage spaces setup with 8 Spinning drives to complement my NVMe boot drive. it's still pretty much overkill for anything though. On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 8:22 AM Brian Weeden wrote: > I have a Synology server on my network as the main fileserver and have > stuck with 1gbps (albeit two ports at once). I don't have any real use > cases for faster, at least not yet. > > > - > Brian > > > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 2:19 PM Z Vaper wrote: > > > I have 3 wires devices at home. My VM server, unraid server and my > desktop > > and all 3 are 10gbps. The difference is substantial and unraid handles it > > well provided you're using a caching drive. > > On Aug 9, 2019, 8:17 AM -0400, Steve Tomporowski , > > wrote: > > > Has anyone gotten into 10G ethernet? A little pricey but is it worth > it? > > > Right now I don't know if Unraid can handle that. There is the thought > > > that Win10 will just goof it up and waste the bandwidth. > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 3:18 AM James Boswell > > wrote: > > > > > > > Userbenchmark isn't without utility, but it should be noted that > > they've > > > > just recently rebalanced their cpu performance reporting in a really > > silly > > > > way, basically massively understating the performance of >4 core cpus > > by > > > > making cores above the 4th 2% of the weight of the score, so by their > > > > current metrics an i3 can be preferable to a like, 28 core xeon... > > Which... > > > > Just no. > > > > > > > > On Fri, 9 Aug 2019, 08:09 Brian Weeden, > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > It's alive! > > > > > > > > > > I actually did a rebuild of my main machine at the end of last year > > > > > (i8700k, Asus Z370-Prime, GTX 1080 SC) and learned the hard way > about > > > > DDR4 > > > > > incompatibilities when filling all four RAM slots. > > > > > > > > > > BTW, if you haven't seen it yet, this is a great site for comparing > > > > various > > > > > builds: > > > > > https://www.userbenchmark.com > > > > > > > > > > But when it came to my kids' gaming machines, I just bought a pair > of > > > > Dell > > > > > Inspiron desktops because they were the same price as what I could > > have > > > > > built myself and just less hassle. > > > > > > > > > > I have found myself getting more into networking gear. I recently > > rebuild > > > > > my home network using Unifi gear from Ubiquity (including switches, > > APs, > > > > > and POE cameras) and that has proven to be very rewarding. The gear > > is > > > > much > > > > > more customization and powerful than most consumer networking gear. > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 3:12 AM Tim Lider <619be...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I've been a part of the list since 95 or 96. I remember when we > > have > > > > the > > > > > > get together in Vegas that year when ComDEX was happening. > > > > > > > > > > > > Those were the days, > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim Lider > > > > > > Red Belt Arnis de Mano > > > > > > https://www.facebook.com/CardenasArnis > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > > From: Hardware On > > Behalf Of > > > > > > didymus7 > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 3:46 PM > > > > > > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > > > > > > Subject: Re: [H] List seems dead these days? > > > > > > > > > > > > When did the list begin? I've only been here since '95. Not sure > > what > > > > > > month. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/8/2019 4:53 PM, Scott Sipe wrote: > > > > > > > I'm embarrassed to say my last serious build was an i7-4970 > and a > > > > > > > Geforce970 (and also embarrassed I had to look up in my email > to > > see > > > > > > > when that was -- 2014!). I do have an itch to try out AMD > again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I put together a small AMD system a year or so ago with my > > son--who > > > > is > > > > > > > now 9. I think I first joined the HWG when I was around 13 or > 14 > > > > (does > > > > > > > anybody remember when the list started?). Now THAT'S scary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Great to see so many people still around. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 9:01 PM Thane K. Sherrington < > > > > > > > th...@computerconnectionltd.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone else getting double posts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 07/08/2019 9:58 p.m., Thane K. Sherrington wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yeah, those were the days. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > T > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 07/08/2019 3:16 p.m., Christopher Fisk wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gone are the days of getting a 50% overclock out of a > > slocket'ed > > > > > > > > > > Celeron 300a malaysia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 1:37 PM Joshua MacCraw < > > maccr...@gmail.com > > > > > > >
Re: [H] List seems dead these days?
Yes, though I mostly went older enterprise gear. My core is a Juniper EX4200 stack, which gives me 6 SFP+ slots, but I have a 48-port SFP+ Cisco Nexus switch for 10gb fiber and a more prosumer-level Netgear for 10GbaseT--though I use fiber for most connections. I'm even putting my VM hosts on 40gbps as the Nexus has 4 40gbps QSFP+ ports too. -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tomporowski Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 7:14 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] List seems dead these days? Has anyone gotten into 10G ethernet? A little pricey but is it worth it? Right now I don't know if Unraid can handle that. There is the thought that Win10 will just goof it up and waste the bandwidth. On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 3:18 AM James Boswell wrote: > Userbenchmark isn't without utility, but it should be noted that > they've just recently rebalanced their cpu performance reporting in a > really silly way, basically massively understating the performance of > >4 core cpus by making cores above the 4th 2% of the weight of the > score, so by their current metrics an i3 can be preferable to a like, 28 core > xeon... Which... > Just no. > > On Fri, 9 Aug 2019, 08:09 Brian Weeden, wrote: > > > It's alive! > > > > I actually did a rebuild of my main machine at the end of last year > > (i8700k, Asus Z370-Prime, GTX 1080 SC) and learned the hard way > > about > DDR4 > > incompatibilities when filling all four RAM slots. > > > > BTW, if you haven't seen it yet, this is a great site for comparing > various > > builds: > > https://www.userbenchmark.com > > > > But when it came to my kids' gaming machines, I just bought a pair > > of > Dell > > Inspiron desktops because they were the same price as what I could > > have built myself and just less hassle. > > > > I have found myself getting more into networking gear. I recently > > rebuild my home network using Unifi gear from Ubiquity (including > > switches, APs, and POE cameras) and that has proven to be very > > rewarding. The gear is > much > > more customization and powerful than most consumer networking gear. > > > > - > > Brian > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 3:12 AM Tim Lider <619be...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I've been a part of the list since 95 or 96. I remember when we > > > have > the > > > get together in Vegas that year when ComDEX was happening. > > > > > > Those were the days, > > > > > > Tim Lider > > > Red Belt Arnis de Mano > > > https://www.facebook.com/CardenasArnis > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Hardware On > > > Behalf Of > > > didymus7 > > > Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 3:46 PM > > > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > > > Subject: Re: [H] List seems dead these days? > > > > > > When did the list begin? I've only been here since '95. Not sure > > > what month. > > > > > > On 8/8/2019 4:53 PM, Scott Sipe wrote: > > > > I'm embarrassed to say my last serious build was an i7-4970 and > > > > a > > > > Geforce970 (and also embarrassed I had to look up in my email to > > > > see when that was -- 2014!). I do have an itch to try out AMD again. > > > > > > > > I put together a small AMD system a year or so ago with my > > > > son--who > is > > > > now 9. I think I first joined the HWG when I was around 13 or 14 > (does > > > > anybody remember when the list started?). Now THAT'S scary. > > > > > > > > Great to see so many people still around. > > > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 9:01 PM Thane K. Sherrington < > > > > th...@computerconnectionltd.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Anyone else getting double posts? > > > >> > > > >> On 07/08/2019 9:58 p.m., Thane K. Sherrington wrote: > > > >>> Yeah, those were the days. :) > > > >>> > > > >>> T > > > >>> > > > >>> On 07/08/2019 3:16 p.m., Christopher Fisk wrote: > > > >>> > > > Gone are the days of getting a 50% overclock out of a > > > slocket'ed Celeron 300a malaysia. > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 1:37 PM Joshua MacCraw > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Is there an issue at my end or is the list faded? > > > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
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I have a Synology server on my network as the main fileserver and have stuck with 1gbps (albeit two ports at once). I don't have any real use cases for faster, at least not yet. - Brian On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 2:19 PM Z Vaper wrote: > I have 3 wires devices at home. My VM server, unraid server and my desktop > and all 3 are 10gbps. The difference is substantial and unraid handles it > well provided you're using a caching drive. > On Aug 9, 2019, 8:17 AM -0400, Steve Tomporowski , > wrote: > > Has anyone gotten into 10G ethernet? A little pricey but is it worth it? > > Right now I don't know if Unraid can handle that. There is the thought > > that Win10 will just goof it up and waste the bandwidth. > > > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 3:18 AM James Boswell > wrote: > > > > > Userbenchmark isn't without utility, but it should be noted that > they've > > > just recently rebalanced their cpu performance reporting in a really > silly > > > way, basically massively understating the performance of >4 core cpus > by > > > making cores above the 4th 2% of the weight of the score, so by their > > > current metrics an i3 can be preferable to a like, 28 core xeon... > Which... > > > Just no. > > > > > > On Fri, 9 Aug 2019, 08:09 Brian Weeden, > wrote: > > > > > > > It's alive! > > > > > > > > I actually did a rebuild of my main machine at the end of last year > > > > (i8700k, Asus Z370-Prime, GTX 1080 SC) and learned the hard way about > > > DDR4 > > > > incompatibilities when filling all four RAM slots. > > > > > > > > BTW, if you haven't seen it yet, this is a great site for comparing > > > various > > > > builds: > > > > https://www.userbenchmark.com > > > > > > > > But when it came to my kids' gaming machines, I just bought a pair of > > > Dell > > > > Inspiron desktops because they were the same price as what I could > have > > > > built myself and just less hassle. > > > > > > > > I have found myself getting more into networking gear. I recently > rebuild > > > > my home network using Unifi gear from Ubiquity (including switches, > APs, > > > > and POE cameras) and that has proven to be very rewarding. The gear > is > > > much > > > > more customization and powerful than most consumer networking gear. > > > > > > > > - > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 3:12 AM Tim Lider <619be...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I've been a part of the list since 95 or 96. I remember when we > have > > > the > > > > > get together in Vegas that year when ComDEX was happening. > > > > > > > > > > Those were the days, > > > > > > > > > > Tim Lider > > > > > Red Belt Arnis de Mano > > > > > https://www.facebook.com/CardenasArnis > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From: Hardware On > Behalf Of > > > > > didymus7 > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 3:46 PM > > > > > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > > > > > Subject: Re: [H] List seems dead these days? > > > > > > > > > > When did the list begin? I've only been here since '95. Not sure > what > > > > > month. > > > > > > > > > > On 8/8/2019 4:53 PM, Scott Sipe wrote: > > > > > > I'm embarrassed to say my last serious build was an i7-4970 and a > > > > > > Geforce970 (and also embarrassed I had to look up in my email to > see > > > > > > when that was -- 2014!). I do have an itch to try out AMD again. > > > > > > > > > > > > I put together a small AMD system a year or so ago with my > son--who > > > is > > > > > > now 9. I think I first joined the HWG when I was around 13 or 14 > > > (does > > > > > > anybody remember when the list started?). Now THAT'S scary. > > > > > > > > > > > > Great to see so many people still around. > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 9:01 PM Thane K. Sherrington < > > > > > > th...@computerconnectionltd.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone else getting double posts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 07/08/2019 9:58 p.m., Thane K. Sherrington wrote: > > > > > > > > Yeah, those were the days. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > T > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 07/08/2019 3:16 p.m., Christopher Fisk wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gone are the days of getting a 50% overclock out of a > slocket'ed > > > > > > > > > Celeron 300a malaysia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 1:37 PM Joshua MacCraw < > maccr...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there an issue at my end or is the list faded? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [H] List seems dead these days?
I have 3 wires devices at home. My VM server, unraid server and my desktop and all 3 are 10gbps. The difference is substantial and unraid handles it well provided you're using a caching drive. On Aug 9, 2019, 8:17 AM -0400, Steve Tomporowski , wrote: > Has anyone gotten into 10G ethernet? A little pricey but is it worth it? > Right now I don't know if Unraid can handle that. There is the thought > that Win10 will just goof it up and waste the bandwidth. > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 3:18 AM James Boswell wrote: > > > Userbenchmark isn't without utility, but it should be noted that they've > > just recently rebalanced their cpu performance reporting in a really silly > > way, basically massively understating the performance of >4 core cpus by > > making cores above the 4th 2% of the weight of the score, so by their > > current metrics an i3 can be preferable to a like, 28 core xeon... Which... > > Just no. > > > > On Fri, 9 Aug 2019, 08:09 Brian Weeden, wrote: > > > > > It's alive! > > > > > > I actually did a rebuild of my main machine at the end of last year > > > (i8700k, Asus Z370-Prime, GTX 1080 SC) and learned the hard way about > > DDR4 > > > incompatibilities when filling all four RAM slots. > > > > > > BTW, if you haven't seen it yet, this is a great site for comparing > > various > > > builds: > > > https://www.userbenchmark.com > > > > > > But when it came to my kids' gaming machines, I just bought a pair of > > Dell > > > Inspiron desktops because they were the same price as what I could have > > > built myself and just less hassle. > > > > > > I have found myself getting more into networking gear. I recently rebuild > > > my home network using Unifi gear from Ubiquity (including switches, APs, > > > and POE cameras) and that has proven to be very rewarding. The gear is > > much > > > more customization and powerful than most consumer networking gear. > > > > > > - > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 3:12 AM Tim Lider <619be...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I've been a part of the list since 95 or 96. I remember when we have > > the > > > > get together in Vegas that year when ComDEX was happening. > > > > > > > > Those were the days, > > > > > > > > Tim Lider > > > > Red Belt Arnis de Mano > > > > https://www.facebook.com/CardenasArnis > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Hardware On Behalf Of > > > > didymus7 > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 3:46 PM > > > > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > > > > Subject: Re: [H] List seems dead these days? > > > > > > > > When did the list begin? I've only been here since '95. Not sure what > > > > month. > > > > > > > > On 8/8/2019 4:53 PM, Scott Sipe wrote: > > > > > I'm embarrassed to say my last serious build was an i7-4970 and a > > > > > Geforce970 (and also embarrassed I had to look up in my email to see > > > > > when that was -- 2014!). I do have an itch to try out AMD again. > > > > > > > > > > I put together a small AMD system a year or so ago with my son--who > > is > > > > > now 9. I think I first joined the HWG when I was around 13 or 14 > > (does > > > > > anybody remember when the list started?). Now THAT'S scary. > > > > > > > > > > Great to see so many people still around. > > > > > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 9:01 PM Thane K. Sherrington < > > > > > th...@computerconnectionltd.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone else getting double posts? > > > > > > > > > > > > On 07/08/2019 9:58 p.m., Thane K. Sherrington wrote: > > > > > > > Yeah, those were the days. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > T > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 07/08/2019 3:16 p.m., Christopher Fisk wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gone are the days of getting a 50% overclock out of a slocket'ed > > > > > > > > Celeron 300a malaysia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 1:37 PM Joshua MacCraw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there an issue at my end or is the list faded? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [H] List seems dead these days?
Has anyone gotten into 10G ethernet? A little pricey but is it worth it? Right now I don't know if Unraid can handle that. There is the thought that Win10 will just goof it up and waste the bandwidth. On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 3:18 AM James Boswell wrote: > Userbenchmark isn't without utility, but it should be noted that they've > just recently rebalanced their cpu performance reporting in a really silly > way, basically massively understating the performance of >4 core cpus by > making cores above the 4th 2% of the weight of the score, so by their > current metrics an i3 can be preferable to a like, 28 core xeon... Which... > Just no. > > On Fri, 9 Aug 2019, 08:09 Brian Weeden, wrote: > > > It's alive! > > > > I actually did a rebuild of my main machine at the end of last year > > (i8700k, Asus Z370-Prime, GTX 1080 SC) and learned the hard way about > DDR4 > > incompatibilities when filling all four RAM slots. > > > > BTW, if you haven't seen it yet, this is a great site for comparing > various > > builds: > > https://www.userbenchmark.com > > > > But when it came to my kids' gaming machines, I just bought a pair of > Dell > > Inspiron desktops because they were the same price as what I could have > > built myself and just less hassle. > > > > I have found myself getting more into networking gear. I recently rebuild > > my home network using Unifi gear from Ubiquity (including switches, APs, > > and POE cameras) and that has proven to be very rewarding. The gear is > much > > more customization and powerful than most consumer networking gear. > > > > - > > Brian > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 3:12 AM Tim Lider <619be...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I've been a part of the list since 95 or 96. I remember when we have > the > > > get together in Vegas that year when ComDEX was happening. > > > > > > Those were the days, > > > > > > Tim Lider > > > Red Belt Arnis de Mano > > > https://www.facebook.com/CardenasArnis > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Hardware On Behalf Of > > > didymus7 > > > Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 3:46 PM > > > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > > > Subject: Re: [H] List seems dead these days? > > > > > > When did the list begin? I've only been here since '95. Not sure what > > > month. > > > > > > On 8/8/2019 4:53 PM, Scott Sipe wrote: > > > > I'm embarrassed to say my last serious build was an i7-4970 and a > > > > Geforce970 (and also embarrassed I had to look up in my email to see > > > > when that was -- 2014!). I do have an itch to try out AMD again. > > > > > > > > I put together a small AMD system a year or so ago with my son--who > is > > > > now 9. I think I first joined the HWG when I was around 13 or 14 > (does > > > > anybody remember when the list started?). Now THAT'S scary. > > > > > > > > Great to see so many people still around. > > > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 9:01 PM Thane K. Sherrington < > > > > th...@computerconnectionltd.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Anyone else getting double posts? > > > >> > > > >> On 07/08/2019 9:58 p.m., Thane K. Sherrington wrote: > > > >>> Yeah, those were the days. :) > > > >>> > > > >>> T > > > >>> > > > >>> On 07/08/2019 3:16 p.m., Christopher Fisk wrote: > > > >>> > > > Gone are the days of getting a 50% overclock out of a slocket'ed > > > Celeron 300a malaysia. > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 1:37 PM Joshua MacCraw > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Is there an issue at my end or is the list faded? > > > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
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Userbenchmark isn't without utility, but it should be noted that they've just recently rebalanced their cpu performance reporting in a really silly way, basically massively understating the performance of >4 core cpus by making cores above the 4th 2% of the weight of the score, so by their current metrics an i3 can be preferable to a like, 28 core xeon... Which... Just no. On Fri, 9 Aug 2019, 08:09 Brian Weeden, wrote: > It's alive! > > I actually did a rebuild of my main machine at the end of last year > (i8700k, Asus Z370-Prime, GTX 1080 SC) and learned the hard way about DDR4 > incompatibilities when filling all four RAM slots. > > BTW, if you haven't seen it yet, this is a great site for comparing various > builds: > https://www.userbenchmark.com > > But when it came to my kids' gaming machines, I just bought a pair of Dell > Inspiron desktops because they were the same price as what I could have > built myself and just less hassle. > > I have found myself getting more into networking gear. I recently rebuild > my home network using Unifi gear from Ubiquity (including switches, APs, > and POE cameras) and that has proven to be very rewarding. The gear is much > more customization and powerful than most consumer networking gear. > > - > Brian > > > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 3:12 AM Tim Lider <619be...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I've been a part of the list since 95 or 96. I remember when we have the > > get together in Vegas that year when ComDEX was happening. > > > > Those were the days, > > > > Tim Lider > > Red Belt Arnis de Mano > > https://www.facebook.com/CardenasArnis > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Hardware On Behalf Of > > didymus7 > > Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 3:46 PM > > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > > Subject: Re: [H] List seems dead these days? > > > > When did the list begin? I've only been here since '95. Not sure what > > month. > > > > On 8/8/2019 4:53 PM, Scott Sipe wrote: > > > I'm embarrassed to say my last serious build was an i7-4970 and a > > > Geforce970 (and also embarrassed I had to look up in my email to see > > > when that was -- 2014!). I do have an itch to try out AMD again. > > > > > > I put together a small AMD system a year or so ago with my son--who is > > > now 9. I think I first joined the HWG when I was around 13 or 14 (does > > > anybody remember when the list started?). Now THAT'S scary. > > > > > > Great to see so many people still around. > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 9:01 PM Thane K. Sherrington < > > > th...@computerconnectionltd.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Anyone else getting double posts? > > >> > > >> On 07/08/2019 9:58 p.m., Thane K. Sherrington wrote: > > >>> Yeah, those were the days. :) > > >>> > > >>> T > > >>> > > >>> On 07/08/2019 3:16 p.m., Christopher Fisk wrote: > > >>> > > Gone are the days of getting a 50% overclock out of a slocket'ed > > Celeron 300a malaysia. > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 1:37 PM Joshua MacCraw > > wrote: > > > > > Is there an issue at my end or is the list faded? > > > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > > > >
Re: [H] List seems dead these days?
It's alive! I actually did a rebuild of my main machine at the end of last year (i8700k, Asus Z370-Prime, GTX 1080 SC) and learned the hard way about DDR4 incompatibilities when filling all four RAM slots. BTW, if you haven't seen it yet, this is a great site for comparing various builds: https://www.userbenchmark.com But when it came to my kids' gaming machines, I just bought a pair of Dell Inspiron desktops because they were the same price as what I could have built myself and just less hassle. I have found myself getting more into networking gear. I recently rebuild my home network using Unifi gear from Ubiquity (including switches, APs, and POE cameras) and that has proven to be very rewarding. The gear is much more customization and powerful than most consumer networking gear. - Brian On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 3:12 AM Tim Lider <619be...@gmail.com> wrote: > I've been a part of the list since 95 or 96. I remember when we have the > get together in Vegas that year when ComDEX was happening. > > Those were the days, > > Tim Lider > Red Belt Arnis de Mano > https://www.facebook.com/CardenasArnis > > -Original Message- > From: Hardware On Behalf Of > didymus7 > Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 3:46 PM > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] List seems dead these days? > > When did the list begin? I've only been here since '95. Not sure what > month. > > On 8/8/2019 4:53 PM, Scott Sipe wrote: > > I'm embarrassed to say my last serious build was an i7-4970 and a > > Geforce970 (and also embarrassed I had to look up in my email to see > > when that was -- 2014!). I do have an itch to try out AMD again. > > > > I put together a small AMD system a year or so ago with my son--who is > > now 9. I think I first joined the HWG when I was around 13 or 14 (does > > anybody remember when the list started?). Now THAT'S scary. > > > > Great to see so many people still around. > > > > Scott > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 9:01 PM Thane K. Sherrington < > > th...@computerconnectionltd.com> wrote: > > > >> Anyone else getting double posts? > >> > >> On 07/08/2019 9:58 p.m., Thane K. Sherrington wrote: > >>> Yeah, those were the days. :) > >>> > >>> T > >>> > >>> On 07/08/2019 3:16 p.m., Christopher Fisk wrote: > >>> > Gone are the days of getting a 50% overclock out of a slocket'ed > Celeron 300a malaysia. > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 1:37 PM Joshua MacCraw > wrote: > > > Is there an issue at my end or is the list faded? > > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >
